Fixing a Flawed Race Face Turbine Dropper.

I picked up a Race Face Turbine dropper post for $20 on eBay! The only problem is that it's listed as broken because of an air leak. There's no rebuild kits from Race Face!! So can I rebuild and convert this dropper using a kit from 9point8?
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[@chickensendies]

You have to appreciate the fact of how willing you are to buy broken items and put the time and effort into fixing and researching them. Very good stuff man!

[@WOLFTICKVIDEOS]

You are the man Evan!!! I kept waiting for the theme from Rocky when you were fighting with that thing😂. This video is going to be huge! You might actually hit your goal for the year.👍

[@iffy_too4289]

You gotta appreciate the simplicity of a Tranz X based dropper after seeing this rebuild. I rebuilt 2 yesterday and it was soo easy... no bullets or springs, just some brass keys and suspension lube. (although mine are quite a bit heavier at 600 grams)

[@mattwhittle2067]

Always love the videos! The algorithm will pick you up big time soon!

[@bencourter5333]

Love the video! You make such great content and you inspire me to work on my bike! The mythique is looking pretty good now!

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Awesome Ben! Working on bikes is a blast, glad I could give you some inspiration!

[@nx_rq]

Awesome video, enjoying all your content and keep up the good work! For the Nukeproof ARD inserts you can fix the rattling by doing the installation like the Vittoria tire inserts, this is because the tire insert stretched out by regular use. Basically cutting down the insert to size then zip tying them back together, look at any Vittoria tire insert install video and it will make a lot more sense than me explaining 😂

[@EvansMTBSaga]

I know exactly what you're talking about! Seen it done by Syd and Mackey a bunch. I have the spirit of a weight weenie now and want to get the bike under 30 lbs now 😂😭😊

[@huntstyle]

My bike came with the RF Turbine dropper, and I always had the same issues with leaking air. I replaced it with a PNW Ranier, which is actually much cheaper, but works SOOOO much better! It got a scratch on the stanchion, possibly from something failing internally, and they are replacing it for free under their lifetime warranty. Glad that I kept the old RF, though, as I installed it back on the bike so I can still ride while waiting for the new Ranier. Definitely not going through all this trouble to repair the RF (sometimes time is more valuable than saving a bit of money), but knowing it would only get me $20 on ebay makes it worthwhile to keep around for situations like this.

[@NeutralGenericUser]

I love how much research you put into this and getting that dropper to work. Well done. Good luck on your subscriber goal. Your content quality certainly justifies a large subscriber base. I always look forward to your videos, and they never disappoint. Thank you!

[@joshuajalog6008]

It feels so good when you accomplished something. Thanks for the tutorial dude!🥰

[@anthonycarroll4877]

I had this exact dropper on my last bike and had so many issues with it. When I first picked up the bike it didn't return all the way which was fixed by adding some air to it. But as the season went on and the weather got colder it seemed like the seal wouldn't hold and the dropper got to the point that it wasn't even usable any more. The post would just sink down when you sat on it. Hopefully this rebuild holds up for you, it was a really nice post when it worked right!

[@theshedMTB]

Another example of some serious mechanical ability!

[@Giant_08]

Great video! Come over to the UK and let’s go for a ride!

[@darrenmanning9252]

You could have saved yourself the headache by using the included key install tool sitting on your workbench that was included in the rebuild kit. That’s what those black parts are. One has a single groove and the other has two grooves and they wrap around the keys making install a breeze! Next time you rebuild it make sure you use the key install tool and save yourself that hour!

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Haha that's true. I didn't realize it.

[@jamesrohner3792]

You said it lost little pressure from where started but in my experience on these small air springs just checking pressure can drop pressure. 😊

[@jofinin22]

Hi dude, loving the content recently! Keep it up 😊

[@GokkunGuru]

This video was very pleasing to watch. Thank you!

[@ryansoulier9772]

I have this post! Its so finicky. I think ill grab a rebuild kit like you did over buying a new one. Thanks!

[@EvansMTBSaga]

It can be pretty hard to get those little bullet key things in the right spot. But it was an overall fun experience!

[@lucasmiller5574]

Literally the Chris fix of bikes lol

[@aidanchapman1852]

fixing the world's most unreliable dropper post. mine broke in a year but raceface replaced it with a turbineR which is amazing

[@mtbboy1993]

Mine leaked in few days, weeks. 4 of them. So got refund instead.

[@aidanchapman1852]

@@mtbboy1993 damn that’s horrible luck

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Haha I'm glad that I mentioned it was notoriously flawed. I hope mine holds up, because it's so nice having an air sprung dropper!!

[@mtbboy1993]

@@aidanchapman1852 I am no stranger to bad luck, but it's bad quality or design flaws or too weak materials in most cases where bike parts fail. Including this post, defenitly flawed. But there is plenty of part sive had bad luck with.

[@mtbboy1993]

TurbineR is actually a rebranded Fox transfer. BTW Fox owns Raceface.

[@mtbboy1993]

I had this dropper post, I returned 4. After only little time on it. And got refund. But great video. But nice you managed to salvage a dropper post.

[@marwinhalg3413]

Hey Evan. I really like your vids and I think you chanel will grow up soon. A thing I would recommend you is to install your vise on your desk that it don't moves around like in the shock rebuild video.

[@luisr.blanco8098]

Love your videos man ! Just a normal guy trying to make things on his own! keep this videos coming and awesome rebuilt ! :)

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Heck yeah. Trying to show people bike repairs and upgrades are simple and anyone can do it

[@davomoto42]

Great info and I like the detail in the teardown, but your editing could use some polishing. When you're on camera and there's a cut every 3 seconds it's visually jarring. Just a thought. Keep up the good work!

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Thanks I will work on that. It's hard to talk on camera, so I cut out the silent parts. I'll polish it up a bit for sure.

[@dylan-5287]

Haha damn that dropper is constructed like a BMW. My buddy has the same one and it needs air every so often. Most are easily worked on, that looked pretty difficult at least in comparison.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Haha yeah it was gnarly. My first time so I don't have a comparison. The pnw dropper needs a service badly though!

[@hansonwang2121]

Damn the teardown of that dropper is so much more complicated compared to my OneUp post.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Haha really! I've never messed with a OneUp. That's cool to hear you do your own servicing.

[@MrSupermugen]

i honestly dont know why oneup isnt the forefront and isnt "out of stock ". The dropper, lever and bars are industry leading. The pedals are bloody good too, both alloy and plastic. Im not sure why droppers are made so complicated

[@dylan-5287]

That's far more difficult than ks or brand x as well, probably pnw too. Never seen that spring between the needle bearings, that looked like hell to fit back together. Normally it's super easy and if the cartridge is gone it's $60. Nice and simple.

[@darrenmanning9252]

@@dylan-5287 that spring is to make the keys constantly expand and take up the slop so you don’t get that excessive side to side rotational play in the saddle like on all other droppers

[@dylan-5287]

@@darrenmanning9252 do reverbs not have any side to side play? Every dropper I've seen has an incredibly tiny amount. I don't see how the spring would help that though. The bars themselves are what stop lateral play, I can't see how having the spring keep the bar higher would change that. From the amount of frustration showed in the video, I don't see that as worth it. I've never noticed the lateral play in a dropper unless I'm off the bike examining it. Reverb is overly complicated imo. I've never had one but I've almost universally seen people say they're a headache and constantly need servicing. Stick to mechanical operation for droppers. Hydraulic is great for brakes but there's a reason you don't see hydraulic drive trains or droppers in general.

[@justsomeone9876]

Yess been for a video i was gunna join a race but it got canceled cause of guidlines in my country but i bought more parts for my bike wish i had tools but love the videos pls keep pumping out more video's

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Aww man that sucks about the canceled race. Luckily there is races going on here. Keep training so you will be really fast when you get to race!

[@justsomeone9876]

@@EvansMTBSaga ya i trained for a month but ill keep training non stop even if i canr go far

[@Digital_Gangster]

You're the RJ the Bike Guy of MTB! But way more entertaining!

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Oh I never heard of him before. Cool to see a guy with so many subs doing in depth bike repairs.

[@eugene44569]

You should try lt woo or microshift advent x if your ever going to want a budget friendly drivetrin

[@benjaminivancic3187]

Loving your content sooo much. Keep the great work. What do u think what buget hardtail should I buy

[@EvansMTBSaga]

I have my eye on an Octane One Prone. It's a little pricey at $1000, but the geometry and specs are amazing. Through axle frame, boost spacing front wheel, dropper post, 66.5 head angle

[@Iseekoutthetrails]

Good Job.

[@mattzuki]

I have a raceface dropper - tempted to sell it an get a trans x- hate having to take the seat off to air it up.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

What size seat post? I have a Trans X 30.9 170mm travel I'd sell you.

[@ivanmarreiros7275]

Keep going man! Geat content! Regards from portugal 🚲 💪

[@ForEverMTB]

Great stuff like always bro.

[@shaharshapira2209]

dam man nice vid and channel its sad you got only 4k and not 400k

[@diegocalderon6987]

Hi man nice video, Where can I buy the kit?

[@TheCaptainsCog]

I miss the lab coat when you perform part surgery. Hope I can get my hands on a sticker soon.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Haha the lab coat is fun to put on. I have a big video planned soon where I'll need beakers and shit.

[@TheCaptainsCog]

@@EvansMTBSaga makes sense cuz you got this down to a science!!!

[@Digital_Gangster]

You do a lot of hand motions..... Are you also a freestyle rapper? Haha jk I like that you have your own style.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Haha yup totally rapping!

[@mateiciobanu4670]

we got the same rims!

[@altasmontanas2678]

Do you know by chance the size of the retainers?

[@zionneidorf6740]

did you try replacin the valve core, my brothers fork leaked air and i just replaced the valve core and it worked fine

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Yup! I always do with every servicing

[@stevelapointe370]

I’m sorry but I can’t find the link about the 9.8 video you were talking about. Could you or someone send it to me please?

[@Daniel-gp4em]

Did I see that correct? Will the rubber band just live in the dropper post forever? Is that okay?

[@EvansMTBSaga]

I used two rubber bands, and they get removed after the fact, but for some reason I forgot to record that. Sorry about that!!

[@fishrideandski4910]

these vids are so sick

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Thank you!!!!

[@eugene44569]

How is the 100 degree heat in the Phoenix area

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Pretty brutal lol. You get used to it after a while

[@jpxc1329]

Cool video but one thing I notice y do u line ur tire logo with the s on maxxis why not put it in the middle like most do looks better tbh in the middle

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Nope Maxxis logo looks horrible and I made a Short removing it

[@jpxc1329]

@@EvansMTBSaga it’s better there lol

[@jpxc1329]

@@EvansMTBSaga makes it look like a off brand China tire

[@ridesouls2830]

I buy a lot of oldschool parts used online

[@user-ym6tg1ve7g]

20k end of the year i think thats impossible and possible at the same time

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Oh dang I just got visited by a cybernetic organism from the future. I'm doomed!

[@lebot3403]

Ohh wait,i catch a glimpse of the orange rear tire

[@nealzalomek1888]

What torque wrench do you have?

[@EvansMTBSaga]

I think it's Tekton or something. I have it linked in the description.

[@HENLEY86]

Do you have a link to the 9point8 rebuild kit and guide?

[@EvansMTBSaga]

www.9point8.ca/index.php?route=product/product&path=44&product_id=111

[@HENLEY86]

@@EvansMTBSaga thank you! 👍

[@nacho6197]

have you ever tried industry nine hubs?

[@EvansMTBSaga]

I have not

[@nacho6197]

I think you should because your videos are amazing and that you should review them

[@mintyaviation2376]

Hey Evan quick question are you still using the Vitus KT H5ER-SH hub that came with the bike? cheers

[@EvansMTBSaga]

I have the stock front hub on and I just recently stopped using the rear hub just because I wanted an upgrade.

[@mintyaviation2376]

@@EvansMTBSaga Ahh ok. By the way how would you rate the sound of the stock rear hub? Is it pretty nice?

[@EvansMTBSaga]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hKvUYpebhtpmrbc I believe I have a clip in this video with the hub sound. It sounds mean!!

[@huskerfan3352]

Nice for some reason the audio sounded better could just be me

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Glad you commented on that. I've been struggling with echo and just screwed a bunch of insulation to the ceiling, then laid down a bunch of moving blankets around the camera. Then ran the audio through multiple different filters. Appreciate it!!

[@joshgenuino]

hello, hoping for an update. how often do you have to put air in it?

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Zero times since the rebuild!

[@joshgenuino]

@@EvansMTBSaga that's awesome. Thank you!

[@chris_gamedev]

Do anyone have a link to the kit used?

[@lukecowley8343]

did the dropper end up holding air over the long term? or did you occasionally need to add air?

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Still working like a charm. Used it yesterday

[@gondigondi7547]

Is the rubber band still in there.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Nope I took it off because the bullet things slide into channels. Forgot to record it though

[@eugene44569]

take a look at the micro shift advent x and you should put it on the wife bike. also, the mongoose XR pro is in stock at Walmart

[@crazydriver2202]

the xr pro is not the best idea, it has like a 71 head tube angle

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Haha I was just going to comment about that. I appreciate the recommendation, I'd consider it if the bike got a revamp. Looks like it hasn't changed since 2014. I'm definitely on the lookout for another bike though.

[@crazydriver2202]

@@EvansMTBSaga if u are looking for another bike, you could get a fezzari wiki peak and put the pnw dropper and maybe the xfusion fork too. Or get the nicer version, the fezzari abajo peak and just put the dropper on it

[@jdbv23]

*Subscribed* 😁

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Heck yeah thanks! Cool bold text too.

[@braedenmurray3598]

What are rubber bands for internally?

[@EvansMTBSaga]

They were to hold in the spring bullet things. I removed them after the spring bullets got pushed into the track. (forgot to record the rubber band removal 😢)

[@RomansDowntime]

I don’t doubt your going to build a budget bike using nothing but your parts bin at this point.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

That's a pretty good idea, I wasn't sure if people would be interested. Do you have a budget bike that you could recommend? I've been struggling to find that next bike.

[@RomansDowntime]

@@EvansMTBSaga I was honestly thinking about building a Mongoose XR Pro, and building it with only $100 worth of new parts, and parts bin the rest. People seem to really love that bike for some reason Link cause i am helpful: www.walmart.com/ip/Mongoose-XR-PRO-Men-s-Mountain-Bike-29-inch-wheels-24-speeds-Black/16913467

[@EvansMTBSaga]

It's funny someone else recommended that bike today too. I think it'd be very very difficult to find a quality fork for that bike. I'm talking anything above the entry level air forks, all because of the straight steer tube. Plus it has a 71 degree head angle, so the geometry is very out of date. I wish they'd update that bike. The market is in need of a modern full suspension under $700

[@RomansDowntime]

All reasonable. I haven’t pulled the trigger cause I also don’t think thats my kinda bike. It looks like they used that model for the basis for their Mongoose Salvo I saw on Amazon, which does have a tapered headset and a 69 degree headtube angle.

[@christianbagley9462]

Will you please mount yer vice… come on now, commit.

[@Dopeassbikevids]

My bike cost less than that flawed seatpost,wah-hooooo

[@MazdaMiata-gt8kw]

Hey!

[@EvansMTBSaga]

You made it on time! Hahaha

[@EvansMTBSaga]

I switched up the times due to my analytics, I guess most of my viewers are watching KZbin at 10am rather than 4pm

[@crimescene25]

Even after it was repaired it should still be $21 cause the turbine is a fckin turd. Probly blew up again like three weeks later....

[@EvansMTBSaga]

It still works surprisingly!

[@crimescene25]

@@EvansMTBSaga Thats good to hear, I've rebuilt mine. It holds up for a week working flawlessly one day, then sticks the next. Hunted down everything i can think of even the possibility of seat post clamp too tight, and nothing. It's really inconsistent and has been since day 1. Even a shift in the weather 10 degrees south seems to make it run horribly.

[@crimescene25]

@@EvansMTBSaga nice thats good to hear wish i could say the same on the like 3rd repair of it.

[@Optichin]

Why is there a cut in every single sentence 😂

[@bustedpiggybank]

I don't understand all the edits to complete a sentence

[@Dopeassbikevids]

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[@derekblake9385]

Your waving arms around when talking put me off what was a great video. 😖

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Aww man. Bummer to hear that. Its difficult to project my voice with enthusiasm, I normally talk monotone. I'll work on it!!! (I'm a critic of myself as well)

[@user-jy8nt8fc6q]

mày nói ít thôi

[@ryansoulier9772]

I have this post! Its so finicky. I think ill grab a rebuild kit like you did over buying a new one. Thanks!