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[@Pensivescarab96]

Am I the only one that thought low was in the call💀

[@jalenperez2611]

Ong I was like what tf kinda connections LOW got now bruh🤣🤣

[@WavyCLB]

Nah same here 😂😂

[@K-Dot94]

I didn’t even notice that until I read the comment 😂

[@DesignzRUs]

He was on the show before

[@jbug1979]

he wasn't??

[@pattywitdacake]

"Now, STOP RIGHT THERE, STOP RIGHT THERE!!" Scared the shit out of me

[@pattywitdacake]

5:55 btw

[@Samuel_Gonzalez35]

Yeah me too that needed a headphone warning on that one lol

[@cashmoney6935]

Low reaction priceless 😂

[@ItzMalick]

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[@NateMcCoy1194]

He did that and I was like “bro it’s not that serious”

[@oaktownstunna]

Just imagine someone getting mad at you for leaving one job for a job that is willing to pay you more for Less hours and less work...

[@Christian_Armenian]

Imagine leaving your countrys military to join another countries military

[@user-ue2dv8om1f]

@@Christian_Armenian his analogy is more accurate, being in the nba is a job not a war 😭

[@user-ue2dv8om1f]

@@Christian_Armenian his analogy is more accurate, being in the nba is a job not a war 😭

[@kingad8869]

@@Christian_Armenian Imagine joining the military, period.

[@adrianthehomie5632]

@@kingad8869 bro what 💀

[@real_AW10]

OG wasn’t taking the nonsense 😭

[@ItzMalick]

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[@legendarywiimaster]

@@ItzMalick yo fam no one cares

[@toxicmelody6228]

Y'all say players are "taking the easy way up" but when bro doesn't have a ring y'all always say "he needs to leave"

[@Rieky22]

Exactly you can’t impress these ppl

[@glcsander]

Theres a big difference between Damian Lillard situation: - while he plays his ass off the team fails to put decent players around him year after year, most of the season it takes Lilard to go super sayan to even get to the playoffs and the rest of the roster doesnt show up. James Harden: - The Rockets gave this man everything he wanted, they dindt waste a single opportunity to improve the team and year after year this mans fails to get a title and imediatly went to strip clubs, Dwith Howard, Russel Westbrook, Chris Paul, 3 HOF and still in the end he walks out? If lebron had the same opportunitys some of this guy have he woudlnt leave Cleavelend.

[@daevonthesavage7483]

@@glcsander bruh nobody winning shit with Russell Westbrook. Don't include his name in that 🤣🤣🤣🤣☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

[@robbiedontmiss]

@@glcsander True. James Harden is the modern day Jerry West.

[@JoJoWoody]

@@daevonthesavage7483 nah let him keep Westbrook

[@extremeking425]

Nah, that's Skip Bayless, this man is already hating on Lebron's son and he's not even in the NBA yet.

[@rapgodreloaded9259]

Bryce is better than his older brother.

[@devinsaettel3725]

@@rapgodreloaded9259 let’s kids be kids…but oh yeah you prolly a 12 year old..and if you’re rebuttal is “oh I’m actually 27” or some shi..then act accordingly. Lil kid behavior.

[@Disxreet]

Yall kill me with using Skip as the example. Nigga has been TROLLING for years. Damn near a master of the media. And it's working because people like you believe that shit 💀💀

[@caution934]

@@devinsaettel3725 cooked him ngl

[@hectorthegawd6216]

@@devinsaettel3725 own that fraud

[@RelexShorts]

The LOW x OG collab is legendary🔥

[@ItzMalick]

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[@painter757]

The nerve of a dude in a Mia Heat hat talking crazy about Lebron leaving a team🤣

[@ItzMalick]

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[@theophilusjones6024]

😂😂

[@legendarywiimaster]

Fr

[@Pikkon-17]

It's called an outfit

[@joshuaware818]

That's irony to its finest

[@urbaindelva7869]

A few things: 1) LeBron did not "pick" his teammates when he played in the 2007 Finals. 2) OG was correct. Antawn Jamison, at 33 years old, was traded to the Cavs mid-season in 2009-10. He was an All-Star only twice throughout his career and those selections were 3 seasons apart. 3) Mo Williams averaged 17 ppg in back-to-back seasons on terrible Bucks teams. His one and only All-Star selection was in 2009 when he was LeBron's teammate, and he was only named an All-Star because Chris Bosh was unable to play in the ASG.

[@enohp660]

David Lee averaged 20 and 12 for a Knicks team that went 29-53. Obviously someone is gonna score points and get boards on a garbage team. David Lee was an ok player. That’s it.

[@4FatHoesInAHonda]

And also Cleveland simply wasn’t surrounding him with pieces like MJs manager jerry Krause

[@4FatHoesInAHonda]

Kobe was finna leave La when they didn’t

[@chrisrenshaw6291]

Mj 3 peated twice case closed

[@SICKOCL]

@@chrisrenshaw6291 What about bill russell 8 peat?

[@genghisdon5851]

Idk, I'm old enough to remember Chris Webber demanding getting moved from GS and they did it. Marbury forced his way out of Minnesota, TMac out of Orlando, Zo Mourning out of Charlotte, and I think Ray Allen forced his way out of Milwaukee then Seattle. As far as Kobe, I look at that like Durants situation now. LA just didn't want to do it so they stalled.

[@redpillproductions7187]

I notice how real nigga opinions like mine and yours don't get likes nor debated, so I salute this.

[@ItzMalick]

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[@legendarywiimaster]

Webber is a hypocrite, he gets mad at LeBron for leaving Cleveland yet LeBron ain’t demand a trade

[@Pikkon-17]

@@legendarywiimaster not a Lebron fan but he respects his comtract that males me respects him.

[@vicshephard9231]

How about Barkley trying to join Showtime after Kareem retired?

[@c-biscuit632]

Also……Legit almost every NBA championship, the team had at least 2 HOFs in the prime or close besides 2021 Bucks, 2011 Mavericks, 2004 Pistons, 1994 Rockets. Other than that, each team had at least two hall of famers on their team.

[@mariopb3101]

Bucks still too early to say, but who knows, maybe Jrue or Khris make it

[@zach1279]

*2004 Pistons

[@manuprasad5354]

@@mariopb3101 I doubt jrue will but MAYBE khris makes a few all NBA teams and sneaks in

[@sanjisay8232]

Kawhi's Raptors

[@Goatedjaden04]

@@sanjisay8232 Lowry is making it Marc making it

[@johnwatkins6321]

Bro the hate people have for lebron is crazy. I used to be one of them when i was younger then i got older and wiser and realized i was watching one of the greatest players of my lifetime. I normally don't do goat conversation but i had a friend who told lebron isn't top 2 all time which i was fine with but then he turned around and said lebron isn't even top 5 and i almost lost it lmaoo

[@legendarywiimaster]

You at LeBron hate videos and you’ll find comments saying LeBron isn’t top 100

[@johnwatkins6321]

@@legendarywiimaster which is beyond wild lol

[@lorddj9910]

I kinda had the same journey as you with Lebron..I was a Kobe fan so yknow how it goes lol

[@rayanr3857]

I didn’t give LeBron credit until I saw him destroy my raps. That was the first time in my life where I was like, damn this dude might just be up there with Jordan.

[@kiryukazuma8229]

Lebron is either the greatest, tied with MJ as the goat (atp this is the correct answer) or the second greatest. That’s it

[@dwadeisthegoat2020]

People who act like lebron was the first to do what he did are hypocrites

[@PraiseObito]

Exactly. Shaq said that if he was able to, he would’ve joined the bulls.

[@benjaminan1183]

Ignorant*

[@ACLA23]

Wilt was tech the first the do it. Hakeem did it later low key with Scottie and Barkley when they were old

[@aquartermil]

Yes he was the first to do it that way.. 3 guys who were literally and arguably top 10 in the game !!!! Nobody never seen that shit ! Y’all gotta know this bro Bron was bron literally fighting wit Kobe on who was the best in the world. D wade was a already champion finals mvp top 2 in his position behind kobe, Bosh top 3 in his position, all star was the man on his team and dominated. We ain’t seen 3 guys in they prime team up like that. Y’all might be to young to remember but when they did that shit they shut shìt down 😂Mfs was in disbelief !!!

[@lorddj9910]

@@aquartermil Chris Bosh was not top 10

[@KleinpeterHank]

3:33 Thank you Low. Kobe wanted to be traded 3 times. 2000, 2004, 2007.

[@ItzMalick]

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[@legendarywiimaster]

He drove Shaq out of LA by the way

[@izell9464]

@@legendarywiimaster no he didn’t stop lying Kobe was leaving dr buss traded shaq for his mouth n lack of training his body lying mf

[@legendarywiimaster]

@Chris King Shaq was still a great player and also players still demanded trades.

[@legendarywiimaster]

@Chris King and Kobe demanded a trade himself doesn’t change much that he didn’t get traded

[@dumb5461]

People getting this upset over this conversation is so pathetic. I got second hand embarrassment watching these fools scream at each other.

[@Iam2toneT]

You realize its more than just a game to then right? They are passionate about plus it’s kinda their jobs to debate

[@ronnypooky]

i don't blame OG for getting pissed, dude in the heat hat made the dumbest argument i've ever seen💀

[@ItzMalick]

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[@ttt23ddd77]

If nobody cared enough to scream about this stuff this wouldn't be a business

[@jamesking6405]

This dude LOW is the GOAT. I can respect your takes, you keep it fair all around the board. You don't speak with HATE you speak with FACTS. Well done definitely subscribing👍🏾

[@LiamHadley17]

facts theirs no biasness in what he is saying its just facts

[@Dahntayyyy]

I never seen OG get this mad before

[@Big_3000]

Dawg me neither, it’s almost scary

[@ItzMalick]

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[@kitchenconnection9838]

@@ItzMalick I’m follow

[@joiri9498]

talking to someone that dumb can really make anyone mad lol

[@veronicafoxx27]

This is why I love this channel. We may not always agree but you make me think.

[@ItzMalick]

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[@winnerwinnerchickendinner901]

Ticket doesn’t change and chop his takes but admits his faults (with facts not emotion) so I respect his opinion

[@JW-1089]

Ticket reacts/talks to other men like a typical ratchet baby momma & he's 40 yrs old.

[@showtimesportsmedia6906]

Bro the whole LDBC get on him sometimes about his hypocrisy. I’ve even had to roast him

[@jeffdredd1172]

@@showtimesportsmedia6906 LDBC? Like the boxing community?

[@ItzMalick]

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[@Blackmagic_874]

Idk who this Ticket guy is, but he's absolutely hilarious in the worst way possible.

[@Darknight1024]

He just hates on the new generation of players

[@angryasswrestlingfan2720]

He’s a old head who hates lebron with a passion.

[@spiraltriggerex]

He gets so easily triggered with the slightest disagreement. That whole podcast was basically him vs everyone else

[@alythegoat7109]

@@Darknight1024 cap he fw Giannis, Ja, Luka etc

[@ItzMalick]

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[@ericdupree8603]

I knew this was coming.. Ticket mad funny 😂

[@ItzMalick]

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[@ericdupree8603]

@@ItzMalick I’ll check out, just a few things. How do you edit your videos for content? I want to eventually start making my own./

[@FlackeauxFiasceaux]

Fun Fact: There has NEVER been a player in NBA history to win 3 or more chips with having a HOF/Top 75 player

[@depressedraiderfan5359]

Curry will be the only player either this year or next year because green or klay are not top 75 players. Curry will have 3 with them and 2 with KD

[@redpillproductions7187]

@@depressedraiderfan5359 which is a big reason why I personally feel like Curry is THEE Greatest. Especially the fact that he went through top tier talents/teams in the West. I can say a lot more to back up this argument too.

[@depressedraiderfan5359]

@@redpillproductions7187 lmaoo😂😂😂 this was funny

[@manz7860]

@@depressedraiderfan5359 curry has surpassed lebum 😂 u mad?

[@Goth-Season]

@@stratosphere2323 he hasn’t surpassed lebron but we not gonna act like 🤣he didn’t win without out kd he didn’t need kd

[@Spencey_V]

I've never seen OG yell like that, had me dying.

[@JacobSmith681]

Like ive seen him turn up but i never seen him cuss and start barking to ppl like that

[@TheSkyrimps3]

@@JacobSmith681 it’s cause ticket is disrespectful and has no etiquette.

[@ItzMalick]

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[@macaronitony2178]

This guy is so closed minded and simple. Yes people have their own preferences on what’s great but A LOT of players are so great in one aspect or another that they surpass whatever preference you have of a great player.

[@ItzMalick]

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[@legendarywiimaster]

Who the guy in the Heat hat?

[@JetEngine85]

They're both an all time great..both needed and got help through their careers.,both had a few losses in the playoffs too.. comparison should just stop..

[@onehand-yusuf7212]

Every all time great who won had all time help except for like Bill Walton but it was the 70s so take that as u will

[@JetEngine85]

@@onehand-yusuf7212 that's why I said they both had help throughout their respective careers.. Dirk and Hakeem I think won a championship without another all star playing with them and MJ too at 91..

[@legendarywiimaster]

@@JetEngine85 MJ had Pippen

[@JW-1089]

Interesting fact: Michael Jordan signed a 8-year 25M deal with the Bulls in 1988

[@ItzMalick]

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[@MyDixieNormis]

2:45 what did mj do? He waiting until the superteams retired then he started his reign over the nba. Lebron didn’t have that privilege because the Boston superteam formed in 2008 when Lebron was already there for 6 years and Lebron had no chance of beating that team all by himself. I hate it when people cherry pick details and leave out the most important ones

[@superseahawk4296]

bro I was here the whole time thinking low was in the call 💀

[@ItzMalick]

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[@jerememanzanares2858]

Lebron took the route he took and that makes his path to championships easier to that's just what it is. It's the times it's not his fault but it made what Jordan did more impressive more noteworthy

[@TsoDrag]

I can agree to it but i think brons decision was to raise the floor rather than to raise his championship ceiling since when he got handed the l by the mavs bro work on his game and never looked back .

[@dryames4319]

But he's still ass at freethrows😭

[@enohp660]

Lebron hate by black men is rooted in slave mentality. I say that jokingly but nobody ever questions Steph’s two rings that he won with KD because the player (Steph) didn’t make that decision to get KD, the OWNER did. So it’s not a problem if the owner “stacks the deck”, it’s only a problem when the players control their own destiny. You never hear that the owners are overpaid, just the players.

[@acedunlapify]

When you got low on Lebron side you know you talking crazy😯

[@ItzMalick]

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[@Anonymityfan]

Chill getting angry is something I have never seen before lol

[@ethanjones4143]

5:55 caught me off guard 😂

[@187btokes]

Some one said "the scoring record doesn't count because he didn't do it with one team" LMFAO

[@bondsgoat25]

By that persons logic, Karl Malone is the all time scoring leader because he has the most career points with a single franchise.

[@kingsamoungusgaming1687]

Jordan fans always think if they scream over you then their point is the only valid point.

[@benomerovic5515]

Old heads favorite move

[@imdbtruth]

The dude at the top left (old head and Jordan hater) was the one doing most of the yelling.

[@edgardoMurnia]

Are you mentally ill or something?@@imdbtruth

[@lorretscott7987]

I’m a woman and normally it’s hard to lesson to extreme fans talking about their favorite players but, you’re always logical and able to point out strengths and weaknesses fairly.

[@jmar5127]

Isiah Thomas and Mark Aguiire were the top 2 draft picks in 81. They traded Aguiire to the Pistons in 89 leading to back to back chips!! How Many people even know that. Moses and Dr J won 3 straight mvps in 81, 82, 83. Moses was traded to Philly pairing both of them forming arguably the greatest team EVER! If u know the history of the game guys like Ticket sound like absolute jokes.

[@y2shuproblem]

Mo Williams became an All-Star the year he joined the Cavs as an injury replacement.

[@SnowmanPPPlays]

“You need all time great talent” 2019 raptors might have something to say about that

[@alieucamara8525]

Bruh if you asking LeBron to turn Mo Williams into Scottie Pippen then you might as well ask LeBron to turn me into Dwayne Wade 😂😂😂😂🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️

[@Arturo_Kilgore_Morgan]

My thing about the Lebron/kd decision is that these guys are putting themselves in the best position to win. Is that really a bad thing? We complain about guys like dame rotting and losing in Portland, but then get mad when these players stack the deck in their favor.

[@Christian_Armenian]

Yes it is a bad thing because it’s selfish

[@tuneunleashed]

@@Christian_Armenian What? But Dame just signed an extension?

[@dragoneyee7874]

@@Christian_Armenian but nobody gets mad at organizations for the wasting their franchise player time, energy, and career but that same franchise player leaves that dumbass franchise then it’s an issue I hate fans that think this and on top that these are the same people that say the nba a business when franchise betray their player then fans get mad when those player leave for better situations then I’m like I’m sorry but isn’t the nba a business smh

[@lorddj9910]

Lebrons decision made sense…so did KDs too it’s just the team KD chose to go to

[@jacktheripper6747]

@@Christian_Armenian bing bong no shit

[@Realest1ne]

Dude at the top left got mad asf 😂😂😂

[@ItzMalick]

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[@takermajc5354]

Jeez, this is just... WOW

[@ItzMalick]

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[@jayo4282]

LeBron basically started picking his cast at a certain point. That's when the expectation got higher for them.

[@VictorFPoB]

LOL yeah, because when you get to pick and choose you'd choose Melo, JR Smith, Mosgov, Bazemore and the like.

[@jayo4282]

@@VictorFPoB the second stint with the Cavs started it, and the Lakers got rid of a lot of young pieces bring in AD and Russ. They gave up a nice future to go 1-3, 1-4. The ring is valuable, but what now? Warriors (for example) in the process of this title got young pieces that can ascend to lead a new core, while this current core may possibly gracefully decline and accept ancillary roles as the transition completes. LBJ is all on the big guns, who ain't really gunning anymore with nothing developing to invest in long term.

[@dmoney7784]

@@jayo4282okay but they won a ring out of it? all those nice young core pieces or whatever you're talking would never have done that at best they might have been s fringe playoff team like they are now, which is fine except you dont want to be stuck being one of those teams, its simple in this league you need a super-duper stat to win a ring kyrie is not that guy and him and young wiggins on the same team would have been catastrophic. I guarantee they would rather win a title and then rebuild later on, as opposed to consistently being a 8-10 seed

[@shasankamadduri1998]

@@jayo4282 AD was a good decision, Russ was a big mistake

[@jayo4282]

@@shasankamadduri1998 AD talent wise yes, but that man ain't played even a good half season worth of games outside the 1 title yr. LeBron doesn't have yrs left to have AD MIA so much... completely agree on Westbrook

[@leosardar7191]

MJ the goat BY FAR NOT EVEN CLOSE!!

[@andrewgonzalez293]

This guy really just compared Dennis Johnson to Kyrie Irving 💀💀💀

[@FamMoney510]

MJ had a real hand in developing Pip. You can’t zoom pass that. I understand everybody gets stuck in the ‘07-‘09 period of Bron’s career, we get it. He didn’t have a top 75 guy on his team. How many of those guys did Steph have this year? I believe the issue is that sometimes as the leader you have to find ways to maximize the talent around you. All those stories of MJ in practice were about finding out who belongs in the fox hole. As was mentioned earlier they didn’t have the luxury of saying ship out Andrew Wiggins (bc he’s not proven) & bring in K. Love (who was what…proven? Idk, I hear he wasn’t). I know to a lot of people MJ has been placed on a pedestal but as someone who grew up disliking that guy (Penny fan) I understand his acclaim. And in this particular leg of this debate it was about leadership. If you analyze things objectively you see who truly squeeze the most out of the “least”. This post is too long as is so I won’t go into each and every player but start comparing player to player (I.e. Craig Hodges, John Paxson, Steve Kerr to Boobie Gibson, Damon Jones, David Wesley, etc…) there’s more than just Pip & even if we stopped there MJ did more w/ him than Bron has with Wade/Kyrie. This argument is crazy

[@jeffquinn6573]

Pippen was a top 5 draft pick. You can’t give dudes hella credit for developing top 5 picks. The talent already there. They treat Pippen like he was drafted 25th. Besides if lebron plays with anyone drafted in top 5/10 is it not blasted as “too much help”?

[@FamMoney510]

@@jeffquinn6573 Draft position is only half the battle. My statement about Jordan having a hand in developing Pippen isn’t just about his ability to play the game of basketball. Andrew Wiggins was the number 1 overall pick in the draft; LeBron chose to ship him out before trying to get anything out of him…but maybe that’s the fault of the front office. Anyway, when Pippen arrived in CHI he wasn’t the Pippen that made the top 50. Much like Wiggins in GS all that “talent” was untapped. CHI opponents are on record talking about the lack of respect they had for Pip. Had it been today Mike would’ve requested he be shipped out. Instead he chose to take advantage of the areas Pip was good and while he worked with him to improve his areas of weakness. Pippen gets a lot of credit for being the reason Jordan won and I understand the angle but I can’t delete from my memory the same Scottie Pippen in Portland with teams far more talented than any CHI team he played on failed to help win anything. With that being said: no player makes the NBA without talent. That’s a given. What this convo was really about was how star players interact with the talent on their teams. Some players choose to exile guys; some chose to abandoned guys; others choose to take what their given and find a way to get the best out of whoever’s around them.

[@legendarywiimaster]

@@FamMoney510 the thing is most of LeBron’s early Cavs teammates didn’t respect him. (Except for Big Z) Most times they were asked to pair up with another teammate and shoot free throws and LeBron was left alone. MJs teammates as far as I know did have respect for him

[@archerbluth]

Exactly, lebron is notorious for shipping away raw players! Either way there are so many reasons why I would pick MJ over Bron as GOAT..

[@legendarywiimaster]

@@archerbluth early Cleveland he wasn’t doing that, and look where it got him. Him shipping Wiggins off was a good idea because there was no telling how he was going to turn out. He wasn’t even GM until 2017

[@Jearrod]

Unc put his foot down 😂😂

[@Bigtank9401]

To me, there is No Overall GOATs. You can have multiple GOATs and LBJ is one of them. My criteria is Top 3 in your position all time. IDK why people still try to fight this. Face the music. MJ is a GOAT, LBJ is a GOAT.

[@deetheoriginal3117]

Facts the Goat Debate is so dumb

[@Dipset415]

The argument gets so heated cause Lebron is not in mj class💯and the people who put Lebron in there never talk skills they talk stats and come up with a million excuses that are counterintuitive to everything sports is. Lebron did sucka shit to try and take the easy way out and his fans be like he the goat

[@Yooojayy]

@@Dipset415go home unc mj trash Bron the goat miles better

[@GtaBillionaire]

That eastern conference is the easy route in today's era. That's true

[@jqualls7901]

Ticket TV needed me up there with them Bronsexuals ‼️💯💯

[@brandoncronan348]

Ticket the smartest man on this call

[@Yooojayy]

Pls stop it😂

[@lackss7120]

Hearing about all time teammates just makes me respect giannis more

[@dredre2684]

To be fair the nba was in the hospital

[@jazzroyale7260]

@@dredre2684 Not only that but he had all defensive all star Jrue Holiday. He had all star 20PPG bucket in Middleton, another stud in Brook Lopez who is the all time nets scorer, all star and was in the running for DPOY. He had a nice 6th man in Portis and one of the best 3&D role players in basketball in PJ Tucker. His team was nice asf. People act like he won with D’Angelo Russell & Kyle Kuzma.

[@josephjackson8658]

Lebron ask for mo Williams 🤣🤣🤣

[@vikkibowers4301]

Jordan developed his team. LeBron used everyone up...

[@sanjisay8232]

If by used up you mean made them champions and changed the trajectory of their lives and careers forever...then yeah

[@vikkibowers4301]

@@sanjisay8232 nope.

[@ItzMalick]

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[@BballBully]

Kobe said his trade request was cap. People love to ignore that part all the time

[@mrmillz7841]

The way people just act like the decision lebron and kd made we’re similar and they weren’t if you actually look at the entire picture 😭😭

[@aquartermil]

Yes tf it was 😭 Lebron Dwade and Bosh is definitely equivalent to Kd Steph and klay stop this dumb ass narrative man them decision were the same just kd and them won more

[@JohnnyBGood-vm7rx]

But we all know KD wouldn't have left if not for Bron.

[@Iam2toneT]

@@aquartermil no it is not the same at all. Lebron went to a team that had no success and also didn’t beat him. Kd literally joined a team that was already a contender those are 2 very different things

[@Iam2toneT]

@@JohnnyBGood-vm7rx that’s false lmao kd’s mentality would’ve made him leave regardless

[@ItzMalick]

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[@storiesofyonko]

Ticket vs Low is something I nobody saw coming

[@Jestir1234]

As someone who watched Pippen in the 90s it’s so bizarre seeing him being gassed up to outer space by today’s media and fans for the sake of elevating LeBron and diminishing MJ. He was good but not a super star. In todays league he’d be a Paul George or Ben Simmons

[@manz7860]

Same thing with Pau Gasol. I've seen way too many people imply he was just as dominant as shaq.

[@cashmoney6935]

Nah fam you're dragging it with the Ben Simmons comparison Pippen was actually a threat to score. And Pip was a top 10 player in the 90s and is arguably a top 5 SF all time. I never understood the hate for Pippen or why people under rate him so much

[@private-nobody6667]

Question: Did Jordan win chips without Pip?

[@judahmourneth1466]

@@private-nobody6667 no he didn’t. But that’s all he needed was a competent number 2 guy, and a system. Lebron needs wade, kyrie, love, ray Allen, AD, Dwight, rondo.

[@samuelyancy7323]

He’s arguably the greatest defensive wing of all time, an MVP candidate, and a very well rounded offensive player and he was on the dream team. I’d say he’s a superstar tbh

[@jmar5127]

I stand by this being the best way to judge everyone fairly. 1. How dominant were u in your era 2. Hoe long was your Dominance 3. Did your dominance equate to Winning and personal accolades. Using that model is by far the most fair across the board. The worst thing u can do is cross compare eras. There's too many intricate details to factor in.

[@kohsmoger1567]

Yeah we can't use a time machine and send people forward or back so the whole cross era stuff is a bunch of hypotheticals no one truly knows.

[@makesmartTROYces]

With LeBron, there's damn near no way he was beating the Warriors in 2017 or 2018, nobody could (except for the rockets in 2018) they lost 1 game in 2017, and 5 games in 2018 I don't think the 2007 or 2018 finals should be held against him

[@sa9245]

@@makesmartTROYces Agreed. But I mean they didn't have Kevin Love for the finals in 2015, and they lost Kyrie in game 1. It is hard to blame a dude for losing when the next two best players on the team aren't available for the series. The only series I hold against him really is 2011. It was just an abysmal and embarrassing performance all round.

[@josephjudah77]

Players wanting to be traded is not the same as those players trying to create superteams

[@ItzMalick]

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[@eugenestaniel]

You think players would leave crappy teams to play on another one lmao

[@josephjudah77]

@@eugenestaniel so anything other than a super is a crappy team ?

[@BjFaniran]

OG was not having it 🤣🤣

[@Antjj2001]

Hating on Lbj while wearing a Miami hat crazy

[@ItzMalick]

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[@chasestacks7792]

The point ticket was trying to make is that cavs supporting cast was not trash. They had decent players multiple players in double digits

[@Yooojayy]

They were not good they put those numbers up because the team they play in were trash empty stats

[@Ray-dn5yq]

Kevin Love was averaging 26pts,12 rebounds in his last year with Twolves.. He wasn't no scrub. Chris Bosh was averaging 24pts, 11 rebounds in his last year with Raptors...he wasn't no scrub too.

[@alexanderjackson8389]

They love to underrate them to uplift Lebron

[@darrengordon-hill]

@@alexanderjackson8389 Seen many "lottery teams" and "bad organisation". They CANNOT make a guy get 25&15!! That's HIM!!

[@Iam2toneT]

He never called them scrubs lmao he said it was empty stats lmao which is kinda true

[@omarhasan03]

@@Iam2toneT No it isn't. They can't help the team they are on. To get those numbers when elite teams are focused on you is exceptional.

[@Iam2toneT]

@@omarhasan03 do you know what empty stats are? It’s when you average good numbers and don’t win anything at all on a regular basis. Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m all of those years before teaming up with lebron I don’t remember them winning mvp’s, dpoty, or anything lmao the most they got to show is one most improved award so yes they did have empty stats

[@bundydachosen1]

“Kobe was the most loyal player !” Yeah …. Ok 😂

[@migattenokobe2562]

Lebron is great but he definitely took the easy way out. That laid the foundation for kd’s even more egregious move. Taking the easiest path then hoping years later people will forget the context and details. They’ll just credit you the championships all while downplaying the team you were on.

[@justone9181]

Exactly, during the Heatles introduction he said “it’s going to be EASY” that right there verifies that he thought it was going to be an easy path to chips

[@ItzMalick]

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[@legendarywiimaster]

@@justone9181 all he wanted to do was to win and Cleveland wasn’t helping so he needed a situation that would give him a great shot at winnjng

[@Anthonydu01630]

Just a question, if Wade and Bosh were so good, why the HEAT didn’t win ? Do you think the KD Warriors would lose if KD had a bad performance ? No because they were a fucking 73-9 team that went to the finals 2 consecutive times and won 1 WITHOUT HIM. On the other hand, the HEAT couldn’t even make the playoffs in 2015 without Lebron, that team is overated.

[@migattenokobe2562]

@@Anthonydu01630 wade was hurt at times and bosh went out with that heart/lungs/cardio issue. 😂 see how lebron fans like to gloss over details. They actually had a good record before those two had issues .

[@rsgtoastyomen4933]

the guy on the top left was getting tilted for a while before he interrupted.

[@danielgibson8799]

This dude sounds like LeBron’s not even top 5. There’s perfectly valid reasons to have Jordan over LeBron. There’s no valid reason to say that LeBron’s a fraud or runs away from a challenge. Having Mo Williams as your second best player in his first cleveland run wasn’t good enough to make a deep playoff run. Was the team “bad.” Absolutely not. It also wasn’t the 90’s bulls. LeBron’s miami teams weren’t the 90’s bulls! It’s absolutely ridiculous that how Jordan gets no scrutiny and LeBron gets called a fraud if he sneezes on the court.

[@rayanr3857]

Agree with everything but for a star caliber player as good as LeBron, those teams were awful. Mo Williams put up 17 ppg earlier in his career on empty teams. That’s like if Giannis had Malik Beasley as his second best player and people were like the bucks did a good job. I mean he did put up 19.6 points one season without context he would be a “good” championship teammate right? That dude is so off.

[@thaiota]

Even Bill Russell had Bob Cousy

[@derquandoucett7986]

Magic had no choice to play with Kareem he got drafted there. Now I’m not saying magic wouldn’t have or was upset with playing with Kareem but that’s a bad comparison to lebron joining wade

[@youngerudit2524]

Lebron played thru all his contracts too...people like to ignore that but he's a FREE AGENT..why tf would he go sign another long term deal with a team he dont wanna stay in?

[@joejett5084]

The 80s and 90s were easier to build teams because there was like 22 teams and the late 80s like 5 teams were added to the league and then 2 more in 95. If you built your championship team already in the late 80s….you were going to dominate the 90s. Jordan is still the goat but at best lebron could claim to be equal to Jordan.

[@ausar09]

It's easier than ever to put teams together now, I can tell u never actually watched 80s and 90s basketball. Jordan wanted players and the GMs would not get them

[@joejett5084]

@@ausar09 peace god, the context I was speaking from was being able to build a team through the draft and having the ability to pick players who went through the collegiate process that made players more mature and polished, instead of drafting on potential and waiting to see what you have in the time that the player could of been in college. There are always exceptions and even extreme disasters to use as examples but guys in the past time periods understood what they were playing for and had pride in the profession. There’s plenty of player movement but I would argue that many of these organizations and especially the players don’t develop a culture to build a “team” and rely on talent to win. That strategy has lebron at 4-6, still successful but given the stability older legends had and a more polished game, lebron could have achieved more. Jordan is still better tho, it’s not just about the ring count.

[@KleinpeterHank]

Also no free agency until the late 80s and no unrestricted free agency until the mid 90s.

[@ItzMalick]

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[@Yooojayy]

@@ausar09ur just old living of nostalgia today era is harder

[@terrencefields4115]

Low young man I like your commentary and I like your style I'm proud you didn't allow ticket with all of his insanity and loud mouth foolishness to intimate you keep up the good work brother because sooner than you think you will be the old head but at least you are bringing common sense and facts you will appeal to people who look for someone who decipher through all of this noise left over from the old school guys peace to you brother.

[@LuRe_KiiNGz]

I’m glad someone put ticket in his place 😂 he’s always so damn hype over what? Doing way too much.

[@deetheoriginal3117]

I never understood why people get this mad over opinions and sports 💀

[@2rawww4tvkd]

@@deetheoriginal3117 Ticket ain mad y’all chumps don’t know basketball , jus a fanboy

[@terrencefields4115]

Greetings brother low after watching this video and seeing you on other platforms I can honestly say that you are The Legend of Winning, I will continue to enjoy your commentary in the future peace to you 😊

[@zekken4515]

If Lebron “held his nuts” and stayed with the Cavs he would’ve ended up like Dame maybe Dirk.

[@legendarywiimaster]

And people like Skip Baseless would be criticizing him for losing even though he was so good he kept them out of the lottery every year and Dan Gilbert decided not to trade J Hickson for Amare Stoudemire

[@elmztana1201]

So he couldn’t at least 1 without help . Is he that great then ?

[@connorsmith6517]

@@elmztana1201 Literally nobody has ever won a championship without help. MJ had Scottie and Rodman, Kobe had Shaq and Gasol, Magic had Kareem and worthy, Bird had Mcchale and Parish, Steph had Klay, Dray, and KD. Nobody has ever won a championship, let alone multiple. Without all star and hall of fame caliber teammates. Lebron is top 5 all time, If not higher.

[@khazak-yaohgad5662]

LeBron left his hometown team to get a ring somewhere else because he didn't have the patience and work ethics to stay home. And then he went back to play with Ervin? Come on.

[@legendarywiimaster]

LeBron had the work ethic and he waited seven years and got very little

[@ItzMalick]

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[@khazak-yaohgad5662]

@@legendarywiimaster 7years or whatever time is what I believe many NBA players call paying your dues. Detroit beat the shit outta Jordan! What did he do? He got Chicago to build around him while he fought and figured it out. Another thing is LeBron made a huge impact when he entered the league but it was not like the Jordan impact. When Jordan came many felt this is going to be the best ever and he showed it from day one. LeBron problem is that Mike term was before LeBron! That alone is like climbing Mt.Everett! Had it been the other way around and he played first then he would have had a better change to hold Mike's position! Also had they played in the same Era Mike would have still been the winner he is compared to LeBron because it is just in him. That's why he never quit. No I don't know him personally, but I know basketball and the drive it takes when you truly love the game!

[@legendarywiimaster]

@@khazak-yaohgad5662 Yeah you can’t get an organization to build around you when your owner is Dan Gilbert and Danny Ferry is your GM

[@khazak-yaohgad5662]

But he's LeBron? Let's look at Curry. How many years did he stay and work it out to the point that he has the same amount as LeBron if you count the bubble year 2hich I think is trash because there was nothing normal about that whole year! If not for the money it would not have been played! And had it been a full season we may be looking at 3 rings instead of 4. He is stronger and maybe even a higher basketball IQ who knows? But what I can see that they both have but Mike's is through the roof. It's that thing that most can't teach. It's called tenacity! It's that good and nasty Thang that Mike used to out weigh all other players. Then there is the analytics that you all seem to ignore where LeBron just gets crushed by Mike. The perception of one's reality! How do you view honesty? because when I was in my prime I play out of position a lot against bigger taller. 6'2.5 playing 6'6 to 6'10 and smoked many or made it hard for them to score. So LeBron being bigger for me it has a lot of weight with lesser skilled players. That's just not Mike!

[@Dagoat2000]

Dude just said Kyrie, AD, K Love and Chris bosh were putting up empty stats before lebron hahaha! Low I tend to agree on most things but that’s completely outrageous of a take.

[@legendarywiimaster]

It was a dumb take but TBF they weren’t leading their teams to anything significant

[@dryames4319]

True, but its the fact he's trying to make them out as scrubs that's particularly egregious. And tbh with that same logic, outside of 2007 and 2018, LeBron wasn't leading his team to shit either.

[@jazzroyale7260]

@@dryames4319 Yes LeBron was leading his teams further and did better than Chris Bosh, Kevin Love, and Kyrie Irving led teams. Bosh made the playoffs like once or twice with Toronto and lost in the 1st rd. Love 0 playoff experience, and Kyrie was a younging with no playoff experience either. A LeBron led team in his first playoffs 3rd season took a defending champion Detroit team to 7 games in the ECSF with Big Z and Jeff McGinnis. The next yr he went to the finals with Big Z, Gooden, Varejao, and Boobie Gibson. In 08 he took the Celtics to 7 games in the ECSF with Big Z and Delonte West. In 09 he won 66 games with Mo Williams and Delonte West 🤣 That’s like winning 66 games with Malcolm Brogdon & Gary Trent Jr. 🤣🤣🤣 But sure why didn’t LeBron win a chip with that. It’s funny man I keep going but it shows LeBron contributes to winning more than K Love, Kyrie, and Bosh. He makes his team better, those players weren’t even doing those things when they had their own team, 2 out of those 3 players didn’t even make the playoffs 🤣🤣 Man ya some hating casuals.

[@det705]

LMFAOOOO this Nigga ticket is funny asf 😭🤣🤣

[@k-kraft2055]

We really need to stop comparing players from different decades and eras

[@cmgaming6980]

just comparisons in general

[@DgSezn]

I think the problem is people not being able to be objective and use stats that take into account the difference in pace and defense in that era and actually watch film on things that don’t go into the stat sheet

[@benjaminan1183]

That'll never happen.

[@manz7860]

Lebrons not even the league defining player of his own era lmao.

[@ItzMalick]

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[@Ether_Liner_Ado_Edem]

For 2 seconds I thought low was actually apart of that podcast

[@ItzMalick]

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[@orvillewright122]

Jordan was a shorter player than LeBron and played the guard position that was not a good rebounding or necessarily playmaker position but he excelled at those stats for his position relatively with fewer turnovers and significantly higher scoring without stats padding.

[@orvillewright122]

The players had freedom to choose where they played in the late 1980s and players requested trade long before Kobe in 1975 or’74 when Kareem was traded to the Lakers. Kobe gave Lakers management and owner the choice of making the roster better or trade him in a team that gave a chance to win championships again. Jordan and Kobe had opportunities to leave in free agency but resigned with the team that they were already championship winners with.

[@mystictv9408]

I would have to disagree w/ LOW on the last 1:30 of the vid. Yes I can agree lebron didn’t have all time talent with the cavs when they won 66 games & before but for one u can’t take away their all star credibility when they performed great w/ other teams but if u notice every individual who was considered a all star benefit b4 they played w/ bron, soon as they play with him they don’t perform the same & that’s not brons fault or anyone else in the league fault for why they lost the playoffs. Which goes into my 2nd point once bron got these all stars around 08-10 (after Boston) they were the number one team in the league both seasons which includes the western conference so I believe lebron has to take accountability for just losing. I could understand arguing when he lost to the Celtics but losing to Orlando when both teams were healthy is no excuse. Especially when you considered their were only limited amounts of stacked teams everybody else was well balanced or trash. Then losing to the Mavs was no excuse then the spurs the 2nd time. Nobody was complaining when he was winning in Miami on 32 game win streaks but get to the finals and lose

[@redpillproductions7187]

Everything you said was 100% valid except the "that's not Lebrons fault that those All Stars played worst when they were paired with Bron" (paraphrased). LeBron is really ball dominate and didn't allow them to play their style. Love & Bosh had to be at the 3 pt line way more and LeBron took touches from AD, Wade, Kyrie and even Ray Allen. But ya whole comment was needed and very valid.

[@jamesR1990]

The Miami stuff you're 100% right on. But the Cleveland stuff you're dead wrong. The "talent" in players like Jameson, when Cleveland acquired them, are vastly overrated. Jameson was an All-Star and putting up numbers on a Wizards team w/o a true superstar. It was by committee and empty stats on a losing team. Mo Williams was not that good and everyone else was unspectacular. When you watch how they performed when allowed to have their moments on those Cleveland teams you see how outclassed they were. When they lost to Orlando, LeBron was obviously the best player on the court, then Orlando had Dwight Howard, Rashard Lewis, Hedo, and Nelson. Every one of those guys at that point were better than anyone else on Cleveland. It's not a surprise when you are beat by a team that has the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th best players in a series all together.

[@legendarywiimaster]

Dwight Howard was surrounded by shooters, no one could guard Howard so they double-teamed him then kicked it out to one of the shooter like JJ Redick. Also, LeBron was putting up 35 a game in that series

[@ItzMalick]

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[@jmgonzales7701]

@@redpillproductions7187 Yeah, problem with lebron before was he didn't really had much of a bag before. He was very athletic and can have great shooting games but he didn't really have any go to moves or tweaks in his playstyles so he can preserve his energy. My problem with him is he takes the ball for like 12 seconds or so then either drives strong or kicks it out, even thou he is hard to stop it makes his playstyle look predictable. I guess its due to him not really playing in college and not learning the fundamentals. had he allowed himself to play in a good system and tweak his game to have more of a jumpshot he might have won more.

[@lcceo22]

THANK YOU for shutting down the “HE DIDN’T RUN!” Bullshit narrative People are only ok with owners and GM’s building a winner, but not ok with players who take their careers into their own hands.”

[@ItWillBeSteve]

This whole argument is subjective. There's so much nuance when it comes to evaluating these players and most people seem to ignore context so they can have these absolute black and white reasons for why their goat is THE goat. For example using career accolades as a sum of a players ability like a lot of people like to do for LeBron or Wilt. Accolades are a part of the equation, but not everything. Not even close. Mj is the Goat and Larry Bird is the perfect basketball player. 😉

[@jlui21]

Bird is my favorite followed closely by Hakeem. MJ is the GOAT (for me). But props to Lebron for being mature since age 18 and dominating for 2 decades. He only made 1 mistake -- when he televised his switch to MIA...well, the other is "okaying" the Westbrick trade, lol.

[@terrencefields4115]

Young Man you are living proof that youth is more intelligent than old guys because your logic is running circles around ticket not since Jonnie Cochran, has a case been presented so factual and with class, don't get me wrong ticket, skip Bayless are very knowledgeable but their hatred of LeBron cheapens them.

[@Knocks-lol]

OG the goat 😂😂

[@ItzMalick]

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[@Imperium83]

These men are having the adult version of who's the coolest Ninja Turtle by the way... why do people get so mad lmao.

[@noahentertainment7298]

I never get why people have a problem with LeBron team-hopping. Wayne Gretzky was team-hopping during his career and people still view him as the GOAT of the NHL.

[@moman3w]

Basketball fans just wanna be different

[@manz7860]

I honestly can't even name one other hockey superstar.

[@manz7860]

@@stratosphere2323 the great ones stay put. They definitely don't go running with their tails between their legs like lebum and especially KD

[@moman3w]

@@manz7860 please name one good reason bron should’ve stayed out for an organization that failed to put together a good team for him for several years. He wasn’t blessed like players like kobe or mj or Duncan who didn’t have to wait long to be in a perfect situation

[@moman3w]

@@manz7860 free agents don’t go to Cleveland and as long as bron was there they wasn’t gonna have good draft picks

[@tashrif46]

6:16 Yeah this episode was crazy. First Ticket starts talking over everybody. Then Jason Williams and Chltown start cussing and then Del also started throwing expletives for little to no reason.

[@jamjos294]

yeah,,ticket had these guys in their feelings...ticket handled dem

[@libanali8562]

@@jamjos294 yea aight 😹😹

[@jerryjackson9148]

What’s funny is you say he’s dumb and Cleveland didn’t build around him but they had the following: 4 50+ win seasons, to include 2 60+ win seasons (08-09 season best record in NBA and 09-10 season best record in NBA) Mo Williams was an all star in the 08-09 season btw. 06-07 Finals appearance 2 out of 5 seasons had a NBA top 5 rated defense and 3 out 5 seasons had a top 10 defense during his tenure in Cleveland the first time. He also only beat one 50+ win team from 2003-2010. The fact is Cleveland gave LeBron a competent team he just couldn’t do anything with them.

[@manz7860]

I hate when people act like they were complete scrubs. It was actually a half decent squad. Hence why they had winning seasons. People make it sound like they were a 20 win team.

[@y2shuproblem]

The 66 2008-09 Cavs lost to the Magic in the ECF.

[@darrengordon-hill]

THANK YOU!!

[@aquartermil]

Tryna tell you his teams were good bro even great some years. They just see todays era where Mfs teaming up, and the evolution of the game where everyone (can/want) to do everything on the floor and act like Mfs wasn’t like that back then. Most the time Lebron the one who sold in the playoffs. Orlando, spurs

[@jerryjackson9148]

@@y2shuproblem I miss spoke I meant one of those years. But that further proves my point they put competent talent around him. And traded away good peices to appease LBJ like boozer and Hughes

[@brayv_8]

I had sports arguments this heated before too. I was in 8th grade back then though. I don’t know why grown men are getting this upset about sports, especially when all they’re doing is copy and pasting Skip and Shannon talking points anyway.

[@Hollowfrobe]

Why act like people in the 90s didn’t get traded lol low you can sign a contract in the 90s and get traded stop acting like you couldn’t

[@ItzMalick]

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[@Christhedon96]

I need a joint after hearing those old heads go at it 😮‍💨

[@chris_sales8909]

No way u said kevin love and AD aren’t doing anything they were dominating

[@Iam2toneT]

So they dominated with nothing to show for it?

[@omarhasan03]

@@Iam2toneT They were on bad teams but Bosh, AD, and Love were all dominant players. Lebron was dominant in his first stint with Cleveland yet had very little to show for it.

[@ItzMalick]

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[@jazzroyale7260]

AD & Wade is the only ones I give LeBron as true HOF guys that are actually doing things to lead their to team to wins. The others…NO. They were putting up nice stats on teams that weren’t going anywhere and as the main guy they weren’t taking them anywhere.

[@jmar5127]

Not only that, Dwade was a shell of himself for 2 of the 4 yrs. Lol

[@legendarywiimaster]

Well even in 2013 he wasn’t bad but 2014 yeah injuries riddled him hard

[@1JLegend]

My favorite part was when the guy made a face while the other guy was talking and he said im not done as if the face was interrupting him.

[@BballBully]

The reason why people criticize lebron “taking his own career into his hands” is because as a player, not every player in the nba had the luxury to do that as well during the time lebron was doing it. The flaw people have in giving a lebron a pass for joint superstars is that, they compare lebron playing on a stacked team, to other greats playing on stacked teams. But the problem there, why compare those teams, lebron didn’t play them. Lebron played the teams in his era who didn’t get prepared for lebron to form a super team. So lebron gave himself a head start against the competition he faced after stacking his teams. So thereeeee is where lebron gave himself an advantage against Jordan. Jordan played teams in his era who stayed with their teams and the results are the results.

[@Anthonydu01630]

Bullshit ! Lebron played against the Big 3 SPURS of Duncan, Parker and Ginobili in 07, then against KG, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen and Rondo in 08, then against KD, Russ, Harden (3 futur MVP)+ 2x Block champ Ibaka, then 2 times against the Big 4 Spurs with Kawhi, then 2x against the Big 3 73-9 win Warriors and 2x against the Mega team with KD. And even the MAVS had a prime Dirk, an old Jason Kidd and the 2011 DPOY Tyson Chandler. Kobe also hadPau Gasol (Top 5 big man), Ron Artest (former DPOY) and great role players like Lamar Odom and Andre Bynum, then he had a prime fucking Dwight Howard and a 37 yo Steve Nash who was an all star the year before. Wade in 2005-2006 had Shaq, Alonzo Mourning and old Gary Payton, the Piston had 4x DPOY Ben Wallace, Chauncey Billup, Tayshaun Prince and Rasheed Wallce … People need to stop acting like there was no Big 3 or even Big 4 before the Lebron heat, and don’t tell le yeah but they were the first to do that with free agency because KG and Ray Allen went to Boston in 08 as free agent

[@jaywally6322]

@@Anthonydu01630 THANK YOU sheeeesh its like people forget 95% of what actually happened on the court n create these false narratives full of incomplete bullshit 🤦🏿 every year lbj went to the finals it was competitive...jordan on the other hand was favorites EVERY time but this dude wanna act like lbj was the one who had the overwhelming advantage smmfh why, cuz ticket's over here screaming out false narratives about StAcKiNg ThE DeCk? 😂

[@malevolent9505]

@@Anthonydu01630 agreed 💯