Fred Again Exposed! Fantano Sued! INSANE Piano Plugin, Shure SM4 & more (WNN)

[@skatechatham]

Are people going to start pretending that the last 15 years of EDM weren't built on Vengeance sample packs too?

[@R3BBiT]

Thats more in the realm of one shots instead of full on loops

[@PREXSE]

@@R3BBiT Spot on!

[@danceswith7wolves]

The only people caring about that kind of stuff is other producers... No casual listener has ever said, omg this song used splice loops therefore I can't enjoy it

[@Pabloesc571]

​@@R3BBiTsound design is pretty much the only thing you have to do in edm though lol

[@Pabloesc571]

​@@danceswith7wolvesyeah sure but you're still a fxcking fraud and you know it :) tell your friends that you actually made none of the music you showed to them in the past let's see their reaction.

[@jamescarlsmith710]

Nice to see WNN getting sponsored ❤

[@morgengabe1]

Nah. Now he's rigged like msm.

[@damian4590]

You cant sue someone for ruining your reputation if you already have a horrible reputation

[@Jadams1997hendrix]

Hilariously he actually has a great reputation. It's people like you who hop on the Internet and have no idea what they're talking about so they say shit that isn't true and creates a fake narrative against people because you saw someone say something hateful about him. Good job. You're the pure definition of a follower.

[@officialkidwizard]

​@@Jadams1997hendrixfound the Radke alt

[@damian4590]

@saylezz now I'm wondering why I even pay for a therapist when some npc is yapping like he's got me figured out. I guess overly sensitive men like radke attract an overly sensitive fan base. Go figure

[@dooshnukem32]

@@Jadams1997hendrix oh we're doing big feelings today?

[@Uncle_Houndy]

@@dooshnukem32 pfft feelings are for pussies

[@oneizzyjones]

The whole point of splice is to use it. Sometimes the producer community is pretentious for the sake of existing. Who cares.

[@Weaverbeats]

Using 4 splice loops on one song is funny as fuck

[@oneizzyjones]

@@Weaverbeats I see it is funny too. But then again, look at history, I would say “Love in this club” by Usher is also another case that’s just a massive hit, regardless of personal liking. Polow Da Don used all GarageBand loops to create it. I still think it’s about the feeling a lot more than it is about the source.

[@AutoNamer1]

@@oneizzyjonesalso a trash uncreative song that was hyped by record labels

[@instantnoodle80]

“It's not where you take things from - it's where you take them to." Jim Jarmusch

[@oneizzyjones]

@@instantnoodle80 i hear you but in hip hop it does not matter. sometimes musicians like myself can be pretentious and think it’s the standard. But I hear you

[@KaySwiss420]

I mean, Fred Again has already shown the world his performing skills, we know his talent ceiling. Fact is, the industry requires fast food products for the masses, maybe he was running late on some timeline and said fuck it, let's just stacks some splice loops on top of each other. It's lazy and uncreative for sure, but we've seen this man on NPR desk doing some awesome shit so I really don't mind at the end of the day. I definetely would not encourage young and upcoming producers to do that cause it doesn't benefit your growth and experience as an artist, but for Fred he can get a pass for a song atleast.

[@fearofjazz7369]

By far the most over rated artist of the last 20 years.

[@KaySwiss420]

@@fearofjazz7369 Yeah aight buddy go back to your cave

[@KZeni]

Yeah, not every song needs to be a magnum opus, or whatever. That song seemingly went for a simple vibe and it’s not surprising to hear those are the elements that comprised it. Electronic music having occasionally simplistic composition happens, and that’s fine as long as there’s more than that in their other songs (which there definitely is.)

[@AutoNamer1]

He capitalises on the lack of knowledge you lot have of “insane awesome stuff” really is. He is just a lad who can DJ 😂

[@KZeni]

@@AutoNamer1 Who was out there saying his song “Ten” was revolutionary, an incredible labor of love, “insane awesome stuff”, or whatever you seem to be saying people are/were propping it up to be? It seems like you’re making something up something that really isn’t an issue to be against here. It’s more likely his other songs or performances (Boiler Room, Tiny Desk, ambient album, one of his standout hits or deeper cuts, various performances/collabs/releases, etc.) which really can/do show more effort and/or expertise got notice and people find they like the kind of music he makes so they keep tuned in where some of what they check out next can be liked more, less, or not at all at that point (ex. song-by-song basis such as this one while one can group together what they like/dislike overall from them to keep gauging where they stack up personally for them as an artist.) That’s kinda the expected thing for music, right? Why wouldn’t that also likely apply here? Trying to take one’s view of an artist overall (which could be of a high regard) to seem like that’s that they must think of all of their songs (when a song like this is far from a flagship title, hit, or whatever) seems like an overly simplistic analysis of things. You then framing that as people just not knowing music seems more like a superiority complex being exhibited here to push a personal view per what I just outlined seems just as, if not more, likely compared to what you proposed. People can like stuff you personally might not like (and vice-versa) while being just as, if not more, knowledgeable when it comes to music. Also, it should be mentioned that the amount of complexity or sweat equity a song has does not always translate to the emotional resonance or overall enjoyment of that song. As much as one would want effort to equate to results with art, music, or some other more subjective mediums… that just isn’t the case. At the end of the day… what is the point of music? Focus on that. Sorry for the lengthy response. Just seeing someone being negative due to thinking they’re better than others when it’s such a subjective (and sometimes even situational on top of that) medium needs those things pointed out from time to time.

[@Bthelick]

All condenser mics have a "clock" if you didn't know. It's a charged metal plate spluttered with gold. That's how all of em are made.

[@KyleZellers-kx3yd]

Hi, I love your channel and you’ve helped me learn to make music! :)

[@Bthelick]

@@KyleZellers-kx3yd hey Kyle thanks, that's great to hear ❤️

[@KyleZellers-kx3yd]

@@Bthelick of course! I really appreciate you and you’re a huge help!

[@richardchavez1376]

Coming thru with the knowledge! fan of your channel too! 💯😮‍💨

[@nyfal3193]

Nba youngboy being convicted for 60 felonies is the least surprising thing of 2024.

[@mycosys]

Trump still has him beat - 88 felony charges, 34 proven.

[@crnkmnky]

​@@mycosys *34 < 60*

[@mycosys]

@@crnkmnky 88>60

[@goodvibesvince]

Tons of artists are just putting together splice loops… and it’s working. Not as easy as it seems to make a huge record; splice or not. Lazy? Maybe. Efficient? Definitely! This is the era of ai, technology, kids making viral records on their iPhone. The listener doesn’t care how you get it done, as long as you get it done.

[@redabitar]

Agree, if you are so concerned with making things from scratch just sell your own sample packs… then wait, people use them and you call them lazy 🤣

[@alexmancera6566]

@@redabitarahahaha so true

[@happyshadow]

Quincy Jones got other people to write/record/perform all of Michael Jackson's songs. Such a cheater, can't believe he didn't even program/edit his own drum parts.

[@heppiesdumdum9910]

@@happyshadowActual dumbass.

[@jonahblock]

Plus real artists put work into those sample packs, it would be a shame to waste them

[@afrosymphony8207]

The fred again thing is just so fooking stupid, being a pro is knowing when not to touch a sample cause its perfect the way it is. you dont have to tweak the shit out of eevery single fuckn sample because you wanna show people you can chop samples. it reminds me of the ppl who think making their kicks and sounds from scratch makes their music better than other ppl especially people who use stock fl studio sounds and drum kits. thats just your creative insecurity looking for validation from people.

[@zekegohard43]

I've seen a Reddit post about the same Fred Again.. track for using Splice loops a while ago as well, although I was surprised, he still chopped the main loop pretty damn well instead of just throw it on the track and let it loop...and the whole track with the vocal is so amazing imo, one of my favorite track of the year even. So I think we can let him slide this time🤣🤣

[@makolikeamfshark]

Ronnie Radke suing people for their opinion is why nobody likes Ronnie Radke

[@mycosys]

Izotope Elements plugs were useful until the VC firm that bought NI nerfed em

[@jaderington]

What is Nerfed ?

[@nico-vc3es]

@@jaderingtonNerfed is like taking something that is too good and in some way making it less good?? it’s a term i learned from gaming, such as guns being too good so the developers nerf them to be more fit with others.

[@mycosys]

@@jaderington turned it from a tool into a toy - like a nerf gun with foam darts rather than a real gun

[@7vensoundz851]

@@mycosys Lol Why troll? They relied on you for information.

[@mycosys]

@@7vensoundz851 you ok hunni? need a snickers?

[@Eclectic_City]

Love Audius. Creating there since 2021

[@tungochuy]

If you put a bunch of splice samples together without any huge effort and make it a cohesive album, i would applaud you for that

[@XckBrm]

1:42 lol @ Weaver not knowing what a diaphragm looks like

[@saint_r3x]

Seeing you grow is so satisfying

[@JethroDAvis024]

Hell yeah! My man with the sponsor! ❤

[@andybutane3176]

Alot of modern controllers have on board batteries

[@drastically143]

You no likee defending MGK, well i'm right here trying to accept that i have to defend fantano. We truly live in a weirdest reality simulation

[@apoplexiamusic]

8:52 for context Mr. Cizek is Andy Cizek, vocalist of Monuments and Termina (Nik Nocturnal’s project). A great vocalist who hasn’t shied away from his opinions on the metal/rock world’s toxic predators

[@U43A]

Love ya mate! Keep goinnnnnn

[@user-zx5gg8od6l]

I had a 10 yr old guitar student who looked just like you with that hair cut and messed up teeth. He got kicked out of the school for saying violent thing to everybody and his mom was like 60 somehow.

[@crnkmnky]

okay

[@donnydarko7624]

I cant stand Fred again's music Idk what he made his tracks with though.

[@kevinmyrick218]

He sucks so bad

[@JulianBlythe]

ronnie's neck tat makes him look like a sock

[@exileisland2675]

Get that bag homie

[@siasss]

if you paid splice for sample you can legaly use it .Exposed to be a sampler producer like many legend in this game ? Lets just people make good music we don"t need afrojack aprobation to use tools .

[@fabiantombers4966]

Weaver beats reacting as if they see a microphone from the inside for the first time.

[@ElectroCouture]

Who cares about Fred using samples? I guarantee that those same samples in someone else's hands would not have the same magic touch... Fred is a magician.

[@crnkmnky]

*Shoutout to Just Blaze and Joe Budden for a bonafide **_and_** certified hit song. 🎶*

[@larrytan73]

If you guys don't already should have a breaking news segment!

[@max-on9jq]

btw Audius is a blockchain service based on Ethereum and Solana, if these chains go down it will go down too

[@user82938]

I heard a couple tunes from some rando on KZbin and they sounded really nice. Then I saw in the comments he was actually just layering Splice loops.

[@GgWifi-ot2sh]

all shure mics pretty much do all that already looks like they threw a condenser case over an MV7 and added some gain

[@crnkmnky]

That Joe Budden story is weird. "Pump It Up" was certified as a "gold record" on August 30, 2023. I don't understand how a Grammy-nominated single can chart in six countries, feature in two hit films and two hit videogames, and _still_ take twenty years to sell 500K copies. Is online piracy to blame, or was somebody messing with the accounting books at Def Jam / UMG? 🤔

[@crnkmnky]

*Anyway, shoutout to Just Blaze and Joe Budden for a bonafide **_and_** certified hit. 🎶*

[@R01499-y]

People actually crying about Fred Again using Splice samples?' Grow tf up lol

[@mycosys]

The thing i dont get about using loops is its legit easier not to. Hit a few keys on an arp, set up a beat on kontakt&/maschine, it plays itself and you can tweak the noise.

[@AutoNamer1]

Facts

[@larrytan73]

I love what you do! With all this bullshit on the youtuber .Your channel is refreshing!

[@Leftblu]

that filter thingy in Ableton Note actually looks cool. I have done couple song sketches out there and that shit looks like a game changer... although I use Note like 5 times a year, and would guess it similar to other users so no wonder it only got something like this only now.

[@Antonio_Ortiz]

12:25: I feel your pain, but that's the price of integrity.

[@Scabadart]

Not gonna lie I love a good splice loop. My rule is that if I’m gonna use one in a track, I need to screw with it enough that no one would be able to call me out on it.

[@RePeterPod]

congrats on the sponsor Weaver!

[@mufcmusic8514]

Waff was using loops from day 1 and simply making the groovy bass lines ontop. Nothing new at all

[@buyingfireworks]

podcasters firing shots at the top for clickbait. journalist can't keep the numbers "3" and "4" straight in short article. fred uses modern, legal resources to quickly accomplish beautifully compelling songwriting. glad we're dunking on the right artform here.

[@dreamulator]

AYYY AUDIUS

[@ricgl84]

WEAVER!!! First sponsor yeah!

[@PantherModern_la]

its a crypto company 😂

[@Weaverbeats]

Nah I had a few sponsors a long time ago. I just been ignoring emails for a long time. I need to pay these vet bills though fr fr

[@Weaverbeats]

It's a music site (that pays you in crypto) not the same

[@PantherModern_la]

@@Weaverbeats dont you need a crypto wallet for that and wouldn’t the website need crypto backend to make that function? luv you weave - just not my fav sponsor - pay your bills tho, i get it

[@PoboyMusic]

Espresso by Sabrina Carpenter main loop was fron Oliver splice pack.

[@TriplicateTrey]

I bought a Shure Beta 58 this last Friday for a gig on Saturday. I stupidly didn’t test before arriving (it was a hectic weekend. 2 weddings and one party between my wife and I) And it was broken out of the box. The thumb switch just wiggles, and I can’t even get as much as a pop when connected. I switched back to my Pure Chinesium mic, and it saved the gig. Not really related, but I needed to vent. So, thank you for listening.

[@oppositelcr]

Thumb switch?? As far as I'm aware a Shure SM Beta 58A doesn't have a thumb switch. I think you got a counterfeit.

[@TudorNeve]

would be nice to know whether those were tonal or drum loops? if the former i can understand why it's problematic

[@Bthelick]

Splice defender here. We're making music here, doesn't matter how it's made. Same agruments against can be extended to use any 'cheat ' like how using drum machines was lazy, just get a real drummer, or let's go back a little further, using computers is lazy or even evil. Just go learn a real instrument. Shall I continue?

[@robertmoog3]

So glad to see someone as knowledgeable as you taking this stance. It doesn't matter how you make it, all that matters is the impact it creates. I swear that some people just whinge on about the "correct" creative process because they're dissatisfied with their own musical trajectory.

[@joeysaturday3420]

PURE COPE COPE COPE You are COPING Stick to your Shitty tutorials

[@AutoNamer1]

Evil Levels of Cope quit music get Ai to generate you pretty pictures instead of

[@robertmoog3]

@@AutoNamer1 coming from someone who has never written a piece of music I, or anyone else for that matter, has ever heard of. Stay mad little guy 😂

[@joeysaturday3420]

@@robertmoog3 Your Gay lover Bthelick is someone who has never written anything either, or played any real raves in the 90's or made music with the creators of House and Techno.

[@GO-lh3rt]

"you really gotta be careful of this kinda stuff" straight after saying (without evidence) that he's paying people off... yeah, be careful bb x

[@Resign1991]

MPC had nothing in the audio output though lmao

[@mathewszulman7659]

The only reason they are upset with fred is because of their perception. Now if you wanna call the song shit sure, but there are plenty of artists worth criticising over how their song was made than fred.

[@Uncle_Houndy]

What if I wanna get sicked by Ronnie Radke ?? Please allow it 🙏

[@user-zx5gg8od6l]

Just because a twitter or article or even news station says it’s true doesn’t make it true. People are making so much money these days from shit like this

[@Nug_Lord]

A SPONSOR?! I knew it was only a matter of time till you sold out smh you’ve changed (i am joking btw congrats)

[@DankDelish]

yooo if you click on the flower logo in the corner for that piano plugin it gives you a 10% discount. Really gotta click it a lot to get it to spin lmao

[@U43A]

Ps saw that mgk clip and it did go hard imo, dug it! with the batt powered mpc

[@ZZEROO99]

The Shure SM4 is marketed to streamers who have no idea about audio equipment. Its becoming the norm for these audio company's to pull the wool over streamers eyes because they are willing to drop serious dollars on equipment now. Its like the GOXLR thing all over again, a really over priced audio interface that is complete garbage made for streamers.

[@crnkmnky]

"But the ad tho… it looks sexy af. Surely it will make love… to my voice!" 🤤

[@danceswith7wolves]

@ Fred does a composer get less credit for conducting a symphony and not playing the instrument?

[@crnkmnky]

🤔

[@danceswith7wolves]

@@crnkmnky I mean composing not conducting... Listeners don't care how the songs get made they just either enjoy the composition or not

[@TheRetroBassist]

Promethazine can also be used to help you sleep, it's one of its side effects. I know because my psychiatrist prescribed it to me, but here in Brazil you don't actually need a prescription to buy this specific medication.

[@crnkmnky]

_Sleep!?_ No no no, you're using it all wrong. Waiting for you to upload some lean-fueled degeneracy.

[@indigobluu]

producers make sample packs, then get upset when producers use their sample packs 😂 like make it make sense

[@Beatsbasteln]

i love how you just said it's an erotic video and then the mic flys down to be plugged in :D

[@donnydarko7624]

Who even keeps their phone ringer on at all in 2024?

[@TannerByTheSea]

Ooooooo! I put 13 songs on waxx on a SHURE KSM27- I bet that shit jams.. I use an Atlantis now- but I want something to tote around- I bet this SM model Shure is dope.. nice 👍🏼 work Weaver

[@TannerByTheSea]

I’m getting that microphone- 👏🏼👏🏼 I will let you know how it sounds..

[@Runneround]

09:34 hilarious

[@GIDAEONGULLY]

Wow Joe Budden's Chorus went gold...

[@k2a2l2]

ronnie radke 💀

[@joechapman8208]

10:18 Is he going to sue me if I say he looks like Mickey Mouse?

[@11East]

I dont give 2 shits if people wanna use loops to make a track. Do what you want, if it sounds good people will like it. The only issue is if someone else has used the same loop in a track, then you both has issues.

[@djlckdwn3176]

audius has been goated from the getgo but this is definitely a new level of it, good to know those kinds of filters are a thing on there now. There was some kind of crypto mess that put a few people off it but it still is a really good soundcloud alt. also fred again got famous over a rework of a previously existing song so this splice thing isn't really surprising.

[@bonjourmyfriends]

I didn’t even know Joe Budden ever made music. I thought he was just a music critic who mainly complains about rappers half his age.

[@crnkmnky]

He had a hit single in 2003, produced by Just Blaze. It was huge, featured on numerous film and videogame soundtracks, and nominated for a Grammy. He called it "a gift and a curse." His album did well, but the label (Def Jam) started interfering creatively. They shelved his second album, and he left. Joe Budden released seven more albums independently. Some were critically and commercially successful. He also released eight mixtapes over a decade, and two successful albums with the group Slaughterhouse. As is often the case, "one-hit wonders" have a lot going on that isn't well-publicized. I think Budden still thought of rapping as his main profession until he retired six years ago. It's unfair that his rap career is a punchline now, but I applaud anyone honest enough to move on to new endeavors when a season has ended.

[@JazMystic1]

Off I go to find this Fred again song

[@Weaverbeats]

It's called ten

[@JazMystic1]

@@Weaverbeats thanks

[@kevinmyrick218]

I like this producer news vibe it’s dope. He’s probably clicking through stacks with splice, his music sounds generic and nothing generational certainly No Deadmau5, Fred again feels like the new marshmallow.

[@U43A]

Origin of samples: piratebay 🤣🤣

[@crnkmnky]

Who is in your profile photo?

[@U43A]

@@crnkmnky Klaus Schwab lol. Evil man

[@qtrax100]

you do realise that slider thing next to the deck changes tempo dont you????

[@zonashi8645]

Fred being a splice loop enjoyer pretty much explains why his music has never resonated with me. His stuff sounds like a splice commercial now that I think of it. Anytime his stuff hits my ears my brain instantly thinks “this sounds lifeless”. And that’s not a thought I want to have when I’m listening to music. Maybe it’s just me tho.

[@SynthfulDuck]

I'm with you. This false narrative that "nobody cares" seems to be pushed only by producers who dream of making a hit by being lazy.

[@AutoNamer1]

Yeah he’s an anti producer like Jacob collier

[@youngscott1074]

yo beaver I had sampled chalet in my beat it is on my channel named opium birds

[@crnkmnky]

I didn't realize "NBA" (Never Broke Again) was a single on Joe Budden's sixth album. Perhaps YoungBoy got that from him? 🤔 Being a repeat felon is definitely _not_ how be "N.B.A." Too bad…

[@as_the_turntables]

Right on time!

[@Drfresh1402]

I have never seen bs from Shure. Never. That mic has to be sick.

[@crnkmnky]

Probably, but everyone must leak a bit of poo eventually…

[@blizz2018]

The final result is whats counts . so i Fred uses splice who cares as long the final track is nice. Back in the days the tried the same with "Ninetoes - Finder " tthe track also uses a sample from a pack for the main loop/sound of track. But who cares its a banger maybe only real musicians get this...

[@nexeration]

I was invested in audios and made 200 dollar loooool

[@lilwombat]

caring about splice loops is lost people used to care that you didnt make your own drums then drumkits blew up this was bound to happen when loop kits started to blow up theres gonna be a time when ai prompts work so we cant tell and people will build tracks that way sad but its coming if ai keeps improving

[@JustChillinOnThe5thFloor]

You can't win so just make music and if you make fire shit...fuck 'em you made some fire shit. In the early 00s I was called lazy for using a DAW. In the 2010s I was called lazy cause I used samples. Now in the 2020s I'm being called lazy cause I use kits and AI stem seperation.

[@StevenNess]

shall it chalet? shall it shallot? shelly chalet?

[@Uncle_Houndy]

Thanks for the reminder, I shall 'couche sur mon chalet' for the evening 😴

[@StevenNess]

@@Uncle_Houndy avec Shelly in the chalet

[@mode7beats]

I’m such a fucking nerd I just changed my ringtone lol.

[@Fire-Toolz]

ryan radke

[@prestigious5s23]

The Gen Z music producers really are something special. What a bunch of cry babies. Your whinging about fred again using loops from splice, yet how about we take a look back at some of the greatest pieces of music ever created using samples. The Prodigy - No Good, one of the greatest electronic songs ever created, yet was almost created entirely with samples. Take the No Good drum loop, Liam literally just dropped one of the samples from the Mega Dance Jungle Rave CD, that's it. Just a little bit of chopping but liam had no problems using a sample as is if it was a good fit. You look hard enough you will find other tracks with the same sample being used. It might seem lazy using samples like that, but do the listeners really care, nope! I don't see it as a lack of creativity, creativity comes in all forms, whether be it layering full samples, chopping them and layering or creating beats from scratch. Who honestly cares if the song is good. Using samples regardless of origin, whether be it splice, Zero-G1 CDs, Megabass Cds, etc is all good IMO.

[@Weaverbeats]

I'm not gen z 😭

[@crnkmnky]

​@@Weaverbeats You've triggered so many age demographics with this one!

[@jonahblock]

@@prestigious5s23 isn’t Fred also gen z?

[@joeysaturday3420]

KEEP COPING all you words just add up to you telling the World about you lack of Talent British are such Weak Minded People

[@mycosys]

Why are Shure releasing a BeyerDynamic M90X clone made of miracles?

[@Sneakycat1971]

Fred Again seems suspicious in general. Seen a video of him making music at his house and he looked like an actor pretending to be a musician.

[@user82938]

Youngboy Never Free Again

[@mstrwood8813]

Make awesome music. That's the job of producer. However you do it, do it. I have a lot of go to's. Splice is definitely one of them but you still gotta mess with the loops and samples to get em right...Every time.

[@idontplayuk]

You think the average listener cares about splice loops lol its a popular song props to Fred for making a banger from a couple splice loops haha

[@DJSockmonkeyMusic]

I'm sorry you had to defend MGK Edit im not fucken doing it. Edit 2 I submitted stacked loops as my own work at uni (on time). In my defence, i was doing a double degree in audio production and computer science, and i was running short of time. Also, i offset drum loops to make it less obvious. And i only got 55% on the assignment.

[@user-zx5gg8od6l]

I love my androids for gaming/emulators. They suck in every other metric. You’ll never hear a poor android D rider say they also have an iPhone to compare to.

[@crnkmnky]

Android is simply _the lesser of two evils._ You trade performance for slightly more freedom and a wider range of form factors & pricing. The whole smartphone ecosystem is a disgrace. Expensive, fragile, unrepairable computers, where every aspect is designed to permanently tether users to a cloud services subscription.

[@wyattalexander4041]

Bruh everyone uses loops sent to their email TF cares if it’s from splice… only thing to be careful of is licensing of the samples.

[@Weaverbeats]

Yeah I use 4 splice loops (2 from the same pack) in a single beat all the time too!

[@wyattalexander4041]

“So much fun” by Yung thug has spice samples hardly altered on it… people just don’t keep the same energy on things. I work in music specially with rappers and producers and do I like it no… other people work hard and deserve it more. The conversation does deserve more nuance as unfortunately a lot of stupid people are on top and that is just what I see a lot, I’m used to it at this point. It’s all about getting the placement. People do that just in their emails so does using 4 samples on splice any different ? (People are just able to prove this) Not saying I would or you but at this point idc it’s what happening and will continue. But not everyone does that every time it is absolutely lazy yeah. Reminds me of when I see 6 dudes on one beat lol I just don’t care that is your decision to make at this point idc.

[@crnkmnky]

​@@wyattalexander4041 Using unverified samples received via email sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. I've heard stories… 🤑

[@mthomas1091]

Can the elephants in the room use Audius? Asking for a zookeeper.

[@_DRMR_]

Only a particular species of cryptobro.

[@aikighost]

As regards the use of splice loops by Fred Again, is the track any good? If so, who fucking cares? Oh yes butthurt unsuccessful music producers, and journos who want to report on something lame instead of writing something interesting. literally only them.

[@Weaverbeats]

I mean anyone can put 4 splice loops on top of each other and have it be good so that argument doesn't mean much. Would it make me not listen to his music? No. Do I think it is funny? Yes

[@aikighost]

@@Weaverbeats yep, like I said nobody really cares. If I cut the loops up a bit and recycle into a new groove but is sounds worse than just using the original loop is that better? Not to the people dancing :) I guess its similar to the people who go out and spend 4k on a moog voyager or a big modular setup and cant make something people love complaining about the kids with a free copy of ableton lite and Vital cranking out bangers. Just sour grapes IMHO.

[@stereokuuji]

​@@aikighost case by case Afrojack's pretty successful

[@offline6974]

Fred Again have accepted that he is a bubblegum. Get that $$ before people want a new flavor.

[@aikighost]

@@stereokuuji he should probably wind his neck in then instead of trying to gatekeep how people are allowed to make music.... wasn't too long ago that music snobs didn't count electronic music of any kind as "real music" as they werent playing "real instruments" How short peoples memories are.

[@MetiriPersonal]

It’s ridiculous that channels like demolition ranch exist but rappers are getting got for having pistols. Absolute insanity

[@JethroDAvis024]

@MetiriPersonal thr major difference is one is a felon and can't legally own firearms. Demolition Ranch is clearly not a felon, and therefore can own guns...alot of them.

[@crnkmnky]

​@@JethroDAvis024 Fair point, lol! But if gun rights are so vital, should there be an expiration date on these restrictions? (Obviously not for _violent_ felons, or people like YoungBoy, who can't stop violating their probation.)

[@dooshnukem32]

0:56 hello?

[@Weaverbeats]

Editing error that I'm not sure how it happened. Gonna cut it out lol

[@dooshnukem32]

@@Weaverbeats fair enough lol

[@ilikespacedinosaurs]

Pump, pump pump it up and make it fizz :^)

[@crnkmnky]

🧐 is this a 🍆 joke?