From Darkness to Light: One Woman's Journey out of the Occult, with Jac Marino

Jac Marino tells her story of being seduced into the occult, initiated into the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, and ultimately saved by Jesus out of witchcraft. Watch her powerful story...
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[@chovey7993]

“As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today.” Genesis 50:20

[@staceywilson3967]

I so appreciate your candid commentary on how the occult led you astray, particularly in how white and dark magic are both evil. Praise Jesus that He pulled you into His good, true, and perfect light.

[@giovanna_IAM]

White magic is not evil. God gave us powers to heal, and do ALL THINGS that Christ did, and Yeshua (Jesus) makes that clear that we can do the things he did. Without Moses story being told in the Bible he’d just have been doing magic, just as Pharoh said when he denied the signs from the Most High. Imagine a guy with a staff like a wizard bringing natural distasters and plague. Also Using the herbs that God allowed to be grown for us instead of harmful OTC drugs, performing love healing and body healings through energy work this has been done for millions of years (probably billions since the oldest mortar and Pestle is 4 billion years old declassified by the CIA) it’s got to stop to be demonizing the Power of God within us. Also remember that the Christ is within us, and not the body of Jesus being worshipped on the Cross. Bod bless you. And open your heart and mind to the truths of the Universal Supreme God, the Most High, you sent us his only Son to show us spiritual awakening and Baptism AKA Purification , and to show us that wickedness is in the ones that judge and persecute others

[@cosmicrest5394]

Jac Marino, "May the Lord bless you and keep you; The Lord make His face shine upon you, And be gracious to you; The Lord lift up His countenance upon you, And give you peace.”

[@evierice2230]

AMEN!!!

[@ashleydiaz7034]

Amen

[@gimmebeso]

Amen

[@wyldflwr]

❤ Amen ⚘

[@missambersymone3543]

Amen ❤️

[@karenmazzu]

When I became a Christian after being in the occult for years, the unfortunate thing I noticed is that the Christians who were my age who I "looked up to" spiritually because they had been walking with the Lord for so long at that point, it is very hard for them to hear or listen to when I say something they are reading or interested in "seems fishy". I felt just completely ignored and unheard whenever i would mention anything, as if i had no credibility, most of the time. Maybe some of that was my fault for not speaking up loudly enough about things, but... Seriously... We need to be willing to listen to one another with a greater desire for truth than these compelling seductive things. We need to love the truth. We need to love Jesus and each other... And when that's not happening, pray.

[@jamiegrieve5875]

I have heard what you said here and I have had the same thing with my life and some people who I was in the same church with and I was going through a counselling session with and one of them was a great guy who was a mature Christian and he worked for a healing ministry and he did deliverance ministry and he had a very good insight and discernment however the lady who was with him in each meeting with them she was so negative about everything and her husband who was not in the meetings but in the other groups in church they always seemed to make me feel worse about everything I was doing or saying. I must admit that I have never been as hurt or as let down by Christians than anyone else in my life and although it affected me it actually made me closer to the lord and gave me a good understanding about the dynamics in church politics and leadership than ever before! Yes it is good to have fellowship but we need to get our roots and our hearts on Jesus and not in a church because at the end of the day we are the church not a building!

[@gazster]

i noticed last year and more this year of the from new age spirituality to christian testimonies, i couldn't believe it as there's former lightworker's, spiritualists, ghost hunter's, shaman, starseed's etc.. doing testimonies. i can remember asking a spiritual youtuber about this and she said about the responsibility and shadow inner work needing to be done, but if you notice alot of the spiritual channel's were making alot of money last year and people were paying 100's to the top channel's for deeper reading's, it does seem like a business tactic the way it's designed and packaged to draw people in with talk like new energies for october, big changes and your twinflame is coming lol i've heard that before and people will pay more deeper reading's and hit rock bottom eventually like they talk about in the testimony videos. it's quite interesting observering this.

[@karenmazzu]

@@gazster Jesus is unstoppable

[@Caderic]

"I felt just completely ignored and unheard..." It's NOT you. Satin is the great deceiver. He does whatever he can to distract. He doesn't have to convert, but only distract.

[@shirleycolopy4322]

Karen, I totally understand. I was having demonic dreams/ attacks when I first was saved many years ago and when I asked my pastor about what to do- he told me to stop eating so much pizza before bed…🤦🏻‍♀️. It’s called discernment- when you can sense something is off… people don’t like to be even kindly confronted sometimes unfortunately… tell them once of your concern and let the Holy Spirit do the rest…

[@patsylynn2]

In 1981,after many years of reading New Age etc. which I now believe is also occult, I was so confused that I cried out to God. Crying, I told Him that I didn't know what to do. Jesus spoke to me these 3 words very clearly, "Read your Bible". It's been a long and winding road. Now I am 71 and still following Jesus more than ever. Thank you, Jan, for sharing your story with Alisa. I pray it will help anyone who will listen, that they will turn their life over to Jesus.

[@emilyp3150]

“In Christ are all the mysteries” I love this

[@tuppence144]

I believe God answers the prayers of PRAYING parents and grand parents to bring the lost sheep to Him. Praise God for her Grandpa who came to visit her.

[@gayleperry]

Amen!!

[@ms.charlotte4027]

HalleluYah! My mother's prayers saved me when I was lost! I finally surrendered my life to The Most High God through Jesus Christ two years ago! I am so thankful that my mother never stopped praying for me. Never give up on your children--prayer works!!

[@thefamily730]

YES, Amen!

[@Gissel783]

iyy

[@MissMolly3377]

My moms prayers saved me.

[@truthdiggershow]

Amazing testimony! Thank you. I am an ex Mormon, ex religion from India, ex reiki practitioner, ex toxic relationship, suicedle survivor and more. Until I had an Encounter with God in my house. His mercy, and love for us is beyond our human comprehension!

[@annawright503]

I’m so grateful to God for putting this on my KZbin feed. I have been seriously considering doing a psychedelic mushroom trip with some friends who rave about how beautiful and beneficial the experience is for self growth. God has been putting on my heart that wisdom come through him and only his word, yet I believe Satan has been deceiving me that I can somehow find out more and get closer to God through psychedelic mushrooms. This video came at the perfect time to warn me that this is deception and I won’t get satisfaction from anything but Christ.

[@teresarenee3829]

Don't do it...you will be attacked...

[@elevatedsoulsyndicate9754]

Yes! Try micro-dosing the mushrooms. Very beneficial and healing 💜 It legal for use in a few states in US

[@BethyMarks135]

God grew the psychedelic mushrooms just like he did marijuana. He literally created everything.

[@BethyMarks135]

I forgot to add psychedelic mushrooms can actually create new brain paths and help with certain mental illnesses. It’s not Satan, it’s misinformation. Psychedelic mushrooms are natural.

[@michaeldstern]

Don’t do it. And yeah he may grew the magic mushrooms, as the other comment says, but there are also poisonous berries on the earth… should you eat those too?

[@BFNLEO]

This video started playing randomly for me. I’ve never been to your channel but I really needed to hear this. Thank you for your thoughtful questions and allowing her to speak. I am shocked at how similar my story is to hers. This is a topic that needs to be heard by many of my peers. It’s easy to get lost out here.

[@jjbentley9]

Well holy molly baby Jesus.

[@Tristan-om2ff]

That happened yo me too!! I came across this wonderful Woman perchance. Very healing and illuminating and enlightening. Jesus saves us

[@Tristan-om2ff]

@@jjbentley9 Amen dude

[@OneEyedJack1970]

God works in mysterious ways.

[@danielmace4946]

TrueC, What seemed random to you was actually not random at all. Somewhere in your life there were probably people or loved ones praying for you. The older I get (65) I have come to believe there are no coincidences. God Bless you!

[@mrscp04]

"I wasn't even falling for a new lie." How easy it is for the enemy.

[@judyswiderski2682]

@Living Soul Human is a relatively new term. It is man or mankind. Blessings.

[@iampostal]

@Ka Pow id be even more afraid of a cult that would have me eat fkesh and drink blood of a dead jewish carpenter..gross yuck!

[@siriusthecat]

@Ka Pow Maybe we could simply not cosplay cannibalism, just brainstorming lol

[@mrniceshoes2118]

Reminds how many new lies people are fallen for today like politics for example

[@iampostal]

just say satan..the enemy(sic)..oh remind me how being an all loving god means allowing the most evil thing ever to roam freely...satan his name is satan..dont worry he doesnt exist either

[@onlyJESUS7CHRIST8saves]

Everyone should familiarize themselves with John Ramirez's testimony as well. Thank you for sharing your wonderful testimony of God's goodness. It is not God's will that any should perish but come to the knowledge of the Truth that is found in Jesus Christ of Nazareth alone. New Age teaching and the presentation of false Jesus Christs (where people make him in their own image) is a major problem in church, especially in the last days. This witchcraft has infested most churches today! Just as people are recognized by their fruit, so are churches. 2 Peter 2, 2 Timothy 3-4, and Matthew 24 are excellent references, to name a few... Just as bars and clubs are Satan's playgrounds for adults, Disney has been Satan's playground for kids for a long time. I am not saying everything from Disney is demonic, but we need the discernment of the Holy Spirit to know the difference between what God says is good & acceptable and what is evil & sinful. Also, I make no apology in saying that Harry Potter is demonic and of the Devil. Television has desensitized us to all sorts of evil things, so we need the discernment Jesus Christ provides us so badly these days!

[@gma904]

His testimony scares me. It encourages me to say my prayers for sure!

[@ms.charlotte4027]

ALL of Disney is occultism, and has so many Christians fooled. My family and I were fooled, and I was raised in a strong Christian home. My family and I have gone to Disney World (Magic Kingdom/Epcot) over 15 times (during the 70's and 80's when it was cheaper). I didn't wake up to the Occultic allusion of Disney until 2019, and I then shared what I discovered with my family. They realized that they too were deceived all of these years. We broke the bond with Disney immediately.

[@onlyJESUS7CHRIST8saves]

@@ms.charlotte4027 We all as followers of Jesus Christ need to strive after the eternal things of God, seeking first His kingdom and His righteousness, and laying up our treasures in Heaven instead of the fleeting world things that so many people lust/obsess over. We need to invest in ministries that are truly building up God's Kingdom. There are so many hurting people throughout the world, and if we as wealthy 'Christians' do not love on them, blessing them richly with the measure God has blessed, then no one will!

[@ms.charlotte4027]

@@onlyJESUS7CHRIST8saves I agree 100%.

[@torismith6872]

I was thinking the same thing. That brother is on 🔥 in the Lord. Sold out to Jesus to the same extreme as he was sorcery. Praise the Lord he is calling people out of witchcraft and sorcery and using these brothers and sisters to come straight for the head of this snake.

[@thirsty_dog_4_god484]

Satan is pretty and intelligent as the Bible describes him. He knows how to deceive even the elect. That is why it’s important to read God’s word everyday and study every word. Our hearts cannot lead us in truth, we need to rely on God’s word to discern right and wrong. So we don’t get misled by pretty glittery things that make us feel okay about ourselves. The occult and new age entice us by allowing us the permissions to give into our flesh. This is the opposite of what God wants. God wants us to live through the spirit.

[@knowfeedleadthesheep2285]

How to be persistent.Same vigour allways 24 hours 365 days till last breath

[@starlingswallow]

Amen!!

[@scotthoenig8953]

Amen. I was involved in the church of Thelema: Aleister Crowley. I was spiritually corrupted for years in this falsehood. Jesus took me out of this and set my feet upon the Rock of Ages. I was living in the enemies camp and believed that I was on the path of knowledge. I was so wrong and so deceived. I was abusing alcohol and opiates. In the end it was not Crowley... It was the devil who had me in his grasp. I was blind and Christ gave me back my true vision. Praise Jesus for His mercy and His true forgiveness. I leave you with a warning: Stay away from the occult. Walk in the Holy Spirit and stay in the good Grace of God. God Bless you and keep you.

[@Ephesians5-14]

That's amazing 💗 I would love to hear your whole testimony on Spirit Answers Podcast! You can reach out to him right here on KZbin. Thelema is so seductive. I used to have a friend who was a Thelemite and he was basically insane. I had to cut ties with him totally when I became a Christian. So glad Jesus got a hold of you!!

[@robertnutting4123]

Allister Crowley was like an evil child of Satan. I hope he likes Hell.

[@robertnutting4123]

Good testimony. I am saved also from great darkness.

[@StandUp777]

Praise Jesus! There is no pit too deep, nor any darkness or sin that He cannot overcome! When He said He came to set captives free, He meant it!

[@AleisterCrowley.]

Before Jesus and Christianity people like you and me lived for tens of thousands of years. What did they do for salvation, or was it just not an option for them?

[@judithhetherington6029]

Childhood sexual abuse, breaks spiritual boundaries that protect children. I believe this is one form of abuse that leaves children so vulnerable to spiritual entities. I believe Jesus’ words about “whoever harms one of these little ones……..it would be better that a millstone be tied to his neck & he flung into the sea” gives an idea that Jesus knew just how precious a child’s innocence is.

[@Vwink1528]

As someone who was abused by a family member which I still have never told my parents after 30 years, I feel a little more special that I was able to maintain a relationship with Christ. Even if at times it waivered, I still have Him. The family member has struggled with divorce and relationships his entire life and I believe it has much to do with this.

[@luckyduckydaisyflower2344]

I think you are right why else would Satan want this to happen why. You are smart

[@luckyduckydaisyflower2344]

@@Vwink1528 Jesus heal my brother amen

[@shea5542]

Why would God stop protecting a little kid spiritually cause someone else hurt THEM? that doesn’t make any sense to me.

[@luckyduckydaisyflower2344]

@@shea5542 sometimes i have been very angry at God. I don't understand this life but I see much of this good and evil

[@doug_peterson]

Great interview. So many parallels with hyper charasmatic movement. Seeking power, hysterical laughing, mini Christ theology. So thankful that God has pulled you out of this and allowed your life to shine as one of His trophies of Grace

[@belleales702]

Similar to new age

[@nicatlaca]

Well said❣

[@Tristan-om2ff]

There can be no trophies in Christianity. Beware of the words. Metaphors can inhibit the holy spirit as poor actors on the stage. Ref to: Plato's Cave. Amen

[@doug_peterson]

@@Tristan-om2ff I didn't say she would get a trophy or anything about a trophy in heaven. Please re read what I said. Her life is as a trophy of Grace meaning it was only by God's grace that her life is shining as a victory. I'm simply staying that all of us who have been delivered by God's Grace are reflecting how HE won the battle in our lives over sin and death Also Metaphors are commonly used in the bible. I dont think metaphors can inhibit the holy spirit as poor actors on the stage unless they are incorrect metaphors God bless

[@margueritewilliams427]

I noticed that there are increasingly more books centered on witches, witchcraft and the supernatural targeting young kids and teens.

[@freddhernanadez2230]

Yes unfortunately.

[@kellykirkpatrick5325]

KZbin videos! There's a whole movement going on out there pulling young people into the dark using love and benevolence to lure them in very dicey choppy Waters out there and the poor kids have no idea what roads are going down

[@JeanetteHawkins]

Yes there is. I noticed that last year when I went to Barns & Noble to buy some books for my child and half or more of the books were about magic. We will be publishing our own books to fill the gap!

[@kellykirkpatrick5325]

Its a movement by design They will overtake us without firing a shot

[@rigavitch]

Check out Jeremiah cohen's KZbin!

[@NewCreationInChrist896]

Cartoons are conditioning children, it’s sad how some Christian parents are so desensitized to point they don’t realize it. They need maturing in their faith before they can help their children.🙏 Ephesians 6:18 “Pray in the Spirit at all times, with every kind of prayer and petition. To this end, stay alert with all perseverance in your prayers for all the saints”

[@tacofacefart]

Jesus is a homosexual feminist. Cartooons are just getting more Christian, not less.

[@NewCreationInChrist896]

@@tacofacefart Lord rebuke the enemy in Jesus name amen.

[@tacofacefart]

I agree. I think the lord will rebuke the transphobes and antivaxxers first.

[@common9343]

@@tacofacefart Your parent must be very proud. Nonetheless, could you please explain how you arrive at your conclusions? Thank you.

[@tacofacefart]

@@common9343 Jesus told me.

[@sarannec1282]

This was an EXCELLENT interview. The interviewer is a good listener and knew all the right questions to ask. Thank you.

[@allisgrace1313]

As a former neo-pagan witch turned Christian, so much of her story resonants with me and my personal experience. Makes me reflect on how unoriginal Satan is...

[@jjbentley9]

Why would you go from being spiritual to being a fundamentalist literalist christian who follows dogmatic teachings. You progress backwards to dogma that's actually sad.

[@john146muaythai]

@@jjbentley9 Psalm 14:1

[@john146muaythai]

You believe a false gospel if you believe this video is the gospel

[@allisgrace1313]

@@jjbentley9 "Sad how many people well (sic) judge something they don't even know about..." Your words, sir.

[@allisgrace1313]

@@john146muaythai I do not believe this video is gospel, not sure how you would even get that idea.

[@jaquirox6579]

Near the end, you mentioned your hesitancy to talk about some of the mason stuff. Thank you for saying that, I was thinking about that the entire interview, about if I ever said anything from my past involvement in a large private organization similar to yours. They have a lot of worldly power, and swearing us to secrecy. And what they do to defectors…. It’s scary. You’re very brave to step out and go public about this. Your testimony is so fruitful for me to hear, because your entire life is very paralleled to mine. Thank you sister. ♥️🙏🏽♥️

[@shoespeak]

wow and you both have the same name i bet! lol

[@fergiefergie5759]

Freemasons are satanists/ Luciferian. Praise God , my brother got out of it, just waiting patiently for him to start revealing what he went through

[@jaquirox6579]

@@shoespeak I noticed that too! 😊♥️

[@jaquirox6579]

@@fergiefergie5759 He might not tell you anything, and that should be ok. He needs to properly process things, and that doesn’t always involve telling everyone everything. Just being loving and supportive, and pointing him to God, is what he needs from family and friends.

[@fergiefergie5759]

@@jaquirox6579 If course it’s okay if he kept quiet. I have been his shoulder to lean on while pointing him to Jesus. He has told me bits and pieces and will continue to be there for him in his journey of healing

[@danafennell6647]

I was a witch too before Christ saved me. I cried while watching this, my story is very similar. Christians, stay away from the enneagram and the word of faith movement. The truth of who you are is found in the Bible.

[@brandonluker3660]

"She turned me into a newt!....I got better"

[@jayheinz4624]

That's great Dana!! Jesus saved you and set you free!!🙏☀️

[@felicityh.1947]

My pastor talked about the enneagram this weekend as being a great spiritual tool. I know his heart is right, but I don’t know about elevating it to that.

[@jayheinz4624]

@@felicityh.1947 Felicity, the main thing is that you know that your heart is right.. when you put your trust and faith in Christ you were given a new heart and your old wicked heart is gone forever.. and you can follow your heart along with the truth of the word of God .. have you checked out Andrew Farley's new book the perfect heart?

[@mirandalancaster8968]

@@felicityh.1947 I've heard pastors do this but the thing that I understand now is that it can't help because it takes away from denying self and dieing to self and allowing God to change you. It focuses on self and understanding self when we are to change out side of self and become like God. We are like God because our brain in the power of our body. And God is power. It's not our body that is like God but out mind. That's why the law of attraction is so attractive because we can think something and it will happen. That's why we have to change out mind to be like Christ and our helmet is the helmet of salvation and we have to work out out own salvation in out minds. It's so beautiful but it gets misinterpreted through going outside of who God is to find God. You won't find God you will find god of this world (which is the spirit of the world and not the actual world) (Satan)

[@HvaljenIsus]

This was amazing! Seeing God´s grace in the deepest darkness. She cried "Jesus save me" and he saves with the deepest love and mercy. Thank you both!!

[@Tristan-om2ff]

Thank you also from me

[@_Smarf_]

It's almost like you were already converted and she was preaching to the converted, so there was no counter argument made, no dissention allowed. How brave of you to come here and have your biases reinforced by a group of fellow crazy cultists. 🤔

[@HvaljenIsus]

@@_Smarf_ The topic is not a discussion about Christianity, but the Testimony of someone who has been in the Occult. If you want to see Debates about Christianity, then this channel has other numerous videos. Btw it is not very brave of you either to insult Christians anonymously :)

[@_Smarf_]

​@@HvaljenIsus 1st. we're both anonymous, so get off that high horse of yours. I'm not posting my personal information because I'm not a fool. 2nd. this video is about "crazy" people that were in religions that aren't christian, turning to christianity, on a super pro-christian channel that tries to feign some level objectivity. 3rd. You are butt hurt because what I said is true and you know it. You surround yourself with people that agree with you so you won't be challenged in anyway because christianity is a house of cards too easily blown over. 4th. Your "brave" passive aggressive shade is weak sauce. Very weak sauce. If you were planning on entering that sauce in the county fair, I would not recommend it. 🌶🌶🌶

[@HvaljenIsus]

@@_Smarf_ I am actually very engaged in regularly watching Videos by Atheists and debates between Christians and Atheists. Assuming things about people you don't know is the problem and anger is not solving it

[@OwnYourHealthiestLife]

“I loved my sin”… soooo much truth in this. It took me 49 years to break free of that mindset. What a blessing to hear you share and find this freedom so early. So proud of you! Praise God for His grace on your life.

[@Musicalowl12]

That’s so interesting about Disney. I think that’s definitely something that every parent should be prayerful about how to approach. My parents made it very clear to me that magic isn’t real and that true power comes from God. That truth was so ingrained in me that even though I watched Disney movies as a kid, I still find “real magic” and sorcery weird and evil. My parents ultimately framed it as “magic is fun to imagine, but it’s not meant as something to do in real life”.

[@littlebirdie2]

@Autumn Johnson My parents taught the same. It seemed inherent in the ‘50s Christian raised parents to explain it that way & worked well for most everyone I grew up with. There is reality and there is fantasy. A concept obviously confusing to some people today. It seems that the society of 1950’s America based on the Christian belief & social system of that time was pervasive and accepted in the Christian values taught to children not only for the sake of the individual, but for a better social structure. Since the ‘60s it seems to me people are confused on the difference of reality & fantasy, which I contribute mainly to the loss of ‘certainty’ & knowledge of God’s Word, which gives one a much stronger set of values & foundation for their own lives & that of society. Just my observation & probably poorly put forward! I really enjoyed this interview & discussion. Thank you for all your time & effort in creating this vid for people to ponder & learn from!

[@susandalzell8871]

Walt Disney was a 33rd degree Mason. there is a youtube video called the Disney deception very informing.

[@writingryan301]

The question that has always come to my mind is: "Why on earth would we want to imagine a world where God is not?" I think that's a warning sign right there and just a brick in the spiritual maze that Satan leads us into and away from God even though we might have a distant view of the light and even think we are heading there, when in fact we're going nowhere or even in the opposite direction.

[@beccagumm1112]

Same, my parents were clear about magic. They actually told us that it WAS real and used Disney and other stories to help us learn the difference between the power of God and the perverse counterfeit.

[@MSBowen-pk6ww]

The thing is that magic is evil and it is real there are real witches but people act like there aren't. If Witches weren't real and the list of the types of stuff they go thru in the Bible then why would the Bible bring it up? I dunno why people think it's ok to imagine it. NOPE! It's not harmless. I was taught that for a long time as an artist it was ok for me to write about magic etc and to draw it and that it was harmless fun and fantasy. But it's not fantasy or fun or good! It's real!

[@wendypratt6837]

Praise God for being so faithful and drawing this young lady back to Him. Jesus is the only way!

[@cashwillis841]

Jesus is the only way- John 14:6 but this lady and this channel promotes a false gospel. The true gospel is a proclamation of who Jesus is and what He did for His elect only.

[@Strongtower]

@@cashwillis841 who's the elect? Jesus told us to spread the Gospel to the ends of the earth. Sounds like you are the one with a false gospel. Jesus was the sacrifice for our sin and ALL who believe in him, will have eternal life. John 3:16 says who ever and not an elect people.

[@cashwillis841]

@@Strongtower You believe a false gospel. Instead of twisting verses like John 3:16 why dont you read the whole book of John to get the context?

[@carolinjane54]

Thank you for sharing this testimony. It has addressed some of the concerns I have had about the direction Disney has taken and also the HP craze.

[@bwc6520]

@@cashwillis841 I'm not going to get into a three hour long discussion with you, I've been down that road, but your belief in determinism and all that goes with it is so un Biblical, and don't give me "you don't understand Calvinism", I understand it better than you. And no, I an not an Arminian. Good day.

[@aaronwolf4211]

Wow this is the first time I’ve heard anyone from the Crowleyan school of the occult give a testimony. There’s not many of us who come out of that darkness.

[@mb8219]

PRAISE be to God that you are ..He is good and FAITHFUL 🙌🙏💛

[@HeyTripleJ]

Amen praise the Lord He is the deliverer!! I’m so happy to read this

[@smokyquartz5817]

😂

[@kkb892]

Wow. God has a purpose for this testimony. She didn’t go through this for nothing. I love you both. I am so honored to be in this community of believers.

[@smokyquartz5817]

You know this is fake right? There are other interviews where she says this verbatim. There are dozens of fake interviews online.

[@ashertoh7097]

Looking at the looks of Alisa gives me the impression of a person of compassion, sympathy, patience and understanding. She listens.

[@gracemohan5225]

Amen 🙏❤️

[@freddhernanadez2230]

A TRUE woman of God-which is a rarity now a days.

[@ashleekay9705]

Almost exactly like my story except I was in foster care when I was exposed to Jesus., I also developed the Jezebel spirit from sexual abuse around 6 years old and she tormented me for years...I'm now a born again Christian for the last 2 1/2 years, and I'm on fire for the Lord. My calling is similar to yours and to get the lukewarm Christians and new age back to Christ. ❤🙏 Amen

[@smokyquartz5817]

Oh sweetie calling yourself the Jezebel spirit (which is a lie) after being abused is so unhealthy. I hope you're ok and not getting more bad treatment.

[@jamesmandahl444]

@smokyquartz5817 The occult is truly wicked. Get away from it. Dont discourage this young lady. Some of this abuse is spiritually damaging and demonic. Also posting a snarky sweety and then posting sanctimonious nonsense doesnt help. I have fallen into this kind of pride myself and it is spiritually dark and blinds us.

[@jeffrohm776]

Great interview. Jac is so on point. Christ-conciousness is soooooo dangerous because the new age folks like to use that as a wider inclusive way of looking at all of us.....but they won't shy away that it is completely opposite from the Christ of Scripture. This is why spending time in scripture, being in community and always asking questions of discernment is critical!

[@JacMarinoChen]

So true about Christ consciousness and the importance of devoting ourselves to Scripture and being in fellowship. Defining terms is extremely important. I said I believed in Jesus for most of my life, but my idea of Jesus was so far away from the true Jesus revealed in Scripture. Thank you for the encouragement, Jeff!

[@Gashd820]

Amen!

[@melodysledgister2468]

@Darren: You are born again, so why the hood?

[@MrMONS-iu1tw]

Yea man I was playing with astral projection. And other thing because I came into contact with a grey/nephilim/fallen entity. One of them things. Then after that I was havin sleep paralysis for 2.5 years straight and I was trying to kill myself with xaxan an pain pills. 15 overdoses blown up over seas. Motorcycle accident 87 mph. And I am fine walking running it's so crazy God kept me around for something. God bless bro

[@MrMONS-iu1tw]

I'm a veteran and it helped with head Injuries.

[@lynnv8501]

I thank God for saving this woman, and hope she is healed from the abuse and injustice she endured. No doubt her story will help others caught up in the chains which bind them.

[@DandyDuh]

Amen❣️❣️❣️❣️

[@melissa7777]

They were the demons who accessed her when she was traumatised, as a innocent child so sad. The enemy is so evil.

[@diane235]

Yes, I thought the same thing.

[@Tristan-om2ff]

But here we have the holy spirit and Jesu

[@ReformedSooner24]

They put a LOT of effort into leading her astray. And what did they get? Nothing, lol. God saved her. And those demons couldn’t laugh, couldn’t gloat or revel in a dark victory. They lost, as a soul they had put so much effort into, one that probably to many would have appeared to be beyond saving, was won to the Kingdom. Praise God

[@luciparadise6781]

Equal opportunity EVIL

[@returnoftheromans6726]

They don't discriminate. Young or old. Pagan or Christian. Parent or child.

[@KS-xb3cg]

We all know on a deep level that the spiritual realm is real, and yet the “religious” approved churches have abandoned the spiritual realm of God, claiming that it doesn’t exist any more. That there may be angels under very special circumstances but most spiritual realm stuff is evil or pretend according to this theology. This leaves the children of God ignorant and defenseless against the spiritual realm and not knowing OUR authority or how to stand in the spiritual realm and how to recognize forces of darkness.

[@chelseam754]

Amen!! The only reason I turned to the new age was because my church couldn't explain or didn't believe the things I was experiencing

[@victoriaann4762]

Great point! Knowledge is power.

[@TriciaRP]

No we don't know..I had no idea about a spiritual realm. None...I was brutally attacked and sifted....I was deceived and was isolated.... Just awful backwards and lost everything anointing no one came to help

[@cooljams_jams]

For as many folks who’d get angry at your grandpa for being so blunt, it’s beautiful how God draws our souls to him when the Gospel is plainly vocalized.

[@PeculiarPeople84]

There is a way set befor me that seems right but leads to death. That's how "feeling good" can be bad. Don't trust feelings , trust the LORD

[@cJroma316]

Amen!

[@melodysledgister2468]

Amen!

[@jacksonoie4532]

Amen!

[@freddhernanadez2230]

Proverbs 14: 12 Amen!

[@calummacritchie7840]

May God protect us from deception of our spirits.

[@calummacritchie7840]

@Miss M when I said 'our' I meant everyone watching this. I didn't mean anything demonic

[@LouisaWatt]

My own experience leaving witchcraft was brutal. Asides from the spiritual melee that ensued which was shocking but 100% handled by the Holy Spirit, the pagan community HATES Christianity and anyone who declares Jesus. I still get the occasional threat of curses (once again, God’s not bothered so neither am I) and there’s content on SM calling me delusional, rude, intolerant and stupid. Nobody chooses this without a huge reason and the undeniable nature of God. She’s brave and I’m in her corner 👏🏻💚

[@kerodelkigh]

Wow sister I had a similar experience

[@gillianstewart8442]

My friend was also delivered from witchcraft and like you was subject to awful abuse and was pursued by satanists. The Lord protected her but it was a process of deliverance that really affected her in every aspect of her life for years.

[@pamle1]

It sounds like you have an addictive personality; "latching onto things"... "clingy." Christianity is drowning in the occult, as it was born right out of Egyptian mythology and sun worship. Jesus ("the son" .. "the light of the world") is an allegory for Horus ("the sun" .. "the light of the world"). The word Amen comes directly from the Egyptian invocation "Amon-Ra" (To the God Ra). The word Israel is a reference to the Egypian/Phonecian deities "Isis-Ra-El." EL is the god of Saturn, or in other words: Satan. The Sun cults warred with the Saturn cults for many centuries. That's why Jesus (Solar) is insulted in the Talmud (Saturnian). What could be more occultic than Christianity?

[@gillianstewart8442]

@@pamle1 spoken like a true satanist.

[@bulbaman1]

@@pamle1 I would like to recommend you check out InspiringPhilsophy's video on the Jesus vs. Horus debate. The word "Amen" is also not linked to Amon, it's linked to a Hebrew word often translated as faithfulness or truth, "Emet."

[@mrslorenahernandez3891]

I had that same experience, where I felt my soul "falling" in the darkness, and I shouted "God please, get me out of this hell!!!!!" And I actually felt my soul being sucked out of the darkness into the light. I've been living with God in my heart since then

[@melanieshields8]

So need this! 😢

[@mimiboss9195]

Jac's humility is a true sign of her allegiance to Christ. Praying protection over her as she continues to share her salvation story. Thanks Alisa for an intriguing interview.

[@sarahborders2348]

I too got sucked into new age and the occult as a Christian by reading The Secret. That book was like a gateway drug. I so appreciate your story and powerful testimony Jac!

[@lzcrazyzl6443]

@@louleeo7789 tell me what the huge deception is? Im curious about what you know.

[@iamanele]

I too started off with The Secret in 2017 and it took me down a rabbit's hole. I am grateful God took ne out of it last year abd I got delivered of depression.

[@MysticOceanDollies]

What is The Secret? Does it have things about witchcraft?

[@cord11ful]

@@MysticOceanDollies It's the 'new age' bunk about how we literally create reality with our thoughts & intentions. It's the re-packaged lie of Satan in the Garden of Eden that we are God.

[@paulfalzon4576]

Yes, lots of love for the new age people. God bless them, I was there once - no judgement from me. Jesus is far better - take the Pepsi challenge and give your life to Jesus for a month! Taste and see the goodness of the Lord.

[@quinner8566]

Testimonials like this truly show regardless of how spiritually filthy the person gets he or she is never too far beyond God's reach. Our God is sovereign and He will not lose one of His children to evil.

[@jabezpartners4460]

Very true, our God is loving

[@mb8219]

Amen 🙏💗

[@quinner8566]

@@leahcimnaerc9543 but yet Jesus was fit to state the father of the Pharisees was the devil. I couldn't disagree with you more. If you're not born again you're not a child of God.

[@DavidMccallister65]

AMEN! HE'LL LEAVE THE 99 TO GO FIND THE 1!

[@littlebirdie2]

@Leahcim naerc Definitely he looses some, but not from leaving them... The ones he loses are the ones that walk away from him. The whole point is that we have a choice, free will, to choose him or turn away. One can always turn back... thank God!

[@mayasews211]

SOOO grateful that Jac has this opportunity to share her incredible testimony! We have been blessed to be able to get to know her over the last year at our church and she is super sweet and talented (her singing voice is amazing)! Can't wait to see what God does through her story and life. ❤❤👏🏻👏🏻

[@brandonluker3660]

Yeah, Glad her testimony was heard. But not the testimonies of women who are survivors of Purity Culture. Who cares what they have to say.

[@arminius504]

🙌👏

[@aimeeb2820]

@@brandonluker3660 survivors of purity culture? I have heard of this but not in a negative way altho in a very warped way I may have grown up being taught to stay pure altho I rebeled as teens do which how the enemy continued to create chaos in my and my families life but now as a born again Christian I envy those who were truly thought purity but I suppose our enemy who comes to steal kill and destroy can worm his way in anywhere, if given a foot hold which means we all have testimonies eh What importance tho is how our Saviour has and is healing us thats important eh whether thats having kept us safe from evil or taken us out of it. So I thank you Jesus for your saving grace 🙌✝️🙌

[@ricardopenamcknight6407]

As a Christian mystic I found this really irksome to listen to, largely because of the mixing of various things under the same umbrella without any kind of discernment. Lumping things like the kabbalah... like... you know your Christian faith is partially rooted in the same traditions and transmission of knowledge that produced the works of kabbalah, yeah? Like... it goes hand in hand with the oral and written torah as part of what was passed down since the time of Moses and mt Sinai. There are meditations in the bible and in 1 Sammuel it even says "In those days the prophets were called seers". The prophet Sammuel (who was not far removed from Moses at all), was being called a seer and paid for his services. You say that god calls all magic an abomination based on your understanding of the English translation. It would be foolish to attempt to ban something with as broad a use as the term magic carries in today's world because many holy people would then be guilty of performing "magic". Instead what is forbidden is a list of Hebrew terms that we can partially identify as at least similar to what we understand when we use terms like diviner and one who works with familiars but... as we've established if you make all fortune telling a sin what becomes of the humble seer/prophet charging silver shekels for his prophecies? Between the prophets and the saints Judeo-Christianity has a rich tradition of meditation and mystical states that could rival any Hindu, Daoist or Buddhist tradition. You guys are sitting here with these smug attitudes like, "mhmm, yes and anyone who does these things is committing horrible sin," thus condemning a large portion of heaven's residents. I'll give you that Free Masons and Golden Dawn members kinda suck and that a lot of people who get into magic are doing it for self-centered egotistical reasons that are likely to do them more harm than good in the long run, but the subject is simply too complicated and too deep for you or anyone to simply hand wave it all away so as to throw out the proverbial baby with the bath water.

[@robertnutting4123]

My bloodline was in the council of 13 and were high up Druid priests. I was delivered directly by the Lord after He paralyzed me and stopped my heart from beating and spoke to me, "Get out of Black Magic or I will kill you." I agreed and God released me immediately and I became a Christian.

[@freddhernanadez2230]

Glory to God!!!!

[@robertnutting4123]

@@freddhernanadez2230 Amen. Praise God.

[@catherine9808]

The lord said he would kill you ??? That completely contradicts what Christ said he would never threaten like that

[@robertnutting4123]

@@catherine9808 you really don't know scripture. Ananias and Safira

[@xXEliminatorXx99]

@@catherine9808 We are talking about the God who destroyed Sodom & Gomorrha

[@suzanneflowers2230]

I so appreciate this young lady for sharing her life like this. Satan knows our vulnerabilities, but thank the Lord for grabbing Jac.

[@ferme814]

What a great testimony! Praise God for saving her life. My involvement in the occult was painful on so many levels. I can only describe it as soul shattering. I went from the occult to Catholicism and then right into the hyper Charismatic Movement, which in my experience, turned out to be demonic and full of lies. But thanks be to God for His mercy and for the grace I found in Jesus. God’s word and His Holy Spirit have washed me clean. Only Jesus Christ can set the captives free! 🙏♥️

[@mojisolaadekunle2016]

I praise and thank The Lord Jesus for His love, mercy, patience towards us. I rejoice with Jac for the salvation of her soul. I pray that she will be protected from every snare of the devil. I pray that she will hold fast to the very end. Amen.

[@Tristan-om2ff]

Amen to that. Just to say Catholicism is a way coming into knowing of Jesus, though the Holy spirit cannot be bound by denominations. Thus so

[@CandieTremblay]

What a great interview. I have had major concerns about the New Age practices seeping into the church. Also, Disney is absolutely evil. Last year when I woke up to all of this and began wholeheartedly pursuing Jesus, I actually felt completely revolted by these things that I was once entertained by and thought was harmless before. The kundalini spirit seems to have snuck into so many churches and tries to say it is the Holy Spirit. A fruit of the spirit is self control. Sometimes I see this stuff and wonder if these people will have severe whiplash the next day from what their bodies are doing. This last year I believe I have been delivered of so much through tears. I used to never cry, but I have had tears come so much as I pursued Jesus and felt so much lighter every time they came. Its not a hard cry, just tears and my heart softening. The Holy spirit isn't chaotic or distracting. Just things to keep in mind when in services...

[@rebeccaannan1]

Hi, what is the kundalini spirit? Thanks

[@firecarrier1]

@@rebeccaannan1 it's to do with hinduism/yoga, the serpent spirit coiled at the base of the spine and they encourage it to come up, tied in with opening the third eye (demonic)

[@rebeccaannan1]

@@firecarrier1 thanks for sharing, I thought I’d heard it before and wondered if it was something about yoga. Thanks 🙏

[@DavidMccallister65]

Amen and I'm so glad to hear your story but at the same time, I encourage you to remember and consider that God, Jesus and The Holy Spirit deal with each of the saints in their own way as we all are different and each have our own relationship with the LORD. Parents deal with each child in their own particular way according to that relationship and that child.

[@hailey5672]

In services we have to just compare what we see and hear to the word of God. I cry too when I become in awe of who Jesus is but the bible also says to dance for the Lord, shout unto God with a voice of triumph and praise, sing to Him, lift up holy hands, clap. These things should be normal even if they seem disruptive to some. And I've seen people experience God in a different way too but its also important not to judge a whole church if one person is doing something that may seem a little off. The church as a whole should follow the word of God

[@TheRoundandround]

"God hates all magic..." another only-human being purporting to know what God "hates"...unbelievable..."american" belief, after all...

[@VioletWaves44]

Right? This shit is ridiculous. Judgement, hatred and fear drive us away from our true calling. It's really sad seeing people condemning one another.

[@gregoryrita6737]

Witchcraft magic it’s all neutral it’s what you do with it that takes it to a dark place so don’t blame the magic it was you and those you were hanging with In the word occult literally means hidden

[@azluvryder744]

I was also abused in the same way and also saw things around the same ages. I've known Jesus my whole life, and it's crazy bc our lives are very parallel. I got into Wicca in high school and played with spirit boards and I was unwittingly allowing more attachments from all this. I started doing drugs and doing stupid things. Fast forward to my 30s, and I had started to wake up to everything in this world and began researching everything from the occult to political things, and began having sleep paralysis. It was happening almost every night until one night, about 3 months into it starting, I called out Jesus' name and immediately woke up. I forsake Him in my early 20s after losing my 1st baby, and that was the first time since that I had called on Him. Now I've learned that when I do any research into aliens(demons) I will have sleep paralysis. It's definitely all connected. I know that Jesus loves me and heard me even when I told Him I hated Him. I believe the abuse was the enemy's first tactic in his plan to destroy my faith and it happens all the time to so many of God's children. I think you're amazingly strong and it's awesome that your strength and early faith pulled you through. It's not easy, the road is narrow...... God Bless you ladies. Thank you for doing this, and standing up for Jesus and His love for us. 💜

[@freddhernanadez2230]

You said a mouthful. God bless you my sister in Christ.

[@Tristan-om2ff]

God Bless you* I love you also. (Ps Forsake is Simple Present tense, I know you mean FORSOOK. Which is the past tense in the past. The holyspirit will come to you again very soon

[@Tristan-om2ff]

Ps. My father was murdered when I was 5 and my mother died of and overdose on Christmas eve when I was 7. Someone was hitting her her bedroom. It was not easy for me. Jesus loves me and he loves you. He loves us all. His love overcomes all. The holy spirit has plans. Amen. Lets shout out Jesus. Life is a gift. I am so thankful for me mother and father forgiving me life. And to Jesus for saving me and for me being able to read about your suffering and learnt that the spirit has come to you. Be good Amen

[@Tristan-om2ff]

I am so sorry you lost you baby. Jesus knows more that we do. Anyway I am so sad. We must endure and livein Jesus name.

[@trs1562]

Did you see things just out of the blue. I thought you had to be purposefully seeking occult activity to be able to see it.

[@jeffrogers4251]

What a wonderful and enlightening conversation! I am surprised how Alisa is kind of tiptoeing around the HP stuff?! Some of my friends who have come out from under the spell of the books and movies now think it is clearly demonic no matter how mainstream it is. But...keep up the great work!

[@julianwalker9782]

I mean maybe not all Christians feel that way about HP

[@bekgeorge9672]

That’s utter nonsense

[@cJroma316]

@@julianwalker9782 Then that's unfortunate. As Christians we're called to walk in wisdom and turn away from worldliness and all things occultic, regardless of our feelings. We are to walk and be guided by the Spirit of Christ not our fleshly feelings, regarding these matters. Evil entities thrive on people allowing their feelings to govern them. God is very specific regarding the plight of those engaging and embracing magic, occultism, witchcraft, soccery, and divination in any form, including entertainment. Believe me there's a price to pay and it leads to undesired attachments.

[@Tristan-om2ff]

I agree with you. At the end of the day which is better the Bible's new testament or Harry Potter? I add rhetorically. As fot Harry Potter. Its a real detraction for the holy spirit

[@gardengirl694]

I tell you it was Oprah that started me down that dark path. Thankfully, one day I woke up.

[@jayheinz4624]

I understand what you're saying about Oprah!! I remember seeing several of her programs over the years about New age and that there's many ways to God and of course we know there's only one way to God and that is through Christ Jesus!

[@CanVultus]

Notice how you blame Oprah. Eve blamed the snake. Adam blamed Eve which in a sense he is blaming God for he is saying if God didn’t give him Eve he wouldn’t of ate it. It’s your own depraved nature that lead you down that path. Oprah is just the one you used to convince yourself to do it.

[@michellecollins290]

@@CanVultus wow you’re right, we’re always blaming someone else and that won’t sit well with our Lord, it never has.

[@awesomepossumstudios8976]

@@CanVultus remember what Jesus had to say about this “If anyone causes one of these little ones-those who believe in me-to stumble, it would be better for them if a large millstone were hung around their neck and they were thrown into the sea”. Yes we fall into sin, but this is spiritual warfare. We have an enemy.

[@CanVultus]

@@awesomepossumstudios8976 and where did I cause anyone to stumble? I merely pointed out how we tend to blame others instead of taking responsibility for our decisions.

[@tysonaudrey3019]

Wow the similarities are so so so identical to mine especially the feeling of my soul being sucked into darkness I experienced that exact same thing !!! Jesus is so very gracious 😭💜

[@freddhernanadez2230]

Glory to Jesu Christ!!!

[@suryatanya2413]

I have to say, I'm having a little difficulty with the way the interviewer listens and respons to her story. This girl is sharing her trauma so vulnerable, and the interviewer doesn't validate her pain nor her experiences, and just pushed her own narritive in her questions. I would have liked to see her hold more space for her trauma, especially since that is the beginning of everything.

[@TheRealestRAVEN]

Very insensitive and rude. The interview is so good but the girl is so full of Light shes not even touched by this lady’s negativity

[@Kensworld28]

This was a very interesting conversation, I’d totally read her biography

[@MysTarey]

The Charismatic Movement led me into the occult. I was very steeped in it until I had gone completely mentally insane. I cried out to God and asked for the truth because I was so confused. The Holy Spirit revealed to my heart that Jesus is the way, the truth, the life. I saw my wicked sin for the first time and was overcome with grief because of it. I praise my Savior for His patience with me and His gentleness to draw me to Himself. Life is still hard but I have so much peace that Jesus saved me from darkness and that I am never alone. 🙏🏻

[@MuMu-fu7qe]

Woo, praise God!!

[@lorenacomeau3377]

I have some family in the Charismatic Movement I am concerned about. I believe they are saved and just caught up in the power it promotes …. They appear to love the bible. At least they used to. They don’t believe Paul’s writings are gods words.

[@FromJosephtoJesus]

Rejoicing with you in your salvation by Christ Jesus, our loving Redeemer!

[@dorcaso1619]

@@lorenacomeau3377 They're in this so called Charismatic movement but hey don't believe that Paul's writings are God's words? that's so intersting hmm Very Interesting, I need some more explanation on what the Charismatic Movement does/believes in. Do you, by chance, have a link or a site on what those family members follow?

[@melodysledgister2468]

@E.M. D: Now get in the Bible! The Word of the Lord will enlighten you like nothing else.

[@tanyawersinger2693]

Very candid interview, recommend getting Father Chad Ripperger’s book,” Deliverance prayers for the use by laity “ There is a section towards the back, an appendix 1: list of sins, vices and spirits. And then in the very end appendix 3, prayers to break the freemasonic curse. God bless.

[@dorotahedge7772]

Devil copy everything!

[@aliveinchrist6102]

And yes BE CONCERNED ABOUT HARRY POTTER. Even if the magic in it is fake and not based on “real” magic its still the alure of power. Its lead many into the occult including myself. It just feeds the fantasies

[@FromJosephtoJesus]

Thank you, Alisa and Jac for this needed conversation. Hearing Jac’s experience in the Occult, I could not but draw parallels with my background in Mormonism, as it is really under the umbrella of Spiritism. LDS temple ceremonies are based in Freemasonry, the theology emphasizes spiritual experiences trumping the biblical truth and authority, and in all of the wrong paths, we will always see a never ending requirement for works for self-evolvement.

[@elizabethbittala2779]

Love your handle!

[@FromJosephtoJesus]

@@elizabethbittala2779 Thank you, Elizabeth. Please, feel free to visit my channel. I do outreach to the LDS by contrasting Joseph Smith’s teachings with the standard of the biblical text.

[@How.To.Get.Saved.]

Amen to that. Praise the Lord for opening your eyes as well. I'm also an ex-Mormon, now a Christian, and have just brought up your channel. Thanks for sharing this. I pray the Lord exposes the lies of Mormonism to increasing masses of Mormons.

[@someowens8569]

I appreciate your thoughts -- things I had not considered in this light -- from someone who is also an ex-mormon. I am now non- / inter- denominational Christ follower. My sufficiency is in Christ alone.

[@FromJosephtoJesus]

@@someowens8569 Praising the Lord Jesus for your salvation also!!✝️❤️ When did you leave?

[@stephaniestclair9289]

This is the first time I have ever listened to this channel…but here are my thoughts …here is a young lady ..she’s very intelligent and very articulate..who has ran the gambit of the enemy’s deceptive devices who is now flipping the glamour off the face of new age “ knowledge” seeking for God’s glory. I absolutely love testimonials like this.

[@SoaringRedEagle]

Oh...? I taken LSD, mushrooms, and weed all at once.. I fell better and happy. I was suicidal, and angary till I did this. I gone to the other side.. Love!!!🥰🥰🥰 Anyway after my experience, I feel Jesus is here and real. It changed my life and soul. 😇😇😇 I knew Occults is crap!! Even some Churches and Pastors are crap!!!

[@shannonstuhan899]

I appreciate the beauty of this Interview, and there are parts of this that are bothering for me. The realms of control and abuse in the church can be just as volatile and dangerous. My mom was abused by a "teacher" in the Catholic church who was "following" the bible and hit her hands bloody with a ruler for being a "child of the devil" for being left handed. There can be spiritual abuse and issues like this in ANY person, no matter what religion they claim to follow. Discernment is needed, and questioning what people are pushing on us as beliefs through shame,judgement,control, and guilt is crucial.

[@rhondauribe-lands2832]

Well duh I mean it should be obvious If someone is doing things they shouldn’t be such as abuse & than using religion as a cover. That’s just a bad person period under the guise of using religion to do their evil acts. I’m sorry but it still amazes me how people cannot differentiate these things. Of course when you’re young you may be confused but on some core level you realize something isn’t right & when you’re old enough you can realize it wasn’t religion it was just the person. I’ve never read in the Bible to be beaten in the name Of God. From what I read in second testament it’s about forgiveness & showing love. People are the ones who twist gods word to suit their own agenda.

[@janehernandez4275]

Excellent interview. So grateful for Jac's humility and honesty in sharing her amazing story. Her great love for the Lord pours out. I pray that many are pulled out of the pit with opened eyes and saved through her story in the name of Jesus.

[@lizj3815]

GREAT interview! You’re testimony is so amazing and I praise our Lord for your salvation!

[@iahmarielle]

wow. no other words from me, just wow. Praise Jesus. He alone truly saves!!!

[@Tristan-om2ff]

Amen to that

[@judiththoren6176]

I don't like women's conferences. Those I have attended are superficial, plastic people pretending. I study on my own.

[@gabriellagrace4734]

I totally agree, that’s been my experience as well. Actually same with many churches.

[@jamieanaya5523]

My family is currently in a church where they encourage using the enneagram. I looked into it and it red flagged me immediately. I tried sharing with them but was rejected. I clicked on this podcast just to listen, had no clue she speaks on the enneagram. God always finds a way to lead me to His truth ❤️❤️

[@pollackmorgan3149]

Hello how are you doing😎😎😎

[@shesmoonlight514]

ALISA 👏🏼WE👏🏼 NEED 👏🏼MORE👏🏼 CONTENT LIKE 👏🏼THIS 👏🏼THIS WAS AMAZING

[@susangeer1]

I've always had an uneasy feeling about Harry Potter but most everyone told me it's not a problem. It's interesting to hear Jac's take on it.

[@samanthaspeaks4206]

My aunt was wiccan over a decade, Harry Potter definitely is satanic and desensitizing! They use stones and spell conjuring, it's legitimately of satan. I wish it wasn't but it very much is

[@orangeblossom9279]

It has real spells in it. Teen Vogue is teaching kids how to use those spells

[@lynnv8501]

If a person is set up for the experience H Potter could give them then yes, it can be a problem. For me H Potter bounced off of me with no affect. It's like how some people are set up for or have a propensity to abuse alcohol, and others can have a drink every once in awhile and it does not become a sin issue.

[@christychapin8357]

Eh. It’s like when Paul talks about some things being okay for some and not for others. Some people can be in a bar without a problem, whereas it’d be a sin for someone else. Some people can read fiction and not make it into a key part of their identity and beliefs. Some people can’t watch silly reality shows bc they get too pulled into the world, etc. Each of us has something that is forbidden or bad for us but not for others, depending on our own personal sin natures.

[@csmoviles]

@@christychapin8357 but it probably would be altogether wiser stay away from it all than find ourselves fall into temptation. Have been there done that. So, I'll just forgo anything that might even remotely tempt me. It all starts out quite innocent.

[@hwd7]

09:00. Before I got born again too, I was into X-Files, Paranormal, Occult etc. Then a friend lent me Barry Smith's VHS tape on the NWO and Occult from a Biblical point of view, that connected all the dots for me, so I then knew the Bible was true, and Jesus is the only true God and saviour.

[@middlegroundlogic]

I used to love Ghost Adventures, A Haunting, and paranormal movies. Now I'm more impressed by reading about how those same demons run in fear when they encountered Jesus

[@freddhernanadez2230]

@@middlegroundlogic AMEN!!! Boooooyyyyy do they ever fear HIM. as well they should.

[@lanas.4903]

Was appreciating this UNTIL the end where you dissed the joy of The Lord..! I experienced this way back in the late 70s in a small group where The Lord was VERY present! (this and other manifestations of His presence, like the fragrance that came into the room as His Presence got strong then as it lifted the scent lifted) It was very real and SO beautiful (Heaven on earth! Like the book of Acts)! When the Joy of The Lord came, it was not unlike getting drunk in the Holy Spirit! So would you say this isnt "of God" because it relates to be drunk with alcohol? It happened to me, and it was one of the most beautiful "and healing" things I've experienced by The Holy Spirit! (read scripture about joy and laughter being like medicine)! I would say that the enemy doesnt want joy in the church, but dry religion! So I would disagree with your saying it not of God! the enemy does imitate things of God however! (we've all heard of a witches cackle, and that is evil. There IS a difference!) The Fruit of The Spirit is Love Joy ..etc etc! Find the real, but dont throw the baby out with the bathwater just because you havent been in the real yet!

[@SuperSherry1957]

I received the Holy Spirit as a teen, but have seen kundalini operate as well. There is a difference. Peace-no peace.

[@freddhernanadez2230]

Ooh oohhghh. We got a charismatic Pentecostal in the house again talking about getting drunk in the " spirit". It's as simple as this ; God gave us HIS Spirit which is not of fear but of power and love and of a SOUND MIND. you even mentioned peace - which IS one of the fruits of the Spirit of God. Does laughing hysterically and uncontrollably sound like peaceful and of a sound mind to you ??? Glory to the Risen Saviour Jesus Christ!

[@cdow68]

Aliens ARE Demons. aka Familiar Spirits. SO SO thankful for your testimony!!! I can relate to your story. I’m SO SO thankful that you’re shining light on the darkness!!! This is going to HELP SO MANY people!!! Thank You 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@brimstonebrimstone8617]

I grew up in the 70s and the 60s ushered in not just the sexual revolution but also a spiritual revolution which fully manifested itself in the 70s with a tremendous resurgence in the occult and everything occultic. It came across as very innocent (not demonic at all) and as if this was the direction we were supposed to go in if we were seeking higher knowledge - we were supposed to explore all of it. I became born again in the early 80s and one of the blessings the Holy Spirit bestowed on me was a knowledge of what was truly evil - spiritually evil. And I couldn't believe how aware I became of how evil the occult was and everything we had thought was interesting and cool in the 70s was actually pure spiritual evil and spiritual filth. Thank you God for saving me and opening my eyes to this.

[@korijarchow6319]

I loved hearing Jac's story! I think the magic question is great. I do love Harry Potter but it was nice to hear from a non-judgemental and argumentative perspective on how/why magic for children is not good and what we need to do as Christian parents to prepare our kids for this. I got sucked into Mormonism for a bit and even that was portrayed to me as mystical and magical in a way that drew me in. Thank you Jac and Alisa for having this conversation and make me feel not alone.

[@FromJosephtoJesus]

Hi Kori, My background is in Mormonism as well. Watching this, I was thinking about how some teachings in Mormonism have parallels with the Occult. Temple ceremonies being based in Masonry, spiritual experiences trumping the authority of the biblical text, and the never ending works in search of self-evolving. It breaks my heart to see so many deceived and thinking they are in the “only true church.” Praising Jesus for your salvation and mine as well!

[@garlandthompson5970]

I'm from a polygamist offshoot of Mormonism, and even they have the same occult for rituals in their endowment houses that my mom had never talked about no matter how hard I've pressed even when her marriages failed

[@TheNinjaInConverse]

Your guest is poised and a clear presenter! I'd love to hear more from her!

[@meadowstarot8879]

This just makes me think some people are so swayable and they're just extremists one way or the other. Seeing aliens? Envoking demons?? Now she's leading the worship.? The poor girl doesn't have an identity outside of religion and now she feels her purpose is to rationalize her former actions and be a tool for Jesus because, once again, she has no identity other than that. I seriously hope she picks up some hobbies that have nothing to do with religion or the occult so she can start to foster a sense of self outside of this all too narrow pigeonhole.

[@tonyawhaley1781]

My daughter went down this path and she got herself cleaned and she had mentioned what the guest did, that’s my daughter cried out to the Lord and she was saved at that time. God bless those of you that are dealing with this, yourself or with a loved one.

[@lynne1550]

Alisa, may God bless you. So grateful for you. And, God bless this remarkable young woman -what a testimony!!!! So powerful!!!!♥️♥️♥️

[@sandyb6668]

The devil copies God, it’s always a counterfeit.

[@DandyDuh]

Yup, can't even create his own hell or anything else but hate, lies, death & destruction..

[@emilyallen4986]

Jac, I am so incredibly proud of you! How awesome it is that our Lord Jesus saves souls like you and me despite our wrongs! How tender and loving and faithful he is!

[@teresarenee3829]

He can work through all, because of our backgrounds, that we can be looked at now, and people can see with their own eyes what He has done.....

[@theabyss6403]

Hail satan

[@xxfox]

How were you wicked?

[@ashleyconway4137]

Her story is so vague, I’m confused how a toddler can start seeing lights, alien beings? And that they’re ‘familiar’. No explanation. I would have asked more investigative questions.

[@adddaniel2479]

As a follower of Christ, you should NEVER watch any movie that has witchcraft in it...Disney or anything. As a Christian parent you should never allow that into your home for your children to see. You are responsible for your children. God will hold you responsible. The Bible says to train a up a child in the way they should go. That is a command, not a suggestion. Seek the Lord! He is the only way to heaven.

[@scottshepard1215]

Movies that show witchcraft / occult stuff in a realistic way like The Exorcist, Rosemary’s Baby and Hereditary are must-watches for people who might be considering the dark arts. They’re fantastic films.

[@ahhitskatie9094]

This entire interview was a blessing - thank you both and God bless you both!

[@sandrastorer5628]

I wonder if what Jesus stated as the love of many will grow cold is being partially fulfilled in this "deconstruction" wave of deception.

[@camerong5349]

I believe psychedelics can quiet the mind of the daily hustle bustle of life and the disconnect of spirituality it brings. I've seen mushrooms open the doorway backup to the spirituality we so long for. I believe like anything else too much of anything is bad however if you go into psychedelics with a strong faith then it can really be an eye opening experience that can bring you closer to God. I know this won't be a very popular idea here but there has been many cultures that have used psychedelics for this very same reason.

[@TheSarahJane33]

I was raised Southern Baptist by my preacher father and mother. When I was 13, my “man of God” father abandoned our family. I was in a tailspin and a crisis of faith for many, many years. I fell into deep and dark depression and was over prescribed SSRI drugs by my family physician for over a decade. Mushrooms came into my life on their own almost 5 years ago. I had never tried them and never thought to. I started seeing research about how psilocybin was being used to treat people before the mushrooms were presented to me. A friend asked me if I wanted to try them days after I found this info. I emphatically said yes. I was on the verge of suicide and claiming atheism. I started working with them and know that I was filled with the Holy Ghost. The Truth of Christ was revealed to me through the power of the One and Only God THROUGH HIS creation. The world tried to fix me…God was all that could save me.

[@jocelynlamb1395]

I’m so thankful for courageous hearts like yours, Jac, who follow the nudging and call of the Lord to speak about your testimony, story, journey, background that was one from death to life in Christ. No doubt the enemy wants to keep you silent, but you followed boldly in Jesus name to make His glory known. This was such an encouragement to me. Thank you to both you and Alisa!

[@briannehill7583]

Thank you for addressing Audrey. After the listening to you and the coopers and the camps, I wondered about some of the musicians that had made such an impact on me early in my walk. Audrey was a huge part of that. And I had a sneaking suspicion , so I went to the internet. I was so devastated reading where she is now. My heart felt shattered. Not my faith. I want to be clear. No human has the power to sway me from the word of God. But shattered for a person I have never met and yet loved and held a place in my heart for. For the way she her music was so refreshing for me and comforting to me as I stepped away from the life I knew into a new life in Christ. I felt tears streaming down my face to know that she walked away

[@balipsette]

Her first album was sooo good, and when I first gave my life to Christ, I used to listen to it constantly. But...and I don't know how to really explain it, but even before I know that "Christian deconstruction/progressivism" was a thing, I had a weird feeling about her as her later albums started to come out. I was also not super loving the fact that she converted to Catholicism (although that in and of itself is not necessarily a sign of apostasy, I just have to wonder about someone's biblical discernment if they feel comfortable converting to a nearly-dead denomination). But I just felt there was something "off" about her album "Evergreen" and I stopped listening. Ironically, as with Amanda Lindsey Cook, who has also become Progressive and very new-agey, I have found that both their music has gone steeply down in quality the further they have drifted from biblical Christianity. It's funny that as both of them have started to idolize themselves more and more as "artists" and, frankly, to worship their art rather than the One who gave them their gifts, their music has just become extremely boring and mediocre. And now I see from Audrey's Instagram that she has gone full new age, and weird, and spiritual. It's tragic. But that just shows that we really cannot put people on pedestals, especially artists.

[@briannehill7583]

@@balipsette yes! All of that almost mimics a conversation i had with my daughters about it. I actually had the same concerns as you. But her final departure from faith entirely is just so heart breaking. I had always hoped she would come out of catholicism, but I didn't want her to abandon God in the process. How tragic

[@cJroma316]

@@balipsette I didn't know about Amanda Cook changing. I haven't listened to her in a while but have her music saved in my YT playlist. Thanks for sharing.

[@shirleygoss1988]

By God's amazing grace I never was into anything such as she describes. When I was first saved I read some books by Christians who had been delivered from Satanic deceptions. I praise God He delivered this young woman!

[@50acrewood]

One of the most incredible testimonies I’ve heard. So thankful you both addressed Disney, Harry Potter, etc. It grieves my spirit that these things are huge debates in the church. As said, all witch craft is EVIL. This should be a nonissue it’s so clear.

[@sorenpx]

What about Lord of the Rings? It has magic but Tolkien was a Christian. In fact, he helped C.S. Lewis find his way into the church.

[@princeofdarkness1261]

Sincere question. The Bible does forbid witchcraft. Does it forbid reading stories about witchcraft? If so how can it be OK to read about the witch of Endor?

[@ianmcdonald8648]

@@sorenpx While we are not to judge the motives of people, we can judge the works or words - unless they have repented before God. He was a devout Catholic and very much an adorer of "Mary". There are no doubt millions of geniune beleivers in Jesus in the Roman Catholic system; He knows those who are His. But.... Jesus spoke nothing about us giving His Mum the attention that the Roman Catholic doctrine does. The apostles of Jesus calls us to focus entirely on Jesus Christ and no other. To be a "Christian" is to follow Jesus in the way He commanded us to and that He taqught the apostles to likewise teach and command. Focusing on "Mary" is absent in the Gospel of Jesus Christ which is the power of God to salvation.

[@ianmcdonald8648]

@@princeofdarkness1261 Why would you want to read stories about witchcraft? If you are studying the teachings of a certain belief as in wicca, for the genuine purpose of being able to reach people who are caught in that realm, that is one thing; but it is entirely another to read fantasy stories of witchcraft, written by people who are into that scene, such as the authoress of Harry P. She said that the whole story (or part one) was downloaded to her by a "guiding spirit" in a train journey. (it was an unclean spirit a seducing spirit that gave her the rubbish) There is no spiritual value in that, rather great danger.

[@TGuard00014]

@@princeofdarkness1261 I think it’s worth noting that the witch of Endor wasn’t the hero of the story. I have come to the conclusion that for me Harry Potter is very much a 1 Corinthians 8 issue. Stories of magic and witches/wizards etc are no stumbling block for me. I’m an avid reader and from a young age have been very good about pulling what is useful for me from stories and leaving everything else. As someone who grew up while the Harry Potter books were coming out I thought the concerns were absurd. From a very young age I had a clear picture of what was fantasy and what was reality and the idea that might be a struggle for people seemed beyond reason. But the last couple of decades have proven me wrong so if it a stumbling block from my brother I am willing to forgo it.

[@Hearth123]

My dad is a very strong Christian, growing up he always said, "God has no grandchildren, being my daughter won't save you, you have to be His"

[@fattsfatts7891]

Psychedelics brought me to God. I didnt believe at all until after using psychedelics. I no lpnger use them but thank God for them because without them i would have remained lost.

[@TheSarahJane33]

Same here! I was raised southern baptist and a preacher’s daughter before my dad left and I denied God. I claimed atheism for a very long time. My “doctor” had me drugged up and zombie like on 40 mg of Prozac daily to treat severe clinical depression and anxiety. I was having suicidal thoughts every day back then. Then I was guided to mushrooms, filled with the Holy Spirit and actually healed. Never trust man to treat illness with synthetic drugs when God created real medicine.

[@richdollars9799]

What an amazing testimony. Jesus truly is the way, the truth, & the life!

[@lucidarose613]

I always felt type disturbed and disgusted with laughing and shaking in churches knowing it was evil and came from spirits and not sent by God. I even had a devil of insanity attack me in church once and almost fell down a fight of stairs smh. My sister prayed over me in her car and we both rebuked it in Jesus name. I refused to except and it left by the power of God intervening.

[@danielesu7747]

How can laughing in church be evil. Dear, get filled with the Holy Spirit consistently and you’d be surprised the many emotions you’ll experience when you fellowship with Him.

[@lucidarose613]

@@danielesu7747 You speak in ignorance, thus I will not take offense to your condescending response. The devil goes to church as well, not everything is the Holy Spirit. I pray you come to understand the devil comes as an angel of light to decieve many. They did not laugh during Pentecost nor did they twitch as the demon possessed and oppressed do.

[@danielesu7747]

@@lucidarose613 “ Condescending response “? You must think you control the Holy Spirit for you to arrogate to yourself absolute knowledge of what the Holy Spirit does and doesn’t do in the life of a Christian. I’m very much aware that the devil can be present in churches, but to tell the millions of people who are filled with the Holy Spirit that they have to act in a way that you choose is absolute arrogance. The irony of it all is that these churches that you condemn are usually the ones that you see the manifestation of the Spirit of God like you read in the Bible. How can you claim to have the Holy Spirit manifesting in a dead church where you can’t even see any sign of rejoicing, dancing, crying, clapping etc. Come out of tradition and experience the manifold expressions of the Father. By the way the 120 people in the upper room who received the Holy Spirit weren’t celebrating Pentecost. It was those outside celebrating Pentecost that didn’t receive the Holy Ghost. So much ignorance in the church today.

[@lucidarose613]

@@danielesu7747 I condemned no one and nor any church by my statement. To the contrary You were the one offended by the truth of what I had observed in my own experience thus, by your own pride you insisted on me needing the Holy Spirit as to have had the ability to speak on God's behalf on me having Him or not. Your response is quite hypocritical .

[@lucidarose613]

@@danielesu7747 Acts 2:1-20 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. 5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. 6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. 7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? 9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. 12 And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this? 13 Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine. 14 But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words: 15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day. 16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: 19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: 20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:

[@redncurlybell]

Alisa and Jac, thank you so much for this interview. I too, as a child witnessed demons. Both my brother, and myself, were witness to them in our room and even outside in the yard/garden of our home. We we were raised christian (my mother recived Christ into her life when I was 1 years old), and I have memories of talking to beings in my room at night. They wanted to know what we did in the day, and would advise us on things to do the next day (or so). I never associated them with Aliens, but not until I was older (age 5/6) did I understand they were demons (or perhaps thought of them as ghosts)... However I do have one memory of my Mother, brother, and myself praying in our room, and a deep rumbling voice yell a long NO!!!! I know know it was us praying against them, and not until we moved into our new home, and I myself read my bible and prayed, and knew I could combat against them, (And still encountered them at night, but knew I could call on Jesus, and they would flee.) I still believe to this day I am very sensitive to the spirit world, and know they never stopped trying to pull me in. As a teenager I battled with the desires of the new age, as friends would want to play on a ouji board, watch demonic shows, and play with tarot cards... but the Holy Spirit would never allow me to go very far... as my spirit would scream out to stop. As a firm beliver in Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, and of course God our father.... I know He was protecting me... and am still thankful He contiunuses to pursue me, and draw me close, as I have seen many christians around me fall further away from him, being drawn to the supernatural, and things that are seen as an abomination to God.

[@martinecheverria5968]

Wow! What a story

[@janawalczuk833]

Wow! So much of this goes on in ones so young! So glad God watched over you✝️

[@brandonluker3660]

Yeah, Glad her testimony was heard. But not the testimonies of women who are survivors of Purity Culture. Who cares what they have to say.

[@bayouflier6641]

Didn't realize this was the lunatic channel. I'm outa here.......

[@rmarysimmons8661]

She is so lovely. I am so happy the Lord brought you back my sister.

[@christellevega3351]

Amazing interview 🤗 and praise God that He is faithful and able to reach anyone who cries out to Him.