...from Doncaster to Peterborough with EMR

[@ampersand.]

"Warping Drain" sounds like an expensive plumbing fault :D Lovely relaxing vid, beautifully captured as always, thank you.

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@ampersand. The Warping Drain is also the name of a well known wormhole in space in the Star Trek series... ...I'll get me coat...

[@Timstravels01]

A convoluted route for the rail nerds. It sounds right up my street. Great stuff Johnny, as always.

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@Timstravels01 Yes. I think i know my audience 🤣 Best wishes to you 👍

[@horsehollerer]

Fabulous stuff, many thanks! Just catching up on a couple of weeks worth of vids after an adventure of my own. In the spirit of your "illogical" route here, a few days ago I managed to extend a simple journey from Zürich to Milan into a thrillingly idiotic itinerary of 11 trains, 2 cable cars and a boat (all included in the good old Swiss day saver for CHF52!) 🤣P.S. Lincoln Cathedral is a beauty imho, as is Peterborough's.

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@horsehollerer that sounds like a great day out and not bad for Chf52! I have bookmarked that page on the SBB site. Might be a handy ticket to buy and have as a replacement for an interrail travel day when i need more boat, lift and bus hops. Thanks for that 👍

[@horsehollerer]

@@JohnnyHooverTravels Exactly! I only had two train-packed days on this trip so it was perfect. The other, btw, was a Frecciarossa business class ticket from Milan to Bari for €48, so a big saving on Interrail this time around! All the best.

[@tanknightriders]

I'm a regular on Sleaford to Lincoln most weeks. You should see it on a weekend - standing room only! We've been crying out for a regular third carriage for years as two is like sardines in a can! A new subscriber and looking forward to seeing your content.

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@tanknightriders shame you get cramped in. I know that the bean counters might say "it runs quite empty in the rest of the route", but that is frankly a get out. One more makes a difference as i know cos on my line we often had a 2 car 150, but now get cascaded 3 car 166s, and it is so much better. Thanks so much for watching and subscribing. If you like a challenge, here's a playlist of everything you've missed 😉 kzbin.info/aero/PLXk1cIVnitGYvh9laP5gL9x3kPfHZnS4x&si=sPrFsc3U-b2JWAim

[@trailwayt9H337]

Railway stations and passing areas are very interesting with very beautiful and very exelent with very simple..

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@trailwayt9H337 thank you. And thanks too for watching 👍

[@TheUncleGrant]

I would defiantly like Johnny to do some more crazy Train routes around the UK. Thanks to an informative trip through Lincolnshire.😀

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@TheUncleGrant I shall get some in my diary. It's a deal 👍 Thanks for coming along on this one 😁

[@davidmccammond456]

Thanks Johnny, going above and beyond as usual!

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@davidmccammond456 never a problem. I'm always prepared to go the extra mile (or quite a lot of extra miles in this case 🤣) Thanks for coming along 👍

[@PeteG143]

Thank you Johnny! Us rail nerds need to stick together! 🙂

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@PeteG143 Yes we do 👍 Thanks so much for watching 👍

[@lovefive5733]

@@JohnnyHooverTravels 😀😀😀

[@stephenc6648]

Nice video. Those trains are much nicer than the cattle trucks that we used to see in this area but some of the interiors are worn out. I hope they keep those excellent luggage racks after refurbishment. This is probably my most familiar train route, along with the one that criss-crosses it to go to Nottingham. It's a shame that this line isn't used more. As you've discovered, the Lincoln-Sleaford section is the busiest and most trains shuttle backwards and forwards over this section only. Unfortunately, trains aren't timed in such a way that you could easily use it to commute to Peterborough. Back in the late 80s, I used this as a way to travel from Leicester by changing at Peterborough. This wasn't always slower than changing to the Skegness line at Nottingham. In the 80s, many of the Peterborough trains continued to Ely and Cambridge. I once made that journey, purely for the sake of travelling as far as possible from Sleaford without a change of train. Over the years there have been proposals for open access operators to use the line for London-bound services but they have never come to anything.

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@stephenc6648 thanks so much for that extra information. I really appreciate it. I was just musing this morning that when the weather gets nice i could camp in Lincolnshire and travel some more of these lines... and maybe even make the time to visit Lincoln properly! And yes, let's hope the good luggage provision remains with a refurb/refresh of the interiors 👍

[@arthurerickson5162]

What a fun video! Thanks for posting.

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@arthurerickson5162 you are very welcome. Thanks for watching 👍

[@phronsiekeys]

I like the green upholstery in those cars, a favorite color of mine.

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@phronsiekeys well it clashes terribly with the EMR purple on the outside, but maybe we could call it "Lincoln Green", then that would be fine. Best wishes to you 👍

[@rogermarsh2763]

I asked on a previous occassion whether trains from Doncaster to Peterborough via Lincoln and Sleaford were well used. I didn't get a response but this article tells the story ! I fear for the service.

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@rogermarsh2763 as doing the whole journey is essentially daft (as it is quicker and cheaper on LNER), then the important thing is the intermediate journeys. It was pretty busy around Lincoln and another commenter has reported that the locals are pressing for three car trains instead of two because of overcrowding at times. So, on balance, i think the service has a function and should continue. Thanks for watching and asking questions 👍👍

[@77smp]

I think I may be one of those aforementioned "rail nerds". I've watched your delightful video whilst travelling through the forests of Finland! Despite having grown up near Peterborough and I'll be there in less than 48 hours! Madness I tell you!🤓

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@77smp haha! Not mad at all imho... hope you've had a great time in Finland! If you have time, I'd definitely recommend this route, but with a proper break at Lincoln for mooch around. Thanks for the kind words and thanks for watching 👍

[@77smp]

@@JohnnyHooverTravels Funny you should say but I did the Peterborough to Lincoln part back in January. I would say that the off peak return price you get on that route makes it much more appealing. Just do not underestimate the steep walk to the cathedral! Keep up the fine vlogs 🙂 P S. I'm still on that train, another two hours to Helsinki! 🤓

[@clivelangham435]

Enjoyed this a lot. Thank you.

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@clivelangham435 you are very welcome. Thank you so much for watching 👍

[@lovefive5733]

A brilliant video, Thank you for uploading this video 😊😊😊😊

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@lovefive5733 you are very welcome. Thank you so much for watching 👍

[@peterdnreynolds777]

Brilliant video as always, excellent scenery. Hope all is well, take care

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@peterdnreynolds777 all pretty good here Peter. Currently avoiding the wind in Devon! Hope it is ok with you too. Thanks as always for watching 👍

[@sandiandgregh]

Excellent job re: continuity by snagging the same seat when you had to switch trains.

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@sandiandgregh thanks for noticing. I had the production team run ahead to clear me a space. Worth it for the continuity... 😉 Thanks for coming along 👍

[@arthurtownsend8843]

Thanks for this video, some of the places you went through reminded me of my (car) journeys to Grimsby to visit my late aunt.

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@arthurtownsend8843 always very happy to be able to bring back some memories for people with my videos. You are most welcome. Thanks for watching along 👍

[@PaulGodfrey]

Great video and yes that is a line I would love to take.

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@PaulGodfrey thanks. I suppose we're all nerds here 😀

[@Fan652w]

Thanks Johnny for another extremely interesting video with lots of fascinating detail. Given the poor level of bus services in Lincolnshire, this line is of crucial importance to all the towns and villages along the route.

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@Fan652w Yes it definitely felt that way. It was a real ' locals' train in all the right ways. Best wishes to you 👍

[@paulgibsonphotography]

Great Video Johnny

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@paulgibsonphotography cheers Paul 👍

[@kevindennehy7105]

Nice trip. Thanks for sharing. I used to do a lot of journeys like this on Interrail.

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@kevindennehy7105 thanks! Yes, I've done similar with IR passes when I've been in Europe myself.! And thanks too for watching 👍

[@kevincollis2632]

Did well to find that route JH 👏

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@kevincollis2632 noticed it the previous time i was in the area doing the one train a day ride through Gainsborough central. So i took a diversion to check it out a month or two later! Thanks for coming along 👍

[@TravelJackJourneys158]

Fantastic video only done that service once to Lincoln. That 170 you had was ex West Midlands Railway before London Midland where the green comes. That Grand Central Voyager was for Bradford Interchange as the Voyager don't run to Sunderland

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@TravelJackJourneys158 thanks for that. Thanks for the GC correction. I thought that was the only GC timetabled past Doncaster at that time. I shall check that. Good spot 👍

[@rwm2986]

Thanks Johnny. A few years ago, I was on a Southbound HST that was diverted onto that line (trackside fire near Retford I think) so we travelled from Doncaster to Pye Wipe North Junction, a little NW of Lincoln Central, before branching off to go SW to Newark to rejoin the ECML. Of course, the IC225s had to sit and wait for the line to reopen. Diesel Power!

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@rwm2986 haha! Thanks for those memories 😀 And of course, thanks for watching 👍

[@chriswade7470]

Nothing like making a trip over the Great Northern and Great Eastern Joint railway

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@chriswade7470 ah yes. It was a real pleasure. Thanks so much for watching along 👍

[@Kulla1berg]

How had said that direct routes are the most interesting? This journey was for my very exciting to watch, never been in Lincoln - but it is definitely a must next time in Lincolnshire. This route also show the importance of having redundant lines if something happens to the main line. You showed us all why there is a "avoiding Splading route", have not understand it before even if I knew there is a big freighter terminal close.

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@Kulla1berg indeed, it is a very useful route indeed for freight traffic. Pleased you found the video useful and informative 👍

[@theBusManiac]

I think its good value as you avoid the dreadful Azumas. At least you got a comfy seat rather than the ironing boards!

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@theBusManiac well yes, that is one way of looking at it! 😁 Thanks so much for watching 👍

[@Sim0nTrains]

Great video, it one that I have done before between Doncaster and Sleaford but not to Peterborough

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@Sim0nTrains thanks Simon 👍

[@walterfillingham]

Oh I do like a good journey through Lincolnshire, although I’m a proud Aberdonian, my family name is actually a village in Lincolnshire so do have an infinity with the county and have been a few times. Really want to explore Lincolnshire by train and I do like the class 170, always a comfortable train. great video, thank you

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@walterfillingham it is pretty easy to explore with an East Midlands rover ticket! Thanks for watching and best wishes to you 👍

[@ubicaritasetamor]

Excellent video Mr Hoover! Keep up the good work! I live in Essex, and it amazes me how there is a train service from Norwich all the way to Liverpool! Don't you think?

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@ubicaritasetamor must say I'm tempted to do that mad Norwich to Liverpool run one day soon. Could be a laugh. Definitely a bit odd a quirky one for sure Thanks for the kind words and thanks too for watching 👍

[@alastairhopkins245]

I still shall travel to Peterborough on the slow train from Doncaster!!!

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@alastairhopkins245 excellent news! Good choice! 👍

[@azuma892]

I thought the Grand Central Voyagers are only used on the Bradford Interchange service, not Sunderland, anyway this seems like quite an enjoyable journey.

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@azuma892 someone else mentioned that too. From the train times i thought it was on its way to Sunderland... but I'm happy to have been put right on that one 👍 And thanks too for watching 👍

[@katashworth41]

I can’t see or hear the words ‘The Slow Train’ without humming the Flanders and Swann song.

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@katashworth41 thanks for reminding me of that lovely little song. I went off to have listen! Wonderful ❤️

[@jameswright7284]

Came across this route thanks to a video from Nick Badley went from Peterborough to Donny and it was lovely even if it was 2½hrs later than original plan due to issues on the line between Ely and Peterborough

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@jameswright7284 well thanks for repeating the ride with me! 😀

[@kevinellis8869]

A lovely rural route, I've completed it in stages. The internal/external colour clash of the 170s is hideous, the original units (ex-Scot Rail) are better but showing their age. I much prefer the ex-GA/TfW grey, not forgetting we've got at least one ex-Southern unit in their green, but alleged there might be some refurbishment soon. Totally agree with another poster's comments about the Whistle Stop at Grantham. Keep up the obscure trips.

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@kevinellis8869 Yes, the colour clash is jarring. But at least the seats and the coverings were still in good nick. I shall continue to search out the quirky ones. You can count on that 👍

[@tomburnham5119]

An interesting ride, mostly on what used to be the Great Northern and Great Eastern Railways Joint Line. I've never done the whole Doncaster-Peterborough journey by that route but I've done bits of it, including in about 1969 or 1970 from March to (I think) Lincoln on the old North Country Continental (a daily through train between Harwich Parkeston Quay and Manchester).

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@tomburnham5119 i would have loved to do Manchester to Parkstone Quay back in the day. Sadly not to be. Btw, i shall be back at Harwich in January in my way to Amsterdam! Best wishes to you and thanks for watching 👍

[@tomcarr1358]

You were on route increasingly used by container trains following the construction of the dive under at Werrington Junction. Many of the ‘box’ trains are to/from Felixstowe docks and the You Tube web site “Werrington Junction” often records the traffic to Leicester, Ely,Ipswich , London, Yorkshire and Scotland

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@tomcarr1358 Yes the dive has been of great benefit in getting these trains onto this route with minimal disruption to the ecml. I shall pop over later to have a look at that Werrington channel 👍

[@peterskegness3204]

There's a few EMR services between Peterborough and Lincoln scheduled to travel via the Werrington dive under. Did it last year. @@JohnnyHooverTravels

[@GabrielsReviews]

13:30 I've done this a number of times but back when the 158s were the more regular stock on this route.

[@Anonymoususer_8823]

Have you seen the new EMR Aurora Class 810s that some have started doing test runs on the Midland Main Line and on the East Coast Main Line.

[@peterskegness3204]

Excellent. And again you manage to call at one of the pubs I use (Draughtsman, at Doncaster). Must confess I avoid going via the Joint Line back to Skegness. Prefer changing at Grantham which has another Real Ale pub on the station on Platform 1, The Whistle Stop 🍺😁

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@peterskegness3204 Yes the Draughtsman is a lovely little corner of the station. I will have to stop at Grantham now! 🍺

[@peterskegness3204]

@JohnnyHooverTravels Am sure you will enjoy it at the Whistle Stop. Quite spacious inside compared to The Draughtsman 😁🍺

[@peterskegness3204]

​@@JohnnyHooverTravelsWill be doing another return trip to Doncaster over the next few weeks. Via Grantham and ECML, carefully ensuring I get a 225 set on both outward and return 😊

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@ ah the 225s. Still wonderful ❤️

[@Andrewjg_89]

Maybe you have chosen the slower longer route with East Midlands Railway from Doncaster to Peterborough. Rather than using LNER. But still what a nice journey.

[@GabrielsReviews]

1:40 Who on earth does that? I've had that on the Hull Trains Paragon fleet and Grand Central voyagers

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@GabrielsReviews dunno... but it has always been the way with chewing gum 🤷‍♂️ Thanks for watching too 👍

[@GabrielsReviews]

@JohnnyHooverTravels No problem. How dare the previous occupier leave chewing gum though?

[@davidcronan4072]

EMR plans to completely refurbish its 170, 360 158 fleets. The project will cost about £60m and include new seat foams and covers, an extensive refresh, new passenger information systems, and CCTV.

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@davidcronan4072 well that would help with the colour clash. But with both units i thought, judging by the time since the last refurbishment, the seats and the coverings were holding up pretty well. Thanks for the information and thanks so much for watching too 👍

[@tonys1636]

Slight fault, the guard's/Train manager's tea making facilities had stopped working.

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@tonys1636 haha! 🤣 Thanks for watching 👍

[@harriscouwenberg139]

no Sleaford Mods in the soundtrack?

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@harriscouwenberg139 haha! Good shout! What a miss that was! 👍

[@user-eg8pv2om7j]

Johnny does it, so you don't have to. Thankyou

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@user-eg8pv2om7j you are very welcome. Thanks for coming along 👍

[@nathantew946]

Is this a parliamentary train or is this a regular service?

[@Ulleskelf]

A regular service. 5 trains a day do Doncaster-Peterborough this way, with some others doing Don-Lincoln and Lincoln-Peterborough

[@JohnnyHooverTravels]

@@nathantew946 just a regular service. As i say in the video, it is very useful for people that line in Lincolnshire. Thanks for watching 👍

[@davidsummerfield2594]

On this line the best service is between Lincoln and Peterborough with 14 trains on weekdays but only 9 on saturdays with the last train from Peterborough to Lincoln not calling at Sleaford and uses the avoiding line! to my knowledge this is the only time the avoiding line as had a timetabled service!