Full testimony: Sergeant who spoke with mother, responded to shooting at Oxford High School

Sgt. Matthew Peschke has worked with the Oakland County Sheriff’s Office for 20 years.

[@user-rk4lr8vf9z]

This is the absolute worst defense lawyer ever. She has no trial etiquette 🤯

[@kimberlycornelius7911]

She was Larry nassors attourney

[@jonnsmusich]

What she needs is a way to convince the jury of her argument. And she doesn't.

[@949queenb]

None! She’s Awful

[@nightwithout-stars1951]

@@kimberlycornelius7911Enough said. I remember she gave an interview after the Nassar trial and said he “only” had 37k images of child porn and that other pedos have significantly more images than that. That was her best defense. It was cringeworthy.

[@zubetp]

@@kimberlycornelius7911i keep seeing people say this. nassar was doa. and in any case, even the worst of us is entitled to thorough legal representation.

[@hivemindconcussion2173]

The 21st century parent takes all the credit for their children’s successes and zero blame for their failures.

[@zubetp]

oh, i think you'll find that's nothing new. parents have throughout history struggled to maintain objectivity when it comes to their kids. the way social shame is employed looks very different now, that's all.

[@Sweetpea064]

Well in this case, they certainly didn’t do much to help him succeed and this was every bit as much her fault as it was his.

[@kjh6903]

@@Sweetpea064🎯

[@adamquinn3235]

This defense attorney is that SNL character “The Girl You Wish You Hadn’t Started A Conversation With At A Party”.

[@jonnsmusich]

Yeah, but she isn't an SNL character. She's chosen a career she's not good at. Most people do. I'd bet that most of the mopes who are leaving self righteous judgements on they video probably have jobs they are not very good at.This is a GREAT case to defend. Very tough, but some interesting strategies possible. But she isn't putting in the work she needs to. So justice will be served and this defendant will do jail time.

[@Sweetpea064]

😂😂😂

[@suzymoroka297]

@@jonnsmusichI have to agree with you largely on this one, it’s a very interesting case and her strategy sometimes makes me chuckle. She’s very lucky to have a judge who is so indulgent and treats her with kid gloves.

[@maggiemaloney8599]

I would be so distraught they'd have to sedate me. It looks as if she's just sitting there texting.

[@Noellevrr]

Came here to say this! I’d be screaming and hyperventilating. Shes just chilling “I know my son shot people, I just don’t know why I’m sitting in the back of the cop car?” Or whatever she said like that….mind boggling

[@zubetp]

yup. and when they pulled up WHAT she was texting, my eyebrows hit the ceiling. that's what lost her case in my book - her text logs.

[@CharlotteFerrariBreton]

HAHAHAHAHAH. Sure sure they would have to drag you to the looney bin in a straight jacket lololololololol

[@CharlotteFerrariBreton]

@@zubetp Your book is clueless.

[@kcfriend5021]

The defence attorney plan so far has been to disrupt the prosecutor as frequent as possible. Cough as much as possible when not on camera. She should not be a lawyer in any capacity.

[@ChelMaries]

The jury will see right through her antics! I’ve never seen a defense attorney whine so much and the Judge talks to her with kid gloves on… I don’t get it!

[@kcfriend5021]

I do agree with you

[@NYC2023-du8mg]

Exactly... she is also annoying.

[@jayjoy331]

And I'm sure it'll make people pissed off to know that she's getting paid $200,000 dollars for this B.S defense.

[@suzymoroka297]

I was wondering who was coughing😂. She’s so petulant and childish in her approach, she got lucky with this judge because any of the other judges we’ve seen, wouldn’t have tolerated her. When she was 😭 with Jennifer, then tried to defend herself when prosecutors said she was creating drama 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@janicefarmer2387]

The most mind boggling thing is thety ran and werent even there for Ethans first hearings.

[@tishhobbs6998]

Woooah. WTF? They are wack. & all the while she's chatting with her lover.... I watched the footage of the guy who discovered their car in his work parking lot. What a bizarre situation he found himself in. Good eye, good citizen.

[@HuskysMommy]

“My son just ruined his life”…did she even ask about the victims?

[@christineellis3688]

I am not sure if she cares about anyone else

[@myfriendschmeeda]

I don’t believe she cares about her son either. She seems self absorbed & callous

[@tinyhomestead6023]

I didn’t see any evidence that she ever expressed any concern for either wounded students or students who were killed by her son. 😮😢

[@jlorde8838]

​@@tinyhomestead6023omg of course you don't because the trial isn't set up for you to see that.

[@Sweetpea064]

@@jlorde8838 Both sides are able to make their case so what do you mean?

[@julianyc422]

If you are racing home to see if your sons New gun was still in the house, instead of to the school, you are responsible for neglect, she didn't look at the drawing closely, yet texted it to her Boss the Horse Farm Owner and at the school being shown this drawing you never looked at.

[@francescagibbons5842]

Didn't mean the smiley face lol..

[@maureens100]

or she looked but did not see....

[@turtletruth]

Ted Bundy, Jack the Ripper, Jeffrey Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, Ethan Crumbly and all the other heinous killers parents required incarceration. (Maybe even the death penalty?)...! The prosecutor’s ominous plot against these parents is darker than a moonless night!

[@libertyna933]

All adults besides EC

[@StephenSmith-fz8fb]

I believe was registered in the father's name as the son to young.

[@Ryann1432]

This is the most unorganized trial ever! And the defense is beyond inappropriate! When will the court stop kissing SS butt? So much for unbiased

[@JillyMae89]

Who/what is SS?

[@jonnsmusich]

How many trials have you seen. Clearly not many. I've seen much worse.

[@janicefarmer2387]

Just wait until you see her disrupt the states closing statement.. totally inappropriate.

[@kjh6903]

The defense attorney doesn’t think the bodies of the children who lost their lives should be shown ???? Are you kidding me ?? This isn’t a trial for a speeding ticket! Children died while they were at school . It’s not supposed to happen . We should all be uncomfortable. I’m glad the prosecutor used the word executed . Call it what it is !!

[@CharlotteFerrariBreton]

How much lower can your IQ be? The horrific acts and the dead bodies ARE NOT EVEN relevant in this trial. She is NOT on trial for murder MORON.The crime was commited by her son how idiotic and stupid can Americans be ?

[@sharonsmith3687]

Feel so sorry for this jury. This is a precedent setting case with Both an Inept Judge an a horribly unprepared Defense. Jury duty is difficult to begin with !!

[@zubetp]

judge was fine. defense could definitely take some critique.

[@GaliSinatra]

This defense attorney is on another world here. Bizarre.

[@terrylemieux8511]

The U.S. citizens' obsession with owning and carrying guns is mind-boggling!!

[@TheJanet4321]

It certainly is.

[@jonnsmusich]

Something you are afraid of but others do and enjoy (safely) boggles your mind.... Well, there ya go.

[@turtletruth]

The U.S. Citizens' obsession with owning and carrying fishing poles is mind-boggling!!

[@ElfinMadness]

@@turtletruthFishing poles don’t kill people - guns do.

[@turtletruth]

@@ElfinMadness People don't make mistakes, pencils do!

[@savannahbell5674]

This defense attorney is abhorrent

[@jonnsmusich]

Hardly abhorrent. She's just doing her job. She just not very competent, poorly prepared and weak. Why are you so mean spirited?

[@micheleshertenlieb4856]

She is unwatchable! Can't believe she is a practicing attorney!

[@Sochi314]

If you get an email, call or text from your child's school about an active shooter, is your first instinct to go home to check for your guns? Even if they didn't think he was homicidal, would the first message you send your child be not to do it?

[@tinyhomestead6023]

That’s all very telling

[@klouvry]

No one knows how they would react!

[@snc0023]

Wouldn't you immediately CALL YOUR CHILD and make sure he's ok

[@Sochi314]

@klouvry my point may not have been clear. The mom was concerned that he was depressed after telling others that he heard noises, saw ghosts, and gave him meds. A gun was purchased for the same son that she was concerned about. She'd just left the school for the kid she called weird but her instincts told her to tell her son (who she assumed was the shooter) not to do it. Up until that point, she wasn't concerned enough not to have a gun available to him. The father wasn't concerned enough not to make a straw purchase. If your first instinct is to check to see if your kid is the shooter, MAYBE you shouldn't have bought him the gun. Maybe you bear some responsibility.

[@klouvry]

@@Sochi314 agreed! Thats where they will go to jail and for not having their guns properly locked and stored. They r at fault dont get me wrong! Then the running away= not the right thing to do, either they will get in trouble for that too.

[@kimberlycornelius7911]

"I wouldn't have done anything differently! " Really! really! Nothing so she good with every damn thing that happened ! ?

[@wearyandheavyladen23]

why does her defense attorney keep repeating the phrase “Your Honor, i have no objection.”? Nobody asked you if you had an objection.. it’s out of place and doesn’t make any sense when she says it.

[@orchidgarden3124]

That is driving me crazy too.

[@dreapress1227]

That’s part of the procedure.

[@emmitt5443]

That kid should have been pulled out of there by CPS years ago - who the hell lives like that total disarray and tilth.

[@carrieblink182]

A lot of people do, and this doesn’t remotely touch legal grounds to remove a child, especially a 15 yr old. A 15 yr old, sadly, can fend for themselves in a situation like this. The younger the age of child, and if there is fecal matter, mold, rodents- maybe a child would be legally removed. I say this as a former CPS worker. State statutes define when a child can be removed, and one needs to really piece apart the legal definitions and what they dictate as abuse/neglect.

[@emmitt5443]

I'm pretty sure the home has looked like that for decades. @@carrieblink182

[@courtneyratliff3684]

You should be prison for being in cps envolvment

[@amyambrose6286]

It seems CPS only visits when damage already done, "KEEP IN MIND TO BECOME A PARENT is a Blessing, You decide your Child's (children's fate) If you are physically, verbally abusive, neglectful-"YOU ARE TO BLAME FOR THEIR FATE/THEIR TROUBLES-IF THEY END UP ON THE STREETS, A LOST SOUL IT IS YOUR OWN FAULT!!! BECAUSE PARENTING IS MORE THAN JUST MAKING CERTAIN THEY HAVE A GOOD CHRISTMAS" (SO, WHERE IS ACCOUNTABILITY THEN FOR THE BREEDERS???

[@ElfinMadness]

Kids paying for America’s gun obsession.

[@juliaroberts-felonystopnew2514]

She went home and hadn't made her eay to see if the gun was missing??? WTF was she doing???? No tears, no emotions, nothing!

[@ashleymadison9380]

I am GenX. Something has changed in our society and access to guns is NOT what has changed. I grew up in a town that had this same "gun culture". I got my first gun for Christmas when I was 9. I stored the gun and the ammo in my bedroom. By the time I was in HS I had multiple guns, including the loaded handgun I kept in my car that I drove to school everyday. Many of my classmates did the same. We were taught gun safety from an early age. We didn't have school councilors. I didn't have a good home life. I was THE kid everyone picked on growing up. It never entered my mind that shooting up the school was even an option. It never entered the mind of any of my friends who had full access to guns and ammo. Point is, something has changed in our society and access to guns is not it.

[@steviasativa9803]

Same, I grew up in nh lol

[@shannonoconnor5502]

Your statement here is extremely thought provoking. You are right, we seriously don’t understand the motivations for gun violence in the US.

[@jmitzenmacher]

It is because it became a thing with Columbine. Once it was introduced it inspired the other school shootings. Its the same idea as suicide, in that once someone a person knows commits suicide, it raises the risk of anyone who knew that person committing suicide as well.

[@be4202]

You’re absolutely right, our society has changed, in my opinion violence has been normalized through social media, violent movies, violent interactive video games, none of these were prevalent while I grew up. During those years school shootings were unheard of.

[@marandaturner942]

They were taking interest in teaching him proper procedures, they charged him as an adult but thecparents couldnt treat him like an adult??? Hiw does any 9f this work??? I literally am mindblown about this whole case against them. This is a faaaar stretch all of it.

[@reinapatricia6717]

This kid, did not need to have access to a fire arm,its plain as day,he struggled with mental issues,also impulsivity,saying he had to kill and couldn't wait to get that gun,kill as many as he could and also make the parents of the kids that were deceased hurt and cry. This kid was obsessed with taking lives. Sadly both sides have suffered a great deal,from a horrific incident that could have been avoided. Everyone lost. The evidence speaks for itself. Prayers for all the victims and families.

[@LORRAINEREAD1]

When are they doing the closing arguments? If I listen to the defense one more time I'm going to smash my phone 😂

[@berryhij1]

Seriously! Her voice is like nails on a chalkboard. Then you throw in her constant complaining and it’s almost unbearable.

[@Mastergaming44558]

The parent in the police car is extremely calm for just learning that her child shot students at their school, that doesn’t seem like it would be a normal reaction to a horrible situation like this. Very telling…..

[@christineolexa5116]

Footage of her sitting in the cop car is very relevant. Rough demeanor. Foul language. Tough cookie. She is defensive, abrupt and angry. What a rude woman. I think she knows what is coming next. Wondering if her son's name will be on the news? She was very "checked out"; Disconnected from her son with work, horses and an ongoing affair. She thought there was "nothing abnormal" about his behavior so she certainly did not spend much time at home. She is culpable for buying him a gun/improper storage/supervision, etc. that contributed to the deaths.

[@kjh6903]

She seemed rude and sarcastic to me on the stand during cross examination. She’s a nasty selfish woman in my opinion.

[@ellabella6099]

@@kjh6903I thought so too .

[@melb2258]

Never knew how much body weight influences one’s attitude. Here on video she clearly displays a slender woman with an attitude, while now on trial and much heavier, she seems meek w/ not much of an attitude, wow just wow!

[@zubetp]

not to be that guy, but do you think the fact that she's been in solitary confinement since she was taken into custody might have something to do with it? she hasn't been able to ride her precious horses. 😢😂

[@Mrscvbuzz]

I think her demeanor on the s Yang has a lot to do with preparation from her attorney. If you look closely at her hands when the camera pans back, you can see her thumbs going around each other a mile a minute. She is feeling the heat…. As she should

[@cristinamora7791]

Always!

[@charlene107]

Never missed a meal due to nerves!

[@esmeduplessis941]

If this is the way this lady talks to other people in dire situations like this....I'm wondering. She seems pissed (sorry) about everything. No worry, no tears, no feeling. I'm not a quick crier, but she's at this stage thinking of herself. At school she had no emotion, just anger for the inconvenience for she had to leave work. If it was my child I would've rushed to his side, showed some love. Showing love isn't wrong, just parenting no1. Anger will have to wait. Her phone should've been off. But calls come in and she's telling everybody she doesn't know what happened. What about the gun lady? If my children's father bought my 15yr old son a gun, I would've taken it to the nearest police station Hindsight always comes, but a parent should be wide awake...especially if you have a lingering worry about your child. But she's still worrying about the horses. I know one should not judge, no one is perfect, but emotions are free and love for your child also, but bad attitude could cost you more than you could ever afford.

[@KatJ3st]

Trust me, 'horse people' are not in touch with the real world. Horses become their complete focus. EVERYTHING else comes second. I know this from working in the business.

[@klouvry]

The judge told everyone to do their best to Not show emotions but she also said there are times when crying will be necessary

[@loriburdette4629]

Well then, that’s it. Let’s send her to prison because she doesn’t cry as much as you think she should!

[@mrsdashwood9700]

As far as I know, the school counselor saw Ethan’s extremely violent drawing, but still made the decision to send Ethan back to class. The parents were definitely negligent, but so is the counselor.

[@theMMAdhatter]

The counselor testified to making the decision to send Ethan back to class because his parents refused to take him, and the only other option would be letting Ethan walk home to be alone. They thought he was suicidal, not homicidal - they wanted to keep him at school and around people to prevent him from killing himself.

[@berryhij1]

I watched his testimony. He had no authority to tell him not to go to class. That was up to the principal and he made that decision.

[@nightwithout-stars1951]

@@theMMAdhatterEthan wasn’t being monitored, so he definitely wasn’t on suicide watch. He went into the bathroom, pulled out his gun, and started using it. Ethan and his parents are responsible, but the school also should’ve put their foot down and made the parents take him home and get him counseling.

[@carrieblink182]

I’ve diligently and purposely approached watching this trial without the “hindsight is 20/20” perspective. Hearing the testimony from the counselor, especially the phrase of “what I knew at that point in time.” Is really important to keep in mind. I cannot begin to imagine the trauma and guilt this man has had to live with on an hourly basis. Not to mention social media and media outlets, have grilled him either individually or grouped him in with the school.The counselor did absolutely outstanding on the stand. He answered questions from both sides, very calmly and articulated his answers so well. I believe the progress this man has made with his own trauma and role in this tragedy, is absolutely remarkable. And then to basically testify to the world, in a nationally televised court trial; what he did and explain the why?! My God. Many cannot grasp this concept; but I can. It may have been one a very therapeutic experience; or it could’ve been an intense triggering situation that threw all that progress away. Please be cognizant of this. I haven’t heard all testimony, but majority of it; regardless of who should’ve asked, was any of the Crumbleys asked about safety back at house? Knives? I feel if that one question, that one thought, could’ve changed course. However, even if it was asked, you have parents who clearly minimize the true state of their son.

[@CKing-388]

Agree 100%

[@reeva5735]

Her lack of concern w/ regards to any victims, even her own son is absolutely shocking to me. She does bear responsibility... But like many others in the Country, she seems detached from reality.

[@jodienglehart1003]

Has she even inquired about her son?

[@jessehickman668]

Refusing to use his name and the insistence to call a mentally ill 15 year old boy only “the shooter” seems in bad taste. It’s a continuation of his dehumanizing that he experienced by his parents ignoring his cries for help. Now the government is refusing to acknowledge him as human….. I remain unimpressed by everyone in this particular courtroom.

[@loveforeignaccents]

Actually it was at the victims' families' request that his name not be used during the trial, so they are abiding by that.

[@jessehickman668]

@@loveforeignaccents oh ok. I didn’t know that. I guess that makes sense. It still seems destructive. But if it were my kid who died im sure id feel very differently.

[@butterbeanqueen8148]

@@jessehickman668there has been a lot of opposition to using the shooters names since that gives them personal attention and “glory”. Many of them have expressed that they are going to be as famous as _______ (whoever they admire). They want the recognition. By not using their name we are taking away their “fame and glory”

[@theMMAdhatter]

I'm not sure why the parents of the victims in this case made the decision they did, but not naming mass shooters is becoming standard practice, especially in media reporting. It's designed to limit notoriety and hopefully reduce the likelihood of copycat crimes.

[@nikkimaloney2759]

By not using his name, he doesn't get the "fame." His name isn't important anyhow

[@christyobrien7499]

Was she at all concerned about the children he killed! So sad.

[@courtneyratliff3684]

Are u concerned you will leave these kids alone

[@Chilisparkinglot]

So easy to judge when its not you..

[@nuckinfuts7610]

Lol sure

[@klouvry]

I totally agree with you. There's not a perfect parent out there.

[@jonnsmusich]

Right. Self righteousness is the new social media drug of choice.

[@JGjdg74]

Does anyone know what happened to their dog and cats?

[@lizbutler9108]

She made a mistake in talking to the police without a lawyer and immunity from prosecution. After this case no parent of a suspect will make that mistake again. This will make the police's job more difficult in all future atrocities.

[@franceshewes5301]

Jennifer has aged big time. She looks like she is suffering big time.

[@nightwithout-stars1951]

Were the Crumbleys bonded out or have they been in jail this whole time? I’m guessing jail because they originally tried to flee.

[@Leigh3420]

@@nightwithout-stars1951they’ve been in jail for over 2 years

[@DawgMama]

Im sure that to those of you who have never been in shock, her behavior seems cold. Your brain almost half shuts down, as a way of protecting us from trauma. Whats happened has not even registered with her just yet. She is operating on auto pilot.

[@ellenstecko2443]

Defense attorney is awful!!! Absolutely unprepared. Saying Sorry 100 times,,,

[@Justaskme781]

I have always felt that the only thing worse than having a child of mine executed would be to be the mother of the person who did it. Evidently she doesn't feel this way but I can only think that I would be so sick and upset and crying for those poor children. I would be wondering what the hell I did wrong

[@kjh6903]

I know my kid shot up the school but I don’t understand why we’re in the back of a cop car . Wow ! She doesn’t seem too upset about the fact her child executed children . This is all just a bother to her .

[@debbiespinelli1]

My sons were not to have or handle a fire arm at age 15 may I add even without behavior or mental issues.

[@jonnsmusich]

Mine did. Learned safety first and respect and then how to get skilled and not be ignorant. Good American values. Overcoming ignorance and fear with experience.

[@jlorde8838]

​@@jonnsmusichthank you

[@Type1MomRN]

The Audio of the video is terrible!

[@LouiseForce]

Jennifer appears to be a cold, selfish person..she had options 😭 with her son but didn't use them

[@robertamorey629]

His friends parents recognized he needed treatment, and took him in, why didn't the Crumbly's recognize their son needed help?

[@lynnlegault9297]

Wow is that her?? she sure as changed a lot

[@kjh6903]

Yes . She’s been in jail since 12/21 .

[@MyPeePnAss]

There are NO winners here.

[@barbaramascaro6899]

Her phone was much more important!

[@lildebboston455]

They both failed on every level. More concerned with the damn Horse. I'd find them both guilty as charged.

[@vm9626]

what an idiot judge..."there might be boring parts"...WHHHAAATTT?????

[@Karen-hl8hq]

Wow! She seems so annoyed having to answer questions. Just curt and irritable. Defensive.Probably easy to understand, but she is not coming across well.

[@MeMyselfandI25]

We call him “shooter” not Ethan, which is his actual name! So ridiculous!

[@ccharles848]

No kidding! He was tried as an adult, right?

[@lizbethannc440]

an attorney that say "way prejudicial"????

[@runningwithlola]

She's embarrassing to watch!

[@bunnie12345]

i might have missed it but …did she ever say How is he? Where is he ? Can i see him? Talk to him? When can i see him? what will happen to him ? instead she is sad she missed her horse class and time w/side piece.

[@tonet850]

A lot of people out there need to realize that guns are not toys. Everyone shouldn't own one just because they have a right. Something needs to change. Some people are too stupid...too ignorant and could careless about society or even their own kids....why should she care about anyone else's kid? What kind of hobby involves a 9mm?

[@jonnsmusich]

My hobby. Guns are not toys and should never be treated with anything but respect and safety caution. Overcoming fear of guns and learning to respect them should be a school requirement.

[@DiddlyD-xx2ih]

​@@jonnsmusichamerica has lost its way. You want to teach guns, when so many children can't do basic math.

[@jonnsmusich]

America is too big for America to be described collectively. Some people in America have lost their way. Not everyone. So there's that false premise. My son mastered long rifle target shooting at a pretty high level when he was fourteen and calculus when he was 16. So there's that. Seems to me if individuals took responsibility for their child's education instead of complaining about how bad things are. Things would get better....There's that.....@@DiddlyD-xx2ih

[@tamsiracuse]

She threw her son under the bus, like fictional character Tony Soprano's mom.

[@spittinchips5175]

This case is being covered by Australian news outlets. Just heard it on the car radio.

[@maryfrederick6934]

This witness is Homer Simpson incarnate. I kept waiting for him to say “doh”!

[@myfriendschmeeda]

She only seems interested in worrying about them being in the news. How is she just chilling there, smoking & sighing?

[@trenyispretty9154]

Who really knows if he was actually hallucinating ? He could’ve been saying that for strictly for attention nobody really knows I think he was saying that for attention and only attention from his family and that’s why he’d only say it while they was gone and when he wasn’t getting their attentions that’s why us that grow up with siblings don’t do all this even without our parents attention he was a only child seeking for attention for his parents that’s why he wanted them to ask questions in the interagation room and the dad wouldn’t allow the mom to even speak together son

[@Sochi314]

While it may be true that he was asking for attention, why ignore the claims? He wasn't an only child as his father had a child previous to his mom I think it was before. But she confided in others that she thought he was depressed, told others he was hearing voices/noises. They prescribed their own dosage of medication for him. Even still, if you thought your child craved attention, the first thing that comes to your mind wouldn't be a gun.

[@user-ib9hd6hp2x]

A child lieing for attention NEEDS ATTENTION and it’s that ignorance and dismissive attitude that lead up to this tragedy

[@BrookelLakeKC]

I’m sorry but something is seriously disturbing about this mom instantly almost wanting to blame her son and goes on and on then kinda laughs?! Idk

[@p1lindsay]

She deserves 15 yrs for each victim. She’s too narcissistic to ever change.

[@courtneyratliff3684]

I hope everyone learns from this as freedom was fought n never won

[@franceshewes5301]

Every day the judge seems to put on more makeup.

[@paigestein3897]

Is it me or is this detective with the in car camera a little dim?

[@jonnsmusich]

Maybe. But "playing dumb" is a very effective forensic interviewing technique.

[@courtneyratliff3684]

Being real scared of a fear you have to face seeing how bad my fear of not coming fourth did and lead

[@CKing-388]

Idk why none of the other school shooter parents have been tried or convicted. They too got or stole the guns from their parents. 🙄

[@DiddlyD-xx2ih]

Not true. The columbine shooters didn't.

[@energeticremedies]

Its unconstitutional for them to go to prison, IMHO

[@DawgMama]

Right. If these parents are convicted then us citizens need to demand that parents of gang members, those little sheht bahgs stealing cars, and wiping out retail stores need to also be charged. They don't even charge parents for truancy anymore. This is so obviously about gun debate. I'm bewildered.

[@Sochi314]

Under what constitution? If you knowingly gave an inebriated person the keys to your car, do you bear any responsibility? Or do you believe to charge you with negligence would be unconstitutional?

[@tishhobbs6998]

Anyone else think mom's lawyer is just a weeee bit in over her head?

[@Leigh3420]

If that was me in the back of a squad and search warrants for my house I would be calling lawyers not going on social media. She’s more worried about smoking a cigarette. Priorities “mother of the year”!

[@robertamorey629]

Texting while in the police car, making excuses for herself

[@juliaroberts-felonystopnew2514]

Creepy music in the background, sounds just like a scene from silence of the lambs! 😮

[@user-zp9br7jk9k]

as much as i think this woman is an awful parent.. i could not convict her of manslaughter... she didn't kill anyone, or tell anyone to kill anyone.. she did give her underage son a gun - she did ignore the 'signs' - she did ignore her son - he did have access to the guns... all that, she's guilty of. but manslaughter? it's common to teach your underage child how to handle a gun, especially if there is one in the house.

[@barbaracollins5605]

The wording you need to read on the indictment. One does not need to tell someone to kill

[@annebosworth7048]

Her being guilty of what u just pointed out makes her guilty of involuntary manslaughter...

[@juliaroberts-felonystopnew2514]

She bought and taught her troubled son a gun and how to use it, and didn't keep it secured! She is guilty as charged!

[@libertyna933]

He was actively psychotic though hallucinating and delusional. They bought him a gun and didn't lock it up. They taught him to shoot. Ultimately it's up to the jury who may convict on a lesser charge

[@LucasMoore88]

😂😂😂 you LITERALLY just described manslaughter sweetheart 👀👀😂

[@mistymac9345]

Why did you approach the house with guns drawn? 😮

[@jonnsmusich]

If you know the statistics of cop deaths and injuries in "domestic" calls, you wouldn't ask.

[@mistymac9345]

@@jonnsmusich that was a facetious comment

[@jonnsmusich]

No it wasn't. Not at all. Do you know what facetious means? And look up the data. It is available. It is quite clear why "officer safety" is a thing. Also look up "vacuous".@@mistymac9345

[@micheleshertenlieb4856]

Why isnt she showing any emotion??? The families that lost loved ones, her son, wtf she is a horrible person!

[@turtletruth]

Most parents ignore their teenage sons and daughters adolescent wants and rebellious desires, its every families number #1 problem, teenagers.... Have you ever had a child go through the teenager rebellious years??? There are no proper signs or answers in which to follow.... Michigan may become the most legally dangerous state for parents to have children!

[@Idkwhatsupwithyou]

Or don’t give guns to teenagers, dummy.

[@julianyc422]

You are all over the place commeting on youtube with this. Are you her lawyer? She bougth her troubled minor son a gun and didn't tell the school while looking at test answers that just had sketches of a gun, bleeding people and HELP ME. Maybe this is the NRA commenting. Some lying fear monger's comment. Did you buy your troubled high schooler a gun and not get them health insurance too?!?! Do nothing when they say they see things and do you live in a trashed house?

[@julianyc422]

I know. you work for the defense as an assistant, your job is to spread propaganga to pretend that other parents buy their mentally ill children guns and live in a trashed house and don't report to the school, your teen owns a gun that looks JUST like the picture he drew.

[@Moe1313-2]

Didn’t the kid tell his mom he was depressed?

[@maureens100]

not me....I snooped...saw pictures drawn..poems made and diaries written...oh yes...only way to know what was really happening...no regrets at all. they are 3 grown now..parents themselves ..I endured no arrests...no guns...no suicides...no robbers or rapists...drug addicts or murderers....Key....KNOW what they are doing. These are the years you do NOT ignore them and let them spend their lives in their rooms....nope.

[@courtneyratliff3684]

How some can sound so coherent makes me wonder the truth behind everyones mask of satisfying another being... Makes trusting no one mouth possible....

[@courtneyratliff3684]

You not going to keep fighting this for your entrainment of hearing your voice blocking mine from being free then now that's what I wanted know the truth.... I have maybe a solid 29 years left give back to life stop it..... Sitting in someone's face n lieing is hard

[@courtneyratliff3684]

Now their in a worse prison believing their fighting but their only fighting their moment saw differently.. reaching their why... Figure that in your comments...