Game of Thrones - How to Ruin a Great Show

[@colinmitchell1276]

If you think about it, this show ended in the most Game of Thrones way possible. But instead of killing off a bunch of well loved characters it killed off the whole fanbase.

[@colinmitchell1276]

@curio honestly, I have rewatched it a few times and I just skipped the last 2 seasons no problem. The shittiness of Seasons 7 and 8 don't diminish the incredible things from the first 6 seasons for me

[@techeepeach9272]

Lol!! Sooo well said!!! I don’t even freaking care about their prequel now. I refuse to watch it.

[@terrymason.yt1232]

@@techeepeach9272 why as the guy above just said the first 6 seasons where still incredible im sure they can do it again in the prequal

[@spirittammyk]

I still think Disney coming to Benioff and Weiss and pitching them the Star Wars trilogy was what started it. Disney execs wanted Game of Thrones to be toast, and what better way then to manipulate the creators into fucking it over.

[@Hashpotato]

'shocked weebay meme' seriously tho spittin straight facts

[@Gravuun]

And now its like GoT never existed. A massive cultural influence vanished into thin air. What a bad ending can do to a show is truly astonishing

[@DanielMartinez-xz8nj]

Influence?

[@Thomas-kj1fk]

Not for those of us who enjoyed it. I loved every minute of it.

[@alirezakhoshird7850]

@@Thomas-kj1fk Well, but most of the viewers hated it

[@minarik01]

this. No one talks about it. No one cares. Its truly amazing how you can kill one of the most influential shows in the history of tv with 6 episodes.

[@nqrtzy8765]

This show used to be referenced CONSTANTLY, it was almost as quotable as Star Wars and Lord of the Rings. Now nobody references it anymore. You’d think if the show ended on good or at least decent terms, people would still reference and joke about it. Literally the only time you hear people talking about Game of Thrones now is when they’re talking about how badly the ending of that show was fucked up

[@ItsMeRhaine]

My biggest issue is that they been talking about “Winter is Coming” since episode 1 and Winter is over in one episode???

[@Bradley_Lute]

I'm assuming that it will be an entire novel for the Whyte story line to wrap up and an entire book for the Dany v Cersei to wrap up. And like huge 1000+ books for both. So the books seem like they are on the right track in terms of pacing and being more consistent. Edit. I'm sure he's fretting quite a bit over wrapping up in 2 novels time. He may have to cut books in half again. Did that work for the last two novels? Yes and no.

[@MohiyuddinShaikh]

@@Bradley_Lute Have you seen GRRM. That dude is going to die before he finish his books. All of us will be left disappointed.

[@igiveyouthefacts]

I agree they built up the Night King for so long just for him to die in episode 3. They should have made him the last villain to die not Cersei

[@Bradley_Lute]

@@igiveyouthefacts I'm assuming they were following the way things happen in the unwritten books. Winds of winter is likely the big showdown with the White walkers and a dream of spring is likely the showdown with Cersei. GRRM got the idea from lord of the rings. The issue though, is that they compressed both of these plots into the last two seasons but gave too much weight to the whites and didn't have enough time to flesh out the battle for Kings Landing.

[@e.g.4483]

Climate change. Duh /s

[@midnightcharasmr]

The thing that makes me so angry about this show is how pointless and useless everything surrounding John Snow turned out to be. John IS the song of Ice and Fire. He is the child of Lyanna Stark (Ice) and Rheagar Targaryen (Fire). The entire story is built upon his secret lineage, the fact that he is the true heir to the Iron throne by a legitimate but secret marriage. This reveal should have been MASSIVE. His ability to ride a dragon should have been a monumental scene, similar to the type of scene that Dany was given. The revelation of his lineage was THE revelation of the show, he has a higher claim than even Dany; TEN YEARS IN THE MAKING - but it was diminished significantly. The prophecies, him being brought back to life, The Prince That Was Promised - this all goes absolutely nowhere, and had no purpose whatsoever in his destiny. And the final nail in the coffin is that John returns to the fucking wall like the nobody bastard he started as. Everything about his arc amounts to NOTHING. What a trash ending. An ending so bad it managed to undo the entire legacy of what would have been the greatest show of all time.

[@mirziyob]

oh and he went back to a wall that was there to prevent the walkers from going south, now that there's no more walkers wtf do they need the wall or people to watch it?? it has a massive hole in it and it was created with magic, so they couldn't make it again and why would they if there's no more zombie?? all the wildlong were already south. nothing makes sense nothingggg

[@UtikaCollar]

Absolutely, at least have him lead the white walkers like Aragorn did for the dead and then have them battle it put with Daenarys and the dragons. Then it would be a TRUE song of ice and fire.

[@Olorin-wp9it]

But the strong career waman must be higher to screw up the culture even more.

[@gloriaregali9090]

Targaryens lost their right to the Throne with Baratheon’s Rebellion.

[@zave_02]

@@mirziyobwasn’t he sent to the wall for his vein of killing danny by the unsullied

[@briansabogal1879]

In 36 years I have NEVER seen something that was such a phenomenon, leave the public zeitgeist so quickly. This is a show that took over media around the world and yet here we are, barely a year later, and it’s almost never mentioned anymore. It goes to show how a messed up ending can completely ruin a piece of works legacy.

[@leviathan5095]

So fucking true

[@toufiq309]

ya no joke... even mentioning Game of thrones at this point is cringey af.

[@jking4973]

DarksUper3DgeLord Toufiq not at all. Even with the ending, seasons 1-6 were so well done the show remains one of the best shows of all time. People who think otherwise, or were that disappointed by the ending, never understood the show in the first place. And your comment confirms you are one of those people. If you really understood the show, you wouldn’t say, “cringey af”.

[@Jamesmac95]

@@jking4973 imagine if they ended breaking bad by curing Walter whites cancer, having his family all love him and go and live together in a massive mansion and its all fine. That's how badly they ended game of thrones, you may disagree but that's my opinion. If you enjoyed the ending then fair play to you 👏

[@CamJames]

@@Jamesmac95 y'all are trying to speak logically to a stan account with a Daenerys avatar.

[@as7river]

D&D didn't just kill the show, they killed its rewatchability. If the show had lived up to the hype until the very ending, it would've become a timeless classic. But thanks to D&D, rewatching it, knowing how it ends, will never be worth it.

[@Ava-ns4go]

Can confirm... I was ok with the battle; except arya killing the night king when that was JOHN'S story. But killing the dragon out of NOWHERE? Now jamie? And now missandei. I just cannot. When they cut the scene right before Bran tells arya and sansa about Jon... This is the hottest pile of fucking garbage I've seen and I regret rewatching the show. Its just shit scene after shit scene, after shit scene. There's no moment of sweetness, satisfaction. If you're thinking of rewatching it... don't.

[@spirittammyk]

@@Ava-ns4go I rewatch it, then I stop at about season 8, episode 2 and then make up my own ending in my head.

[@juanpablomorenopitti]

Not only that. They kind of ruined the book ending as well, as if the ending is the same, there is no surprise :(

[@koretmulder6316]

D&D didn't make the series "jump the shark", because that phrase implies pushing an established plot structure too far. They simply didn't give a fuck, They ignored established plot structures (or didn't understand them), and so blithely wiped out seasons-long arches, as well as all seven seasons of previous, detailed plot development. They weren't interested, and and they didn't even bother pretending they were. It's still *so* frustrating. It feels like spending seven years investing in a special, beloved pet project, then at the last minute having some disinterested expert come in, take control, drop a massive, steaming dump on it, and walk away.

[@DJMarcO138]

Truth. I wanted to rewatch to see the early seasons, but then I got mad that the end sucked and I just didn't bother, lol.

[@cvox607]

why did yara laugh at sam for suggesting that the king should be chosen by the people....when the ironborn chose their leaders exactly like that.......why did she agree to listen to tyrion , the one who betrayed danerys.....when she was still loyal to danerys??? why did dorn...the only kingdom that didn't suffer from any big casualties...that probably have the biggest and most well rested army and have the most supplies.....agree to be ruled by some kid in a wheelchair??....their ansector looked at a dragon in the eyes and refused to submit why are all the other kingdoms just chill with the north being independent?? the greyjoys had a whole rebellion to be free of the seven kingdom rule but now they're ok with being ruled by some cripple kid they don't know ?? why the fuck did greyworm not kill the one who killed his queen on the spot....but butchered some lannisters soldiers instantly?? nothing make sense and it was only one scene lmao

[@halismeful]

Ironborn have captains vote, not general populace, so effectively the same as they did with Bran.

[@crab7405]

C Vox I stopped asking questions about this show. I already know it's just writers not following up or looking back at what they wrote.

[@VulturePilot]

Yara forgot that she herself asked Dany for Iron island independence and she just stays quiet when Sansa demands the same thing

[@edwardsillitto802]

tbf grey worm couldn't kill jon because the northern armies would just start a war with the unsullied

[@manlad23]

@@edwardsillitto802 What northern armies? They barely have like a 100 men

[@rodanhibiki5980]

The show runners straight rushed to end it because they were set to make Star Wars movies. They fucked GOT up so bad that they lost Star Wars

[@sevgar5128]

I really like that fact They ruined perphaps the biggest, most viewed, fantasy show on tv to make Star wars movies only to do nothing in the end and abandoning starwars lol

[@Darthrein]

tbh Star Wars sequels are just as much fucked up. Its poetic like how two different culturer phenomenon got fucked up on a huge scale due to its bad writing.

[@cashgililland7952]

@@sevgar5128they didn’t abandon it they got told basically to fuck off after they gave us what they did with GOT. That’s what I’ve interpreted at least

[@lsebastian9086]

To recall a saying on my sector, they ended without the bread and without the cheese

[@theofrastusbombastus9226]

Love how dragons can understand symbolism but can’t see hundreds of pirate ships with massive dragon killing crossbows mounted in the front

[@rangoooo2312]

We got a good meme out of it though. Stupid pointy chair!!!!

[@anakin-is-panakin]

Dragons have better media literacy than vision

[@tysonleblanc8862]

Exactly like wtf were they just hiding behind the island and all of a sudden SUPRISE!

[@IshtarNike]

Ballistae

[@onlydaprecum]

That moment when the dragon sees it's dead mother and the man that killed her but poignantly understands that the throne was the catalyst behind the thirst for power which drove the destiny of it's characters in the most profound manner ROAR

[@Sekhmet1977]

"the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives" and then all the Starks go solo, are totally alone and separated from one another.

[@aevenstar100]

That right there is why I think the whole ending leans way, WAY too hard on the 'bitter' part of bittersweet. Other than minor characters like Bronn or Podrick, the only endings that appear mostly happy are those of the Starks, and specifically Arya and Sansa. But Arya is leaving her family again even though that was the WHOLE point of her storyline in Braavos ("A girl is Arya Stark of Winterfell, and I'm going home"). And Sansa is Queen in the North (which I'll be honest is the only part of the finale that didn't totally piss me off), but she's ruling alone. There are **ZERO** other named characters in the shot with her. Not even Brienne, who was *sworn to Sansa by Catelyn*. But no, she's at the Small Council, I guess because the optics of an all-male council after Cersei and Dany both got the Mad Queen treatment would be bad.

[@heyitsmira17]

Not trying to defend the show (specially as a book reader and Dorne fan), but you've cut the beginning and it IS important. "When winter comes and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives." Winter came and apparently (for the show?) went away, and during this event, the pack was together. After that, it wasn't much needed anymore. However, not even going on about how Winter should last years and years (because there is this doubt about winter - "does winter bring the white walkers, or do they make winter come?"), but there is a lot of symbolism in ASOIAF/GOT about characters and their house sigils. Much like a wolf, Ned Stark was loyal to the only woman he had in his life officially, but the loyalty to his own blood made him lie about it and keep this secret for the rest of his life. Much like wolves, the Starks work better when they're together and in the North, their home. When they get separated, even though it's not Winter yet, things go terribly wrong. If they had stayed in the North together and Ned refused being Hand, none of them would have to die. In fact, the North would have Ned, Robb etc to lead them to the war against the White Walkers. Separating the pack after they tried to hard to go back home and stick together just seems.... wrong. Arya fought so hard to go back to her home, but she just leaves and promises to not come back. Bran isn't even Bran anymore, the little kid who constantly defied rules just to try and see his home and his father again in visions - nothing. Jon - yeah, he was never really a Stark, but Winterfell was his home and he was so ready to break his vows and fight besides Robb for it. He had the North AND the Stark blood in him, but I guess he had no choice over his own ending bc the show didn't know what to do with him after shitting on the idea of him being a protagonist because fuck logic, we want to subvert expectations!!! Sansa is the only one who actually stood by the North and her home, and being honest - she never even liked it as a kid. She was never too close to her brothers anyways. She was constantly shown as more of a trout than a wolf, and Lady dying so early set the tone for it, but I can kinda accept the show's choices since they gave her Jeyne Poole's arc. Idk man, this whole symbolism just got thrown in the dumpster and it makes me sad too.

[@clem72tro]

But the pack can't survive anyways, there will never have others Starks because there is no male Stark who can father children.

[@liaspooked4980]

@@aevenstar100 spit the truth ,my friend

[@runninginsept]

They go their own ways until they all come back together in season 8. And the Starks survive.

[@joshuaplank4001]

Everyone: "what was the point of the white walkers in the show?" ... D&D: "we kind of forgot the white walkers were in the show."

[@stephaniefromvirginia8744]

What was the point of R+L=J? That was the center of a main plot and he ends up back in the stupid North? He didn’t even get to kill the Knight King and return to the North. What was the point of Bran (Until we could flashback and see Jon’s parentage), his story is the WORST. Jon AND Sam have better stories than Bran, and everyone else actually. Damn, Davos has a better story.

[@AK-dd9od]

So apparently, they should have ended the series at episode 3 of Season 8, in order to preserve the importance and centrality of the Night King to the story? That would have solved that problem, right?

[@Catubrannos]

@@stephaniefromvirginia8744 What was the point of the Golden Company? All the gold looted from High Garden was used to pay for them. Now there's an investment that went up in smoke.

[@Person01234]

@@stephaniefromvirginia8744 The fucking direwolves have a better story than bran.

[@54markl]

D&D: We thought we were writing Harry Potter and a good plot didn’t matter. Imagine our surprise in Season Eight when we finally realized we were writing Game of Thrones. It was like, Hey wait, Game of What?

[@smashtoad]

Just stopped by in 2024 to be pissed again. Bravo.

[@Katzenkaiser4]

yeah we will never fully recover from this lol

[@smashtoad]

@@Katzenkaiser4 yup. I told everyone who would listen that it was the best television show ever made... and it wasn't even close. That was somewhere in season 5....ha.

[@Infiltrator_]

What if they redo season 8 and then go all the way up to season 10? Sounds good but highly unlikely to happen.

[@Katzenkaiser4]

@@Infiltrator_it´s time to move on brother. the only hope left is martin finishing the damn books

[@Nathan-jh1ho]

​@@Katzenkaiser4which will happen when the sun rises in the west and sets in the east. When the seas go dry and the mountains blow in the wind like leaves

[@274pacific]

“They ran outta books” pretty much sums it up.

[@WiiSage]

@@JinMeowsoon so they just stop giving a shit ? that sounds even worst than them running out of books

[@sergiomendoza4040]

RandomTipsyLemon hellll no lol there’s so much shit they could’ve adapted into the show that would’ve given them exponentially more nuance then what they had in season 8. Young griff and the Blackfyres are cut out entirely, lady stone heart is cut, pretty much everything about Eurons entire character is cut out, Victorian isn’t even in the fucking show which sucks, the entirety of Sansas storyline in feast for crows is cut out in order to remarry her to Ramsey so she can be raped. There’s so much shit that they left out of the show that would’ve not only given them nuance but it also would’ve just made the show longer giving George an opportunity to actually finish the books or at least give them more detailed outlines of what to do with the later seasons. Instead they rushed past pretty much all of feast for crows and Dance of Dragons.

[@spooplegeist5260]

That’s no excuse. They’re supposed to be writers. Write.

[@henryredcoat3522]

@@JinMeowsoon I know right? I've been reading the last 2 books and I don't remember any scenes from those books in the show

[@sydnitheromantictaylor112]

@@sergiomendoza4040 exactly I hated that they omitted storylines from a AFFC and ADWD, if they didn't want to do the amount of seasons needed to fully adapt the books then they shouldn't have been given this project (GRRM knew they didn't want as many seasons as he thought they needed so he shouldn't have given it to them) or they should've handed it to someone else who still had passion for the story.

[@MrMysterioso]

"Jon is sad because everyone is mad at each other" I burst out laughing at that

[@danielhiguita5511]

@Michael Artemis They didn't have the balls to release an inside episode, so we will never know how they will justify that.

[@obsessivefangirl5055]

I read that in David Benioff's voice. Just like when he says "Dany kinda forgot"

[@danman1789]

*sits there with a confused face staring at all the sassy women in his life*

[@georgeclooney6208]

Me too 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, we should do a parody together of this bullshit 😅😅

[@jackmemphis777]

I was laughing so hard and now reading your comment Im laughing about it again. Jons gloomy face when he says that was priceless

[@AbyssViber1028]

Reason why Dany couldn’t see the iron fleet: “SHE FORGOT”...... many brain cells were lost at that moment

[@AK-dd9od]

She might have vaguely heard about the Iron Fleet when the Sand Snakes and Yara were captured by them. She very likely did not know that upgraded, more advanced versions of the Scorpion anti-Dragon ballistae were installed on the ships of Euron's fleet. The harsh consequences of not having good intel. Perhaps Bran has only so much synaptic bandwidth and didn't have time to review those time files, particularly since he was preoccupied with events in Winterfell.

[@t.y2974]

A K this would be true, except for the fact that the master of whispers TOLD her about it, and her advisors even convinced her to not launch a preemptive attack against the fleet, it’s just awful writing by D&D

[@54markl]

Mr. Benioff, or Weiss, or whatever you are, you forgot you were a writer.

[@heyheyheyheyheyhey76]

What's awful is that everything else this season was amazing. The writing was the only aspect that was a disappointment. The acting, music, cinematography, visuals and action were all incredible, arguably the best of all the seasons. If it weren't for the bullshit writing this season would have been the best of them all, the velocity would have surpassed everything else in TV history.

[@rydermccall3590]

I’d rather they made the excuse, “Itvwas a surprise ambush.”

[@Nyzer_]

"I'm sure in a few years, we'll get the real, official ending" Oh, you sweet summer child.

[@vitoc8454]

A Dream of A Dream of Spring

[@youreasnake4548]

We got another show, it was just House of the Dragon not Asoiaf... and it sucks as much as season 8

[@alyssaj8779]

In every interview about season 8, the cast looks like they're being held hostage

[@jjgen736]

Tara Jones leading up to season 7 I remember almost every cast member was saying best season to date. Not One cast member said this about s8 except Emilia in a sarcastic way.

[@ziva9266]

That one Peter Dinklage interview was hard to watch. It was so awkward and obvious he didn't mean what he was saying

[@redners11]

@@jjgen736 I think she was speaking from the viewpoint of her character. Same with the other actors who said it was disappointing. I could be wrong but actors don't usually shit talk things they're in. It's just bad business ethics, especially before something is released

[@ziva9266]

@Cherry Muse There were HBO snipers aiming at his head. It is known.

[@ChunkyJo]

I really enjoyed this last season. Now I know why it was terrible and awful. But I enjoyed it nonetheless.

[@zwergz1122]

Arya went west, Jon went north, Drogon went east and the show went south

[@MrEnKaye]

HAHA I actually spat my tea out 😂

[@ajanaya8055]

Somebody already posted this before you somewhere.

[@isaacwalters8210]

@@ajanaya8055 yeah on r/freefolk

[@MrCCFCforLife]

Jon shoulda just gone down on Dany and all woulda gone well

[@anthonydominguez4744]

I’ve never seen this before but I’m almost positive you’re not clever enough for it . Probably stole it from Reddit

[@nqrtzy8765]

It’s crazy how this show had SUCH a bad ending that it literally erased itself from pop culture. This show went from “mainstream, one of the most popular TV shows, almost as quotable as Star Wars and Lord of the Rings, most people know about it” to “mostly forgotten, hasn’t been popular in years, literally never referenced anymore, only actually remembered by disgruntled people who used to be fans”. It was so shitty it literally undid the show’s entire legacy and reputation, now it’s just “that one show that everyone used to watch”. I don’t think a bad ending on that scale has been replicated before, nor do I think it will be again. It’s THE most infamous show ending ever.

[@Moesie]

Imma gonne watch game of thrones for the first time today wish me luck

[@sydnitheromantictaylor112]

@@Moesie man don't waste your time but hey you were warned

[@Moesie]

@@sydnitheromantictaylor112 i did but I did speed up a little, skipped all the talks. I kept the excellent scene of the beatifull ladies 😂👍. So it took me like 10 minutes to watch each episode and the fighting scenes. But i skipped all the talks

[@librarygary1618]

It's nearly identical to how Dexter was some of the best TV ever capped off by a horribly written ending. Only on an infinitely larger scale.

[@librarygary1618]

@@Moesie incredible troll lmao

[@Bored_Barbarian]

35:43 5 years later…still no sequel book

[@buggy89]

😢

[@norton734]

For real...

[@diamanruby9791]

Real

[@sameerkashyap1750]

I finished the show in 10 days and I am so disappointed. I can only imagine how the people who followed it for 5-6 years must have felt

[@sandman_b]

dude I just finished the series myself for the first time within like 8 weeks. I can’t even imagine the pain after 8 years of being invested. So underwhelming :(

[@stuffylamb3420]

I literally don't watch TV shows anymore as they are released because of this show. I just wait for them to be over so I can binge them. I got so invested in GoT over those years only to get crushed the last season. Never again lol.

[@jmz2144]

GoT does not deserve the criticism it receives, I'm glad I am one of the people that actually likes season 7 and 8

[@lukas6610]

at some point when the lanisters layed down thier swords. It wouldve been the perfect ending if arya killed cercei and the clegange brothers killing each other. Maybe have jaimy fight with tyrions sellsword (i dont remmber his name) and then maybe the dragon queen just returning to the east with all her loyal people because she realised she shouldnt be king of westeros and it wouldve been perfect

[@hopobilbow1551]

Bad, Sameer. Real damn bad.

[@aviation11000]

The real problem is that as a writer it's impossible to write characters that are smarter than you are.

[@yodelingshrimp8316]

I feel this cuz one character in my book im writing is suppose to be the smartest person in the world but im just a stupid high school kid so writing is kind of hard

[@villanjo]

This is a very underrated comment.

[@omnianimator8468]

@@yodelingshrimp8316 Have you ever watch death note? I hear it's a great anime, I'm not saying fashion your character off of it but it should at least help.

[@yodelingshrimp8316]

@@omnianimator8468 ya i need to finish it and i get what you mean

[@yodelingshrimp8316]

@Cthulhu All-Spark ill keep that in mind. thx

[@WoodyWoodson1984]

Tyrion: "Bran, you should be king". Bran: "I can't be king". Tyrion: "But you must be king". Bran: "K" Bran: "Tyrion, you will be hand". Tyrion: "I can't be hand". Bran: "But you must be hand". Tyrion: "K"

[@aditidorle1448]

😂😂😂

[@eric-vu1jy]

POOPY

[@rohitsaroj6637]

😂😂

[@maartenboy37]

Pure gold.

[@DrRAZI99]

You sir won the internet

[@juse4507]

Cerseis death was the biggest L of the whole thing. Ruined multiple arch’s all in one unsatisfying roof collapse… the least dramatic d***th in television history

[@paulcarlsen5787]

For me as a new watcher this is the complaint that didn’t bother me that much. The entire show we see the most beloved characters get executed in the most excruciating way possible, so I thought it was a nice touch that the most despicable character of all is the only one that gets a quick painless death in the arms of someone they love

[@Mask_Maker1]

What was the point of censoring the second 'death' if you said it already?

[@mrblue___]

I just finished watching it for the first time and I could’ve sworn I seen a comment before I watched the finale saying Cersei was gonna be killed by Jaime 😅 That would’ve been interesting

[@rob_1616]

@@mrblue___ I JUST finished as well! Glad I’m not the only one 😅 (was very disappointed with the ending)

[@crazygemini82]

​@mrblue___ that comment probably came from books but it wouldve worked with the show too imo. When Cercei meets the woods witch as a child in the book part of her prophecy is that she will be killed by her Valonqar, which means little brother in High Valyrian. Of course Cercei believed it to be Tyrion but we discover Cercei was born before Jaime so he technically is her younger brother too. I was always hoping Jaime died at Winterfell and Arya takes his face and kills Cercei.

[@carwyn3691]

Instead of Danny "kinda forgetting" the fleet they should have killed the dragon in the attack on Kings Landing, the literal next episode, and use it as a catalyst to her destroying the city. It's such a simple fix it's crazy no one thought about it.

[@jolaude9578]

Kishibe Rohan that’s exactly what I thought after watching episode 5. In Addition, they also should have killed missandei at the start of episode 5

[@gs7828]

Yes, that would have worked flawlessly! Don't know about the "mad ruler" thing, but it would have motivated the slaughter.

[@andreashofmann4556]

Even with the story they went with, all they had to do was put the ships there in the open. Dany sees them and flies in to torch them (because that was the plan all along) and once she is close they uncover the weapons that were hidden and shot the dragon down.

[@gaio9255]

Are you the Real Rohan Kishibe?

[@muthut1000]

Kishibe Rohan they should have had the bells ring then Cersei blow up wildfire in the city killing Missandei and a hidden ballista kills rhaegal. But even then I only see her burning the RK.

[@captainwonderbar1657]

Bran did nothing for a whole season? Bran did nothing for the entire show.

[@lordofcastamere9376]

The only thing he did was seeing jamie fucking his sister to start the conflict between stark and lanistar. But it was jaime who throwed bran out of the window. So dissapointing

[@zaladaneifyable]

@@lordofcastamere9376 so, he could have died after the first episode and nothing important would have changed...

[@PringleandCheese]

Dude this was the BEST SEASON ever! How can you disrespect a character like that?! What do you mean by Bran did nothing? He sat and flew crows hey! -_-

[@PringleandCheese]

@Lizzy Swan Great character development exactly! Finally someone who understands! Bran falls out of the window learns how to turn his eyes white, gets Summer and Hodor killed, again flies crows, looks emotionless etc etc. He has the greatest story of all. All hail Bran the Broken🙌🙌

[@nicplaybr1243]

WHO THE FUCK IS BRAN? WAS HE IN THE SERIES AT ALL?

[@collinwatts9390]

Poor Emilia. Every interview she is just so clearly upset about how it ended

[@LaxonPfc]

Out of all the characters her got destroyed and ruined the most. She played as Daenerys for what, 8 years ??? And thats how her character arc ends ?? She becomes Hitler and kills whole city of innocent people for no legit reason? I would be very upset too.

[@user-ho9nu6ir7f]

Acting got better as the plot got worse each season

[@roxtechs]

She deserved another season or extra episodes to do her justice but nope.

[@juice_box108]

​@@roxtechs P

[@sandrovoshart8127]

She deserved a better ending and kit did to

[@GenocideLv]

28:13 you cannot call out plot armor and not include the scene of Sam being under like 15 wights flailing like a fish and none of them are able to hurt him. The same wights we've seen swallow people like an avalanche, killing them in seconds.

[@elizabethp.5448]

My biggest issue is the fact that Arya can literally impersonate anyone, so when she and Sansa successfully plot to kill Littlefinger (the only person who played all sides), they didn’t take his face. She could have easily impersonated Littlefinger, sneak into the Red Keep, kill Cersei for Dany in exchange for the north’s liberation and everything would have been fine.

[@he.236]

Arya only face change other body cant

[@aarnetahtimeri4890]

Sounds just like riding the eagles in LoTR

[@h1n1worm]

@@he.236 rly? it doesnt stop her to "be" Walder Frey

[@oussama1811]

imagine if that happened and Arya encountered Jaime (who already escaped to be with Cersei) and they dueled, would be much better than the euron Vs Jaime crap

[@princedeluca27]

🤣😂 you and all those 873 likes are retards!! you guys miss all the details. how the hell would Littlefinger sneak into the red keeps when he is public enemy. you retards forgot he declared partners with house stark back in season ^ episode 10. yall all retards

[@Funkymuffins123XP]

"I DONT WANT THA THROOOONE!! SHES MA KWEEEN!" -Jon for all of szn 8

[@xthesayuri5756]

My Brudas where is da kweeen?

[@VideoVigilante]

the spiciest taco 😂so true

[@primalrex1905]

Did anyone else just automatically read that with an Arnold Schwarzenegger voice?

[@phiwokuhleqwabe2097]

Someone visits r/freefolk

[@MidnightatMidian]

@@slyceth You mean the scene when the mountain make the head of the Viper explode?? This was the best scene ever aired on TV's. Grow up, it was never meant to be a show for little children.

[@cvox607]

*tyrion :* we should all be ruled by this creepy kid in wheelchair over there....bran the broken *literally everyone who isn't from the north :* who??

[@zoomynumie7344]

C Vox yea that’s basically what happened and also you forgot they voted for him king even though they know nothing about him

[@Zorklis]

He's Ned Stark's son, people know him

[@lucianovargas479]

Not to mention about who the fuck tells all Westeros about Bran being the Three Eyes Raven and how did they know what does three eyes raven mean?

[@PittsburghSonido]

WHOMST?

[@VulturePilot]

Someone who literally said “I can’t relate to people, I mostly live in the past now”

[@spookypig8043]

One of my biggest pet peeves was Sansa doing nothing in the crypt when she was given a knife and there were people getting massacred down there

[@hybridbutterfly3908]

My issue with that is when Jon was King in the North she heard him order every male & female to train in combat. She's 5'9" (taller than Jon & Arya) and able bodied and it was an apocalypse and she had people who could've taught her at least the basics of self defense but she refused.

[@valance10]

What I want to know is how the fuck skeletons managed to smash through solid stone

[@thereallofigirl]

Out of everything that happened in that episode that’s what annoyed you the most 💀

[@virendradeshmukh2935]

​@@valance10Lol 😹😹😹

[@NoviLyric]

SAME

[@SuperMistermistery]

Your editing skills are just impressive. The episode just premiered yesterday.

[@biffyguybiffy6292]

The plot got leaked and he wrote based on that.

[@christmastiger]

@@biffyguybiffy6292 Yeah but there's still adding all of the clips in, and even the leaks I saw weren't exactly enough for him to talk about every character's end.

[@VinceTheCreatorr]

He's obviously read the books...oh wait

[@seanbirch9663]

@@jc_3679 It still takes the most time to cut all the clips together! Especially if you're also including older ones.

[@defenderofminorities3056]

Biffyguy Biffy nigga why you got an answer for everything?

[@Round_Slinger]

I still greatly appreciate Kit for being so honest in the interview. Many of his cast mates were afraid to speak their minds.

[@JoeyAGamer]

Most who didn't spoke their minds were not MAIN protagonists, they have to be moderate until it's their time to speak. That can end a career.

[@dysmissme7343]

I regret to inform you that I’m pretty sure that was edited 😅

[@mashedpotato4465]

@@dysmissme7343 it wasnt. google the real interview and u see the interviewrs reaction and he tries to save it by saying it is also epic.

[@tvdforever5147]

@@JoeyAGamer Dany was a main character but she was too afraid to be honest. You can check her interview, the way she said "Best season ever" proves she was afraid. I appreciate Kit for his honesty.

[@shuturmouthkeeptlkn9384]

@@mashedpotato4465 yeah remembering those interviews now they knew the ending was shit

[@hiranmaydas4921]

Breaking Bad had the most satisfying ending of all shows. And that series never had any books or material to adapt from. You just need better writers, that's all.

[@buddharocks492]

Breaking Bad is also the greatest show of all time.. GoT tried but failed..

[@m_ackerman91]

There are only 5 characters also and a very common storyline(selling drugs to help your family), GoT is way more complex

[@MrWhite-ru3oz]

@@m_ackerman91 Ah yes breaking bad only has 5 characters. All the other cast were ghosts all along.

[@viz4884]

@@MrWhite-ru3oz Lmao it says something when people are still pissed about game of thrones

[@PolishGod1234]

@@m_ackerman91 GoT is more complex??? Bwahahaha, lol. It might be on much bigger scale - but Breaking Bad is far more complex and deep show. you can even make Connection with fucking God or Jesus with some characters. Fucking swimming pools have depth behind them.

[@olive9964]

I hate how they butchered Jaime's character in the show. The whole point of his arc in the books, the losing of his sword hand, was the fact that he was a man who relied on his martial prowess to solve every problem he ever encountered. After his maiming, he was unable to rely on violence to solve his problems so he now had to learn how to solve problems diplomatically; like his father and brother. Combine this with his crisis of honor, and his realization of Cersei's true nature made for a very compelling character arc in the books. But in the show he just reverts to solving problems with violence, the writers kept putting Jaime into fights and battles for some reason, even though he is terrible with his left hand. He never falls out of love with Cersei in the show like he does in the books, so his character just stagnates until he eventually dies.

[@Cadrieldur]

*Tyrion:* It's not for you to decide. *Grey Worm:* YOU ARE NOT HERE TO SPEAK! *Tyrion:* 'he speaks for 3 minutes and decides the Fate of Westeros'

[@bradheadband8015]

this was the craziest bit for me,he just killed a queen grey worms saviour,and he is told not to speak as he is a prisoner...then he decides all of their fates and everyone agrees its up to him?????wtf

[@sriramkailasam1055]

Grey worm: *pikachu face*

[@nubiannile4606]

Brad Headband I know, why would anyone listen to anymore of Tyrion’s bad advice.

[@tomchch]

Bran: I dont want to be king Tyrion: Bran pls be king Bran: Why do you think i came all this way

[@Drakkiore]

bravo dabid, bravo

[@MiloDC]

"He feels like a guy who just wandered onto the set from another show." Best description of Euron Greyjoy ever.

[@shacklesjpg]

Milo Cooper tbh he’s like the opposite version of Daryl Dixon

[@heathbarnhart1092]

Eroun Greyjoy is the Creed Bratton of GoT

[@newera478]

Pilou (Euron's actor) was allowed to choose his own costume after his first appearance. He wanted to look like a rockstar (he said so in an interview). Pilou's train of thought was similar to D&D's.

[@SHA8UTIE]

He killed some of the worst characters on the show so that gives him a semi-pass for me.

[@Davidbmr1970]

But what show? My guess is Black Flag.

[@Jacob-jg6cd]

I love Emilia Clarke for that interview. “Best season ever” *cringe face* 😂

[@alexfurnas1263]

Big props to Nathalie Emmanuel keeping it completely straight faced knowing she wants a career after this

[@marlondasilva9192]

yeah they were just taking the piss at this point.

[@sherlocksmuuug6692]

Not as good as Peter Dinklage's "A sniper is pointing a gun to my head, please help"-face, when he was obligated to praise D&D for their 'skill'.

[@HurricaneDDragon]

Jacob I feel so bad for her.

[@whodatninja439]

I may hate Dany, but i love Emilia Clarke so much, she's a national treasure, a gift to humanity

[@Eniril1]

As disappointing as the last seasons were i think my biggest letdown was Selmy's death. Here's a man who can win 1v1 against Brienne, the Hound, Jaime, the Mountain, Oberyn, Jon & Robert and who could still very possibly kill half of them if they all banded together against him, and he dies getting shoved around by a mob of paper masked nobodies. Shame.

[@Square-ow7oq]

It was when i tapped out. For me, 😊it was the first deathbon the show that felt badly written and kinda dumb.

[@ItsAv3rageGamer]

@@Square-ow7oq He's still alive in the books too.

[@vitoc8454]

@@ItsAv3rageGamer GRRM / D&D: "Don't you hear me? You're dead." Ser Barristan Selmy: "What listens but never hears? A knight of the Kingsguard."

[@ItsAv3rageGamer]

@@vitoc8454 just realised too what even happened to everyone left in Mereen in the show? Guess they don’t care Dany was killed?

[@Mr.Sandman...]

EXACTLY

[@michaelg4490]

I had no idea David Benioff actually wrote that Wolverine movie. That should've been a major red flag

[@kevinprehm]

It explains so much, doesn't it

[@kevingb6778]

Wow no wonder. .

[@SimoPortti]

I bet he doesn't announce it everywhere.

[@CocoBanaka]

D&D always be known as "WOW" to "Ohh shit."

[@tonyiommi2380]

"that wolverine movie" everybody knows what you're talking about automatically lol

[@semperludens9241]

7 years: Winter is coming 5 seconds: *Winter left the chat*

[@scottbruckner4653]

After season 8: SPRING HAS COME!

[@JackRendar]

*Winter is going home to Rethink its Life.*

[@semperludens9241]

@@JackRendar Winter: "Screw you guys, I'm going home."

[@kikmoe2664]

Winter was coming Winter Came Winter saw it was not okay Winter said : NOT TODAY

[@123benley]

winter picked up his ball and said screw you guys im going home

[@HierophanticRose]

Imagine if D&D had gone the mange/anime route and gave us a bunch of beach and hot springs episodes until books caught up

[@SchrollShepard]

I'm not even sure that would be worse, actually. p.s. Manga don't do that since they don't have to wait for any books to catch up

[@HierophanticRose]

@@SchrollShepard Yea thats what I meant with 'manga/anime' namely talking about the anime adaptations of manga

[@CalSprigley]

Weeb smh

[@tessieract]

@@SchrollShepard untrue! A lot of Japanese light novels are adapted into manga while the LN is still running. An example of this is The Devil Is A Part-Timer. Not all anime originate from manga :)

[@SchrollShepard]

@@tessieract I never said all anime comes from manga, what are you talking about, friend? You're definitely right, but generally speaking a manga won't have anything to catch up to, because chances are it's the original source. Thanks for the correction, however.

[@Skippy-di5je]

I also never understood grey worm in the end. He actually gains a heart in the later seasons and then decides to kill innocent civilians and poor people even tho that’s what he was against from the beginning. All because he was following his queen. Made no sense

[@RoBert-gj9pl]

They slaughtered missandei and he had to watch. That made some sense at least, season 8 is still doodoo

[@jacobhamblin4255]

Jon being a Targaryen had no impact on the story really

[@MilkPudding]

Absolutely. Except making everyone uncomfortable with the incest

[@oKiirby]

MilkPudding even tho nobody really had a problem with the incest yet it was used as an excuse to create drama

[@marinakotova51]

Night King had no impact on the story either. He was literally there only to make Dany´s army weaker so she can use that as an argument in the fight with Jon. The funniest thing ever that they did not even continue with the whole "i lost my army" considering the fact that she had them again in the KL.

[@simplicit570]

It lets him stealth past Drogon lmao

[@Billyboy2288]

had ahuge impact on dany's decision to destroy King's Landing and her choice to rule through fear instead of love.

[@frederickp]

"Jon is sad that everybody is mad at eachother." Just sums up the season so well

[@tomaszchomicki9794]

Yea, I giggled when he said that.

[@SpookeyClown]

That kind of sums up John's character. My family is mad at each other :( Kings are fighting each other :( People are picking on my friend :( A man is hurting his kids :( Wildings hate me because the Watch loves me :( The Watch hates me because Wildlings love me :( Dragon Queen hates me because the North loves me :( North hates me because the Dragon Queen loves me :( blah blah blah, you get the idea. Such a whimpering little bitch.

[@barka.extreme]

yeah, I kek'd hard

[@colonelcider8292]

reason why Jon should have been king. Jon is better than everyone else cause he's just sad, not mad.

[@jeckjeck3119]

@@colonelcider8292 But he's also not that bright:/ And has very little capable people on his side.

[@NatS3703]

What's sad is that the whole series is tainted- if I watched it again, all the way through I'd be thinking 'that part doesn't matter' 'nothing comes of that story arc' 'that prophecy isn't fulfilled' 'they're debating who should be the ruler but it's going to end with your least favourate character'

[@MosDefnIT88]

It has zero rewatch ability

[@blankblank1284]

Like Doctor Who, now when I watch it I cant help but think back to the absolute unwatchable garbage it became in the Whitticker Era becuase of f***ing Chibnill. Like, imagine a Vanpire Series written by Bram Stoker, and than the company fired him and hired Stephenie Meyer. And changes all Vampire Lore to the Twilight Style Vampires, and just retcon absolutely everything and change the tone of the story. This is Chibnill. Basically Chibnill wrote only like 3 episodes, all of which were terrible in every way. Everyone hated Chibnill and only liked his episodes ironically, a so bad its good kind of thing. Than BBC choose him to be the main writter for 3 bloody seasons, and he retconned everything and trivialized so many plot points. They also fired the Music director, a blood brilliant one that did an amazing job. Than he got replaced with somebody who can only do subpar ambiant music.

[@midshipman8654]

Pudding Brain never watched. If I just stop at season for will it be. All right?

[@shaneman_]

@@midshipman8654 Honestly I'd say watch the whole thing you'll have in my opinion the best 6 seasons of a show ever put on television then you can see 2 seasons of how not to write a story 101. As someone who has watched the first 6 seasons multiple times over before the final 2 came out I can honestly say it's a masterpiece and D&D have a large hand in that but they just really don't know how to finish a story and it's honestly kind of amazing.

[@siegfried8644]

@@shaneman_ I think they actually do, but it kinda felt like they desperatly wanted to end it as fast as possible, because they wanted to move on and do something else

[@owens1710]

This KZbin video was written better then the last season and I’m not joking

[@fixyourposture6959]

First Bran went out the window Then Tommen went out the window Then writing went too

[@michaelxz1305]

Still someone show me how great writing could have saved it with only 6 episodes left.. it couldn't. Especially if they didn't kill off the white walkers so easily

[@tidepride86]

Michael Xz It's a shame the show couldn't : /

[@OnlyRoke]

Ser Writing of House Benioffandweiss is truly the worst character in Game of Thrones.

[@sernoddicusthegallant6986]

The writing went out the window long before Tommen. Remember the bad p00sy, the north remembers

[@fixyourposture6959]

SerNoddicusTheGallant truth!!

[@BranDoesThings]

I'm convinced Dany only burned down the city because they thought it would look cool

[@eonsislept207]

To be fair it looked really fuckin cool.

[@jokersherri8110]

@@eonsislept207 it did look cool But without a real reason

[@neoluthuli3254]

Yep!

[@alexanderzack3720]

they went with the "rule of cool" from pen&papers...... and rolled a nat20

[@darkevilazn]

Most of the things that happened... happened because the writers thought it would look cool.

[@Dardessia]

You forgot about Varys. The ultimate Master of Whisperers, who had outlived at least 4 KINGS, all the while pulling strings and conspiring... Was burnt to death because he didn't spread secrets well enough.

[@deeppurplca]

Kinda true but his death was beacause he trusted tyrion with his secrets, something i dont believe he's ever done with someone else and he got betrayed for it. But his death was really disappointing.

[@mikelmaoski3220]

His death was part of his plan to persuade john that he should be king

[@LJFN213]

and LF

[@FurdgeBJJ]

Sam Cooper or didn’t leave when he knew she was gonna find out. They failed varys and little finger they deserved so much better.

[@kbkman7742]

Varys went from master manipulator, someone who operated vast networks of spies, someone who never revealed much, kept their cards hidden etc. To explicitly revealing plans, having loud conversations with other characters without keeping anything to himself, and then finally even when he knew time was up he just sat there waiting to be killed like a moron.

[@krkngd-wn6xj]

It was a big mistake like 10 years ago when everyone started praising media for "subverting expectations". If the twist can be anticipated from the plot's direction and themes, that's not a mistake, that is good. That means it's a good, coherent story. Subverting those expectations can also be a good thing, if you either 1) subvert common tropes in ways that are logical for your story, or 2) foreshadow a narrative twist subtly enough where it's still there, but may not be apparent on a first watch. 1) is a Ned Stark's death in GoT. 2) is Sixth Sense. The last season (or two) of GoT is just a twist for the sake of a twist, it is the equivalent of wattpad writers throwing a tantrum over someone guessing their ending.

[@DavidCarradinesBelt]

The end of GoT is like when Robot Chicken makes fun of M Night Shamalan when something happens and he pops up to say what a twist

[@thijmen5295]

Exactly. Like if I’m at a restaurant and I tell the waiter “just surprise me” and he comes back and gives me a plate filled with literal shit, then yeah I didn’t expect it, it did indeed surprise me, but that doesn’t mean I’ll happily eat and enjoy my plate of shit

[@thijmen5295]

Remember when the line “winter is coming” was such a well known line in pop-culture and when mentioned everyone knew exactly what you were referencing, even if you didn’t watch the show? Because of this shit this iconic line means absolutely nothing anymore and all it really does is give people PTSD of a horribly written ending

[@angelcrush3320]

yeah so true

[@LizRealGirlBeauty]

Haven't heard it used in years. It's like D&D got pregnant, were super excited to have the baby, took the best care of it they could while it was an infant, but then once it learned to talk back they killed it because it "wasn't fun anymore."

[@gsolier4437]

So very true I have serious trauma from how this show made me feel like they spit on my face, it terrorized my intelligence and broke my heart of disappointment.

[@isitoveryet9525]

@@LizRealGirlBeauty 😬

[@officialthomasjames]

It’s unbelievable how they just discarded the entire White Walkers plot.

[@roquiros6802]

Brandon Stark: I'm not Brandon Stark anymore, I can never be lord of anything, I'm the three eye raven. Tyrion: hey Brandon Stark, wanna be king? Brandon Stark: Yes, being king is my destiny, I'm Brandon Stark, son of Ned Stark.

[@hellowill]

Don't forgot Samwell saying Jon is the only true king, and Bran himself confirming it

[@djndrsn1080]

@@hellowill Then Bran later has the audacity to say "why do you think I came all this way?" so instead of backing the true king you proclaimed earlier, his whole plan was to take the crown from Jon. What a joke

[@mattdiserio1924]

Not to mention Jon, even though I'm usurping your throne, you will also go back to the Night's Watch... What the fuck. This season totally mind fucked me. I swear they shot it all different had it all ready and then some how all servers pcs IOS etc. Crashed and the the REAL season eight was lost for ever... Yeah in my dreams where Daenerys still desstroys Kingslanding, and I get to watch her sit the Iron Throne. 😖

[@joeking5679]

@Kessroy He only sees the past, not the future. It made no sense for him to say that. The writers constantly did this thing where they asked themselves "whats the most quotably in-character thing this character could say right now?" and just did that no matter how out of place or ridiculous it was taken in larger context.

[@joeking5679]

@Kessroy i don't remember that, was that in the show? the only dreams i remember him having were nonsensical.

[@themissingpeace7956]

What I find funny is how smart Tyrion is as a drunk in the earlier seasons but gets dumber and dumber as he sobers up lmao

[@rahulmenon9530]

Tyrion fucks up a lot but fixes all his mistakes at last in seasons 5 to 6. In season 7 and 8 I'm still wondering to this day why Dany didn't throw him off the highest roof

[@tasmayshah5539]

@@smileandnodd supercuts delight said the same thing, he was like does alcohol make him smart

[@6eostorm]

💀

[@alexeiharp7676]

Wine is the equivalent of charisma points in GOT

[@staytuned2L337]

He did say "I drink and I know things" so, maybe he actually meant it. He drinks, and then he knows things

[@s.w.d4010]

I really hate when people say “They ran out of books.” D&D didn’t even adapt the material from the books! If they had the show would’ve been much better and probably could’ve went 11 seasons. They didn’t have to make up nonsense if they just adapted the book material that they had! They didn’t run out of material they just didn’t adapt it. They had more than enough material.

[@Handle4563]

You know when emilia Clark can't find the positive side of season 8 no one can

[@Sough]

Actually really respect her for a moment of honesty rather than fake shilling

[@HelloItsMikkan]

True....

[@13lood13ath]

Apparently she was so upset when she read the scripts for the final season she cried, went for a walk, and called friends and family.

[@omek6]

@@Sough I mean several of them have had that reaction. Oh hell all of them probably have that reaction, even if they don't say it in front of a camera.

[@nubiannile4606]

Best season ever!!!! Emilia Clark's demeanor said it all.

[@ewoudzimmermanns8904]

It would have been so cool if Danny gradually went crazy over like 4 more seasons but instead they did it all in 2 episodes

[@bangtanruinedmylifeinabeau5616]

Why would D&D do that to my queen 😔👊🏽

[@alisaurus4224]

Or even a time jump! Have the last episode or two take place after she’s been queen a few years. But D&D had her lose her mind overnight bc her nephew didn’t want to bone her anymore.

[@ashergaines593]

@@bangtanruinedmylifeinabeau5616 because they wanted to work on their fantasy show where the confederacy and slavery still existed. thank god that never worked out.

[@lucasnyman5424]

although i agree it was badly done, i still think there were hints of her insanity all around. first showing the targaryen nature, the ‘flipping a coin’ analogy, then showing the way she often makes mistakes, especially with the ruling of mereen. the way she snapped and burned all the masters, along with the way jorah, barristan, and later tyrion were all trying to suppress her rashest impulses. with all of them gone she faces the final enemy, and therefore snaps on westeros

[@alisaurus4224]

@@lucasnyman5424 she was definitely headed that way, but they went from gradually ramping up towards The Mad Queen to straight vertical climb into the stratosphere. This guy did a rewrite of just the Battle of Winterfell episode and the last two episodes that actually makes sense, and fit into the constraints of the short season. It can be done, but D&D weren’t interested in trying. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i3vEemxrlKaHrZI

[@aquilachrysaetos3]

Bran: "Yes, I can. I'M KING." "Any man who must say, 'I am the king' is no true king." - Tywin Lannister

[@peterumathum4903]

Tbf as stupid it was to make bran king that line actually kinda made sense in that context. Grey worm tells them they can pick a king (idk why the biggest lords of westeros suddenly need grey worms approval for aynthing) and then when they do he immediately tries to shit on the first thing the "king" does. It felt like grey worm needs some sort of a reminder that at the end of the day he's a nobody because he was acting like he owns westeros

[@PlesnivejSejra]

What bugs me is quote "Wy do you think i came all this way?" As Brans response for Tyrions question if he'll be the king... he doesnt want to be one and he did all that nothing just to be one? I have missed something or i really dont know

[@peterumathum4903]

@@PlesnivejSejra lol and in the very same scene he goes on to say "i dont want to be king" and none of the 15 people sitting there seem to pick up on this fuckery

[@Psykeeper993]

Power is power. - Cercei Lannister

[@PlesnivejSejra]

@@peterumathum4903 exactly! And here i always thought im simple consumer and i wont see these kind of bad writings...

[@shmebuloc]

You are very smart for seeing these points and being able to articulate them in a clear way to your audience. Good job!

[@dardangashi8453]

"Sansa is mad at Daenerys because she didn't like her, Daenerys is mad at everybody, JON IS JUST SAD BECAUSE EVERYONE IS MAD AT EACH OTHER" This was a typical quote hahahahaha

[@nubiannile4606]

@Dardan Gashi Yeah Poor punkass Jon played and used by everybody and never fitted in anywhere.

[@Nina-kx9jm]

Sansa in season 7 and 8 was just a stubborn bitch who was sulky every time things didn't go the way she wanted them to and she was a total pain in the a**.

[@oelaty9116]

Xerafi sure Sansa wasn’t the best at times in 7&8, however Daenerys was that x10, she took any chance she could to bitch and moan, it’s all she’s ever done and it was unbearable in 7&8, at least Sansa had some genuine reasons to bitch like resting soldiers after battling the literal reincarnation of death

[@lum1st]

@@oelaty9116you can't be serious rn? Sansa is the one who bitches and moans 24/7 over dumb shit dany only bitches when Jon didn't bend the knee for literally 2.5s after that she got over it and faced the real threat head on, Sansa is the one constantly bitching especially about Daenerys who has done nothing but help the north

[@mrrick19379]

Lumist 10/10 comment. You’re totally right.

[@raitorino7520]

Plot threads that were forgotten 1. The prince/princess that was promised that was supposed to end the long night 2. Why the Night King was killing people and why they only appeared now 3. The witch's prophecy that Cersei was going to be killed by his brother (and she assumed that would be Tyrion) [This was only seen in the book so disregard] 4. Why it was important for Bran to meet the three-eyed raven and why the origin of the Others were so important

[@CultureDTCTV]

Quaithe from season 2 and that other Daario guy

[@eliseesbjornsson4981]

When the enemy’s motive never is explained, it makes them useless and straight up boring

[@emiliebrooklyn3963]

Well the prophecy said that Cersei was going to be killed by her LITTLE brother. Cersei born first, so Jaime is also her little brother.

[@AvianDNA]

!!!

[@YggdrasilAudio]

3. wasn't in the show so I wouldn't count that.

[@travisoutlaw9511]

"The writing is bad, that is the only thing wrong with the show." That is the best and most simple explanation for GofT. Everything else in that show was done so well

[@sieyes9356]

Yeah it had good actors and loads of money to spend on special effects, however not having authors capable of writing the latter 4 seasons to save their lives is, erm, suboptimal and not so conducive to a good show

[@rexgeorgerodriguez7620]

@@sieyes9356 Yeah good writing is really hard to do even though you have a good amount of resources, money can't buy intelligence that easy. The directors of the show just made up the plot of the final season because the book material source for the show is not finish yet by the original author.

[@jcavs9847]

only the last 2 seasons. The first seasons, especially 1-4, were literally perfect

[@travisoutlaw9511]

@@jcavs9847 For sure, I'm with you. I loved that show and many people did. That is why we all got so upset the last few seasons when the show runners trashed it

[@toxiccatron867]

@@travisoutlaw9511 The writing went to shit in the last few seasons but good god they did the music well

[@ghoztly7099]

The character assassination was unreal. Jon, Dany, and good god Jaime's characters were assassinated beyond repair. The only characters I still liked at the end were literally Theon and Davos. The rest of Westeros could have been killed and I wouldn't have cared. Arya could have literally no one'd ceresi's ass at any point after returning home and realizing what was at stake. Lmao. It's like THE WORLD IS ENDING THE DEAD ARE HERE. YAY WE WON! To oh yeah, we have to deal with Ceresi. Literally replace the night king with ceresi and have arya shank/imprison her and then we could have had some actual character building and a legit final battle with massive consequences but also a chance to rebuild wasteros.

[@shinjisami]

foreshadowing does not equal character development!.

[@rat9199]

I too saw that video

[@upg5147]

The development was already there

[@kingkunta7633]

Aaaayyyyyeeeee gang

[@wondermonkeys09]

@@upg5147 That is not what development means

[@upg5147]

@@wondermonkeys09 Explain

[@maizennnn]

This is the problem with Arya. I love her arc, but they did give her plot armor. Instead of giving a character plot armor MAYBE JUST MAKE THEM SMART ENOUGH TO AVOID PROBLEMS.

[@deshawnfilterfeed1212]

Yep

[@ssamyuljins]

the annoying thing was that she was a really smart character in the earlier seasons, extremely resourceful and clever. then they decided that she couldn’t be smart and a good fighter at the same time, so they reduced her to a cold assassin. im bitter about it

[@supe4701]

Also I don’t know why she wanted to go kill Cersei even though she was gonna die either way.

[@VenathTehN3RD]

I know it's late, but that's my biggest problem with how they handled a lot of the characters. So many of them - whether heroes, villains, or something in between - just had such a ridiculous degree of plot armor. They would either just think of the perfect counter even when there's no reason to believe they would have (usually antagonists like Cersei), or they would miraculously survive something that would have easily wiped them out had the same event taken place just a few seasons earlier (usually the protagonists on that one). It's basically the horror movie fodder problem. Writing situations that characters can't get out of despite being intelligent or writing characters as being resourceful enough to get out of seemingly impossible situations is hard. Writing situations where characters are just too stupid to escape or just making their pursuers idiots is easy. So why bother writing genuinely inescapable situations or characters who are genuinely intelligent if you can get away with just half-assing it?

[@dailenwug4464]

At a certain point she just became a female ezio

[@alvaro4867]

Remember how this show was constantly referenced and quoted in every kind of media for like 7-8 years? Have not heard one person talk about it since it ended. The last 2 seasons really killed it. Edit: Glad HoTD turned out great lol

[@uz8587]

Yeah holy shit i have never seen a show fall off this bad, Compare it to something like breaking bad, and its still talked about to this dsy

[@kolbydaniels4107]

@@uz8587 even sopranos that came out early 2000s still refrenced and talked about

[@YOUTUBE_IS_WOKE]

Weiss and Benioff killed it, those two morons, because of being greedy and not wanting to have some writer take over, just ended it!

[@SaberRexZealot]

@@kolbydaniels4107 and The Wire, don’t forget about The Wire!

[@Nothing-jo8ci]

@@kolbydaniels4107 because sopranos have the makings of a varsity athlete

[@zoran9914]

Only good thing about season 8 is that it motivated me to read the books,because I knew George will make much better ending.

[@vitoc8454]

It's been argued that even the books have started going downhill after Storm of Swords

[@oimss2021]

@@vitoc8454That’s absolutely true. It’s why we probably won’t see an ending.

[@popstarchamp]

Bad writing is like holes in a ship. It could be a massive luxurious cruiser, but with enough holes it'll sink real quick taking anything good it has down with it.

[@2good2bu7]

Yo, that's a really good analogy!

[@marcomeme4875]

Godtier analogy

[@macksonedinis3670]

great analogy

[@pugzilla3597]

It could be a really shitty boat but as long as it doesn’t have holes, it floats

[@terraincognita9614]

Season 1: Great Season 2: Great Season 3: Great Season 4: Great Season 5: Watchable but subpar Season 6: Great moments but kinda subpar. Still watchable Season 7: Ehhhh with good moments; starting to backslide even more Season 8: absolute unapologetic garbage

[@mocha5742]

Idk man like 80% of season 5 was really bad, especially coming off of season 4 which has arguably the best writing

[@NB-or8rs]

I have to agree with the other guy. Seriously season 7 having good moments ? Wich ones ?

[@Edis12121]

YES, but season 7 i dunno

[@ThwipThwipBoom]

@@mocha5742 Nah five is great still, just not great as seasons 1-4.

[@alicefinster6235]

Season 1: Great Season 2: Great Season 3: Great Season 4: Good. Season 5: Good... mostly? Season 6: Passable. Season 7: Questionable. Season 8: Doesn’t exist.

[@sadsam3684]

“Why was the Night King even in this story?!” 3 years later and that line is still sooo true and disappointing…😞

[@imkaneforever]

Still hoping the night king wins and takes over Mr snow & the fam, cercei and daenarys team up, and then it's an actual battle between fire and ice. But we got one hour of a meaningless battle.

[@exodiatheforbiddenone8228]

how did it end badly again, i forgot?

[@ankitsaikumar6866]

I wish night king had more meaning to him other than being some supernatural horror baddie

[@HEYitzED]

@@exodiatheforbiddenone8228 7 seasons of buildup with the white walkers just for all of it to culminate in one big battle in one episode and the night king dies in the dumbest way possible. It felt like they just threw away that entire storyline to get to who gets the iron throne.

[@arturwillow9108]

The Night King isn't even in the books! fyi

[@cance7984]

Imagine _Game of Thrones_ as if you’re dining at an elegant restaurant. The appetizers are delectable-some of the best food you've ever tasted. The main course is second to none. You’re on cloud nine. Dessert arrives, expecting another hole in one, and it disappoints. No, it's not crummy. It's not on par with what was served before. Now comes the digestif, but instead of the after-dinner drinks, the manager walks up to you and randomly douses you in chocolate syrup.

[@Nathan-jh1ho]

I'd put it in terms of eating the best food I've ever had. While eating the desert, I suddenly noticing the taste and texture is off, and see I've ate part of a dead cockroach with maggots in it. Proceeds to throw up the whole thing

[@Suchwerewolf]

More like the manager just shits directly onto your plate. Granted, it’s a very nice plate.

[@sars910]

I would have to diagree with you on one point. Cersei has never been cold and calculating. She has been ruthless but that is not the same thing. Tywin was ruthless, cold and calculating. Tyrion was cold and calculating but not ruthless. Cersei, on the other hand, has never been too smart. Even Tywin himself said that Cersei thinks she's smarter than she actually is. Her actions have always been impulsive and have never been precise. She does not possess a surgeon's skill. In fact, her actions almost always have consequences that blow back in her face. She wanted to make Eddard publicly state that Joff was the true king but ended up having him killed by an equally impulsive Joffrey resulting in the War of the Five Kings. She was planning to use wildfire as catapulting material and would have probably burned the city to the ground by accident had Tyrion not stepped in. She attempts to punish the Tyrells for supposedly taking away her power over the crown but ends up giving power to a group of religious fanatics who humiliate her publicly and hold the city hostage. Her attempt to remedy that situation is the destruction of the Sept of Baelor but she ends up driving her last child to suicide. The blowing up of the Sept wasn't the unbelievable moment of the situation. The unbelievable moment was her not receiving any consequences for that action. She kills the Lord Paramount of the Reach, his heir, the Queen, her uncle Kevan Lannister (Thus becoming a kinslayer) and probably many other important people in the Sept but there is zero fallout for that decision of hers. Just the fact that she killed her uncle and cousin would have her shunned by the lords and ladies of Westeros and should have lost her the support of the Westerlands (There are other Lannisters who probably would take very kindly to Cersei killing her kin). Her decision to kill Mace Tyrell, his heir and the Queen without any cause should have had her ousted from power instantly since no one likes a tyrant and she had no where enough strength to rule with an iron grip. Also, how did she crown herself Queen. A big part of GoT is the importance having claims to titles. Cersei has no claim to the Iron Throne but for some reason everyone is really chill with having her take it. This was the point in the show when politics stopped making any sense.

[@feraflauna3238]

Well said. However, I might add that while Cersei was more impulsive than intelligent, her intelligence absolutely PLUMMETED in the last 1-2 seasons to where she was just a drolling, conniving moron. As Cosmonaut put it, discount Lex Luthor. . .In the previous seasons, while she wasn't as smart as she believed herself to be, she also had a certain understanding of subtlety and subterfuge in order to get what she wanted. Or she had enough charisma to manipulate the smart people into doing those things for her. She did prefer as well to be seen as the glorious, beautiful, infallible, perfectly reasoned and sensible Queen, so she very rarely made openly blatant moves to compromise that reputation. Certainly not where she was so willing to be so blatant about such a petty power grab like she did with the Sept. And if the argument was that since all her intelligent consul was all gone at the time and she had nowhere left to hide, that wasn't properly set up either. . .And as you brilliantly put it, she faced no true consequences for this when that should've been a thing. It always WAS a thing in the show before. . .She callously and openly murdered royalty and members of her own family (where the Lannisters ALWAYS valued family, even Cersei, and "kinslayers" were marked with nothing but contempt and exile. . .), murdered her own uncle and cousin, she grabs power and declares herself Queen. . .and NO ONE in Westeros is willing to contest her on all this? How about. . .the Starks? Even the Lannisters themselves? And then Tyrion claims that they need Cersei's aid to even defeat the White Walker problem. . .when she is an unhinged maniac who they all know is going to screw them over the first chance she gets. . .

[@laurocoman]

@@feraflauna3238 Besides, the entirety of the Faith Militant fit in the same room? If you already are a crazy religious murderer you wouldn't react very well to someone killing your prophet. The Faith Militant was built up during 3 seasons and they were like a handful of people? You don't need to nuke a church to get rid of those people. The Mountain had already killed several of them by the time she did that and they are just skinny morons in robes by the end.

[@defencebangladesh4068]

@@laurocoman yeah... It's just lazy writing

[@withalittlehelpfrom3]

A bunch of really good points here. Starting with the fact that Robb Stark killed the Karstark patriarch and lost the whole family in his army. You'd think the exact same thing would happen to Cersei for doing far worse!! And yeah, we never get an explanation for why Cersei was crowned queen. Was it because she was Robert's wife, or did they think they might as well remove the title "Regent" from "Queen Regent"? Why didn't the throne automatically go to Dany or anyone with a better claim to the Iron Throne? Or... why wasn't she appointed Protector of the Realm like Ned, until they found a suitor? Why did she have to be anointed as queen, and what did she do as queen she couldn't have done as Queen Regent or Protector of the Realm? All things D&D very clearly "Kinda forgot."

[@laurocoman]

@@withalittlehelpfrom3 remember when everyone was in the brinc of a revolution and dared to literally throw shit at their king, then they liked the royal family because of Margery? The entire kingdom took the murder of their well-liked queen too well... that on top of the murder of a religious prophet, and members of two powerful families.

[@RSSMonster]

The "I never really cared for the people" line is where i gave up completely

[@XescoPicas]

Right?! Protecting the f*cking innocents was his whole f*cking deal!!

[@patwaddington]

I knew that this show was dead back in season 7. When John Snow and his merry men go north of the wall to try and find the white walkers to bring one of the dead back. That was absolutely terrible

[@CocoBanaka]

Me too. I was like "what f is this" it felt as Cersei bewitched Jaime with her vagina.

[@Thetruthiscosmic]

Made me wanna throw my whole tv away. Just throw it all away. Fkn D&D... 🤬

[@devoringdemonsoulq9086]

pat waddington finally!!! Someone that agrees?

[@jenniferri7735]

jaime was my favorite character too, and i wanted to throw my tv out the window when he went back to cersei. i told everyone for YEARS that he was going to be the one to kill her. stupid me.

[@patwaddington]

Yeah that was absolutely terrible.

[@CrawLBoss]

You are not stupid. He will kill her in the books sooner or later

[@Chibbykins]

Stupid D and D. The fans wrote a better ending for Jaime than they did.

[@mijanhoque1740]

You’re not stupid, the tv writers D&D are stupid and too blame. Hopefully we get a animated series or something in the future which follows the books properly or atleast does the character arcs justice.

[@penial_smasher_500]

They could have totally made it so he went back for her but finally sees how she's become such a monster that even he can't even save her and leaves her

[@drake128]

At one point when young Ned hears Bran and turns around and it cuts to the ravens face i honestly thought …. Did Bran just realise he may be able to influence the past if he can in somewhat interact with it ? Imagine the potential

[@Donnendet]

Aaaaaand an entire season of dick jokes is all we got. My imagination exploded after that episode and they couldn’t be bothered to use it for ANYTHING.

[@flores5420]

“Danny’s fall to the dark side is more abrupt and jarring than Anakin Skywalker’s. And yet somehow she still has a higher body count.” This killed me😂😂🤣🤣

[@leenaleewitch3731]

It makes me cry and laugh. Anakin started falling to the dark side since episode 2 when he slaughtered a village...but it was years prior. Dany becomes a Sith Lord in one episode and with no time lapse in between.

[@smallfryenjoyer]

Just like Daenerys apparently

[@v-mouse]

true. Darth Vader has a pretty low body count. Everbody killed more. Even Brienne killed more.

[@tagrerte4701]

@@v-mouse You missed the part when Anakin slaughtered an entier village to say such a thing ? The joke about Vader having low body count was compared to Daenerys who killed HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND OF PEOPLE on her dragon while turning dark side in like an hour.

[@v-mouse]

I'm talking about Darth Vader not Anakin. AS Darth Vader he has not been very successful as a "great Villain".

[@dyllanrodriguez2828]

God it’s been years and years later and it’s still blowing my mind that this show of all the shows dropped the ball so hard it shattered the show’s entire fandom, popularity, and all credibility. Tragic isn’t even the word.

[@futuretimetraveller8677]

i have pondered the same tragic reality more than once dumb and dumber would have had their names etched in theatrical history as the producers of the most iconic fantasy and ONE OF the most iconic SHOWS ever produced now their names will be remembered but for the wrong reasons

[@dyllanrodriguez2828]

@@futuretimetraveller8677 literally that. And look at those guys now, they literally do not get mentioned or heard at ALL anymore. Not only did they destroy this series, they absolutely destroyed their own careers and its fucking astounding how fast that worked. I’ve heard house of the Dragon is great for the most part and is kinda sewing the gaping chest wound the series left but lord knows it will never be fully healed. This was far too much. And you know what really caught my eye at the end? When they all laughed at Sam’s suggestion to become more of a council instead of having a king. That moment right there made me sigh and roll my eyes harder than anything because you KNOW that was their “Haha right guys? Riiiiight? That would never make sense or happen in GoT” as if NOW all of sudden their acknowledging the shit their doing. Like sheesh.

[@gsolier4437]

SOOO VERY TRUE 😢

[@hurricanefrid]

I'm the kind of person who rewatch the shows that I love over and over again, and GoT _was_ that kind of show for me. After finishing every season I would start over right from the beginning, except for after season 8. Haven't rewatched it since the season 8 finale, haven't even tried to.

[@SilverViper1000]

@@hurricanefrid I know that feeling. It's the same for me. I'd like to rewatch it, but I really cannot get me to do so. Same for the new got show. I cannot watch it.

[@ИванПетрович-г6ю]

Season 8 Its like doing your homework 5 minutes before class.

[@Gorgun2010]

have you tried doing your homework in 30 seconds?

[@tommythenice6799]

Perfect 👍

[@Grammar_police420]

Seen some one else comment this good job

[@tommythenice6799]

Bell inglese viterbese

[@johnrobinson4445]

EXACTLY!

[@syzyphyz]

I disagree on the Cersei thing, the Sparrows were a perfect foil for her because the high Sparrow couldnt be corrupted or manipulated through her regular tactics, that's why she had to blow them up, although it would've been more interesting to see her face more consequences as a result of such a bold move but i do think it makes sense why ahe would do it.

[@Dhirallin]

Not to mention the self-destruction of Varys and Littlefinger, the 2 biggest players in the GoT.

[@trappnest4490]

These two characters were just too hard to handle for D&D brains

[@davidzamora7099]

I remember when it was reveal that Littlefinger organized the death of The Hand... And there was a GOT meme when they say that at the end the whole show was the fight of wits between Varys and Littlefinger... And it was for seasons... Until they were relegated to second fiddle and they made so awful and obvious plotting... The show lost two of their best characters with all those changes, and no one replace them... Really sad...

[@endor8witch]

they kinda forgot that they are players

[@Raaa8080]

@Carl Sinclair varys was no longer a puzzle piece since season 7, when it was revealed he wants the best for the realm and people, unlike little finger who wanted the power to himself ...and on a distant tangent, hate it when people praising sansa for winning the battle of bastards, when it was little finger who brought the knights...sansa just had a V

[@LetsPlayCodx]

Raaa8080 Varys said he was working for the realm in season 1 you idiot

[@ameliaweresmintgreen]

dude that 35 minutes was more satisfying than the last season of GOT

[@shanalyse.]

I litteraly didn't want the video to end

[@akashsky9431]

I am watching at 4 am and thought I am seeing a 10 minute video, until I saw your comment. 😂

[@richardkonyves6500]

I absolutely agree, I couldn't agree anymore. The hole last season left a wierd feeling in me, an empty space, that literally shouts for itself to be filled.

[@thisaccountsucks5556]

I don't want to agree with that, but I feel like I do. However, I think the commentary in this video is a bit too critical.

[@durmoth7027]

fuck yes

[@project_nihilist]

Don’t forget that Dumb & Dumber forgot how fast a horse can go. Jamie, Arya and The Hound made it to Kings Landing in the last season in a day. Not to mention Danny’s army was already there. In the first book it took Robert like a month or more to get to Winterfell with a small escort. Maybe I am wrong and Dany held the castle at siege for a month, maybe Winterfell is all up hill

[@ashoknagulan398]

Nah you can tell it’s been a few weeks cuz of Jon and tyrions beards grew.

[@angelatheriault8855]

A horse and rider can travel appropriately 32 miles per day. The distance from King’s Landing to Winterfell is 1500 miles so it would take about 47 days to travel between them. A group would take longer because they would have to stop more frequently especially if they were pulling coaches or supply wagons.

[@mmfrru]

THANK YOU! I never heard anyone say anything about how fast they travelled, like what did they feed their horses 😂 were the unsullied and dothrakis run nonstop to King’s Landing?

[@jimjam7928]

Once Littlefinger died he took his teleportation skills with him.

[@georgeaskeladd742]

For real though. In the first seasons people travelled in normal travelling speed but in season 7&8 they just kinda teleported

[@robertoprestigiacomo253]

35:19 - "And I'm sure that in a few years we'll have the official, canonical ending" That didn't age well.

[@the1onlynoob]

"Jon is just sad no one is getting along." HAHAHAHHAHA but so true.

[@muanims]

No replys?

[@Zecamilleo]

The final season was so bad nobody talks about the show as a whole anymore, it looks like it never existed.

[@SockDrawerDemon]

Except for us, still furiously obsessed cos of our collective storytelling blue balls.

[@wihoemhae]

i'll be watching got for the first time, what seasons should i only watch to avoid the bad writing?

[@arismastro505]

@@wihoemhae watch the first 4 seasons then drop it

[@tobiasvikr472]

@@wihoemhae i'd watch at least 1-6. Things does start to become suspicious after 4 but IMO it doesn't really go to shit until S7. 7 and 8 are just an absolute mess, ESPECIALLY season 8.

[@danwhitaker5168]

@@wihoemhae I concur watch 1 to 6 Season 7 starts to go downhill and rushes many storylines yet is still 100x better than the utter train crash that is Season 8.

[@cathl4953]

It's the classic, Good writing can make up for bad art Good art can't cover up bad writing

[@IggyTthunders]

The first person who taught me that was Bill Waterson.

[@justsomelizardwithatophat.367]

Literally like that with one punch man at the moment.

[@Meraxes6]

Writing is art :)

[@07Trot]

Tell that to todd mcfarlane

[@MrCholoPants3415]

@@Meraxes6 ....Sooooort of. Writing has many rules, most mediums of art do not have many rules. I cannot think of any artistic medium that has even close to the amount of rules and objectively "bad" aspects to it that writing does. Plotholes and tropes are objectively bad unless something is a parody which Game of Thrones is not.

[@dal.890]

It's almost impressive how just about every character was ruined in one season. I'll always love the hound though. It's just too bad I don't even feel like starting it again and to get let down again.

[@Tucanforpres001]

2 years later, Martin still hasn't finished Winds of Winter. Man is 72. I hope he survives.

[@delta2372]

Just hope he doesn't fallow miura to the grave, berserk is never going to get an ending now and miura was younger and more in shape than martin is

[@alisaurus4224]

I think he mayyyy finish Book 6, or at least has enough of it written to publish when he croaks. I don’t think we’ll ever see Book 7.

[@originalsun5206]

@@alisaurus4224 he promised TWOW by December 2021. Don't know if ADOS will ever be released. Probably if he worked on it instead of the prequels 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@kerseykerman7307]

@@alisaurus4224 Pretty sure he doesn't work linearly and already has a lot of stuff roughly written out for Book 7 as well, so if he bites the dust we should at least see a rough cut of what would have been the ending even if we don't get it with too many details and some useless fat on it that he didn't have time to cut away

[@mayanksingh.b2.307]

Avg. Life expectancy in UK is 87.6 , so hope for best.

[@Marcel_be]

Bran becomes King of Westeros because he has a story so great, they litteraly had to skip it for a full season.

[@silentstorm4819]

Who has a better story than Bran the broken *Literally anyone*

[@clintburford6568]

Lol that's awesome

[@exalosm]

they just kind of forgot about Bran

[@Crash103179]

King Bran is the kid that got an A+ on the group project without doing any of the work.

[@ejedwards988]

No legitimate claim to the throne is amazing...

[@joeschmoe3665]

We waited eight seasons for Jon Snow to be sent right back to the nights watch, after he died for them left them, after he was crowned kind in the north, after he became Aegon Targaeryen the heir to the seven kingdoms. The biggest reveal in the show and the explaining of Roberts Rebellion doesn't matter because democracy kicked in!! Honestly the slap in the face to Jon's arc was the worst I've ever seen for all his pain and suffering they reset his entire fucking character

[@ereisenheim9896]

* to the Night's Watch that has no more meaning to exist.

[@johnjaeger3746]

I wasn't a big fan of Jon, but his arc ruined the whole universe. He got resurrected - true resurrection, not wight shit, but full reanimation of mind, body and spirit. That's deity level shit. Why would he be revived like that just to kill one woman? The only reason that a god would revive a person like that is to end an existential threat that no one else could.

[@MzCheecharella]

@@johnjaeger3746 This is the best comment, the most logical take on/of the frustration, on/over, the dropping of Jon Snow's REASON for resurrection.

[@lauravictoriaramirez1543]

@@MzCheecharella I agree it’s the best comment

[@lauravictoriaramirez1543]

Nailed it. Among other disappointments

[@wh1pst1ckag0st0p]

You can’t see how Brianne was ruined? She was a complex, strong woman who bucked tradition and became a warrior, and the show ends with her sniveling over a boy 🙄

[@mobyhuge2652]

EXACTLY. IT PISSED ME OFF SOO MUCH. I wanted her and jaime to become like brothers in arms. Their whole love and sex was annoying

[@RealOddity]

Tyrion season 1: A mind needs a book like a sword needs a whetstone. Tyrion season 8: A sword needs a book like a mind needs a whetstone.

[@Son-of-Baghdad]

Joffrey season 4: Imma cut up your book with my dank ass sword

[@GavetaDoJB]

D&D: A need books a sword like a whetstone mind.

[@GaneshKumar-bv2td]

Thank you...that genuinely made me laugh, the imagery of those words 😂👍🏻

[@alyssaj8779]

Cersei doesn't believe in ice zombies even though she has a zombie guard. I guess the ice part was just too much.

[@POCLEE]

She kinda forgot.

[@sakasusuk]

@@POCLEE Yeah Tara you're being too inconsiderate she just kinda forgot about it.

[@Dylan-Blok]

She doesn't care, that's a subtle difference.

[@jaydee1024]

@@firstLast-jw7bm I've also heard 'homeostatically challenged' or 'metabolistically gifted' depending on which side of the Wall you're (or they're) on. The Maesters refer to them as necrosis confused..

[@RKNGL]

Cersei: Ice doesn't exist. No one has actually ever seen it.

[@harveymulvihill]

I haven't thought about this show in 2 years. This got recommended and I'm mad all over again. It was honestly nice to briefly re-feel the passionate anger I once had. Love you Marcus

[@kerim63000]

Same bro... Same

[@OlafavonGoeding]

I rewatched the whole MCU during the first lockdown, people were rewatching tv beloved tv shows and series. But no one, NO ONE even considered rewatching this dumbsterfire

[@maxthompson159]

Fuck D&D so much, and fuck GRRM for his lazy fucking attitude "oh I guess I'll make another spin off - finishing this story I started decades ago just seems so hardddddd......." 3 Cuntscateers.

[@erika30pinki]

In hindsight, the moment we saw Emilia and Kit's reactions, we should've known.

[@kalebbruwer]

Season 1-7: The dead are a really, really big problem! Season 8: They gone now, lol.

[@KyleMorganyoloswag]

You mean they wrapped up a storyline in the final season of the show?! Those fuckers.

[@clem72tro]

Freys were seen as motherfuckers for 7 seasons, they died in 2 minutes without any expectation, was that a problem ? More than 2 hours have been gave for the preparation and the fight itself of the long night against the dead (episode 2 and 3 of season 8, I don't even mention episode 1), this is enough.

[@Arander92]

It’s not enough. It’s nowhere near enough. The first two episodes were just people walking and talking. You probably liked it cause you never liked the white walker storyline. There’s a pattern showing with people defending this shit.

[@Kaldier]

@@clem72tro The Freys weren't magical or mysterious. We know most of what's important about the Freys when they were first introduced. We have known practically nothing about the white walkers or Night king besides a few things like them taking the babies and all but we never got a true motive. Sure they said he wants to destroy all life or whatever, but we never actually see that from the Night King. The Night King was built up since season one - he was seen as impossible to kill and yet he dies on the very first attack south by one blow to the chest in the middle of his undead army.

[@BlueHooloovoo]

@JamieLan2011And if the White Walkers are defeated in one night in the book, what are you going to say about that?

[@Irishatheist24]

The worst part for me is i love the show but now that the ending isn't worth anything I can't encourage anyone to watch it. Its not worth your time anymore.

[@AimForMyHead81]

*tips fedora*

[@undeadbandit835]

Irish Atheist yup

[@TAL20013]

I've told my friends who haven't watched it to not bother, it's literally been a waste of time for it to end like that.

[@thisizavian3691]

Na your just dumb. And that's just how it ended. Why don't you pick up a camera and do better.

[@undeadbandit835]

Ian Campbell you dumbfuck your statement is stupid. And *you're ;)

[@Matteus2109]

Dude, the pile-on the show's getting has been WAY more entertaining than the actual season 8 EVER was.

[@alevensalor]

This is so true. I've been calling it the GoT internet civil war.

[@aliehsan8738]

Season 8 was entertaining?

[@vegasgirl3538]

So true. The episodes were boring as fuck, but the rants are hilarious.

[@kimicalburn9448]

I absorbed the last two seasons solely via Twitter hate and I have no complaints

[@Jack-rk7jc]

@@kimicalburn9448 Really? That sounds miserable. Completely soaking in the mob mentality and going along with everyone's bitching and whining. I avoid as much of the complaining as possible. The internet is just an echo chamber for negativity. I love this show and I'm not gonna let some prick who thinks he knows how the show should've ended influence how I feel about it. The earlier seasons were better, the show didn't end how I wanted it to, overall it's still the best show in all of history. That's how I feel, and that's how a lot of others feel too. That's how I think Game of thrones will be remembered. Not all the bashing and petty negativity surrounding it. Newsflash. Everyone thinks they could've ended it better. But in reality they just want the ending for their favorite character to be different. I think every character had a fine conclusion. Except Dany. She was fucked. But in hindsight, she was always fucked. They just didn't play it out with the amazing writing GRRM usually lends to the story. That's all

[@Dvpt39]

The biggest issue is that they made the throne more important than the white walkers and the prophecy of Azor Ahai’s reincarnation (The Warrior of Light/Prince Who Was Promised). Kings Landing should’ve been conquered before the army of the dead arrived, Arya or Jamie should’ve killed Cersai, and Dany’s dreams should’ve led her to sacrifice herself to save the world. Jon could’ve stabbed her through the heart to create the flaming sword (Lightbringer) to destroy the Night King.

[@unbreakabledl]

I honestly think this might be the possible ending for the books.. if George manages to finish it