Game Theory: How RICH is a Pokemon Master?

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I want to be...the very best...and also very RICH!! Being a Pokemon Champion is the dream of many a child and adult, if we are being honest. Except, after you get past all the glory and the cute Pokemon, you have to wonder - is being a Pokemon Master a viable career choice? Can you survive on the money that you'd make? Well today Loyal Theorists, we are about to find out!!
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[@vipero07]

This is the exact reason Ash (and his mom, since he was only 10 at the time) signed a contract to have a camera crew follow him around and start a reality show of his own.

[@kriteshghildiyal5506]

underrated

[@ThatFanBoyGuy]

That's my head canon, too!

[@Valentine-er1ll]

Very very true

[@Valentine-er1ll]

@@ThatFanBoyGuy and me

[@TylerTMG]

interesting

[@Sh-nd7fu]

If you chose pikachu you wouldn't have to pay electric bills

[@Draeckon]

Or really any electric type, for that matter.

[@stubbornleeloo1156]

clever.... very clever

[@BadAssBogie12]

Nor water if you have a water type

[@lilcorner]

You could technically grow food too if you have the right grass type

[@SilverstarandFriends]

Person 06 get a fire type and an ice type to lower any heating/cooling costs. A water type would lower the water requirements because you could use them for any non-consumable water needs. Theres probably a set of pokemon that could eliminate the majority of the cost of living if used right

[@shadowmarauder6033]

This actually makes a lot of sense. In the adventure manga, even the gym leaders have another job that they do and the anime shows this as well.

[@nesrodan4433]

@@10tailedbijuu he is talking about the manga the pokémon manga and anime are completely different

[@soccerkills]

Noo don't give up you can beat the elite 4 over and over again like he said if you beat them 15 times a day that's 1755 dollars for the calculations

[@AhmedKhan3.14]

@@10tailedbijuu nah Roark is a miner, Cilan owns a restaurant, Steven is an archaeologist(rock simp) and Lenora owns a museum. There are many examples.

[@MelonLight222]

@@10tailedbijuu No idea about brock, Misty and her water shows, Surge and the military, Erika is a florist, Blaine owns an inn, Giovani is a Mafia Leader, Koga owns a Dojo for ninjas, Sabrina has a place that trains Psyhics.

[@Actionfan19]

@@AhmedKhan3.14 Elisa and Nessa are models, Valerie is a fashion designer, most fighting type gyms double as dojos, I think 1 flying type gym is also a flight school, Wattsons gym is a power plant.

[@lancercool1992]

With that conversion, the bike is actually priced surprisingly fittingly

[@Idk-why...824]

Yey you hit 100 likes🎉🎉🎉

[@tyreemason4741]

No wonder Ash hasn't bought Misty a new bike yet...

[@mahdihasan8293]

But he did get hear a new bike.

[@Josephnina96]

Mahdi Hasan facts 🤣🤣

[@renrenpogi0]

He Got Nirse joy to fix her bike

[@foxfox3674]

Ash needs a real job brah

[@alfredhiponia157]

@@foxfox3674 he's 10 what you want is child labour

[@susballmapping9521]

The fact that ash started his Pokémon journey on April fools day just makes things better

[@felicedt4912]

I want to like but there is 69 likes

[@raulflores8581]

@@felicedt4912 dont worry we will make it 420 together

[@felicedt4912]

@@raulflores8581 :)

[@raulflores8581]

@ISAAC BORNICK 204 now 😳

[@namnguyenvan2109]

209

[@RJFlute]

A year and 3 months pokemon journey having an initial overhead of $6,000 isn't too bad to be honest. It seems like the Pokemon Journey acts more like an internship where you gain exposure to all the avenues of the workforce in the Pokemon World, from the towns to the government, and then at the end of the journey, you specialize into your field and pursue that, using your contacts and recommendations of your peers.

[@avataryangchenbl9706]

*I swear if the next theory isn’t “what is Brock’s eye color” or “will Brock ever open his eyes”-*

[@duderitoz6953]

I always figured brock was chinese & thats why his eyes looked like that am i wrong?

[@daltooinewestwood6380]

When you become champion you become famous. You get brand deals, merchandising, you go on tour, and anyone that wants to become champion has to beat you to do it. You also gain a significant role as part of federal law enforcement, with almost no restrictions on how you act in the pursuit of that duty. The champion in Pokémon is the equivalent to a Specter in Mass Effect

[@jeng9927]

It also sounds like what happens in Hunter x Hunter.

[@Eliza-hb1nc]

ooooo

[@81ue93]

I know that I’m late but it also important to know that some things may not cost as much as it does where you live, for example houses, children, taxes and more. For example, in some countries, schools and taking care of your physical health (with that I mean going to hospitals and things like that) doesn’t cost but in some places, it’s like the most expensive thing.

[@daltooinewestwood6380]

@@81ue93 it wouldn’t be a stretch to assume that pretty much every basic human need is taken care of due to the fact that humans and Pokémon are able to work so closely together to improve society. They have such a huge wealth of resources that scarcity doesn’t exist

[@mariustan9275]

@@daltooinewestwood6380 I mean just the Kanto starts would save a lot of money. Pikachu? No power bill. Squirtle? No water bill (not sure if it's clean) Bulbasaur? Harvest your own vegetables and fruits. Charmander? No heating bill.

[@brunomuller2440]

YOURE TELLING ME I SOLD I GIANT PIECE OF PURE GOLD FOR TEN DOLLARS!!?!!!!

[@brianp6859]

Obviously the pokedollar is not backed by gold...

[@landriodawsome2015]

What if the pokemart is so stupid they dont know its gold

[@ahaaha1875]

@@landriodawsome2015 I mean revives are like a dollar and we got canada with the pokecenters

[@cstalconducts4590]

Im afraid so

[@kingkr7403]

Yup

[@murderousduck3024]

funny thing is, he didnt have to do the lemonade comparison, he could have just translated the yen to pokedollars directly from the japan games

[@CircuitrinosOfficial]

He had to account for inflation and buying power.

[@nicolasmarin1812]

0:37 ahhh It sounded great, I want a full version!

[@aazenmahrajan980]

"Can't afford a home" "Then there's the house payment" seems right

[@vojmarinusvandoorn318]

this comment is copied but u probably wouldnt know which you do wink wink nudge nudge u know this is copied

[@aazenmahrajan980]

@@vojmarinusvandoorn318 no

[@sahar1213]

he cant afford a home so hes taking a loan

[@furefee2199]

Seems legit

[@Fishsticks-sv7kq]

@@sahar1213 that kinda rhymes

[@malvernwilson6257]

"And make them fight TO THE DEATH!" "To the faint, I mean, to the faint." Nuzlocke: *Am I a joke to you?*

[@slevinchannel7589]

Matt Pat completly ignores so much in this Video, it's laughable. He claims to research sooo much, but in the End, does he really? Just counting the very First Game is pretty dump. In Recent Games, you earn that much (his End Result here) just by defeating the Elite Four ONCE. Just counting the first game, that is old, and not representative of anything... why? So, yeah, these Numbers mean literally Nothing. Thanks, Game Theorists.

[@malvernwilson6257]

@@slevinchannel7589 I mean, you can't be an expert in every fandom, but I see your point.

[@slevinchannel7589]

@@malvernwilson6257 I don't expect him to be the Master of all Pokemon Games ever, but he only counted a single one, the first One none the less, which means not much, if anything. When listening to his Final Result how much the Top 4 give you - am i expected not to realize "Oh, i just played Ultra Sun and i get much, much more Money than this from the Top 4!" Am i supposed to not realize/notice that??

[@malvernwilson6257]

@@slevinchannel7589 True.

[@profox5693]

Slevin Channel lol salty

[@Lost_Dreemurr]

I love going back to this video and finding the parts that made it into the song

[@camikazi2737]

When he stopped the song and was like, real life sucks, I was like.... yea. I feel that. I relate more to this video than any other.

[@Toopoo_]

I would cut transportation costs too since you just walk everywhere

[@impudentstrumpet2655]

Yep. And in the anime, Ash and his friends just ride on Lapras' back to each of the Orange Islands.

[@bagel_dev]

In X and Y games there's a taxi.

[@Anonymous-eo2er]

There’s taxis and trains in Sword/Shield although I don’t know if you’re actually paying for any of it

[@VicDScott]

That and some of your pokemon can fly and surf across water

[@dawsonmiller4022]

And he's calculating for the original games so those two things don't come into play at all

[@noob1n8or]

You forgot to factor in the fact that medical bills in the pokemon world are TOTALLY FREE because their medical care is so insanely good. In addition to that you're only factoring in how profitable being a champion in Kanto specifically is. In Pokemon Platinum which takes place in Sinnoh you get a house for free and make enough money to totally furnish the place out. All in all, lemonade might not be the best way to convert that worlds money into cash. It's probably so much more expensive there because all the necessities are so much more affordable because their economy is in such crazy good shape. For reference you can buy a chandelier for 120000 pokedollars amounting to about 465 usd according to your calculations. That's WAY cheaper than it would be in real life to pay for the purchase and installation of a chandelier. So while it may seem like pokemon trainers are super poor, you're also forgetting that their world is in much much better shape economically than we are in real life.

[@fieryraidenx4189]

noob1n8or good point

[@reiko3488]

True

[@Patzilla1999]

Let's not forget when he's talking about the amount trainers it refers to the game, however there would be far more trainers in real life to battle, and he's using Ash's travel for the average. Ash is a subjectively horrible trainer and his travel would take much longer than that of a good trainer.

[@fieryraidenx4189]

Patzilla 1999 also, if you could look at all the Pokémon’s abilities, some could be extremely profitable, as shown in the Alola anime

[@unclesunbro1577]

Machamp construction equipment. Dugtrio for mining. This list goes on forever.

[@KamawnTH]

5:13 I can't imagine the joy I'll feel when I cut that Pikachu's head on half on my platter

[@xKarenWalkerx]

The fact that Ash has been 11 for 25 years just makes it all worth it to me.

[@kaniurombom1909]

Matpat: Pokémon trainers are broke Payday: Allow me to introduce myself

[@slevinchannel7589]

Matt Pat completly ignores so much in this Video, it's laughable. He claims to research sooo much, but in the End, does he really? Just counting the very First Game is pretty dump. In Recent Games, you earn that much (his End Result here) just by defeating the Elite Four ONCE. Just counting the first game, that is old, and not representative of anything... why? So, yeah, these Numbers mean literally Nothing. Thanks, Game Theorists.

[@ctgamingplayzz9491]

Slevin Channel dam that came out of literally nowhere

[@slevinchannel7589]

@@ctgamingplayzz9491 You think so? I don't think so? Does me think so? No. Does the You think so? Probably. Is my Grammar fading away? Indeed it yes. Cause I'm sleepy i am. Long day it is yes.

[@ctgamingplayzz9491]

Slevin Channel uhhhh I... wot?

[@Randmiers]

And what about the amulet coin. I’m literally just breaking through the Galar League with a G-Max Meowth (which can earn you around 90, 000 pokedollars per Dynamax battle.

[@Daniel-wt4ud]

Matpat's first words Mat: H-h-h Mum: awe his first words! Is it he- Mat: HELLO INTERNET, WELCOME TO GAME THEORY!

[@olgaplus3bertrand49]

LOL

[@pkness1618]

we run this joke before on matpat full intro

[@keplers452b]

WE MUST SHARE THIS! XD

[@augustomoreira7441]

me after seeing the value of a dollar on brazil: me:*looks at cat* have you ever been in a journey? cat: meooooow me: would you like to?

[@TheRealMcDuffy]

The missed opportunity of mat saying "teach them to understand the power that's in gold"

[@mr.cowlick4150]

“And we didn’t even *talk* about *taxes* !!” *”DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED ON TAXES !!”* - MatPat, 2018 At 13:02

[@logeyperogi1805]

Taxes not even existing in the Pokemon world I still laugh at the idea that we go into the woods, beat up some random kid’s pets, then take his money

[@randomgeneratedname5503]

“Real life sucks” But that’s just a fact, a depressing sad fact.

[@IndestructibleApe]

Matthew Patrick why do you have yellow in the game theory symbol I know red is film theory but sometimes you put yellow

[@fancy_rattus]

@@IndestructibleApe *cough cough* book theory

[@fancy_rattus]

Jkjk..... unless

[@randomstuffnow1171]

This is to the first comment o think it’s the man himself nugget

[@randomstuffnow1171]

Yep just give up

[@elainadeeter9788]

I just started the video, but wouldn't traveling through the wilderness, constantly on the move, be a bit more cost efficient than staying at home? With a house, you have food, water, electric, car, and house payments, and presumably less Pokémon to catch and people to fight in order to gain money. On the road, you don't have to pay a lot of those expenses, and meet more Pokémon and people to fight. Sure, hotels can be pretty expensive, but they probably spend a good chunk of the time on the road anyways.

[@maxpowers9129]

I imagine they make most of their money by selling the Pokémon that they level up, or from tickets sold to watch their fights.

[@bruhtnt4258]

How rich is a Pokémon master? Me: depends on what Pokémon you have. If you have a Meowth, then you’re all set. Because Payday

[@analog_stick8118]

4:47 line line line, line line swoop, swoop line swoop, naruto run, one legged balance, and stupid L... OMG I’M DYING

[@CapnShades]

Possibly racist yet somehow completely understandable

[@justamarshmallow5204]

We all want Ash's age; do you accept the challenge of figuring it out?

[@omgPoopii]

JustAMarshmallow ash is 10

[@toatahu2003]

I just assume about a year per region. He's about 17 now. Or 13 if you start from the 5th region reboot that officially reestablished Ash as 10 for the first time.

[@LordOfGoons]

Ash is TEN

[@jasonmiller2379]

someone already figured this out, Ash is roughly 16-18 years old pre sun and moon series

[@tk-ol6iv]

@@jasonmiller2379 but they aren't MatPat... therefore, they are wrong. Jk Jk

[@rituburrows8924]

Nurse Joy: Here's your bill for Healing Pikachue!" Ash: IM NOT PAYING FOR DAT!

[@user-qu9xs6fw8f]

8:25 little did Mat know what he started

[@127mfan]

I respect your work Mattpat, but there are ways to get around this. You haven't included the amulet coin which doubles prize money, or O-powers which can triple you prize earnings and stacks with the amulet. There is also the move Happy hour. This move doesn't stack with the amulet but DOES stack with O- Powers. End result being *over 6x* what you came up with. Lastly, you can take away the costs of transportation since most trainers end up using Fly to travel most places.

[@BlueDefender006]

Didn't exist in Gen 1. Sure it would be different in other games.

[@davidhong1934]

Still doesn't excuse the logic of the Pokemon economy

[@gabrote42]

In sun and moon you get like 18 million pokedollars. That's better

[@orlando4010]

"line line line" "Naruto run" "stupid L" how I remembered the characters when taking Japanese in college XD

[@mommyevesfam3414]

R/thathappened

[@jonwryy]

Aaaa Bbb r/woosh

[@stephkinzfitchy]

@@jonwryy Thanks, someone needed to do that!

[@joseernestotorres6967]

CrayToons 4:46

[@robimar2386]

Me: *goes on a pokemon video from film theory or game theory* Video: I WANNA BE THE VERY BEST LIKE NOONE EVER WAS

[@magicbreadguy7769]

I just love the fact that the first minutes of the video are just him quoting a song he made (my personal favorite)

[@moommooo]

In Sun and Moon, you can literally make more that a million pokedollars if you do side quests and part time jobs 😂

[@seigeengine]

@@10tailedbijuu It wasn't that long ago. 1996. $1 then is $1.64 now.... different, but same ballpark.

[@natalyfelicianosotolove]

And selling things

[@jameshanley3947]

@@seigeengine we also have no idea what time period the pokemon universe takes place in tho

[@shamsudeenma1928]

@@jameshanley3947 The pokemon universe takes place in at a bit slower pace as the real world I believe

[@soccerkills]

Yes and he said you could beat the elite 4 again if you beat them 15 times in a day that's 1755 dollars in one day do the calculations

[@Nagarath16]

Ash is probably so old that he's body would have turn into ash if he wouldn't be stuck in Peter Pan aging spell.

[@ZyrusSmith]

Taken from episode 74 of the Indigo League anime. "The contestants are competing to see which of them will rise to the rank of Pokemon Master." The anime directly states that winning the league is what makes you a master. Also from episode 13, Ash had the line "I want to become a Pokemon Master so my only goal is to make it to the league." So you don't even have to become champion or beat the Elite Four to be a master. You only have to win the league tournament.

[@ohhellno7437]

Wait, if parents choose to send out their kids despite MatPat's perceived loss of money, wouldn't that mean the vending machine he uses as a baseline is price gouging?

[@KittStone]

I don't usually speak up, but there are actual restaurants in the pokemon games that you could've accounted for in the prices of food, also, most of the dishes, which the *people* are eating are made with the berries that you can find and grow in the game, basically, you can make your own food and supplementive liquids out of things you find on your journey, like Brock, if you are using the anime. Ingredients such as milk and eggs can also be found in the game (From miltanks and breeding) and I bet that there is a pokemon version of wheat, since cake and bread exist, so making your own food using survivalist type farming (which on a wandering journey you would probably read up on beforehand). Not to mention that in the anime, Ash travels with 2 Gym leaders, who both probably have paychecks from the pokemon league as you said, and Brock is shown making/providing the food for the biggest part of the show. So you could most likely cut the costs of food from the journey (or at least Ash's) to lessen the cost of it. Also, since you didn't cut transportation, which in the average I assume you are using (the one that includes gas prices for owned motor vehicles, which are not used regularly by the characters in the show) you could have at least cut out gas prices because the most we see is the occasional train/boat ride since most of the transportation is done on foot. There are also the rare treasures like the gold nuggets that you get and sell for the real big bucks, increasing your profits by a large amount, plus if you get a lucky amulet (which you do in the majority of games) it would double your battle income. Some games also tackle the low income of pkmn trainers by offering jobs in hotels, serving at those aforementioned restaurants, and even becoming a farmhand. So the overall losses of the journey would be much less than you calculated :/ That being said I don't mean this as harmful in any way, just as some points that could have been added for more accuracy, because I love your videos *thumbs up*

[@raphaelpulmano2212]

And THAT'S WITHOUT HAPPY HOUR OR ROTOM MONEY

[@gerrybrown7488]

Damn that's a paragraph and a half

[@shadowzz3071]

“They start their journey on April 1st after their 10th birthday” I feel bad for that one kid that was born on the 2nd of April

[@kiwimannnn]

Thats my best friend

[@shadowzz3071]

@@kiwimannnn He shall be the oldest person to start on their pokemon adventure xD

[@cjisawesome9817]

Lol

[@nancythach5260]

What about 3rd? :3

[@Y20XTongvaLand]

Real world equivalent to having your birthday after September.

[@Apleut]

me: watching youtube in my pajamas eating chips MatPat: calculating the net worth of a character from a fictional universe about catching small monsters

[@athing.18]

1:27 GameTheory used Throw! It's super effective!

[@disasterrook2656]

Anyone else wish that MatPat would do a sort of post-Show livestream after theories where he would address questions or criticism for a particular theory? Because sometimes he gets a lot a flak or confusion from his fans and it’d be nice to have some clarification or follow up. I remember really early game theory where he actually had an episode dedicated to responding to comments and it was really fun. I know that there’s probably a chunk of people who won’t watch it but idk I think it’d be a fun way to connect with some of the more dedicated fans of the show

[@thatonepersonwithoutacreat7503]

DisasterRook YES that’s such a great idea!

[@rosscastaldi1460]

This is a great idea! I’ve seen posts discussing more about MatPats theories then MatPat does himself, like an analysis of his theories. Something like this would not only clear things up but improve his theories. Perhaps make a reddit post for it so it’d be easier to see comments as it wouldn’t be as crowded as KZbin or Twitter. Anyway this is a great idea that I hop MatPat will see and take into consideration at least!

[@DrStein-zo1im]

That`s an awesome idea! Hopefully he sees this :D

[@disasterrook2656]

Ross Castaldi Maybe It could also reduce his work load because he can do these in alternation with Game Theory so he might have more time to produce game theories so he can better research some of this stuff and just have less flak in general.

[@disasterrook2656]

That one person without a creative name Thank you but I want to point out that we don’t really know MatPat’s exact process in creating a game theory or running his channel so he’s probably thought of this before but decided not to a variety of reasons. For all we know that episode of GameTheory where he replied to comments could have tanked and just gained views over the half decade its existed so it looks like a success to us despite bieng a failure

[@NoiseBerryGames]

Hmm, I wonder how much it changes if you account for the fact that original Red and Green were released 20 years ago now. Does inflation change it at all?

[@superaws50]

Inflation = about 500 thousand

[@joshkern2042]

It does, but the second run would still only give you 1500 dollars and the first still only about 3000(I️ found an online inflation calculator)

[@malmasterson3890]

JaR Dev in soul silver I made almost 10 million currency. That's after buying a lot of crap to for the speedrun so yeah kanto may be a bust but JOHTO+KANTO makes you more than enough for steady living

[@levanalucard851]

Now we also need to look at it if we were to use the Amulet Coin as soon as it was given as well.

[@joshkern2042]

Superaws what do you mean, it’s only like double inflation not 250x

[@ProfessorMike64]

The question isn't "How rich is a Pokémon Trainer?", it's "Which region produces the richest Pokémon Trainer?"

[@thegrillkbm1731]

You should put that song on spotify

[@poggins]

Already on their

[@05Jared]

You can just use a pikachu for electricity. You can just use squirtle for water. You can just use snorlax as a bed. BOOM I FIXED THE PROBLEMS

[@onetwothreefour3957]

Jared Jones besides, you can sell all the random items you find on your way. all you really need are a few pokeballs and skill, that's it. heck, there are people out there that sell magicarps for 500 pokedollars (which is nothing and still considered a ripoff) so imagine how cheap magicarp meat must be. like come on, i am sure people in coastal towns in the pokeworld eat tons of fish just like in real life japan. and magicarps are so easy to fish aswell, like you dip your fishing rod into the water and mere seconds later a huge magicarp is on the other end of it. like, you dont even need a super fishing rod or anything, just the most basic one

[@SenorFluffy]

Onetwo Threefour in the anime when stranded in the ocean I'm pretty sure Jesse, James and Meowth try to eat a Magikarp only to comment how bad it tastes and how it's nothing but bone but it's been a while so don't quote me on this

[@SenorFluffy]

I'm not sure about squirtle for water considering it comes out of him but the other two still work

[@Shrampp]

What about foood?

[@markrennard9047]

Get a bee drill, honey has all nutrients needed to support life. Food solves too. And charmander if you need fire to be warm

[@adaywithgerardatthediamnds9633]

"Real life sucks." MatPat-2018 words of wisdom

[@banditgamingyt6575]

Maya Becker ikr

[@georgewashingtoadprod.6850]

@@banditgamingyt6575 hes the new gandhi

[@Pissgod639]

@Carlitos Likes Tacitos exactly man

[@theholycrusader4237]

@@Pissgod639 yes

[@elenabekovac4633]

When he said that you could feel it like deep within your soul

[@lucapoloni3650]

You can fight the elite 4 as many times as you want and with a level 100 pokemon you can ohko every pokemon they have. Elite 4 and the champ have 26 pokemon total so you can beat them in 26 turns plus a little walking. Even if each turn takes 1 minute you could beat them twice in an hour, so $117 to beat them all means you earn $234 PER HOUR! If you work a 38 hour week that you earn $462,384 A YEAR!

[@Kulkogo]

Actually, there are 5 things you forgot to mention in the video: the move Pay Day, the Amulet Coin, and the ability to rematch trainers, the Pokecoins from Pokémon Go, and the things you can sell (Stardust, Nuggets, Berrys, ETC…). Calculating the actual amount is pretty hard considering these.

[@jarofflowers8305]

Matpat: I should calculate ash’s age Me from the future: no you shouldn’t it gets very messed up

[@jambr054]

I want ash’s ageless age

[@raresnaftan3977]

Jambr0 even if you have to be 10 forever?

[@miraculousabridged2857]

agreed

[@Dr.Meme-Man]

Jambr0 Guess that means that I can't join the Gucci Gang.

[@JohnnyZL.]

Ikr

[@penapvp2230]

no he is 10 forever

[@claratalbot7613]

This is why if I was in the Pokemon world I would become a Professor or Pokemon researcher so I can spend my days enjoying the company of & understanding Pokemon

[@lukebbm]

9:54 Ah yes, can't forget the gun incase of misbehavior..

[@Lawrence_Krystle]

"Random Stranger wants to Battle!" Give me your money, you lost.

[@lauren3lizabeth4]

You are so stupid

[@cynicalaudax]

@@lauren3lizabeth4 Where did that even come from?

[@slevinchannel7589]

Matt Pat completly ignores so much in this Video, it's laughable. He claims to research sooo much, but in the End, does he really? Just counting the very First Game is pretty dump. In Recent Games, you earn that much (his End Result here) just by defeating the Elite Four ONCE. Just counting the first game, that is old, and not representative of anything... why? So, yeah, these Numbers mean literally Nothing. Thanks, Game Theorists.

[@qwertysysysyysysysyzz]

@@slevinchannel7589 who tf r u anyways? You sound like an asshole who got bullied.

[@fancy_rattus]

@@slevinchannel7589 it's a pokemon theory calm yourself down

[@grandthanatos]

Please calculate Ash's age, MatPat. I'm very interested in finding that out...as well as if he has some sort of disease and that's why he never seems to get past age 10.

[@alexc3337]

Rami Ungar well, he did die twice... once when he was facing the psychic gym and his soul left his body, and in that Pokemon movie with Mewtwo...

[@DemonicSteve]

Alex C also in the first episode

[@epicpokenerd_GOLR]

while old mandjtv already made this video

[@BarpleBapkins]

Hes a saiyan duh they dont age until they 80 why has nobody actually figured this out

[@Hayds126]

Well assuming each episode equates to one day. Over 1000 episodes so he must be 13-14 give or take I guess.

[@jakeetter2822]

There is also the aspect of merchandise. There are stuff like pokeberries and apricorns that you can grow and sell.

[@spicy701]

That intro is practically a reality check for mat pat

[@SparkleChord]

I want Ash's age!!!!1!!1! ...Yes, I did count exactly how many exclamation marks and 1s there were in the on-screen image to write this comment. You're welcome.

[@mlgcactus1035]

Sparkle Chord is that a meme

[@sykeskills896]

same

[@roberte.o.speedwagon5786]

Love your oc profile pic And yes we need his cannon age

[@imachangedname2978]

Sparkle Chord 10

[@KratosAurionPlays]

I mean it's not like he put a million of them in that sentence lol

[@Netheraptr]

Since Ash walks everywhere, I feel like you wouldn’t need to include transportation, and the Pokémon universe seems to have free healthcare so I don’t think you’d need to include those expenses either. That would probably cut about a third of the remaining price off.

[@qapiojg]

Free healthcare is probably the least realistic part of the series. That many people out of the workforce having to be supported by everyone else doing jobs and being taxed to cover it all. That place would look like Venezuela.

[@ImPolonn]

@@qapiojg a million times worse than venezuela for sure

[@qwerte9]

@@qapiojg In many places in Europe it is very typical. The healthcare is free (at least for the most common services), but you have to pay a lot of taxes to cover it. Quality is another issue of course but the healthare is free.

[@ashlynjones3525]

qapiojg canada. Just. Canada

[@DarthLahey479]

@@ashlynjones3525 it's still not free in Canada lol. I'm not complaining, but it's most certainly not free.

[@JacobSmith-fh3kb]

"Line line swoop" should have been smiley face

[@shrs06_]

0:43 Why are they smiling amusedly at PatMat?

[@daikatarokamegawa542]

Honestly, I was expecting the calculation to be based on the single, constantly proffitable item in the game that exists in real life, the nugget. A solid chunk of gold, would have DRAMATICALLY changed the calculations.

[@aroventalmav888]

Daikataro Kamegawa Is the weight of the Nugget stated?

[@LaCrownedGamer]

Daikataro Kamegawa that's not necessary for being a pokemon master. Buying and selling would not be something every trainer does, just yours. It would change the calculations but they would not be accurate. He calculated the ratings you make solely on your journey to the top, only using lemonade as a comparison tool to the real world.

[@daikatarokamegawa542]

Aroven Talmav That's the thing, I can't remember whether or not it is, or what references are given, since I'm not a theorist. Point is, the au lait is a real world item, modelled after the game, while the chunk of gold is a real world item, that already existed, thrown into the game.

[@daikatarokamegawa542]

Gamer, that's exactly my point; the au lait was born into the game, and shortly after, thrown into the real world as a novelty item, while the nugget, aka gold, has one, always existed in the real world and two, always been valuable, and a fairly reliable tool for calculating value. Just my opinion of course, but I stand that the nugget was a superior choice, when calculating the value of a pokedollar. NOW! Hold on a second we might have something in our hands. While the weight itself, is never stated, one, all the entries say it is made out of pure, high quality gold, and very important two, it has a fling power of 30, putting it on a weight scale with several other items. I'm certain Matpat could go on from there, I just won't since like I said, I ain't no theorist and am lazy.

[@LaCrownedGamer]

Daikataro Kamegawa oh I'm sorry I actually read your first comment wrong. :-( what I thought you meant was that why didn't he put in items such as the Nugget as a reliable source of income. The only reason I can assume that he didn't use the Nugget instead of the lemonade would probably be because gold values fluctuate dramatically and very constantly as well as they differ from around the world.

[@queenkitten7092]

How could you say “Naruto run” but not say “smiley face?”

[@samuelmorris7846]

naruto batir

[@Technowizard811]

I want to see this with the Amulet Coin numbers and the items you find around the game-world. It might be just enough to get you into some sort of green space.

[@Han_Solo6712]

“Or Brock, if you’re into having no eyes.” Tom from Eddsworld: Am I a joke to you?

[@bokbok4711]

Lmao I’m wearing headphones and at 0:20 when you had the soft voice singing along I go rely scared because I could have sworn someone was singing in my room 😂

[@katinkamoosthomsen1416]

Me too!

[@HatsunePeeku]

I know I'm late to this comment but same. I took my headphones off like 5 times to check

[@sillypepsi222]

Same ;-;

[@gray3693]

same

[@provolonefatboy5875]

HOLY-

[@blue-eyeddestructionswords8925]

OH NO!!! Game Theory has had a good drumroll for the first time. What is happening to Game Theory?!

[@tracywdavis]

he's using honey. 😎

[@snowbrrd1619]

Why hello there, friend!

[@blue-eyeddestructionswords8925]

why hello back

[@jacobotoole2105]

Blue-Eyed Destruction Swordsman they’re moving up in the world

[@snowbrrd1619]

jacob Otoole Too bad that life has microtransactions

[@Okami-Celestial]

Intro song is just….CHEFS KISS!! This should be the new Pokémon intro song!

[@madnessarcade7447]

7:40 those are mistranslations The general director of the anime kunihiko iyama already gave us a canon answer why ash doesn’t age He says “I viewed the anime as a story that captured the feel of a day of summer vacation in one’s childhood of children venturing on a trip into the unknown exploring a world without parents alongside their friends and others who they engage along the way” “In the setting of the animation the main character ash is forever ten years old and the background season is forever early summer” “Sometimes it gets cold in the mountains or it could be hot, those changes happen by traveling” “Fundamentally it is forever early summer and he is forever ten years old and on top of that a day of summer vacation repeats perpetually” “This is what I hoped to create” “ a view of the world that would be ideal for children (addlibbed by me: and young at heart)”

[@nyteshade8125]

It doesn't explain why it's Christmas in some of the special episodes. And the other holidays matpat says this episode

[@gavros9636]

You forgot about Payday, Level 100 Meowth holding an Amulet Coin will dish out 10000 Pokedollers per use.

[@epic9163]

True Lol

[@AlanisBored]

mm, i think it's more like 1000 per use, since Pay Day's yield is lvl*5, and double that cause of the amulet coin

[@thomas-isaacarcino2081]

Amulet Coin was not introduced until generation II

[@ggnore2036]

D Wells well frick ive been doing it wrong.

[@asrithsk4773]

Money comes from pokemon in the pokemon world thats why giovani has a persian and the mom in USUM has a meowth.

[@thomas-isaacarcino2081]

Why would you use old generations for these costs? You earn a lot more money in newer generations. Defeating Rainbow Rocket can get you 2 million $P in Pokemon Ultra Sun and Moon. You get 57,000 $p from battling the elite four, which can double if you have an amulet coin equipped. You can also rematch the elite four and take on new challengers for the Champion title for an additional 2,000 $p per battle. With an amulet coin, that's an extra 20,000 $p. "But what about the mediocre trainers you encounter in-game?" you might ask. You have to consider what their title is before battling* them, for example Artist . Pokemon battling is a hobby to these people, and not a main source of income. Notice how actual trainers are either young, veterans, or Aces. The youngsters are just starting out, they won't realize how strong you actually have to be in order to be a professional. Aces and Veterans on the other hands give more money upon defeat. Why? Because pokemon battling is their profession. In the end, pokemon battling is like being an entertainer, whether that entertainer is an artist, actor, or musician, you either make it and profit, or you don't and you find yourself doing something else. Like being a Bug Maniac Edits marked with * - Changed encountering to battling

[@elle.mack.wednesday]

Thomas-Isaac Arcino because everything past gen 4 isn’t canon

[@thomas-isaacarcino2081]

Pokemon pulled a DC/Marvel comics in gen 7 and made everything cannon by establishing a multiverse.

[@shawlamzaking8145]

that $12,000... is it based on the more recent years or based on the time the game was released? i mean that would be a vital thing for the price to be converted to considering the current cost to raise a child would be far less back then compared to now...

[@thomas-isaacarcino2081]

The amulet coin was also introduced in gen 2, and you still earn more money battling the elite four in gen 4 than you would in gen 1.

[@sfsin3380]

plus most careers in the Pokémon world require Pokémon from construction(Machop etc.) to health care (Chansey) even if you don't plan on becoming a Pokémon master a journey to catch and train Pokémon in your chosen field is likely a required starting point.

[@linkthehero8431]

Okay, can we just agree that MatPat is a better singer than a lot of Grammy winners?

[@raiden_shogun8370]

Heck yeah❤

[@saintxix1309]

Fast forward to Scarlet/Violet where gym leader Larry has to moonlight as an E4 member to help pay the bills.

[@mandiehuns1602]

Loyal Theorist of PatMat I want Ash's age!!!!1!!1!

[@noahtuneslaunchpad678]

*When you arrive a bit late to MatPat's video and wonder why literally everyone is typing "I want Ash's age" in the comment section*

[@noahtuneslaunchpad678]

*when you reply to your own comment*

[@tjbarrett3995]

*when you find a normal person*

[@ixchel4784]

When you agree with a comment

[@imrandomperson5]

*when you randomly comment on this comment*

[@chamanvao9194]

*WHEN YOU COMMENT "WHEN YOU" IN ALL CAPITAL LETTERS*

[@chickenman57378]

mat : it takes 52 hours to beat the game me who beat omega ruby in 8 hours : understandable.

[@richardkirkland6805]

Actually, later games *DO* show that gym leaders are willing to perform rematches with challengers that already beat them

[@chavan1]

I want Ash's age

[@disowned2821]

Czava YT xD

[@ajturtleproductions8358]

I am ash’s age!

[@EulieChambers]

I want Ash's age

[@beebonius]

t e n

[@silverdialga0358]

Eulie Chambers actually thanks to alola’s rules, you have to be 11 to become a trainer. So ash finally grew a year.

[@jasonreich264]

so do i

[@woomod2445]

I want Ash's age

[@anoriginalname7121]

!!!1!1!!!

[@tot.taxi.]

As someone who can read Japanese writing, I didn’t know how to feel when you were giving names to the Kanji and Katakana symbols 😂 it was great

[@jakeetter2822]

I think the one aspect of the financial situation is grown up support. The parents pay for the expense that you don't see in the games. That is probably why Misty stayed with Ash the longest, she doesn't have a grown up to support her.

[@cassidyruffing4031]

I think there are some factors you didn't add or forgot like in the anime and the game Nurse Joy heals your Pokemon for free, so you technically don't need items except pokeballs. I'm the anime you can sleep/shower there for free. In the games you can find gold, pearls, fossils, etc of which you can sell. Berries to grow for free that you can give to your Pokemon and yourself. Not to mention items you can gain from a newly caught Pokemon, Pokemon with moves that can steal items, and items that are gifted to you for helping or for no reason. Also some later games have areas where you can dig stuff for free, to sell for money, or resteraunts where you can battle trainers whenever and earn money back, as seen in gen 4 or oras to name a few.

[@ceoofjeanneism6777]

Cassidy Ruffing the anime isn't cannon

[@yaksher]

Even with no costs, you're still only making a couple thousand at most.

[@cassidyruffing4031]

animegod of greatness he used the anime, that's the only reason I brought it up

[@FeinryelRavenclaw]

I want Ash’s age! (Side note: maybe do a film theory for Evil Dead Ash?)

[@bipperpines9924]

Jaedon McDonald Ash has been 12 fo 19 year

[@joshuadavenport-herbst2036]

Agreed

[@ayushjha1161]

The Kanto region doesn't give an average figure. I am pretty sure it's a below average region in terms of money. Other regions have space centers, ancient forts, bridges made of solar panels. Leon is canonically the strongest trainer in the world while Kanto doesn't even have it's own champion and has to contend with Lance.

[@harrymillar4193]

Fun Fact: In Pokemon Sword and Shield, the Champion actually does interviews and has sponsors. There is also a jobs system in the PC

[@Karma-wb7et]

I want Ash's age! Please!

[@Starsmelter]

Jonathon Carter just check fandom wiki or literally google for which series.

[@hikaruishida1420]

He's 10

[@TheRezro]

When boys start grow mustaches? So that is his age. And if it isn't obvious yet time of the show work different then real life. All series take place in spawn of maybe few years inside universe.

[@ItsGemystic]

No but yeah I actually really wanna see Ash’s age now

[@rattmane]

agree wee need that age

[@jamrenzee]

Man, no wonder I was always broke and desperate for money in my Ruby playthrough.

[@angrymandanthecommenter]

It would've been an absolute troll to put a midroll right after the "at least its wasn't a midroll" part

[@reiko3488]

Objection, Matpat your theory was well thought out but you forget that as trainers travel they also find many valuable items such as the star piece or amulet coin which can be sold to the shop for a good amount of money and as for food the Pokemon centers offer free food and housing for trainers, and most times trainers eat any fruits or berries found around them as seen in Pokemon black and white the third episode with an apple tree , not to mention theirs always that underage gambling (special mini games) in the games, along with the fact that the transportation part of the cost should be cut as trainers use their Pokemon or get free rides where they need to go as shown in ORAS with the boat man with his peeko

[@yellowtrickster69]

Also Tropius/Shuckle

[@cuponoodles2709]

The game detective, you are a genius

[@Swagner]

smart

[@Nit0WasTaken]

I also feel like taking the amount of time for the journey from the anime but the amount of battles and money you get from the games to be not reasonable. The anime and games are too different for cross referencing.

[@seanmcfadden3712]

Don't forget the trainers with a Pokèmon that has the ability pick up. Seriously, my last playthrough of Ruby had my linoone as mvp purely because of the free healing items and gold nuggets he was finding.

[@nuclear1071]

I think you forgot that food healthcare, and shelter are provided FOR FREE in the pokemon center

[@The_hot_blue_fire_guy]

Maybe Pokémon healthcare but what about human health?

[@impunkos]

We just gotta get a Pokemon region based off of Canada (or any other country that has universal healthcare.)

[@Atlessa]

@@impunkos So basically all the regions except Unova.

[@mimics9508]

Transportation can also be cut since they just walk town to town or fly using a pokemon

[@akumakuroi8610]

Actually Nurse Joy has treated trainers in the past as well. Like if they were badly injured as well. She'd really have no choice but to do so or call a hospital while she's treating the trainer's unconscious pokemon

[@mrred1255]

The facts that you mentioned the bike at 4000 dollars already begs the question of all your reasoning

[@RealPanzer999]

What if the lemonade is just extremely expensive? That would make theorising very difficult but would also make it make more sense.

[@chasehamer8641]

i don't just want ash's age. I want him to age.

[@JericoSullivan]

You and every other fan of the anime, dude. Trust me.

[@alorahodgins936]

Chase Hamer for real!

[@solar7427]

I think he is 11 now in the anime, idk for sure tho

[@andremation]

That’s why old trainers usually have a career like “Old Fisherman Dale want’s to fight” but young trainers are just referred to as “Lass” or “Youngster”. They grow up and get a job but they still hold on to their pokemon and keep battling, though now it’s just a hobby.

[@logeyperogi1805]

No wonder the Gentlemen trainers tend to pay decent amounts and have some decent Pokemon on their side, they’ve had those Pokemon for years and have more money to give

[@idkbcidk8228]

Me:Oh hey stranger Stranger:Hey! Pokémon trainers:Let’s battle Stranger:Sure Pokémon trainers:I won gimme al ur money

[@skynet3]

MatPat-“Pokémon masters are broke” Me: Laughs in 3,000,000 Pokédollars