Evony- All about Subordinate City Generals

[@ktisafox]

I needed to watch this month's ago. I have zero Jacksons except I have one in frags .

[@robertwilliams2995]

Thank you that helps a lot. Have 3 Jacksons, Nordic Barbarian King, 2 Neros, 3 Arminus and a host of others making hard to chose

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

Nordic, then as many jacksons as you can use...

[@katrinatinker8250]

I am fairly confused about so much related to Evony. This video - and the one about the clothing for subordinate city Generals - helped. However, I am still a little confused. I am a member of your Discord group, but... sometimes I wonder how accurate the other players are when they give advice, because sometimes the advice from different players is conflicting. Are you able to respond to specific questions?

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

yes, ask away in the group

[@Dunkingdad1]

Hi. Ideas on skill books for sub generals, if we don’t have debuff skill books in our server?

[@michaelhamilton-piercy6703]

Thanks for the info.. Holy crap... it's going to take a thousand years to gear my sub city generals lol... so basically you need 6 andrew Jacksons

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

if you want to be well rounded...yes

[@m.a.o3273]

@@gamingaddictswithgenghis what about the sub general specialty?

[@MarkRogowsky]

@@m.a.o3273 The Snipe (or other debuff) in specialty 2 is worth building over time. The others are almost never worth building.

[@abdulkareem67]

I wonder which sub city should i have for defense if you can have a video on that it would be grateful

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

Russian

[@franciscocunanan5570]

Do i need to cultivate sub general or it's pointless?

[@Diesel44030]

Can you review the new decoration castles in the cake tomorrow and their buffs. Would love to hear your thoughts if it’s worth it.

[@Dijone_1]

With your point about late game being about rallies so not much need to debuff mounted hp, how does Andrew Jackson stack up late game?

[@leewiren8404]

I've heard that Jackson only stacks twice, so having more than 2 is a waste... been told there are a few that only stack twice and some don't stack at all.... that was a while ago, has something changed or have I heard wrong?

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

you heard wrong...as of today and for the last year and a half..prior to this..there was 0 stacking

[@cally2011]

Would lile to have seen a bit about the monster debuff generals. Solo bus with sub building books. Works for naps.

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

Im going to do a monster general day as well as mounted coming up

[@mortred3466]

woaw that is one ' all about' subordinate city generals' and there is no answer for does sub city generals' items applied to their army

[@troyvsc]

Is there a point to growing your sub city to high levels? It doesn't seem like it, as the benefit of type(Epic/Legendary)/culture and the general/gear are far more important.

[@umlax45]

Not really, gems are better spent on generals

[@ericjohnson8059]

What skill books do you use in sub generals? I put construction speed training speed and rebirth. Probably not worth it but whatever. Keep up the good work on Channel

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

ya that is standard, thanks

[@seekeroftruth9200]

What if you don’t have enough gear to put on your sub generals? Wouldn’t generals like Baldwin and Harald be better as Andrew Jackson without gear?

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

you will eventually get gear...but baldwin is better regardless

[@evonyhell5434]

Hey.. great video. Just a questions about the general's skills. For example let's use Andrew Jackson. He debuffs range attack. It seems you are implying that the debuff range attack only works while on defense? I thought in every attack and defense, attack, hp, and defense comes into play. Does this mean that if I attack with Andrew Jackson in my sub, it will not debuff range attack?

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

No..I am saying both range attack and horse HP debuff work on attacking and defending...BUT the horse HP debuff is more important for attacking than it is for defense...it will also debuff archer attack both ways but its not as important to debuff archers when attacking because most people attacking with a solo attack are using archers to attack with and those archers will have archer range bonus and most defenders will not have archer range bonus, so the archers on the attack have the advantage. Hope that covers it all

[@evonyhell5434]

@@gamingaddictswithgenghis ok makes sense.. thanks for the clarification.

[@NuttyButtery846]

Ghengis, is there any real reason to cultivate a sc general since the cultivation would have minimal effect?

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

Get it to 900 leadership and politics

[@NuttyButtery846]

@@gamingaddictswithgenghis Thanks for the reply. I agree, but really, the only one that REALLY needs to be accomplished is politics to increase the Death to Wounded percentage. With leadership, you get faster training speed, but in the end, 25k troops is relatively useless so it doesn't matter how fast they get trained. Am I reading this wrong or is it pretty much personal preference.

[@asifchoudhury395]

Also i saw someone with 9 neros whats your viewpoint for that?

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

old school player...nero used to be awesome

[@queenlip6152]

After awhile, players will have so many lower-level gears and less of the good ones that it's just good policy to slap them on all the sub generals. IMO, any kind of buffs to help the troops stay alive after being attacked so that the generals' debuffs still work is good business. It's harder now than before to get dragon gear and above. I've complained many times to CS on not getting any gear after hitting a dozen B10s & above that I given up complaining and settled to getting them whenever I can.

[@ericjohnson8059]

I have 2 Baldwin 1 Nordic barbarian 1 cnut 5 Andrew Jackson's, i also have have 1 Darius and 2 Amr 1 constantine on standby perhaps a change I'm future

[@GgG-l3w2r]

Got a question .. buffs cap at 4 of the same debuff gen in subs ? No ?

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

no

[@ThisisDaniel]

Nice review. I have 9 subs available and they were occupied by the wrong generals for a long time. I'm talking Princess Lucy and Constance wrong at the start (I know)... That said, I now have Himiko, Nordic Barbarian King, AJ, Edward the Black, Darwin, Cnut, Arminus - currently cultivating a second AJ and a Dowager Cixi. In the meantime, Charles Martel is boosting construction and Boudica was gaining EXP from kills.

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

If I were you I would use Barbarian, Cnut, AJ, AJ, Cixi, Arminus, and whoever depending on your subs....and replace them in reverse order when you get better gens.

[@ThisisDaniel]

@@gamingaddictswithgenghis Nice tip, I got Cixi quite late. Sidenite - the Tavern was giving some decent generals two weeks ago, I got three Jindeok's after about 3 months of playing.

[@fuzzybunny4muny]

I was also making alot of mistakes. I learned by watching the strong people in my servers, would even study the battle reports etc from SVS to learn different varieties of tactics. Evony is all about learning and sharpening your skills along the way, it's awesome to learn something new and always get stronger!

[@patrick-xw1ym]

How does david farragut rank for debuffing? He got released during this event

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

Initially I am not a fan..but I would keep him and wait and see

[@patrick-xw1ym]

​@@gamingaddictswithgenghis I haven't bought him yet as I wasn't sure about him. Someone in my alliance said that he is good because he covers all troop types, but also heard that he isn't good as he gives some debuffs that aren't needed and its better to get Andrew Jacksons

[@cally2011]

Wish they had sub city presets

[@elijahhaar4584]

Why no Cnut the Greats?

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

I talked about him at the end..hes elite if you got him

[@rickrodriguez717]

Does the refining on seiges gear work to help the main keep?

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

if you mean sub gear....it only helps that particular sub

[@rickrodriguez717]

The subs have no seiges?

[@rickrodriguez717]

@@gamingaddictswithgenghis ok so I refined some of my gear in the subs with max seiges attack so that’s a waste of refining since the sub has no seiges?

[@משהוולף-ש3נ]

Bro!! You are awesome 👌

[@claudiofernande1384]

Hey bro what you said also about the Margaret I ?.

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

backup...use her til you get more jacksons

[@NM-pc1sy]

Do sub cities help reinforcements ? Or do they not work

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

they do not

[@magnusekstrand3510]

Does specialty skills on sub generals like AJ's Snipe (-1 - 10% against attack) work and stack on sub generals

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

no

[@UWAIS_941]

SERIOUSLY? 😳 SNIPE ON SUB GENERALS IS A WASTE OF RUNESTONES? 🤔 BUT TOWARDS THE END YOU SAID GET THESE SPECIALTIES UP TO PURPLE... SO WHICH IS IT?

[@MarkRogowsky]

@@UWAIS_941 Yes, this seems like a wrong comment. It's just another debuff. It should absolutely work and stack. That said, it's easier to get 3 generals up to purple than one to yellow. So I've been spreading it around for more total effect.

[@hartlmarty2951]

Good video - the problem is in battlefield i mostly get force ported some times at the beginning and my sub city troops are dead :-( No idea what to do there...

[@worldboss9580]

Unlink subs and work a bit on sub Training speed to recover

[@hartlmarty2951]

@@worldboss9580 Right, I forgot to unlink the subs before I need them for debuffs :-) Thanks, WORLD BOSS

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

wait for them to regenerate or turn off the subs so they dont die..and turn them back on for the real defense

[@ktisafox]

Thank you!

[@danielcook2794]

How come you moved to NEF?

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

they are the best

[@ilben1238]

What about Maximilian?

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

he is for mounted attack

[@phh.8393]

I'm more a monster hunter and a gatherer because I feel bad whenever I attack especially smaller players, so I don't participate in KE. but lately I'm ranking well in SVS, battlefield and Barbarian events so I need to prioritize my pvp learning. I'm a K29, non-coiner, with decent tech. I'm only just waiting for consuming event to be a K30. I have an Andrew Jackson, Musa (1 star ascended) and William Wallace as debuff generals (I only have 7 subs). Now I can get a free general as a Trial of Knight reward. So I should get Nordic over Baldwin or Amr right?

[@makarov9x186]

Still waiting on a video to explain 1000% buffs across the board for defense. Just new research or what?

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

ya its a combination of things...science, treasures, monarch gear, gear....bottom line if you want it...you gonna pay$$$

[@NM-pc1sy]

Do sub gens work when reinforcing?

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

No

[@NM-pc1sy]

My Leonidas has been attack first attacked by mounted martinis! Need sub city recipe

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

get more troops

[@lelandlordjr9808]

Musa a good sub gen?

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

good until you get someone better

[@GgG-l3w2r]

Wait did you say ground HP is not that important to debuff ??.. and ground troop attack .. no gear has debuff for that ..so wei Qing is actually important lol

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

if you really load up on ground attack sub gens you can debuff a fair amount...otherwise no chance

[@youngjohn5076]

Nordic barbarian to me is the best range de buff . 30% off attack

[@Ed19859]

I found an epic npc gold sub city while looking for bosses to hit. Come to find out, someone won it during sub city searching but did not attack it to claim it as their own. It's a Korean sub. I'm keeping that.

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

Awesome I did the same.same sub...

[@araphena0303]

One of my people, back when we were littles, won a Legendary and didn't know what to do with it so she left it there

[@Ed19859]

@@araphena0303 lol 😂

[@asifchoudhury395]

How about 6 andrew jacksons - 3 arminius for (9 subs)

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

yes but id try and turn those 3 arminus into something better hes a backup sub gen at this point.

[@calicorapid]

This is pretty flawed advice. You really should be trying to debuff every stat by 50% with the new buffs its very important to debuff ground hp since new ground gens have 1200% ground hp and defense with archduke and 9 full sets of debuff gear you still have a tough time halving these stats.

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

Yes but the issue is you can't...some are easy to get 50...then there is ground att which is impossible...horse attack has become difficult...archer attack and horse hp are always difficult and yet the two most important..id love to see your stats that help you debuff everything to 50...also ground HP is easy to debuff..so no sense using a sub gen to get it...

[@TecniclyAwsm]

i have that exact set up,lol

[@zeck8541]

How dare you skip Margaret lol.

[@arielpolkinghorne999]

I had a guy hit me with 9 cnut in there subs

[@gamingaddictswithgenghis]

big spender

[@youngjohn5076]

Cnut the great is the best