Forza Motorsport 2023 vs Forza Motorsport 7 - WHAT IS CHANGING?

[@markuschief4472]

You may have wanted to keep the video short and simple, but you have omitted lots of important details while covering things that aren't as important. 3 performance options, evolving career mode, dynamic weather on EVERY track, those things are more important points than "no spectator mode"

[@trappedintimesurroundedbye5477]

maybe you should just make a fucking video then

[@mitsuvolts03]

Standards of a next gen racing game and yet they don't have spectator mode

[@Andybarney555]

​@@mitsuvolts03whats the point in it really? Takes up bandwidth and slows a server for what?

[@mitsuvolts03]

@@Andybarney555 a multibillion dollar company cant solve that?

[@XechoX419X]

​@@mitsuvolts03bro thinks turn10 is a multi"BILLION" dollar company ☠️

[@collabsphotography]

I don't know why, but in this video, they talk about better graphics compared to Forza 7 and all its advantages. When I first tried it, I remember how incredibly disappointed I was in the graphics. When you choose 60 fps, your image is extremely blurry, and the polygons build up way too slowly, making the graphics look very sad. Forza 7 is the clear winner for me, and I'm sorry that it was removed from the store.

[@Luney_0296]

The only thing about this that I find negative, is that the amount of upgrades possible, is dependent on the car level. I wanna be able to upgrade based on how much credits I have. Not the car level. Weird way to limit something that doesn't need limiting

[@demonreturns4336]

Internet required is all I needed to know that I no longer care about the game - fuck that

[@natgrant1364]

I don't get why they're doing that. I have no interest in multiplayer so why should it matter?

[@demonreturns4336]

I don't mind a game having multiplayer for those that are into it, but I also like having offline career mode as well but the problem these days is they want to make any and every game a live service that always require an internet connection or else the game is useless and I just won't support that kinda stuff with my money @@natgrant1364

[@A1uc47d]

🏴‍☠️ it

[@mightygoodgaming2219]

I'm looking forward to it. Always love the forza series

[@mr.2cents.846]

Am going to have to get the Series X.

[@FightPropaganda]

​@@mr.2cents.846ebay.

[@3KPK3]

Looks freaking amazing, but I can't put down Starfield. Dang it!

[@Mark-mu4pj]

Same lol

[@alanbitts]

The loading screens in Starfield gets pretty old after some time.

[@jazzyje5ter223]

@@alanbittsit’s expected it’s a Bethesda game

[@highmm2696]

Please have the option to add ai/CPU Racers in private matches

[@Phenom98]

I'm so hyped for this game. Been replaying the 360 games and they still hold up. Xbone generation was mid asf. Can't wait to go from the 2005 console I'm playing rn to my 4060ti PC!

[@christopherbassit2757]

Forza 6 is unmatched

[@ivojakobsons9338]

Hello! I wonder if it will be possible to play on my configuration i5-9600k 16gb ram gtx 1050ti 4gb! What do you mean by minimum drag?

[@sipes90]

It’s going to be perfect. I can NOT wait until the 5th 😭

[@Phenom98]

It's looking very promising ngl.

[@rabbidcrazy787]

Why will the game have fewer cars than the past few titles? And are we gonna ignore the fact that pickup trucks, SUVs, and vans are absent?

[@Nxrdycars]

I have one question can anyone give me the link for the game on steam?

[@jokast8861]

minimum requirement for pc is gtx1060. My pc is gtx 1650 so can i play this game?

[@SpaniardNL]

Well, single player got killed, most game modes disappeared as well asthe tracklist. Most other stuff is copy paste from before. Copy pasted from the ground up.

[@nikolaig1]

Does it take 3 hours to up grade 1 car?

[@mattmanley7118]

The progression has me very worried, but hopefully the free tracks will be worth it over the coming years. I’m going to play on game pass. If I really like it, I will purchase whatever edition I choose the progression system, however, has me halting in my tracks.

[@gamebuddy69]

Still no news about Auction House, Livery Editor, selling vinyls/designs/tunings etc... ??????

[@Greenbean5673]

Obviously it’s going to have that every forza does

[@koen9363]

Sounds like every two sentences for this video were written for youtube shorts. Kind of annoying in a full video.

[@Fatt_Tony]

I have loved the forza series for a long time, but I've never liked the car packs. Putting cars behind a pay wall is dirty. I wish they'd stop it already.

[@mr.2cents.846]

Wow 500 cars to start. 👍👍 Is the '88 Pontiac Fiero in there too? I hope the daytime does not go over fast.

[@rabbidcrazy787]

That sucks. It has less cars than Horizon 5 & Motorsport 7.

[@klapaucius500]

Multiclass racing? Like Prototypes in the same race as GT? Still yet to see that.

[@DCFTW68]

What about customization 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@LastRazerEater]

MS just announced that this will be FM most customized game !!! 😮

[@rabbidcrazy787]

​@@LastRazerEaterIf only the game didn't have fewer cars than Horizon 5 & didn't remove utility cars from the game. I want Land Rover back!

[@LastRazerEater]

@@rabbidcrazy787 MS just announced Land Rovers and utility cars are coming back !!! 😳

[@rabbidcrazy787]

@@LastRazerEater The car lists I saw for this game don't show Land Rover or any SUVs. They also don't show any pickup trucks or vans despite being in FM7.

[@steezwrekka7264]

My biggest issue w FM6 and 7 is the cars do not feel heavy, its always slippery. It has never done a good job where rubber meets the road. This looks the same.

[@mp9228]

As someone who has played every game in the franchise, they obviously made the mainline games feel more like horizon because of its popularity I guess. Big mistake

[@HatsuneM1ku01]

@@mp9228Motorsport 4 was peak

[@HatsuneM1ku01]

@@mp9228kinda miss the random people you’d meet on fujimi nights 😓 360 was a different vibe. I made all sorts of friends as the 360 just somehow brought people together in lobbies. I’ve yet to make a single friend on the new gen in any lobbies. No one even talks anymore on their mics either as it’s all party based now and you can’t talk to ransoms in game

[@mp9228]

@@HatsuneM1ku01 it literally can’t be because they cut customization options from forza Motorsport 3

[@LilSmitty41]

Is there Drafting in this game? 🤔

[@thomasgraham1200]

Brands hatch and top gear track not on game is a bad change

[@Big_pancake73]

what about rivals mode...is that back...like it was in Forza 7 and 6...thanks...and where is the alps track lol..

[@aidan404]

It is back, alps isn’t

[@alfascav1754]

Simple truth is, I might play it for another day or so on game pass, but I certainly wont be spending the hundreds of dollars they're asking for a "car pass" are they being serious right now? the car pass edition is nearly $200 here!

[@sebastianberger746]

RayTracing the final nail in the coffin for me

[@Shabssaif]

The next Gen games are getting expensive beyond the standard USD 60. Upgraded graphics are coming at a cost. Rumours are that Gta 6 will be 150 dollars even though it does not seem true still it won't be less than 100. Good thing is here is that you can play this game via game pass but not for others.

[@rileyvosper411]

GTA 6 is probably gonna be standard 100 or 110 (aud)

[@Nero-dz5gr]

forza 7 has been taken down from stores after 4 years. So you need to get motorsport. Thats a bit of a dictator move:" You dont have to be good, all you need to do is kill the alternatives."

[@AHLDN]

Heard career modd is online only

[@mp9228]

The car cup builder mode is, to deter cheating. It’s basically you have to race to get exp for your car to unlock things but it doesn’t cost credits. I guess you get feedback on your performance as well. Sounds fun, but all of the cars will be curated, so you don’t really get to pick what car you can do this with. Big shot in the foot if you ask me

[@rev2xs]

How is it that Assetto (1st game from 2014), with a community gfx mod looks better than this? What the hell have turn10 been doing all this time? Hard pass for me

[@highmm2696]

The colours look soo washed, it's like they're trying to hide detail.

[@Andybarney555]

No no it doesnt. Can come along as a modder and hack a game engine.... try making the game!!!

[@mp9228]

Because there’s 20% the content. No car customization, no buy

[@luiscorchado3930]

Anyone think they should give like $3 million in Horizon 5 for Fidelity before the release of Forza 2023?

[@joeyg.p9621]

I wish that had done a rollback feature and put it on Xbox One. The game looks more fun than GT7. I regret getting a PS5 for GT7 instead of a Series X. :(

[@ben_braaf]

You have the title wrong😮😮😮

[@ElohimMethh]

The fact that you need an RTX 2080 TI just for the high settings it's kind of a deal breaker for a lot of people...I can play FM7 on 4k mostly ultra settings with an RTX 2060 (laptop) and an I5 10300H...

[@AugustineKusiDuah-bk4fr]

Buh u know FM7 came out in 2017, 6 years ago

[@rileyvosper411]

Well it doesn’t say what res, 2080ti could be 4K 60 high for all we know.

[@apexguru6244]

HOW TO PLAY 4K ON A 1080P MONITOR? 😁😁

[@zanychelly]

Xbots hyped it to hell and back… and now it doesn’t seem to be that different… still more arcade than simulator, RT is capped and Dynamic resolution(Xbots insisted in 4K + RT) I hope they don’t get disappointed… as for me, I still want GT7 on PC. 3:50 - You should watch the DF interview… it is not 4K 60FPS with Full RT, Full RT is only available on the 30 FPS mode.

[@ZuneGuy1118]

Why do you want Gran Turismo 7 on PC since it's basically the same crap as this game. There are better choices than both console games on the PC already.

[@markuschief4472]

FM is more simulator than GT7. Not by a large margin but still more realistic. And FM has 2 performance modes with RT on Gameplay vs ZERO on GT7 😆😆😆

[@Mark-mu4pj]

GT7 although it's a good game it's old now basically PS4 game lol

[@byron1607]

​@@markuschief4472😂😂😂 der war gut , FM war seit FM3 / XB360 mehr Arcade als Sim . Ich zocke FM seit dem ersten Teil . Turn10 sollte das anzeigen was auf ihrer Hauptseite für XB Gamer oder bei Reddit für Unruhe sorgt , das gefällt einigen Solo Gamern weniger , das wird totgeschwiegen . Man wird sehen wieviel Gamer das Spiel in diesen Zustand und mit den Zwangsoptionen kaufen . Die XB Welt besteht nicht nur aus UGP Abo Kunden , auch wenn der Dicke Phil davon schwärmt .

[@byron1607]

​@@Mark-mu4pjPS4 und PS5 Spiel . Turn10 bekommt es nicht mal hin eine abgespeckte Version FM8 für die XBO / S + X zu entwickeln . 😂😂😂

[@Gouki4130]

Forza 4 was peak

[@LastRazerEater]

Really ? 😮 I thought 6 was peak.

[@Pharoahogc]

Haha I thought 5 was.

[@jdm538]

nostalgia blind

[@Iam123-i5j]

Is still play Forza 4 from time to time. Love the soundtrack

[@rainey06au]

@@LastRazerEater yep, 6 was definitely peak Forza.

[@SteddiFLo]

Ray tracing in dynamic 4k so 1440p 30fps and 1080p 60fps while no ray tracing in GT7 but it has 4k 60fps even 4k 120fps with VRR

[@markuschief4472]

That's wrong. FM modes: 4k/60fps no RT 4k/30fps with RT Dynamic 4k/60fps with RT. GT7 has a 120fps mode at 1080p and almost never maintains 120fps (it swings between 70-90)

[@SteddiFLo]

@markuschief4472 @markuschief4472 forward the Digital Foundry video to 1:40 performance mode and 2:27 resolution mode said he got a lock 120fps most of the time 😎💪🏾 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXTVk2CjYsaXjMksi=KJib3yVNBNkrcXnm

[@HatsuneM1ku01]

It’s a shame that Fujimi never came back

[@bignobit905]

i hope they will add fujimi kaido back,

[@oliyb]

Yeah me too, guess it's hard for them cos they say it's not real and they can't make it realistic. I say to do the best u can, it was the best track for me.

[@mr.2cents.846]

We all do.

[@Darius_Dawkins]

ok i thoguht this was a port to next gen, glad its an actually reboot they should have said that

[@irrefutable_mrT]

Porsche isn't a performance vehicle?...

[@caseyjones4011]

All those beautiful graphics on Series X, at 30 fps, or half rez... Disgusting.

[@christopherbassit2757]

No GR corolla? What a joke. I own that car in real life and it’s sucks not to have it

[@AthenaAutocross]

They removed the Fiesta ST, which has been in 7 titles over the last 10 years.

[@christopherbassit2757]

@@AthenaAutocross wow man. This game is such ass.

[@BrassStacks]

Porsche has two syllables.

[@Hi11Zones]

It's soooo dumb we can't have car crashes get over urself it's the car companies fault

[@S3RAVA3LM]

Make video: digital only has to die

[@pixeljauntvr7774]

Well play it while you can before MS remove or from the storefront in a few years time like all the other Forza games.

[@LastRazerEater]

MS just announced, will support for many years to come. 😮 wow

[@pixeljauntvr7774]

​@@LastRazerEaterMany years? Then what? Right car licenses expire and they remove the game from the digital Storefront like every other Forza. 😢

[@MrAyybee2cold]

@@pixeljauntvr7774as long as you digitally own it on your account you can always go and redownload it. I can always redownload Project Cars 2 even tho it’s delisted.

[@frantz4g63]

​@pixeljauntvr7774 why does it matter if they remove it from the store? If you own it, it won't matter one single bit. And if you have it on game pass, they'll probably sell the game with a massive discount for $10, so resist the McDonalds double cheese burger and fries for once at that point in time and buy FM on discount. Besides, the next game will be released by then, so again, it won't matter. A game being removed from the store really is a negligible thing to mention unless new comers want to jump on board after it's removed. At that point, buy a hard copy online.

[@KavanettOwO]

ah yes my rx 480 can run at 4k 60 c:

[@devondavis5119]

I never played it but ill try for the first time

[@doubletee4391]

That behind the car view isn't great. Makes everything look off to me

[@SteddiFLo]

Dam Forza is locking cars behind a car pass while GT7 updates the game with free cars. Dam

[@JJACK2024]

Nobody cares about grand turismo 😂

[@SteddiFLo]

@johnjackson-ke3ys so why GT7 was in the top 20 best selling game all last year and this year

[@daireedavemolato9378]

GT7 should do that given how awful their monetization during its launch lol

[@JJACK2024]

@@SteddiFLo I guess they have nothing to play ?

[@JJACK2024]

@SteddiFLo I remember grand turismo got delayed years ago because of forza motor sport .

[@rainey06au]

Gotta say it looks like its got a fair share of downgrades and/or sidesteps from Forza 7. I hope the new stuff is REALLY REALLY good.

[@Andybarney555]

Like??

[@Brad_-mc2yp]

@@Andybarney555 hes blind asf

[@rainey06au]

@@Andybarney555 less cars and tracks. Graphics look similar to FM7. Car handling looks like it always has in the Forza games, not bad but not amazing either - a bit floaty and disconnected.

[@ZuneGuy1118]

Forza and GT ARE more sim-ish than sim. Microsoft is trying to pass this off as a racing sim to PC Gamers, sorry guys we are just waiting on the eminent release of Assetto Corsa 2, and the wait is HARD. I noticed that they conveniently forgot to mention the required persistent internet connection that must be had to play the game. That is also a new feature. Gamingbolt, such integrity - sheese...

[@markuschief4472]

Both GT7 and FM are gamer-friendly Racing sims as opposed to hardcore sims like ACC and iRacing. GT7 and FM are more into having lots of cars and exciting career mode, while ACC focuses on full GT3 real-world simulation and iRacing on eSports.

[@JROC734]

I've got to be honest, I'm not really waiting on AC2. I seriously could give a chit about it.

[@Adam-M-]

They're sim-cade games. Which is a subgenre all its own.

[@ZuneGuy1118]

@@markuschief4472 That is correct, which is why I also refer to them as car collecting games.

[@ZuneGuy1118]

@@JROC734 Every PC sim racer is waiting for Asseto Corsa 2, and Le Mans Ultimate, and, Rennsport, and GTR Revival, but mostly Asseto Corsa 2 because we know what to expect from it.

[@reggiefurlow1]

It's another racing

[@akoskolok]

I hope it’ll be as great as Gt7!

[@Iam123-i5j]

Was GT7 great? Im not so sure

[@markuschief4472]

No, it won't be as GT7. FM will be far better

[@JJACK2024]

Your delusional gt7 😂

[@RennsportRacer]

@@JJACK2024Proper grammar is the difference between knowing your shit and knowing you’re shit.

[@akoskolok]

@@JJACK2024 Excuse me?

[@skyeait5939]

What about triple monitor support? no? pass.

[@LastRazerEater]

MS just announced triple monitor Support !!!! 😮

[@skyeait5939]

@@LastRazerEater 🤣

[@Killerboyh]

Online only = no buy

[@LastRazerEater]

They just announced offline Support !!!!

[@andreasmoller9798]

@@LastRazerEater not in career mode its only playable online

[@LastRazerEater]

@@andreasmoller9798 You don't like online ? 😥

[@puffy3146]

@@LastRazerEaternot everyone has wifi at home bro, it might seem likes its a norm, but its a luxury bro 🙏.

[@wout123100]

many games require always online, shrugs.

[@sj460162]

The tracks wirh a bit of luck....same ole same ole

[@andreasmoller9798]

To early to say i am yet not impressed through so not worth a day one buy

[@LastRazerEater]

I just got early access and I'm very impressed. Definitely a day one buy !!!!

[@andreasmoller9798]

@@LastRazerEater good for you but not for me not impressed at all, to many flaws

[@shittysingingaccount]

@@andreasmoller9798what are the flaws?

[@andreasmoller9798]

@@shittysingingaccount to much grinding with car levels to upgrade your cars, outdated car models, no drag mode, low amount of Tracks at launch

[@skyeait5939]

i don't like the buzz words. What was is 360hz tyre deformation accuracy refresh bouncy bouncy rubber grip turning? F%cking wheres my wallet!

[@mp9228]

Really disappointed. The last good Motorsport was 3. Tired of the same old vintage cars for a decade, tired of career mode being nothing but doing random stuff just for money. I’m sure this tire performance overhaul will be as much of a joke as their “smoke dynamics” for horizon 5. At least I can make my avatar a disembodied head.

[@gonzo3915]

Unless they provide proper wheel support and proper physics it will be just as bad as all the other Forza games, these games are such a long way from being a Sim.

[@LastRazerEater]

They just announced wheel support and better physics upgrade !!! 😮 🤗

[@andreasmoller9798]

Physics Will be better but nowhere near iracing or acc

[@shittysingingaccount]

@@andreasmoller9798it’s not trying to be

[@rodman0088]

Thanks for saying that, the gear-head just can't seem to see passed his helmet he wears indoors while racing.@@shittysingingaccount

[@skyeait5939]

oh and don't you dare run triple monitors 🤣

[@Vinny-zc7js]

lost my interest.after forza 6

[@Wajang1]

No Northschleiffe no buy for me. Shame, i wil wait till the game is complete.

[@jesseespinosa9739]

Porsch-uh. The founders name was Ferdinand Porsch-uh. Say it right. Have some respect.

[@albertogonzalez1746]

Graphics look last gen

[@malicioussoftware8242]

Nope gt7 is way better. How do I know I've played both

[@LastRazerEater]

Really ? I have both games and FM is way better than gt7 by a long shot.

[@malicioussoftware8242]

@lowcut6266 forza handles to arcadie compared to gt7. Forza does have a better car selection, but I never truly enjoyed driving.

[@rabbidcrazy787]

Nah. Both suck.

[@garylee8171]

Forza 7 sucked ass, hope this is better. Still waiting for details on the most important thing: Free Play

[@LastRazerEater]

MS just announced and confirmed Free Play !!!😮

[@AHLDN]

@@LastRazerEaterno forza career mode is online only google it

[@RivalGrimReaper]

already went wrong in the first 15 seconds, Forza is not and never has been a racing sim, its an arcade racer, with some simulation like tyre wear.

[@TheLeftovers212]

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[@spidersilva147]

GT7 + PSVR 2 = Game Over for Forza

[@deniso1489]

Average console war enthusiast

[@noahw5887]

GT has always been second to Forza. Not an issue.

[@shittysingingaccount]

I wouldn’t say so. GT7 is a good game and PSVR2 is good quality but… 1. GT7’s hype has long passed. 2. PSVR2 didn’t sell well. 3. GT7 is only available on PlayStation, most sim racers are on PC. 4. GT7’s multiplayer is very basic and poorly designed compared to Forza’s 5. Forza is a next gen title GT7 isn’t 6. Forza is a more approachable game than GT7 7. Forza is on PC Xbox and cloud

[@Mcfigg]

GT 7 is old PS4 game..🤣😆

[@ElephantTrap]

​@shittysingingaccount there has only been 1 selling number given back in April or may. And if that number continues to grow like that, it is lining up to be the fastest selling headset for the first year. So it is selling. VR in general just isn't a huge platform.

[@kennyyarmolchuk5560]

Another garbage game its time forza make something new