LED Grow Lights 101 (Intermediate Level) (Garden Talk #33)

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

Thanks to Shane from MIGRO LED for coming onto the podcast today! Shane’s KZbin channel- bit.ly/2WdrcTd MIGRO LED website- bit.ly/3o7sgDJ

[@f4tbukg5]

Some video say that far red helps with resin production

[@timpage5021]

Best podcast session to date.

[@MrPablo1uk]

Hey man, I love this garden talk show, I found it about 3 weeks ago and I'm now completely up to date, it's taken over from the Joe rogan show as my favourite. Thanks for having this guy on, I already follow him and planned to use his shop next light I needed, thanks a lot for having him on.

[@greengold6705]

@@f4tbukg5 Not really just speed's up flowering time a little if you use it right

[@roberttomsiii3728]

Love his channel and all the depth and breadth of information he provides. I recently saw something about freeze-curing elsewhere on KZbin. Having trouble finding good/reliabe info on it. Maybe something to cover in a talk if you can find a good source?

[@WatchCLtv]

So awesome this episode came together so quickly! Grab something to take notes with and something to toke with, this one's gonna be a banger

[@shriverfam230]

I’m here for it

[@timturk1899]

I just realized this is 2yrs old, as I'm reading the comments, lol. Noticed I'd seen it, but figured it was recently. I've been subscribed to both channels for as long as I can remember (almost 8-10 years..?!🤔). Not much has changed since this episode, really. Now, you can always tweek around with little things (knobs to dim/raise however many different colors. Individually set by you). Oh, and a hundred pre set spectrums. Even HPS, MH, CMH and more! With lots of Samsung 2390b+Diodes. Several per Watt, which run much cooler and cover more area than 2-3 Samsung LM301H Diodes. Thanks again for the great interview Chris. It really stands the test of time, and what I've experienced in real life lately!👍💯✌️

[@dalelane1948]

Good job Chris, this whole community owes Shane a massive debt, thanks for starting to repay him for us.

[@budstermcgreen6360]

Great episode! Shane seems a good guy...the fact he's sold many lights for other manufacture's by way of his reviews. Instead of saying his brand is the only way..seems he just wants people to get a light..any quality light and get growing for themselves. Hope you got him to hook you up with one of his lights and put it through a grow for us! ✌️

[@AcesH1gh]

I purchased 1 of his lights because of his honest reviews. In fact the other leds i purchased was due to his reviews.

[@jakebrake7054]

What I see and hear from Shane, on MIGROW-KZbin channel is somebody who has an understanding of the technicalities of providing adequate lighting for the plants. This is how we are able to then grow as a community, into the next level of discovery.

[@Dab_Marino]

Nothing better than being in the garden, while watching/listening to Garden Talk 🙌🔥👌

[@mrallraw3305]

I was just thinking that. Makes chores go by faster than usual lol

[@budstermcgreen6360]

Doing some transplanting of clones and thinking the same thing! ✌️

[@hippiehillape]

Have been working in the room when they basically real time told me.. no no, not like that. Lots to learn from this channel, intelligently delivered.

[@timpage5021]

Lol same same.

[@verbalkint1770]

Funny, my grandma said the exact same thing the other day.

[@Prometheus4096]

Shane's integrity is way too high. He makes very good lights, then tells his viewers to buy other ones that are cheaper or almost or equally good. It's insane.

[@duncanskippers3130]

Shane is a legend. Learned allot from his videos in a quest to bust the myth of needing expensive lights

[@trevorstrutt1]

Well u do need to spend decent money on qaulity and a gd warranty lol..a whole Lotta cheap garbage that under produces and never gets grade aaaa qaulity out there too

[@curtismajeskie3419]

I completely agree, I stumbled across migro by looking up grow light reviews and par mapping and now Ive watched every video he has put out more than once. Reviews and instructional videos have become my new tv. I spend more time on youtube looking up new methods, reviews, problem-solving vids etc. Indoor growing has really taken leaps and bounds over the last 15 years. When I first got into it, everything was ungodly expensive. Knowledge about photosynthetic active radiation was limited at best, and it was trial and error until you found something that worked for you. People like shane have really made indoor gardening so much more accessible and while its not black and white yet, understanding what you need out of your components is so much easier to understand now than ever before and this info is freaking free!

[@dertythegrower]

Easily the top guy to hear out... for sure

[@julienboudreau6847]

Not enough content of this high quality on youtube. Shane and Chris have be tremendously helpful in setting up an indoor grow. We need more of this.

[@chrisbryant960]

This is a damn good Informative Talk show today Chris...super impressed to say the least...Thank you very much Brother...I watch all of Shane's Videos for best lights and new tech on the market...this Video nailed my questions on the head....excellent.

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

That's so cool to hear! Thanks for your positive words

[@stormboy1517]

i love how he didn't just plug his own light first when asked which light was the best he'd reviewed. Shane's a jem in the rough.

[@VinceAndWeed]

Knowledge, knowledge and knowledge! Thanks for the highly educative content 🙏🏼.

[@chrisbethmann3955]

I run small fans over all my drivers, like to believe it’s adding longevity and efficiency

[@KevinSmith-dq9tz]

👍. Heat is your enemy. More people should pay attention to that.

[@jasonpavlak2055]

Nl so do I

[@dmo848]

Only thing it adds is sound. I can care less. Rather it cool then hot n dead

[@jw801]

Awesome to have Shane on here. This channel has been a saviour for my coco grow, I watch each of your videos about 3 times 😅

[@colt8358]

Hi could you post a how to clean LED grow lights safely.

[@heyheynowinga9972]

the god of led is here everyone shut the fuck up class has begun the master speaks you listen say nothing , sorry sir go ahead i needed to warn the sproutlings

[@theresabredican9802]

Absolutely love the 'can do' attitude and the down to earth way Shane imparts his knowledge. Epic episode

[@whiitepee]

Brilliant episode!! just in awe of the knowledge being shared... probably the most quiet i've seen Chris hahaha young padwan

[@GardenTalkwithMrGrowIt]

Lol pretty much. As we were filming it, he said everything I would have said - plus a whole lot more! He clearly has a ton of knowledge about lighting. I'm so glad he sat down with me and dropped his knowledge for us 🙌🌱

[@its_b_ya_digg]

Right on bro!! this was an awesome episode!! im currently making my own grow light for my grow box. had good results with the last light i made. i wouldnt be able to make my own light without shane. the info that he provides the community is amazing. thank you for doing this interview and having him on the show!!

[@henricusinstitoris2325]

This was the garden talk I’ve been waiting for

[@CornPop309]

I love this guy for some reason been subbed to him for awhile.

[@WATCHMEGOBROKE]

Chris And MIGRO!! Im in trim jail,got my joint Lit...lets Go‼️🤓🚀🚀

[@robertreif5992]

I wish I could like this video more than once. It answers more questions than I knew I needed. This is the perfect information for people like me who just want to get started, but have a working man's budget. I can't thank you guys enough.

[@curtismajeskie3419]

Its easier than you think. I thought Id never get into indoor horticultural because of how expensive it is, but its actually cheaper now than ever and no matter what you plan on cultivating its worth it. If you're working on a budget just buy each component separately. You can get an itemized list of what comes in a complete kit and plan out what you want to do from there. Thats exactly what I did and it allows you to plan for expansion. While I spent more than just buying say a 2x2 kit or a 3x3 kit. I bought an oversized exhaust and overpowered light for my 3x3 tent, so I can run everything at a lower power, and when I expand I just get a bigger tent and the reccomended components for the tent I have now which makes the overall expansion cheaper.

[@mauricecalliss1303]

I think of red photons as normal bullets. And blue photons as hollowpoints and uv spectrum as explosive bullets.

[@mauricecalliss1303]

He'll man. Bathroom 38 watt led with 3 adjustments and it's fkun ace for rootin and baby vegging before transfer to real veg.

[@UncleDickeysRandomLife]

I use spiderfarmer leds kind of pricey but they work well just dont put too close or youll see the tip burn. You can run em way off the canopy.

[@tightlines106]

The New hi-par 660w spectro led are on point I'M also am interested in the spectro 240w

[@suki4410]

People with a small tent (60x60cm) only need about 100 to 200 watts of LED light.

[@mauricecalliss1303]

Evolutionary speaking out eyes are similar to photosynthetic cells or cloraplasts etc . (Make a you look at plants diferently)

[@stangmann1521]

I like my HLG 650-R / Did not even here HLG named in this LED Review of lights / HLG are just Great lights & Customer Service Is tops too !

[@asyouwish1143]

Love my 600 rpsec and 650 scorpion Diablo in my 10x5. They kick out massive weight 😊

[@runnersluck4390]

I've watched a lot of Shane's videos, this Q&A was very valuable. So much so I had to watch it twice. This put a LOT of myths to rest for me

[@shanh9961]

Really great video, a lot of useful information. It's great that Shane wasn't pushing his product, just trying to educate and share knowledge. His Migro lights are pretty sweet though!

[@lansingsfinest4475]

Please teach me what you are talking about 21min in I have a ion 720

[@kr38tve]

Great podcast. 👍 Learned some stuff today. Thanks for the help.

[@headsandtailsheadsandtails4313]

Dr Bruce Bugbee is a good one for beginners of cocoir/peat/etc and how easy it is to grow ..he and his team at the university have 30yrs of experience growing hemp/cannabis..

[@maxirodolfo7600]

Great video so much info if u grow with leds ..Mr. Grow it. Killi g it again

[@tgitsmydad2156]

Wow so glad to finally see this episode come to light on the channel. Great job. Can't wait to see what's next.

[@mogreenstinson2932]

Nice bro let's get it Michigan here

[@tatertot7105]

Awesome video thanks Mr. Grow It. I’ve been low key following and watching all your videos I love how clean and sterile your grow area looks. I’m very picky myself I like diamond mylar and fresh white paint

[@quinshawnsolodaboi8768]

All u need is a 8$ 3 way meter pH light moisture meter if u really want to learn how to read light intensity easier hold all meter

[@dmo848]

Totally agree, those things work great to get an idea of what's going on.

[@walterward3811]

I use Shane's migro array 4. I have 3 off them and can't say enough how much I love these lights. He did an amazing job designing them. Booming yields when used right

[@bluethird]

Just started using migro array 4 myself, can’t praise it enough! The detail in the design (everything has been thought through to the nth degree to make it as practical and efficient as possible) and the results are 1st class… unbelievable value for money! Hats off to you Shane 👏

[@Marvscharf]

Migro is the sun god of all growers thx for ur passion 💪🥹🔥

[@camz1039]

Two of my favorite KZbinrs! Couldn't click like fast enough.

[@graemedevine9651]

Thanks Mr Grow it, I'm in Ireland and have been watching Shane's channel for a while now, I've recently found you, it's great to see the good growers getting together and sharing their professional knowledge, there's so much garbage out there, De Bacca University is very good on KZbin

[@littlenugs9942]

Thanks. Shane for coming on Mr. Grow it's channel and talking with us about light and usable par. And Chris I guess I can stop pushing you towards the spot on par sensor and his video on it. Lol! I Did not know that you were bringing Shane on to talk. I see the method to your madness now! Great stuff guys thanks for all your service

[@NamNguyen-xr3ho]

Very useful information for our growers. Thanks alot.

[@NedDenver]

I love that you have chapters. It makes such a huge difference.

[@deanbunn753]

is a braun 5000 lumens 4' hanging shop light good for a canabis grow?

[@dmo848]

No

[@energetically1]

Shane is the Man. I own last gen Migro lights. Been following his content for years.

[@sirvonesmith]

WHAT WAS THE CHEAPER END PAR METER

[@captainchrisfishing]

my question is most any good grow light has about 600 watts or more of light energy , but when u turn the light up you have to raise the light so why raise the light to turn it up when u could lower it and lower the light height ??? soo confusing

[@douglas9607]

I love Shane from MiGro. Thanks for the video

[@rickhoffman9023]

Great episode as always. Been a sub of migro for a while now. Always a ton of information when both of you speak. Hope everyone has a blessed day today!

[@joshua1977ize]

Migrow lights rock!

[@jerryguizar7073]

Always like listening to conversations with Shane.

[@darcypotterpotter6214]

OFF TOPIC QUESTION ,WOULD IT HURT MY SOIL IN MY OUTDOOR GARDEN IF I DUMP THE CARBON FILTER into my compost piles ????? I'm asking because i recycle anything i can and the metal body can go to clean scrap if it is empty and i would rather not throw the filter medium out in trash if it can be compost

[@malekhaiterron2453]

Speaking of LEDs, how about optic led? I've heard some great things, their lights seem very efficient, and prices are in the middle..any thoughts?

[@guyfawkes8790]

Algorithm bump

[@petergill4744]

Shane is the LED Guru. Respected by yourself and Jorge (Indoor Bible) for his impartial advise. Despite having his own growlight company he doesn't plug his excellent lights every time he posts. Shane just tells you the way it is. No B.S Respect 👊

[@mauricecalliss1303]

Enteterage effect baby

[@UncleDickeysRandomLife]

This is gold

[@richnault2866]

This was fantastic. I watch Shane's show and reviews all the time as well as yours Chris. Felt like i was watching the all star game.

[@guido-tx1el]

never a disappointment when i tune into this podcast. highlight of my weekend as far as educational videos go .cant wait to see whats coming up next weekend

[@apeacefulgrower]

Sweet 👍 Shane 👊

[@420somewhereG]

Gromie lol ✌🏼

[@lyndahenry5469]

As a former hps user,l spent around 2yr sussing out LEDs,but Shane's clear insight and passion shone thru all the bullshit....so l took the plunge and the aray series is phuckin amazing....l have no skin in the game and l could bullshit all l want but the proof of the pudding,is in the eating..... etc.... ..bottom line is,l feel it is not a fluke that these Migro and other higher end LEDs,piss all over the equivalent hps

[@hiddencreekgardens48]

2 if the best knowledgeable guys just shooting the shit!!! THANKS TO BOTH YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER!! Mr grow it, YOU MY FREIND ARE THE MAN !!! THANK YOU GUYS 🙏

[@sonoman00ify]

....edit... So funny. Right when I commented you started talking about Photone. I think it's real accurate

[@awesomeguyat7771]

we needed this episode years ago... very important knowledge in this one!

[@ironindica7342]

My light is made in Canada B.C but im sure some of the components are from China but it's fully designed and built here

[@mauricecalliss1303]

First experience I ever had with indoor growing was COMON SENSE 1 x 400w and 1 x 600w on 10 large plants in 12x12 area in 15 litre soil pots AND IITS 6YRS LATER NOW AND IT WAS THE BEST GROW I EVER DID. All acomplished with zero internet.Lol

[@jonsimas7972]

Dr.ShimLeaf4Flowers loves u and all you do for this community. The old timers are bending and the new Era is up and coming. Thanks for your science touch and your professional experience

[@anothercasualobserver8764]

Great conversation with Shane! Been watching his informative reviews for about 3 years now. Based my Mars Hydro SP250 purchase on his review and ended up with 3 of them before they came out with the SP3000. They are great little fixtures and double up real nice in a 2x4 tent!

[@fabiantimmins2224]

Yes, the accuracy of Android Lux meters is very much dependent on the quality of your device. I have an S22 Ultra which has an awesome light sensing chip, it is essential for auto setting screen brightness and achieving good quality photography so I use the highest rated, free PPFD meter and it works awsomely well. It's great because with seedlings I can keep temps low by reducing the height of my Marshydro FC-E1500 and dimming it while still mainting the optimum PPFD and avoiding the use of brutal fans and risking wind burn. If in doubt, follow the manufacturers instructions initially and then tweak as needed, don't become bogged down by the wealth of misinformation and bro science on social media.

[@Heidy1010]

Thank you AC Infinity for awesome products🎉

[@familytreesgrowcoast1087]

Hope one day I can show the craft as well growmie. Been watching you for a awhile in the garden doing my chores. Always listen and staying tuned in with all your content great education on growing always. Much love. ROMANGROWN. Still grey here

[@lopesrf]

what i was waiting 4

[@HgOH16]

How to not spend money on fake advertising! Great talk, tons of saving money information on materials and resources like electricity and lighting equipment! Thank you both, love the podcast!

[@serhino0412]

I appreciate the Micro content. He makes lights and will rank his products vs top competitors. He appears to be honest on his lights because he doesn't rank his the top light. I appreciate the integrity and the information to help people be successful growers.

[@MrMymorph]

I'm using one of Shane's Migrolight lights, decision was based on his knowledge & honesty in this space combined with a great light product. I am planning to extend my grow area soon & will be purchasing more from migro, probably the Pro version.

[@Oldmaninthestream]

thanks

[@LiteralHitter]

55:00 What!? Indica and sativa dominant tulips? How dare you!😂🌹

[@gregorysellers6137]

I'm was looking for leds came across v3 300 green sunshine what's u guys thoughts?

[@teresashitara444]

what about japanese cucumbers , what is the best led light for cucumbers? coverage area is 3ft by 3 ft?

[@mauricecalliss1303]

APARENTLY the specific spectrums work off eachother to cause a more fluxed/active state ie red and small amount of blue is more productive in terms of how much light is fluxed. Various other spectrums catalyst in relation to whatever and at what levels that interact at in plants

[@budbroz6412]

Can you please do a new version of this episode? Since now leds can deliver 1000-1500ppfd to the canopy

[@Deonmarx]

What's your opinion about using those regtangular cobs in around 3500k.? Worth it for a diy bar build?

[@greengold6705]

Great episode Mr grow it. I disagree with migro a little I don't think Samsung and bridgelux diodes are on the same level.

[@scottrouwhorst881]

Nice

[@Wes_Comeaux]

Gooing 100W, kept my Auto alive till spring, almost ready to harvest, 35 bucks

[@JustAdude93]

New to your channel and growing. Of the mass amount of videos I’ve been watching I can confidently say that you have by far some of the best content out there. Thank you 🙏

[@harrycatrell1471]

Thank you for sharing this episode! It has answered a lot of questions for me relative to my needs in my grow tent! Shane was very generous with his time, and his knowledge! It is truly appreciated!

[@bradhunt9518]

Watching Dr.Bruce Bugbee I have come to the conclution its about having 2000 par and deep red. As long as green is good.

[@ickeberlin6364]

Great show, great information. Thank you very much. 🥦💚🌍

[@sonoman00ify]

Wait...are you saying my free Photone light meter I downloaded off the play store for Android isn't good enough?

[@MrJasond7]

Haven't watched yet, but I'm considering building my own lights. This is great timing.

[@kellyhill4410]

This was an excellent interview. So much information.🤜💥🤛🌾🌾🌾

[@jimbothom1952]

Viparspectra led's xs and pro are great products and perform perfect. I use 3 1500s in my 3×3 dimmed as needed,

[@stangcobra592]

I run 3 P1000's in my 2x4 and 4 P2000's in the 4x4. Best bang for buck...

[@illmech]

I love this show. that is all

[@gnawbabygnaw]

You may can rent Light meters from your local camera rental place. The higher end place the better choices. Maybe $30 a day. Varies but not crazy. Can get all info in a one day rental.

[@hiroyopoetker]

Yaaaaaa my favorite LED dude! Awesome interview!

[@MrJasond7]

Re: the future. I'm researching how 2 make my own lights. I've always encountered frustration bc the lights sold don't really cover a 5x5 or 6x6 space well or evenly. Why? I think it's bc of the drivers - their capacity theesholds and cost. For example, Mean Well HLG series had 600w and then jumps to 1000w. It's difficult to construct 2 lights that will entirely and evenly cover a 5x5/6x6 space with thise options, unless you fork over money for the 1000w. Two 750w cc+cv (HLGs) would be great. But, they don't exist. So, the options are too little or too much (and too much = too much $). Some more affordable and quality drivers would open things up for manufacturers, so growers could get that power increase the two of you mentioned. Also, running two 750w fixtures at 85% would be easier on diodes than a 600w at 100%. Mr. G...have you looked into best options for landrace seeds? Any credible sources you could interview? As someone who once partook, doesn't , but may again, i feel i get a different vibe around the green these days. Idk. It's more like an outsider observation that I'm not sure of, but it seems like back in the day the whole scene was a bit more mellow. I don't really know. It's just something I've found myself wondering about. But - more varied wattage drivers would be a good development and help with thorough lighting. Thanks for the video.

[@AnnhilateTheNihilist]

I think you’ll find any scene is what you make it. Sure, grass is more popular these days and everyone is an expert (not) which means there’s more idiots and chanced to be scammed but also there’s more good people and quality information out there. You sound like you know what you’re talking about, if you found like minded people I’m sure everything would be as good as you remember (if not better)