How the Sith Killed the Republic from Within - Republic History #12

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[@hunterkiller1440]

"If you can't beat them, join them. Get to the top using their rules. Then change the rules to your liking."

[@oblivious3161]

Hey hunter wassup

[@EdaugEthanbYT]

Rudolf Hess much?

[@brianjohnson5272]

Ah the golden rule of politicians.

[@kirkbolas4985]

Hey, you just described the last 45 years of politics in California. As an example, the Governor is facing a recall election next month and he & his party are trying to change the recall process rules.

[@EdaugEthanbYT]

@@kirkbolas4985 I’m sorry but how is the ability to take back your recall vote changing the rules?

[@ruirent]

The republic should’ve never completely demilitarized. I understand downsizing after all the wars but at the very least a small galactic military force is needed for a government as big as the republic

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Another reason why unofficial covert ops military groups are a must have in peacetime.

[@weirdart1638]

The one thing I don't understand in the star wars universe is that almost all civilised worlds have no planetary defense like naboo for example they only have star fighters and nothing else

[@SpicyMediaReal]

What's the natural step after fighting a war that came close to wiping you out? Demilitarize, obviously.

[@weirdart1638]

@@SpicyMediaReal yeah but it's still a bad choice I mean take ww2 for example some major countries still retained a large portion of their military for defensive purposes many years after a the war

[@TheSuperRatt]

@@weirdart1638 That did prove to be quite the mistake though. Now the military industrial complex rules western foreign policy. We basically just handed the reigns over to the real world equivalent of the Separatist Council.

[@ANDREALEONE95]

Tarsus Valorum: give some of the Chancellor powers to the senate Palpatine: Revers UNO card.

[@Fleechin]

Don't mind me, just registering for Professor Geetsly's Galactic History 201 Course at the University of Coruscant

[@andrewsunny4151]

"today we finally reach the end", no mention of the sequel trilogy, he got my like

[@vitorkennedy1862]

I hope he start an imperial era series.

[@zero312]

@@vitorkennedy1862 I hope he talks about the New Republic Era during Legends. There is so much history afterwards as well as famous wars (Yuuzhan Vong, 2nd Galactic Civil Wars, Wars with the One Sith tribe) as well.

[@inquisitorgarza312]

It took a thousand years, numerous amounts of bribes, slowly covering the Galaxy with the Dark Side, creating the right amount of chaos needed to plunge the Galaxy into the Clone Wars, and making several political alliances and charges for the Sith to be literally elected as the highest office in the Galaxy. Truly the Sith Grand Plan was the closest thing to a masterpiece in the destruction of both the Jedi and the Republic, and had both Palpatine and his Master followed the Grand Plan gain more power in the next five hundred years, then there will be no chance the Jedi or the Republic could survive.

[@mrbyzantine0528]

Well, Plaugeuis' master, Tenebris was the first one we know of having a deviant streak away from this 'Grand Plan'.

[@miguelangelhernandezsolis7849]

Yeah a great plan for get the power not so good for maintaining the power 1000 years of planning for 20 of reign

[@lionheartt15]

wrong the sith helped by tipping at certain points but most of the damage done to the republic was by the republic itself. after darth bane there was only two actual sith for a whole galaxy. they can still do quite a bit of trouble by themselves but overall it can be contributed almost entirely to the republic's member planets themselves.

[@wildfire9280]

@@lionheartt15 Damask Holdings: *am I a joke to you?*

[@demi-femme4821]

And then Sheev blew it all up in 20 years.

[@Horneroid]

Does anyone else find it creepy that most of Siths strategies are kinda similar to the strategies being used today in politics?

[@Thiborfirenz]

Lucas always intended starwars to reflect our own times in his allegories.

[@sambob8019]

Yep one side is pretty much all the median corporations on its side and the other ones fighting against the tyranny I remember when it was flipped around too

[@paulwilliams2024]

YUP

[@vk6832]

Your antisemitism is showing...

[@Thiborfirenz]

@@vk6832 wins today's prize for dumbest comment

[@mrringneckbirb3556]

The amount of maps made throughout the history of the republic series would be enough for a territorial evolution video.

[@mrbyzantine0528]

It would be amazing to see such a thing, with detail during the wars. I noticed last episode only one map was shown of the Republic at it's weakest prior to Russan.

[@EdaugEthanbYT]

This was an amazing series and I’m really sad it’s over. Thank you for all the fun times and the interesting lore!

[@derrickstorm6976]

Nooooooooooo 😭😭

[@zexalbrony4799]

And thus, the Republic came to end. After 25000 years of trying to do good, it was destroyed not by an evil outside force, but from within by sinister manipulation turning most in it either into the very evil they fought against or just into people blindly following orders and thinking this was the right thing to do when clearly it wasn't. But as Rex said when Hunter told him The Republic was dead, "Not all of it." Bits and pieces survived and kept resisting until eventually, it was reborn.

[@jagnestormskull3178]

A phoenix from the flame; the sigil of the New Republic.

[@bruhicusmomentus3060]

@@jagnestormskull3178 Then that one died even quicker

[@MattsLEGOFilms]

May the Republic History series rest in peace

[@_thomas1031]

I haven't even heard about this series! I'm DEFINITELY going to have to go through it😅🙌

[@geetslys]

Yipee!

[@christianvincentcostanilla8428]

Try Star Wars legends : Luke's 12 Students

[@Ikcatcher]

Maybe the real Republic was the friends we made along the way

[@geetslys]

The Republic was inside of us all along!

[@mcthebbf1859]

I have an idea for a hypothetical situation which is what if a secret sith empire Emerged from the unknown regions and attacked the Galactic Empire shortly after clone wars

[@davidordaz5251]

Hmm interesting

[@teleportedbreadfor3days]

I just thought of Sidious feigning an alliance between them only to plot the takeover of both empires for himself and merging the two into one massive empire. Perhaps then he'd use this new power to conquer the rest of the Galaxy and Unknown Regions, before going for the satellite galaxies.

[@tsumigo]

Thousands years of preparation and Palpatine destroyed the sith grand plan in a lifetime.

[@mrbyzantine0528]

Well technically he succeeded, just not for very long...

[@jamiewalsh3349]

New Republic: The Old Republic was only 25,000 years old when the Empire took over. With the Republic reborn as the New Republic, it is time to begin another 25,000 years of- (Starkiller Base destroys Hosnian Prime (canon in 34 ABY)/Yuuzhan Vong invade Courscant (Legends in 27 ABY) NR: God damn it!

[@mrbyzantine0528]

They weren't outta the woods yet! It was too soon for the Sith to settle and the Skywalkers to shut up!

[@nathanpangilinan4397]

And the Galactic Empire retaking Coruscant in 130 ABY under the leadership of Roan Fel. Who was a descendant of Leia Organa herself.

[@jacobstine1221]

Mandalore had a few green places left after the bombing due to clans protecting those sights from the the warships, which were mostly around the poles of the planet.

[@grandadmiralzaarin4962]

Can't wait for the post Endor era. I love the Warlord Era

[@darthcheesecake3392]

Oooh Now that you've done this you should do a series on the Empire, then the New Republic and Galactic Alliance. Probably enough material for a few videos for each history wise.

[@bonno55]

This series was so amazing and so well-made! Please do a series on Imperial and new Republic history it would be so good

[@loganmartin5210]

You should also continue telling about what happened after the fall of the Empire and rise of the New Republic. The stories of Thrown, the Vong and of the sith that were around during that time period. I think it would be cool and would like to see it.

[@acrazysheepdog1555]

Damn, perfection is impossible, but it’s also right in front of us all the time.

[@Lonewolf-dy5yb]

You should continue this series, sure, the Republic is gone, but another Republic will rise. . .and fall, but the New Republic Era is easily one of the most interesting eras in Galactic History.

[@DanTheYoutubeAddict]

Can you do a history of the Uzan Vong war please? I have heard bits and pieces about it but only the first few battle of it and would like to learn more since it was such an important event in Legends.

[@williammagoffin9324]

This is the best Star Wars KZbin series I've seen. I love the idea of a Star Wars history mini-series, I hope it keeps going with the Empire and New Republic eras.

[@Ganonsmork]

Another episode of a cool series, and last.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

It's over, isn't it? Isn't it? Isn't it over?

[@SubManic]

I’m going to miss these. The history of the republic videos have been so good.

[@forcierlogan]

It’s really sad that this is the end of the Star Wars history series, it feels like I have a nostalgic void in my heart now, it feels lonely. But thank you for the absolutely amazing videos. Geetsly’s and The Lore Master are my favorite Star Wars channels.

[@slicerneons3300]

Geetsly's: "High Republic Is Good Star Wars." Fans who grew up reading the EU: "It's Treason Then."

[@marshalllatta2073]

Ones more The sith will rule the galaxy and we shall bring peace

[@geetslys]

"Peace"

[@Followerofchrist221]

@@geetslys ironic

[@Followerofchrist221]

@@geetslys the Jedi that we’re misguided and well let’s be honest they would have gotten them all killed because vong and they wouldn’t have any of the empire military structures ships weapons and or the Death Star so how’d that work out? Also palpatine became the embodiment of Darth plagus the wise

[@41st_CPL_Roman]

Bane's story is hands down mu favorite part of legends.

[@erikkallstrom1764]

This series has been awesome and the best I’ve seen on KZbin this year

[@wenos0228]

Now entire clone wars ?

[@nuggetdoozy7831]

Thank you for the hard work day In and day out. I haven’t turned on my tv/cable in months ❤

[@kiddtaak]

I absolutely loved this series!!! Episodes 1 through 12 were extremely entertaining and informative

[@insaneredneck3917]

Really enjoyed this series. Legends stuff is awesome

[@lerneanlion]

One thing that George Lucas unknowingly taught us is that civilizations risen and fallen all the times when the cohesion of that civilization is getting weaker and weaker. While it is impressive that the Republic lasted for so long, they barely did anything to strengthen the cohesion of their government. The people who responsible for strengthening them for most of the times are Sith because without them, there will be no wars that force the Republic and the Jedi to militarize themselves. This is what Ibn Khaldun said about asabiyyah in his book called al-Muqaddimah.

[@michael198427]

Damn this story has so many pieces keep em coming

[@CT5555_]

0:50 I want more context on this picture. Two blades? A dark saber with a different hilt? Where did this come from?

[@birch8109]

I think it’s from the high republic

[@Casey-jn3ib]

This was a great series.

[@BryanEshbaugh]

This series was wonderful

[@kiennguyentrong1897]

Valorum got it becoming when he signed the Russan Reformations.

[@jameskosusnik1102]

Hmm so the ruusan reformation wasn't really a Geneva convention type treaty, geetsly's would you do a video covering this topic in detail?

[@mcthebbf1859]

I would like to hear what you would think of a scenario like that

[@goodmind4940]

Is this the end? Or would this cover Clone Wars and 10-year gap between TPM and AOTC?

[@KirbyBWebb]

Fantastic !

[@forthencholordofadmirals2763]

Since it's legends why not continue into the legacy era ?

[@scottfuller7059]

need to make some movies about all that

[@jamesleduke873]

Are you planning to do an Imperial/New Republic/Galactic Alliance history mini-series?

[@teleportedbreadfor3days]

Next you should go over the entire history of the Rebel Alliance, then the New Republic afterwards.

[@mansuurabdulaziz2034]

YOU GUYS DID WELL

[@wafalme851]

Can you make a similar series about the Sith

[@robbielongpre4801]

yes, PLEASE keep doing content from 'Legends'. Episodes 7-9 should have been the Grand Admiral Thrawn saga. Why Disney re-rolled the die after they had already acquired the equivalent of rolling a "20 critical' is just assanine ...

[@ZoeMalDoran]

The main problem with trying to do the Thrawn Trilogy in live action after the Disney takeover was the age of the actors (and later the sad death of Carrie Fisher). If they'd been smart, they could have done an animated adaptation, with the original actors providing the voices. I think that would have worked pretty well.

[@christianvincentcostanilla8428]

Star wars legends : Luke's 12 Students

[@shanenolan8252]

Cheers

[@johnpine5171]

Can you make a video about Jedi master Fay?

[@TraciPeteyforlife]

The Republic was doomed to die, unless they reorganized as something. That was more streamlined, the Jedi were unwise in many ways. The Jedi have as much blood on there hands as the Sith

[@brianrunyon266]

Do High Republic videos when you can, love the novels.

[@mixmaster3028]

Watching a preemptive strike when they weren’t planning to do anything that’s low

[@masterhypnos6783]

It’s been a long road Getting from there to here. It’s been a long time But my time is finally near. ‘Cause I’ve got faith Of the heart!

[@derrickstorm6976]

Rest in peace, history of the Republic 😭😥

[@bipolarbear8890]

The Sith are the most handicapped antagonists in all fiction.

[@ontasbulent5709]

Hello there

[@geetslys]

General Kenobi!

[@DarthKal]

You are a bold one.

[@spartan5800]

I made someone mad in the discord’s general chat

[@geetslys]

"Some men just want to watch the world burn."

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Why, what happened?

[@spartan5800]

I said halo was better and they got mad

[@michaelandreipalon359]

@@spartan5800 I see. The argument has points, though, although that depends if you were talking about Bungie, 343, or a bit of both compared to Legends, Alt-universe/Disney, or, again, a bit of both.

[@christianvincentcostanilla8428]

Try galactic civil war legends

[@aburks76]

That opinion of the "High Republic" is questionable...

[@winglessmecha]

It was all part of Darth Bane's grand plan

[@bobname7131]

I got a 15min ad wth

[@annavg.9976]

But, how did the Sith manipulate the Jedi bureaucracy and help create Jedi reactionary, almost knee jerk fear inspired beliefs and responses to problems? When did they diverge from the Tython jedi? Was it gradual or was there a main catalyst? Think we'll see this in Acolyte or do you think 5he seeds can be traced to the beginning of the Gran Plan?

[@jonathandiaz4997]

17 months ago

[@snow-in4zp]

Ok so question how does Yoda in legends anyway know "Always two there are" if the rule of two was started 120ish years before he was born and no sith was seen after it was started? I mean yes there were always masters and apprentices before the rule of two but there were hundreds of them not just two I always assumed that the sith were found or the rule of two was started 2 or 3 thousand years before the battle of yavin and he knew about it because only two ruled some of these empires but no there were hundreds of them right up to the thought bomb and it was assumed that all of them died like maybe he could sense it but that's just a afterthought cop out. He should have been like "holy crap! Bad this is! Hundreds of sith there could be!? This happen how could it?" Like honestly he and mace should be sitting in that meditation chamber hyperventilating.

[@derrickstorm6976]

Yes indeed

[@goodmind4940]

He skipped Almas Dark Jedi uprising where Jedi learn about Rule of Two

[@MACE_HINDU]

Republic never seems to have a strong enough army and navy wich leads to this shit.......... hey let's get rid of it completely leaving us completely helpless

[@prophet_of_pain3335]

If it's creates by Disney's it's basically legends too

[@GG_1318]

Tarsus Valorum helped destroy the republic

[@akumaking1]

Legends>Disney

[@jmwilliamsart]

Why didn’t the Jedi ever sense the Sith through the force in the last 1,000 years? Also why didn’t the Jedi and the Republic wage an all out war against the Hutts in order to destroy Hutt controlled space and end slavery?

[@fede98k54]

The Sith were very good at masquerading their presence, and of course, for the first centuries, the Sith were very weak, while the Jedi were very strong and competent. However, as the Jedi grew complacent, and the Sith stronger, the Jedi did begin to sense the dark side. Around 200 years before the battle of Yavin, the Jedi sensed the dark side for the first time in 800 years after a sith lord started messing with the force too much. A bit later, a Jedi padawan fell to the dark side after finding the Sith. The Jedis killed him, and from him learned about the rule of two, although at the time they didn't believe it. Slowly, over time, bits and pieces of clues were gathered, but the Jedi were too concerned with the Republic to start piecing together the clues, until the events of the TPM that is. We could blame the Jedi for this, and partly they are to blame, but the main reason they were so involved in politics in the first place is because the Republic was in decline, thanks in good part to the Sith themselves. So in truth this goes more to speak to the effectiveness of the Sith Grand Plan: for 6000 years the Sith attempted to destroy the Jedi in a conventional war, by creating their own nation to mobilize and lead, and each time they were eventually defeated by the more cohesive, better organized and more motivated Republic. Darth Bane understood this, that defeating the Republic in a direct war was impossible, and he instead took a path that would distract the Jedi, make them confident and complacent, and then Plagueis and Sidious added to this plan by creating the CIS and the Clone Wars, the perfect bait, the war against the Sith the Jedi had been preparing to fight for a thousand years. A conventional war, leading the Republic's forces against the puppet state of the Sith. All the while the Sith were subversing the democratic values of the Republic from within.

[@Followerofchrist221]

One the vong if we’re using legends is a massive reason not to demilitarize as you don’t know if other galaxy’s have hell bent genocidal people running it something like the flood etc

[@mc.yomyom8481]

MEDDEL

[@seangere9698]

If you're going to do something about Legends don't include Disney corruption ear stuff like the Clone Wars Animated stuff. The Clone Wars Mandalorian stuff was concocted by writers that were changing Star Wars history to be more in line with the DSWU as we know it. In the Legends " The Real Star Wars Univer" there was no New Mandalorian BS government. There was The Mandalorians or the Mandalorian Protectors or the Mandalorian Super Comandos and Death Watch. And Jango Fett was a Mandalorian by birth and Lineage not a bs Foundling "A Disney term".

[@ZoeMalDoran]

Jango was born on the Mandalorian colony of Concord Dawn, but whether he was a proper Mandalorian before his parents were killed and Jaster Mareel adopted him depends on one's point of view. Reconciling Jango's backstory from the original 2002-2005 Clone Wars multi-media project and the 2008-2014 depiction of the Mandalorians takes a bit of mental gymnastics, true, but there's still room for Mandalorian Protectors, True Mandalorians (the Supercommandos), both versions of Death Watch, and Satine's pacifists... in theory 🙂

[@seangere9698]

@@ZoeMalDoran In the original cannon Jango was Mandalorian, he was even Mandalore after Jaster died. That's why Spar pretended to be Jango and was therefore called Mandalore. Boba later took up the Mandalore title a few years after his escape from the Sarlac and getting his father's Beskar armor that he barred before going to Jaba and becoming a bounty hunter for Jaba. So there's not much room for, from a certain point of view. He grew up in an ancient Mandalorian clan, going all the way to the 3rd Mandalore. His father was a Journeyman Protector, a sort of Police force on Concord Dawn and their version of a Super Commando of sorts, there for making Jango a Mandalorian by birth, then he was adopted by Jaster when his mother and father were killed and raised in the way of the Super Commandos. In the real SWU there's no such thing as Foundlings in Mandalorian culture. You are either Mandalorian or your not, there is no difference between someone that was born into a clan or someone that joined later in their life, they are Mandalorian. As for the whole DSWU have to keep your helmet on for foundlings, comes from the rule of having to wear one pice of armor every day as it is stated in the Super Commando Codex. It was then perverted into "foundlings" never being able to take off their Helmets.

[@ZoeMalDoran]

@@seangere9698 Oh I agree Disney screwed up a lot with the Mandalorians. Din Jaren (sp?) is evidently in a clan that takes the "wear Mandalorian armour" part of the resol'nare up to 13. And you're right that all the traditional Mandalorian types (Crusaders, Neo-Crusaders, Supercommandos, Protectors et al) hold that "You're a Mandalorian as long as you and the community agree you are". I tend to reconcile it that Almac is a lying bigot who doesn't consider anyone from the colonies to be proper Mandalorians. Technically, "foundlings" did exist in proper canon, as Mandalorians adopted orphans into the clans for ages, not to mention the Neo-Crusaders, but what Disney gets wrong is apparently instituting different rules for the adopted and the idea that they're treated as somehow lesser than those born into the clans. After all, "family is more than bloodline" is a popular saying among the Mandalorians 🙂

[@seangere9698]

@@ZoeMalDoran Yes they Adopted them in but they were from that day on Mandalorian. Not second class citizens as Foundlings are treated in a way and are not considered real Mandalorians as Boba isn't a real Mandalorian even though he is literally the blood of the Last true Mandalore but that's getting real cannon and DSWU mixed together.

[@ZoeMalDoran]

@@seangere9698 Indeed. It's safest to just ignore the Disney stuff, and take only what we actually like from 2008-2014 Clone Wars.

[@bigusppus9219]

Dababy

[@sambob8019]

The Canon high Republic comics suck Legends did everything better for the most part

[@Fatherofheroesandheroines]

Valorum sounds like a Democrat. Disband the military destroy the old and bring in pacifism. Some of this COULD work. However a GALACTIC government needs to have an enforcement arm. So he was unrealistic in his expectations. And just helped the Sith in the long run.

[@wafalme851]

Long live the Sith

[@joshpeck9266]

No. It’s because of capitalism the sith just made it worse lol. Also imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism

[@thomaspurol9322]

Isn’t high republic instantly non canon due to its forced diversity ?

[@goodmind4940]

that's not how canon works lol