More alcove cupboards 6 - Finished

[@pierrecouronne3096]

Outstanding work

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks 👍

[@2255buck]

Another great job-enjoy the videos

[@Gidjoiner]

Good Thanks Joe 👍

[@michaelflynn6178]

A great series Gid Thanks

[@Gidjoiner]

😊Thanks 👍

[@michaelplays2449]

Lovely job ,being watching some of your old builds during the day videos are fantastic ☺👍

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks Michael, I sometimes add the time up for some of the series, 20min a vid adds up so I'm glad you like them 👍🙂

[@Reuben1024]

Cracking series, and real workmanship; really enjoy seeing the installs, as before your way of showing and explaining why is great and all with a humility sadly lacking by so many “experts”.

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks I'm glad you appreciate them, 👍👍 Yep the 'experts' don't share that much in their vids, That's what I'm trying to do better, I'm a 35yrs apprentice trained, time served joiner just sharing my work with no bullshit, filming comes second in priorities in my days work, I'm not self taught with my face stuck in front of the camera making videos for YT

[@Reuben1024]

@@Gidjoiner your training, apprenticeship and experience show! Thanks for taking the (extra) time to film your work and the editing on top. It's appreciated !

[@duncanb820]

A superb series Gid. It's been a masterclass in how to produce and fit alcove cupboards and overcome all the little problems that are always encountered doing this type of work. The best set of vids I've seen on youtube for alcove cupboards.

[@Gidjoiner]

Thankyou Duncan, that's good to hear, Yep nothing is as straight forward as it shows on paper so i try to share as much as poss, Glad you like them 👍

[@sweenep86]

nice work Gid, hope the customers finish on them matches the standard of the joinery.

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks 👍, experience says I doubt it, I have more faith in these customers but people blathering it in paint is why i offer to spray stuff 😂

[@sweenep86]

Doesn’t help that most DIY grade paints these days are shite. I’ve been testing water based acrylic and I found Johnstones Aqua rollered on with a mohair roller to be OK, rest of the available paints were shocking.

[@Gidjoiner]

Yeah, i don't do much hand painting, some are crap n very translucent, Leyland trade acrylic are what i use

[@welshmanwork]

Learn so much from your videos mate... keep them coming 👍

[@Gidjoiner]

Good, glad to hear it, will do, Thanks Ian 👍

[@pneumaroofingltd9468]

Quality! another video packed with tips, from a very experienced tradesman. thank you

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks, nice words much appreciated 👍😊

[@ashilling9283]

Such a good series. The alcove cupboards and shelves look fabulous. Your work is masterful. Learned heaps again. Thanks, Gid--really appreciate your videos!

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks 👍 I glad you appreciate them & it's good that your are learning, that's why I'm sharing so you're welcome 👍👍

[@tomnikesb]

Gid does it again! Quality as ever. Thanks for sharing your knowledge as always.

[@Gidjoiner]

😊👍👍 You're welcome Thanks 👍

[@oldschoolengineer58]

another great video set, keep em coming, thanks for taking the time to share these!

[@Gidjoiner]

Will do, Thanks Roy 👍 Yep it takes time so I'm glad you appreciate them, there was a delay because work/drawing jobs n quoting had to come first 😉👍

[@tomearnshaw8532]

Great stuff.

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks Tom 👍😊

[@Goody953]

I’m totally loving your videos and work Gid. I’ve gone back and watched everyone of your videos now. Looking forward to watching more great work from you. I’m learning so much for watching you thanks for sharing some good little tips along the way 👍🏻. Best carpentry videos on KZbin

[@Gidjoiner]

😊😄 Good, I'm glad to hear it, That's what I'm trying to share, 35yrs apprentice trained, time served joiner just sharing my work with no bullshit , I'm glad you appreciate them & hopefully they'll will help you. Thanks 👍

[@Lyndalewinder]

Yet another great series of videos - thanks for taking the time to do this for us Gid.

[@Gidjoiner]

Good glad you like them & you're welcome. Thanks 👍

[@l1verm0m]

Brilliant Gid... you’re spoiling us - 3 videos at once😉

[@Gidjoiner]

🤸‍♂️ 😊 I had to draw n quote for work so the vids got put on hold n started to build up but also..I hate waiting for 'the next part' I record a series of a program then watch 3-4 at a time on the tv so I think I'd like it to be the same on YT, 😉

[@l1verm0m]

Gid Joiner Me to but unfortunately a lot of KZbin content providers don’t share your work ethic. I see your up to 7k subscribers now - told you they’d come 😉😉. Thanks for continuing to educate us amateurs mate 👍👍

[@Gidjoiner]

@@l1verm0m 👍 Yeah 'they' are more about putting out a vid each week like clockwork, poss part of the agreement with their sponsors, Yep growing slowly, 😊 n you're welcome 👍

[@sanbucaone]

Another great install Gid, like the construction of shelf’s. You need a fan when it’s warm. Cheers Gid Steve.

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks, yeah too warm in there but outside was just as bad, he did put a big fan on a stand in there because they couldn't open the windows but nooooo, the noise & wind did my head in immediately 🤣👍

[@simonclayton3390]

Another brilliant set of videos, fantatic work cant wait for the next set

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks Simon 👍 I've got another alcove job coming up that I'll be spraying but other stuff between.

[@timsmith7488]

Another great job gid look grand mate always great detail cheers Tim

[@Gidjoiner]

😊 I can't share everything in each vid but I squeeze as much as poss in 😉 Thanks Tim 👍

[@alannoble272]

Brilliant gid.

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks Alan 👍

[@michaelcurtis6664]

Rate job that Gid top work as ever. Loving your content. Thanks for taking the time to share your work with us 👍👍

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks Michael 👍 Yep it takes a bit of time to make these but you're welcome & your thanks is appreciated 😊

[@reevvaa]

Really enjoyed that series Gid, looking forward to the next job. Thanks mate

[@Gidjoiner]

Good 😊 Thanks 👍 There's another coming up that'll i'll be spraying, some other assorted bits in between

[@stevendean346]

Brilliant job as always, love the self idea looks mint 👍🏾

[@Gidjoiner]

Good glad you like them, Thanks Steven 👍

[@glencrawford8125]

Brilliant looks superb I learn something new everytime thanks for your time in sharing,and as always look forward to next one. :]

[@Gidjoiner]

Good, You're welcome, i do worry they're going to be repetitive but every jobs different & i can't explain/share everything in each vid, Thanks Glen 👍

[@waynede2837]

Another cracking job Gid . Keep em coming

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks 👍 will do, got another coming that I'll be spraying, might be a bit samey 😊

[@rodgerq]

Great quality as usual.

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks Rodger 👍

[@gbwildlifeuk8269]

Impressive once again! 👍👍

[@Gidjoiner]

😊 Thanks 👍

[@pauldyche5096]

Nice work Gid I like it 👌🏻

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks Paul 😊👍

[@james6609]

hi gid yet another excellent job regards james

[@Gidjoiner]

Hi, Good 😊 Thanks James 👍

[@kerryjeeves1330]

Great video Gid thank you 👍

[@Gidjoiner]

You're welcome Thanks Kerry 👍

[@stevewood7884]

Another great video gid, I'm learning lots, keep up the good work 👍

[@Gidjoiner]

Good, I'm glad n will do, Thanks Steve 👍

[@louiesworkshop2023]

As always pal, I learn from your approach and better way of doing things, great work as always Gid, regards Louie, Ulster Workshops.

[@Gidjoiner]

Good, I'm glad 👍 I've seen n done things in many ways over the yrs n chosen or found that some ways are better or easier, just sharing so anyone can then have a chance to see other ways too, Thanks 👍

[@ivanfinlay7758]

Hi Louie good to see a fellow Ulsterman who follows Gids master class where abouts in Ulster are you buddy and can you do work of this quality because i know i would struggle Best regards

[@louiesworkshop2023]

@@ivanfinlay7758 hi Ivan, I am blessed to live on the Coast, near The Port, as for my work, I am 47 and only now in my life am I getting the results with wood i want, but much more improvement needed buddy i fear!! I enjoy watching Gid, i dont think anything puzzles him when he's building!! Nice to talk with you, kind regards louie

[@louiesworkshop2023]

@@Gidjoiner You no you just might be turning into Norm Abram! Lol keep it up pal, you do make it look easy and ofcourse it takes skill to do just that regards louie

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks 👍 As long as i don't develop an american accent that'll be fine 🤭

[@fabscams4136]

Great video as always - wish I had seen your videos before I did my own alcove cupboards!

[@Gidjoiner]

😄 Always the case eh? Thanks Fabs 👍

[@pincermovement72]

Really useful advice throughout and a great finished product, I hope you charged enough for the work you put in . One thing though would you consider after spending more on beech whether to push the boat out and not use mdf for the shelves and insert because I think with a stain this would have been even better . Was it expense or customer preference to choose that green colour ?

[@paulwhitting4953]

In those tight spaces I use a cardboard template. I get 2 pieces of cardboard, both about 2/3rds the length of the gap. Place one over the other. Pencil scribe both ends. Cut with a pair of scissors & lay them back in place. Move each piece to the scribed ends & sellotape the two pieces together. Perfect template. 👍👍👍

[@alankirbywoodworking]

Nicely done Gid 👍

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks Alan 👍

[@frankmorris2870]

Great quality as usual Gid keep up the good work, would have put a solid slip on worktops myself but everyone to their own. looks great

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks Frank 👍 each job is different, solid slips might look ok to begin with but can show through later because the board & slip will move/expand at different amounts, thin edging can then get knocked off. I avoid putting edging on unless it's ply where there's no choice, in that case like the shelves i put a piece with decent thickness on.

[@brianoneill350]

Great way to learn. Stupid question, where did you get your dust sheets

[@Gidjoiner]

👍 The bigger dust sheets i got a while ago from a decorators suppliers, Johnsons i think, I acquire normal bed sheets whenever I'm offered by people who know i might use them😉

[@kennelson7591]

Great video, when putting the shelves in could you mark a line all the way around the front frame when you have got it in its final position then remove it and then fit the shelves ? thats what I do makes it a lot easier for me.

[@Gidjoiner]

Hi & thanks Ken 👍 yes and no is my answer, putting the shelves in without the front frame fixed in place would be easier and sometimes I have no choice but to do that. I suspect that the frame would need offering up a couple of times to make sure that the shelf is correct? But I quite often put a base in the cupboard which covers up fixings at the bottom of the front frame so the base board would have to go in after the shelves if they were to be fitted before the front frame is fixed in, shelves, fix front frame to the floor, then the base to cover those fixings? Once I fix the front frame in I'm reluctant to remove it to fit the shelves, I feel like I'm going backwards & I don't find fitting the shelves after the front too hard, it can be a bit awkward but if I have to remove one of the supporting battens it's less work than having to refit the front frame, & the final thought is that when I'm discussing the build with the clients the amount of shelves is pretty much decided, but I say that they can decide on those later when they can see the cupboard and have a better idea of the size inside etc, 1 or 2 shelves? They often don't sound too sure at the beginning & can't envision the finished piece even though I've given them a scale drawing, swings and roundabouts as to which order, if you find it easier the way you mention & it works for you then that's you're perogative, the finished piece is the important thing 👍 😊

[@sperks73]

Great series (as always) Gid; a real masterclass in scribing. If the shelves were to be spayed, how would this have changed your approach, as you wouldn't have been able to glue & pin on site?

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks 👍 I never really considered how much scribing i did until making these vids 😂the shelves I would make them in a similar way on my bench, prob using the lock mitre cutter for the front as it gives a neater finish but leave the timber frame inside 20mm+ back from the edges so a batten could be fitted to the sides & back wall of the alcove & then the sprayed shelf would slide in over those & just be glued, problem with that is the alcove is never square so getting a good fit is hard, the made-up/sprayed shelf could be scribed to the correct shape but cutting nice fresh paint & getting a clean cut on both sides, & if the front of the alcove is smaller than the back it won't slide in 😣😂

[@stevereed5776]

Another masterclass in carpentry Gid, I wish I seen all your vids prior to doing all the work in my own house. Now want to get into spraying as I’m shit at painting so been looking at your technique for that too as you get a great finish. Keep up the great videos. What those magnetic catches called? I use the ones from B&Q and they’re not great!

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks 👍 I have a 50L Bostitch compressor, it's only just big enough for what I'm spraying, if i had to replace it i would get a 100L+ machine with the highest cfm i could afford, cfm is how fast the pump refills the tank, The Devilbiss FLG5 with 1.8mm nozzle is my favourite no'1 gun, Id recommend that, it will spray almost anything but there are cheaper ANI guns, £24, that work fine & could be a starting gun to practice with, i have two of those, a compressor in a garage/workshop is a good thing anyway, blowing off work, nailguns, inflating tires.... This company are good people for sprayguns, the compressor I'd have to look into when the time comes but my little site Wolf 6L compressor is 25yrs old n still works well even though it's been knocked around a lot so would consider one of those if they make them as well as they did www.spraygunsdirect.co.uk/index.php/ They're these but i don't pay screwfix price, Google Carlisle magnetic catch, there's cheaper ones online www.screwfix.com/p/carlisle-brass-magnetic-catch-nickel-plated-15-x-14mm/2077p#_=p

[@stevereed5776]

Thank Gid, much appreciated. Keep up the greats vids

[@simonmiddleton2990]

As always excellent videos Gid with loads of tips , dying to try the MR MDF but it is £35.00 a sheet in Wickes

[@Gidjoiner]

😉 Thanks Simon 👍 I remember someone saying they live on the coast with no big shops? Is that the only store near you, ?

[@the_humble_workshop5718]

@@Gidjoiner that will be me 😂😂, I just order from a builders merchants or timber merchants most will deliver for free, you've sometimes got to wait if they have to order it in, but worth the wait , you will have to buy the full sheets unlike BQ or wicks , hardwood like beech, oak etc are difficult for me 🤔🙄😔

[@simonmiddleton2990]

@@Gidjoiner I did reply Gid but cannot see my reply , i live in Manchester so there must be some decent wood yards ,ill have to do a bit of research and see if i can find it elsewhere, if not i will just pay the £35 at wickes . Going slightly off subject i wanted to pick your brains Gid regarding pre-cat versus two part paint , i am thinking of having a go at spraying my upvc windows, they are the typical white windows, i have half a can of dark grey pre-cat left from when i repaired and sprayed my sons kitchen and was going to use that ,but i am pretty sure in one of your videos you stated that two part dries to a harder finish . What do you think Gid , is the pre-cat up to the job or would you say buy the two part which i have not tried yet .

[@Gidjoiner]

Hi, There's several kinds of paint, single & two part, it's not the hardness i would be thoughtful of, I wouldn't use the Pre-cat on plastic, I'd go with the PU i use normally, plastic paint for plastic windows, both are enamels but there's a flexibility in the PU paint but not in the pre-cat, to be honest tho I've no idea what the outcome of either would be, & to clean the UPVC first? I know the PU thinners melts some plastics, Go for it n good luck 😂👍

[@MrAshshort]

Another great video gid, out of interested how long did this job take from start to finish

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks Ashley, 👍 Sorry i don't don't know exactly, when pricing i roughly work on a wk to build n another wk to spray, i'll tweek that depending on each job, I agree a price with the clients then it's up to me to get it done within a reasonable length of time because the final price is the quoted price unless they change something, 😉

[@MrAshshort]

@@Gidjoiner thanks for the reply

[@Gidjoiner]

@@MrAshshort no prob 👍 sorry to be vague,

[@MrAshshort]

@@Gidjoiner Thats ok i find it difficult sometimes when quoting ,always a pain when things get changed halfway through though

[@joefowler9600]

Very nice job Gid! just out of interest, how much roughly would a job like this cost?

[@Gidjoiner]

Hi Joe, thanks 👍 Sorry it's hard to give a price as I don't share my details on here but for a job like this it's about a wks labour 5-7days + materials, every job is different, Materials would prob be £100-£150-ish , A morning shopping, machining and making doors takes the most time, a couple/few days, then a day or two fitting it in the house, I don't rush to get the job done, I want it done right even if it takes a bit longer but I don't charge more for that extra time, the final invoice I give is the same as the original quote unless they change something along the way, sometimes waiting for glue to dry can add time because 2 days quoted work (16hrs) sometimes has to be spread across 3days, on this job making the floating shelves was a little time consuming,

[@justthatguyparker2796]

What size are those spring clamps like what is the maximum they can hold?

[@simdog635]

Nice one Gid, ref your shelf, do you drill at the laser line or do you align top/bottom of the battens against the laser

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks Steve 👍 It depends if i can set the laser up, if i can set to the correct height i would work top/bottom of the batten, when screwing the piece on the hole could be anywhere but where the batten or whatever is getting fixed to the wall is fixed is the important thing, just as if you're sitting a level on top of it, quite often tho the laser is just a level line to measure from.

[@ericwatt2914]

Hi Gid, a what is the green coloured wood? Is the MR MDF also? Great video 👌

[@Gidjoiner]

Hi, thanks Eric, this was made with Beech & Medite MR MDF (the green board) There's some other brands of MDF but Medite is the best n doesn't cost much more.

[@ericwatt2914]

@@Gidjoiner thank you for your reply and time to respond. I could do woth you doing my alcoves 🤣

[@Gidjoiner]

👍👍😁

[@Danboi0]

Did you use an mdf strip and glue that to The front of the shelf before gluing the rest of the board to the batons

[@Gidjoiner]

Hi, i fixed a piece on after the boards were on, better if you watch this video Pt4 kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnmafYCXpaansNE

[@nickperkins2103]

lovely build Giddy, did you have a go of the piano ?

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks 👍 tempted but no, i don't really see other things in peoples houses, I had to refer to a pic to see what the curtains were like, hard to miss a big piano but I just don't go there, don't touch anything i don't have to, knowing my luck I'd just break something 😂

[@martinmackett2758]

Jobs a gooden 😃👍👍

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks Martin 👍

[@drewpluck8701]

When you gonna post again brother miss the vids

[@Gidjoiner]

Hi, sorry I'll be coming back at some point, weird yr last yr & was just getting to a point that i could edit the many clips i'd made of the jobs i was on but I was poorly at Xmas, Pneumonia & Sepsis, it messed me up a bit,, I did try doing some bits of work but i'm finding I just need to get myself up n running before thinking too much about work, I'm not rushing & I don't bounce back quite as would've done a few yrs ago 😊 I put a post on Facebook of hospital pics. facebook.com/media/set/?vanity=gid.joiner&set=a.5954405001312483

[@janmurdoch7986]

Really nice job. What laser level do you use. I need to fit my kitchen and was planning on getting one to level everything.

[@Gidjoiner]

Thanks 👍 this one is a Dewalt DW088CG laser, The green lasers are easier to see in brighter light but are more expensive, for many yrs i made do with red laser until one day it didn't survive a bounce 😒😉

[@lloydrobson6828]

Again really helpful set of videos Gid! I like the way that you do the floating shelfs :) Your router table, did you put that together yourself and whats the model of router you use matey?

[@Gidjoiner]

Good glad you like them 😉 The router table is a box i threw together n needs rebuilding,, one day.. 😄 It's a Trend router insert plate & a Triton TRA001 router, the lift mechanism & collet that extends above the top is good for a table mounted machine. Thanks Lloyd 👍

[@Pistol_Knight]

Can I ask, why not edge the shelf fronts/Tops with Beech?

[@Gidjoiner]

It's all going to get painted, different materials move at different rates so lippings tend to show after a while & get knocked off, these shelves were to look like seamless boxes , Why would i want to lip the edges with Beech? I lip the front of the internal shelves to stiffen/strengthen the front edge & to cover the ugly plywood edge but generally I avoid putting lippings on whenever possible,

[@Pistol_Knight]

I thought the beech doors would have had a finish on them for the 'wood look' might have well made them out of MR Mdf

[@Gidjoiner]

I have this comment saved for this sorry it's long n copied n pasted, - The basic answer is compared to Beech MDF is crap, It's about the quality of the base material & therefore the quality of the overall job, wood is wood to me so painting it is no issue but some woods are better than others, for quite a while i used pine, 'cheapest price' i was asked for but the shrinkage & warping later when the pieces went into a centrally heated house were unacceptable to me, Beech doesn't cost that much more on a job of this price, the time & expense put in ya might as well have a decent substrate that'll stay relatively stable for it's lifetime, Beech is harder than pine & 100 times better than MDF, it's fairly straight grained with little or no knots, it's not just the longevity tho you can feel the difference after it's sprayed, the temperature, the hardness & the way it shuts just gives it a better well made feel. I build these things with the hope that they will still be around in 50yrs like the old pieces that are still sometimes around, they were often made of pine, which is what i was/am trying to emulate but the quality of the wood (pine) was better then, if i bought planed pse pine i would still have to machine it sq n straight because off the shelf it never is, so the labour in preparing the wood is not much different & cutting the dominos is the same for both & maybe the same time spent would be spent on the joint of MDF whether that is a spline/scribe/groove or domino. I would use MDF if I didn't care too much & the job was cheap, if i didn't expect them to last more than 5yrs, if i wanted a very flat no grain finish or if it had to be done with that material through customers choice for whatever reason (prob against my advise), Mdf boards never come straight so tall doors can be a problem, screws don't hold as well as they do in Beech so hinges tend to come loose, fitting butt hinges into the edge of MDF is not reasonably poss, I use ply for the carcass on some jobs for a similar reason so the screws in hinges/hinge mounting plates, hanging rails & drawer runners hold well, When spraying there is an inside & outside edge on the stiles n rails, MDF feathers a little so there would be more work there sanding, i give my customers the option of ply or MDF panels on the doors, you get a very flat finish with the MDF, Ply is a slightly better material but there's a possibility of seeing the grain through the paint, their choice?, when sanding these doors with beech stiles & MR MDF (I only use Medite MR MDF) panels it's always the panels that need the most sanding, I do sometimes use MDF for doors & drawer fronts, normally when it's just a plain flat door i want but I have a list of materials in my head, MDF is the very bottom & would be my last choice for shaker doors. unless it was a bespoke style/sized door to match an existing set you might as buy some, there's loads of MDF units/furniture on the market, a lot cheaper than asking me to build one, Building out of MDF is not the quality that my clients ask for or expect from me

[@Pistol_Knight]

@@Gidjoiner Only asked lol. But I agree, the pine today is not worth a wank MR MDF does hold it's shape well, I have not checked out the prices of beech for a while while, so not sure of the price difference, most people want it as cheap as possible, cheapest way MR MDF (if I dont have to paint it :))

[@Toyotaamazon80series]

@@Pistol_Knight Sad but true, most people have no taste and don't value real craftsmanship. These same people will spend a grand on a 60" flat screen television but would baulk at you for asking them for the same money for a handcrafted dining table, 🙄🙄 I would love to have been a tradesman fifty or sixty Years ago. Back when craftsmanship was appreciated and the quality of the timber was much better.

[@garrysmythe]

Another great set of videos mate, could have worn a nice shirt and tie and had a shave if you intended being on the video yer scruffy sod lol, one serious question mate, would it not have been easier to use Kitchen unit type hinges that give you decent adjustment, keep posting Gid, love em and nice to see a job well done, well videoed without 3 grands worth of cameras , and also, bloody well explained, nice to hear the old Barnsley phrase " k' unt be bolloxed " the letter K was exchanged for the "C " for legal reasons lol, and I know you didn,t use the F word at all, lol brilliant mate, don,t ever change, yer magic pal

[@Gidjoiner]

Never shave, if they don't like it then ... 😉 yep a lot of people do projects to make videos for YT, I film my work for YT, the filming bit is secondary to my work so just my phone in my pocket is all it prob will ever be, I spend a few hrs discussing details of a job, sizes, materials, hardware etc. cabinet hinges do give adjustment, self closing with soft close or push to open but they do sag a little in time & I would have had to put a piece 65mm inside for the mounting plate, butt hinges should last many many yrs with little sagging the doors will prob show signs of age before the hinges, swings n roundabouts for each job. Thanks Garry 👍

[@garrysmythe]

For none Yorkshire people, " Looks a dog " is Yorkshire slang for sonething that is not looking at its best lol

[@Gidjoiner]

😊👍👍