georgia was the only good part about the entire show help
@MyFiveCents3 жыл бұрын
Georgia was for sure the most entertaining.. was about to say I liked Joe a lot but then briefly forgot his name lmfao
@Hi-ky2wd3 жыл бұрын
Some of the side characters like Ellen, Joe, Austin, and the guy who dated the detective were good.
@nx11003 жыл бұрын
@@Hi-ky2wd yep agreeable
@scarlovesreading64733 жыл бұрын
FR
@penunoli3 жыл бұрын
She's the only reason I watch, sometimes I even skip ginny scenes to get to Georgia xD
@mj_mj_mj3 жыл бұрын
I hate how Marcus gets glamourised because he’s attractive. He literally climbed into a strangers room (who was a minor) refused to get out and no one even talks about it?? It completely normalises predatory behaviour.
@wendymedrano30973 жыл бұрын
They are both 15 she is older actually
@wendymedrano30973 жыл бұрын
But I get it
@kadeshcato3 жыл бұрын
They’re both the same age
@kadeshcato3 жыл бұрын
@Stupidity At It's Finest where did I say it wasn’t I’m confused.
@twitterodammit50823 жыл бұрын
I mean, theyre both minors
@moonmuun3 жыл бұрын
that oppression olympics clip made me lose 25 years of my life
@lesbiangoddess2903 жыл бұрын
The cringiest thing I've ever seen. I want to cry
@Ivuxoxo3 жыл бұрын
Same
@lineagewarrior73783 жыл бұрын
“Let’s go!” 😂
@ncxymj81823 жыл бұрын
@@lesbiangoddess290 when hunter used “homie” 💀💀
@pipermagenta3 жыл бұрын
fr. As an Asian person it made me so uncomfy
@ouiouid69853 жыл бұрын
Hey guys let’s just appreciate Joe, Padma and all the other characters that didn’t get the appreciation they deserve
@confusedgorl3 жыл бұрын
Not Norah she didnt say anything when Abby said that Ginny shoplifted . She just sits there and doesn't really do anything as a good friend will do.
@Naomi-lt1tc3 жыл бұрын
Norah is fake asf🥂
@confusedgorl3 жыл бұрын
@@Naomi-lt1tc fr😒
@ouiouid69853 жыл бұрын
@@confusedgorl yeah I was gonna edit Norah out when I first made this comment but I guess I forgot lol but yeah Norah was really superficial and fake
@marinastella66133 жыл бұрын
the actors that play Joe and Padma are actually siblings!
@jamilabrownie3 жыл бұрын
Girl thank you for bringing up the criticism of minorities talking about being minorities in this show. I’ve seen it elsewhere and it’s such a lazy trope, like we don’t have identities beyond our race. It’s bizarre
@lesbiangoddess2903 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY. I want to have a good time for once. Like can we at least live in the fictional world
@NessaH3 жыл бұрын
RIGHT! I'm biracial (black & white) and I have no problem talking about race and identity but it's frustrating seeing hollywood make it like that's all we care and think about. Just let us have fun characters😔
@kenhymarmitchel63682 жыл бұрын
@@NessaH thank you! It’s not always about race.
@jinikapoor61493 жыл бұрын
Someone please tell Netflix this isn't how teenagers talk ffs
@amariahxo4503 жыл бұрын
They was good up until hunter
@sillychuu3 жыл бұрын
“You a baddie”
@bunnyhungry73673 жыл бұрын
FR. Who says "get juicy with it"?
@fagioli70633 жыл бұрын
@@bunnyhungry7367 sksksksks 😭✋
@sarilchowdhury39553 жыл бұрын
@@bunnyhungry7367 bruh no one even in the fucking 90s would say that shit what the fuck was that line 🤣
@veerle93453 жыл бұрын
honestly, the way the teenagers in the show talked (particularly MAN) made me wonder if the show was trying to be a satirical, over-the-top take on teenagers?
@amariahxo4503 жыл бұрын
They’re around my generation and some of us do actually talk like that
@kalebtewodros2 жыл бұрын
It needs to be funny for it to be satire Also, it is true that some people talk like that, but they do sound just as robotic and “fellow-kidsy” as I’ve been shown in the show
@d3adfairys173 жыл бұрын
I don’t like how they said Ginny doesn’t fit In with the white kids or the black kids but when the black kids try to include her she dismisses them and doesn’t even try to form a relationship with them.
@majolaladipo85632 жыл бұрын
Exactly! Like when she brushed off Bracia multiple times to be with her white friends 😒
@vernicegirl8987 Жыл бұрын
@@majolaladipo8563t makes sense. Her mom is white so in my opinion, she identifies more with her white side and white people which is fine. But it’s just annoying how the show tries to make us feel bad because she “doesn’t fit in” with white or black people when she clearly dismissed black people to be friends with white people.
@evedits02773 жыл бұрын
I couldn't even finish this show and after seeing how bad it is, I'm glad. I stopped at the second episode because it was too cringe...
@MyFiveCents3 жыл бұрын
I'm really gonna start watching all these shows so no one else has to lol
@evedits02773 жыл бұрын
@@MyFiveCents please, be our savoir😂 Btw, i like how you talk about the shows! ^^ ♡
@MyFiveCents3 жыл бұрын
@@evedits0277 thank you! lmk if you ever have a show in mind so we can be in pain together
@evedits02773 жыл бұрын
@@MyFiveCents Hmm, the show Julie and the phantoms was kinda wierd and annoying, but I may be wrong because I stopped watching it cause it bored me
@nativenewyorker31443 жыл бұрын
@@evedits0277 Noooo JATP is actually a really good show. The fact that it’s a show meant for kids and has better writing, characters, character development, and diversity than this show says a lot.
@Sun.Shine-3 жыл бұрын
At one point i started skipping all the ginny's part and solely watched georgia. She had layers to her character and was so much fun to watch. Ginny became ecentric and very annoying later on. [Hated the triangle "love story" btw]. I'd rather watch "never have i ever" for teen drama✌️
@sanjana96953 жыл бұрын
Georgia carries the show
@lolapeet92813 жыл бұрын
Never Have I Ever is SO good!! Loved everything about it
@milflovinglesbian_81673 жыл бұрын
NEVER HAVE I EVER WAS AMAZING BRO. AND IT SHOWS GOOD POC REPRESENTATION WITHOUT THAT MANY STEREOTYPES
@rsndompersononlineАй бұрын
OK IM LATE BUT NEVER HAVE I EVER IS 🔛🔝
@TheTasumiNagorashi3 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion: I actually really liked the Opression Olympics scene. Like who is Ginny to tell him he's not Asian enough, especially when she doesn't feel black enough. If anyone, I thought Ginny would know just bc you don't follow the stereotypes of your race, it doesn't make you any less. But no, she had to come in with that bs and he sat her down for it (by intentionally using her logic against her). Ginny will bring up race when it benefits her.
@twinkles1903 жыл бұрын
Yeah fair, same really. I understand some people are really uncomfortable with what Hunter said, but it was all to make Ginny realize how racist she was being towards Asians. Idk if she would have gotten the point if he just said: "That's racist" to her. But fighting racist perceptions with racism is also seems wrong. Just glad Hunter didn't just take it, it really made me feel like he had a personality for the first time.
@WTHnada3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@leanoura97602 жыл бұрын
And she had the audacity to say "eXcUsE mE" when he stereotyped he back.
@madster41323 жыл бұрын
honestly they should have called it georgia & ginny because georgia literally carried the whole show on her back
@Ivuxoxo3 жыл бұрын
Ok can I just say also... the way that the teens interact on social media in shows and movies made by adults has always been hilarious to me cause like... no teen talks like this over text and stuff lmao
@nativenewyorker31443 жыл бұрын
that “happy Friday” scene made me want to gouge my eyes out 👩🏾🦽
@ellasedits_3 жыл бұрын
@@nativenewyorker3144 it makes my toes curl whenever someone mentions it ughahahshshah
@gracienoble28803 жыл бұрын
I mean Marcus definitely wasn't the worst character imo. The climbing in through the window thing has never been cute and will never be cute. But I think he's one of the few characters in this show that made me laugh. His reaction to the tap dancing scene is iconic.
@penunoli3 жыл бұрын
7:14 bro I WISH we got more of him he's so cute and even has a short backstory with Georgia
@babiirae7293 жыл бұрын
Is he joe?
@-ana_banana-20983 жыл бұрын
They try to be the Gilmore girls and fail miserably
@SpiceUpYourLife1233 жыл бұрын
There were probably 2 or 3 people of color in Gilmore Girls which made it hard for me personally to relate to any character on that show. G&G is far from perfect but at least I can see small glimpses of myself in it (which is a sad sentiment in itself if you really think about it) it sucks to be happy about receiving the bare minimum but I’ll take it for now and hope that the show can improve somehow for representations sake💀
@monicasania85393 жыл бұрын
Not at all. Y’all see any show I with a young mom & daughter duo and automatically say Gilmore girls. Think of something new bc it’s no similarities...
@lovinsasha3 жыл бұрын
i was so angry at Blacia’s character. It was so sloppily put in and was performative.
@cameronesp3 жыл бұрын
when the opression olympics scene came up I had to watch it multiple times because i was shocked
@jordynn64302 жыл бұрын
It annoys me that I know ginny thinks she is struggling the most. An example of this is just when MANG met up bc abby was going through it and Ginny’s just like “I’m sorry but I was going through stuff too” LIKE OKAY BUT U CAN BE THERE FOR UR FRIEND OML she deserved that slap 100% also ginny acts like her being lightskin she has it 2000000% harder than ppl who are darker than her when in reality being lightskin is the ideal look for black ppl
@izzyy64693 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who wondered why Ginny never had a screen on that open window in September
@arisjernigan16373 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more lol. I also binged watched the entire season in one go but I couldn't explain why since I knew it wasn't good.
@karawigley62312 жыл бұрын
I’m biracial, black & white, & it is accurate. In fact, I’ve been asked some of the same exact questions the character got asked on the show & I will never understand people who feel comfortable asking a practical stranger such personal/slightly offensive questions. Like, why does it matter which one of my parents is white & which is black. Also, people bring up my hair & ask to touch it all the time because “if I’m half black why does my hair look like that?” It just sounds ridiculous to others who haven’t been through it.
@MG-cy3tb3 жыл бұрын
That was the PILOT? I literally thought it was the whole show…
@WTHnada3 жыл бұрын
Some of the stuff at the end happened later in the series
@macencheese60583 жыл бұрын
Why does Hunter literally look like Hunter from ever after high???? It’s the hair!
@darksun20633 жыл бұрын
Every time I say I hate this show everyone is like whaaaaat nooo it was so good. And I’m just like 🥴🙃
@MarniCollier2 жыл бұрын
The guy who plays Marcus is just popping up in everything and played the exact same character every time, Australia expected more From you Felix
@switchunboxing Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the show. I also felt the Taylor Swift line felt like 2017. I did also consider that the characters aren’t perfect and that these ladies are living in a patriarchy which is often the subject of the show - so the line was not unrealistic at all. I understand Swift being mad about it but honestly I’m not sure it was out of line overall. As for the oppression Olympics I just couldn’t stop wondering, like I often do while watching the show - “Is this a conversation that really takes place between people of color?” I often wonder if it is, or if these are scenes imagined by white people with no reference. Idk the show does shoehorn these topics every now and again while sometimes making a decent commentary on it but I’m often left wondering if the writers really are an authority on the subject like they portray to be.
@mynameisddotcalm10082 жыл бұрын
The title is the most relatable thing I’ve ever seen lol
@barbitch27183 жыл бұрын
I think the oppresion Olympics was fair on hunters side I mean... ginny started going off about how he's not asian enough? Like a mororn??? And he did the same thing so yea that sceme was uncomfortable asf but it's ginnys fault in the end.
@WTHnada3 жыл бұрын
I think Hunter was initially ignorant to what Ginny was trying to say so she got mad and started saying a bunch of bullshit-which honestly makes sense for teenagers but I just know it wasn’t done on purpose and the whole reason behind it was bc the writing was white and terrible.
@adenikekuku97913 жыл бұрын
let’s not forgot the way ginny got mad at georgia for not letting her see her grandparents AFTER georgia told her how they abused her
@Alex-wx6he3 жыл бұрын
She got mad over being lied to tho, still shitty but understandable
@katimagines3 жыл бұрын
She stopped being mad about the grandparents AFTER her mother finally told the truth about them. She only wanted to meet them before she knew the truth. She was mad about being LIED to.
@no-oc7nz3 жыл бұрын
@@katimagines she is still annoying
@jennellrobinson12643 жыл бұрын
@@katimagines Georgia obviously didn’t want to tell her because of how it traumatized her. She’s not obligated to tell her something that sad and disgusting that happened in her life. And Ginny lies too. So she’s a hypocrite
@katimagines3 жыл бұрын
@@jennellrobinson1264 Ginny lies about what? How does Ginny's lies actually impact anyone? Georgia didn't need to tell her every detail, but she didn't need to lie. She shouldn't have told her that she had no family, but told her that they were awful to her and she doesn't want them to be apart of their life. The show suggests Austin's father might actually be a really bad guy, but because of Georgia's lies, Austin and Ginny are actively going to seek him out. If she had told them what kind of person he was, that wouldn't have happened. Lying to your children doesn't protect them, it only blinds them to the truth and therefore more likely to be hurt the way you were and also by your lies.
@allie63243 жыл бұрын
the only thing i have to say about the show is that ginny deserved that slap
@Ivuxoxo3 жыл бұрын
And didn’t deserve a apology for the slap 😀
@psylocke_1013 жыл бұрын
@@Ivuxoxo and ginny had no right to slap people
@Ivuxoxo3 жыл бұрын
@@psylocke_101 fr
@darksun20633 жыл бұрын
I never hated a character so much I swear I like villains more than her
@Ivuxoxo3 жыл бұрын
@@darksun2063 SAME LMAO
@niamhharikasen78483 жыл бұрын
so i binge watched this show when it came but i have a few thoughts: - i know everyone loves marcus but the way he climbed through her window was creepy and it made me uncomfortable - how is hunter one of the most popular guys at school? - i hated how marcus treated padma, she deserved better - paul was beyond cringe, joe all the way (i think she's gonna end up with him in the next season anyways lmao) - austin is basically the best character
@oracleaway3 жыл бұрын
Yesss I don’t get the hype with Marcus he was one of my least favorite characters.
@niamhharikasen78483 жыл бұрын
@@oracleaway it's because he's attractive and has had past trauma from his friend dying i guess that gives you a free pass in climbing through a girl's window at night without getting called out💀
@oracleaway3 жыл бұрын
@@niamhharikasen7848 Bye- he is not even attractive he looks like every Wattpad bad boy stereotype. And just because he has trauma doesn’t make him a good characters. People just to ignore the fact how bad he treated his girlfriend
@niamhharikasen78483 жыл бұрын
@@oracleaway right, instead of just telling padma that he's feeling something for ginny (for whatever reason you'd fall for a girl who you barely even talked to and on top of that whose only personality trait is that she's a brat) but instead he made her feel like crap, i feel sorry for her.
@lesbiangoddess2903 жыл бұрын
Totally agree
@imani0nline3 жыл бұрын
I find myself enjoying the show at times and they hit me with the oppression olympics and I have to reevaluate 😶
@MyFiveCents3 жыл бұрын
Me too-I’m conflicted because it was entertaining and I also liked parts of it! But it became, as they say, a lot
@Hi-ky2wd3 жыл бұрын
Yeah same
@vegsamosa3 жыл бұрын
Omg I see u everywhere
@spookyho59943 жыл бұрын
samee
@Ivuxoxo3 жыл бұрын
I only enjoyed the Joe scenes 🥲
@nemofish35043 жыл бұрын
Ginny made everything EVERYTHING about her. They could’ve really done something with this show, where they showed what it’s like to be half black and half white. The prejudice they experience from the white and the black side of their family but they just... did it do trrribly.
@himanshisobti69373 жыл бұрын
Teenagers do tend to make everything about them
@bye15463 жыл бұрын
She has dealt with all those things that everything she does is out of anger
@Ivuxoxo3 жыл бұрын
@@himanshisobti6937 depends on the teenager but like... half the ppl criticizing ginny ARE teenagers who watched the show and aren’t self entitled lmao
@heavenleigh82733 жыл бұрын
Just cause she’s biracial doesn’t mean that has to be her whole attribute to the show or even her character. I think the show was more about her being a selfish teenager that has issues and a crazy immature mother that trying to do her best in a way ...
@heavenleigh82733 жыл бұрын
@@Ivuxoxo but yea this may be some peoples reality though
@icedoatmilklatte9103 жыл бұрын
The writers really thought they were doing something with that “oppression olympics” monologue
@beminae16033 жыл бұрын
Fr! Like the whole convo made me cringe and was definitely my least favourite part of the show
@vanishastewart89393 жыл бұрын
One of the actors wrote that scene from experience
@hithere24773 жыл бұрын
@@vanishastewart8939 oh is that true?
@icedoatmilklatte9103 жыл бұрын
@@vanishastewart8939 yikes 😬
@Ella-px1xw3 жыл бұрын
I kind of like that scene. As a black woman hearing hunter say all those stereotypes pissed me off. But then I realized Ginny had just done the same thing to him. I think we rarely talk about the racism Asian Americans go through and Black racism is the only form of racism in a lot of peoples minds. We have to understand people come as they are and there is no such thing as acting “white”. Ginny let all those comments about her under that song video get to her so she felt really confused and wanted him to feel that way too. Which is wrong.
@magicalbutterfly1003 жыл бұрын
One thing Ginny and Georgia did really well though was their incorporation of the deaf father. How naturally he was placed within the scenes. They didn't need this huge scene of explaining why he is deaf and how to do sign language and whatever. I loved how naturally the children signed when they spoke at dinner even if they weren't speaking directly to the father. Also when the sister gets put in bed by her brother, they sign to each other even though they don't need to. Whether that was incorporated within the script or suggested by the director, hats off for making it so realistic.
@WTHnada3 жыл бұрын
No. I heard they didn’t even bother to properly line up the sign-language that the wife was doing so that it made sense
@offsewingdragons91428 ай бұрын
i know some asl and i understood some of it. also asl isnt a word for word translation of english, its an interpretation of the meaning of a sentance (often in English)
@maygeen1883 жыл бұрын
One thing I hated about max was that they tried to shove all the stereotypes about Gen Z into one character who was borderline racist at points, but it seemed like they wanted us to brush it all off and make up for it with the fact that she’s gay.
@pandahtoemateo33213 жыл бұрын
THIS!!!!
@Ram-es3hc3 жыл бұрын
IKR
@jasminewadsworth19833 жыл бұрын
I got so pissed off when max just told ginny to brush off that rude comment about her being biracial... they really said "she's not like other white people, she's gay 👍👍"
@subo51433 жыл бұрын
It’s like through in lgbtq characters who do terrible things but brush it off because that person is gay……
@celery83083 жыл бұрын
yupp^^
@carlpowell89603 жыл бұрын
I like how the show contradicts Ginny when she basically says black kids don’t like her. Sometimes it can be true but mostly black kids don’t really notice nor care if your mixed.
@camipco3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. And I liked the way the character addressed it - she makes it clear that light-skin-privilege is real and she's not going to pretend it isn't, but also that it isn't going to be problem or some big drama between them. It felt so much more realistic as to how people of color talk to each other about race than the oppression olympics scene - like people who have lived around racism their whole lives and didn't just learn about it before writing the scene.
@aki90593 жыл бұрын
@@camipco it was made by white women, so there’s the reason why it sucks.
@Mimibonitaa3 жыл бұрын
Yea and they tried to hang out with her but she blew them off.
@thatrandomperson53963 жыл бұрын
I live in South Africa,here it is common to be mixed and have schools with people of all race and no one freaking cares of you're mixed or not. It has never once,in all my years of schooling come up
@Dreadpoolz39773 жыл бұрын
And you know this because you know every black person on the planet and can 100% speak for all of them or are these more internet "facts".
@eliezersantana46483 жыл бұрын
Why is no one talking about how toxic MANG is?!?!?
@bellaharrison62023 жыл бұрын
LITERALLY
@milflovinglesbian_81673 жыл бұрын
IKR.
@T-She-Go3 жыл бұрын
BRO??
@WTHnada3 жыл бұрын
Bc I think that was the point. It was stated in the show?
@kenhymarmitchel63682 жыл бұрын
Yes they were
@godisdead66113 жыл бұрын
Ginny taking off on the motorcycle with no warning then kissing this dude made my skin crawl
@joshuacrazone3 жыл бұрын
litteraly so disgusting
@jennellrobinson12643 жыл бұрын
Straight out of a bad Wattpad book
@saigie39083 жыл бұрын
YES
@izukumidoriya74253 жыл бұрын
@@jennellrobinson1264 my thoughts exactly
@paulaa73453 жыл бұрын
Jesus loves you
@irenepedro18593 жыл бұрын
i feel like ginny perceives herself as someone she really isn’t? Like she wants to be perceived as shy, reserved, quirky unique or whatever. But her actions show otherwise. I think that’s why almost everyone is fed up of her in the end. But she still doesn’t realize it’s all her fault.
@paulaa73453 жыл бұрын
Jesus loves you
@kenhymarmitchel63682 жыл бұрын
Yes she hides behind a mask. She has said that though during the show.
@industrialalliance99053 жыл бұрын
The fact that Ginny the light skin bi-racial girl gets chosen over Padma the South Asian girl whose darker skinned perpetuates the idea that South Asian women are unlovable when she's literally gorgeous and can sing. I hope she finds herself better friends and a good boyfriend.
@melongguk82843 жыл бұрын
i totally feel you on this, I’m south asian too and seeing padma, a south asian character being portrayed as this “loose” and “easy going”….doesn’t sit right with me.
@saraffaisal78363 жыл бұрын
It’s south asian, not south east asian but you got a really good point.
@michaellablaise1093 жыл бұрын
@@melongguk8284 it's a common stereotype to over sexualize brown characters in american media
@levistears54453 жыл бұрын
@@melongguk8284 based off their race? Errr
@mercedesherrera34233 жыл бұрын
Don’t think it’s that deep but okay
@reginarodriguez14773 жыл бұрын
I like what they were trying to do with Ginny’s character, emphasis on trying. The execution just made her out to be the most stereotypical, bratty, straight out of Wattpad teenage girl. I liked that she mailed Austin’s letters to his dad. It showed she actually cares about her little brother and not just herself. But then they add in the fact that Georgia told her she was abused and Ginny’s response is, “I have a right to know about my family,” girl bye
@janenewton99603 жыл бұрын
Austin's dad is in jail. He was probably a bad guy which is why georgia didn't want her kids to contact him.
@monicasania85393 жыл бұрын
@@janenewton9960 jut Ginny dint know that because Georgia doesn’t tell her anything
@sixelakeller53773 жыл бұрын
I thought that they were purposely trying to make Ginny more and more unlikeable as the show went on to show that she does bad things as a reflection of the things her mom has done, since parents are usually role models to their children
@WTHnada3 жыл бұрын
@@janenewton9960 exactly.. Ginny knew nothing about that stuff bc her mom didn’t tell her and that’s probably bc she didn’t want her kids to be burdened or ruined by the same dark stuff she had to deal with. So I personally think her going off and thinking her mom is just irresponsible and she’s more mature than her and she’s the real parent in the situation and she should mail the letters to his dad who is in PRISON.. didn’t like that..
@leanoura97602 жыл бұрын
@@monicasania8539 are you seriously defending ginny right now? She knew that austins dad was in jail
@tsou223 жыл бұрын
the tap dancing scene was the final straw for me
@lesbiangoddess2903 жыл бұрын
It was the most bizarre thing I have ever seen. I hated it
@tsou223 жыл бұрын
@@lesbiangoddess290 ikr like what are u doing
@SpiceUpYourLife1233 жыл бұрын
It was the song for me 💀
@amariahxo4503 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@alphafart3 жыл бұрын
its like mr schuester from glee was apart of the direction team
@reddithighlights1873 жыл бұрын
I’m bi-racial but Asian(India Asian)-American and usually people think I’m a tanned Chinese person. Like- how much people can be unintentionally racist is SHOCKING
@theokunkel3 жыл бұрын
"Unintentionally" 😂 I'm also biracial in predominantly white conservative northern Canada and oh boy, just trying to get my coworkers to not be racist around me is a full time job itself
@kpopfan2463 жыл бұрын
@@theokunkel I’m not sure how corporate works in Canada, but does your HR department does anything? Sometimes they can help, but it would be good to do in case you need to take legal action. It shows that you did everything you can and that the company was negligent, which sounds like they are.
@audreysstuff3 жыл бұрын
This is so random, but from your description you sound beautiful
@reddithighlights1873 жыл бұрын
@@audreysstuff awww tyyy u made me smile
@audreysstuff3 жыл бұрын
@@reddithighlights187 aw no problem haha
@fannyfan293 жыл бұрын
thank you for this!! I just can't understand why people love this show and your video brought up some points I agree with heavily! Part 2??
@MyFiveCents3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching! I definitely had mixed feelings about it because it really did keep me watching until the end lol. I've pretty much said my piece, so maybe stay tuned for a season 2?
@ledwarf9373 жыл бұрын
PLS!!! My sisters are in love with this show!!! I'm suffering!
@ilariasp3 жыл бұрын
I felt so bad for Joe, how could she pick Paul over him??
@alicereeds59523 жыл бұрын
Yes! Joe was so cute, he should be a main character for the next season and have his own journey
@ladytesha13 жыл бұрын
She didn't even look at Joe like that
@kayleemoon._60453 жыл бұрын
@@ladytesha1 joe and her have a past, they have chemistry, she was just to blind to see it
@nuhaakmel6633 жыл бұрын
I dont think she knew it was him😭😭
@leanna23043 жыл бұрын
@@nuhaakmel663 i think they both kinda had their hints about who each other was, like when joe mentioned he had a horse named milkshake she kinda looked like something sparked her memories, and then when ginny pulled out her moms glasses and joe recognized them. i think they both somewhat know but never talked with each other about it
@sprinterCgirl163 жыл бұрын
I have yet to find a KZbin video about Ginny and Georgia commenting on how terrible and toxic Maxine is as a friend
@maayan37253 жыл бұрын
Same! I've been looking for it and I just wrote a comment about it because I couldn't find anyone who talks about that
@Ram-es3hc3 жыл бұрын
@@maayan3725 I hate how she literally forced Ginny to date hunter but got mad when Ginny liked her brother😀
@sprycn31913 жыл бұрын
@@Ram-es3hc Sameee its really annoying
@bissum42273 жыл бұрын
OMG or when maxine suggested she date marcus toward the beginning and then got mad when they were in love??? SO SELFISH. He is her brother, she doesn't own him
@sixelakeller53773 жыл бұрын
@@bissum4227 i think Maxine was mad because of the fact that she was good friends with Ginny yet Ginny never told her about her relationship with Marcus and even lied to her about it
@elidimitrova60373 жыл бұрын
I thought you were explaining how the whole season went not the first episode 😭😭
@ellasedits_3 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD ITS NOT THE WHOLE SEASON???
@ellasedits_3 жыл бұрын
WTF 💀
@aliabarker83093 жыл бұрын
@@ellasedits_ oh yeah it gets REALLY weird
@jj48913 жыл бұрын
This is only the first episode!!?
@kenhymarmitchel63682 жыл бұрын
No she also talks about other episodes
@camipco3 жыл бұрын
Antonia Gentry is of Jamaican ancestry, which is the reason for the "jerk chicken" line which is super weird because that's the actress, not the character.
@chickennuggetz56323 жыл бұрын
It’s not really weird because he said that because she’s half black and black people are supposed to like jerk chicken and stuff like that
@blessednotstressed27393 жыл бұрын
@@chickennuggetz5632 the stereotype isn’t jerk chicken it’s fried chicken so that doesn’t make sense
@chickennuggetz56323 жыл бұрын
@@blessednotstressed2739 it’s both chicken, is it not?
@blessednotstressed27393 жыл бұрын
@@chickennuggetz5632 yes but the specific stereotype is fried chicken. Jerk chicken is linked and associated to Jamaica so that wouldn’t even apply to most black Americans
@chickennuggetz56323 жыл бұрын
@@blessednotstressed2739 it really doesn’t matter, the stereotype is black people love chicken ,either type doesn’t change the fact that it’s a stereotype.
@thefreakfamiliespodcast25393 жыл бұрын
I don't ship Ginny with Marcus or Hunter. Ginny an d Hunter have no personality. Ginny and Marcus are literally just sexual tension no romance whatsoever.
@alyssapinon96703 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@ashley-cf8ur3 жыл бұрын
yup
@jennellrobinson12643 жыл бұрын
right. Like she doesn’t need to be dating anyone she needs to work on her attitude
@WTHnada3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@angieoliv19573 жыл бұрын
someone had to say it
@Pesto_O3 жыл бұрын
this was just a highly entertaining wattpad story in show format that i inhaled in a day, received 3000 in brain damage, and promptly forgot i experienced
@MyFiveCents3 жыл бұрын
Not the 3000 brain damage😭 impressed you had enough HP for it
@kalebtewodros2 жыл бұрын
Tell me how you got your psych resistance that high? I haven’t seen this show, but that static feeling is already creeping in
@ellamackenna31773 жыл бұрын
BYEE every time there’s a Hunter scene I have to skip cause I can’t handle the embarrassment 😭💀
@MMELANDREA27.3 жыл бұрын
Omg exactly! He’s so cringy 😭
@hanadeva12203 жыл бұрын
same im dying
@4eb5903 жыл бұрын
I really did tap through 🤣🤣🤣
@hithere24773 жыл бұрын
I can barley breath when you are near 🥵🥵/s
@christophervargas101-53 жыл бұрын
Yes!! I’ve never seen a title I’ve related to more. Ginny and Georgia is like a car crash, I can’t watch away. I binged all of this in one night and I can’t stop thinking about it🤪🤣🤣
@christophervargas101-53 жыл бұрын
*look away
@MyFiveCents3 жыл бұрын
This happens to me so often regardless of whether I like the show! just lying awake in bed thinking lol, if only I could use my brain for other things
@akeemt193 жыл бұрын
People forget these are suppose to represent 15 year old kids
@nativenewyorker31443 жыл бұрын
bruh I don’t even watch this show I just watch clips of it. When I found out that these characters were supposed to be my age, lemme tell you that I DROPPED DEAD! no freshman would be caught dead acting like any of these characters. Ginny would probably be the most hated person in the class. Marcus, being the conventionally attractive guy he is, would definitely not be the “loner”.
@user-wc1ue6qe9v3 жыл бұрын
@@nativenewyorker3144 both ginny and max would be classified as the obnoxious kids no one likes
@fagioli70633 жыл бұрын
@@user-wc1ue6qe9v I feel like they'd use the word "normies" unironically
@WTHnada3 жыл бұрын
But it’s also a fictional show that’s supposed to teach lessons (based on how they presented themselves) so if these kids are 15, going through shit like that, they should show how they overcome it so the 15 year olds it’s targeted towards can learn something from it.
@amaliavillarreal13113 жыл бұрын
Joe was the hottie of the series. He is handsome, has a perfect beard, is caring, cool, he is such a catch, and the series insist in selling the bland oatmeal dude as the hottest.
@user-xb5bz4fu9o3 жыл бұрын
This show was trying to be Gilmore girls but failed in actually picking a niche (friendly small New England town with mother-daughter dynamics and commentary on the complexity of parenting), and grounding the silly story with really great dialogue
@cnstqnce28413 жыл бұрын
it's trying to be gilmore girls, pretty little liars and woke at the same time
@mrdad-zl9zl2 жыл бұрын
I was gonna say this looks like it's trying to be weird woke Gilmore girls. But that shows was amazing because the writing was amazing. This writing looks trash
@ashleyscameraroll33663 жыл бұрын
The show annoyed me quite a bit, especially that oppression olympics scene. Both hunter and Ginny are in the wrong, just because you like other foods and can’t speak the language doesn’t make you any less of that race and saying horrible stereotypes is absolutely horrible. There’s no excuse.
@isla52993 жыл бұрын
they didnt even say sorry
@pranathi1073 жыл бұрын
Hahahha "looks too emotionally unavailable to not be Ginny's boyfriend" 😅😂😂😂
@lilyseibert11383 жыл бұрын
Very glad you mentioned the absolutely terrible dialogue haha . . . like 90% of the lines were so far removed from the way people normally talk. And also the way they tried to take on a million serious topics without adequately addressing any of them, the way certain characters were one dimensional, and yeah you basically took the words out of my mouth with the rest of your analysis lol.
@Melissdan3 жыл бұрын
For older folks the neighbor is also in Twitches. She's one of the guardians for the Mowry twins
@carmen89703 жыл бұрын
omg thank you cause i’ve never watched shits creek
@sprinterCgirl163 жыл бұрын
I KNEW she looked familiar!!! Also now I’m “older folks” hahahaha fml 😅😂 great movie
@galacticgxts7293 жыл бұрын
SHEIEEJEB OH MY GOD SHE IS PLS I USED TO WATCH THAT MOVIE SO MUCH
@jamilabrownie3 жыл бұрын
Omg thanks lol I’m old now though
@cal_km6303 жыл бұрын
OMG YES I KNOW I KNEW HER
@reddithighlights1873 жыл бұрын
Marcus is a creep but also really funny and then I feel bad for him-? Idk
@samiacosta72753 жыл бұрын
At the end it's a mess, but I think that is a fun mess to watch.
@sir.cranberry97273 жыл бұрын
Your so funny on instagram I love current mood😏
@lujandiaz95613 жыл бұрын
I just finished this and I'm so mad so i have to put this out there. Ginny was unlikeable, they tried to make her the "not like other girls" so that's already tiring. She thought everything was about her, was mean to almost everyone. Also the fact that she couldn't talk things out but decided to hide everything and then say "I'm so sorry" and cry. Marcus was a douchebag, he sneaked into her room, had sex and the disappeared, but when Ginny started dating Hunter, he felt in love and jealous out of nowhere. So he's the average idiot. Hunter was cringy. Maxine was the worst, she was dumb, forced, tried to be quirky but it was just embarrassing, was mean to people like sam or marcus w/ no reason. Dramatic af, thought she was ginny's owner or some because of how she reacted to the fact of ginny not being a virgin and having sex w/ Marcus, like gurl is not a big deal, she can sleep w/ whoever she wants. Invalidated others feelings. She was just the most irritating character.
@kenhymarmitchel63682 жыл бұрын
Yes I felt like Max was doing too much at times. Though I understand her character and she is young, I still felt she was a bit much at times.
@maclobster_97693 жыл бұрын
Ginny complains: Me: I want to slap her in the face 🏃✨
@에리치-b7j3 жыл бұрын
a lot of the time some topics feel like they are there to just check a box of "how woke can we be"
@Rachel-ve8vw3 жыл бұрын
The whole show is just a big compilation of serious topics that didn’t work alongside each other. The two main themes, in my opinion (racial prejudice and self harm) were topics that needed their own show to be done justice. I’m white, so I can’t comment on the experiencing racial prejudice that the show explores. However, I self-harmed for a number of years, so I am at least equipped to comment on that. To put it bluntly, Ginny’s struggle with self harm is extremely romantized. Yes, it does provide relief, which I think is what the show was aiming to emphasise, but it isn’t sunshine and rainbows and relief when you self harm. It hurts a lot. I didn’t burn myself like Ginny does in the show, I cut myself, which is a whole lot messier than burning. Plus the thing where she just...lets Hunter undress her? Fair enough, scars are a lot more noticeable as self harm than burns are, but I wouldn’t let anyone look at me for months. I could say more about the topic, but I just think it was done poorly as really the issue needs it’s own show and not just to be a subplot in this one.
@isabel49983 жыл бұрын
The show could have been so much better if it wasn't for that cringy dialogue and representation of teens
@alexwinchester65843 жыл бұрын
The good thing about Ginny and Georgia is the fact that it shows that there is no such thing as good or bad person. Real people make mistakes, they are not perfect. I can't remember when was the last time I saw something like that in a show.
@ladytesha13 жыл бұрын
That's a good point, know one was perfect but Joe
@properapost69383 жыл бұрын
@@ladytesha1 Joe is best guy
@stinkbabo27903 жыл бұрын
Only thing I cared about is joe and Georgia relationship justice for joe 😔
@asiyyahmullen87773 жыл бұрын
justice for joe chain
@rabbitmil89083 жыл бұрын
joe and ellen are literally the best characters pls-
@eli58973 жыл бұрын
and georgia
@sir.cranberry97273 жыл бұрын
Joe Ellen Georgia Zion Maxine
@kayleemoon._60453 жыл бұрын
@@sir.cranberry9727 no no no, Maxine was annoying, rude, and a hot mess, she is definitely not as god tier as Georgia, Ellen, and joe
@pandahtoemateo33213 жыл бұрын
@@sir.cranberry9727 Nah, Maxine was borderline racist and toxic
@monicasania85393 жыл бұрын
@@sir.cranberry9727 Zion is an absent father no
@justabandloverx54943 жыл бұрын
Loved the video! And damn.. it's really messed up making Ginny talk about the Asian stereotypes as if it's supposed to be some kind of privilege for the Asian community.. The writers shouldn't have started comparing it with the black stereotypes in the first place, because they're both hurtful at the end of the day. Idk but as a black girl myself I would've loved it if they had shown solidarity (apart from a romantic relationship which didn't even last) between these two races struggling in society, instead of just showing (sadly more) division between them.. But guess that's too much to ask from Netflix's 'teen' shows these days.
@himynameissara19173 жыл бұрын
Georgia was AMAZING in this show
@lillian53533 жыл бұрын
I swear the whole oppression Olympics scene is gross. I'm fully black (Nigerian) so I don't know about being mixed. BUT, I have a very diverse friend group, and its not intentional. We're all white, black, asian, south east asian, etc. And yes, there are privileges that exist in the world that comes with the culture you're born into. But we don't let that ruin our friendship like what? We choose to rise above it, instead of acting trashy like Ginny tf?
@fatbitch71683 жыл бұрын
That's actually pretty great! Idk if you meant that culture thing as in "it happens everywhere", but yeah: it happens everywhere. Europe and white colonies are not the only places in which minorities might struggle. They are in fact the most open societies in the world, so it's kinda over the top to make it seem like hell for everyone but whites when (believe it or not) white people suffer from racism from certain groups too and that's everything but talked about in the media. Racism is not a white issue, it's a human issue. Anyone can be racist against anyone and anyone can suffer from racism from anyone
@fatbitch71683 жыл бұрын
@Gloriellee X everyone can be oppressed. Take a look at South Africa, Zimbabwe or Haiti where there was white genocide. Take a look at Europe and America where there are hate crimes against whites with no media coverage or any kind of support
@fatbitch71683 жыл бұрын
@Gloriellee X they do in non-white majority areas and mass media is 100% anti-white constantly demonizing us, blaming us for everyone's shortcomings and making us seem the worst threat to world peace on earth. Also when there are hate crimes committed against us there's zero media coverage or mass support as it happens to everyone but us, which is everything but being oppressed
@izukumidoriya74253 жыл бұрын
@Gloriellee X With this mindset that they can’t be oppressed, people feel it’s okay to attack or verbally attack them because “you can’t be racist to a white person” or “you can oppress the oppressor!”
@XTina_wolfhils3 жыл бұрын
Honestly this show is a mix between a acid trip and a 12 year old written Wattpad story. And a shitty one with after under tones 😬
@seina6593 жыл бұрын
Personally, I don’t think Hunter was trying to be offensive in their “oppression olympics” argument, although he did say some pretty hurtful things. It seemed to me like he was purposely using Ginny’s logic. Also, y’all may be right about how essays should be written in a certain format or whatever but even if that were true, it’s clear that the teacher is very racist and biased. There was definitely personal feelings in how he came to his decision.
@TheTasumiNagorashi3 жыл бұрын
100% agree
@monicasania85393 жыл бұрын
It was offensive. Just because you don’t have that intention does not make it any less racist/hurtful no matter how much you try to justify it
@seina6593 жыл бұрын
@@monicasania8539 I didn’t say it was not racist. In fact I even said that they were hurtful. I merely stated that Hunter was using Ginny’s logic against her periodt
@vivianavilchis31863 жыл бұрын
@@seina659 I think it was purposely racist and over stereotypical to show her how dumb she sounded
@seina6593 жыл бұрын
@@vivianavilchis3186 Agreed
@dragoneye025g63 жыл бұрын
Abby is the most realistic character yet
@eli58973 жыл бұрын
she’s annoying and mean asf tho
@Flocherryblossom3 жыл бұрын
Yesss Abby reminded me of people I knew at school
@monicasania85393 жыл бұрын
She’s racist bo
@unholybrat3 жыл бұрын
@@eli5897 a lot of high school girls are mean and annoying. awful person but pretty realistic.
@urfavsh1teditor6 ай бұрын
@unholybrat she was annoying but I wouldn't call her an awful person
@simplyghosted19263 жыл бұрын
As someone who is mixed. The show tried to show what it was like, and they definitely got some points. Like Ginny straightening her hair to fit in with the white kids. After COVID started and we were all quarantined, I spent 6 months of that quarantine trying to get my hair healthy again and finally embracing my curly hair…. But then I went back to school. I go to a predominantly white school in the south, so I mainly saw straight hair. I thought my hair looked messy and untamed, so I started straightening my hair again. So that is a very real struggle that me and many other biracial or curly headed ppl go through. And a more accurate way they could’ve shown how people may treat Ginny differently because she is biracial is by showing how a lot of times (idk if this is common in other places, but it is where I live) black people won’t think you’re back enough to date or be friends with, while white people will treat you like some sort of trophy or will straight up forget you’re mixed and will do like hella racist stuff around you. But some other points they could’ve put into the show, is gunny struggling with her culture. Especially since she is raised by a white mom, showing how biracial people can struggle with their culture would be really nice. I lived with the white side of my family until I was 8, and my black dad would send my white aunt money so she could go get someone to out braids in my hair, but she refused because she wanted me to be as white as possible, so even now, when I’m 15 years old, I’m too scared to ask my dad if I get braids or lay my edges. Especially with all the cultural appreciation arguments that have been going in recently. And one other struggle is other people trying to tell you what race you should identify as. One person is saying “if you look white, you need identify as white, if you look black, you need to identify as black” while someone else is saying “you can’t just pick and choose which race you want to identify as because then that means you’re only doing it for your own self gain” BUT THEN SOMEONE ELSE IS SAYING “you can’t identify as biracial because it’s technically not a race, so you have to choose one or the other”. And personally, I’ve been called a mixed breed and a half breed before so they could also put that in the show. This is all based off my personal experience, but I know a lot of biracial people face similar struggles.
@MyFiveCents3 жыл бұрын
Some belated timestamps and socials: 00:00 What's wrong with Ginny and Georgia? 00:17 Ginny and Georgia Taylor Swift controversy 00:31 "Oppression Olympics Let's Go" 00:55 Vulture article on Guy Fieri's Trash Can Nachos 01:05 A quick Ginny and Georgia recap 02:13 Ginny and Georgia characterization 03:15 Ginny's sweater - Easter egg 03:25 The biracial experience 04:59 Ginny & Georgia bad dialogue 05:29 Bad characterization - Max 06:12 Does Ginny have a personality? 06:43 Georgia's character development 08:05 Marcus and Ginny, who's nOt LiKe OtHeR gIrLs 08:45 Subverting a trope or inconsistent characterization? 10:05 Overall Ginny and Georgia analysis 10:54 Blacia was a prop 11:20 Who is Ginny and Georgia for? Just made socials! @myfivecents_ (IG, Twitter, TikTok)
@lovefromwonderland2 жыл бұрын
My biggest problem is the two main characters themselves. Ginny is just awful to her mother. As a black fifteen year old girl myself and having grown up with a 56 year old Christian mother and being married to her husband for almost thirty years, I’d kill for a mother like Georgia. Georgia always tells it like it is. She doesn’t sugarcoat everything, but she does encourage and support her children, even going the unconventional route of being a mother (letting Austin punch his bully in the face, how cathartic). She’s even open about things my mother barely talks about, like sex. Ginny doesn’t give a damn, though. She’s jealous and needy and it shows whenever she talks to her mother. She’s disrespectful, rude, inconsiderate, and clearly doesn’t care about her mother’s happiness. I despise girls and boys who treat their moms with contempt.
@Ella-px1xw3 жыл бұрын
Netflix has a pattern of hiring mixed women to play black characters while ignoring the fact they’re white passing. So I’m glad they have a mixed character that doesn’t talk about black issues that sound completely tone deaf as if she is oppressed the same way full black people are.
@blessednotstressed27393 жыл бұрын
I think the oppression Olympic scene was effective for bringing up the relationship between different people of color because usually on tv if that’s brought up it’s black vs white. Even if it is surface level it may start a conversation
@nelsondendomo66873 жыл бұрын
POC don’t fight about who’s more oppressed though, like whyyy?
@nelsondendomo66873 жыл бұрын
@@itszyou7528 bruh, I’ve never seen it. And it’s just a dumb argument to have tbh
@blessednotstressed27393 жыл бұрын
@@nelsondendomo6687 they definitely do especially on social media.
@fatbitch71683 жыл бұрын
Finally someone noticed xd imagine if they were to show non-whites being racist and violent against whites. It happens all the time in Africa, Europe and horrible America but it's everything but told to the general public. I think all races deserve the same level of respect and safety, not only blacks or non-whites. Racism is a human issue, not a white issue. Media demonizes whites 24/7 but you can't even dream about having diversity in the Middle East or Asia and that alone speaks tons about who's the least racist group.
@twinkles1903 жыл бұрын
@@fatbitch7168 tbf, white or black actors in Asian countries are borderline none-existant. saying more diversity to them is a really difficult if there is no actors to chose from. Not saying they would chose actors of different race if they had them, but we don't really know, because they don't have the possibility.
@jamonturner95833 жыл бұрын
As a biracial person who went to a predominantly white school. This show was hot garbage.
@lineagewarrior73783 жыл бұрын
I don’t know what the writers were on, but they really left out nuance, sophistication and class with mixed raced issues.
@haileyreynolds83853 жыл бұрын
The Oppression Olympics caused me to die from second hand embarrassment, come back to life, and then die again.
@mj-84893 жыл бұрын
People's views on Ginny are short sighted. We're meant to hate her for now so we can watch her grow later. Her problems & mindset are presented as petty & angsty and she slowly gets more serious and less naive as she learns her mother's past & face family issues, by the end of the season it's clear that shes gonna endure major character development by s2.
@wolvesofabyss82353 жыл бұрын
OK I agree with the part that ginny was terrible, but the way Georgia was handling their life wasn't the best either. I didn't finish the series but I didn't have the motivation or the thrill to do so.
@jannapatty29583 жыл бұрын
Georgia and joe were good and they deserved a different show without these clowns so basically the end.
@myatowavyy99293 жыл бұрын
The oppression olympics made me lose brain cells, she said he not Asian enough and eat cheeseburgers and he said homie and said Brody twerks better than her 😭😭😭
@primrosemunro11433 жыл бұрын
Tbh I get why Taylor swift spoke out... it was a poor and sexist joke that men have used to belittle her throughout her career
@minabajunovic72973 жыл бұрын
This video was awesome you are so pretty and this was so entertaining!! how do you not have more followers
@MyFiveCents3 жыл бұрын
Aw, thank you so much! I really appreciate the comment and I'm glad you enjoyed the video
@s.e48863 жыл бұрын
I watched a compilation and I was like. What is this???????????? I could not get everyone’s love for it
@sofi23283 жыл бұрын
There's so many subplots that they dropped halfway that makes the show 10000x worse
@bbuuttercupp3 жыл бұрын
8:58 pilot????? this all happens in the PILOT? Can someone fucking confirm? I was convinced you were telling us the gist of the first SEASON not the fucking pilot like??? This is stuffed full
@zoesnellings31823 жыл бұрын
i think that padma, joe, and austin were all very ignored who had good personalities and characters. like joe’s only plot line is liking georgia :/
@journeyyrich3 жыл бұрын
its mind boggling that the entire cast and production team looked back over the line "oppression olympics, let's go" and thought it was a good idea
@irini033 жыл бұрын
This show is so bad my mom and I binged the whole thing in one day, I’m OBSESSED
@michalina_peek5573 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about Georgia? Everyone is insulting Ginny, but the real villain of this show is georgia, who comitted a murder, blackmailed random guy and abused child, it's not savage, but psychotic, not to mention all the traumas she caused to her children. This show tries to be gilmore girls but it's not. Also; marcus is even worse, don't make excuses just because he is good-loking
@magicalwatermelon51473 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Like, Ginny is a teenager with an unstable home life. Georgia is an adult who *murdered* people. But apparently Ginny’s behavior is completely unforgivable?!
@ladytesha13 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness some one said it. Everyone coming for a Teenager that's being a teen and not the adult that has done so much worse . It doesn't make sense to me
@ladytesha13 жыл бұрын
@@magicalwatermelon5147 But georgia raised this girl . Into what is is
@bellascerpe9333 жыл бұрын
2:59 She's also in the first Twitches movie (Illeana) and it was bothering me for so long because I could not for the life of me figure out where I'd seen her before
@myatowavyy99293 жыл бұрын
Max was too pushy, she forced Ginny to date Hunter without asking if her so called “new bestfriend” like anyone else, Hunter’s character was so unrealistic no teen say the things he said 😭😭😭