Girlfriend of Death Row Inmate-Ivana

[@alaskancat]

It’s a safe relationship for her. He can’t hit her, can’t really hurt her, she always knows where he is… Not saying this is right, but as an adult child of a violent alcoholic, I get it.

[@robzombieisvegan]

So true. Never thought of it like that.

[@lifeslices2228]

Thank you for this explanation. It's helpful in understanding what on the surface seems inexplicable.

[@KingManther]

Bingo

[@kesss97d]

Same

[@nichellehowell]

I know a man that only dates incarcerated women so that he can control them......

[@jameshoopes6467]

Context: Her “boyfriend” killed 31 year old officer William Toney. (Officer Toney’s 32nd birthday was the following day.) He had 2 daughters, who were 4 years old and 18 months old at the time of his death. Her “boyfriend” called his wife a b*tch during sentencing and laughed. He had prior convictions and was on probation for burglary at the time of his murder of the officer. I thought it worth mentioning this additional information.

[@Simmyfso]

Free him

[@johnrogers1251]

Meanwhile, voters continue to vote Democrat. Folks, do the right thing and vote Republican from now until forever.

[@excession30]

If you want high gun homicide rates where you live, by all means vote Republican.@@johnrogers1251

[@betsybaye4951]

Not voting for a s** offender, failed business person, (casino's really??), insurrectionist. This channel is not about that. It's about educating people about different lifestyles. It's a place where Mark can show us how other people live and learn about life. This is NOT a political channel. @@johnrogers1251

[@YvonneMelvin]

Thank you

[@Quantumfluxfield]

You see someone who murdered someone in a documentary and you write him a letter, end up visting him and fall in love? Hmm

[@wesleyAlan9179]

Yeah, it's a pretty wild thing, isn't it?

[@acstarr6609]

Apprently its a thing, women falling for convicted criminals.

[@dubaiedge]

​@@acstarr6609the female equivalent to the male "I can fix her."

[@jadedmonk7001]

Where are you K. Sweat? Cuz this 💩is definitely twisted...😅

[@futuregirl8803]

Some people have dark fantasies

[@Cspspack]

This woman was raised on high adrenaline and in survival mode. Her trauma brain kept that going. She used forgiveness as a coping mechanism to survive her father who in turn put her on a pedestal. She just continued that mode. She can’t feel love unless she gets the monster to love her.

[@rayannaandrade6337]

That is a really interesting take and that feeling she must’ve got when her daddy from prison acknowledge her when she was little ..must give her the same feeling dating a guy on death Row as an adult now. Psychology is such a bizarre thing.

[@sazziestar202]

Totally agree with this sentiment

[@katarinahinsey3931]

Great comment. I have this problem as well but it's really difficult to consciously understand what the reasons are.

[@MikeJensen-w2v]

a girl like her had many chances to go on the good path but as always when something bad happens to a pretty girl we infantilize her and make her a victim always smh

[@charleemageno585]

BINGO

[@BelleTolles]

People are so harsh, not sure why. I found her heartbreaking. She is very lost and obviously traumatized at some deep level and deeply depressed. I hope she can get some help, some therapy, so that she can find some happiness with her daughter

[@rdw2457]

YES

[@Alexandria250]

The energy emitting off her is deeply sad.

[@09artgirl]

Yes! Why are people so judgmental of her? This girl is deeply emotionally damaged by her violent childhood and so in her needy, traumatized mindset she reaches out to a man for love, another "misfit" like herself who can never hurt her like her dad did her mom because he's behind bars. I understand her subconscious twisted logic.

[@Error_404_Account_Deleted]

Harsh? Harsh is what happened to the wife and kids of the police officer. Get over yourself

[@lefeuviolet]

Me too ❤

[@1deplatt]

These woman who love these killers are pretty emotionally disturbed. Abused themselves, they need a lot of therapy.

[@TruthTeller-ez7ev]

Alot of therapists will only validate her and will only push her deeper into this self deprication.

[@mwheeler82]

@@TruthTeller-ez7ev 100% true

[@Chungalhunga]

@@TruthTeller-ez7ev Why would therapists push people deeper into self depreciation? It doesn't make sense to me but i'm no professional in this field of science. Where i live too many do fast courses and don't undergo therapy themselves, some are in more troubles than their clients. I'm not saying most of them are bad, not at all.

[@okkid1949]

They want to make you feel better but stay screwed up. A patient for life.

[@tpkdm71]

@@TruthTeller-ez7evTotal claptrap!

[@chiefcantseesogood520]

"My Dad was not a good person" and "He was in prison a lot." There it is. I was waiting for that from the beginning of the video, and she got there quickly. Cycle continues. Break him out in a helicopter, though? That is verging on delusional.

[@LoyalAsst]

And then she wanted to die with him. 🤦

[@rachbell8915]

actually....

[@dubaiedge]

Not verging, is 😂

[@helenbartoszek243]

This happened in Australia. A female prison officer fell in love with a prisoner. She hired a helicopter and they made their escape and were on the run for awhile before being caught.

[@donacatanguma]

Yes, it was obvious from the start of her interview. Her father brought nothing but addiction, violence, and chaos to the family. She’s obviously a victim of intergenerational trauma and it’s a healthy start that she’s capable of recognizing this. She most likely felt a strong affinity with her boyfriend’s story and trauma bonded with him. And at the same time, he was a safe male who couldn’t hurt her by virtue of being locked up. The helicopter escape scenario is more common than generally known. Prisons have even put up wire mesh, and cables over courtyards to prevent this from happening. I hope she continues with her therapy and eventually finds a healthy relationship, with the love that she and her daughter deserve. She seems like a sincere and empathic person. Much love to her and her daughter. She’s much stronger and more beautiful than she realizes. ❤️☀️

[@S_J_banana]

Do yourself a favour and watch it on 1.5 speed 😂

[@Firode9856]

1.75 for me and still boring😂

[@lukmajew]

I'll better go with x1,75 ;)

[@janetwentz3259]

Thank you, I did and it helped a bunch 😊

[@robyn_byrd]

Made all the difference!🙌🏾

[@Scuba_Bro]

Wow that actually helped! 😂

[@melindamckenzie-nq6yq]

The fact that she thought she was going to be able to hijack a helicopter and break someone out of death row is unbelievable. I hope she gets the therapy she desperately needs.

[@celticwarrior777]

😂😂😂🎉

[@Xojackiejones]

I was casually listening as background noise, until she mentioned that and I had to do a double take listen!! 👀

[@grayh7529]

Crazy yes, but it has been done before. I suggest searching John Killick and Lucy Dudko, Australia. 1999 prison escape.

[@michaelc3977]

And then later asks, 'What does hijack mean again?'

[@JessicaMarie5184]

It's her question "what is hijacking?" A good while after that part.... Makes me sad for her.

[@shameronstar7220]

It's almost like she's trapped in a prison of her own inside her own mind. I think that's more relatable than people want to admit.

[@annkleindl3561]

I would hate for the officer's family to see this.

[@marysunshine5587]

me too

[@wildwildItaly]

That's what I thought too

[@tinam761]

They probably stay away from this kind of stuff… headlines etc

[@RebeccaAntonucci-sd3hp]

Agreed

[@JessicaMarie5184]

Why. She was not the killer. She is a woman with emotions. We could get into discussion about loving someone with a dangerous job, choosing to chase criminals with thier pregnant wife, kids at home. We make our own choices. No one can blame anyone for doing what the heart is intended to do.

[@javidallas4113]

I tell you being a Victim is one hell of a drug 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@AnaFernandez-jp5uh]

That's why therapy is so important. It takes you from being a victim to being a survivor.

[@Oh2x]

@@AnaFernandez-jp5uh his point is that it wasnt a big deal

[@wesleyAlan9179]

​@@AnaFernandez-jp5uh Seriously speaking, yes, you're absolutely correct.

[@SallyRoach-rc7xe]

As is being the rescuer!

[@marysunshine5587]

I want to judge her for being such a bimbo but I wont

[@danaferguson462]

There is nothing romantic about not being loved in return. He murdered an officer, a father with children. It's really messed up.

[@leneo1731]

Did she say she wasn't loved back or in return?

[@leneo1731]

I also don't understand the connection between you saying she's not being loved in return and his crimes. I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.

[@rorosanchez1538]

​@@Danno.Kidding? There are more dunces wanting to MARRY serial killers. Charles Manson had a lot of female wannabe wives. She's young and pretty wasting her time. I hope she gets help cuz this is crazy. Probably sends him commissary items along with $$.

[@whoknowswhocares885]

It’s that very stupid attraction to bad boys where the woman is basically stuck in the romantic delusion of “I can fix him”

[@klokokloko-kq1ss]

cops murder people everyday in USA...whats new?

[@Alexxx492]

Why are people on death row allowed to have their girlfriends visit them all day? The late police officer's wife doesn't get to visit him 😢

[@lisaheltonhudson]

Amen 😢 @Bae23745

[@OL_BK11]

Agree. No sex for you!!!

[@shameronstar7220]

Of course she can visit him. The cemetery is right up the road buddy. lol

[@wolf4076]

Thats not funny. @@shameronstar7220

[@fjaaaka]

@@shameronstar7220bro that comment is wild

[@erikamendoza331]

She grew up with a father that treated her family horribly but was always nice to her. I understand her attractions. A tragedy indeed. Best wishes Ivana, I hope your driving force in life continues to be giving your daughter truly the life she deserves. You are correct, it's not about what you want. It's about what she needs. Thank you Mark,great interview.

[@kb-vw9ix]

Sad and weird….

[@Chungalhunga]

Bosnia had long, brutal war with ethnic cleansing, the capital Sarajevo was under siege for three or four years. People have unimaginable traumas because of that.

[@marysunshine5587]

shes weird

[@Chungalhunga]

@@marysunshine5587 She is weird, no doubt about it. Years back when i was twenty, refugee with bad PTSD caused by Yugoslav wars no one told me about attacked me. He got up in the middle of night when i was sleeping, jumped on my bed for no reason, put military knife for close quarter combat on my chest and started threatening to kill me for 10-20 minutes, crying what they did to his family, got anrgy again and so on. I was lucky owner of the house was female who managed to calm him down, if she wasn't at home i probably wouldn't be here. Beside having PTSD, he was a hard working man like vast majority of refugees from Yugoslav wars. I believe they integrated into society because we considered them brothers from country where we used to live together in peace since wwii.

[@liznicholas922]

Speechless ...

[@hungariancottageadventure77]

yes

[@ghostlyjudge]

love is love i guess but uhhh how the fuck am i still single men in prison are getting dates from people overseas and i cant get a date in my own cityshit is crazy

[@John_R_Jackson_III]

Probably not that guy at the moment. Work on yourself and they will come automatically. Good luck

[@PandaHead602]

Me too 37 no husband

[@Viper01010]

Because Girls are attracted to bad boys and criminals

[@thongdykhamta7382]

Green card and no fing

[@davidrichards4758]

⁠@@John_R_Jackson_III Be clean & shaven , have a decent car , dress good , work out but not a meat head . Have a job or some money to take them out , and finally a pad. it don’t have to be big . But decent pad , or move in with a friend with a better place . Car optional depends on where you live . You’ll see they will find you , be confident . if you try keep trying practice make perfect 👍 friendly advice !! You don’t need luck !!!!

[@John_R_Jackson_III]

6:08 Do you feel he was misunderstood? Yeah. Dude shot a man 5 times killing him now that man leaves behind a wife and two daughters. Definitely misunderstood

[@D.H.-mg2cz]

That's what such dudes tell women all the time: "You're the first, the only person who understands me." P. S. Hitchhike a helicopter for my escape 🤦‍♀️

[@theawesomest2850]

@@VintageVegansyeah cause he built a successful KZbin channel by being a terrible interviewer

[@leneo1731]

​@@VintageVegansWhy do you say that?

[@tomdonahue4224]

@@VintageVegans Can't wait to watch your KZbin channel

[@luvyatubers]

Message to all women: you harm yourself hunting down a partner who makes u feel like the only woman in the world. Are you? No. Fantasies are often hoaxes. Prisoners have lots of x to perfect love bombing the delusional needy woman. Your children suffer while you play act out your faux dreamy life. You are being conned. Love yourself first. And study figuring out if love at you is real or a con. If it's a con, no big deal, cuz ur #1 lover is YOU!

[@heidihesketh3927]

"He passed away". The officer. I think she meant murdered. 😢

[@pennyp7382]

She called his wife a bitch for advocating a death sentence for him.

[@NatalieDuby]

Murdered or not, it still can be referred to as "passing away".

[@babygayle6842]

Well Benjamin didn’t intentionally kill the officer. He fired shots over his shoulder. One bullet hit the half inch above his bullet proof vest. He didn’t intend to kill him.

[@finlanddoesnotexist92]

@@babygayle6842 Doesn't matter.

[@celestialcircledance]

A tragic thing for a beautiful woman to waste her youth on but she doesn't strike me as very grounded in reality ..

[@lisalancework7999]

It could just be because she's had such a hard life but I don't think she looks 31 or 32 based on Marks close up and even her hands look more like she's in her 40s which it doesn't matter but I was just commenting based on the "wasting her youth comment"

[@irinapavlovna3115]

@@lisalancework7999jealousy isn’t a way to go… But you definitely have a right to be jealous though…

[@lisalancework7999]

@@irinapavlovna3115 so if you see a stranger and just think to yourself, oh they're probably X and such age", that means one is jealous? That logic escapes me. Sometimes unexpectedly, comment responses open up insights into the psyche of the author.

[@lisalancework7999]

@@irinapavlovna3115 many here have expressed the same - this means we all are jealous? Ok then 🤔 btw i looked at your profile and you however do look young -my mom was from Russia btw

[@irinapavlovna3115]

@@lisalancework7999 Yes, people in the comments often are mean. Period.

[@AnaFernandez-jp5uh]

Ivana is in need of intense therapy. Her escape plan to break Benjamin out of prison would be hysterical if she weren't serious. She appears to be suffering from depression as she is devoid of happiness throughout this interview. She is emotionally chained to another dysfunctional human. This is undoubtedly a WTF type of interview. Mark, this is definitely different for SWU.

[@tiredofthebs8290]

She said she had not slept for two days while traveling to LA for the interview. She also said she very nervous and stressed which can cause her to disassociate to a degree. She is currently in therapy. As someone who suffers from chronic depression myself I would agree that she may also suffer from it. More than anything, I hope she continues to work on her self esteem and learns that she deserves so much better.

[@sjtdxitditsitdurzirxur5926]

​@@tiredofthebs8290How do you know this?

[@rachbell8915]

actually.....

[@Jesse__H]

She seems part of the soft white underbelly to me...

[@valeriemishldavis183]

THIS is just as common 🤌🏻

[@user-ez2zl5kw9v]

It’s not love, its not about the guy. it’s pure self destruction.

[@wildwildItaly]

And having the chance to live in America

[@wolfe6220]

​@@wildwildItaly 😂 America is a 3rd world country compared to Sweden.

[@luvyatubers]

Based on how he makes her feel. Inmates have lots of time to watch Disney movies and read romance books to con women. She is too dumb. Can't stand it

[@kimthompson3846]

​@@wildwildItaly There's some sort of weird thing with these women. Gacy had all kinds of girlfriends in prison, as does Drew Peterson and the Menendez brothers (didn't one of them get married in prison?).

[@Litigator-4-life]

You don't have to expend much energy or truly invest your deepest commitment or love. You don't have to do his laundry, cook his eggs just right, pick up his stuff he scatters around the house, put the toilet seat down, ask him to shave, worry about the hours you work, fight about funding the retirement accounts, ask him to have your oil changed and your tires rotated...you could talk about art and music and ethics and religion and the meaning of life...and the drudge of the daily grind would not have to intrude.

[@jackandlill]

Like others have mentioned, I was waiting for her to share who, in her life, had been in prison... Also, I think it is a comfort to some women who need constant reassurance of their man loving them & being interested in them & not having to question the committment of their partner! The man who is a convict is a captive audience! I am sorry for the police officer's wife & children.

[@esrealwilleatit8574]

Can you imagine how horrible her life must have been? When Mark asked “was that the happiest time in your life” about talking to the guy on the cell phone, she responded “yes” poor poor girl.

[@NyxxNoire]

THIS❤

[@margusmees5720]

It's crazy how she sounds perectly normal with 1.75 speed......

[@mepayne651]

Drugs

[@angelinaondair2573]

She's definitely not sober. Her breathing and mouth sounds are indicative of drug use also. She's high

[@temitayoabodunde9944]

It was a struggle to watch honestly

[@libbyreed8588]

I did 150 speed and it was a struggle.

[@jessd423]

She sounds really messed up at 0.5 speed 😂

[@elainefranco725]

There is a documentary about this inmate. He is a real jerk.

[@tiredofthebs8290]

Do you know where it can be found or what it's called?

[@ariaaa_g]

and I guess that's the documentary she watched and it made her fall in love with that savage

[@elainefranco725]

It is called. Indiana Death Row...(Something like that) The host is . Sir Trevor McDonald. He is amazing... On You Tube

[@emilymccartney1593]

@@elainefranco725 Will be watching it after this . If I make it through this whole video 😴

[@emilymccartney1593]

@@elainefranco725 Thanks, will for it.

[@user-ez2zl5kw9v]

her dad was in prison. And oh Look, she is falling in love with an inmate. Daddy issues, obviously

[@AnnaXefta]

Oh. Ur sooo smart. U must watch a lot of t.v. lol

[@Trys_Kapeikos]

Its just how she understands love. Love in her family was associated with violance, distance (mom working long hours, dad nit being home much). Her partner is distant and violent - this is love for her, this is what she knows as comfort and safety.

[@gossamer9966]

A touch of hybristophilia as well, yikes.

[@rachbell8915]

all of you just let the lady speak. it's the other golden rule. i feel like i just ate cardboard down here.

[@user-ez2zl5kw9v]

@@AnnaXeftabut these things matter. It defines what love is for you what partner is “normal” for you

[@teedee1170]

Trauma attracts trauma 😞

[@lisaheltonhudson]

Now THAT is a great phrase and SO POINT ON!

[@donnastehr5858]

As much as it disgusts me that these violent criminals have women who admire them and fall in love with them,it is easy to see how broken and traumatized this woman is.She might not have been beaten by her father,but seeing her mother and siblings beaten,growing up in a violent home and walking on eggshells,knowing it’s just a matter of time until all hell breaks loose,changes a child’s brain. Despite being a physically beautiful woman who probably could have done very well in life,it’s easy to see that she doesn’t even feel that life is worth living.She might still be able to turn things around and break the cycle for her daughter if she could get into some intense therapy. I wonder if she would be open to it?

[@Anonymous-9og]

Her love was that strong for him? More like her lack of self-love was that strong...

[@jorel6745]

It all made sense when she said opioids.

[@No_Hookshot]

She's obviously strung out. Her teeth tells me most likely on harder stuff. To be able to travel back and forth from Sweden multiple times just for visits also tells me she's got money. Would not be surprised if she's in the 'adult' industry as well. Obviously making great choices in her personal life if she's choosing to dedicate herself to a convicted killer with Nazi neck tattoos.

[@gerardobrown5967]

Word 🙉🙈🙉🙈🙉🙈👍🏼

[@LimoneneDaddy]

For sure 😂😅

[@bonniebestler-dagen9534]

I knew she was on downers of some sort

[@topfloorroom429]

How's that ? Does she look like a dope head ?I thought she looked pretty sad myself, but idk ? It's sad, really, coming here from Sweden, Bosnia, Ukraine, wherever she was from... To come here for a man with a life sentence hanging over his head, talk about dedication... Do you know anyone,, honestly, who's that dedicated ? I don't, except for my family... Idk. Hopefully, she will find her way to some peace & happiness...

[@Firode9856]

She thinks he’s misunderstood😂She needs help with her mental health.

[@ivanagorgi]

I have been missunderstood my whole life but unfortunately I did not talk about that bcs I had a hard trip to LA, and it exhousted me with no sleep for two nights and when I was suppose to do the interview I dissociated a lot and I wasn't there in the moment. That's what usually happens when I'm stressed out. I do have help with my mental health. I first did a cold turkey like I said but relapsed many times and then I got on methadone. And ha been on it until this day. But I will add more context to my life story to those who care to know. Thank you for you comment!

[@tiredofthebs8290]

​@@ivanagorgi From one woman to another, you are such a beautiful person and could truly have any man you want. You don't need to settle for a murderer (a murderer who laughed at his victim's family and their pain) who will ultimately die in prison. Your daughter (Iris is such a beautiful name), will watch you and learn from you about relationships and how men and women should treat each other. Please don't teach her that being with a murderer is ok. Work on stopping the generational trauma so that she doesn't also live with it. Give yourself your power back so that you and Iris accept nothing but the best for your lives. Wishing you nothing but the best for you and your daughter moving forward. 🙏♥️🙏

[@ivanagorgi]

@@tiredofthebs8290 thank you so much for your comment and sweet words. Truly means a lot!

[@tiredofthebs8290]

@@ivanagorgi You are so welcome! 🤗

[@fifilamoore1718]

@@tiredofthebs8290Beautifully written and said, and totally 💯 stop the generational trauma 🥹🫶🏻🥰Fifi

[@ericaknesek3266]

Women like her ( trying not to judge ) prefer these relationships they have all the control without the intimacy that goes along with the relationship and the woman gets all the attention and prisoners don’t go anywhere hence her childhood

[@pkae85]

I never considered this .good point!

[@GeorginaJett]

Exactly 💯

[@marysunshine5587]

something abut her is really annoying

[@travis4976]

​@marysunshine5587 yeah she's retarded.

[@Liz-uj2ot]

@@rickydelahaba1936 r u 4 real?

[@teresabarrett3266]

She’s got such sadness in her eyes. I wish for her the best possible outcome.

[@Echo-o-o]

Yes. Deep sorrow in her eyes. Pure melancholy.

[@joseromeudeabreu9999]

Agreed. Cape Town South Africa. 🇿🇦🍷

[@shaunakai6798]

I definitely feel she suffers from depression. Wanting to die with your lover is a pretty good sign of that. Listening to her childhood story, it seems she came from dysfunction and a lack of love. It makes sense she would want love from anyone, including a death row inmate. Glad she is sober! Hopefully better days to come for her.

[@CE-jl1lv]

There is NO WAY this girl is sober

[@ericaknesek3266]

This is what trauma in childhood does to adults they look for the exact representation of the parent

[@fleurcoremans9828]

Exactly....

[@Emzzz78]

Amen!

[@stonedpimpdaddy]

B.S.

[@marthahunn4707]

She is a deeply wounded person due to trauma.

[@bkind1144]

Boom !! Exactly ...that's what I did...love & friends.. No trust or interest in being used anymore. Until Internet had no idea of what I had been doing. Now happy living life with my son & grandchildren.

[@Amp_Edition]

You have to be desperate to travel from another country to get involved with an inmate. Seriously, no man in all of Sweden that you liked?

[@sophiegolden]

She has better plans to stay in USA, and find a stupid rich man... People are so naive on this channel, come on

[@craigslist6988]

I mean.. do you know anyone you think would have even a passing curiosity in her? Maybe in Sweden even the criminals are smart enough not to go near that. So yeah she might have had to come here for our specialty brand of extra ignorant people who won't see the chinese parade of red flags behind her...

[@chrisepps6902]

Trauma, dumbass

[@lisafrederick8870]

Mentally ill,not desperate.... definitely Mentally ill

[@MrLenroc82]

Uhhhhh.....citizenship

[@RosiG73]

She likes how kind he is? Maybe ask his victim’s family about his kindness.

[@anzelatoleikyte2083]

Who are you to judge her?

[@maryl234]

please - everyone judges and if you think you don't you're insane@@anzelatoleikyte2083

[@VampliFyer]

@RosiG73 yeah, that killer kindness that's oh-so irresistible...🙄🙄

[@rdw2457]

Psychopaths can be some of the best shapeshifters you’ve ever seen. So many “normal” people have fallen prey.

[@RosiG73]

@@anzelatoleikyte2083 Who am I? I’m a person with a functioning moral compass. Perhaps you should ask the family of the murdered police officer their thoughts on her.

[@elizabethroberts8588]

The happiest she’s ever been was getting to talk to him 24/7 cause he had a cell phone … not the birth of her child or spending time with her child, it was talking to a disgusting murderer on death row 🤦‍♀️ I just can’t with this woman

[@Calverts399]

She seems soooo depressed and sad. For her childs sake plz get therapy so you dont make your daughter sad too.

[@boujeepistola2113]

If daddy issues had a poster child

[@thejojojo1111]

Not accurate. It's due to her family and society causing all of her childhood violence and trauma. YOUR trauma caused YOU to be an a///ssssshat.

[@danaferguson462]

I looked Him up He's still currently on death row in Indiana. Benjamin Ritchie.

[@jamesanderson3537]

Obviously it takes 20 plus years to be executed with lack of the drugs .He's never getting out.

[@oriondezine5879]

You can watch the documentary she’s talking about. He’s not getting off. I can’t believe someone who see that and think “oh I want to be with him.” She’s sick.

[@tiredofthebs8290]

@@oriondezine5879 Do you know where I could find the documentary and what it's called?

[@ariaaa_g]

@@oriondezine5879what's the name of the documentary?

[@oriondezine5879]

@@ariaaa_g Inside Death Row with Trevor McDonald or something along this lines. He gets a ton of screen time. The officers wife came out and made a statement after it was made. I remember watching it and thinking what kind of a woman would go out of her way to be with a guy like this? Now we all know.

[@nickellereagle4337]

Thank you for being so vulnerable Ivana and sharing your story, you’re so beautiful! If you haven’t been told lately, I am proud of you for getting clean and staying clean. As for some of the comments, I don’t think people realize how many relationships/marriages start in prison. Remember they have nothing to do but write amazing sweet letters. 😊

[@socal-rw9un]

2 girls who will never have a their dad at their graduation, or walk them down the aisle & they & their mom will never even hug him again. So many nights they cried themselves to sleep.

[@ninagonzales4330]

You can see the hurt through her eyes… I pray she finds happiness ❤

[@L1amMM2]

This relationship is sick.

[@cdb7876]

I felt Mark missed asking a lot of relevant questions during this interview. Who is the father of her daughter? What surgery did she have that provided enough pain pills to develop a drug habit? Does she currently live in the US? Or did she fly from Sweden to do this vague interview? How come she can't find another companion? How is she financially supporting her daughter and herself? How come she doesn't know her age? This could have been a much better video.

[@RoosterNutz12]

We all know how she's making money.

[@ariaaa_g]

So many good questions missed, sad

[@TheScotian82]

Fair!

[@Sunnybrook-69]

Maybe I missed something and if I did I am sorry. If she is dating him, visited him multiple times, came here to be with him and loves him enough to plan a break out of prison.... How can she sit there and say she has no idea where he is, if he is still alive, etc. I must have missed a big part of this while I spaced out from boredom.

[@sadiestoltzfus9798]

What a crock of S#%^ this story is. And Ivana Swedish yeah right.

[@francoisec2185]

Poor crazy girl : completely nuts !

[@TubingYoutube-i2d]

Haha so well said mate #PMSL>

[@MAT6864027]

Pretty European girl and the men on the outside probably see that she got issues so she finds a man in prison and spends her own money to fly to see a man who will eventually get killed for killing a police officer. She definitely got issues.

[@wolfe6220]

Completely traumatized by her father in childhood and it's twisted her perception and values. Happened to me and I chose the wrong guys. Divorced 10 years ago, tons of therapy, single and never want to get into another relationship.

[@MJ-ge6jz]

I met two females who dated men in prison. There is a certain psychology at play which I don't fully understand with this attraction. It must be wanting something they can never fully have. Later her love got out of prison and started living with her. She eventually kicked him out of her life. What a crazy world we live in.

[@firazeli]

Here's what's wrong with our society. That her boyfriend is still alive 24 years later.

[@janleslie7163]

Exactly 💯

[@shameronstar7220]

There's A LOT wrong actually.

[@eastafricanqueen9866]

She is unhinged

[@RoosterNutz12]

Borderline personality disorder.

[@marysunshine5587]

totally

[@keeper6458]

Fr

[@lucadia7554]

Stealing a helicopter mmmmmkay

[@WendyP1965]

Totally unhinged! She's willing to die with him despite having a child!! One sick puppy!!

[@Nobodysbby]

Sounds like her father is a narcissist, & she was the "golden child"... When she said she felt very similar to her boyfriend on death row I felt what she meant. When I dated a monster I felt like we had so much in common. We both would find it odd how much we had in common, in weird things, not like favorite movies or colors, but more unique things that made us who we were. That was the hardest person for me to let go of. As an empath, perhaps she is one too, you are able to pity narcissists, you had family members you can't help but love .. Sometimes we meet broken people like ourselves. Maybe they are monsters or maybe they are just lost like we are. But we always see the good in them. Even when they hurt us. It is empathy you cannot help but feel. Even if you want to hate that person, part of you pities them.

[@Nobodysbby]

Or she may herself have anti social personality disorder & related to him on that level. I notice she lacks eye contact a lot, I feel like she's got a big wall up to hide her tears/emotions

[@heatherasmussen1421]

I found it extremely difficult to listen to this interview because of her extreme delay in answering questions. Is she on something.

[@GhostGreen-b6m]

Everyone is an empath these day's 😆

[@tiredofthebs8290]

@@heatherasmussen1421 She hadn't slept for two days due to travelling to LA for the interview. I think she was also very nervous in addition to being exhausted.

[@ariaaa_g]

@@Nobodysbbyshe definitely has a personality disorder, but not aspd. She's clearly dissociating/possibly high that's why no eye contact. Arm chair diagnosing somebody with aspd is crazy work

[@Crystal-qc6tu]

My father was on Death Row for many years. I can't imagine being in a relationship with someone like that. What kind of love can you get from that!? I had a rough life and Daddy issues too but shes gotta have another reason, sorry...

[@tiredofthebs8290]

I'm sorry for what you have been through and for the loss? of your Dad. I can't imagine. 🙏♥️

[@Jdawn92]

Did you choose to stay single

[@brah04X]

People internalize events so differently. One sibling can get PTSD and the rest of them be fine.

[@jennifergannuscio6086]

HUGS!🌹

[@Crystal-qc6tu]

@@jennifergannuscio6086 Thank you❤️

[@Beeceelee]

Someone suggested watching at 1.5 speed...HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!!!!!!!!!!!

[@snaddy]

I feel for Ivana. I cannot wrap my head around her decisions but she never knew what functional love and stability looks like. I hope she gets the help she needs and love she deserves. If anything is clear from SWU is that the majority of all dysfunctional people are because of their childhood and circumstances. We can’t choose that. Instead of moralizing we could extend empathy and hope for transformative recovery. And keep creating the mechanisms and vision to do so. A better world is possible.

[@r0guedoll]

I wish you the best Ivana, I hope your future is a lot brighter & you gain more clarity ❤

[@sonyahenderson144]

She appears to be high af

[@adayinthelifeof6197]

How did you come to that conclusion?

[@RD-nm2xj]

I think English is not her first language, and she having a hard time choosing her words 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@carmenroffa]

​@@RD-nm2xj she's Swedish

[@wildwildItaly]

​@@carmenroffashe's from Bosnia and Her father was from Ukraine

[@kokosovatycinka]

No matter where is she from she definitely looks high as a kite on dope.

[@undrtow0515]

Oh, she’s crazy. Got it.

[@gossamer9966]

Hybristophilia is a bizarre fetish usually women who become obsessed with seriously dangerous predatory men, especially famous convicted serial killers and murderers.

[@ReadyFreddy1011]

Definitely

[@mermaidofaloha]

She seems like she is on opiates now, talking so slow, thoughts trailing off, incomplete sentences, eyelids closed often, like she's about to nod off. Heartbreaking. Such a young, beautiful woman with her whole life ahead of her. I pray her future becomes better than her past. I pray for a good, safe, secure, happy life for her & her daughter. 🙏

[@Ch-vl8bg]

I think she is on xanax or valium. Maybe suboxone?

[@TheApparatchik]

Bosnian War was occurring when her family fled to Sweden. I interviewed lots of Bosnians during the 1990s,. I heard lots of trauma like rape, torture, and beatings among Orthodox Christians, Catholics, and Muslims and suspect that maybe playing into her trauma [ in addition to her family issues]and her life choices. Hope her daughter Iris is ok and in Sweden. She is truly lucky Sweden granted her family permanent residence in the country. Many Bosnians were sent back

[@ShejtanVrbaski]

Most of Bosnian refugees in Sweden got to stay as Sweden in those days granted permanent residence as standard, which gave ability to apply for Swedish citizenship after 5 years. It was actually Germany that sent many Bosnians back after the war ended. Also, I must elaborate on your (and some other posters) comments about the Bosnian War. ( I won't repeat myself why I think Ivana's situation unlikely has anything to do with it ). You make it seem like there were just these three crazy Balkan tribes just killing eachother with equal share of responsibility for whatever happened there. The Bosnian war was not a civil war. It was agression / attack on Bosnia-Herzegovina's sovereignty orchestrated by neighbouring states - primarily Serbia but even Croatia (the latter is a taboo subject in some circles as Croatia generally counts as "one of the good guys" in Yugoslav wars, especially since Serbia attacked Croatia too 1 yr earlier). While it is Captain Obvious that civilians of all sides involved in an armed conflict do suffer it is important to not use that fact in purpose of normalization or relativization of what really was going on there. It was only Serbs that commited genocide against their Bosniak muslim neighbours, while Croatian side is responsible for so called joint criminal enterprise causing severe crimes against humanity. This is just a proven legal fact and nothing really to argue or compromise about if you respect the international rule of law. All this is easy to verify if you do research. All atrocities, war crimes, systematic plans for murder and/or expulsion of population are well documented by the International War Crime Tribunal in Hague - resulting in pretty much entire Serbian military and political establishment from that time ending up behind bars for genocide and war crimes. Quite few prominent Croatian figures were convicted too, like that loon who commited suicide by taking poison in the court when he got his verdict not that long time ago! Only small number of Bosniak / pro-Bosnian individuals were convicted, no high ranks and certainly not for genocide.

[@TheApparatchik]

@ShejtanVrbaski The point of my comment the war in Bosnia could have played in the trauma the woman experienced. The video is designed to understand her decisions. It was not explored or discussed during the interview. Most viewers don't know about the war, so I had to state something quick why it was a relevant comment. If any viewer is interested in a history of the war in Bosnia, he or she can easily get that information.

[@b4d0n10n]

​@@TheApparatchikI'd have to agree with you. This trauma is deep, and it something you can't just get rid of, and people get scarred differently. These psychological scars last a lifetime. It's really sad. Fellow Bosnian speaking here, fled to Germany during the war, had to find a new place to live after the war. However, this young lady was not one who would have been affected by the Bosnian trauma. She was too young to probably remember any of it. Most of her trauma will have stemmed from a really jacked up family situation. Cheers!

[@b4d0n10n]

​@@ShejtanVrbaskisuper si ovo napisao! Hvala ti brate. Evo nas sada po bijelom svijetu, još uvijek izbjeglice.

[@bonneycheals7143]

@@ShejtanVrbaskiIm born in a war in Croatian, but I don’t know about what lunatic that off him self in courtroom you are refereeing to? Maybe to put a name?

[@d.d8381]

i am always suprised killers and serial killers get more love-letters from women then me

[@Sangria]

Now you know what you gotta do

[@marysunshine5587]

lots of stupid women with unresolved issues

[@emilyemily444]

😂😂😂

[@shirleyperich1069]

lol

[@Kate-it7cn]

In the black community the killers get all the chicks.

[@molliegill1559]

This was painful on so many levels

[@chevyriding4646]

Parents fathers love your daughters this is just crazy. Last thing you would want is your daughter to think like her

[@thematriarchy2075]

Interesting how it should be quite easy to understand each other, all we need to do is really listen instead of waiting to get our opinion in. The comments are getting worse and worse here on this channel. Thank you very much, Ivana, for doing the interview . I understood you hardly got any sleep before the interview and you are speaking in a foreign lanquage too. I think that the pace of it, is something that americans are not used to, generaly speaking, or maybe more so the Tik Tok generation, who knows. Good for you to beat the addiction, i am proud of you. I wish you the best and safe travels ❤

[@rachelcarmeladams9557]

A beautiful comment. This is the message of Marks channel xxx

[@Toonces666]

Yes, great comment! Thank you.

[@KaseyKaufman]

She is in a benzo dream 😂😂😂😂 I love when mark comes in with a better help ad as she is talking 😂😂😂 perfect ad placement !

[@Nicole-jf6xc]

😂😂😂

[@bethbkr4]

I'm sorry but I'm 8 minutes in and I can't even watch this one...

[@sirwilliams5513]

Same. It's beyond sick. Should never have been posted. Should be taken down!

[@leneo1731]

Caroline, Amanda, Rebecca, Niqi, the Thai transgender girls. Out of all the absolutely heartbreaking, devastatingly sad stories I've seen in here, she is truly one of the most broken people I've ever seen. She seems absolutely shattered and almost dead inside. I don't know if it's because of medication or whatever but she's so emotionally flat. Unfortunately I can relate to a lot of her issues but at least I hope I believe I'm worthy of some love. She doesn't seem like she has no self worth at all. How sad is that.

[@NyxxNoire]

It's sad ur comparing urself to her.

[@catfish9537]

Sometimes I worry about my mental health, I'm healthy as fuck!

[@krzychoos6633]

XD

[@ItsMe-Blue]

😆 Same!! 😂

[@debbierennox931]

😂😂😂I had worried about mine too

[@temitayoabodunde9944]

😂

[@MoschPom]

for reals… its sad though. SO MANY mentally ill, POSSESSED and WEAK people😢 its creepy

[@alukeom3815]

She currently resides in Sweden with another man named Ahmed, so idk how updated her relationship with Benjamin is

[@elainefranco725]

Ohhh. How did you find this out??? So exciting

[@RICKELLE13]

How do you know this?

[@ShejtanVrbaski]

​@@RICKELLE13It's very easy to find someone in Sweden via Internet. It's all open if you don't have protected identity. Knowing her first name, age, and the fact she lives in a small town - it kind of narrows down the number of "Ivana's" who are 31 or 32 yrs old.

[@CrystalWebb-ep4fy]

​@@ShejtanVrbaskiplease tell me her name! I been talking to Ben for 7 years and she's DEFINITELY GETTING PLAYED!

[@CrystalWebb-ep4fy]

@@LeahRoyal-hp7bk I have spoke to Ben for over 7 years. Everything he's said to her he has done to me. All the way down to the phone. I want to speak this woman I feel for her.

[@debbie1966]

She doesn’t know how old she is??

[@billdavies7243]

This has totally baffled me

[@alice5515]

Thank you. I’m here in the comments trying to wonder wtf I just watched

[@mollyswanner1607]

It's like every other story on here. No nuclear strong families anymore, kids are f'd up, then go to drugs or sex work.

[@mollyswanner1607]

​@@alice5515 what is baffling? It's like every other story on here. No 2 parent good families anymore, kids do drugs and sex work.

[@TheAnthoula14]

I know the documentary she saw him on (i watch pretty much all British tv, and iTV did a couple of documentaries about men in Indiana prisons) I think the first one came out in 2013 and they did a follow up in 2018. He was in both of them. She didn't mention that this guy was married to a lady living in England at that time, who was also a pen pal. who knows what happened to her

[@peggyowen3386]

This woman needs some serious help.

[@CarniverousChar]

Everything happens for a reason...don't beat yourself up ❤ Have a great life with and your daughter...you deserve it! ❤️

[@deonteirvin6130]

she know damn well she isnt in her 30’s . 32 at that . im 32 and i dont look this old . she needs mental help

[@Gram820]

She looks 40... minimum

[@sarahalbers5555]

I agree. And it's a hard 40 something.

[@mattseky1867]

​@sarahalbers5555 if she was born during the Bosnian war, she would be in her 30's. 92-95

[@irinapavlovna3115]

@@Gram820 75. She looks 75. Don’t be shy.

[@Therezumee92]

Someone already said it - it's a safe relationship. She knows where he is at all times and he can't hurt her. That's why many inmates get letters and ''girlfriends''. Human mind is insane in that regard.

[@tomdonahue4224]

Thank you for correcting her when she called the deceased Police Officer a "Cop."

[@chrisepps6902]

Uhh

[@TheScotian82]

when did "cop" become derogatory? people need to stop whining foul about every little thing.

[@tomdonahue4224]

@TheScotian82 The term isn't necessarily derogatory, but the way it was used lacked respect for the deceased. Shooting and killing someone isn't just a "little thing." It was a reminder that this isnt just some Prison Romance, that there are real victims here. Mark brought that fact back into focus and I applaud him for it. And yes, people are too sensitive sometimes.

[@Aquabob1]

Citizen (with a badge) On Patrol……that’s what they are.

[@milicaradakovic8098]

Consider that English is probably her third language. I think that from where both of us are from, we do not make difference between those two words when we learn English.

[@ow3wells]

If this guy could be released, I wonder how long would they remain a couple?

[@DTD-no7wl]

Not long

[@wolfe6220]

One night. Then he would rob her, probably unalive her then go on the run.

[@sarahalbers5555]

Depends on how much money she has...

[@kathyyoungberg1578]

The man she loved, appeared to be a real player when I looked at him. He must have thought he won the lottery when this absolutely beautiful person that he could easily manipulate, and to make his only life left the best possible it could be. Wow. Sad sad life she had and has.

[@tiffanyberkenes]

Sometimes the questions Mark asks in interviews really bother me.

[@deannastar4514]

Not much going on upstairs. I have a headache now. I hope she's not a voter here. Ugh

[@JacobTheAmish]

I lost interest as soon as she couldn't remember if she was 31 or 32.

[@wildwildItaly]

Me too, I think she made up a great big fairytale

[@sadiestoltzfus9798]

Agreed and she is Swedish 🤨as if.

[@Toonces666]

I don’t remember how old I am and sometimes have to do the math. Once you are past a certain age, it just doesn’t matter. Plus, you’re in the womb for nearly a year, so the math is off anyway. Who gives a shit?

[@maryl234]

probably 42.

[@VanessaJohnson-uj5yd]

Yeah that was weird.

[@michaelmccarthy3191]

The relationship fulfilled her needs…box checked. The fact that she shares the relationship openly is a cry for help or desire to be a victim. This is her quiet FU to the world and it comforts her.

[@chrism5126]

So this is how I score a date?

[@TheScotian82]

Isnt that something?? Yea, we know shes nuts. What an absolutely awful waste of such a mint human specimen.

[@BadBusDvr80]

With a hot Swedish chick at that 😂

[@susanseiler2071]

If you are interested in a no-sex relationship with an empty head, yes.

[@Mr.paint123]

Everybody wants to study serial killers BUT nobody wants to be a victim

[@ljuarez67]

I dated a convict once. He said he was innocent and I believed him. He also said they lost his files so he couldn’t prove he was innocent. I was so dumb. But at that time i had a very low self esteem and really liked the guy cause i felt he really saw me for me. I was in California all by myself and very very lonely. I really wish i could erase that time in my life. He made a mess of what was already a mess for me.

[@sarahalbers5555]

This is exactly what these kind of men do. I hope you are on the path to recovery.

[@AnneK180]

„I can’t imagine life without him…”. Girl, you’re without him almost all year long!

[@donniejunk2860]

Loving the unobtainable is the only perfect love once we actually possess the object of our desire we become familiar and familiarity breeds contempt.

[@jennifercrosby3789]

I’m so glad you got a sponsor you deserve it

[@mariebutterfly1296]

In spite of my initial tendancy at the beginning of the interview( to pass on the rest)- I'm glad I watched the whole video.Until a person is able to really understand the depth of someone elses pain,(emptiness,trauma ,mental illness,lack of self worth etc.) It can be so easy to flippantly judge them. Thanks Mark! Not everyone is going to like it ,understand it or even be able to wrap their mind around the idea that there is value in your interviews.However,for the ones that do understand -they are a gift. I think that understanding others and the life events that shaped them has great potential for helping make the world a better place...at least a kinder, more loving one.

[@Monica313_]

The thumbnail picture and just overall the look on this woman’s face. She looks empty. No idea what true love is. She needs so much help

[@Kay_Watermelon]

My thoughts exactly. Hollow at best....

[@Jdawn92]

Well she has a daughter at least

[@jojobee42]

There was something interesting about this interview ~ even though it was immediately obvious there's something "off" about her, her being a Bosnian-Swede made her more interesting, and her as a type (and how slow she talked) was strangely fascinating... *PS.* I recommend listening to this faster, otherwise it's impossible to listen to! You can change the playback speed in the settings, just make it x2...

[@Unreligion]

She doesn’t know her self worth 😔 you can do so much more Ivana!

[@RVsbladesnthangs]

I didn't make it very far before I got sick and decided to watch something else. I deal with monsters all day, I'm not going to watch this trash in my spare time

[@MichelleKorey]

The best thing she said the whole interview is that it’s not about her now, it’s about her daughter. I pray this woman can keep it together for herself and her daughter

[@nicholkola9975]

Please do an update with Kat. She’s dating a man in prison for murdering 2 women.

[@SoftWhiteUnderbelly]

Thank you. I’d heard this recently.

[@thematriarchy2075]

And maybe interviews with men who are in a relationship with female inmates. ​@@SoftWhiteUnderbelly

[@selfdiscardedkingofruin7291]

I did 8 years in prison and had a girl pursuing me and would even come visit me but I wouldn't a relationship Beyond friendship and told her so. Thankfully she found a great guy and got married. Just because someone makes a mistake doesn't mean that you have to put your life on pause too

[@student22044]

This is a compelling story. Thanks, Ivana and Mark. I hope life with your daughter brings you the joy you deserve, Ivana. I've just watched 'Inside Death Row with Trevor McDonald' and the follow-up five years later. Very interesting indeed!

[@hollyharris1874]

Violent dad was nice only to her. Then killer was nice to her. That's where she got her worth. She needs to get it from within.

[@venetia6296]

‘bless your heart, Ivana. Sending good vibes 🫶

[@sharonhutchins5784]

He’s similar to me, in a way…..? Good Lord, this woman needs help in so many ways.