Kamala's DNC Coronation | Glenn Loury & John McWhorter | The Glenn Show

[@chefwannabe1]

There’s nothing joyful about unemployment, starvation, and living on the streets.

[@madelineharkins5643]

Touche !

[@WOWWOW-hk1tb]

Better than slavery

[@ChadLieberman1]

Nothing joyful about having a convicted felon as president

[@zyzzer]

​@@WOWWOW-hk1tb with that logic, it's like saying a woman being raped should be thinking "well at least it's just one person and not a whole gang"

[@suebowman7258]

Well said! We are struggling under this administration

[@danielsanchez5373]

Mr Loury is evolving into the Sowell of my generation. Love it!

[@kans6]

I wish

[@PatWaller-i2s]

Can you organise a talk with Thomas Sowell Glen? This would be amazing both of you and agreeing to many things…that will be JOY!

[@nancygawlowicz2562]

Nice comment if exaggerated. No one is replacing Mr. Sowell.

[@sylvanbear7125]

He is certainly thoughtful and less mesmerized by partisanship than McWhorter, but I don't think he has the grasp of economic reality and the dangers of the authoritarian state that Thomas Sowell has exhibited.

[@kans6]

@@sylvanbear7125 well said

[@AFringedGentian]

Glenn I am so happy and relieved that you are making such an excellent recovery. I smiled so widely when you said you were pain-free!

[@stevehicks8944]

Dr. Loury, I’ve done the spinal fusion thing myself. IF your pain returns investigate a SCS( spinal cord stimulator). Mine changed my life!

[@thundercat621]

As a Black Conservative, these conversations are such a breath of fresh air! Thank you!

[@barrybush7884]

As a 'white' conservative,' I feel the same way.... And despite his TDS, I'd probably vote for John if he ran in any election I could vote for him in.

[@johndoh5316]

"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." Voltaire

[@armanitransport2604]

Facts ✊🏾

[@ECW1153]

Truth

[@ConservativeMan20]

Absolutely

[@kirkjohnson4569]

I guess you're free

[@Mississippislim70]

Whoa! I need to read more!

[@Mr.Free2Play]

The DNC Convention felt like one of those Mid Level Marketing conventions, where they talk about feeling good not an actual policy or product.

[@louiskleinfashion]

Good analogy.

[@TheTerryE]

Always enjoy listening to the Professors Loury and McWhorter.

[@brocktoon8]

A serious Party does not platform on "joy". And an intelligent, adult population should not be bamboozled by that. If you are two years old, then fine. But not anyone over that age.

[@TrentSLucas]

They couldn’t exactly use “Hope” again, but she isn’t Obama anyways.

[@madelineharkins5643]

Touche!

[@ChadLieberman1]

Yeah, they should vote on “lock her up” instead 😂

[@ubuu7]

Listen up brock, I know why I'm voting for democrats and my reasons are a thousand times more thought out as most republicans/conservatives. I have a lot more to favor in kamala over Trump than increased "joy" Another loser conservative who hears Glenn piss nonsense in their mouths they want to taste and think that scales beyond your conservative cult. Trust me, it does not.

[@Kidsinamerica]

As-opposed to a party that is currently campaigning on "Please parole/pardon me"????

[@ohsweetmystery]

It's just so pleasant to listen to, and be educated by, two well-spoken, well-educated, independent, intelligent people. I wish the whole world was like this.

[@kimy675]

cant be thatv smart they like harris

[@SquirrelJones]

The DNC “joy” stuff came across as self-soothing. It’s like they were trying to convince themselves that they don’t suck.

[@xaspirate8060]

Don't you think it was about the Dems taking Kamala's glaring weakness, steal if from Conservative bashing, and transform it into something entirely different? I don't know how many times in past 4 years where Kamala's laughing was the target of ridicule = too many to count honestly. This was a good move politcally as it takes the sting out of critics on the Right calling her out on her silliness and the fact that she laughs far too often at the wrong time and place. Instead of saying "Look at this Lunatic"..it is now "Oh how joyous!"

[@DLH.23]

If only we could buy groceries with joy

[@mistersteve5354]

I just want to say how much I appreciate you two men. Your range is from the humor of Statler and Waldorf (the two old guys in the balcony on The Muppets) to the deep musings of Plato and Aristotle. You model the best practices of thoughtful dialogue and civility whether in agreement or disagreement. You each seem to truly regard the other with respect and affection. Thank you! We in the peanut gallery need to see intelligent discourse in such a humane frame. It is a rarity these days.

[@theohallmd]

Neither party has been a paragon of democracy. The neo-Marxist woke totalitarian movement is as anti democratic as their allied Islamists. A year ago, I was determined to support the rule of law against Trumpism, for DeSantis then Haley while considering myself a never Trumper. Voted for Clinton, against Buchanan in 1992. For Obama against Palin in 2008. For Obama again in 2012 to give him a second term shot at Hope and Change. For Biden against Trump in 2020. Even old fools can still learn. I’m done with Democrats, the alternative better. The Democratic Party fear mongering doesn’t work on me anymore.

[@lynettepolewka2775]

Love the Muppets reference! Yes, and we need more of it!

[@davidvega462]

Mr Loury please take care of yourself. The world needs men like you.

[@meinking22]

"Nobody voted for her." - Glenn Nailed it. Voters are being disenfranchised in a major way.

[@rajdialnandram5676]

Then all those had been disenfranchised by the anointing of Kamala should show their disgust by not voting for the Democratic Party on this election. Do these disenfranchised Dems have the belly to stand up to their Party hierarchy for taking them for granted.

[@gloriagoree7375]

none of them are complaining.... what are you talking about it for? F. O.

[@ubuu7]

99.9% of democrats and liberals don't give a damn about that, right wingers love to pretend they give a damn about that because they have so little else to toss her way. I'm an actual democrat and liberal. I'm THRILLED kamala took over for Biden after he dropped out because Biden was too degraded to campaign. And that is the sentiment of virtually EVERY liberal and democrat. Glenn is pathetic little panderer who needs to drip feed narratives conservatives want to hear. Don't mistake his screed for what actual liberals think.

[@cashmeremonroe7715]

​@@rajdialnandram5676 No. They don't.

[@cashmeremonroe7715]

​@@gloriagoree7375 Very intelligent response.

[@ltcolumbo9708]

Why is this channel not popping as it deserves! This is what I want to see in the black community. Educated, articulated and inspiring

[@rklrkn58]

I think you answered your own question. whether it's the Black or White community, few people want to actually think about what they believe. This podcasts and those like it make the people watching consider their own views and have them expertly challenged. It's great that these two friends can dialogue even though their individual political viewpoints are different.

[@glassmmam]

Black or white... people really dislike Jordan Peterson also. Would be cool to hear the 3 of them talk on a variety of subjects.

[@Raullives]

its too honest....

[@obedirect5491]

Agreed. Though McWhorters POVs are weird. @29:00& more😁

[@smartthevote]

good point; but the answer is obvious....what Prof. Loury is saying here doesn't fit the liberal media narrative.

[@oncho1960]

Glenn is a national treasure.....please stay healthy!!!!!

[@obedirect5491]

McWhorter in contrast, not so much.

[@leftykiller8344]

John should listen to RFK Jr.’s speech. He tried to reach out to the Harris campaign first, and got turned down. Also, I haven’t heard a single positive argument for Harris. Everybody I’ve listened to is voting for her because “not Trump.” That’s not a positive argument for her, just a negative argument against Trump.

[@StranjjurNYC]

yep. it's a losing strategy. it worked in 2020 but there are an awful lot of voters who checked the box for Biden as a vote against Trump who regret being deceived. Myself included. At this point for me, provocation with the country which possesses the largest nuclear arsenal (Russia) is the most pressing issue or our time. I've never been a single issue voter, but I am this time because we have never been closer to a nuclear war.

[@MrChillidee]

Yep I'm beginning to think these people would vote for a monkey as long as his name isn't Trump.

[@FreedomAintFree-ol6fy]

Yeah well he said about rfk's reasoning for joining Trump, his minimizing of those issues, was disgusting. 3/4 of our young population being too disabled to serve in the military is a crisis. Autism rates going from one in 10,000 to under 1 in 40 is a crisis.

[@Exileonbackroad]

Maybe you should try listening to different people. There are plenty of people who have positive arguments for her. And RFK Jr is massively problematic, I don't blame the Dems for passing on him.

[@leftykiller8344]

@@Exileonbackroad Could you please give me some?

[@MyriamS-d8s]

I thought the American people were too smart to fall for all of their lies. However, many Americans rather vote for their so called joy than economics and safety. It is mind-blowing.

[@sansacro007]

I completely agree with Glenn about Kamala (48 min in). But I have come to reject the elite public shaming of voting for Trump. I have never voted for a republican prez, but I feel so condescended to by the elite Dems and their propaganda machinery, so comfortable in their affluent lives. I'm barely making ends meet and live in a small space with failing health. My taxes are high and poorly managed by a wasteful bureaucratic gov. As a white man who came from nothing, I am sick of identity politics. I am un-apologetically voting for Trump, problematic as he is.

[@victorbrown3570]

As a white man who came from nothing you're sick of identity politics. When did you become sick of it because it's been going on in this country pretty much since its inception? Propaganda machinery, as if Trump and his like don't have a propaganda machinery. Living in a small place, well why haven't you pulled yourself up by the boot straps like many Americans, especially black ones have been told for years. I could go on, but I have more interesting things to do. Condescending, have you watched Fox news? You're barely making ends meet. What happened, why haven't you pulled yourself up by your boot straps. That is an often used trope, just work your ass off and pull yourself up by your own means. Finally, I'm so tired of hearing people say un-apologetically, but I have no desire too outlaw it.

[@smittycity42]

Sure, your barely making it, but don't you know Trump is mean!

[@gnlout7403]

Well said

[@geoffsparks2588]

Well, good luck with that! Trump will make you a rich guy too.

[@winnigriff8989]

I could never vote for Trump I'm a military vet

[@christinecoleman8130]

I chimed in on pieces of the convention, but I could NOT stomach it. Most of it was cringe to me and made me want to vomit! I left the D party years ago, and this absolutely, unequivocally, DID NOT CHANGE MY MIND about the D Party! In fact, I was more disgusted than I have EVER been in my life!

[@mariannorton4161]

I had to watch Drinkin Bros in order to get through the last night.

[@herbsu4330]

Always a lively conversation but John says he doesn't fall for the rhetoric yet just dismisses any thought process when it comes to Trump and his opinion of RFK Jr is idiotic.

[@PatriciaPerricone-gt9vf]

This channel should have millions of followers. I just found it. Great admiration for both men.

[@user-zn9iz9eu6z]

The amount of gaslighting from the Harris ticket speaks volumes about their contempt and arrogance concerning the common man and woman.

[@dennisdose5697]

And how little they actually believe in their values and agenda. They know they are pedaling garbage.

[@nebwachamp]

In the Rittenhouse video the mob was supporting the pdf graper until he started using the N word. Our priorities are incredibly corrupted and its by design.

[@nebwachamp]

What im trying to say is leftys are so afraid of being labled a racist they will follow the path of least resistance and apoear justified.

[@lizroberts8168]

That rant at the beginning was worth it for me. Glenn Loury bringing the passion!

[@jenjudson7180]

Thank you, Gentlemen. I'm a retired white woman in middle America. I love listening to the two of you. I always learn something. But most especially it's a wonderful example of dialog between two individuals who aren't always in agreement. We need more strong examples of civil discourse. Again, thank you.

[@JamesRowe-nu3kv]

I was a conmunity activist in Chicago at the time Obama was. I conducted voter registration drives, clothed and fed people in need. However, I didnt get a book contract for a autobiography from a major international publisher. Nor was I dropped into Chicago politics with money to run for congress and then state senator. I had extensive ties in the black community but Obama didn't. How did that happen? Obama just parachuted in😊😊😊😊

[@mariannorton4161]

He was the anointed child and they new his rhetoric would take him a long way. He destroyed half the Middle East and made certain Russia and Ukraine would finally go to war - oh well. Humanity would have been far better served had you been given the book deal. Much to my chagrin, I voted for him twice. I owe the world an apology.

[@malupuakea7084]

@@mariannorton4161 💝 Appreciate your growth & learning❣️ Pls go vote❣️ 🇺🇲❤️MAGA❤️🇺🇲

[@malupuakea7084]

Obama grew up in HI raised by his white G-ma during a time when he was most likely the only black person attending the elite private school, Punahou. This school is all about connections.

[@babyyeti2540]

John’s take on RFK Jr goes beyond simply Cynical and enters the domain of the absurd

[@piper3032]

I agree!

[@mariannorton4161]

He needs to watch the Rogan interview, learn about the man, or perhaps decline the comentary. The smear job on RFK is unrelenting and it is big Pharma paying for it.

[@jeffreyscott4997]

RE: "weird" The idea that champions of Queer Theory would call anyone weird, says someething about how they relate thought to power.

[@ursamahan-worlds5726]

Weird is weird not about queer.

[@jeffreyscott4997]

@ursamahan-worlds5726 Weird means exactly the same as queer. It's being used to point to a person whose behavior is outside the social norm as a violator of those norms. He's not like us. He's not one of us, and he acts differently. It's literally what they call 'marginalization', and it's being done as a political act.

[@jlorde8838]

Trump was born into money but he certainly works his ass off.

[@ChadLieberman1]

Trump declared in August 2016: "I'm going to be working for you. I'm not going to have time to play golf.” He then spent 307 days, almost a full year, golfing during his presidency.

[@jlorde8838]

@@ChadLieberman1 and still kicked booty.

[@slowwwcooker]

Yes he did and still does. Anyone saying he was born with a silver spoon means nothing to me coming from Dems, what are the Obama girls getting, think about that. We all pass on what we have to our kids because we love them…. 26:49

[@orangefacedbuddah1776]

amazing work ethic.

[@aidananstey9848]

Big Mike saying "they will never experience generational wealth" when their daughter is already worth $10million is just ridiculous.

[@PrincessPattyPumpkin]

After 4 years of a Trump presidency, where the world didn't end and, in fact, things were better, how can John still be so blind?

[@Mississippislim70]

John got TDS from the media

[@robertweatherwax]

High IQ doesn't equate to wisdom

[@BrianJones-rx9cq]

We’re in a time where high IQ has divorced from common sense….smh

[@gigiontube]

These guys don’t live in reality. They are driven by their egos while living in their rosy bubbles. It’s easy to make it in life when your salary does not have to be earned but given to you by governments.

[@zyzzer]

TDS is strong, even in this who were adults while living through the Trump and current presidency (can't say "Biden" or "Harris" presidency because no one knows who's actually running things but it's obvious it's neither of them)

[@ironmantriathlete6769]

John, it seems like you're implying that the sole basis for voting for the President should be the candidate's personality. Putting personality aside, shouldn't we consider the candidates' policies and their representation of the US on the political stage? There are multiple factors to consider when casting a vote!

[@icjulia2]

John’s a political elitist Democrat. Their decisions are always emotional and based on identity politics.

[@pk4459]

I am totally on board with Trump's policies as they are currently laid out, in meticulous detail, in the Project 2025 final document. Fight, fight, fight!

[@mariannorton4161]

Exactly.

[@FordSkilled]

Glenn Loury might be the most important black intellectual voice out there today.

[@PanhandleFrank]

The competition is pretty steep as long as Tom Sowell is alive. (No knock on Glenn whatsoever ... )

[@kans6]

Maybe he used to be but his behavior in the last 4 months has begun making that questionable. No one is sorrier to say that than me

[@kans6]

@@PanhandleFrankit is very steep and these last 4 month have made me scratch my head. So sorry to hear it

[@PanhandleFrank]

@@kans6 _Whose_ behavior these last four months??

[@jennylynn8314]

​@PanhandleFrank I was getting ready to say maybe the next Thomas Sowell? 😊

[@rishotube]

Glenn went off. Love his rants. Glad his recovery is going well

[@ajg1791]

Glenn's rants are legendary. One of the main reasons to tune in.

[@johnverling2240]

John, your TDS is palpable. You never give specifics as to why you find DJT so horrible. E.G. he is an "ass hole". Please, sir, raise your game.

[@vydel]

Like your game is raised? 😂😂😂 Hahahaha!!!

[@rdf098311]

@@vydelnor urz

[@mctownes2013]

People with TDS can never articulate why they hate him.

[@pk4459]

Adjudicated rapist? Convicted felon? Leader of violent coup attempt? Serial grifter and bankruptcy artist?

[@johnverling2240]

Further examples of breathless TDS. Thank you.

[@sansacro007]

You guys, esp John, need to listen to RFK's campaign suspension speech; he addressed these points. IT was one of the best speeches by a politician I've seen.

[@dr.emilschaffhausen4683]

It was a speech that should be shown in classrooms across the nation.

[@christineannakochmann1523]

Lmao

[@tammyjohnson5949]

It was great!

[@piper3032]

He really should listen to that one and so many more to get a realistic understanding.

[@SheenaRea]

Harris doesn't see we don't need "JOY" right now. We need a hell of a lot more than "JOY."

[@beccamoore5372]

Exactly! Oparh is a serpent singing to a certain group of people that view her as a false god

[@jimison24937]

I'm glad you're doing well, Prof. Loury. Back pain is just awful. Take care of yourself, sir. We need you.

[@sylvanbear7125]

Aye, the late 70s are a bear! Here's hoping you have a good medical plan.

[@jgalt308]

The question that keeps resurfacing is: How disconnected from reality IS John?

[@PrincessPattyPumpkin]

YES!!

[@528Circle]

I appreciate his ability to talk calmly about his differing POV, but by metric could anyone possibly want to keep the status quo with Harris vs the peace and prosperity we had under Trump? I’m an independent, and there could not be a more clear choice in this matter for me. I am not looking for a saint, a savior or a spouse. I don’t care if you like Trump personally or not. Life in America was objective better under his leadership.

[@jgalt308]

@@528Circle At some point, one would think he would wake up to the fact of the threat Trump poses to the "establishment"...or learn the meaning of the word "democracy" or learn the history of why we aren't one, or something to indicate he isn't living in a bubble of his own creation. His biggest concern "if she wins" seems to be that the racial component will be used to avoid "criticisms" of what might occur...having no clue how close we are to'"absolute tyranny" or the fact that we have been on this path since Woodrow Wilson or that FDR killed the 'constitution," and the only thing that remains of it are vague references when they seem "convenient." At least Glenn raised the point of "Oprah and the Obama's" masquerading as an "oppressed" class...even though it was a rather minimal take. It also doesn't match up with his appreciation of Thomas Sowell's work, so much so that one wonders if he has any actual knowledge of it. Sadly, these bi-weekly forays have actually become painful to watch and a waste of time, given the present state of things...bi-monthly would be better, or semi-annually, best of all. Glenn could and would do much better without him...for all concerned.

[@Exileonbackroad]

@@528Circle no, it was subjectively better with Trump. It's your opinion.

[@madelineharkins5643]

​@@528CircleDamn skippy!

[@judymiddleswart9350]

Awwaa HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU GLEN!!! My hubs & I just so respect and love your videos!!! ❤🎉

[@johnkingpartners]

You two are both exceptional and delightful. One of the great pleasures of my life at 83, when indeed, 'life is short', is to enjoy the rich discourse of Glenn and Loury and John McWhorter. Thank you to both of you. Blessings.

[@rickrudd]

I'm too cynical for party comventions, although Tucker Carlson's off-the-cuff speech at the RNC was perfect.

[@AFringedGentian]

Tucker Carlson won me over with that speech.

[@VitaRaynor-oi4md]

Tucker is a courageous man a Brillant man who never stops relentlessly seeks out the facts the truth

[@ChadLieberman1]

Tucker is the worst kind of liar.

[@rickrudd]

@ChadLieberman1 In what way, Chad? Please be extremely specific, as I earnestly wish to be enlightened.

[@pk4459]

I love Putin too. He radicalized me against this disgusting excuse of a country.

[@michaeray2673]

Glenn is wonderful. I feel he understands the average American person and his rants represent us. John not much, he is an elitist

[@ipell5280]

And he uses every opportunity to show his elitism.

[@realMaverickBuckley]

You're breaking my heart John. You've spent years talking about things you intensely dislike. Now your voting for people, AGAIN, who are the personification of those things .

[@yushis1]

I'm disappointed that this audience has drifted so far into Trumpistan, and now actively trying to shame one of the hosts into changing his positions

[@imhbuzz746]

@@yushis1but it’s okay to call it Trumpistan? Because that’s Glenn’s candidate, I believe. Shaming is apparently only acceptable from one side.

[@yushis1]

@imhbuzz746 notice I didn't criticize him at all, didn't express disappointment with his positions, didn't pressure him to change any of his opinions. Almost like I respect the opinions of both hosts. By trumpistan I just mean that the entire chat has become a pro-Trump bubble

[@l7986]

​@@imhbuzz746 Its okay when the left does it because its upholding democracy or combating bigotry or whatever the buzzword of the day is, when anyone that isn't part of the left decides to play by the rules they set its shaming or raising the political temperature to dangerous levels.

[@FreedomAintFree-ol6fy]

​@@yushis1the root issue of why his position is frustrating is that he essentially acknowledges all of the fact based reasons as to why Kamala is terrible, but all his reasons as to why he wouldn't prefer Trump are emotions based. For a person who presents very logically, it's jarring to see them so overcome by emotions. I would love to hear him articulate within the same point why despite his skating criticism of Kamala, Trump would be worse on that particular issue.

[@phant0m92]

John calling RFK an asshole is the most hypocritical thing I've heard all month. Pot calling the kettle black much. To start using ad hominem attacks about a public figure who has fought tooth and nail against the machine that would prevent Americans from breaking out of the two party system shows how undemocratic you are.

[@MrSunrise-]

Are hypocritical and ad hominem the right words? He defined what he meant by that word and backed it up. As for ad hominem, the technical definition of ad hominem is to attack the man, not the argument. However, elections are very much about the man - you can't expect good leadership from a bad man. As for Mr. Kennedy, he could have withdrawn without throwing his support behind Trump. I don't know enough about the history here, but John explained his assertion about what motivated Kennedy's decision and while we can never truly know another person's mind, I would tend believe actions over words.

[@atheosmonde]

He said, "hes a little narcissitic" as if this isnt what you could state about any human being if you understood psychology.​The more i listen to john, the more you start to understand how little he makes sense away from linguistics....adhom is correct, he used slurs nlt arguments, hypocritical depends on what you think about john. @@MrSunrise-

[@mctownes2013]

McWhorter even suggested that he hoped someone would take Trump out, I guess he got his wish 😒.

[@tammyjohnson5949]

​@@MrSunrise-did you listen to RFKJ's speech?

[@aidananstey9848]

John has exposed himself as a vote blue no matter who fool.

[@Trishpage312]

UGH! I can't get my head around John's thinking! He does have airs of the elite about him. I dislike Trump also but honestly!?!? He is so much better then the alternative.

[@madelineharkins5643]

Damn skippy!

[@icjulia2]

I’m not persuaded by leftist propaganda so I honestly like Trump! He is a strong fighter, which is exactly what we need right now.

[@danf1862]

Glenn and John, I love how comfortable you are with English. You aren’t afraid to use the stuffy, the archaic, and the erudite words that most folks would never Google, let alone use. It’s comforting to hear people conversing so fluently. I have long struggled to be an attentive and active listener to people with impediments, accents, or disabilities. I recently found the grace to listen to the blunt-force, plain, repetitive, and simple bullet point “stream of consciousness” speaking style Trump uses. It’s mystifying how few words he uses to make a point. Should a public speaker shoot for somewhere between the Obamas and Trump? Are these opposite sides of the same coin? Am I strange for considering Trump to be a neurodivergent thinker who is misunderstood. I recently became a Naturalized Citizen of the US, so I’m scrutinizing the candidates more than I would have in the past. I fear I may have judged him unfairly.

[@holliewitt5816]

I am a Trump supporter, and I have to agree with the neurodivergent statement. Trump tends to make harsh statements that can and most times dose insult most, but he is trying to explain his words a little more this time. Sometimes he forgets that not everyone thinks like him, and dose not explain what he is trying to say. Some people over critique his words into their own thoughts on what he is saying. Example: “Black Jobs” statement at the Black Journalist Convention. My son is also neurodivergent and understood it completely differently than I did. My son said that immigrants are moved to areas of our country that has a majority of Black Americans. Immigrants are not unskilled or uneducated on the wide range of opportunities that they will capitalize on here in America, and do it for less. My so also said that it is stupid to think that people coming into our country are incapable or have no education, and that by people being offended by what Trump said is actually more racist, because they are saying that immigrants are beneath them and could never possibly have or take their jobs.. This statement blew my mind!!! My son is right… That is exactly how racists see the world, as more superior than another race. By saying this was a racist statement, makes you a racist. Crazy right?

[@lynettepolewka2775]

I think you make a good point I have also discovered recently. Trump isn't a smooth talker. He's a doer, and his instincts are good. College educated white people who pride themselves on their speaking ability disdain him. They are narrow, biased, and wrong.

[@danf1862]

@@holliewitt5816 And then John used this same logic to forgive VP Harris for her word salad speech patterns in an interview. It's Interesting that nobody affords that same charity or grace to Trump and how he talks.

[@peterz22thomas5]

​@holliewitt5816 Your son doesn't sound "neurodivergent" to me. Black jobs was understood by the vast majority. Just because some tried to twist it doesn't take away from what he meant. From what he said. It seemed crystal clear to me.

[@annettemacdonald9192]

I love Glenn’s honesty and sarcasm

[@mohamedgoldstein5565]

John, dont you think the media is complicit in the euphoria about Harris?

[@marylamoreaux5341]

As people have said before John needs to get out of the new York bubble

[@icjulia2]

John sounds like a pompous elitist just like his fellow New York Times propagandist. John’s an a$$hole!

[@Rametetr]

Happy 76th, Glenn, and glad your new spine is going well! Joy, joy, JOY!!

[@listener523]

59:45 John accurately describes Kamala's entire campaign. One could imagine that she has a policy somewhere you might agree with. That's it. That's the whole of her politics.

[@rhondawest971]

Ok last one. RFKJ has spent his entire life advocating and on the ground for every one of those policies.

[@OOICU812]

Watching and listening to you guys interact is always a treat.

[@Selvarin]

*LOL* Just saw John McWhorter try to cover for Kamala's inability to speak or answer questions coherently on Bill Maher's show. John has not yet fully divested his intellect from the DNC.

[@jdankerdake]

I think one of the main purposes of these conventions isn’t necessarily to change people’s minds and political allegiances, but to galvanize people and motivate them to vote - to put action to their support and enthusiasm.

[@georgsyphers1437]

The elementary school my son attends is named after Stowe, and it put a smile on my face to hear John reference one of our hometown heroes (the other is Joshua Chamberlain). Maine is proud of our history of abolitionism, and has good reason to be, and as a New Englander who had family who volunteered for the war specifically to end slavery and had deep abolitionist roots in the quaker portions of my family, it's always nice to hear it acknowledged that we really were fighting the good fight and defending the inherent rights and value of all humanity, as well as fighting for the cohesion of our nation.

[@Trifecta21]

The fact that John is such a “wordsmith” and would choose a candidate that is pro-censorship is the epitome of irony.

[@bobby-7167]

I would have never thought Glenn was 76 years old he looks much younger in my opinion and he's got such sparkle and energy good for him

[@CarolZiegler]

🎉 Happy Birthday, Glenn. I listen to you guys all the time:) I'll be 75 on October 11th! Almost Birthday buddies! Carry on!

[@artowns7135]

Hello John! While you have my respect I wnoder what are your specific opjections concerning Trump. I don't llke either, but we cannot stand four more tears. Thank you both for good shows. AR Towns.

[@johns.7297]

The old timer Glen has a well-trained and experienced b.s. detector.

[@voxPopuli2024]

"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled". Mark Twain

[@jackieburns5257]

Willie Brown put her in high positions

[@Akhenaton1906]

The voters did that. Brown just gave her run-of-the-mill patronage opportunities as all CA Assembly speakers have long done for their friends.

[@jackieburns5257]

@@Akhenaton1906 connections count . He helped her with several positions before she became senator

[@Akhenaton1906]

@@jackieburns5257 And those were the patronage jobs I spoke of that state assembly speakers dole out to friends and supporters. Nothing exceptional was done for Kamala comparatively speaking and those jobs are mostly for supplemental income purposes, not political prestige.

[@rorywoldring5465]

Disagree with most of the chat here that is criticizing John. People forget how courageous he has been to take anti-woke positions despite being a member of the left wing. It's easy to be a conservative who is anti-woke, but someone like John is constantly taking criticism from both sides. Shamed out of the ivory tower for his 'regressive' views, but also condescended by conservative audience members who wish both hosts were carbon copies of Glenn.

[@Akhenaton1906]

Agreed. Folks crave an echo chamber these days.

[@sylvanbear7125]

To observe that his views on Trump are not as dispassionate as Glenn's is not to assert that he is foolish or hyper-partisan, only that he harbors certain preconceptions that have not been sufficiently examined.

[@peterz22thomas5]

He has positioned himself quite nicely. Very smart man.

[@smitty923]

I could listen to you 2 chat all day long. Thanks for doing these

[@playnejayne5550]

"Weird" is really bad if you live in a 7th-grade world. Those are the kids you don't play with because that would make you weird too.

[@RobertaKC1]

Good for you John for recognizing your need for a break...enjoy.

[@richardtardo5170]

John can afford to bear 4 more years of woke failed policies and he definitely has T.D.S.

[@karlpilkingtonspilko-pants3287]

Correct. He treats high gas prices and out-of-control inflation as a nuisance and not the threat to lower and middle class families that I would imagine most of us come from. To not elect Trump at this moment would be devastating to so so many.

[@johndoh5316]

I am glad someone pointed it out. Biden and Harris did so much to black men and people just let it go. The same people that get mad at white people for saying get over slavery are the same ones that are telling me to get over the horrendous acts done by these those two.

[@ricardocima]

@@karlpilkingtonspilko-pants3287 it is all true, but what's the option if Trump has dictatorial tendencies? If a candidate doesn't accept election results, he just isn't fit for the job.

[@GENERICCEREAL67]

“Tardo” is a very suiting surname for you, Richard

[@prodigygod1]

​@ricardocima Everyone knows the election was bogus. Noone expected Trump to lose so much so the left brags about all the ways they stole it. They don't care that it was unfair. They just care about getting Hitler out. We all know strings were being pulled since before he was elected the first time but the elites hubris prevented them from foreseeing he would win. We have people like John so caught up with the "norms" when at this point are just chains constricting America's freedom. "He should just accept it!" No the fuck he shouldn't. Just like the people shouldn't. We have for too long just accepted the way things are as we are bled and used for the elites purposes to dominate the world. We are given lip service and scraps while our morals are being ripped apart for profit. People just accepted right to their face Kamala Harris the most unpopular person up until 5 mins ago is now the nominee who noone voted for. What country is this? This is 100x worse than j6. We're a republic even tho many think were a democracy but what a republic and a democracy can agree on is the people vote for their candidate. Kamala was just put there.

[@lindanedilsky8677]

I don't get JOY from the government.. I feel joy from God..I feel joy watching a baby giggle..but not from what tje government thinks it can do for me. Joy is spiritual and moves my soul.

[@tiffanyweisse6544]

Babies laughing is the best sound in the universe!

[@gabriel-1957]

Glenn what you said was unbelievable! you are so right, people need to wake up!🙏LORD help us!

[@AnitaShelton-u4b]

Gentlemen it is a pleasure to listen to you both, I pray GOD anoints you to make a huge difference!

[@gerryconstant4914]

Sasha OBama is worth $10 million at the ripe age old of 22. Let that sink in.

[@sandrastewart7544]

Why so bitter, did she rob you

[@imhbuzz746]

@@sandrastewart7544because her mother is railing against generational wealth, maybe. And Michelle stated her mother was suspicious of people who “took more than they needed”. So she NEEDS 4 multimillion dollar homes? Having her preach at those of us who’re hoping to leave our kids a little that we shouldn’t is a problem.

[@Exileonbackroad]

@@imhbuzz746 are you as worked up about Elon Musk being worth 250 BILLION? 10 million is nothing in today's world.

[@imhbuzz746]

@@Exileonbackroad I’m not the one railing about generational wealth. I don’t care at all that he’s wealthy or that Sasha Obama will inherit. It’s Michelle that is lecturing us about it while being a part of it. The hypocrisy is somewhat appalling. I also know that generational wealth mostly only lasts a couple generations. Most families go through a couple of wealth classes in their lives. The children of those who created the wealth tend to be lazy and entitled and end up losing it.

[@xaspirate8060]

@@Exileonbackroad He earned all of that the old fashioned way.

[@pak47man]

I spent more of my life as a student than I care to admit. And then I chose a career that kept me in academia, although as a professional employee rather than in the tenure track. One of the joys of those years was firstly, being around graduate students as they enthusiastically explored their chosen fields of research. Saving the best for last, and the main reason I stayed in the academy, is the 5 - 10% of teaching and researching professors who exemplified the very best of personal and professional character. Glenn and John are well within that small cohort and it is my great privilege to be able to sit in on these impromptu seminars. What a great joy to listen to two fine minds exploring any and all topics. I'm sure they won't see this but if they do, my sincere and heartfelt thanks.

[@filmjazz]

I was a member of the Columbia University community for 12 years as an admin, and I share your sentiments about how great an environment it is to be around brilliant professors and students. Listening to Glenn and John keeps me connected to that world and I treasure every one of their conversations.

[@rufusconnolly8489]

Ah. So you are the spineless ones that couldn't be stand up when cancel culture came? Sorry, that's a really dry joke, I dont imagine the ones who stood by while ideological culture began did an getting different than I would have done. The first wave or two of cancellations were absolutely brutal

[@pak47man]

@@rufusconnolly8489 I'm not sure where you're going with this. We are talking about the small percentage of brilliant people, like Glenn and John, who make putting up with all the other bs at universities, worthwhile. I retired 17 years ago, before the woke / cancel culture really got going. It was starting though and I could tell you some stories. I was glad to get out when I did.

[@filmjazz]

@@rufusconnolly8489 I can vividly remember the first moment I was exposed to "identity politics" at a Columbia economics seminar a professor had invited me to as a guest (the lead actor from a very well-regarded indie film was there and since I was involved in media I was also invited). This took place in the early 2000s. I thought we were going to talk about the film and its relationship to economics, or the film business, but for some reason everyone in the class introduced themselves one by one and spent a minute or two establishing their personal identity, in terms of sexual orientation, race, gender, ethnicity, and place of origin. I didn't understand what was going on because half of our time with this actor was taken up by this centering of identity before we could get to anything of substance. The whole exercise seemed completely ridiculous and pointless and I was wondering what I was going to say when they finally got to me. To all appearances I'm a straight, white, male, but my identity by "woke" standards is very complicated and would surprise everyone in the room if I were to go into detail. I realized it would take too long to explain it all, so when they got to me I said "I don't think our identity is important compared to other qualities and I personally don't have an identity. I'm more interested in ideas." I'll never forget the look of shock on the (female) professor's face. It was as if I had uttered the most profane heresy possible. She probably thought I was just a "privileged white male" who lacked any sensitivity or respect for other races, cultures, and "lived experiences" that differed from my own, but she would have been dead wrong. That professor never spoke to me again and side-eyed me whenever we passed each other in the halls for years afterward. That was my very first exposure to what we now called "identity politics," where gender and skin color are more important than what you have to say or what you can do with your talents, and not only was I completely allergic to it, I stood up to it as best I could in that moment, and I was cancelled by that one professor as a result.

[@rufusconnolly8489]

@@pak47man was just a bad joke, I guess. Seemed like it would the kinda work. I mostly just wanted to show some sympathy for having to go through what must have seemed like the progress of fascism through the universities

[@nestorbrown4718]

You know John, Donald Trump has as much right as Glenn’s uncle to speak with emphatic disdain about the grifting Hussein.

[@mrRambleGamble]

Exactly. They both make the point that Obama is putting on the Black American experience but he doesn't represent it. Same with Kamala. Why aren't FBA/ADOS promoted in the party?

[@globalspiritualrevolutionmedia]

Absolutely love your YT page! Love the background music!

[@757History]

52:42-55:09 Really loved Glenn's response here! Great conversation as usual, full of insights. Thank you, Glenn and John.

[@playapapapa23]

76! Glenn looks and sound great. Let’s hope for at least 20 more years.

[@fordjubilee]

A conversation. Imagine Kamala sitting down and doing this. No script, no pauses, 2 hour pod cast. I know Trump would...so that begs the question why not Harris?

[@busyb8676]

As a Democrat who was horrified by the Republican neocons who took us to wars in the Middle East, I was horrified by the lack of diplomacy to avoid the Ukrainian War. The blatant support for Netanyahus genocide against the Palestinians was also horrific . It could have been stopped. None of this is joyful to one concerned about the survival of humanity!

[@Unkuuu]

That opening clip is POWERFUL!

[@scsmith4604]

I always enjoy the discourse between Glen and John.

[@mikelogan3816]

Thank you glenn For so eloquently stating what I have been thinking ever since she got the coronation

[@ciscornBIG]

That intro was GREAT! It is a real pleasure and a joy to see you doing better, Mr. Loury. It is so heartening for me to hear you like this again. God Bless you, sir.

[@christinavance1128]

I loved what he said about President Carter 🤔was such a wonderful president that he sold our Panama Canal to China for a 1$ 🤬🤬so now China receives that money from the cargo ships🤬🤬

[@christinavance1128]

I loved what he said about President Carter 🤔was such a wonderful president that he sold our Panama Canal to China for a 1$ 🤬🤬so now China receives that money from the cargo ships🤬🤬

[@dangerjones6]

John is right there are probably 3 things that RFK Jr. could join Kamala Harris on, the only problem is they didn't want to talk to him, so RFK Jr. found 3 things Trump would work with him on. That simple.

[@scotshaver5947]

Which is interesting because john said he’s just an asshole that would drive in front of you cause he can. When actually that is exactly what the Democratic Party did to him. They drove in front of him and said fuck you. But John wants him to do the larger thing.. because orange man bad. So far off in his analysis on this it’s shocking. Probably hasn’t even listened to RFKs drop out/trump endorsement speech, Tucker interview, etc. TDS has run rampant in John’s brain.

[@theresamorgavi9196]

Thank you for speaking the truth!!!

[@jonathans9427]

“Who’s running the country? Who are these people, these shadowy forces?” ~ Glenn Loury “That, detective, is the right question.” ~ I, Robot

[@danneeley7248]

Grateful for their wisdom and their opportunity to speak truth

[@christinehill1038]

The larger thing is to support free and fair elections. John is coming off here as an autocrat who has no idea about political theory or how our country is supposed to function. There's no more important issue than free speech because it undergirds everything from our basic human dignity to why we are so innovative.

[@sortathesame8701]

It wasn’t about changing minds, it was about raising money…period.

[@TrentSLucas]

38:00 the party of COVID lockdowns censorship, and lawfare talking about freedom is nauseating!

[@MachoLibre-u1w]

RFK did reach out to the Harris campaign

[@gdavidelliott]

Right, they had no interest in working together or hearing what he had to say. They've done everything they can to silence him for the last 4 years.

[@richardramsey9352]

thankful for such a forum, but I think a little unfair to Kennedy's motives given what he has been working toward for decades and how he was constantly sued by his own party for wanting to be a part of the democratic process

[@soniasparhawk1013]

Love love love these types of conversations! Keep up the good work gentlemen you both are brilliant. 🇺🇸❤️🤍💙 🇺🇸

[@CarolynGrimm]

Thank you for what you do, Mr. loury.

[@megg.6651]

JOHN, RFK is about the ONLY politician who is actually sticking to his values - along with Tulsi Gabbard.

[@fern10011]

Happy birthday Glenn! You’re wrong about Trump but I still like you! ❤

[@kathyhagan8444]

You don’t “give freedom” I am free - you can only take my freedom

[@piper3032]

🎯🎯🎯💯‼️

[@silentmentor5888]

Okay John again......tell us exactly what Trump has done to make him so hated. Be specific. If you don't then you join the pile of those that also can't name anything at all. Go ahead we are listening. If you can name something, you will be the first!

[@icjulia2]

John writes for the New York Times. His brain is fried with TDS.

[@Downerhill]

I used to think “TDS” was an overstatement… but it is real. It’s also how politics has become such a religion to so many people.. tenets, dogma, and myopic beliefs.. whatever side one may embrace.

[@beccamoore5372]

You can definitely see the TDS in Glenn and John!

[@jdankerdake]

I felt it when AOC called Trump a “Two-bit Union-Buster.” I felt it when Hilary talked about the glass ceiling being broken. I felt it so much when Barrack Obama gave his speech that I forgot that it was Harris who was running for president.

[@literatious308]

Feelings won’t put food on the table, gas in your car, nor a roof over your head.

[@icjulia2]

The union workers have endorsed Trump.

[@jdankerdake]

@@literatious308 But the $6,000 child tax credit, preservation of the Affordable Care Act, and $25,000 down payment assistance will help keep millions of households solvent and make the American dream of homeownership more accessible for middle and working class folk.