Glinda the "Good" Witch is a jerk

What a great message for children to learn lol

[@genevadavidson5696]

Wait a minute..... first Glinda asks "are you a good witch or a bad witch?" Then she says "only bad witches are ugly". Which means she can't decide if Dorothy is passable or not. Pretty judgmental there, aren't we, Glinda? Dorothy should have retorted "Then you must be a Very Bad Witch!!!".

[@HaoSci]

I guess Glinda doesn't know Dorthy is beautiful or not.

[@anjanettecelia3282]

Yur a dumbass. Shhee sayyed -"only"- "bad" witches "are ugly"... -_-

[@INOBT100]

Yeah, it's like: If she's the good one, we wouldn't like to see the wicked one

[@LuisGarzaHo]

Hahahaha that's right

[@MaskedMan66]

Or maybe she suspects that Dorothy may be a bad witch in disguise; they are known to do that.

[@vedji1857]

"Only Bad witches are Ugly" "Are you A good Witch or a bad witch?

[@johnwesson2759]

"Only bad witches are ugly" = Ugly --> Bad witch This doesn't mean that if you are not ugly you are not a witch.

[@HaoSci]

Only bad witches are ugly means if you're a witch and ugly, then you are a bad witch. The reverse is not true; if you're only ugly, but you might not be a witch in the first place. Another example: all women are humans, but not humans are women.

[@HaoSci]

Glinda the good witch doesn't know if Dorthy is beautiful or not.

[@shortbean0]

WELL IF I WERE A BAD WITCH, I WOULDN'T BE SITTIN' HERE, DISCUSSING IT WITH YA, NOW WOULD I?

[@Cedricfollyman]

That passive aggressive bitch! 😂

[@NateSean]

In fairness, she didn't identify herself as the "good" witch. She simply fed on Dorothy's naiveté.

[@MaskedMan66]

She didn't need to; it was rather obvious.

[@misscolor9739]

She heavily implied it as she knows that she's beautiful and she states that only bad witches are ugly

[@TheElectricTawker]

@@misscolor9739 the twist is she is not that good looking herself

[@dawnthenightlightfury1195]

@@TheElectricTawker I mean she’s white and (sorta) blonde so considering the historical context I suppose that’s all they really thought about when classifying “beautiful” people, didn’t really need to think whether they actually were good looking or not Idk when exactly this was released though so correct me if I’m wrong

[@CrocoDylianVT]

​@@dawnthenightlightfury1195it's from the 40's

[@jbro8934]

To be truthful Glinda scares me more than The Wicked Witch.

[@jackthebeenstock2852]

y?

[@juicebox7372]

I thought i was the only one!

[@MaskedMan66]

Why? Are you also afraid of Gandalf?

[@glendakillough6726]

She should.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@glendakillough6726 No reason why.

[@annakimborahpa]

Glinda gives the appearance of being ditzy but she is actually quite shrewd in attempting to discern Dorothy's knowledge of Oz with her question. Glinda knew all along the secret of the ruby red slippers, but withheld it from Dorothy until after she had proved her character. Dorothy accomplished this by protecting Toto and befriending the Scarecrow, the Tin Woodsman, and the Lion as they persevered in their trials journeying to see the Wizard. Glinda's strategy of carrot and stick won out over rival Wicked Witch of the West's game of cat and mouse.

[@NateSean]

Alternatively, Glinda isn't powerful enough to kill the Witch of the West and was waiting until Dorothy did the deed for her.

[@NateSean]

***** Absolutely. Granted, we never learn Glinda's true motives, but all of the events of the movie lead up to Dorothy being nothing more than a chess piece. A promoted pawn at best.

[@4udio_Vortex]

But then we snap back to reality and realize this was all a construct of Dorothy's psychotic mind, which tells us what, exactly?

[@theofficialVEVOformu]

Nathanielle Crawford yes she is in the books Glinda is the most powerful witch in all of oz, and she controlled water She could have killed the wicked witch in seconds

[@KidVarsityy]

You all are missing the key point here. She used Dorothy to do her "bidding" Because she needed a front woman to take out the witch. Every mind needs a muscle. To do so herself forcefully would look DICTATORIAL!!!! And that's a very wise plan if you are ruling over munchkin land. Good👍 for you Glenda! 🙌😎💃👊🌟😜🌺 So yes Dorothy of course was her puppet and her goal was successfully completed👌💯. But Glenda is far from weak. She is logical, unemotional, and pragmatic with a ruler ship mentality... Those are the traits you all seek in your overlords. Right? Just how is that "evil" ? I Even saw comments of other KZbinrs calling her Psychopathic. Close! Glenda is more of a Sociopath by today's standards but hey not all sociopaths are malicious out of spite. They see the big picture, future thinking and do what is "necessary". They are your CEO's, Managers, some are presidents.. Etc. The Elites no this and they want to put a negative spin on those attributes because they need more Slaves vs. Ruler ship personas challenging their system. Which is faulty anyway. Thanks for reading 📖👊😎🌹

[@Sorakeyblademaster37]

She said "only" bad witches are ugly, _not_ "all" bad witches are ugly.

[@Ardjano234]

well then she would have said "can be ugly"

[@MaskedMan66]

It was implicit.

[@Sorakeyblademaster37]

On oversight from the screenwriter? Or maybe Glinda realized she answered her own question.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@Sorakeyblademaster37 The movie credits three screenwriters, but actually, over twenty people worked on the script.

[@Sorakeyblademaster37]

MaskedMan66 Interesting. Never knew that. It’s amazing the movie turned out so well with that many screenwriters.

[@sari0009]

In the Land of Oz. while only bad witches are ugly, it's not said that all bad witches are ugly. Therefore, Glinda is not necessarily a jerk.

[@pamjam098]

Ummm ok then.

[@MaskedMan66]

It's implicit that all of them are; and let's face it, having seen both the WWE and the WWW, if they're any examples, it applies to all evil witches.

[@DJ.Generation]

She’s a bad witch too

[@Bluejeans0701]

When I saw Billie Burke playing Glinda for the first time back in 1986, I believed she was around 30 or so. Never did I realize that she was already 54! She looks really beautiful in this clip.

[@MaskedMan66]

She was a gorgeous and well-preserved woman.

[@cheneethompson5756]

When I learned she was 54 in this movie, I was like, "wtf??" She looks amazing!

[@DanaDikaiosyne]

She doesn't look 30 at all, sorry. Only maybe from the perspective of a teenager. Or if you live in the UK, then it's understandable.

[@havana_gaming7827]

⁠@@DanaDikaiosyneWhen i first saw this i was 10 so and i dont live in the uk and i still thought she looked really beautiful

[@havana_gaming7827]

⁠@@DanaDikaiosyneWhen i first saw this i was 10 so and i dont live in the uk and i still thought she looked really beautiful

[@PrettywBrains]

Glinda was a good witch (spiritual being). She was called after the accident happened and came to help Dorothy. When she says that only bad witches are ugly, she is referring to the ones ugly spirits which make.them ugly on the outside as well. Haven't you ever heard an older person say, stop acting ugly or that your attitude makes you look not so good? Your inward man shows through your exterior. She could've taken the Ruby slippers for herself, as she knew the powers they held, but she gave them to Dorothy, seizing them from the wicked witch of the West who thought she deserved them. The wicked witch of the West did not want Dorothy to have that power because she loved having all of the power and using it against others. The witch of the North sent Dorothy on her way, giving her a seal of protection, a kiss on the forehead. She knew when meeting Dorothy that she was the chosen one, the one who was purposed to put the wicked witch of the West in her place, while showing others their strengths and learning of herself and abilities. The Witch of the South could have done everything with the wave of a wand, but she wanted to allow purpose to be carried out. She wanted to see Dorothy walk in her purpose.

[@MaskedMan66]

Well said!

[@SweetOrangeGirl]

This comment should be liked many times.

[@PrettywBrains]

@@SweetOrangeGirl Thanks. I analyze everything. That's why I'm in the field of science and medicine.

[@DrCuriensapprentice]

Glinda is a bit Sadistic she is basically joyfull over someone dying and she taunts the next of kin.

[@jonimitchell9812]

isn't that wonderful?

[@Sorakeyblademaster37]

Well they're both incredibly evil tyrants. I'd probably say worse than that. Hell, I may just outright get rid of the Wicked Witch myself since she's powerless, unless it's illegal.

[@MaskedMan66]

All Munchkinland is joyful over the Eastern dictator's death. And in truth, so is the WWW; the only thing she's annoyed by is losing out on getting the power in the shoes.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@Sorakeyblademaster37 She wasn't powerless; when Glinda said the WWW had no power in Munchkinland, she more likely meant authority.

[@Sorakeyblademaster37]

MaskedMan66 Thanks for pointing that out. Though the witches might still might be weaker outside their own territory.

[@robg5209]

Wow, Glinda was 55 years old here.

[@MaskedMan66]

Billie Burke was. Glinda is centuries old.

[@edgregory1]

Oz was a world of harsh realities. Glinda had to watch her own back and be strong. She put on a pleasant face for the young Kansan.

[@MaskedMan66]

Glinda is the most powerful magic worker in Oz, more powerful even than Princess Ozma. She's no need to "watch her back."

[@stopperzapper]

"Only bad witches are ugly" a few sentences earlier "Are you a good witch, or a bad witch?" Basically insulting dorothy's appearance. Glinda also sets Dorothy off on the journey to find the Wizard so she can go home, only to eventually, in the end, be the one to explain to Dorothy that the Ruby Slippers have the power to send her home and tells her how to use them. She only wanted Dorothy to get into a scrape with the other Wicked Witch and off her, eliminate the competition. Glinda is scary.

[@MaskedMan66]

*smh* Blah, blah, blah. Listen to the dialogue: "So what the Munchkins want to know is, are you a good witch or a bad witch?" THE MUNCHKINS wanted to know. For all they knew, Dorothy could have been an evil Witch in disguise. As we know (those of us who have actually watched the movie) Dorothy would not have been ready for the information as regards the shoes, nor learned the lesson she had to learn, nor uncovered the deceptions of the Wizard (and it was he, not Glinda, who wanted the WWW destroyed), nor freed her three friends from their personal prisons. And also, for pity's sake, remember that the whole thing was taking place in Dorothy's subconscious. Glinda has no existence apart from Dorothy's dream, at leat in this version of the story.

[@manyhumbles]

"ugly" - meaning the nature of their character. Literal minds with superficial intepretations will always find something wrong with the picture because it can't interpret the deeper meaning.

[@cintrik]

"ugly" - meaning the nature of their character. For sure, but not in the context that it was used. You crazy!!!

[@InduCute]

Yeah this woman was pretty ugly

[@imbuffysummers]

Isn’t is ugly to tell a girl to take a pair of shoes that will cause a supposedly wicked and vengeful woman to go after her when all she ever wanted was to go home the knowledge to which Glinda had the entire time?

[@MaskedMan66]

@@imbuffysummers No, because Glinda looked out for Dorothy's well-being along the way, having given her a kiss of protection. She also, as you may recall, killed the deadly poppies.

[@queenofhearts9024]

She mean with only Bad witches are ugly That every Bad witch is ugly but doesn't mean every ugly person is bad

[@bronxsushi2]

Glinda the (so called) "Good" Witch caused Dorothy's house to kill the Wicked Witch of the East. Then Glinda guides Dorothy to kill the Wicked Witch of the West. Only after Dorothy finishes her Witch "Killing spree", then suddenly Glinda remembers to teill Dorothy about the Ruby Slippers, so Dorothy can leave Oz and Glinda can be the TOP Witch in ALL OF OZ.

[@NeonPegasus1979]

The Wicked Witch of the West wanted to get revenge for the death of her sister, the Wicked Witch of the East, the same witch from The Lion of Oz, and wanted to take the Flower of Oz so that she could rule all of Oz. It was clear that the Wicked Witch of the West had to be stopped. Otherwise, she would've conquered all of Oz (or destroyed it while trying to get revenge). Dorothy didn't even want to kill the witch, she only wanted the broom to bring to Oz, and didn't know that water would kill the witch.

[@MuttonfudgeRacing]

bronxsushi2 You read way too much into nothingness.The story was straight forward in itself.Get a life.

[@TheTruePhoenixxx]

I love your take on this. Glinda = gangsta

[@juicebox7372]

She never said that she was a good witch either.

[@MaskedMan66]

Where are you getting this twaddle? Uncle Henry's house falling on the WWE was an accident, plain and simple; Glinda wasn't even there when it happened, or didn't you notice? And it's THE WIZARD who sends Dorothy to kill the WWW, not Glinda, or didn't you notice? Dorothy had some learning and growing to do, and after all, if she hadn't gone on her journey, the WWW would still be dictator of the Winkies, the Wizard would still be running his con game, and the three companions would have stayed stuck in their prisons.

[@musicaltheatrefan2k226]

0:04 after Dorothy leaves: Oh, Nessa. 😭

[@HaoSci]

I guess Glinda doesn't know Dorthy is ugly or not. Otherwise, Glinda would have known that she's beautiful, therefore, she's not a bad witch. And clearly, Glinda thinks Dorthy, because Dorthy has performed some sort of magic.

[@MaskedMan66]

For all Glinda knew, Dorothy could have been an evil witch in disguise.

[@bonniestar4707]

This is my theory. Dorothy did NOT dream this, but Glinda used her magic to make her THINK she dreamt it all and took away the slippers also when Dorothy had returned. Glinda did use Dorothy so she would be a pawn so that Dorothy would be the only ruler. She probably KNEW the Wizard was a fake and that he would send her away to kill the West Witch so she would possibly die and that he wouldn't be found out, but I think Glinda was also secretly on the sidelines protecting her in the merry dance she sent her on (she did get them out of the funk in the poppy field) Glinda had her plan and saw her opportunity and took it. It was a quest for power but it was also to protect the Munchkins too

[@MaskedMan66]

Nope. It was all a dream; as the MGM bigwigs ordered, it had to be a dream. That was why five characters who were not in the book were put into the movie to provide Dorothy's mind with templates for some of the people she would meet in Oz; also bear in mind that it was the Wizard, not Glinda, who sent Dorothy and her friends to destroy the WWW. As far as the books are concerned, wherein Oz is real, Glinda only rules the southern Quadling Country. The Tin Woodman is Emperor of the Winkies, Tattypoo, the actual Good Witch of the North, rules the Gillikins, and the rulership of the Munchkins changed hands from King Cheeriobed and Queen Orin to the Scarecrow. Princess Ozma rules all of Oz from the Emerald City.

[@esmereldahipswitch]

Dang

[@coachpill]

It's about being beautiful on the inside! Jeesh, get a clue! Pretty is as Pretty does!

[@Ovo124]

So actually it's a compliment, because if Dorothy were ugly, Glinda would have known for sure Dorothy was a bad witch

[@MaskedMan66]

Exactly; and besides, for all she knew, Dorothy could have been a bad witch in disguise.

[@rcanims7121]

The way she said *Ugleh* makes me laugh so hard

[@MaskedMan66]

You got a problem with an English accent?

[@KidVarsityy]

You all are missing the key point here. She used Dorothy to do her "bidding" Because she needed a front woman to take out the witch. Every mind needs a muscle. To do so herself forcefully would look DICTATORIAL!!!! And yes that's a very wise strategic plan if you are ruling over munchkin land. Fantastic work fantastic Glenda! 🌟🌟🌟 So yes Dorothy of course was her puppet and her goal was successfully completed👌💯. But Glenda is far from weak. She is logical, unemotional, and pragmatic with a ruler ship mentality... Those are the traits you all seek in your overlords. Right? Just how is that "evil" ? I Even saw comments of other KZbinrs calling her Psychopathic. Close! Glenda is more of a Sociopath by today's standards but hey not all sociopaths are malicious out of spite. They see the big picture, future thinking and do what is "necessary". They are your CEO's, Managers, some are presidents.. Etc. The Elites know this and they want to put a negative spin on those attributes (psychopath, sociopath etc) because they need more Slaves vs. Ruler ship personas challenging their system. Which is by the way faulty anyway. Thanks for reading 📖👊😎🌹

[@MaskedMan66]

Her name is Glinda, not "Glenda." It was the Wizard who sent Dorothy to kill the WWW. Glinda's realm is not the Munchkin Territory. Glinda is certainly not unemotional.

[@darrenpat182]

it's so ironic that in life usually the good people are usually ugly and the bad people are pretty.

[@MidnightTheKitten]

Assuming people are mean because they're pretty is just as bad as assuming people are mean because they're ugly.

[@MaskedMan66]

Except that that isn't the case.

[@darrenpat182]

@@MidnightTheKitten hence I said "usually"

[@MidnightTheKitten]

@@MaskedMan66 Exactly.

[@MidnightTheKitten]

@@darrenpat182 That doesn't change the fact that you were assuming. Saying "usually" is still making an assumption based purely on looks.

[@dorianrivas7947]

I liked Glinda, and seriously she was NOT a jerk!

[@MuttonfudgeRacing]

Anime Chick Yeah.Glinda was good and like Dorothy said. 'beautiful'.

[@mm-gz3hq]

She is unable to tell if Dorothy is ugly or beautiful. Also bitch sends Dorothy on a killing spree of power figures to tell her she had the ability to go home from day one.

[@ChefDuJour78]

Speaker - Glinda was a figment of Dorothy’s imagination, so it would be Dorothy that is twisted. 😜

[@MaskedMan66]

@@mm-gz3hq Glinda was being cautious, since for all she knew, Dorothy was an evil witch in disguise. And *ahem* IT WAS THE WIZARD WHO SENT DOROTHY TO KILL THE WWW, NOT GLINDA.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@Danobeiszadeh No more than Gandalf was "twisted."

[@plsshutupibegkfu]

why did i not realize that that crazy episode in victorious and the scene with cat tori and jade was based off this. it all makes sense now

[@matchedimpedance]

She merely said that only bad witches are ugly. She did not say all bad witches are ugly or that beautiful witches are only good. She obviously thinks Dorothy is not ugly since she needed to ask if she was good or bad. Even so, I can imagine that if this is seen by children with an undeveloped sense of grammar and logic that it may be misunderstood.

[@MaskedMan66]

No, children get it.

[@user-zt2ld1uz8p]

In the book, Glenda and the Good Witch of the North were two different people-

[@MaskedMan66]

"In her portrayal of Glinda, (Billie) Burke projects a benevolent sweetness that exemplifies her character's all-knowing and serene grace. Glinda does not betray Dorothy in negligence by allowing her undue tribulations, which thus circumvents the often raised question, 'Why didn't Glinda tell Dorothy the way to get home right away?' The point is that, in her wisdom, Glinda's clairvoyance foresees the outcome of Dorothy's journey and knows no serious harm will befall her; sans the journey, Dorothy's maturity remains stagnant." -- "The Road to Oz" by Jay Scarfone and William Stillman

[@yummybreath627]

@heaveawayray For all of those with good grammar, here's what he meant. It's like if Dorothy is a murderer, then she's a bad witch. And since bad witches are ugly, then Dorothy must be ugly.

[@MaskedMan66]

You've got it all mixed up.

[@Demonslayer232]

If you think about it, Glinda is actually one of the least sensitive characters in movie history.

[@MaskedMan66]

If you think about it, you'll realize that that assertion is nonsense.

[@aubreenapier]

I secretly think glinda is a bad witch.....

[@independentpuppy7520]

She was passive aggressive.

[@joshkresnik6402]

The queen of shade

[@MaskedMan66]

How so?

[@VidWatcher01]

@@MaskedMan66 She's seemingly low key telling Dorothy she doesn't think she's pretty but she doesn't think she ugly. Think about it. Why would she ask her if she was a good witch or a bad witch and then state that only bad witches are ugly?

[@MaskedMan66]

@@VidWatcher01 In the first place, if you listen to the dialogue, Glinda is asking on behalf of the Munchkins, not herself; she knows darn well that Dorothy is pretty. In the second place, evil witches, particularly in Oz, sometimes deal in transformations, which, according to the Glinda of the books, are not honest, and therefore not practiced by good witches. You see, for all the Munchkins knew, Dorothy could have been a bad witch in disguise. You'll also recall that Glinda asked if Toto was a witch, the amusement in her voice being quite evident. :-)

[@UserName-xi8rm]

I found it weird that Glinda asked Dorothy if she was a “good witch” or a “bad witch” just think about it for a second

[@MaskedMan66]

Not getting you.

[@benwaters879]

Gotta love Glinda lol

[@MarryXMeXBuryXMe]

This reminds me of JennaMarbles. "LET ME TELL YOU, I'VE BEEN ON THIS EARTH FOR A LONG TIME, AND NOT ONCE HAS AN OLD PERSON TRIED TO FUCK MY SHIT UP!"

[@clarissavazquez3270]

Billie Burke she was beautiful and talent to play the role as glinda the good witch. Stop saying things like that ok I miss her right now please.

[@yuhann3749]

So does that mean I'm a jerk? In my school my 4th grade teacher is doing a play on the wizard of oz. And I'm Glinda........

[@MaskedMan66]

Nope. Glinda is to Oz what Gandalf is to Middle-earth: a guardian and guide who, though very powerful in magic, does not do everything for everybody, and lets them prove themselves and grow and develop.

[@bjbinmke]

Use it.

[@yuhann3749]

@@bjbinmke I'm in 6th grade now 😭 My teacher did something inappropriate to my classmate so yea he's fired we never actually did the play

[@yuhann3749]

@@MaskedMan66 I LOVE YOU 😭 THANK YOU IM SO LATE IN REPLYING THOUGH

[@MaskedMan66]

@@yuhann3749 It's okay! :-) You're welcome! And I hope you get the chance to play Glinda again.

[@VidWatcher01]

So if a witch is average looking does that mean she's neutral?

[@JimmyLeeVanDePutte]

People are nuts. It is an actress doing a line she did not write. PS: That beautiful woman was 54 in this movie and looked stunning at 70!

[@ContraCorners]

Trivia Time!!! Who was older, Billie Burke or Margaret Hamilton (the witch who was "old and ugly'?

[@mommak10]

I love Glinda LOL I'm bubbly just like her. In the words of Kristin Chenoweth, "there's something wrong with that Glinda person" LOL That's true you can tell she's not all there!

[@MaskedMan66]

Sure, the same way Yoda wasn't "all there" when Luke met him in "The Empire Strikes Back." I believe the phrase is, "crazy like a fox."

[@musicaltheatrefan2k226]

Says the one who played her in Wicked

[@amelialeigh4361]

Hey hey hey. Chill I'm Glinda in a play

[@MaskedMan66]

How did it go? I've been the Cowardly Lion myself. :-3

[@amelialeigh4361]

It was really fun , sparkles were all over from my costume 😁

[@youraveragefan6953]

I love the way she says the last line

[@CrocoDylianVT]

People is stretching it too much, it's as simple as the good witch told Dorothy "Girl you a 5"

[@sonceraenielsen484]

she's joyful cause the wicked witch is dead because the wicked witch is friggin evil dude

[@MaskedMan66]

And so are the Munchkins, if you'll remember!

[@melbalbas7111]

she said only "BAD" witches are ugly... not ugly is bad >____>

[@VidWatcher01]

"Are you a good Witch or a bad Witch? But just let you know only bad Witch are ugly so....." Man, Glinda way to through some shade🤨

[@MaskedMan66]

She was asking on behalf of the Munchkins, who had no idea of human beauty.

[@allanh5618]

Glinda is on the side of virtue; which must be earned through hard experience from 'doing the right thing.' Evil is not countered by weaklings, moral or otherwise. She is also engaged in eternal conflict with evil, for which she needs allies, not dependents - and those allies need to be virtuous, else they betray her. She is helping Dorothy become stronger and able to fight for herself, not fighting on Dorothy's behalf. At least, that is what I project on this story.

[@StolasOwl27]

I would find it so funny if a drop dead gorgeous man was the west witch and Glinda would still say "only bad witches are ugly"

[@DestinyHime]

Well, its a nice thought. That you can tell bad and good people apart based on their appearance. But you can't, and they shouldn't mislead kids like that. You made a good point. Thanks for the clip.

[@MaskedMan66]

We're not talking about good and bad people in general, we're talking about good and bad witches in particular.

[@DestinyHime]

Last I checked witches were still people.

[@geandreipablo8603]

Then whyd she ask if she was a bad witch 🧙‍♀️ 🙄

[@rockerdude8289]

That's why I prefer Glinda from "Wicked", "Oz: the Great and Powerful" and OUAT.

[@MaskedMan66]

The first and third things you mention are crap. Not sure what you mean as regards OtGaP.

[@sarapinkdiamond866]

​@@MaskedMan66 i know this comment was 1 year old but you really cannot respect opinions huh? 🙄😑😒

[@MaskedMan66]

@@sarapinkdiamond866 You don't seem to be respecting mine, Pot. --The Kettle

[@MaskedMan66]

@@sarapinkdiamond866 Besides, I only asked for a clarification of Rocker Dude's opinion. I didn't say anything about it.

[@sarapinkdiamond866]

@@MaskedMan66 I'm not gonna even ask what you two's conversation was even about I'm gonna stop replying before I get myself in a stupid argument

[@tesslichtman7302]

If you know the plot of Wicked, then this scene is terrifying. Glinda indirectly killed Nessarose and is currently talking to an unknowing Dorothy in the middle of a crime scene.

[@Fritter_Films]

Heh. “Kinda”.

[@erinkwalsh]

what ever happened to Glinda's costume?

[@xpressvasoftball]

She asks Dorothy if she is a bad witch and then says only bad witches are ugly... hmm...

[@mananexus]

Glinda was two faced

[@MaskedMan66]

No more than Gandalf or Yoda.

[@ingusch3783]

I'm currently writing my master's analyzing this ish of a movie and lemme tell ya, Glinda does not exactly stand the test of time and empowered messages for women.

[@MaskedMan66]

I do hope you looked into the books and the character of Glinda there. Remember that to the American public, to whom the Oz books were an annual event, Glinda was the one who repelled a pretender to the throne of Oz and set in place the rightful heir-- Princess Ozma.

[@ingusch3783]

@@MaskedMan66 I did actually look into the books and made precisely these observations. My main focus was on representations of women as witches in popular movies and tv series, so my comment was referring to movie-Glinda. Book-Glinda is definitely a superior character - I was sad to see what they made of this character for the movie.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@ingusch3783 She's no different in the movie, except which realm she comes from. She is serene, majestic, and protective. She is to Oz what Gandalf was to Middle-earth. To say that she was "manipulative" or "conniving" as some say is them reading into the character things that are not there.

[@ingusch3783]

@@MaskedMan66 idk, I interpreted her behavior in the movie as manipulative at times. and I found that aside from the name and her being beautiful, movie-glinda is a far cry from the powerful, independent witch we meet in the novels. in the books, Glinda helps little girls grow and to assert themselves - in the movie, she teaches a little girl never to leave the safe haven of home again, sending her on the way to become a right angel of the house. But of course, you're entitled to your interpretation, as am I to mine.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@ingusch3783 I don't interpret; I go by what the story says. Glinda is basically to Oz as Gandalf is to Middle-earth, and no more "manipulative" than he is. She's certainly not "dependent" on anyone or anything. And she never told Dorothy not to assert herself-- for one thing, as we saw in her confrontations with Miss Gulch, the Cowardly Lion, and the Wizard, Dorothy had no problem asserting herself!-- nor did she tell Dorothy to never leave home, merely that home is where the heart is. Dorothy's "own back yard" wouldn't always be located behind her uncle's house, this being a Dorothy who had only dreamed about Oz and would presumably grow up and move out at some stage in her life, unlike her literary counterpart, who eventually moved to Oz with her aunt and uncle and thereby brought "home" to Oz.

[@gstone8255]

Well Wicked kind of Runs with this idea. Altough neither Witch is entirely good or bad in that one.

[@Jansci7G]

The worst part is that she says bad witches are ugly right after asking Dorothy if she is one.

[@MaskedMan66]

She was asking on behalf of the Munchkins, not herself.

[@bethgarcia1838]

NESSAA NOOOOO

[@linsqopiring6816]

Teaching that kind of thinking will get kids well on their way to being shallow and prejudice individuals. No wonder civil rights and social justice issues didn't become important till later generations.

[@linsqopiring6816]

@@IbrahimHoldsForth Oh excuse me for being superficial when I criticize the philosophy of if you're beautiful you are good and if you are ugly you are bad.

[@IbrahimHoldsForth]

@@linsqopiring6816 i agree, the scene is just unintentionally funny by today's mores

[@THEdrummer61146]

@TheWicked720 It's a musical! Lol sorry, I'm a stickler :p

[@zeldaideal]

Did you know billie burke who played glinda was 54 when they filmed this? Come on, she does look beautiful. Poor judy didnt live that long, died at 47.

[@URMOMIA1ST]

Thus vid older than me

[@Megatron514]

She asks Dorothy "are you a good witch or bad witch ?" And then tell her " Only bad witch are ugly " Cuz the wicked witches use to be pretty too

[@MaskedMan66]

Please listen to the dialogue. "What the Munchkins want to know..." Glinda already knew what Dorothy was.

[@4udio_Vortex]

Also, Google says Glinda is the "good witch of the south". 🤔

[@daisybradley]

Mike LoPinto some people say she was banished to the north. But it makes sense that there could have once been a witch good/bad in all “directions” so north south east and west

[@MaskedMan66]

In the books, she is, and the Good Witch of the North is a small, sweet old lady called Tattypoo. Glinda doesn't appear in the first book until the second to last chapter. But MGM decided to just use Glinda and put her in the North.

[@MaskedMan66]

@@daisybradley What people?

[@arthurimusprime2177]

Aunque esta sea la mejor pelicula con la peor produccion de toda la historia del cine Dorothy y glinda no paran de excitarme,son la unica razon por la cual me gusta esta pelicula

[@MrsA2801]

As well as what aceyfan said, she asked Dorothy if she was "a good witch or a bad witch" then a few seconds later said "only bad witches are ugly", therefore, she might think Dorothy's somewhat ugly. How rude!

[@MaskedMan66]

No, she's making sure that Dorothy isn't a bad witch in disguise.

[@MrsA2801]

@@MaskedMan66 you might be right!! Hadn't thought of that!

[@MaskedMan66]

@@MrsA2801 A line of Glinda's from the second Oz book: "I never deal in transformations, for they are not honest, and no respectable sorceress likes to make things appear to be what they are not. Only unscrupulous witches use the art."

[@xoxmarioluigixox]

yes lets put every controversial comment into one conversation.

[@glendawatson9468]

im laughing so hard right now, I agree with you!

[@KeepCalmContemplateYourChoices]

She said "Only bad witched are ugly" not "Ugly witches are bad" soooooo.........(Also in Wicked Elphaba isn't that ugly but I'm getting ahead of myself)

[@lurking0death]

Stop dissing Glinda! A witch's karma gets written on her face quickly as she ages. But, they don't get ugly until they are 21. It's a union thing. Dorothy is only 16. Therefore Glinda, and everybody else, does not know if Dorothy is a good witch or bad witch. Let's cut Glinda a little slack, 'ay?

[@PinkBubbleMartini]

True, but I am curious on why Glinda told Dorothy to follow the yellow brick road, wear a dead person’s shoes knowing their sister was pissed about it, and go through all that trouble when she could’ve literally helped go home from the beginning? Still, I had no idea about that. Thanks for sharing such a cool fact and it cleared up some questions I had.

[@independentpuppy7520]

@@PinkBubbleMartini It was learning. "She had to learn it for herself"

[@PinkBubbleMartini]

@@independentpuppy7520 I still don’t get what she learned. When Dorothy ran home during the tornado, that action itself showed me that she realized she took home, and her family, for granted. I interpreted it as more of a set of consequences rather than a learning experience. Edit: Also I wanted to clarify that my stance on Glinda has changed quite a bit since two years ago lol.

[@independentpuppy7520]

@@PinkBubbleMartini She had to learn that this physical world is very difficult. No matter what you wish for you have to learn all that life throws at us by experiences. Both good and bad.

[@PinkBubbleMartini]

@@independentpuppy7520 I think I get it now. “If you continue through life with tunnel vision, you won’t see what’s on your left and right.”

[@user-lv8yt4eh1d]

WAS THAT THE WITCH OF THE NORTH

[@stopperzapper]

And she asked if Dorothy was a bad witch. B'dum tsh.

[@evet45]

Well, as far as thye Govt references- consider the era this Book ( actually a series) was written.

[@MaskedMan66]

The books cover a period from 1900 to 1963, so which particular "era" do you mean?

[@willbell5097]

Glenda is like a fairy godmother with powers to use for good only. She is benevolent and kind. Stop dissing her. I'm protective of Glenda. We need more Glenda in the world.

[@NaturalHealingAlchemist]

💯!! I strongly 🪄 second that emotion!

[@MaskedMan66]

Well said, but her name is not Glenda.

[@booyah344]

all of my likes

[@HyperVentalation]

i think what shes really trying to say is if youre bad, youre ugly, if youre good, youre beautiful regaurdless of physical appearence....like, not all "unattractive" people are bad, but all bad people are unattractive, and vice versa...its understandable, but not as bad as you think

[@CoreyView]

Says bad withches are ugly. Asks Dorothy if she's a bad witch.

[@ashleyskeans1994]

message*

[@tyreejosey8774]

I use to watch the black wiz with Michael Jackson in it

[@MaskedMan66]

I still do sometimes. Very good movie.

[@juliawinkler438]

Well you're correct it was rude, but at the same time it;s honesty because I do have a axe to grind with organized religion and I'm not alone. When they worry about the feelings of people they judge, then by gosh I might consider theirs, also their little Sunday feel good social groups have done more then hurt feelings. On this subject I'm not very nice at all, but then again it's not like the ppl you're worried about ever followed the golden rule among so many others in their book of fairys

[@juliawinkler438]

Reminds me of Santa Claus and Jesus, a lie and a fake

[@FakeOutrage]

She is saying that bad witches can be ugly or beautiful But Good witches can not be ugly.

[@MaskedMan66]

No, she's saying that bad witches are ugly.

[@yeanofullname4283]

I prefer Glinda when she was Galinda in Wicked.

[@MOLLY-fz1xe]

yk- i was wondering if someone comented here in this year- and here you are commenting on this yestarday

[@yeanofullname4283]

Shoot. I should have waited!

[@Eli-yr3rs]

oh accidents happen im sure dorrothy didnt mean to squash nessa lol

[@MaskedMan66]

No "Nessa" there.

[@Puppetgirl93]

Why are people talking about Jesus? This is a movie people not a religious discussion and im respectful whether you are athiest or not that's your choice, So please do me a favor and watch the movie

[@KidVarsityy]

Exactly!!!

[@HamdiSaid-pv5kh]

Who came from the trend!?

[@Ovo124]

The fact that only bad witches are ugly, doesn't mean that ALL bad witches are ugly. It's like saying: "all cats (ugly witches) are animals (bad). But being an animal (bad witch) doesn't mean you're a cat (ugly)."

[@brblan21]

No the point is that she said only bad witches are ugly yet she asked Dorothy if she was a bad witch or a good witch lol

[@randompersonthatexists123]

bad witches can be "ugly" or "beautiful" good witches can only be "beautiful"

[@AnythingButAverage13]

Wait what if your an old, beautiful witch? Or a young, ugly witch? Or a sandwich?

[@stefmayhem]

yea... she's still a witch...hello

[@MaskedMan66]

Your point?

[@stefmayhem]

MaskedMan66 no idea I commented 8 years ago.

[@oreodeaflove3129]

Wow

[@onewordhereonewordthere6975]

a while back in 2015 I got chicken little syndrome in the days that followed I looked up who wrote Chicken Little it wasn't easy it took a while Google didn't want to give me the answer Chicken Little The Boy Who Cried Wolf Etc etc was written at the same time in every language by the same author . The boy Who Cried Wolf was the wolf and the irony of all irony's the sky will fall. Casting a spell it must first be pleasing to it's prey , almost a code of honor? Vampires must be let in the home. O No! You have to imagine , what is it that gives it the most power munchkins are easy to Kill ! Think of it as seasoning ,salt and pepper on a piece of meat. The vibration of all the souls that when it is too late find out who's behind the curtain and it isn't in the movies and ' The author of all the children's Fables also was the author of happy is the one that dashes your little ones against the stones ! Psalms 137 verse 9. If ten % of what I've seen is true? O SHHH

[@officialcringe-3724]

Eunleh bad witches er egle

[@1978STREATOR]

hmm so I guess some people don't understand that a person can be beautiful on the outsde but ugly inside.....any fool should understand this.

[@sunflowers2469]

this was a children's film tho

[@MaskedMan66]

@@sunflowers2469 Your point?

[@gilliangirl1]

I don't get your point? This is an analogy of the old standard 'good vs evil'. I choose good. Evil IS ugly.

[@therealafdhal3784]

more like she is a fairy ;-;

[@katrinalazaro7707]

Didn't she say, then why did you ask me if I was a bad witch? Cause glinda said only bad witches are ugly