Glitter Conspiracy Theories - SimplyPodLogical #30

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On this episode of SimplyPodLogical, Cristine and Ben talk about the secretive glitter industry, conspiracy theories about the mystery biggest buyer of glitter, and what other conspiracy theories Cristine and Ben believe.
0:00 - Hey what’s up holo everyone
0:45 - What Cristine really thinks about conspiracy theories
4:02 - What is the glitter industry hiding?
12:20 - Toothpaste
16:10 - The military
18:33 - Shampoo
21:57 - Candy wrappers
25:00 - Fake sand
26:41 - Money
30:00 - Boat paint
37:47 - Cristine never believed in the tooth fairy
39:08 - Conspiracy theories Ben is interested in
39:23 - Companies providing our DNA to the government
42:29 - Does the government want you to know about oats?
43:11 - The moon landing
48:14 - Teddy Fresh
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[@alexandrahuemer9145]

Just give Ben his drama channel, he doesn't even have to say any names to roast people

[@hannahbanana8073]

It's what he was born to do! I didn't even notice the hoodie until I went to the comments. He's gotta get that subtle shade in.

[@valeriedrzewiecki663]

He just has to wear a sweater 🤣

[@cool876cea]

Bet you he already runs one anonymously

[@alyssaputnam263]

Right???

[@yaminogame7805]

omg i was wondering if anyone was going to talk about the Teddy Fresh hoodie lmao.

[@vickyazabal3038]

So basically Ben and Cristine arguing for an hour about the difference of glitter and shimmer.

[@rochelle1117]

And Ben being so very confidently wrong.

[@kayenjee]

The most we've ever seen them argue 🤣

[@brittanymao4775]

Isn't shimmer a pigment and glitter is plastic?

[@user-om9od1sp7n]

@@brittanymao4775 I think glitter is made out of Mica, which is something found in dirt and is very dangerous to get. I'm not sure so don't quote me on it but I'm pretty sure I heard it in a documentary before...💌 (EDIT: I said glitter but I meant shimmer 😂😅)

[@campurriana]

The type of shimmer Cristine describes for the shampoo for example is most probably mika. Mika is a mineral, it's completely safe for cosmetics but is known for the use of child labor. The question about mika is if it's ethically sourced. Glitter is what Cristine says and it's made of plastic (there's also biodegradable glitter but is not that common).

[@GirlyBitsCosmetics]

Glitter vs. Shimmer: Glitter is made of plastic sheets (other than the newer biodegradable glitter which is made from a plant based cellulose) and is cut (not ground up) into the shapes no matter how small. The type of shimmer you are talking about is synthetic fluorophylogopite which is the mostly clear/white looking shimmer that is very fine and smooth but VERY sparkly and usually reflects a full spectrum of colours. It can look like glitter but its not. Mica is also a shimmer but it's more often a coloured product, so I think you are referring to fluorophylogopite based on your description. I think the biggest industry for glitter is either for money, or car/boat paint. Car paint is (unfairly) labeled a manly or macho thing, and some guys wouldn't want to admit it's FULL of glitter.

[@clairewillow6475]

Such a good comment

[@clairewillow6475]

I thought of money as well

[@Clary1517]

Also minerals like titanium dioxide, zinc dioxide, and some silicones are also used to create shimmer finnishes

[@dexa6623]

Yeah, I was thinking cars but also thinking "but that's so obvious" and forgot about the toxic bs.

[@mmmmmmolly]

I thought if car paint right away. I didn't think about money but it makes sense.

[@jennigthatonecrazydoglady8100]

50 minutes of me trying to scream “MICA” through space and time in order to contribute to this conversation

[@amandayoung8049]

My inner voice is so hoarse from screaming Mica! Also Fluorphlogopite which is silicate. Both of them are not plastic and are shimmer!!!

[@marss0754]

Same xD

[@TottoriInIowa]

oh my god, i'm so glad i'm not the only one!

[@zosmavideos4891]

yeah synthetic mica most likely since it's used in cosmetics, paints, and like Ben said, money. One of the dice companies I follow had to chance their glitter because all of the old glitter goes towards the holo in euro bills nowadays

[@kaiangelpsiren3724]

Same though. I make soap and know the "shimmer" she's talking about.

[@gomonkeyfly]

new rule: cristine is allowed to google her answer when she's stuck

[@ocineulb2842]

BEYYNNNN!!! TEFLON!!!!! For real, take a look at it, it sparkles, but doesn't explicitly look like glitter.And people would certainly not be pleased to find out that is what they are cooking on. I am obsessed with knowing the answer to this conspiracy theory and this is the most plausible answer that I have come across. Also the only other conspiracy I care to even remotely entertain is the moon landing...so like hit me up if things don't work out or whatever, ;)

[@faec.8950]

THIS!! it was killing me that she couldn't google like ahhhh 🤣🤣

[@Palitato]

@@ocineulb2842 Just FYI, If you ever have pet birds, don't cook with Teflon pans. You will kill your birds.

[@christianalynn4531]

@@Palitato I thought you can cook with them, just dont preheat them without anything in it

[@Palitato]

@@christianalynn4531 nope. Shouldnt use them at all around birds. My mom doesnt even let Teflon in the house w/her parrot.

[@jsharp5630]

When referring to shimmer vs. glitter in the cosmetic industry, shimmer effects are most commonly achieved by Mica along with organic and inorganic pigments. Including (but not limited to) Titanium Dioxide, Tin Oxide, Manganese Violet and/or Ultramarine. Glitter on the other hand is most often associated with Plastics. With glitters being made from Polyethylene and pigments. However, biodegradable glitters are becoming more common due to the environmental impact of micro plastics. These biodegradable glitters tend to be made from materials such as synthetic fluorphlogopite, mica and other pigments. Hope that clarifies things. 😊

[@erinkelley7104]

I was practically yelling mica watching this!

[@pleadthefifth]

Erin Kelley same! It’s pretty weird that mica didn’t come to Cristine because she makes nail polish and mica is a huge part of making polish pigments.

[@jessicamccloskey8190]

Came to the comments knowing someone could answer. Am not disappointed!

[@TerryMoon]

came back to the vid to look for clarification on this matter. tysm!

[@marissalovesart]

Also, ground up pearls.

[@elizabethstormont645]

I feel like Tiffany and Co or something is the biggest buyer. High end jewelry but it really has some cheap materials. Industry secret maybe?

[@clairevanstolk7903]

That seems the most plausible to me

[@Dazyet]

Def came to my mind

[@kiiimiko]

I was definitely thinking jewelry or diamonds

[@msjg27]

stupid me immediately thought of food, i was like: do they literally make us eat glitter and not tell us?!?!?!? but yours totally make sense 😂

[@elizabethstormont645]

@@msjg27 I love that

[@watchmewalk5125]

I wonder if it was Quartz countertops. I literally see silver glitter in my expensive quartz countertop. so now I'm just assuming all sparkly bits I see in quartz countertops are just straight up either glitter or iridescent glitter flakes.

[@tourmii]

:O

[@madammim2436]

I was thinking the home industry in general for just that reason

[@harmoni6399]

Wait I love this idea !

[@Violin_Viola_Music_Box]

Oh that would piss off some many people!!! Yep I buy this one.

[@ariellelillian8644]

I have always felt like it was! I mean that stuff is downright iridescent!

[@BlueberryHillSoaps]

alternate title: Ben struggles to accept that shimmer is not glitter for nearly an hour.

[@brodieclapperton-craig898]

Cristine needs to get out her Science Queen microscope and show Ben the difference

[@rhih1447]

This was actually kinda bugging me xD as a baker, there is 100% a difference between shimmer and glitter and its like... ACCEPT IT BENNNN

[@Aila8]

Glitter=cut sheets of plastic Shimmer= mica (look it up, it’s a shimmery rock or a synthetic version) Flakes = foil shards like flaky holo toco

[@andre_garay]

To be honest it was a bit annoying seeing Ben so stubborn trying to explain something that Cristine LITERALLY knows about. Would that be mansplaining? Idk but Cristine has videos were she uses both glitters and shimmers, so she clearly knows they’re not the same. 🤡

[@lisamo1013]

@@andre_garay do you think a journalist with unknown amount of interest in glittery nail polish would necessarily make that distinction? Or a company representative would pick that specific fact to highlight when she isn't allowed to actually say any detail about how it is produced (I assume glitter and shimmer are produced differently)? I think she was the one being stubborn by assuming that despite the information being passed on through at least a couple people and starting in a way more diverse industry than hers, that the definition for glitter is the same as the one she is used to. I absolutely don't doubt that she knows her nail polish stuff but that doesn't mean that she knows everything. And especially when the info is: you wouldn't know that it is glitter, then thinking a bit outside the box wouldn't hurt. But either way, it's a silly topic so let's not get too serious about this.

[@gambaguccijulia]

Cristine:I don’t like conspiracies Ben: it’s about glitter Cristine:Pulls her glasses (4:10)

[@starsxmoonxclouds]

In reference to the military discussion, Ben is absolutely correct that "glitter"/shiny debris is commonly used to distract radar or radar-guided missiles. This is called chaff. Cristine is also correct that there are more technological radar-jammers, etc, but from my time working in the defense contracting space, physical clouds of aluminum or reflective plastic are still used. You can read generally about it on Wikipedia: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaff_(countermeasure)

[@nicolecelestino8615]

That’s actually kinda cool

[@jalisaalanaye1662]

Very interesting, thank you !

[@marialooksaround]

I read the article and OMFG, how horrible that this shit just… FLIES THROUGH THE AIR or is being released INTO WATER DIRECTLY?? People are crazy. We are all one species, one planet why is there even a need for military 😭😭😭

[@mattmammone2338]

The Royal Air Force used it and it scared the shit out of some occupied civilians along the bomber stream.

[@mattmammone2338]

Imagine metallic strips falling in the tons during a raid.

[@stephanietomlinson1545]

I’m not shocked that a statistic analyst doesn’t believe in conspiracy theories. Her job literally revolves around facts 🤣

[@Alexer_Ash]

Yeah but so does ben's, they work on the same level (floor when they were in a building)

[@lisahenry20]

@@Alexer_Ash but Ben also said he doesn't believe them, he just finds them fun to listen to

[@adrianparker6653]

Yeah they are the idiots for not having an open mind

[@spac3jam514]

Shimmer is actually Mica. Which is a mineral. These days there is also plastic Mica. Mica is used in shampoos and also decorative cosmetics - eyeshadows, hightlighters, etc

[@whoopseas]

And is often mined by child labor :'c

[@redheadwitch3460]

Can Ben read this to stop undermining Simply? Thanks 👌

[@Dougiewoof]

@@whoopseas yes. Which is why it's important if you are buying products with mica powder in it or mica powder itself it is important to ensure that is either synthetic or ethically sourced.

[@jariblack]

I have been shouting mica and minerals the entire time 😂 😂 😂 I’m exhausted

[@goofy_gooberism]

Yea, I use mica for my bath bomb shop.

[@sofiaacevedo2371]

I can't believe the episode where there's the most shouting between them is an episodes about glitter conspiracies

[@desireekautz7428]

I’m honestly not really surprised hahahha!

[@Lavilover1019]

Just a note on the moon landing conspiracy: I believe the mythbusters actually did an episode on that and they proved that with the way the lighting and shadows were they'd actually need more advanced technology to fake than they would to actually land on the moon.

[@mowganashwey]

Interesting! Makes me want to go back and rewatch the show haha

[@kerrimulder1264]

Well, actually.... that was an Adam Ruins Everything episode! (Maybe also Mythbusters. But definitely Adam.)

[@NibblesandNails]

I fucking hate this damn conspiracy theory! It’s an insult to the people who accomplished this amazing feat of human ingenuity and my grandfather’s legacy and memory. He was on a team of engineers who worked alongside hundreds of people who made this happen. And geopolitically there was a huge reason for the US to win this leg of the space race. It insults everyone who worked so tirelessly as who died to make this happen. It’s not a “fun one to think about” it’s inane and cruel. You can also use a damn telescope and a laser to see that laser bounce off of a set of mirrors left on the surface. Rant over. TLDR: stop spreading such stupid conspiracy theories about the moon landing it insults the achievement of thousands.

[@b.a.e.4056]

NASA is currently planning on going back to the moon as part of the Artemis program. They consider the moon a better launching point than Earth for a manned mission to Mars which is a later step in the Artemis program.

[@louiseglasgow]

With the boat thing, macho men think of glitter as “girly” and so cars and boats make a lot of sense. Like the guys aren’t thinking of that as glitter, like Ben said, they aren’t thinking about it at all, they are just thinking “nice shiny manly boat”. (Plus the environmental thing Ben said too.) Not saying it is that but that makes a lot of sense to me seeing how many guys react to getting glitter on their skin from a kid of woman in their life.

[@piaaadah]

They also said during the interview that they then went to visit the area for automotive pigments. Maybe that was a clue?

[@samihahashem7580]

I believe glittery boats are used to lure in more fishies!! they are attracted to the shiny glitter haha. But yes, that is something it could be. I was also thinking of those luxury cars that have those pretty pearl-like finishes

[@Mary-mj2px]

I think it's also a pollution thing, so the boat manufacturers don't want to say that the paint has glitter because it puts out microplastics into the ocean

[@piaaadah]

@@Mary-mj2px really good point

[@laneyrigell7665]

yes! that was my 1st thought

[@ginaplopper-norton8839]

Ben: do you know anyone who doesn't brush their teeth?? Me, a dental hygienist: oh my sweet summer child

[@lizalove91]

😬😬😬

[@cuddlingteddybears]

I just had my first cavity ever (I'm 19) and I was like I've done the same thing for years how am I just now getting a cavity 😂

[@ginaplopper-norton8839]

@@cuddlingteddybears every one is different/has different body chemistry, sometimes it just takes longer for things to catch up to people.

[@kaedenpalmer2248]

@@cuddlingteddybears I didn't brush for years other than like the week leading up to going to the dentist and I was always fine until I got my first cavity. After that one, I started brushing and flossing more often but I guess finding that one was just opening up the floodgates because just about every time I go now there's another one that needs filling.

[@laurynhowell3329]

@@kaedenpalmer2248 and you did this...for what?

[@maybeeeyo]

Conspiracy theory: Ben deliberately wore this hoodie because of the James Charles vs H3H3 colorblock hoodie feud 😂

[@carolynskibinski5870]

the timing is just **chef's kiss**

[@OpportunisticOmnivore]

Listen til the end where Ben openly shades JC so hard that Cristine has tell him not to be petty! Haha! Love the subtle shade then very very obvious acknowledgment and confrontation by Ben at the end of the episode! Perfection!

[@InkblotTheExile]

Oh, absolutely. 💛

[@madisonfurr9329]

I CAME LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT 😂

[@AC00009]

Madison Furr Ditto. The minute the video started I was like “That’s THE hoodie!”

[@Stettafire]

16:00 Plenty of glassware has iridescent effects and stuff like that. Really common in fancy high-end glassware. Yeah, you wouldn't want those people to know it's plastic

[@Eli_Skipjack]

I distinctly remember having sparkly toothpaste when I was a kid... It sort of looked like tiny uniform silver glitter specs? That's my input on toothpaste

[@GSutton]

It's definitely toothpaste - both for aesthetics, and for abrasive capabilities. Fun tidbit: that same thing is used in chewing gum.

[@hayhay0129]

Three minutes in and Ben is shading Shane Dawson's Chuck E Cheese conspiracy and wearing a not sisters hoodie🤣🤣💀💀💀 This is gonna be good!!

[@taylorswiftsbloodytampon]

Ben is also silently shading James with the hoodie he is wearing because of the current drama.

[@purrsndplants5444]

Hailee Gerene I just spotted the hoodie!!!

[@NingyoHime98]

I noticed too. Ben is so messy 🤣 but I love it.

[@GoldenMarmotin]

At the end he is just straight up calling out James Charles, we stan

[@ninaasf-ck]

It's the first thing I noticed! 😂

[@TheCristyNicole]

Ben’s hoodie is such a silent shade to James. Edit: Yes, I heard him shade James out loud at the end, I wrote the comment before the video ended.

[@ryanfire4176]

Why?

[@catdragonrose2155]

@@ryanfire4176 because james thinks that he's the one who invented the pastel block jackets when they've been around for decades, and have recently become popular again.

[@margaritadejesusleon3614]

Yk it

[@Kat-cj7qm]

Ben ain't silent when shaming, tho 😹😹😹

[@Rhyron]

@@ryanfire4176 James Charles (or his "team", as he claims) blatantly ripped off this exact design for his new color block collection

[@MadisonGreen14]

The ingredient on those images of luster dust that sticks out the most is silicone dioxide. Silicone dioxide is the atomic base of all quartz minerals, we call them silicates. It’s also what glass is made out of. Mica is a silicate and the common name for muscovite, so it’s probably a highly refined form of mica. Mica is ideal because it forms in extremely thin sheets which are very brittle. They often form in dense, thick, laminated looking formations. It’s a mineral so the atomic structure is ordered in a symmetrical crystalline lattice. Once the mica is ground, it’s reflective because light is bouncing off of and around the atomic structure of the matter. Titanium dioxide is also a mineral, found mostly in island sands off of east coast Australia. So, I think ~shimmers~ are mostly refined versions of naturally occurring minerals, which are NOT organic but mostly inert and safe. SO many variations of silicone dioxide exist and they’re all different and useful in their own ways.

[@kagitsune]

And, importantly, biodegradable!

[@cassidybrewer]

*Mic drop*

[@fleurigloss]

Cristine, deadpan: It's no different than car paint. Ben: *deflates*

[@signalred]

Cristine about like every theory: bUt tHAt'S nOt GLitTeR

[@haritinasakova4327]

I agree with her tho 😂

[@LadyThoopie]

Same, also agree. Her logic makes sense

[@ayellowpapercrown6750]

I don’t know shit about glitter and she didn’t really make sense at all to me. It kind of got old and annoying after two or three times.

[@lolsous]

But what if shimmer is a type of glitter? (No, not all shimmer is mica and glitter are made as small as 0.05 mm, which you would not feel between your fingers.)

[@chronischgeheilt]

Somebody please make me a flowchart of Cristine's 'what is glitter' criteria X-D

[@Dear_Rosey]

Ohhhhh cristine.... “why would the military spend millions on glitter?!” -me a 10 year enlisted member. “Ugh because we spend money on dumb shit all the time” 😂 it’s definitely plausible

[@Stettafire]

I'm thinking the paints used in the manufacturing of a lot of this equipment could contain glitter. No idea though. I do know though, some of the US manufacturing happens abroad. A few companies in the UK supply the US and UK military both.

[@clareang]

GLITTER BOMBSSSS

[@halogirl916]

I wouldn't think twice if I saw glitter every where. Also, the glitter in the paint would be disruptive to radar and probably minimize the radar cross section.

[@PeafrogSims]

But like... if you want a stealth plane, surely you don't want to be able to see them in the sky...(as well as radar etc!) so I think that if you covered it in a reflective material you would just see SKY... So I'm thinking "COULD they cover a plane in silver glitter?!?!"

[@roxypicasso66]

@@clareang LMFAOOO YESSS

[@TopazFire15]

no one tell Cristine about chemistry, she's gonna lose her mind if she finds out things behave differently if you cut them up small enough

[@claudiaarizmendiaguilera7951]

Just thinking the same thing

[@WhoaIhaveNothinghere]

okay same. ochem and biochem got me like: 👁👄👁 🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@Bea_Esser]

OMG I have a very basic understanding of how glitter breaks up light & how that could be used to deflect radar & I was dying when Cristine didn’t understand how that would work.

[@Clary1517]

I'm a chemistry undergrad and I just spent an hour screaming at my phone.

[@jaklin225]

omg wait tell me more this sounds interesting af

[@grace_994]

All this talk about microplastics makes me wonder if they have ever been concerned about the environmental impact of halo taco. I would be interested to hear them talk about it

[@kagitsune]

Since it not washed down the drain, it's probably fine.

[@grace_994]

@@kagitsune This is a good point! I don't know a ton about micro plastics but couldn't a nail peely eventually break down and result in microplastics?--although clearly much less of an impact than a hand soap with beads in it.

[@staciev8917]

I been wondering myself lol. I don't want to be polluting my glitters 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

[@cirice2165]

I would also love to here them speak about this as well!

[@matchybea7994]

I would love to hear them on this too! Me and my mum had a long chat about the environmental impact of my love of nail art, and I keep my peelys so they don’t get thrown out or anything but surely glitter in polish can’t be good for the planet 😔

[@emilyp.6599]

An interesting point brought up -- you actually can feed animals food safe/non-toxic glitter. It's used to track whose poop is whose. So for example, lets say you have multiple animals and one of them is having diarrhea and it's not easy to tell whose poop belongs to who. You can feed each animal a different color glitter to figure out who's having the issue. You can actually do the same "experiment" with non-toxic crayons. It's safe as long as you're not feeding them excessive amounts of the products. This method is especially useful for people who have multiple cats and can't figure out which one has a problem. So Cristine is right that you shouldn't just feed animals glitter for no reason, but if it's necessary, do so with the advice/instructions from your veterinarian. (Source: I'm a vet tech and one of my doctors does this for her own cats when they get sick because she has so many of them)

[@laurac86]

I saw that on the show Secrets of the Zoo! They were putting it in the polar bears food to to get stool samples from each one and know who is who. Pretty ingenious!

[@janekof]

This makes me think it's actually chocolate companies buying glitter.....some chocolates kinda look sparkly....

[@lauratoro1269]

I love how *this* is what they argue about. Not politics, glitter.

[@rubylynn6462]

Ben: “there’s glitter in the ink in American money” Cristine: “yeah but not as much as Canada. Canadian bills’ have way more sparkle.” Me: “okay, Cristine, it’s not a competition. Canada is winning every competition with the U.S.; we really know you guys are better in every way.”

[@ManjeetSingh-tq9nx]

Good one

[@ohifonlyx33]

Except for free speech.

[@MrsGretchen123]

@@ohifonlyx33 pls Google this for a hot minute. It's not true. Alsooo hate isn't free speech

[@ohifonlyx33]

@@MrsGretchen123 The Supreme Courts has definitely settled this in numerous cases. I don't even need to google it. Constitution protects all basic free speech so long as it isn't a direct call to violence (E.G. Maxine Waters telling people to get confrontational on the streets). “The danger of viewpoint discrimination, is that the government is attempting to remove certain ideas or perspectives from a broader debate. That danger is all the greater if the ideas or perspectives are ones a particular audience might think offensive, at least at first hearing. To permit viewpoint discrimination in this context is to permit government censorship.” --Justice Anthony Kennedy The term "hate speech" is a phrase everyone would define differently. It's a vaguely shaped club used by whomever wields it so they may beat people into submission. Which is exactly why we don't have hate speech. “If there is any principle of the Constitution that more imperatively calls for attachment than any other it is the principle of free thought - not free thought for those who agree with us but freedom for the thought that we hate.” --Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, 1929 and Samuel Alita, 2016 (Metal vs. Tam)

[@vendettavain]

I cannot take it seriously whenever Ben says 'glitter factory' - I keep picturing him with Tom Haverford 😂

[@myrandabennewith160]

I love it when Ben spices it up with his problematic comments lol

[@itselgarza3152]

✨ Spicy ✨

[@paulaburatto629]

Your profile pic is the same range of colors as Ben's hoodie. I love it!

[@ruthvilla3818]

🤣

[@vapenasher1238]

He gives life to cristine's boring logical un fun point of view...i love the girl but cmon...live a lil

[@idontknow5487]

YOitsNat how though am i missing something 😭 please tell me

[@lillyh3447]

"shimmer" is most often mica, while "glitter" is straight up tiny bits of PET plastic

[@Skittl1321]

There is also glass glitter.

[@leggi_bois4eva]

Mica is a mineral, so it's also natural

[@1osthope101]

Yeah, I pick up pieces of mica everyday where I live.

[@Cindeekisses]

Thank you for explaining, i was thinking the same thing the whole time!

[@elizabethviv]

@@victoriavarlam i was here to comment this too! i just watched a video about kids in india having to climb into mines and it was so sad.

[@alisonvoshell8355]

As far as stealth painting, this idea made me think of the dazzle camouflage used on ships at one point. The idea wasn't necessarily to make it less visible, but to make it harder to estimate size, shape, and direction of travel.

[@vixenhush3326]

Listen I have a theory...all of the silver glitter is going into the construction industry for reflective paint like the stuff they use on roads!

[@catercoz2491]

I was thinking of reflective road signs. But is that controversial enough?

[@kaitlynnp582]

Reflectivity in roadway paint comes from glass beads, which can be added to the paint as needed.

[@justinspencer983]

There’s also construction on the architectural end with concrete and floors having shimmers and glitter mixed in to give different finished. Though idk how much of that is traditional plastic glitter or just mineral based shine.

[@WattsTheSafeword]

Petty BEYYYYYN is my favorite part of these podcasts.

[@XSemperIdem5]

Holo there 🤔 Amp. I'm assuming it's Amp.

[@WattsTheSafeword]

XSemperIdem5 it’s always amp

[@jfaye2398]

Hi Amp!! Glad you see you guys in Hololand ☺️💕

[@BitsyGem]

My mind is slightly blown at Amp or Mr K watching Cristine & BEYYYYN

[@gauravvikalp]

Amp!!!

[@VicinalesDiol]

The shimmer in shampoos or soaps actually stems from pigments that aren’t polymer (plastic) based but are made out anorganic material. So you’re right, Cristine 😊

[@simplypodlogical]

I knew it!!! I just didn't know what I knew😂

[@tinks_workshop5645]

@@simplypodlogical ben has logic at the end tho and there was the American flag waving in a vacuum???? Like what how its a vacuum??????

[@Stettafire]

​@@tinks_workshop5645 You have stuff called solar winds, which are essentially photons that are capable of pushing stuff around. That's likely the culprit behind the moving flag.

[@mnick17]

Oooh Conspiracy theory: The Trade Secret Of How The Glitter Is Actually Made Is That It's All Actually Pixie And Fairy Dust. And The Government has all of the fairies and pixies and unicorns and mermaids working in the glitter factory

[@hannahrose2391]

Lol what😂

[@brizzuh3995]

i mean at this point anything is possible

[@dawnthegoblin]

I love this one

[@reemaprakash265]

I kinda wanna believe this but won't believe this at the same time lmao

[@brodysstoryrescuehouse8205]

And the reason you can't listen to it being made is because it's too many giggles And everyone would know what they're up to 🤣

[@dunyahm]

so glitter is defined by “a brilliant shine by reflection” where shimmer is defined by “a subdued sparkle or sheen.” They have some of the same synonyms but mostly in art and makeup they’re very different! Also the process of making glitter is usually produced in thin sheet that are painted with bright metallic or iridescent colors that reflect light then the sheets are cut up into tiny pieces to make glitter. When you make shimmer it’s more of making minerals make an effect, it’s created when mica is coated with an oxide, most commonly titanium dioxide like in eye shadow or highlight. That’s why with makeup and nail polish many people have a preference between the two.

[@roxypaquette9501]

Ben: so this next theory... Cristine: no.

[@Nerdygoddess]

Was I the only one that thought of the jewelry industry? So, definitions. For this to work we would have to agree that "glitter" can come in more than the traditional hex shape. Like the shiny plastic confetti shaped like stars, hearts, unicorn heads, ect. Same basic material, just a different custom shape. Foiling gems (backing the gems with a shiny metal to increase sparkle) has been a way of improving the look of gems for a long time. Backing them with shiny plastic instead of shiny metal would be a way to save costs. You would be able to see the increased shine, but not realize that it could be glitter. I could also see the jewelry industry not wanting to explain that diamonds aren't that shiny in real life, but they look prettier this way so just buy them...

[@Pyro_Chick]

My first thought as well

[@lowkeybruja]

I definitely think you're onto something. The entire jewelry industry is founded on the idea of purity and rarity, esp diamonds, even though they arent particularly rare, their value is entirely reliant on that perception. it all fits with the clues from the glitterx employee, what theyre doing cant be illegal (or it the govt would be all up in that ass after that interview), but they were made to sign a NDA bc it would be an industry shattering scandal if one or several major jewelers were exposed to be doing this, even the ones not doing it would lose value. and if yall seen uncut gems... well, i wouldnt wanna fuck around on the bad side of anyone in the jewelry industry either...

[@shivandragon2106]

This is what i thought of as well.

[@Nirrrina]

I just like the shiny glitter need. But I'm cheap. So I'm perfectly happy with cubic zirconia or similar.

[@Stettafire]

To be honest, I think it's pretty obvious it's used in jewellery, it's supposed to be an industry you wouldn't expect.

[@pe11entesque]

"Weaponize glitter, baby!" Need this in a shirt

[@ananyakoduru7316]

i never thought id listen to a 51 minute conversation which mostly consisted of of the definition of glitter and shimmer and be entertained

[@lurn8191]

alternative title: ben and cristine argue the definition of glitter for 51 minutes

[@valeriesmith7223]

As soon as Ben said that silver was the most popular, my mind went to mirrors. Like the reflective backing part.

[@joannojeda]

Glitter becomes shimmer as the particles size decreases.

[@samanthamiel2595]

I thought of Apple products cuz there’s a lot of them made, and they are kinda sparkly

[@Kaymisss]

Missed opportunity for this segment to be called “what do you think”.

[@mary_8160]

I think that they paint the planes with glitter so they reflect and look hidden in the sky. But I’m not a military agent so what do I know?

[@melissamanrique7702]

i feel like Ben wore this hoodie for the drama of it all lmao

[@elise3253]

lmaoooo I thought of that too haha

[@DJiswatching]

He frequently wears teddy fresh, but he also does make petty remarks at certain KZbinrs without naming names so I wouldn't put it past him lol

[@EmotionalSupportCapybara]

He always wears Teddy Fresh but I have a feeling he wore this particular hoodie on purpose

[@swissmiss116]

I think he wore the hoodie AND mentioned they were suppose to come do the podcast as a solidarity and statement on their opinion

[@stephp6761]

for sure - he even commented about whether it would be ethical to create a "holo" version in exactly the same colours, so pretty obvious that it was a deliberate decision haha

[@bleachchugtidy2178]

I'd say it's a car company that buys the glitter, if you look closely at some car paint it sparkles but doesn't look like glitter from further away and a it takes a lot of product to cover a lot of cars and a lot of manly men wouldn't want to have a glittery car because it's feminine. Edit: posted this before they said boats and cars, maybe if we run off of the military theory and the boat theory it could be the navy, water glistens and if they use glitter then it'll reflect light and colour and basically disappear.

[@dawnb8123]

Yup, we thought car industry as well.

[@dionmardianto]

Yes, for the metallic effect

[@kristinaphoenix8343]

That’s what my mind went to :3

[@piperjaycie]

I think it’s the boat industry and the problem is a lot of the glitter white paint used to make boats shiny gets worn away quickly and pollutes the oceans. Then they just repaint the boats and it starts all over again.

[@solbowman]

@@piperjaycie I saw a video yesterday, it does seem to be the boat industry! It certainly explains why they don't want the general public knowing about it, that would be a lot of micro plastic in our waters.

[@raeesmerelda]

Was thinking about this last night, and wondered about reflective road paint (like for lines). It definitely sparkles, might be more reflective than mica or more natural options, and could add durability (maybe also adhere better to pavement).

[@kaitlynnp582]

Ooh! I know the answer to this one, thanks to my boring road design job! That's glass beads, and construction contracts from municipalities stipulate exactly how much glass bead needs to be in the paint by volume.

[@soniarose2324]

I think what Christine is referring to as “shimmer” is actually micah powder which is made of grinding up a mineral and not plastic so it isn’t glitter or plastic and that’s why you can put it in food/drinks and consume if it is food grade or wear on your skin since its body safe (i think)

[@ferratovic]

Ben: it reminds our monkey brains about searching for water Me: copyright abubu

[@arcanedame3015]

Shimmer is Mica, a type of mineral that shimmers.

[@shaunacorrigan9372]

Oh my god, thank you! This was driving me nuts, especially when they were talking about sand. Like, guys, come on, how do you not know what mica is?!

[@xchrysantha]

There we go. I hope she sees this so she can be put at ease. XD

[@courtneysmith6140]

I’m fully obsessed with knowing all conspiracy theories and i believe like none of them.

[@halicusnguyen8864]

Honestly quite an honourable pursuit haha

[@HarpAngel999]

The shimmer stuff is likely mica powder- which is a mineral ground down to a powder. Which makes it body safe (and makes concrete sparkle)

[@lovetherain227]

Ben wearing this sweatshirt at this time is a nice touch

[@alyssaputnam263]

That's the first thing I noticed 🤣

[@ellad2397]

Hi I’m out of the loop, who’s merch is it lmao

[@temporarytieeight595]

@@ellad2397 James Charles and H3H3 are in controversy about whose design it is, since both their merch looks identical

[@justkibby5959]

@@temporarytieeight595 teddy fresh isn't merch. It's a legit clothing brand.

[@ellad2397]

Nota RealName ohh that makes sense, gotta love all they KZbin drama lol

[@diasigimbayev6865]

I LOVE BEN’S NOT SISTERS SWEATSHIRT

[@timmytran7357]

I love this comment. So much shade 😂

[@lurn8191]

CAME HERE FOR THIS COMMENT

[@youssef55555]

Oop

[@deepikachandra7857]

THE SHADEEEEEE 💀

[@medicalgoose2126]

I mean they don't own the colorblock pattern and I saw colorblock hoodies for the past years in literally every smaller brands shop in various malls so why the fuck bother? America stop making unnecessary dramas when the world is recovering from disease

[@viviennemonteith4855]

I was thinking the ski industry. When you look at a pair of skis,poles, and even your helmet they definitely have some sort of glitter in there. Especially brands like Armada skis and fisher. Also a POC helmet has a lot of shimmer. I don’t know why they would hide it though.

[@mattmammone2338]

On a serious note, glitter was being transported in the cargo hold on TWA flight 800 for Circ du Solei and when the recovery was launched the bodies floating in the water were covered in glitter.

[@iTrishaLyn]

Ooh I think we found Ben’s super power: those silky smooth, flawless transitions into ad reads that fund his Hummus Habit.

[@SimplySarah1990]

Julien did good transitions too. His were funny!

[@kahhhrahhh2478]

Cristine is right I think! Shimmer is usually made of mica or synthetic mica.

[@rachelrose3573]

Damn I really thought they were the same material but shimmer was just ground glitter 🤡

[@samphillips2718]

I was about to say mica!

[@rochelle1117]

Yep, exactly this.

[@samphillips2718]

Alexandra Defreitas nope! It's lab grown mica crystals

[@rachelrose3573]

Alexandra Defreitas no ma’am it isn’t.

[@Katie.2000]

Ben says theory: Me woahhhhh hmmmmm Cristine: no. I don’t believe it. Me: no. I don’t believe it.

[@anarchyneverdies3567]

My family owned a car dealership when I was growing up... every car my stepdad repainted had "metal flake" in the paint, as did the 100's of boats that passed through our dealership...I swear it has to be automotive "metal flake" paint 😂 we later opened a church, and he wanted actual glitter on the stucco ceilings, which he actually called glitter at that point. I'd always assumed he was too "manly" to call the car paint "glitter paint" 😂

[@victoriarigbymusic]

Officially requesting a podcast devoted to Matt & Ben discussing the mathematical specifics of the moon landing while Cristine paints their nails. please & thank you 🚀

[@imanc4919]

Victoria Lucas yes

[@sisa4954]

Yes! There may have been huge technological advancements since, but physics is physics, math is math.

[@mygirl737g2]

Yes! Matt & Ben podcast - Simply-Intellectual Bros

[@playtagwithasemi]

Ben WOULD wear that hoodie today 🤣

[@amyperry96]

I was just going to comment this, Ben loves spilling the tea 😂

[@shanefrancis14]

*sips tea*

[@HQ-sg7eq]

That's why we love him lol

[@jednoche7654]

Cristine is my role model. She almost never believes in conspiracies without empirical evidence.

[@SlugcatEmporium]

Re: the biggest industry market for glitter: It's in paint! The glitter is used especially in paints for jetskis and boats! not even kidding

[@piaaadah]

But it's something that they don't want customers to know it has glitter in it. Most would already assume paint has glitter in it, that's not surprising. It's something people wouldn't expect and also something they probably wouldn't want glitter in. Could be something like food or food coloring where people wouldn't be too happy about it.

[@tayet6875]

The obvious answer is THE MOON. It’s a whole heap of glitter. - I wouldn’t think it’s glitter - I would riot to find out it’s made from glitter LOL this was fun to listen to

[@asyoz]

Great - you've just given Shane another 'conspiracy theory series'... ;)

[@Elleeehh]

😂 that's a nice addendum to the flat earth theory

[@Rinibottlecaps]

but its made of cheese! everyone knows that xD

[@anthonyscharf694]

Conspiracy for Cristine to believe: Everyone knows about the story that Walt Disney supposedly had himself cryogenically preserved to be brought back to life when the technology was available. However, the real conspiracy is that in an effort to control their image, the Walt Disney Company made and titled the movie "Frozen" so that when someone searches for "Disney Frozen", the movie comes up instead of the conspiracies about Walt himself.

[@kayenjee]

🤔

[@spriddlez]

I predict her response will be: "Happy accident for the Walt Disney Brand" =P But this is a fun one since Disney is so branding focused.

[@Harri_Jay_Kay]

This is fun but Walt Disney being cryogenically frozen is a complete myth. He was actually cremated.

[@CarinaCoffee]

@@Harri_Jay_Kay I think if you reread that you'll find they did say that freezing conspiracy theory is one everyone knows (not that everyone knows Walt Disney did that).

[@adengelbright]

It’s actually so crazy that we had the technology to go to the moon before we had the technology to fake the moon landing with special effects or cgi

[@bethanyhupp447]

Uhh. Bro. Space odyssey: 2001. Filmed and released one year before the moon landing.

[@Kaeracter]

At the start of this conversation, my gut said paint. Something that gets adhered to something else, in some kind of medium that includes glitter. However, of the other theories in this episode, I think the sand one is actually the most plausible. Not that all the sand is glitter, but that glitter is used as a filler, or to "cut" the sand. Bizarre and interesting topic 😂

[@izzisart]

I was thinking that. It's not all glitter, but it's added to the non-beach sand to give more of a "beach" effect.

[@seemalokhande6869]

Ben throwing shade at the beauty community is literally the most ben thing he does lmao

[@gurveenbrar1587]

i was the 100th like

[@toomuchiridium]

Honestly when Ben is deep in conversation about something and he's being all *informative beeyyyn* and he looks straight at the camera I get really intimidated 😂

[@holicandy01]

He fills his Fiji bottle with tears of canceled gurus

[@celloafterdark4173]

I think lots of men who own boats probably wouldn’t like to know their boat is covered in glitter- more likely because it’s a toxic masculinity thing. But in reality EVERYONE can appreciate that glitter is beautiful!

[@mscookie3613]

Yeah I was coming back to say I’m pretty sure I saw a comment yesterday that the fishing industry uses hella glitter but I came back today and this was the only comment about it. I think y’all have found the jackpot

[@evahalb]

Well... except when it's floating around in the ocean.

[@rabbitpacks7090]

@@mscookie3613 I was just going to say, I don't fish, but isn't there super amounts of glitter in fishing lures. Men and their glittery boats and baits.

[@mscookie3613]

rabbitpacks yeah me either. But from what I remember fishing with my grandpa as a child, a lot of things were pretty sparkly but not in the bam in your face kind of way that other glitters can be. Men really be the most hypocritical species.

[@Hibleb]

Yeah, I think they’re overestimating the average boat-owner’s avoidance of microplastics and underestimating the average boat-owner’s fragile masculinity. Especially at a corporate level. Companies make decisions about branding and wording and copy based on testing and target audience response - stands to reason to assume the average (read: Target) boat buyer is an over 35 y/o male who doesn’t identify with the word “Glitter.”

[@megem2908]

As soon as I saw Ben in that sweatshirt, I knew some shade was coming eventually. 😂

[@leafmealome8910]

I’m sitting on my little jersey girl home just now learning that glitterx exists. It explains Jersey fashion....

[@alinagoberman1827]

Fishing. The fishing industry is all glitter. From the boats, to the lures. All of it is plastic going directly into the water.

[@carly8]

I kept thinking of the fishing bait!! It’s so glittery

[@Pup_Cubby]

Ben brandishing the infamous teddy fresh sweater has me rolling, yes I'm aware he's wore it before, but talk about timing. 😂🤣

[@laurenhartso]

I was searching for a comment like this. I guarantee he did it on purpose 😂

[@Atomicqueen9]

Omg i was thinking the same😂😂

[@ParyMarker]

Asphalt maybe? I've noticed some concrete is sparkly?

[@stanzi7036]

That was my thought too, or some other flooring, like when they add glitter to it so you don't notice the dirt and is often used in heavy-traffic public toilets etc.

[@PatWallace]

Yes!

[@stardustfactory8311]

I love how each segment is labeled when you tap the screen

[@amberamey7549]

The way I feel about conspiracy theories is the same as how I feel about horoscopes: they're fun to look into and think 'what if ' but ultimately not something I put much stock in.

[@lizalove91]

Yes same!

[@MissMustang98]

I wonder how “GlitterX” defines “glitter”. And, if it’s silver (the most popular) I wonder if the US Military has glitter in the gray paint used on their ships as a type of camouflage. Moving water can certainly be very glittery.

[@avac9349]

I know really nothing about it compared to what's out there, but those pigments in reflective paints like on ships or lane markings or street signs are actually reflective because of finely crushed glass incorporated into the paint or coating!

[@LadySilverSerenity]

I actually saw a really really good theory on this on the unresolvedmysteries subreddit. Some glitter is made from very finely cut, highly reflective mylar sheets. In its sheet form, you wouldn't know it was glitter. So what uses highly reflective plastic in a sheet like form? Food packaging. Chip bags, candy wrappers, cookie sleeves, etc. Not sure if this link will work, but they go into detail on the theory: www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/gz7up9/why_i_disagree_with_the_current_theories

[@_dumb_kid_2954]

omg i never thought of that, it makes so much sense too, i- you.are.a. genius.

[@ariana_208]

Look up Razzle Dazzle Camouflage it was popular during WW1. You can’t paint the ship (or in this case plane) one shade of blue to mimic the sky because the shade of blue is always changing. What you can do however is make is make it difficult to know what’s the plane/boat is doing and how fast is going

[@A.Filthy.Casual]

As someone thats in the military, intel specifically, I can tell you it ain't that; it wouldn't make any sense. Having a shimmering paint on the boat would only make it more visible--and thats besides the fact that camouflage isn't used on boats anymore. The large caliber guns used on ships operate at such an incredibly long distance you can't even visibly see the target in the majority of instances you would be firing on it. Ships use surface search radar systems to scan the surface for their target--and since the electromagnetic energy that is used in radar systems is just a different wavelength of light, having a reflective surface would actually make your vessel easier to see with radar. If you look at the newest ships that are being fielded, they're typically flat gray and very angular; this is because the gray color actually comes from specialized radar-absorbing materials (which is also whats used for aircraft) and the angular shape helps deflect radar waves to avoid the wave reflecting back to the radar receiver and reduce the profile of your vessel.

[@zoehicks880]

Soap is my top guess 🧼 It checks all the boxes I can think of. 1) The process of creating the soap probably creates a potent and recognizable smell, which would explain why the interviewer wasn’t allowed to be around the area where it’s being made. 2) many many brands of soaps, body washes, and shampoos have that sparkly sheen and we continually use/buy it throughout our lives so that would explain why it’s the biggest purchaser (plus many brands are under the same ownership so that would increase the quantity to a single buyer). 3) it can’t be good for the environment, just like micro beads, so that would explain why they’re not disclosing who they are/what they’re doing. I’m sure they’re hoping that by not letting the public know they’ll be able to keep their harmful formula and not deal with backlash/loss of sales (like with micro beads).

[@Freakforphotos]

Found a podcast with someone whose Dad owned a glitter production company in Germany, and he said the mysterious buyers are probably automotive manufacturers. Apparently car paint is comprised almost entirely of what the industry calls "effects pigments" (i.e. glitter, though ground suuuuper fine) suspended in liquid - there can't be any space between the pigments or you'd be able to physically see bits of glitter on your car, so it takes a TON to make a small amount of paint. This is why cars paint is so lustrous under direct sunlight.

[@joannax3x3]

THIS WEEK ON CLEVVER NEWS: KZbinr Bentendo shocks us all again and wears THE HOODIE. That’s right, James Charles, Ben has clearly picked a side and it’s not yours.

[@723missyoumissme]

I'm confused

[@sarahdekker937]

I was thinking about how into the tea Ben is and I felt like he wore that hoodie on purpose. I think I remember Cristine wearing it as well.

[@farrahayuning]

Isn't the hoodie Ben used is the H3H3 wife's company's? Teddy fresh (if I'm not wrong?

[@christopherturpin9332]

Farrah Ayuning Yep it is and James Charles ripped of the design for his own merch brand.

[@hollyj4529]

Shimmer is usually mica or more often synthetic mica. An overwhelming amount of real mica is mined in India by child labor. Synthetic mica (fluorphlogopite) is lab created.

[@ananyamisra6556]

Yes! I believe there was a documentary on this, about Jharkhand

[@hollyj4529]

Ananya Misra YES... there is a lot of info online about Jharkhand. It is such a tragedy to see what these people go through in the name of beauty for the cosmetics industry. It really does make you realize how important it is to read the ingredient lists for the products we consume. india.mongabay.com/2019/10/mica-scavenging-in-jharkhand-destroys-lives-and-environment/

[@pockyeatingpanda]

I push for synthetic mica all the time. It’s an important cause.

[@jasmine-ruff-puff9951]

Thanks for the heads up, I had no idea.

[@Thenoobestgirl]

@@hollyj4529 this was really interesting and informative. Thank you for sharing this article!

[@jackierecinos5182]

I just purchased my first 3 Holo Taco nail polishes and I can’t wait!! Using these is going to be so much fun. I’m happy that I can get good quality without going to the salon. The salon scares me.

[@AllysonRR]

I love how skeptical Cristine is about glitter!! And how Ben tries to sell the theories to Cristine🥰

[@kateecalhoun5372]

Why is bens voice perfect for podcast ??? Cristine is the lovely entertainer we all love but bens got that Npr voice lol

[@laiskudo7445]

Npr?

[@stephp6761]

@@laiskudo7445 National Public Radio (popular US radio broadcaster)

[@muffincita5]

100% NPR voice. I love NPR!

[@thumble360]

My guess is the glitter is for car paint, airplanes, etc... or maybe for missiles and military equipment which explains the secrecy since people don't associate glitter with violence/war.

[@torivivirito6323]

thumble360 I think it’s autobody paints. Like cars look glittery in sunlight same with motorcycles

[@Stettafire]

@@torivivirito6323 Yes, I've seen freshly painted cars versus vintage paint. Even when the vintage paints are in top-knick and have no sun damage they don't have the same "floress" (sorry, can't think of a better word and IDK how you spell that? Flores? Floures? Flouress?) as the new paints. Even plain boring red paint (I hate red painted cars) has a slight shift to it you don't see with older paints.

[@tessacucullu7572]

I was thinking auto paint too but wondering how they can make it small enough to go through the sprayer.

[@jaspacallaghan]

Stettafire fluoresce? Glitter doesn’t fluoresce but I think that’s the word you’re after

[@cintiamtz1726]

That wouldn’t work, paint and coating of aeronautical vehicles (airplanes/missiles/etc) are always primarily focused on anti corrosive properties and made to withstand very extreme temperatures, glitter would just not

[@napoh.5888]

I love watching this while drawing. I’ve been looking for a podcast that isn’t super boring, so thank you for that gang. OwO~

[@kathrynbuettner5216]

My guess is road paving materials because it would lend to light reflectiveness

[@NicholeParker]

Okay but you might be on to something

[@kaitlynnp582]

Roadway paint is made reflective using reflective glass beads. I'm excited that I can use my boring roadway design job knowledge in a glitter conversation

[@kathrynbuettner5216]

@@kaitlynnp582 I was thinking more the asphalt itself. But that is SUPER COOL to know about the paint

[@radhika273]

Ben losing his mind over shimmer and glitter, and pulling his hair is a whole mood😂😂

[@daphne0123]

Cristine: "I wasn't rich growing up." Also Cristine: "I had a boat at my cottage." 😂😂😂

[@eli586AR]

Exactly. A cottage and a boat

[@elisa4664]

I see your point, but here in canada a lot of people of middle class have cottages with boats because we live close by to cottage-like areas (i live in the same city as Christine did growing up) so she probably wasn't rich like she is now and she definitely wasn't poor but she was along the middle class (from what i can assume by living here for 21 years)

[@elisa4664]

Cristine* damn autocorrect haha

[@paranoiarpincess]

I was super poor growing up, but my grandparents were middle class, and they got a cottage and a boat, so we used it all the time as kids. So yeah, it's absolutely possible! Also, a boat doesn't have to be SUPER expensive. It's just a can with wood benches and a motor. I guess it really is a Canadian thing cause so many people here have boats, but we also have A LOT of lakes... or maybe it's more of an Ontario thing... idk.

[@paranoiarpincess]

@@elisa4664 thank you! I live in Ontario too, and my family and I were very poor growing up. To the point that when I tried to get financial aid when going to college, my parents put so little an income on their taxes that I didn't qualify! They didn't believe it was possible for my parents to live on such a low income. All that said, my grandparents were middle class and got their house when houses were insanely cheap, so they were able pay it off, and saved up and were able to get a cottage that came with a boat. It wasn't the best boat in the world, but they got the cottage and boat for the whole family. So yeah, super poor, I'm talking welfare poor, and we had a boat and a cottage. My grandparents weren't even super well off, and they could get a boat because it just came with the place. They loved being up north so much, they sold their original house, moved into a winterized cottage down the road from our first cottage, and built an entire floor under it so we all had somewhere to stay together. It was lovely. I lived there with them for a few years even. They ended up selling the boat with the old cottage, but with the sale of their original house, they were able to get a pontoon boat. Which is something that they not only really wanted, but turned into my grandpa's second home lol. Point is, yeah, definitely don't need to be rich to own a boat.

[@user-iy7fp7bg4r]

One of my favorite things about Ben and Cristine’s following is that I always learn something new in the comments section. I also appreciate that there are other people that will discuss things like shimmer vs. glitter and holo vs. iridescent.

[@ellabrockton8987]

i love to listen to these episode while im doing work!

[@emmathecostumer6547]

Conspiracy theory: Ben and Cristine don’t run Holo taco it’s been menchie and zyler all along *gasp*

[@mygirl737g2]

Like a Ratatouille situation, yes!

[@JenniferSnaps]

They are Menchie and Zyler wearing coats

[@roxypicasso66]

that’s why there are nail polishes named directly after the cats and not any named ben and cristine

[@fi-FAY-fo]

Finally a conspiracy theory to stand behind ✊🏽

[@themermaidmurders3643]

Thank you for putting the image of cats in suits in my head. Its delightful!

[@pixelgirl500]

THE SHADE OF BEN WEARING TEDDY FRESH 💀

[@noctuary28]

Glad im not the only one that caught it 💀💀💀

[@zsuci93]

Savage 😂😂😂

[@deepikachandra7857]

Yes 👀💀

[@AmethystNotTaken]

I was really hoping that he would, tbh.

[@marian4700]

Ben is the best!

[@kimnguyen1934]

Teddy fresh segment, The shade of it all 😂🤣😂🤣

[@callie9535]

i watch these when i do my homework and i love doing my homework now