Glock, staccato, sig, canik grip comparison

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Ben Stoeger

Ben Stoeger

Күн бұрын

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@CurtDarlington-g5l
@CurtDarlington-g5l 12 күн бұрын
Just an observation….seen several videos of your classes. Got to say, I would hate to pay good money for “training” just to watch you shoot. Seems pretty common in your classes.
@TheDuckWithAGun
@TheDuckWithAGun 12 күн бұрын
It’s called doing a demo…. I would never trust an instructor that can’t show/perform what they teach.
@southendsuspect
@southendsuspect 12 күн бұрын
🤦🏻‍♂️
@Nickalapokis
@Nickalapokis 11 күн бұрын
It's almost like he only uploads the demos with the important information because watching 20 people shoot the drill badly for 30min is so much better for showing what he's trying to teach...
@deadfishporter
@deadfishporter 11 күн бұрын
Why wouldn't you want to pay $500 for a class, 500 in ammo and travel expenses.🤷🏻‍♂️ Probably just keep watching KZbin. 😎
@2AlphaCrew
@2AlphaCrew 11 күн бұрын
@@CurtDarlington-g5l you silly silly…. Silly silly, silly man
@Pappy7064
@Pappy7064 11 күн бұрын
One Week Later...Ben still pulling different guns out of his range bag.
@TROY-MCCLURE-1991
@TROY-MCCLURE-1991 12 күн бұрын
Ben will shoot anything but an M&P.
@Osprey1994
@Osprey1994 12 күн бұрын
He has talked about it before, and apparently it just isn't interesting. I kinda agree, they are right there with Glock in terms of boringly reliable.
@carlosdaniels9515
@carlosdaniels9515 11 күн бұрын
​@@Osprey1994but yet he still gives us boring glock content from time to time.
@Jay_Spesh_Stay_Fresh
@Jay_Spesh_Stay_Fresh 11 күн бұрын
Because he doesn’t want to lmao That simple
@oceaser6977
@oceaser6977 11 күн бұрын
@@Osprey1994 but he shoots Glock, the least interesting pistol ever
@burtrandolph1745
@burtrandolph1745 11 күн бұрын
Not calling out anybody specific but I have no clue why people care which gun another man chooses to shoot.
@Yakubian_Tactical_Dynamics
@Yakubian_Tactical_Dynamics 11 күн бұрын
Grip angle nerds on life support rn
@x-verbolten-x8738
@x-verbolten-x8738 11 күн бұрын
"muh 1911 grip angle"
@gansior4744
@gansior4744 11 күн бұрын
No joke. "Glock is unshootable"
@justindeus3899
@justindeus3899 11 күн бұрын
People overthink that shit to no end. I can switch from my Glock to my MP with barely any adjustment, if any at all. People would rather make excuses than learn a platform. People even say 1911 grip angle is the best because rep to rep it's faster by .1 of a second😂
@Yakubian_Tactical_Dynamics
@Yakubian_Tactical_Dynamics 11 күн бұрын
@gansior4744 dude I unironically like the Glock grip angle. Feels aggressive and makes me want to shoot more often lol. When people bring up grip angle I just sorta glaze over. Like tell me you don't train without telling me.
@Yakubian_Tactical_Dynamics
@Yakubian_Tactical_Dynamics 11 күн бұрын
@justindeus3899 is it even about learning a platform or just not training? I can swap between my 1911 and glock all day, a couple dry fire draws and indexes each and I'm gtg lol. And I don't even train that much compared to some in this sport.
@BullseyeBallistics-kf1jw
@BullseyeBallistics-kf1jw 12 күн бұрын
I just know that S2 felt like home in Bens hands 😂
@guy2234-v5r
@guy2234-v5r 12 күн бұрын
Shoot a hundred rounds and every grip feels wildly different. Shoot a hundred thousand and they all blend together.
@sancfireactual307
@sancfireactual307 11 күн бұрын
If that’s what you think then you suck at shooting pistols 😂
@MrJbedo
@MrJbedo 11 күн бұрын
@@sancfireactual307what part is stupid about that?
@guy2234-v5r
@guy2234-v5r 11 күн бұрын
@@sancfireactual307 Nope. A class in carry optics. I'm not a GM but still better than most of the general shooting population. I'm regularly making top ten in my local matches, which is the third largest club in the nation. We average over 140 shooters a match so it's bigger than some majors. You should come shoot with us at SLPSA to see if you can prove your point.
@crumbopulis
@crumbopulis 5 күн бұрын
@@MrJbedo your human experience is subjective and wholly yours. How that guy feels shooting is different than yourself. Not wrong per se, just doesn’t fit with his experience.
@bluejaytactical
@bluejaytactical 11 күн бұрын
The $650 Glock returned to the holster. IJS
@Project_1868
@Project_1868 12 күн бұрын
Don’t go bankrupt but buy what fits your hand and your needs. I’m happy with all of the major brands of striker fired 9’s.
@Born2doom
@Born2doom 12 күн бұрын
Well said!
@Shadow__133
@Shadow__133 11 күн бұрын
Hi-Point too? 😂
@Project_1868
@Project_1868 11 күн бұрын
@ no but CZ, Glock, H&K, S&W, Sig, Walther types. USPSA/IDPA/Duty guns. All the same to me.
@poctordepper4469
@poctordepper4469 11 күн бұрын
Bros swapping guns like its GTA
@drodv12
@drodv12 11 күн бұрын
Ben can you explain more about what you meant at the 3 min mark. I did not just drop 4300 dollars to buy a gun that’s harder to shoot. I bought it to make fun of my poor friends while the thing shoots itself at a GM level.
@austenleffler95
@austenleffler95 11 күн бұрын
A comped 2011 with a racey trigger has a higher performance ceiling than a factory Glock, if that makes sense. As an example, if you’re doing your part, you should be able to do the same stuff with the 2011 that you can do with the Glock, but at farther distances. It’s almost like doing the same drills with a rifle as you do with a pistol, but at greater distance under a tighter time constraint. You can absolutely hold the A-zone shooting doubles at like 30y with the 2011. But with a Glock, you’ll be limited by the capability of the gun sooner. The catch is that when you’re pushing the performance limits of your 2011, the gun will be very sensitive to your input. If you push on the gun just a little bit at 10y with a Glock, you might shoot a C. Do the same with the 2011 at 30, and you might miss the target altogether. It’s deceptively hard to put so little input into the gun that you don’t induce problems, but that’s exactly what you have to do with an open gun when you’re extracting the best performance out of the gun. That’s what makes it tougher, in some sense. Good news though. Even if you shoot like poop, you’re still flexing on the poors either way.
@believein1
@believein1 10 күн бұрын
Hey Ben, I’ve been into firearms for a few months now. This is how I compare it. It’s like a water hose. You plug the hole BEFORE you turn it on to contain the water, not AFTER. Good luck trying to keep the water in then. So you establish the grip and compression as a sequential step BEFORE the trigger pull. If you play video games, it’s like first person shooters when you hold down the right mouse button to aim, then shoot. If you establish your grip and compression, you block any way for the “water” to escape into the frame of the gun, and it shoots out the barrel at a higher speed and velocity. Spitting flames.
@yarghhargh9345
@yarghhargh9345 10 күн бұрын
Youre overthinking it
@believein1
@believein1 10 күн бұрын
@@yarghhargh9345 You're underthinking it.
@coolgr3y997
@coolgr3y997 11 күн бұрын
Just how relaxed should your firing hand be?
@kennethkanaiff6242
@kennethkanaiff6242 11 күн бұрын
As loose as it needs to be to manipulate the gun, with out adding crazy input into it I would imagine. Only you can answer that question for yourself. As loose as you need to and as hard as you can get away with. Somewhere in there 😂😂😂 To quote Mark Smith. Your grip is a living document. Subject to change and experimentation lol.
@pistolerodelcaribe
@pistolerodelcaribe 10 күн бұрын
Man, that Canik looks snappy, even with the comp. Dang. P226 Legion looked flatter to me
@justinschwarz2947
@justinschwarz2947 10 күн бұрын
ben your like the cross between a chess player a pothead and a cop.
@dansmith6631
@dansmith6631 11 күн бұрын
Excellent !!!!!!
@gansior4744
@gansior4744 11 күн бұрын
Good job to Pranka, didnt mention Pedigree once
@snakeplissken44
@snakeplissken44 11 күн бұрын
😂
@BGInsurgency
@BGInsurgency 10 күн бұрын
He had breakfast that morning
@Moresco24
@Moresco24 6 күн бұрын
was surprised he was talking to civilians
@ericscott6427
@ericscott6427 11 күн бұрын
This guy could do one hole doubles with a slingshot
@drdan9158
@drdan9158 11 күн бұрын
What do you do if your grip is not the same after 8 shots?
@tylerreis7627
@tylerreis7627 11 күн бұрын
Grip more
@gansior4744
@gansior4744 11 күн бұрын
I would grip harder
@GMJanicki
@GMJanicki 11 күн бұрын
Ben, there is Modern Samurai project class in my area later this year, what are some reasons I should go, or not?
@Kh2456
@Kh2456 11 күн бұрын
Cringe instructor, please don’t.
@skvinson1966
@skvinson1966 11 күн бұрын
He is one of the most sought-after instructors and won the contract to teach red dots to the FBI Hostage Rescue Team for a reason.
@Kh2456
@Kh2456 11 күн бұрын
@@skvinson1966 you kiss him on the mouth when you took his class?
@ACGBLR
@ACGBLR 3 күн бұрын
@@skvinson1966is that the same FBI who covered up Girls getting sexual assaulted by a doctor? The same FBI going after parents speaking out at schools teaching their kids porn essentially? He won a contract, so he was the lowest bidder as with any gov gig.
@armorers_wrench
@armorers_wrench 12 күн бұрын
I bought your books. Pretty interesting stuff tbh. I have a question. Do you think shooting comped pistols will make you a worse shooter? Do they instill poor fundamentals overtime? Or does it not matter? Cuz I like shooting comped pistols--its fun. But I always try to shoot my non-comped pistols more so I don't get sloppy. Am I wasting my time?
@2AlphaCrew
@2AlphaCrew 12 күн бұрын
@@armorers_wrench unless you’re shooting major pf, or self defense ammo… comps are pointless. My opinion
@Osprey1994
@Osprey1994 12 күн бұрын
Pretty sure he has a video on that very question. Just go and look. Ben shoots enough where he doesn't seem very worried about comps, unlike some of the guys who are super paranoid that a comp will make them lazy. At the same time, these same people will shoot a Shadow 2 that is right under weight, and they carry the biggest gun they can because they struggle to shoot small guns. I carry a small pistol, so I shoot that gun the most. I can hit 6×10 steel at 50yds with it, and a B zone target at 100yds. My bill drills aren't the best, but my last competition with it had a 2.54 from appendix to last shot, which I am happy with. The point of mentioning this, is that when I bump up or do any sort of confirmation drills with my competition pistol, I just find it to be drastically easier. Last year the ammo split was 3500 carry/1300 competition pistol, a lot of that was just verifying it worked and then verifying it worked again after I had the internals replaced. TLDR: Based on personal experience, as long as you don't spend all your time on the gun that is easiest to shoot and that you don't carry, you'll be fine.
@2AlphaCrew
@2AlphaCrew 11 күн бұрын
@ hey… I shoot an S2, and I can still run my polymer guns (g19 for carry, Canik rival spare CO gun). lol I feel personally attacked 😂
@onpsxmember
@onpsxmember 11 күн бұрын
The new books are out soon.
@HKGunPlay
@HKGunPlay 11 күн бұрын
Ben’s motto is just shoot. My motto is if you don’t enjoy what you are doing you won’t do it. Just have fun. It’s good to go back and forth to keep the fundamentals but imo and I feel like Ben’s as well don’t get to in your head about and don’t get to in the weeds of this and that and just shoot. Focus on fundamentals and consistency and push yourself. Plus there are many comps that are so good that it will mess up your shooting non comped. I made a flush fit Glock with my radian and I shoot it the most because I love it so flat. But I also shoot my other Glocks as well and don’t seem to have any issues. The first round or two might catch me off guard but you quickly adjust your grip or whatever and it’s back to normal. If you wanna be a competition shooter it’s probably best to shoot what you wanna compete with the most but don’t stress out and make it fun your brain knows the difference let it do its thing
@pauljcomp6621
@pauljcomp6621 12 күн бұрын
I'm so switching to 5.7.
@D-dogtactical734
@D-dogtactical734 11 күн бұрын
Your gonna go broke then
@Shadow__133
@Shadow__133 11 күн бұрын
@@D-dogtactical734Only if you practice, a good defensive round can be found for the same price as most 9mm ones.
@D-dogtactical734
@D-dogtactical734 11 күн бұрын
@ lmao your high! Real defensive 5.7 goes for 150 a box of 50 and the regular fmj goes for 50 a box on average! It’s expensive plain and simple
@Shadow__133
@Shadow__133 11 күн бұрын
@@D-dogtactical734 You are uninformed. Speer Gold dot 9mm: $0.64/rd 5.7: $0.54/rd ($27 a box of 50rds). I have bought AAC max for even less.
@D-dogtactical734
@D-dogtactical734 11 күн бұрын
@ 😂😂🤣🤣 buddy I own a 5.7 you are absolutely wrong and you are comparing some of the most pricy 9mm that you don’t shoot at the range compared to 5.7 ammo so cheep I’ve never seen before! Look at my channel bud
@Doosteroni
@Doosteroni 11 күн бұрын
Is Ben pregnant??
@WordSaladSpeachWriter
@WordSaladSpeachWriter 11 күн бұрын
Is it yours?
@frontlinepfknr
@frontlinepfknr 11 күн бұрын
It was supposed to be a secret but with that shirt he’s giving it away🤣😂
@goodthingshappen5389
@goodthingshappen5389 11 күн бұрын
How dare you call out Ben’s gut
@leftyo9589
@leftyo9589 11 күн бұрын
might be, but he hasnt said anything because he doesnt want to out the baby daddy!!!! LOL
@michaelturk7237
@michaelturk7237 11 күн бұрын
Dadbodmaxxing
@Precocktrigger
@Precocktrigger 11 күн бұрын
Do you still edc your Sig?
@mexicangator
@mexicangator 11 күн бұрын
When will your 2026 calendar be available?
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 12 күн бұрын
🇺🇸
@raylmeagan13
@raylmeagan13 11 күн бұрын
What’d he say at 01:14 😂
@ChrisSmith-ou7np
@ChrisSmith-ou7np 11 күн бұрын
Ha that's a very common unit of measurement with blue collar guys. Especially in construction, "your cut is too long, gotta take a cunt hair off that".
@matthewvolpe7515
@matthewvolpe7515 10 күн бұрын
I caught that too
@StoicJason
@StoicJason 7 күн бұрын
@@matthewvolpe7515we say it’s a red one in Alabama
@johnhalpin1847
@johnhalpin1847 8 күн бұрын
Would have helped if you name which firearm you were shooting as you demo the gun and grip.
@bomaniigloo
@bomaniigloo 12 күн бұрын
Free mason training.
@2AlphaCrew
@2AlphaCrew 11 күн бұрын
@@bomaniigloo huh? Like… free, mason training… or … free mason, training?
@douglasmoore8033
@douglasmoore8033 11 күн бұрын
I'm a tile setter. I'd love some mason training. The bricks and block are my downfall.
@2AlphaCrew
@2AlphaCrew 11 күн бұрын
@@douglasmoore8033 stones is where it’s at… I’m a mason. I’m also a tile guy. And a framer. Trim guy. lol pretty much everything except roofer and plumber
@michaelturk7237
@michaelturk7237 11 күн бұрын
If you're hinting at what I think you are, then I'll have to hard disagree. No lodge would take him, because he'd refuse to do a bunch of ret@rded rituals for clout from a bunch of country club cuckolds, and he'd say as much lmao.
@2AlphaCrew
@2AlphaCrew 12 күн бұрын
That CZ S2 ran flatter & faster than all the others… no comparison. Fight me
@Osprey1994
@Osprey1994 12 күн бұрын
With the brass grips and how much that shit weighs, I would hope it runs flat. That being said, the Canik is light and very flat.
@byronbranch4645
@byronbranch4645 12 күн бұрын
***rolls a 4D32***
@2AlphaCrew
@2AlphaCrew 12 күн бұрын
@@Osprey1994 the Canik wasn’t bad either. But I’m a S2 fan boy lol so it’s king
@2AlphaCrew
@2AlphaCrew 12 күн бұрын
@@byronbranch4645 I like this, cuz I don’t know what you mean 😂
@byronbranch4645
@byronbranch4645 12 күн бұрын
@2AlphaCrew hahaha it's a dice roll from like online role playing back in the AOL days 🤣🤣🤣. That's how you fight hah
@dukedynasty
@dukedynasty 11 күн бұрын
Loose pants with the tight shirt is funny
@ap71chevss
@ap71chevss 11 күн бұрын
Ben please tell that guy to stop saying "right" every other word! I like your videos, but that joker is so annoying saying "right" 50 times a minute.
@Edc-Guy
@Edc-Guy 11 күн бұрын
Right ?
@ap71chevss
@ap71chevss 2 күн бұрын
​@@Edc-Guylol
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