Fans: can we kill it? Kratos: No Fans: But big monster! Kratos: It is not our concern
@adamsatanaels94134 жыл бұрын
Fans : *Throw axe at the Eagle* Kratos : NO! Only fire, when I tell you to fire.
@bruv81174 жыл бұрын
Lol Thor Ragnarok refference
@ghostbiker73914 жыл бұрын
I read the it with kratos sound
@lordre70714 жыл бұрын
Ragnarok
@patricksena75654 жыл бұрын
Stolem
@jonaharnold76455 жыл бұрын
Kratos: there are consequences to killing a god Boi: how do you know! Kratos: because I killed so many Greek gods the series had to change to Norse mythology
@guglielmoelia7775 жыл бұрын
Epic
@Aaron-co4od5 жыл бұрын
Savage
@mizenbarbarossa4945 жыл бұрын
I don't remember him killing Aphrodite lol they can make a game out of him and Aphrodite especially being all the times that they had been close together be like kratos's son or daughter that he had an Aphrodite are the fact that when he was younger he kind of just slept his way through Greece
@Anti-HyperLink5 жыл бұрын
Well that explains midgard. So he killed poseidon and hades and Apollo and hephaestus and even the dreaming guy?
@munim16674 жыл бұрын
Lol
@quantumcellsquad27845 жыл бұрын
It’s obviously Mighty Eagle from angry birds
@aarishkhan64884 жыл бұрын
Lel
@LinaLina-pl7wg4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@smaamirtyagdal31064 жыл бұрын
Mighty mighty eagle soaring free 😂😂😂
@Zak_16073 жыл бұрын
Lmao gg man
@Minority_hunter..3 жыл бұрын
Wait so red is kratos?? Its all connected man
@Meadiocracy6 жыл бұрын
Y'all clearly didn't listen during the story in Helhiem. The giant Hraesvelg (“corpse eater”) sits at the edge of the world, overlooking Helheim. In the form of an eagle with flapping wings he makes the wind blow. Mimir explained this.
@robertcortez23665 жыл бұрын
Yes
@BaiSeHuLanHu5 жыл бұрын
Exactly this guy doesn't even know the whole lore of the game and shoots "ThEoRiEs" goddamnit
@John-ir9tb5 жыл бұрын
Damn, really? I believe the stories told are randomized so I didn’t hear it.
@casualcouch94594 жыл бұрын
I dont know how I missed this can you tell me when he says this
@drackbrightness74 жыл бұрын
i just when you end u fighting the GIANT to bring his HEART. Mimir: don't go to close to the fucking bird or you might never comeback ! Stuff like that go watch a let's play 😂😂😂😂😂👌
@johnniejohnson45284 жыл бұрын
This whole thing is him trying to get the bird as a boss fight
@logical33674 жыл бұрын
i think the bird is odin
@rpgames69224 жыл бұрын
@@logical3367 lul
@cbf74084 жыл бұрын
G6-Logical why would Odin be in Helheim? Surely he’d be in Asgard right?
@salvadorenoify4 жыл бұрын
Perphaps its one of odins bird
@louiswaze46034 жыл бұрын
G6-Logical also why would the bird help you escape helheim if it was Odin
@JageshemashFTW4 жыл бұрын
There is one theory that I never hear anyone talk about: It’s Nameless. In myth, there are a trio of three roosters that are bred to crow the moment Skoll and Hati consume the sun and moon, alerting to all across the nine realms that Ragnarok has officially begun. There’s one rooster in Asgard named Gullinkambi. There’s one in Jotunheim named Fialar. And there’s one in Helheim who has no master, no caretaker, and thus no name. Odin even straight up denotes it as ‘Nameless’. Now, granted, that doesn’t really _look_ like a rooster, but you could make the argument the developers are taking some creative licensing because a giant cock might look a little silly.
@samikhalil82833 жыл бұрын
Good theory
@charlien25893 жыл бұрын
Solid. I like it.
@anubus63 жыл бұрын
You took a long way to get there but that’s a funny cock joke at the end.
@arthurmorgan8353 жыл бұрын
Love this theory! Good job boy!
@taterandy39583 жыл бұрын
This theory is better!!!!
@tovopro6 жыл бұрын
Just remember, after completing this game, you come to realize that it’s just one long ass intro. LoL. We haven’t encountered Thor, fight the real queen of the Valkyries, and meet Odin himself. There’s still so much they haven’t gotten to yet, so there should be plenty of room for epic grand battles with gigantic beasts/demons/gods.
@AB-wf2js4 жыл бұрын
How would that play out with a sequel though. Kratos isn't hunting for gods anymore and just wants to live life with his son, so why would he kill all these guys? I mean I love seeing kratos go ham on gods but I dont a reason for him to do so.
@melbanko14104 жыл бұрын
G M idk thor came to kratos because of his two dead sons, “payback” Ragnarok is coming as you can tell by the snow so Odin is already going to die, unlesssss the whole story changes and somehow Odin does fix his death 💀 But I feel like if we do kill Thor Odin will keep sending gods after us, until we get to him just to end it once and for all
@brianlqm4 жыл бұрын
@@AB-wf2js yee like the other dude said, it would definitely be about all the Scandinavian gods coming to kill Kratos since he fucked up their lands and Kratos having to defend himself and Atreus. Also the main topic, Ragnarok, Odin wants to change the prophecy to not die but Kratos just fast forward and Ragnarok is about to happen in 3 years.
@JonGonZ7184 жыл бұрын
G M have you even played the new game dude? They literally set up a sequel before the game even ended
@AB-wf2js4 жыл бұрын
@@JonGonZ718 yes I have and I completed it. But I think that I made my initial comment before seeing the secret cutscene.
@ziaddabliz50645 жыл бұрын
The eagle is noobmaster69
@haidaralghareeb99674 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@chosen53244 жыл бұрын
Thor go to kratos to kill the eagle
@chosen53244 жыл бұрын
@Ms. Kuchisaké how?
@Demos_Jeff4 жыл бұрын
Oh no...
@prentistqualls43414 жыл бұрын
It's probably zeus.
@ns05572124 жыл бұрын
Kratos got dragged there by Hati the wolf. 3 wolves twice his height attacked him and he was dragged into another realm and found himself injured and in Norse land. Its chapter 41 of the novel in English they released. EDIT: THANK YOU i never get more than 10 likes back or replys even thanks! P.S. I'll try to find the novel name!
@mohamadaiman76194 жыл бұрын
There's a novel? What is the title
@johnlloydvichozo1154 жыл бұрын
Title of the novel?
@YR-jg1gk4 жыл бұрын
@KenAlpha1 it cant be fenrir. Fenrir is the son of loki. Atreus wasnt born yet?
@muhammadfaathir88004 жыл бұрын
@KenAlpha1 may i ask the name of the novel?
@muhammadfaathir88004 жыл бұрын
@@YR-jg1gk probably time travel, The world serpent is supposedly also the son of loki and Spoiler Alert The ending when we got to joutenheim kratos and atreus journey already written
@rakshithec0796 жыл бұрын
You know what that eagle also makes a sense... Since at the end of god of war 3.. Kratos body was not shown...but his blood trace was of that of a eagle..!!!
@KaptainKuba6 жыл бұрын
exavtly, people say that, the blood trails means that he crawled or walked, but they didnt see him do so, im saying that it could have been dragged, think about it, the trail leads to to a cliff, are you telling me that he tried to kill himself and then proceeded to throw himself off a cliff? thanks for getting the theory lol
@leonkorno39276 жыл бұрын
LMAO NO, in Norse Mytholgy that eagle was meant to cast all of the winds in Helheim to blow vigorously, pick up a book
@Azrael420166 жыл бұрын
No your wrong the eagle represented Zeus and since kratos died on mount Olympus of course Zeus's symbol would be there
@rakshithec0796 жыл бұрын
louie galindo didn't you see the video.. the eagle symbol works as a helipad for a single large bird that moves along one mythology to another....
@Azrael420166 жыл бұрын
overlukk nope couldve cared less. And you don't know that for a fact but it could work i guess
6 жыл бұрын
When I saw the eagle, I was expecting it to become a boss right after I killed the guard.
@Broccoliclown4 жыл бұрын
Silent Human I literally ran and when the boat thing happened I was like at any moment we will be swallowed and I will never be able to trust again
@DsgSleazy4 жыл бұрын
Lmao same
@godgus18635 жыл бұрын
Why is nobody talking about how Athena was afraid Kratos will kill her with the blade of olympus, which means it could even kill a soul, please somebody notice this.
@teri9235 жыл бұрын
Source ?
@ethant13725 жыл бұрын
I don’t think he has a source, he was probably thinking that Athena was showing fear when it looked like Kratos was about to hit her. So assumed that Athena knows she could’ve died to the blade again.
@__silver__4 жыл бұрын
What?
@kratosmendez1004 жыл бұрын
Yet he swung it and it passed right through her, striking himself and stabbing himself with it. It didnt phase her at all...
@bigt49894 жыл бұрын
Robert Moroyoqui it didn’t hit her, he missed on purpose because his true intent was to kill himself
@Oz576 жыл бұрын
In Norse mythology, Hræsvelg is a giant in the shape of an eagle. His name means "the Swallower of corpses". The wings of this giant were so big that they produced an icy wind (Helgardh) which then blew on the world of the dead
@Efondle5 жыл бұрын
that's.. what the video said
@PonyBoy17765 жыл бұрын
The dude already said that in the vid??
@pancakes86705 жыл бұрын
@@noobkinghavel1054 what the fuck are you even on about?
@Netjer_gr85 жыл бұрын
@@noobkinghavel1054 Who would read a book these days about a myth bird? And why bring Christianity into this, people can believe what they want to believe in but dont disrespect their culture. Plus from what I remember Norse is a myth not Christianity otherwise people nowadays wouldn't believe in one God. Lol the only fool I see here is....you.
@JDHD995 жыл бұрын
noob king havel what the fuck are you oh about mate? Honestly shut the fuck up. It’s clear you know jack shit about Norse mythology.
@borntopwnyou4 жыл бұрын
"I had to get rid of several bosses" Please don't tell me this is the reason we had to fight multiple troll reskins throughout the game.
@thebatman684 жыл бұрын
Yeah it is
@larrytherustyboii74424 жыл бұрын
The valkyries were a reskin themselves as well.
@marcosantiago88213 жыл бұрын
@@larrytherustyboii7442 even the dark elves boss is just a steroid veriosn of the normal dark evles they got a little lazy tbh
@johkerx91073 жыл бұрын
Yeah the only downside to this game is the lack of notable bosses. Hopefully ragnarok has more variety
@BublySofaPotato3 жыл бұрын
Money and time. Game development teams biggest fears.
@vallerosso73764 жыл бұрын
The eagle is Hel. So the Loki's family represents four elements: Hel is an air element, Fenrir is an earth element, Jormungandr is a water element and Loki himself is a fire element as in original mythology he is known as a God of fire.
@graydonconnolly34784 жыл бұрын
Yes true. Although I’m not sure how faithful they’re going to be to actually Norse mythology judging by the fact Loki could not have had those children unless some weird time shit is going on
@gatomeong3 жыл бұрын
@@graydonconnolly3478 the weird time shit has already happened right? jormungandr got hit by thor so hard he went to the past
@thealien_ali33823 жыл бұрын
Loki has never been known as god of fire. He is known as the god of mischief and later called the evil god
@d.oughie3 жыл бұрын
good thought process but its actually Hræsvelgr hes a Jötunn who takes the form of a bird, travels to hel and eats souls that walk the bridge but in the game since all giants are "dead" he probably just chills there
@thomasdaywalt77353 жыл бұрын
Intresting theroy
@sporkionsuz-beero47445 жыл бұрын
Kratos: Watch your tongue boy! Boy: I won't. I am a god. We can do whatever... (Kratos punches)
@geekymetalhead51125 жыл бұрын
Atreus: What are you gonna do.....old man? *Kratos equips the Belt of punishment* BOOOOOOYYYYYYYYY Atreus: No Dad I'm sorry
@sungjinwoo38974 жыл бұрын
@@geekymetalhead5112 *Belt Of Chaos*
@sungjinwoo38974 жыл бұрын
@@geekymetalhead5112 *slipper leviathan*
@rosplayer15324 жыл бұрын
Hanger of Zeus
@spy43074 жыл бұрын
Tone not tongue
@mycodenameism43315 жыл бұрын
I just saw the eagle in the backround and just thought, "This must be the most action he's seen in years and must be interested, cause what else does he have as entertainment?"
@potato_aimxdd Жыл бұрын
Imagine thinking the bird could be an enemy while in ragnarok you casually talk to it and it even wants to retire to live a different life
@KevinLopez-dm2tb6 жыл бұрын
Hræsvelgr is one of three birds(you can interpret them as either eagles or roosters) that will signal the coming of Ragnarök. People shouldn’t consider Zeus for he is destroyed physically and spiritually and is long gone. The only thing close to us seeing Zeus would be for Kratos to relive the torture of his memories or the illusions in Helheim. Also to answer people’s questions about Kratos not dying. Remember even after Kratos had his powers as the God of War taken, he still retained some divine traits such as immortality and self regeneration. Also Corey Barlog himself stated that Kratos can’t die and he is cursed to live forever for the sins he’s committed. It was confirmed that Kratos wandered the Earth and found himself in Norway. Also Kratos is not Tÿr. Please stop. Kratos is the the demigod son of Zeus and Callisto with his Titan grandparents Cronos and Rhea and Primordial great grandparents Gaea and Ouranaos. Tÿr is Odin’s son and is the Nordic God of War but was killed off by Odin. Spartan men were encouraged to marry once they turned 20, but could not live with their families until they left the active military at age 30 (if they had no wife by the age of 30, they were required to get married by law). Kratos is obviously active military when he calls on Ares, and he has a young daughter. Therefore, Kratos is roughly 27 when he makes his deal with Ares. While we don't know how long he served Ares, his daughter doesn't age appreciably. He likely kills his family when he is 28. Ten years of service makes Kratos around 38 when he becomes the God of War. Daedalus's notes say about twelve years passed from when Zeus commissioned him to build the Labyrinth to when Daedalus is imprisoned within it. Since Zeus only discovers Pandora after Kratos kills Ares, and the feeble mortal Daedalus is still alive when Kratos arrives, Kratos was the God of War for twelve years, making him about 50. Now when we first use the realm travel room in Tyr's temple with Faye, she says that the temple has been 'asleep for 150 winters'. Now we can take that to mean it's been that long since Tyr died or at least the last time he used it, possibly due to Jörmungandr appearing, raising the water level and hiding the temple. Now later on in the game when Kratos and Atreus are making their way through Tyr's temple they find themselves in his treasure room and we see various artefacts from various realms and lands including a Greek vase with Kratos on it. So with the temple being 'asleep' for 150 years, the vase has been there for the same amount of time, possibly longer, So this is showing that Kratos is at the very least 150 years old.
@TheWijny5 жыл бұрын
Great points, but only it'snot given that Kratos is around 150 years old. In the game itself Mimir explains that different realms have different flows of time. Just putting that out here. 'flies away'
@anims81095 жыл бұрын
We also need to now that Mimir also has known Kratos
@ahmedsachwani28685 жыл бұрын
These facts are relevant since the way mimir expresses it “ghost of Sparta!!!!!” Means Keaton’s was a legend and tyr was a giant who mimir knew about sooooooo yeah
@gabri_flowz66715 жыл бұрын
So kratos is basically Cain in the bible?
@jdubisawesome05535 жыл бұрын
Your actually the best person to simplify this
@calebriffle79426 жыл бұрын
Kratos wondered the earth for hundreds of years until he ended up in Scandanavia. There he met Faye, a giantess warrior who he ended up having a child with. Kratos was made immortal when he took Hade’s soul. God of War takes place approximately 999-1,000 years after the events of God of War III, he wasn’t carried away by a Norse eagle or anything like that he simply roamed the world until he came to terms with his inner demons. I need to cover why I mentioned Hade’s soul, when Kratos absorbed the soul of Hades he was made completely immortal, making him extremely hard to kill and also making him ageless.
@NandoOW6 жыл бұрын
Caleb Riffle how is he ageless if hes considerably older. He says it himself that he doesnt have the same strength as before
@calebriffle79426 жыл бұрын
He’s just as strong as he was before, he just isn’t consumed by rage and the desire to destroy all Gods. That’s his flaw. It isn’t that he isn’t as physically powerful. He’s ageless because he’s immortal, he more than likely won’t age anymore. If you’re immortal you just stop aging a certain point.
@dixnyomouff69826 жыл бұрын
It's a video game soooo
@aronnemcsik6 жыл бұрын
His immortality was taken from him in God of war III when he stubbed himself with the Blade of Olympus!
@user-wq8km5hj2k6 жыл бұрын
@@aronnemcsik No it wasnt taken from him
@narakarrarr61915 жыл бұрын
I swear Eagle is the symbol of Zeus. Couldve just been his past haunting him...
@tuff3jay3 жыл бұрын
But didn't the eagle help them get out of helheim?
@shadow_hyperbolt3 жыл бұрын
@@tuff3jay the eagle didn’t do shit and if I remember correctly that is around the time hell started to show the past
@tuff3jay3 жыл бұрын
@@shadow_hyperbolt If one looks in the background during the section on the flying ship, Hraesvelg can be seen relentlessly batting his four wings as the ship sails (unlike normal Helheim events where he just sits still), implying that his wings are providing the ship's momentum
@whimzi48326 жыл бұрын
No matter who it is that thing gives me ducking anxiety lol
@EclipseeRaven4 жыл бұрын
It’s a bird
@justsomeguy63365 жыл бұрын
The entire theory about the eagle resurrecting Kratos because of the symbolism of Kratos suiciding on an eagle carving can be disproven based on one thing. The developers did not make GOW 3 with GOW 4 in mind. There was no thought of Norse mythology when making GOW 3.
@racewrld87535 жыл бұрын
@KingKuraii5 жыл бұрын
Lol ur saying that but kratos said to baldurthe same thing Zeus said to kratos on GOW3 right befor kratos killed baldur
@lancebrowning47705 жыл бұрын
True they didn't, but there is no reason why they couldn't make GOW 4 relate to GOW 3 in these manners, so you don't disprove anything.
@ricardovelasco21345 жыл бұрын
Just some guy it’s actually from god of war 2. I don’t know how people didn’t recognize it right away
@BosanskaSarma5 жыл бұрын
@@ricardovelasco2134 you mean the suicide thing? Naw chief thats gow 3
@hanseloliveira58295 жыл бұрын
Who is playing god of war in 2019
@nikiferrarilauda10065 жыл бұрын
Me it's so good😀
@bruv81174 жыл бұрын
Me , my brother and our friend play it and make progress together. This way we don't get bored of it, it's also an amasing game.
@thelightgamer13244 жыл бұрын
HANSEL OLIVEIRA me
@Boundless04 жыл бұрын
Me
@raider29534 жыл бұрын
HANSEL OLIVEIRA me
@Raytheus6 жыл бұрын
Just a side note: Kratos did NOT die in god of war 3. He walks away in the end, as signified by a blood trail leading to the horizon. At least he did NOT die on top of the engraving.
@KaptainKuba6 жыл бұрын
varanasi Deepak you dont know that, he could have been dragged
@ascended3136 жыл бұрын
And there was conveniently a boat right below the cliff?and he survived on a boat all the way to Norse myth?i don’t think so considering he got pierced by a giant sword,somebody probably dragged him or something,maybe tyr
@phillipharris98456 жыл бұрын
Him being dragged away by Tyr and ending up with Faye is kind of too strange to not be planned. He just happened to be a god killing machine who happened to end up with a woman who's people were massacred and hunted by gods.....that's not a plot hole anyone couldn't really figure out right?
@WilliamJoseph20156 жыл бұрын
I think Tyr is a story about Kratos past life which he has forgotten.
@mertserimer69286 жыл бұрын
@@KaptainKuba wrong. Game actually told that kratos cant kill himself. He is forbidden from suicide so he was never dead in the end of god of war 3. Game verifies it in its notes
@sharxtheguy13836 жыл бұрын
The eagle is probably Zeus himself. Zeus his signature animal was an eagle.
@KaptainKuba6 жыл бұрын
SharxTheGuy i did not consider that, it could.be
@ldc93996 жыл бұрын
Yeah considering the the first time you see the eagle you see a vision of zeus in hellheim
@jaquanbrown4136 жыл бұрын
Zeus is dead even mimir knows this
@isiahalcindor62786 жыл бұрын
SharxTheGuy nah the eagle is a yotunar that's gonna come during ragnarok it's in the actual myths
@themajesticspider-man61166 жыл бұрын
Kaptain Kuba Zeus is Kratos' enemy. He would want Kratos dead, not to revive him. Also, Zeus is dead, so...
@joshuasepeda32894 жыл бұрын
I still say that it makes more sense for each of these pantheons to have their own worlds instead of being separated only by geography on the same planet. First, Does anyone believe that Odin wouldn't attack Olympus if he knew about them? Next, the fact that each pantheon has its own Underworld means that they have to be separated on different worlds, otherwise we would have seen some evidence of Greeks in Helheim thanks to Kratos killing Hades. Third, we know that the only way to travel between the nine realms is by bifrost or opening a portal. I'm just not buying the idea that the Aesir and Olympians were on the same planet yet never came into contact with one another, the Aesir only knew of the Vanir because Freyr traveled between realms. They almost immediately declared war with them afterwards, Odin would have definitely done the same with Olympus. I think the more sensible explanation is: Faye traveled in the realm between realms like Tyr and found Kratos in the Greek world. She discovers his identity and uses her magic to bring him to Midgard for her purpose of defeating the Aesir, possibly falling in love with him in the process. If anyone has a better explanation I would like to hear it.
@futureimperfect69326 жыл бұрын
Eagle: You will not beat me again. Kratos: "Again?" But we've never fought before. Eagle: Oh yeah! Guess the uploader thought I was someone else. Kratos: It's cool. No harm done. Not yet at least. Haha. Eagle: Tell me about it. Haha.
@UziGameGP6 жыл бұрын
Future Imperfect. Kratos does not fucking "haha" BOY.
@davidcarson68646 жыл бұрын
You're all wrong, it's a rooster...
@landenschmidt53086 жыл бұрын
He would not sound like a boy. He would say “I wish to keep these sercomstantsomes” (sorry if I spelt wrong)
@raybradshaw65966 жыл бұрын
Landen Schmidt please tell me you weren't trying to spell *circumstances*
@ryanm3516 жыл бұрын
Future Imperfect 😂
@GeorgeS-l4n6 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure the way Kratos got to Midgard lies somewhere around Tyr. They mentioned several times that Tyr travelled a lot between distant worlds and they even found greek relics in Tyr's temple, including Kratos' favourite wine and even a drawing of him. So I am pretty sure Tyr was aware of Kratos' existence and went to fetch him. He even did not lack motives, having quite a few enemies on Asgard...
@KaptainKuba6 жыл бұрын
sounds good man
@donkeymama26 жыл бұрын
You should check out the theory where kraros is actually tyr. Cause of the way norse mythology is, it basically keeps repeating itself. Thats why the world serpent said atreus looked familiar. In the end you find out atreus is loki, and the world serpent is one of lokis kids. In ragnarock thor hit him so hard he sent him back in time (world serpent killed thor at the same time though). Thats also why the witch of the woods (forgot her name) said "nobody knows how the snake got there, he just appeared one day"
@silkytsunami6 жыл бұрын
Eric McCumber mind = blown
@kubilayyilmaz31325 жыл бұрын
Eric McCumber thor and world serpent fought before ragnarok mimir Said it thats how the timeline change and thor didnt die everything is written and the end of the game when you see kratos die on the wall Athreus is written as loki and kratos as Fárbauti. Tyr and feya was good friends and now each other very well tyr helped the giants alot so
@aaronmeade15464 жыл бұрын
"Let me stop being cocky" That's a good one I see what you did there..
@jack28195 жыл бұрын
6:36 turn on subtitles
@sungjinwoo38974 жыл бұрын
and fucked the eagle with jim
@sungjinwoo38974 жыл бұрын
him*
@engagementengagement88364 жыл бұрын
Gagagaggagag
@Flawless_Ray4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@soap29804 жыл бұрын
I have been carrying 2 live persons on my body all this time
@BiitoreinGoji945 жыл бұрын
1:36 BEST CALL TO ARMS EVER
@jessemagana45962 жыл бұрын
The novelization of God of War explains how Kratos survived, got to Midgard, and why he still has the Blades of Chaos.
@joshuabenton37856 жыл бұрын
4:08 near choked on me food
@Greensheep6275 жыл бұрын
I am inclined to ask if you were eating potatoes.
@calvinbarrett4375 жыл бұрын
Were you eating chicken or roosters I wanted to say cock but I didn't want it to come out like that.
@mikehutv90985 жыл бұрын
@KaptainKuba If you pay attention to the bird the entire time though, it almost seems like the bird is helping Kratos and Atreus leave Helheim, after the turn (when you get a close up to them bird and you start heading in the direction of Tyrs Temple (this actually happens twice), THE EAGLE IS FLAPPING HIS WINGS TOWARDS TYR's TEMPLE!!!!!!!!! This birds wings apparently cause the winds to blow, so if this bird is the giant transformed into an eagle and is A GIANT, he probably knows Atreus is a Giant too, so he was helping him leave Helheim. Another theory, if this version of the eagle is the transformed giant, and he plays a part in Ragnarok, maybe the bird knows about Atreus and how he is Loki, so in order for destiny to be fulfilled, he needed to help Atreus escape hell in order for Ragnarok to be fulfilled. I think there is even mention by Mimir that as long as the winds blow us towards Tyrs Temple we will get there. But overall, i think this theory is highly plausible and almost true. Please give me your thoughts.
@KaptainKuba5 жыл бұрын
I didnt notice that the bird flapped his wings to help us, good observation, its like you say, he defenetly seems to be helping atreus, making him knowledgeable of the future
@lalob.59275 жыл бұрын
TOO MUCH INFORMATION!!!!
@nicholasyoungblood64032 жыл бұрын
Ok so the eagle Is the eagle that sits atop the world tree flapping its wings and creating the winds across all the nine realms. He is flapping his wings because he is exchanging insults with the Nidhogg and the base of the world tree through Ratatoskr. Historical the eagle is actually a nameless giant in the form of an eagle with a hawk sitting on its head named Veðrfölnir but the eagle is mostly commonly referred to as Hhraesvelgr. It is also said that the Eagle and the Nidhogg will fight eachother at Ragnarok.
@alexandermerlos95356 жыл бұрын
The Eagle is Khabib lol
@husainabbas_6 жыл бұрын
Alexander Merlos haha
@husainabbas_6 жыл бұрын
good one
@muss20556 жыл бұрын
yeah man, he smashed that baldur mcgregor face
@timothycarlsson90825 жыл бұрын
@@vv-yq2sp bruh
@keand.11325 жыл бұрын
damn that was heavy
@epineda11245 жыл бұрын
It’s Hraesvelgr, if you actually watch closely when you’re riding the floating ship out of Helheim and get an up close look you can see him stretch and flap all 4 of his wings and Hraesvelgr is a giant (Jotunn) who takes the form of a giant eagle with 4 wings. For the people that think it’s one of the roosters, does that thing look like a damn chicken? Which leads me to think that a lot of people have never ever seen a chicken in real life before. I think some of you need to get out more, maybe spend a little less time behind a keyboard and monitor and actually go outside for once, read a book, or hell do something other than playing video games so you’ll know the difference between a chicken and an eagle.
@djghostface2924 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why you would make a theory video on this game without knowing what you’re talking about... Kratos didn’t die in GOW3, the game literally shows you that he survived and walked away. And no, the eagle didn’t bring him to Midgard as Cory Barlog himself confirmed that Kratos walked/traveled for years until he reached the realm of Norse mythology.
@brotherbob38514 жыл бұрын
Kratos is such a bad ass to walk to into another realm
@kasv41035 жыл бұрын
KHABIB, no question.
@1-25193 жыл бұрын
He’s could maul kratos
@kasv41033 жыл бұрын
@@1-2519 30 and 0 😀
@thor13783 жыл бұрын
@@kasv4103 i hope he will return😢
@pesho59283 жыл бұрын
@@thor1378 scared from connor
@thor13783 жыл бұрын
@@pesho5928 👀
@nikitastsoris64905 жыл бұрын
5:18 "afraid" there ain't that word in his vocabulary
@stephenharrison92145 жыл бұрын
I was going to post something similar to this lolol Kratos eats sand, and shits glass.
@That3th32 жыл бұрын
Kratos was wandering around the different worlds after killing the Greek gods, you can see it in some comics canonically taking place between 3 and 4
@guiltygearcore6 жыл бұрын
I think that is the giant Hraesvelg (“corpse eater”) sits at the edge of the world, overlooking Helheim. In the form of an eagle with flapping wings he makes the wind blow.
@KaptainKuba6 жыл бұрын
thats who my theory said it was
@liovious4 жыл бұрын
You literally copied this from someone else.
@djzrota6 жыл бұрын
Ah the very topic of conversation. A phoenixed eagle not attacking a child. The link between GOW 3 bird depiction in the rocks is very sounding. Very sounding and promising too. In the case of the eagle being a giant, I can see a reason for the cut of content. In the case of the eagle not being a giant but still the beast that brought Kratos back to life and to Midgard, a boss battle is still possible due to either a memory relived or time travel. Or an upcoming circumstance with triggers. One thing is for sure, Ragnarok will be about big things going down. Lots of love, war, betrayal and loyalty. We need more info on the mythology, and probable some more rune translations.
@KaptainKuba6 жыл бұрын
I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said, can wait for the next game!!!
@BerntBaloney136 жыл бұрын
I could help with rune translation... although there are 2 meaning to the runes there are letters and personal readings like tarret cards
@zackmelauin14446 жыл бұрын
Zierota Gaming kratos never dies in gow 3. It's has been confirmed for that😑😑
@tacticalbacon11886 жыл бұрын
There is no love in Ragnarok, only death.
@justsomeguy63365 жыл бұрын
The GOW 3 developers did not make it with GOW 4 in mind so that eagle carving thing just goes right out the window.
@johnbraucher14994 жыл бұрын
It really would be nice to have some of these gaps of knowledge and story filled.
@creepymaster95845 жыл бұрын
i thought that eagle in hel was zeus and didnt know there was a engraved eagle in gow 3 wtf
@fappjack00676 жыл бұрын
Actually it's a rooster, one of the three roosters whose crowing is foretold to signify the beginning of the events of Ragnarok. This one in Hel is unnamed, but the other two names are Gullinkambi and Fjalar i think.
@KaptainKuba6 жыл бұрын
it could be, but i would have to see him crow
@treyrz80236 жыл бұрын
Kaptain Kuba the three birds are either roosters or ravens in the myths. I do like your theory and it makes sense, but since ragnarok is mentioned so much in the game I feel like the three ravens/roosters are more likely
@Galaxy-zo7us6 жыл бұрын
Its Hraesvelgr. A giant that takes the form of an eagle.
@jansolarz81726 жыл бұрын
Fappjack 00 It was confirmed tp be an Eagle by the devs
@HighAltitudeScoutSquirrel6 жыл бұрын
Jan Solarz where was this confirmed?
@u.b.w32872 жыл бұрын
In Norse mythology, Veðrfölnir, is a hawk sitting between the eyes of an unnamed eagle that is perched on top of the world tree Yggdrasil. There is no records of Veðrfölnir located in Hel because it always stays in the Yggdrasil tree. Source: trust me, or search a video of norse mythology in YT.
@JBurnz0016 жыл бұрын
Idk I think the theory of it being Hela (Loki’s daughter who is a giant) fits more with the story. Since she is not bound by time so she could easily be alive since she is the ruler of Hel
@oscarsanchez55876 жыл бұрын
JBurnz001 Jormungand and Fenrir are of course animql-like giants so it wo7ld be interesting if Hel was one too
@kuro-raiki-gpc19156 жыл бұрын
In the mithology she isn't anything like that, she's a two face girl, from a side a beautiful lady and from the other a dead girl. So I don't think so... yeah, they can change it and give her that appereance but I really don't think so...
@oscarsanchez55876 жыл бұрын
Raiki The Key of the Brain I know how Hel's apperence is but i just thought that s8nce Santa Monica changes mythoogy to fit the story, my real qyestion is how would she aid Kratos and Atreus(Loki) and the giants like Surtr by giving her army even thought they attempted to kill Kratos himself in Ragnarok
@goldenfreeza6826 жыл бұрын
Oscar Sanchez Martinez that's not possible because Atreus is Loki and it would be kinda fucked up if Loki/Atreus has kids in the age of 10
@oscarsanchez55876 жыл бұрын
Golden Freeza ragnarpk occurs in the future so im saying when he's older also where was it referenced that he's 10??
@walknel6504 жыл бұрын
I think that it might be the Norse version of the sisters of fate. In GOW 2 when you are trying to reach to the sisters, there is a big winged statue/person that you see when getting the humans to translate the carvings. Looks a lot like the eagle in Helheim.
@botatobias25394 жыл бұрын
7:45 God of War Ghost of Sparta: you get your giant eagle boss fight (Erinys)
@pac-vy1nj6 жыл бұрын
Cant be from the eagle. Kratos said to freya he didnt kno this hell. Also he didnt die his blood trails from the cliff after gow3
@isiahalcindor62786 жыл бұрын
2 pac nah it's a dormant yotunar that's gonna awaken during ragnarok
@wearsjorge556 жыл бұрын
2 pac for all we know his body could have been dragged away
@brickjames50206 жыл бұрын
Balder dying starts ragnarok
@TheRobguydudeman6 жыл бұрын
For all we know you and biggie still alive
@jumbo_shrimp4705 жыл бұрын
That’s how they need to start the sequel. Like that’s how you start the game and then you wake up just like the end credits scene
@EclipseeRaven4 жыл бұрын
I love you’re image
@internetghost4694 жыл бұрын
All these comments saying this is stupid because the eagle is already explained in mythology keep forgetting one thing: In Greek Mythology, Pandora was made by Hepheastus at the request of Zeus to punish mortals for accepting stolen fire. The gods each blessed Pandora and sent her to the mortals so she could open the box and unleash evil everywhere along with hope. But in the game tho.... Plus Helios isn't an Olympian but he is in the game. And half the REAL Olympians are missing. Seriously, where's Demeter, Hestia, Apollo, Artemis, and Dyonisus? Just because its in the mythology, doesn't mean the game will follow it to every detail!
@r3d_i5oljah556 жыл бұрын
Good theory. But i think with the approach of not putting the big bird in the game was a good idea. If they added a big epic boss fight in the beginning then it would quickly lose its stigma. The game would have yo follow up with that kind of epicness through out. So the approach with hiw the game ended up is a good way to kick it off. They already gave a taste of whats to come.
@shock48444 жыл бұрын
I was playing yesterday and I ran to the edge to get a closer look and I was like “come on, I wanna fight”
@Aquarius0032 жыл бұрын
Shovel Knight is cannon. Shows Kratos during his travels. Kratos also arrived in the Egyption Pantheon before Midgard.
@bb-36536 жыл бұрын
That snakes voice is lit. kratos' voice still wins the trophy though😂
@azndrgnboi346 жыл бұрын
BB- BRANZ heck ya! Playing that scene with volume turned up really made the hairs in back of my neck stand up!
@ahmadidheileh64886 жыл бұрын
Yup, matches him well
@ascended3136 жыл бұрын
ikr,if kratos was telling me to jump off a cliff I would do it just because of his voice
@FirstLast-ll8zq5 жыл бұрын
ATREUS, TO ME.
@dannyfrancisco75135 жыл бұрын
GoW II PSV...just wait
@cody1k4186 жыл бұрын
I’ve honestly been wondering how Kratos has the blades of chaos because Ares took them
@KaptainKuba6 жыл бұрын
Cody 1k right_??? I think it went past a lot of people
@af30076 жыл бұрын
Their the blades of exile, different blades from Athena
@KaptainKuba6 жыл бұрын
no the ones in the game are the blades of chaos, even though the they are similar, you can check that they are not, also i have theory for the blades coming august 1st
@cody1k4186 жыл бұрын
Kaptain Kuba Looking back on it now aren’t all the chained blades gone
@KaptainKuba6 жыл бұрын
Cody 1k yeah basically
@joederp75122 жыл бұрын
If you finish all the treasure hunts on the Lake of the nine you will know how Kratos got to midgard. The map that leads to the Captain's keys treasure on the island of the Dead has your answer.
@sal191_6 жыл бұрын
I* immediately liked* when I sensed your humor in the beginning of the video.
@KaptainKuba6 жыл бұрын
hahhaah im glad you liked my cheesy humor lol
@SntMgn_HQfficial4 жыл бұрын
The Eagle is actually Dio's bird, petshop.
@painvillegaming41193 жыл бұрын
You tought it was zeus BUT IT WAS I DIO
@noooooooo92982 жыл бұрын
I love how when he was explaining how the fight would have been he shows the fight against avion in shadow of the colossus
@DVRKSTXR6 жыл бұрын
That eagle still haunts my goddamned dreams. 😱🤯
@EclipseeRaven4 жыл бұрын
Why it’s fucking bird
@blackstardragon_6 жыл бұрын
The Eagle has 4 wings!
@KaptainKuba6 жыл бұрын
sure, the engraved eagle doesn't have to be an exact representation
@thickdickmusclereaction3276 жыл бұрын
Kaptain Kuba I'm pretty sure it does.
@offdabean6 жыл бұрын
THICK DICK MUSCLE REACTION no it doesn’t lmao. zeus never had dreadlocks but in god of war 3 he did
@lSenzuBeansl6 жыл бұрын
Moober Doober that’s because Sony sucks at making hair In video games
@blackstardragon_6 жыл бұрын
Moober Doober Yeah it does. I have the collectors edition with art book.
@John-ir9tb5 жыл бұрын
It was said by Cory Barlog that Kratos was cursed by the gods that way he couldn’t kill himself. This was because a prophet had seen Kratos killing himself so the gods cursed him to live in grief instead of killing himself and dying in peace. Did you do any research?
@BGoodTheArtist5 жыл бұрын
"This theory answers the question in a meaning that's probable, but yet unreasonable." 😂 Honesty is the best policy.
@justdontcryplease48184 жыл бұрын
BGoodTheArtist he said but, and reasonable... listen kid
@LeoTelles3 жыл бұрын
I love this game and i love videos about theory of games. And i love that there's a lot of great games to make good theories about!
@TheySeeMe3 жыл бұрын
Hræsvelgr In Norse mythology, Hræsvelgr (Old Norse "Corpse Swallower") is a giant who takes the form of an eagle. According to stanza 37 of the poem Vafpruonismal from the Poetic Edda, he sits at the end of the world (or the northern edge of the heavens) and causes the wind to blow when he beats his wings in flight.
@Drpissed3 жыл бұрын
When they said 'steal the heart of the bridge watcher' I genuinely thought it was the giant vulture/eagle thing. My was I disappointed to see it was just another re-skinned troll fight
@vivekslogic2 жыл бұрын
Atreus: Are we going to kill it ? Kratos: If it comes in our way....... Mimir: Ohhhhh..... It definitely will brother........
@eduardmihai6 жыл бұрын
But what if Tyr brought him to the North? Since he knew how to travel to realms? And he make him fall in love with Feya (or what is was her name). I mean Tyr was against Odin and want to fight against him but he die so this was his second plan maybe. This is a theory about how Kratos end up to North. About the eagle, i don't know. Maybe is a symbol of the Raknarok and announce when it starts. I can't wait to see the new game. And i think is happen when the Raknarok begin. Since everyone was talking about Raknarok and saying that it's about to begin it most likely to be in the new game.
@RosaRodriguez-gp3gn6 жыл бұрын
Eduard Mihay faye
@eduardmihai6 жыл бұрын
Wub Zero Thanks 👍😁
@abdulbah21765 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Tyr already dead that time?
@charlierashi1005 жыл бұрын
Joe Johnson that comment makes no sense
@iiverseus39855 жыл бұрын
Eduard Mihay I lost brain cells while reading this😂
@kiloxman1173 жыл бұрын
I felt more connected to the story being the way that it was. It’s like a new kratos & im okay with him being a dad for now 😂
@mrkian87012 жыл бұрын
Corps eater WAS MENT to be a boss... The boss battle was meant to start when both kratos and Atreus went into the flying boat and get near him after the boss was defeat kratos didn't kill corps eater cause instead corp's eater will use his wing to create power full wind Wich end up pushing the boat heading towards tyrs Temple.. I think mimie actually told a story about the bird
@jesuschrist95135 жыл бұрын
It's could be Hraesvilgr, a creature from Norse myth that sits by the edge of the world and creates cold wind with its wings. I don't know if he and Kratos have fought before, I haven't played any GoW games. I just watch videos on it.
@SamSheikh216 жыл бұрын
Well to be honest i never notice Eagle in god of war 3 😂😂 this theory actually make sense keep it up bro 👌
@KaptainKuba6 жыл бұрын
thanks, glad you liked it
@mohammadaminrajabi18284 жыл бұрын
I think I know how Kratos survived. After the credits video of God of war 3, we saw a short clip that starts where Kratos killed himself but we didn't see Kratos' body anymore. There was only blood and the blade of Olympus. Then the camera follows the Kratos' blood to the edge of the mountain where it shows the chaos. The scene was like that Kratos stood up and throw himself in the sea. We know that Kratos killed Poseidon. If you remember, Poseidon was able to heal himself with touching the water and Percy Jackson(son or grandson of Poseidon) healed himself too(in Percy Jackson movie). When Kratos jumped into the sea his wound healed and that was how he survived after killing himself with the Blade of Olympus. You can find the clip on KZbin just search the clip after the credits of GOW 3.
@chrislynporlares88294 жыл бұрын
"You forgot about that zeus change to an eagle too" Oh youre here
@maxmain97yearsand283 жыл бұрын
That is zeus we can see it
@NIGHTMARE_KRATOS6 жыл бұрын
Its really amazingg you deserve a lotttttt of viewss😍😍
@KaptainKuba6 жыл бұрын
thanks man
@GPL902 жыл бұрын
Not mysterious at all it's supposed to be Hræsvelgr, even tho he is ment to be sat at the top of all 9 realms not just in Helheim he is responsible for the winds in all the realms and does indeed swallow corpses.
@galbert1174 жыл бұрын
They still could have had this opening boss fight, even if it was just a last hurrah to the old God of War games' boss fights. They could have shown that he was outmatched, given that he didn't have any weapons and then gone into your explanation of their fight.
@liammurphy30624 жыл бұрын
No
@Konaruhi6 жыл бұрын
[Random Philosophy Rambling] That almost topped the horn-blowing eagle, but the eagle is the clear winner. Anyways, great theory as always. I honestly never noticed that Kratos died on that eagle in GOW 3. Something that I DID notice though, was Kratos' lack of the new stomach scar from that death in GOW3. The scar that Kratos has on his stomach in the new GOW is identical to the one that Zeus gave him in GOW2. (Unless Kratos literally stabbed himself in the EXACT same spot Zeus did). I don't know if it's connected or not, it just seemed kinda weird to me since the designers always paid attention to scar detail and made sure to give Kratos proper battle damage as the series progressed. It just seems kinda out of place for them to just say "yeah just keep the same scar for no reason".
@KaptainKuba6 жыл бұрын
Konaruhi hahaa im glad you like the cheese jokes, you know i i havent looked at.kratos's stomach yet, ill have check if he has two scars, someone else comment about there being two kratos, its an old theory, but if you're right about the scar, it might have so gas to run with, btw where's your video young lady?, ive been waiting for a while
@Konaruhi6 жыл бұрын
Kaptain Kuba The video is coming soon. I thought I'd be all cool and try to use a new program, but it required me to download the video off my phone to my laptop, then render it, then post it. Normally I just post it straight from my phone. I'll have to figure out another way to get it on my computer because it took an hour to download from my phone for some reason 😒 I'm editing it now. It should be like another hour before KZbin renders it. I'm sorry for the wait 😟
@KaptainKuba6 жыл бұрын
Konaruhi nice, so you finally got a video editing program, your youtube work will twice as a easy now
@Konaruhi6 жыл бұрын
Kaptain Kuba Hahaha yeah I got an awesome program, the only downside is that it takes FOREVER to render. I got 30 more minutes of rendering in the program, then however long it's going to take to post on KZbin. I'm trying to get it posted before 9pm hahaha it's taking foreverrrrrr
@velqnpetrov436 жыл бұрын
Konaruhi in his back there is a massive scar that almost cover his entire back. Put some armor that allow you to see it
@droslayyc95544 жыл бұрын
My theory is kratos used his wings or boots of Hermès to get across the ocean
@noamazur45724 жыл бұрын
0:47 called him balrog instead of barlog 😂
@guts47674 жыл бұрын
Noa Mazur lol I remember someone asking cory barlog "how many times people called you cory balrog?" He answered "A lot"
@basela.78236 жыл бұрын
Or, simply, Kratos travelled away from the land he destroyed by destroying its gods. Yeah, people could travel without cars and airplanes in the past *Mindblown*. He had at least 150 years to reach Midgard, because you know, he is at least 150 years old in this God of War (watch videos on that).
@tfos9936 жыл бұрын
Basel A. How did he "travel" though? How are the titans and Greek gods connected to the norse ones? The game mentioned traveling between "realms" while showing symbols of different mythologies. How did kratos travel between the Greek realm and the norse one without knowing how before the big travel room.
@KniGht1st12 жыл бұрын
You can't just travel to another realm and try to steal their god's corpse and bring it back to your realm to revive. It's like if Ragnorak happens before Krato went berserk on Greek Mythology, Athena randomly decided to steal Thor's corpse and revive it in Mt. Olympus and use him to fight Zeus.
@Alex_FRD6 жыл бұрын
4:08 This is just hilarious.
@afsarahmad45584 жыл бұрын
Alex FRD it really isn’t
@DemonKRr2 жыл бұрын
@@afsarahmad4558 fax
@danutbarbu66835 жыл бұрын
Maybe its the eagle from god of war 2
@bossjunior2055 жыл бұрын
Phoenix
@BosanskaSarma5 жыл бұрын
No. Just no.
@mihnea-um5gy4 жыл бұрын
Yeah i agree. Looks exactly like The sisters of fate temple
@dd1302dd2 жыл бұрын
Kaptain Kuba:makes GoW theories also Kaptain Kuba:puts Shadow of Collossos game paly
@african_baron4 жыл бұрын
Bro your theories don’t be making sense u over reaching u started off with a point then u just lost us
@SirMicahBroch4 жыл бұрын
Isn't that what a theory is? Wishful thinking? And reaching?
@toddbadrak55525 жыл бұрын
Midgard is earth. Therefore greece is in midgard, explaining how kratos got there. A little currency and a boat ride can get you pretty far. Lol
@royalenigma4344 жыл бұрын
Think of it like the multiverse from marvel. Kratos comes from a different universe. There are multiple midguards, just the one that kratos came from wasnt called midguard, nor is it connected to the other realms tied to midguard like asguard for example
@senegoid73542 жыл бұрын
Kratos wouldn't have the leviathan axe if he just arrived in Midgard via bird
@satansfavloco6 жыл бұрын
I can't believe nobody even mentions that the eagle looks like that big bird thing from God of War 2, when you're making your way to the sisters of fate!
@KaptainKuba6 жыл бұрын
I did remember but, it couldnt be the same, that was the fate's temple, this one is alive
@davidmagar99846 жыл бұрын
I think it is a different one, that one was phoenix made from fire eternal bird.
@FabledHeroes33516 жыл бұрын
What if and this is just a little theory but what if it’s Zeus he can transform into an eagle and the fact that Kratos started hallucinating about Zeus while it was right next to the damn thing come on that’s to obvious
@KaptainKuba6 жыл бұрын
yeah if heard that theory before, its plausible
@KevinLopez-dm2tb6 жыл бұрын
J Double C Zeus is long gone and is dead physically and spiritually. The Greek world is left behind and no this is the giant Hræsvelgr who is one of the three birds(giants) who will signal the coming of Ragnarök
@hud-hud6272 жыл бұрын
If you look at the image of kratos bleeding you showed there is a eagle under him carved in the stone look closely
@the_batmobile0.43 жыл бұрын
That eagle is in god of war 2 though, remember when kratos beat up that old man to read the book?
@RakeshDas-sh3cy3 жыл бұрын
That eagle was the temple of fates...
@saularchundia5 жыл бұрын
4:09 to 4:12 made me laugh so hard 💀💀
@aledg254 жыл бұрын
The way it's perched at a far distance just overseeing everything reminds me of Avion from shadow of the colossus. So big and majestic.
@TheGoldenEmperor6 жыл бұрын
Dude i was creeped out when i saw it when i was killing the bridge keeper
@KaptainKuba6 жыл бұрын
Sorry what?
@TheGoldenEmperor6 жыл бұрын
Kaptain Kuba i just read my comment and i dont even know what i said, i was trying to say that i got creeped out by the eagle when i first saw it
@TheGoldenEmperor6 жыл бұрын
Kaptain Kuba and meant bridge keeper
@KaptainKuba6 жыл бұрын
@@TheGoldenEmperor ahhhh i se, yeah i know what you mean, very ominous
@isaiahjmartin6 жыл бұрын
I thought that was just Hela
@KaptainKuba6 жыл бұрын
what makes you think that?
@TaydolfSwifter6 жыл бұрын
Kaptain Kuba add a sprinkle of imagination and the knowledge of helas other siblings are animals , the world serpent, frnrir the wolf, the 6 or was it 8 legged horse that odin rides Just a thought