GR Supra Manual vs Auto - Which Should You BUY?

[@chrisginoc]

You can't go wrong with either. I grew up with manual so I chose the 2023 A91 6MT. The automatic is faster than any human can shift. This is my weekend car, garage queen. If I'm gonna have a weekend car there is no way I'm getting an automatic. Life is too short. Automatic is better for those who are going to be daily driving the Supra or want to drag race like real life is the Fast and the Furious movie.

[@CarGuy11]

Totally understand your reasons.

[@shenray337]

Manual is the best.

[@2006chunming]

In my opinion, the manual makes it more of a sports car. Definitely yes the auto is faster. But this supposed to be 2 seater sport car. Also is just more fun and engaging to drive. The Auto u just get in and it just drives. The manual gives it more of a personality because you feel like your actually driving. You definitely feel the accelartion more, the torque and control. Also I personally I think once everything is said and done the manual will retain or even go up in value over the Auto. That's something people are not really talking about.

[@CarGuy11]

Definitely more rare and will hold its value better.

[@fredschrader1014]

Almost 78 year old man had many cars some stick some auto most had similar prices for either drive a-91 carbon fiber auto i enjoy this car alot once you have had 5 or 10 stick shifted cars you just might mellow your strong opinions and enjoy them both

[@CarGuy11]

Yep both great for sure!

[@overlordtype25]

Im still gonna get this car in auto that 8 speed is fantastic!

[@CarGuy11]

Yep I agree it is!

[@Iceh4wkvideos]

Would you pick this over your C7 now that it's in a manual?

[@heh2k]

How's the on-off throttle, manual vs auto? Does the manual feel tighter?

[@haytch1598]

The main question is what holds value you more and which will sell quicker on resale manuel or auto?

[@CarGuy11]

Likely the manual will hold its value more as there are less of them.

[@threadoflife]

Manual will absolutely be a limited collector car long term and much more desirable because they will be Supra hard to find no pun intended lol IMO of course take it with a grain of salt we will see what the future brings with these mark ups on the MT no one wins there anyway unless you find a deal PP! 👍

[@kobedabest]

If you're worried about value in a car, that means you couldn't afford it in the first place.

[@haytch1598]

@kobedabest its an investment dummy, I have a 2023 LC sahara, the sport car will be a weekender. Ps, I buy my cars outright, so not sure what your sniffing 🤣🤣🤣

[@GregoryDurling]

I wonder which holds up better to hp increases. In an ~800 hp auto, I can feel the the gears starting to slip.

[@CarGuy11]

Good question! We know the Auto limits but haven’t heard about the manual.

[@GregoryDurling]

@@CarGuy11 You would need to upgrade the clutch. There is a twin disk plus flywheel kit that can handle up to 1000 ft-lbs torque, and people are saying it is not too aggressive for the street. They also released a hydraulic bearing upgrade that supposedly removes the weaker mechanical components. I think clutch masters makes it.

[@davothegreat9990]

I want to see the manual vs auto lined up for a race and see the difference.

[@CarGuy11]

Believe me it will be a significant difference.

[@davothegreat9990]

@CarGuy11 well Carwow got 12.1 secs in the Supra manual.

[@williamc4353]

I’ve seen 5.0 coyote mustangs stock for stock manual versus the 10 speed automatic and the manual just can’t keep up… So if you’re looking for 0 to 60, quarter mile, stop light to stoplight the auto unfortunately is definitely the fastest rowing gears is more engaging for sure.

[@LucidLoki]

I think for the most part, people who don’t like manual are gen Y-z’s who don’t know how to drive one and don’t know what they’re missing, or older/lazy ppl. Don’t get me wrong, I have an auto 335i with xhp stage 3, and yes its fun, but just can’t compare to a manual as far as driver engagement and rpm control.

[@williamc4353]

I have had seven mustangs all manual and my last Mustang was a Shelby Gt500 six speed manual. Shifting gears is awesome but I’ve been doing it so long. I’m looking for a change. My brother-in-law has a GTR and driving that is so fast. There’s no way would want that in a manual so I feel the supra with that auto and if I get bored with it, I sell it and buy something else :)

[@ABCDEFG-sp2pg]

Im new to cars so this is a genuine question. Is manual shifting on automatic cars (using the stick, not the pedals) the same as using sequential shifters?

[@CarGuy11]

Yes manual shifting an Auto with paddles or the stick is the same.

[@billy0936]

Manual always. I like feeling part of the vehicle.

[@CarGuy11]

Fair enough.

[@wackit6756]

I LOVE my '21' auto, thought I would trade it in when the manuals got here, but the huge deficit in gas mileage, the lack of adaptive cruise control, and the gouging of at least $5000-$10,000 (Calif.) over sticker makes me love mine even more. (I get my 6 speed joy's driving my '19 Honda Civic SI Coupe as a daily). As a side note, I wish I could talk to whatever committee approved the design on the Supra for that hideous steering wheel (skinny rim, huge center pie plate, overall ugly design), and the most unsexy and awkward automatic gear shift lever of any modern car.😕

[@CarGuy11]

Haha and they tried to spruce up the steering wheel for 2023 😆

[@joelrosario4272]

Did you experience oil consumption with your 2021 Supra?

[@LucidLoki]

In a sports car I gotta have a manual. For my BMW sport sedans , paddle shifters are perfect.

[@CarGuy11]

I can understand that.

[@threadoflife]

No adaptive Cruise wth! My 2021 CTR FK8 had it and it’s MT that makes no sense come on Toyota! Big fail there IMO it’s nice to have even in a manual I used it all the time on the highway with the lane keeping assist on the freeway! Bummer dude! Fail 🤦‍♂️

[@CarGuy11]

Yeah once you have that feature it’s hard to go without ha!

[@paulmoons]

I find automatics boring. And using the adaptive cruise control feature as a reason would make sense if this wasn't.. you know, a sports car. Sports cars are about driving, not letting the car drive you! Anyone buying an automatic over a manual in a sports car in 2023 needs their head read.

[@CarGuy11]

Haha I knew that comment was coming lol.

[@paulmoons]

@@CarGuy11 Hahah.. It's interesting because its just another "automatic" feature. Sure, like the fuel economy and the few tenths of lost speed, it's a fair point but surely it should be weighted. I guess what I am saying is that in 2019 when the Supra Mk V was first released, if the car came out with a manual gearbox but omitted all forms of cruise control, do you honestly believe anyone would've really cared? 💁‍♂

[@CarGuy11]

Honestly I would have went for manual if it was released with one but I’m thrilled with the Auto and have a manual C7 so it’s perfect for me.

[@PersonalUseChannel]

doesn't automatic version have dual clutch transmission? so it has a quicker response?

[@paulmoons]

@@PersonalUseChannel 😂 No.

[@mikehawk5466]

Depends on shifter feel. If I can’t groove with it then I’ll just use paddles. I own both manual and automatics, I genuinely do not care.

[@CarGuy11]

This shifter feels pretty good.

[@christinedenne2781]

Perfect Pittsburgh color!! Sharp color. Nice review!! Can’t go wrong with any Toyota!

[@CarGuy11]

Haha true thanks!!

[@nezufuu]

We can only get second-hand Supras here so that’s already a limiting factor for the consumers. People who wants them would just take whatever’s available.

[@CarGuy11]

Wow where is that?

[@nezufuu]

@@CarGuy11 Brunei Darussalam

[@chartreux8673]

I ordered an automatic Supra. If you choose a manual, it's definitely more fun to use the GR86. Based on my experience with many manual transmission vehicles, the manual operation is reflected in the driving of a vehicle with low engine power and low torque.

[@CarGuy11]

I can agree with that.

[@19hundoc47]

Go drive a manual c7 z06 corvette and tell me you still think that lol

[@jmb2027]

2:24 the MT wheels are so sunken, especially in the rear.

[@CarGuy11]

Yes I have wheel spacers on mine. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oWa2o4KiZt1jftU

[@juanduarte2240]

My man is complaining about the placement of the reverse gear, and the lack of adaptive cruise control?! Someone pls get a purist to accurately compare this two cars

[@oldschool110111]

CarGuy - love the videos. I'm in a situation where I'm looking at a new manual supra (3.0) or a used 2018-2019 C7 Grand Sport in manual. Both come in around $60k. You've had the unique experience of owning and/or driving both. SUPRA: B58 is a hero, good build quality, car is new, but cabin is small and may be claustrophobic. C7: NA V8 is still badass, targa roof, build quality could be an issue, car is used. What's your opinion? I know I have to sit in both but what's your gut call here. Much thanks.

[@CarGuy11]

Oh wow tough call but I’d take a na manual over a turbo manual because of the improved throttle response. Appreciate you watching and let me know what you decide!

[@threadoflife]

MT for me all the way!

[@adrianowallin]

Kinda sad review tbh. I’m a manual c7 owner so I know you get your manual feels from yours as well. But let’s just say you didn’t have the manual c7, would you still choose the auto supra over the manual?

[@CarGuy11]

Definitely a tough choice but since you feel the turbo lag more with the manual I’d still choose the Auto.

[@JBreezzBeatz]

I need one of those t-shirts!

[@CarGuy11]

Haha a friend got me it!

[@robme3660]

I'd still go with manual. It's just more fun.

[@CarGuy11]

Fair enough.

[@KimNgo-f9u]

No reason the get automatic 😂

[@Opine.Social]

My wife won't drive a manual so I guess it has to be the auto!

[@CarGuy11]

Not a bad compromise lol.

[@jonnyspeed]

Manual is always the answer. Always...

[@CarGuy11]

Haha have you driven the auto?

[@AgelessEl]

You just remind me about missing adaptive cruise control. Nope.

[@CarGuy11]

Haha

[@raffydelfin1956]

Automatic of course

[@1StickStang]

cant drive fs🤣

[@highorbit3282]

i didnt even watch the video. im just saying manual is the way to go. Even with the most sophisticated system youre just pointing the car not driving. If their auto is a second faster who cares about that if its a daily driver. A manual is much more engaging more fun and its a lost art that makes one part of an exclusive club.

[@CarGuy11]

Cool but you should still watch the video 😂🤣