GRIMNAR RECRUITING THE SUCCESSORS? RELATIONSHIP WITH THE ULTIMA FOUNDING!

Hi all Rho here! Today we discuss the relationship of the Space Wolves with their new Ultima founding successors!
General Spoiler Warning to begin as the events we are discussing today are from across the Warhammer 40,000 universe. So you have been warned! As well as specifically from the short story "The Wolves of Raukos" by Guy Hayley. As always I really recommend you read the stories for yourself first. As that's the best way to enjoy the lore for yourself!
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[@AngelWolf12]

Grimnar actually makes it pretty clear in the Wolftime novel what he's doing. He's cultivating loyalty to Russ and himself because in the event the Space Wolves need to kill Guilliman and destroy the Indomitus crusade, he wants a full Legion to be able to act as the Emperor's executioners.

[@kelman727]

Killing a Primarch and the Imperium’s last hope just because. Pretty stupid, really.

[@Darkestdarkify]

@@kelman727 they stated if necessary. Not just because

[@benives254]

Clear? NO! We will never accept this! *not seen* They did.

[@ShadrackMeduson]

because that worked soo damn well the last time which did not backfired at all. wink wink.

[@timothylyons5686]

Could five legions take on over six hundred and fifty.. I guarantee if Grimnar tried it the wolves would be declared excommunicate tratoris, and the Inquisition, the Custodes, the Sisters would use exterminatus on fenris.

[@gravespawn6478]

The idea of Logan sending envoys to audit the new primaris was the entire way I justified my own successor 2 years ago. It's nice to see my bullshit fanfic idea turned out to be right.

[@Subject_Keter]

I think it imperative for the first founding legions to teach their new brothers how they do stuff so they wouldnt be so conflicted and contradicting each other. That the last thing you need while fighting.

[@fireborn]

I would LOVE to see more stories about the Iron Hands. The 10th needs some attention.

[@doomguy9049]

Yes I agree.

[@kelman727]

You might think they’d be all for it given Cawl’s standing in the AM.

[@meeloshm9973]

The only unbreakable legion, the iron X

[@reaver5]

Deffo

[@themachine7534]

I know feel the same as a DA fan , BA and SW get all the love . I really like the iron tenth too but never hear much about them either . Sucks bro i feel you .

[@ossirioth]

Ineffectual leaders are cowed by a challenge to their leadership, strong leaders respond decisively. The Lord of Fenris has accepted the help offered from Guilliman but has also recognized the clear threat from doing so. He understands that his Chapter is a brotherhood with a clear mentality of independance, ferocity and loyalty to the Chapter above all else - the Primaris are a huge benefit, but only if they become aligned to the Chapter's Vision. Grimnar has taken swift action to research the risk, put trusted people in place to advise and guide the new Primaris and is re-enforcing them further with Brothers that have been "untainted" by possible misalignment to further ensure they are reliable. Grimnar has played a blinder quite frankly. He trusts Guilliman is doing the best he can for the Imperium and is supportive of his Lord Commander, despite clear internal pushback from within his own Chapter and a significant potential threat to his own authority. But having accepted those orders, he is quickly ensuring that his new Brothers are brought into the fold as quickly as possibly, never swayed away from their loyalty to the Chapter or their duty to enforce loyalty amongst other Chapters where needed - potentially even censoring Guilliman himself in future if necessary.

[@angrysocialjusticewarrior]

I don't think Grimnar should be creating all that "hoorah" over the "tainted" primaris considering that the chapter is plagued with the wolfen virus and all sorts of other genetic defects while the primaris use some of the pure gene seed used to create the primarchs themselves, which is why the primaris are pure and have no defects. Grimnar is just acting out of fear because his chapter's sickness and afflictions might be exposed by the new pure recruits.

[@rankcolour8780]

@@angrysocialjusticewarrior You do know the Primaris are effected by exactly the same issues 1st born SW have? Turning into giant wolf men, losing their minds and clubbing the enemy with their guns instead of shooting, etc?

[@ossirioth]

@@angrysocialjusticewarrior He's a 9ft killing machine, renowned amongst a galaxy of 9ft killing machines for his ferocity and general lack of tact; and he's dealing with a host of 10ft killing machines being thrust upon him from someone who he has been idoctrinated to not trust. I'd say he's done pretty well!

[@jimmysmith2249]

@@angrysocialjusticewarrior Rank is correct. The Blood Angel primaris also suffer the red thirst AND the Black Rage. Cawl didn't fix shit, as Cawl realized the Big-E put those things in there for a reason.

[@docvaliant721]

Primaris are like the Terran legions of old.

[@Kristian.B.Kristiansen]

It was a very nice touch for Guy Haley to circle back to the new Russ-blood Primaris marine, he created in the Dark Imperium. We get to see him again and how his new chapter is holding up. Good stuff.

[@jakehughes6087]

GAIUUUS

[@PartStupid]

9:20 - Guillimen was asleep for when those indoctrinations were done by Cawl (even if the general order was made initially by him thousands of years ago). So judging him for it makes little sense. Also this fear forgets the fact that there will eventually be more non-Cawl Primaris and chapter members over time (if not already). Also I imagine most founding chapters will do a similar plan as what Grimnar has done and foster kinship with these new chapters and intermingle their chapters to ensure the cult and creed are maintained.

[@macshadow1150]

I was about to say the same. And if not for his sleep I am sure at some point he could tell his brothers about Primaris

[@Ulfbhert9000]

Cawl must've had a copy of the codex astartes lying around and used it as the basis for the VR training as they we're being made before being released

[@hanng1242]

I would like to see how the White Scars deal with this. In the story Blood Oath (or maybe Hunter's Snare - I can't remember which) as part of the Anthology "Damocles" in the Space Marine Battles series, we see the a Dark Hunter champion hanging out with Kor'sarro Khan and being a bit surprised at how they fight. Likewise, the White Scars see the Dark Hunter as having forgotten how to be a son of the Khagan, which is why the White Scars do this externship thing in the first place. The idea is to make sure that White Scars successors know the ways of Chagoris and adopt its spirit, if not necessarily the battle doctrine. In any evet, I would like to see this explored a bit more. Even though Primaris are still heresy.

[@doomguy9049]

Yeah I agree, I want to see more of how each first founding chapter addresses this situation and I want to see more new chapters.

[@waterfossett4751]

It was in Hunter’s Snare!

[@hanng1242]

@@waterfossett4751 Thank you. That was also the story where Kor'sarro was trying to get Shadowun to embrace the fun of battle, right?

[@marn06]

One thing that has to be on the wolves collective mind is 'could this primaris lot fail like the wolf brothers chapter', I'd imagine Logan would want to keep a close eye...

[@AnimeRonin]

The Salamanders are who I want to see, to see how the bro-est of Space Marines handle this revelation.

[@benives254]

Bigger arms, bigger hugs.

[@____________838]

Strange brothers give strange hugs…

[@carlstanford7607]

The salamanders are the closet to actual heroes the imperium has

[@PartStupid]

@@benives254 - I can see it now. "Come here my new very big brother! I must hug you twice as hard as the others!".

[@benives254]

@@PartStupid hugs are nice! *squeezes*

[@ArchAngelWC]

I think the Salamanders would be interesting as they are the only space marines who keep the connection to their humanity through family....so having all these new sons of Vulkan arrive would be great for them except.....that the Primaris probably wont understand as they wont have the same connection to their past and humanity

[@doomguy9049]

They might be surprised at how everyone looks too, because Salamander geneseed flaws don't change blacken their skin or turn their eyes red unless they're exposed to the unique radiation of Nocturne for awhile.

[@MandoSki464]

I was happy to see Bjarni return I loved the guy in dark imperium

[@wyoguy9720]

Just because of this I’m gonna read it. Thanks

[@keingdougie24]

I like that they made it very clear of exactly how many space wolves were left before being reinforced. It they didn’t give us a solid amount after the Primaris were introduced

[@lobogonzalo4745]

I think this new chapters have to swim into a good greenskin battle alongside first founding ones so they can feel their blood burning the fenrika way

[@anthonyducote5784]

I love the experience you provide! I do t have any friends to kind of chill and just talk and share 40k lore with and the way you do your videos it kind of feels like just that hanging out with a friend talking 40k nerding out making quotes and stuff! Thank you!

[@eviljagtech]

Don't see any chapter having issues with what G man did as far as training goes, I was a secret plan to reinforce the Space Marines at the tail end of the scouring. It make little tactical sense to go around and ask people how they want their new space marine when many were missing or dead. G man did what he normally does and found the most efficient way to get a job done. As far as I know he hasn't had issues with Chapters changing or retraining them so they fit in better.

[@dalaminaubis7822]

Iron Hands: "Hey boys, glad you could make it. Nice armour, love the boots. Okay, so we're gonna be chopping off your hands today."

[@kingerc1]

I really want a novel and the lions successors coming into the fold of the unforgiven

[@BandOfHarjaps]

especially The Consecrators.

[@worldeater2414]

White Scars: "Wanna see who can run faster?"

[@Ulfbhert9000]

Primaris White Scar: Last one Quan Zhou goes to Krieg to learn entrenched warfare.

[@johnpyrett4017]

Space wolves have such a good teaching environment because it's fight first and go for drinks after and remind the pups about both sides sagas!

[@alexhaney5641]

Fabricator General: call call, phone: calling call

[@bahadrsarcicek7110]

Great vid thanks 🙏🏻

[@wyoguy9720]

Love your content Rho. I look forward to your content all week. Keep it up. Hydra Dominatus

[@kingbaldwiniv5409]

This short was a really good one by Guy Haley! Some of the shorts in this book are really weak, but this one was well worth it.

[@Anthyrion]

I really wonder, WHY the Wolves accepted their new brothers so fast. None of them was born on Fenris. None of them had ever sat at the fire with their families and listend to the storys of the Tribeskalds. None of them had ever tasted the Mead of their ancestors or had a brawl with other children in their tribes. And none of them ever hunted one of the great Beasts roaming on Fenris. I thought, it would be like the introduction the Primaris had with the Flesh Tearers.

[@Spacefrisian]

Cause Ulric wanted to see if these new Primaris would be the cure to the curse of the WUlfen.

[@unbreakablelag]

Probably because it spits in the face of Magnus, since he went out of his way to make it impossible for Space Wolves successors. But Cawls work undoes this.

[@madminute8249]

It’s been pretty well explained in the Wolftime novel and the codexes. They weren’t in much of a position to refuse and the Space Wolves being about merit, once their new Primaris brothers started proving themselves through battle, taking the Trials of Morkai themselves, and just scraps with the Firstborn it didn’t take that long to accept the Primaris. The Space Wolves current campaigns against the Orks might as well be the Circle of Fire 2.0.

[@Anthyrion]

@@unbreakablelag Ok, i see that i'm not really in the actual lore. I read some novels (especially the Horus Hersey) but i can't read every book that is currently out

[@unbreakablelag]

@@Anthyrion That’s fair. There is like 40 years worth of lore. Including retcons and contradictions. I fear the man that knows every piece of warhammer lore.

[@GenghisTron]

You’re a staple in this community brother. Don’t stop doing this.

[@johnquach8821]

Very nice! Really like the new Space Wolves successors.

[@blackrose_221]

So then girmnar is the dante of the wolves. Cool. Awesome

[@michaeldaly6134]

I would like to propose something my son and I discussed this morning as we walked to his school... Is the WH40K universe so dark because they no longer have dogs for companionship? Sure there are Fenrisian Wolves, but can you imagine sanctioned psykers with support dogs, or Angron or Conrad Curze with emotional support puppies? What about Perturabo with his own horde of dogs following him about? Could the Emperor have created pups the size of the wolves for his sons, and what about doggos making life easier for even the lowliest of the empire's citizens?

[@dalaminaubis7822]

Raven Guard: "Now if you would please turn your schedules to page one of Wednesday, you'll see we have hide and seek from 6am to 7, 7:30 we'll be having our two hour brooding beneath a stained glass window session. Side note, anyone who wasn't found by 7:15 can brood in their hiding spot if they so choose, aaand at 9:45 it's snacks."

[@ChaoticHeretic]

You know I was pretty heated about all of this because I thought Guilliman was basically holding the Imperium together so I initially took this as an insult. I really do hate Space Wolves, but people have to consider what Leman Russ was. He was the Executioner of the Emperor. You can't fulfil that role if your loyalty isn't absolute to that cause.

[@JD-td6oh]

Nice info

[@manjugangwar7245]

I thought it was B'jorn doing the Wolf priest thing it just made sense to me

[@andresperedo1275]

I just hope that Gav Thorpe will never again write anything about the SW. He butchered all that is good in them. I will for sure read this story, as there are several things I been wondering about since the primaris appeared.

[@DarkApostleNoek]

I think that you had talked about making your own Successors Chapter before, an am really interested what you would do with that. I also don;t see any Successor Chapter of the Space Wolves using Great Wolf title like Dak Angels their SC and the Grand Master title. Great Wolf is meant to be basically a regent for the Wolf King right? As for this, not 100% sure maybe the Salamanders as the only ones with any Skepticism are the Dark Angels and we know they have passed in. The Salamanders also sent Chaplains and we be cool to see how that went. "The Wolves of Raukos" can it be read on its own somewhere or only in the collection? Considering the Codex is "more like guide lines" except for "there is only one rule of" no permanent legion numbers except Cusades I can see the talk going like this: SW SC: Lord Commander Roboute Guilliman, Logan Grimnar is trying to command us. RG: WHAT?! How so? SW SC: He's changing our rank names, telling us to use these words, teaching us Fenris traditions... RG: Is he saying you are a Legion and must do what he says? SW SC: No. RG: Then I really don't care, do what you like just keep it in between 1000 to 2000 Space Marines.

[@kelman727]

The SW had one known successor chapter. It was the Salamanders who had no known successors. Cawl was in charge of the Primaris marine’s indoctrination, since Guilliman spent much of the time they were being gathered and trained in stasis.

[@clementbianchini8651]

There is a subject I believe is worth a video, the influence of primarchs adoptive families on the primarchs like Luther, Konnor, Kor Phaeron, Nekker and the other we know of

[@pentacosttb2565]

Talking about the creation of Chapters and adoption of the Codrx at the begining, with the Primarchs being split, does make me wonder what would have happened if 1 or more of the other loyalists were still around, because I cannot imagine Ferrus, Sanguinius or the Lion not telling Guilliman to jog on. Infact it could be argued he took advantage of 3 of his brothers Legions being orphaned to force his view of what was the 'right' and 'lohical' thing to do to bolster his side and pressure his dissenting brothers to comply.

[@doomguy9049]

It seemed to have worked out well though, and without primarchs or the emperor to command them the legions really would have been too big a threat if one fell to chaos. Considering it wouldn't be long after Guilliman forced the codex onto the legions that all the remaining loyal primarchs(including himself) would go missing or dead for the next 10k years that was some guess, or great foresight on his part.

[@armholeeio]

Hey Ro I think I have a idea on a short story for Wolf Lord Ro becoming a chapter master on a new founding

[@loken_4392]

Obviously since this is Warhammer 40,000 people will assume the worst, but I don't really see the issue with Cawl using the same indoctrination techniques for all of the Primaris Marines. They are a first batch of reinforcements and he needed to make sure they weren't all screwed up in the head. Arguably the ultramarines are the most stable of them all. That's also why gilliman gave the successor chapters the ability to create their own

[@Subodenkhan]

I would love a whitescars book on the modern scars from Chris Wraight

[@jimminey-fooking-cricket4903]

Dark Angels and Iron hands for sure what I really want to see is Corax reaction considering what happened with his Legion.

[@paulbrocklehurst5993]

It would be great to see what the Dark Angles did.

[@47thSteelLegion]

Can we get a What if Jaghatai Khan returned please. I think he’d be much more of an asset than you seem to make him out to be in your other returning primarchs videos.

[@matthewharr6881]

The Dark Angeles would be interesting but from bits and pieces I got it seem to have went mostly smooth relativity speaking. Minus that one or more of their successors said they to treat the fallen as any other traitor.

[@kphan4643]

another great vid! i cant wait to see you do one about what the custodes will do with them loser black templars who attacked on of their own while delivery primaris to them.

[@joe.the.sentinel]

Because Guillman is actually alpharius building a perfect copy marines. Just waiting for the "execute order 66" to take absolute control of the known galaxy

[@aitruscolso]

So he came to the successors with a large number of Fenrisian reinforcements. If the successor proved to be more Guilliman than Russ, would those reinforcements have instead been *replacements*?

[@____________838]

That’s the way Gabriel Seth saw it for his Angels.

[@shotou]

I think it was on Vigilus, and the Dark Angel Primaris Captian admitted the only reason he was there was because he didn't know anything. I love that the Legion is still lead by first born marines like Azrael.

[@Discotekh_Dynasty]

I’d like to see the Emperors children fight the Sons of the Pheonix

[@darklordjsmith]

I think you are wrong to think that. Primaris Space Marines were like the Space Marines Legion at the start of the Great Crusader, all taken from a single source and trained the same why. So in essence, Roboute was founding his Father footsteps. In all the books I so far, he is not tried to force the Codex on any Chapters ( i.e. when he meet the black Templars High Marshal Helbrecht, all he did was to remind him of his oaths to the Emporer ) I think fans need to take a step back and look at the whole picture of the status of the Imperium. Roboute is a Firefighter at the moment and trying to put out fires all over the place, but the people he is trying to help keep throwing gas onto the fire and not helping.

[@mduckernz]

Re: unified indoctrination process, I don't actually see anything sly or malicious in this. I highly doubt that Guilliman mandated it, for example. Cawl likely simply didn't think it all that important, that their integration with their respective brothers would serve for cultural acclimatisation. This is very much a case of Mechanicum blindness IMO (yes, I'm very aware that Cawl is extremely radical for the Mechanicum, but I think such assumptions around culture and emotions will have persisted with him, ironically it's own form of culture)

[@mduckernz]

Also, Cawl may not have even had the necessary data to make tailored indoctrination processes even if he'd wanted to do it. Remember that a lot of this kind of thing is kept secret within the legions/chapters, or at least isn't widely available. It would have taken a lot of effort to get the data necessary, if it were even possible.

[@MartinMess]

I for my part would like some space vikings with a lil bit of common sense. Instead of teaching their successors they should get their paper and pen out and take some notes.

[@iansholylordinquisitor4271]

Question- who has more troops than the codex allows, Black Templars or Space Wolves?

[@Headhunter1234256]

Space wolves. they just dont care, black templar pretend to care and you will never see more then 1000 at once...

[@Dom-ei8uf]

Wolf Lord Rho, can you show the quote saying the space wolves have hella dudes? Even posibly the strength of their former legion?

[@davisgarcia66]

Fact of the matter is if the leaders of the original first born chapters have something planned or are just trying to include the successors then by all means it should happen.

[@Billio68]

Need links to books references

[@arthuriscariot3463]

I think the main reason is not because of Guilliman, I think the main reason lies within the aftermath of the first war for Armageddon and the Inquisitions betrayal and subsequent attack on Fenris itself. Grimnar is no fool, he knows very well that Guilliman -as much as he hates it - is the Impiriums best hope so i doubt he will utilize his new alliances and loyalties against him. I think he bolsters his Chapter and Fenris against the inquisition, after all we all know how pety they are and to them it does not matter if you are a first founding chapter or one of the newer ones. Heck we even have seen The former highlords attack guilliman, so who is to say that the inquisition wouldn't either themselves attack the space wolves or - what would be more their style - try and create a situationt hat would force guilliman to deal with the space wolves. While i highly doubt they would succeed in pulling the wool over his eyes and make him do their dirty work...Guilliman has made poor descisions before. Long story short, my theory is Grimmnar aims to bolster his chapters and Homeworlds as well as Russ' legacie's defences by doing this in order to prepare for the inquisitions backstabbing and attemps to bringt hem to heel / wipe them out.

[@o.w.n.1327]

I'll say even tho I don't enjoy space wolves I genuenly whole heartedly enjoyed wolves of raukos it was a fun and exciting novel Especially the dining table scene

[@jeffersonhenrichs3362]

Gulliman, Cawl, and plenty of others are in league with eldar witches, zeno tech, and all other kinds of heresy. Grimnar needs to have full strength when the urge to purge gets too strong.

[@bmorebread8993]

I thought all the primaris chapters didn't work out, like because they weren't from fenris and couldn't get passed the canis helix

[@RobouteGuilliman-M41]

ZOMFG, another piece criticizing Guilliman.

[@GreatChickenGod]

i woulf've figured that Grimnar would accept the primaris as another Great Company and absorb them into the Space Wolves

[@thomasschmidt1836]

I have continually mentioned my distrust of Guilliman and I continue to stand by my criticisms and misgivings. The Primaris may indeed have the blood of Russ but their indoctrination is that of the UltraSmurfs. I still believe there is the seed of nefarious intent that needs to be assuaged in totality before I would consider any of these new Chapters to ever be true Sons of Fenris. They need to be judged by their actions and not accepted simply because we've been told to. There has to be a way to deeply imbed the culture of Fenris. Perhaps sending out his Wolf Priests as emissaries and infusing them with actual Fenrisians is only a first step. I believe Grimnar would need to get the Chapter Masters and their Priests to Fenris for a time of cultural indoctrination and find a way to ensure their connection to their heritage is authentic and erasing their pre-programming by Cawl (under the direction of Guilliman). They can then go back and train and pass this down to their troops with the Fenrisian Wolves assisting and reinforcing it. If it can be done, then (as I believe and hope it doesn't come to it) any future "hidden directive" implanted is activated, the connection to their blood heritage and legacy would force their thoughts and actions to be that of a true Son of Russ, as a Space Wolf rather than an indoctrinated test tube baby. For those that have crossed the rubicon, they were of Fenris before the procedure and have remained so after. I have no concerns save anything coded into the new additional organs that may affect decisions made once "triggered" via subterfuge.

[@Kurogane335]

I'd rather the successors forge their characters instead of being Sons of Fenris all apiece. They are not, they are Sons of Russ and they should make it clear to the fenrisians that while they deserve respect, they won't be indoctrinating their own successor chapters. Otherwise, having new chapters instead of just folding all the Sons of Russ among the Primaris wouldn"t make sense and wouldn't be interesting. What's the point of having let's say twenty chapters of Space Wolves ?

[@thomasschmidt1836]

because then all the Astartes would end up being UltraSmurfs. I'm not saying they cannot draw upon their new homeworlds, but I feel they need to know from where their culture stems. Without deep roots a tree lacks a strong foundation. Why would Grimnar send Fenrisians to the new Primaris chapters? To absorb Guilliman's codex indoctrination? I think not

[@Kurogane335]

@@thomasschmidt1836 That's the thing I don't like, Grimnar sending Fenrisians to other sons of Russ chapters. It's already what I found distatesful in Wolftime, that idea the Wolves are that only Fenrisians and their culture are worthy of Russ, when we know Russ remained steeped into this culture only because the Emepror asked him to. Sending advisors would be fine, to foster good relations and all. Sending whole companies, it's basically overtaking the new chapters and prevent them from becoming whoever they want or need to become by imposing traditions which doesn' tmake sense to the members.

[@oliverfredrich9734]

I thougt the wolfspear ist a fleet based chapter at least thats wat i read in the White Dwarf

[@inquisitormalleus6435]

The Wolfspear are in a bit of a weird spot where the White Dwarf lore contradicts certain pre-existing details such as ranks and having a homeworld. I'm not sure if this story was from before the White Dwarf or just didn't use it's lore.

[@onisinn1]

🔥🖤🔥

[@SuperOAFMAN]

We need a book were the heretical Black Templar join forces with the Fallen and Alpha Legion to make a non chaos, heretical faction.

[@robertflynn4215]

It's sad that the same couldn't be said about the black templars primaris 😔.

[@kainmathews5489]

Well with the Grey Knight destroying the newbies you can most definiately figure they would most likely help my beloved Wolves if they are to bring down this heresy!

[@docvaliant721]

I would like to see some like the vipers who tell the furries to get bent.

[@beardfistthegoldenone7273]

I see this as a win for Guilliman and the Imperium. Why would Gman not want his brothers sons to be their spiritual successors as well as genetic?

[@kayvaanmcsharrowkyn6901]

All the wolf priest had to say after "YOU RE sons of RUSS, you're not sons of Guilliman ,and there's a BIG DIFFERENCE between the two! You see, Guilliman and his sons sons DON'T turn into space werewolves during the heat of battle! LOL! But... you bastards certainly WILL, and you might want to talk to somebody about that who's in the know...get what I'm saying?" LOL these dudes have no idea what the Canis Helix can do to them once they're in BERSERKER MODE, and when they start going freaking full lycanthrope beast mode, they're definitely going to want to talk to somebody who knows a little bit on the subject! LOL!!

[@iagree6677]

Heritage absolutely matters and the wolves know this.

[@bryanbrown5886]

Yes, Let's also not TalK about the fact that the Primaris are sons of Russ which means WulFen at least eventually... Same issue the blood angels had with the rage... Or that dark angels Primaris chapters are never told full truth of their heritage

[@brotherhoodz97]

Recruiting the new executioners, to kill guillicringe if necessary.

[@johnnieschatz693]

Imperial fist

[@vonkug]

Iron Hands. "Hands" down. Just like Guilliman can't grok the Space Wolves, or the White Scars, how the hell do you teach someone to think like the Gorgon?

[@robinderoos1166]

Generally if your bitch has gotten to many puppies, you give them away to friends and family

[@timothylyons5686]

The original wolves were from other planets.

[@DarkApostleNoek]

Leman was from another planet.

[@____________838]

Well… If you mean the Astartes that the Emperor gave to Leman Russ when He found him… “Before the coming of their Primarch Leman Russ, the Space Wolves were known as the VI Legion and was made up of a diverse range of savage and hyper-violent tribesmen from Terra.” “Over time the Legion developed particular expertise also in·conducting rapidly moving hunter-killer operations, particularly in city-fighting conditions, or in undertaking more generally punitive actions, such as suppressing rebellions by inflicting short, brutal reprisal actions. By the second decade of the Great Crusade, the VIth Legion had already earned its reputation as the Emperor's agents of fear and retribution, becoming known as ‘The Rout’.”

[@HorusHeresy1982]

If the Inquisition finds out they're going to accuse Grimnar of trying to build his own Legion.

[@FoxHound-ut1hu]

What are they going to do about it 🤣

[@SamueL-td7fb]

​@@FoxHound-ut1hu send the Grey Knights to die again perhaps?

[@licensed_beheader]

They have bigger concerns with chaos and heretics running rampant after the fall of Cadia. Plus with Guilliman around, the inquisition will not pull a celestial lions move again or they risk a "head pat" from Guilliman's hand of dominion.

[@wilkor7643]

Last time Inqusition tried to tell the Rout what to do it didn't ended well

[@SamueL-td7fb]

@@wilkor7643 and with the Big G around, it's not gonna go so well for the Inquisition this time...

[@MrBlandUsername]

Well, I mean, the Salamanders weren't broken up, and didn't have any successors, at least not officially.

[@RoastPartyTime]

Isn't it because they are constantly loosing like half their legion? I read that somewhere :o

[@MrBlandUsername]

@@RoastPartyTime Well, yeah. Being betrayed will do that to you.

[@RoastPartyTime]

@@MrBlandUsername but I mean even before Istvan. As my memory serves me, they were always at a point of being wiped out, constantly on high casualty missions :o

[@waynegoddard4065]

I think when Russ is referred to as The Lord of Winter and War is pure cringe.

[@FoxHound-ut1hu]

Why the names metal as fuck

[@waynegoddard4065]

@@FoxHound-ut1hu it's cheesy as fuck more like.

[@FoxHound-ut1hu]

@@waynegoddard4065 Nah it's something straight out of the Norse Sagas!

[@JL-rt7qv]

Soooo many ads in these videos now.

[@comradeweismann6947]

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