What do we think of the NEW LAND ROVER DEFENDER??? (Ep146)

A sunrise Land Rover convoy followed by an off-road event with the amazing Land Rover community of Japan.
We were surprised by Land Rover Japan with the presence of the 2020 model Land Rover Defender 110.
It was the fist time we had seen it for real and we were even taken for a ride on the off-road course.
We have been asked many times what the think of the new Defender, in this video we tell all.
Join us as we travel the world overland, exploring the cultures and traditions of all the countries we visit.
In our Land Rover Defender camper which is our full time home we will take you rock climbing, hiking and exploring across all the continents on this planet.

[@q8overland]

new defender looks nice for the city but for a full time overland i dont think Nicolay can fix air suspension :))

[@leighdearle5965]

Wise words my friend 😉

[@lukem9707]

or the electronics... from TFL guys, even dealers have a hard time repairing the new model

[@willcowell8197]

The new defender is a big disappointment, that doesn't mean I'm against modernising vehicles but they've got the new defender completely wrong. It's just a posh suv that must be a nightmare to work on without taking it to a dealership every other day. It's for a new generation I suppose, but i certainty don't like it. Having said that what a great crowd to spend the day with, looks like a lot of fun👍🏼

[@Archiepopop]

The new Defender is brilliant and I would have one over the old relic that was hopelessly disappointing to drive

[@willcowell8197]

@@Archiepopop I would get a 79 series land cruiser personally, but regarding this new defender 18-20 inch rims,air suspension here in Africa forget it, people who don't live in remote places or under developed countries with very rough terrain and very bad roads don't understand that air suspension, large rims designed for tarmac driving with very low profile tyres and total dependence on electronics does not work and if it has any kind of issue which I'm sure it will have many more than the original, to have to be taken to a dealership to be fixed is ridiculous. There is an average of about 1 land rover dealership every 1000km out here, how is this new vehicle practical for this part of the world? At least with simpler 4x4s not just classic defenders most issues are fixable in remote parts of Africa. The average good mechanic in small African towns or villages will not be able to fix one of these new ones without expensive high tech tools and equipment with proper training, whereas an old land cruiser or old defender or suzuki or hilux etc no worries. I'm not saying that the original is perfect and that it shouldn't have ever been changed. It definitely needed modernising especially with regards to safety. The original has countless flaws and issues as we know but one thing on it's side is simplicity and that it's quite easy to fix. This new defender is way too complicated for this part of the world, refer to kiss..I'm not picking a fight, just giving you a different perspective that's all. Thanks

[@ogribiker8535]

@@Archiepopop Until all the ecu's stop working, any Land Rover with more than 1 is asking for trouble this things has loads and loads. Look at some of the owners vlogs. Sad but true, would never touch one.

[@ogribiker8535]

@@willcowell8197 Your point and experience has been totally ignored by the new Land Rover team, which considering where there from I really don't get. They have gone all in on the suv market ignoring LR's core markets - military and NGO's. We will see if they stick with the new one or ditch it for a cheaper, simpler more rugged alternative. Sadly I think the Defender has run its coarse and will be dropped soon.

[@willcowell8197]

@@ogribiker8535 well said and a good point regarding their former customers. Here in Kenya from the military, ngo's, safari tour operators, parastatal, farmers, police you name it a good majority of vehicles they used were land rover defenders, but nowadays that market has been handed over to the mighty 70 series Toyota land cruiser range which are fantastic vehicles for this part of the world in fact the best I would say..easy to modify and work on like the original defender is. Sad that land rover have completely crushed that heritage and given away a huge market. Again the original did need modernising but what they've created is just another luxury suv designed by clueless accountants in fancy glass tower office blocks. The grenadier will be interesting, I'm sure it will have flaws but will possibly be a more worthy successor of the original defender but we will see.

[@hugosstudiosdenver]

Amazing Land Rover family !!! Thanks for sharing !!

[@theKhumbaguy]

"Would you drive it around the world, obviously not" that was a very honest answer. Because we all know it wouldn't make it out of Australia.

[@DaciaProject]

:))))))))))))))

[@TWX1138]

Based on some of the other documented experiences, I would not take a new Defender the same places you've taken yours. You've managed to acquire parts and had service performed by people that might not necessarily have a lot of experience or technical documentation specific to your truck, and they've been successful even to the point of rebuilding axle components. A new Defender is a modern electronics-heavy car that's loosely Defender-shaped. It requires factory support and if the experiences the TFL people have had are any indication, even factory support is not adequate at times. Your truck is the culmination of a legacy of decades of building for durability, simplicity, and to an extent serviceability. The new vehicle bears the name but has none of that pedigree and is unsuited to leaving regions beyond a single fuel tank's range from an official Land Rover service center.

[@MuTheGuardian]

PERFECT 👌

[@Archiepopop]

Bored with these pathetic whinges. The old one was an outdated relic this is the modern equivalent. Move on..

[@marcosavio1749]

Spot on opinion!

[@marcosavio1749]

@@Archiepopop challenging experiences in remote places would likely change your mindset on modern vehicles when a simple sensor issue deactivates your vehicle 😁.

[@clooperman3745]

@@Archiepopop Dealers advice to me when l mentioned an extended overland trip, "don't stray too far from the blacktop"!!!!!!!!

[@stevestott3652]

Japan sure has been a lot more enjoyable than I thought it would be . Awesome people , and great countryside driving . and spectacular scenery .and the food was looking so good . Then add a Land Rover event also so spectacular . Cheers to all the people we have got to meet threw your videos . Thanks for sharing this beautiful video with us your over landing friends . Cheers from Steve Stott in Sutherlin Oregon U.S.A.

[@seanslattery2535]

All the drivers are smiling so big....must be a Defender...a Land Rover thing...Just love to see all the Land Rovers, That Icarus Conversion is super.

[@leighdearle5965]

You know it my friend 😁

[@erichkniffel2337]

The comparison between the old Defender and the new one is like comparing an old typewriter to a MacBook 🤔😂🍷

[@naserrad9386]

It’s nice but I like the old version. Old is gold

[@synchglee500]

Agree

[@motot3adventure]

Fantastic job filming and sharing. Thanks

[@victorbart]

The biggest issue is that you cannot modify it. Even installing a winch is problematic. The standard 20inch rims are also not great. It is a nice car but not as a replacement 😊

[@DaciaProject]

The TFL guys destroyed their second one when they tried to install a winch :)))))

[@AntonKramer]

I agree. I see the new Defender more as a replacement for the Old Discovery than the old Defender. (the new Discovery has become more of a soft-roader ) I hope someday they will make also a Pickup and more commercial version of the new Defender that makes more sense to the Old Defender heritage.

[@michaeljoseph741]

@@DaciaProject They apparently could not follow instructions, other people have done it successfully.

[@Archiepopop]

@@DaciaProject I’m bored with the pathetic whingeing about that KZbin channel that they do this for ratings and that you have to mention it. like no cars ever get problems? Grow up

[@gilliandearle9771]

That was brilliant, everyone is so happy in the Defender Family😀 Mum❤️🥰

[@RoverLanding-Adventures]

We love the new Defender! Take a look at the Hardtop commercial variant. Lots of possibilities with that one. Another fantastic video. We enjoy following along with your journey so much. The Land Rover meet was great to see as quite a few large LR meets were canceled this year in the US.

[@clooperman3745]

Got my eye on the 90" Commercial providing long term reliability isn't an issue, will give it a year to see how things work out, no air suspension to worry about but l think it will still have an auto transmission, would prefer stickshift!

[@BGreat2]

What a dream to be with your tribe! Vehicle clubs are great families! Thanks for taking us along.

[@Joricano]

Land Rover Japan seems to be a tight group..love it

[@DH-sm7sw]

Yup - had one when I lived there. Great people, great country.

[@marcosavio1749]

What a stunning surprise video. Loved the RC car!!! Well done 👍

[@heidelbergaren5054]

“Obviously not” Everyone who has owned a Land Rover is smiling

[@TheDudeGonzalez]

Hehehe

[@tonylandau1978]

You should take a good look at your shock mount as soon as you can. In the close-up shots at 8:40 and 8:54 you can see the whole bolt moving about so something's gotta be loose or damaged. Don't want to get your chassis damaged, let alone have something worse happen. Stay safe out there!

[@leighdearle5965]

Thank you very much we did notice and we have checked it out on an inspection. Appreciate the comment 🙏🙏🙏

[@whiteeulogianraven7995]

Besides of efficiency and quality, you know when a Rover is coming, once you look at it, YOU KNOW is a Rover, square and ugly, that is exactly what makes it beautiful. "Don't try to fix me I am not broken" it is like music man, some people prefer it simple but talented, complex as Dream Theater and straight to the heart like Mötorhead. Greetings from the other side of the world. ¡PURA VIDA!

[@cknacci]

good to hear u like it, those who hates it that say freelander, pretender.., there are those who stuck to their old series, or probably haven't seen the real thing in front of their eyes. Times has change, design needs to change for improvement.

[@leighdearle5965]

Great comment 😉 Like I said in the video, I liked the car but wouldn't drive it around the world. All vehicles and equipment evolves and changes over time.

[@cknacci]

Yeap I agree on that

[@Archiepopop]

In the real world we don’t drive that far

[@luaesemog]

very nice video. hei, check rear braket of suspenstion: on video minute 8:40 , seems bracket of second shok moves alot.

[@leighdearle5965]

Yes you're right 😉 We already replaced the worn bushing 👍 Thank you for the comment 🙏

[@Simonandisla]

What a fab hang out with the local landy gang 👍👍

[@bobjoncas2814]

...nice one, stay safe..

[@robinwelch1000]

Excellent Guys, well done and great video Steph. at 8.53, checkout the rear damper bushes, you're getting some play between the bush and housing

[@leighdearle5965]

Great pick up Robin 😉 I'd already noticed the play on an inspection prior to this day. The video footage confirmed. We've since replaced the bushing 😊

[@andrewdavies2975]

Awsom guys,great to see a wide range of Landrovers for the event along with the new Defender.

[@conoracutt]

That guy who kept going for it was classic! hahah

[@themechanicslab]

Hey Leigh and Steph, I noticed in your video at 8:41 it seems like your primary shock mounting bolt (the forward shock) appears to have movement in it rather then the dampening cusion. Might pay to have a look at the attachement point on the chassis to ensure there isn't a minor fracture or crack in the mounting point because the bolt shouldn't be moving.

[@leighdearle5965]

Good spot 😉 You're the second now thank you. The bushing was worn and cracked. It's been replaced a few weeks ago. I had noticed movement during an inspection a while ago. The Gopro footage confirmed 😉

[@patricebarrois6797]

Très belle communauté très sympathique et solidaire 😊

[@johndiaz7240]

You two always meet the best people where ever you travel. Here in the States a channel called TFL has a update on the new Defender where a motor needs replacement at 135 miles (petrol ) and the dealer was installing a wench on another new Defender and nicked the wiring loom , the truck is not repairable. I do like the looks of them , take care be safe.

[@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080]

You two are so polite! lol 🚙

[@darkhorsetoolworks920]

Great video you guys!!! Looked like a fantastic time!!

[@leighdearle5965]

Thanks brother 😉 Hope you're well my friend.

[@joelletendre1011]

Leigh, is that shock mount flexing at 8:40? The rear one looks ok, but it does appear that the stud is moving more than I think it should be.

[@hossp2365]

Yep it sure is. And the front damper’s bush is worn and starting to go.

[@leighdearle5965]

Great pick up. I was wondering who would be the first to notice 😊 The bushing was damaged and has since been replaced 😉 I had already found this during an inspection I did a few weeks before that. The Gopro footage confirmed.

[@joelletendre1011]

@@leighdearle5965 30 years as a vehicle tech, and you start to notice things. Is the mount cracked? Are those the same mounts you had welded in Georgia?

[@leighdearle5965]

@@joelletendre1011 wow you do pay attention 😊 Yes mate the same ones. The bloke that welded those back together with the reinforced section knew what he was doing. No cracks in those things it was only the bushing worn and cracked. We replaced upper and lower on both shocks whilst we had them out.

[@petersparkie]

I’m impressed with how immaculately all vehicles are presented

[@roznersimon]

🤣 Leight: I got at CB radio: Other guy: 🤯😱

[@richardscheen4644]

..can t wait your opinion of the upcoming Ineos Grenadier..

[@westaussie9497]

I like the drone views. It looked like a well organised weekend.

[@donaldridley7826]

What a great group of Land Rover people. You have been spoilt in Japan.

[@hakubaholiday9006]

Absolutely excellent content and production quality! Looks like it was a great weekend. A true LandRover-gasm!!

[@leighdearle5965]

Land Rovergasm, love it 😂

[@bennytdi]

I saw 2 110s while in Tokyo. Had no idea how rare they were over there

[@tonybrider]

Awesome video. I m not an offroad person but had the new defender for 3 hours the p300 first edition and its now my favorite car.

[@angchaha246]

one of my favorite episodes!

[@rjl110919581]

thank you for detail beauty video as look great over there still love Isuzu 300 NPS 75 crew cab 4.5 ton

[@francoisehollender_franeuro]

Immaculate Land Rovers in a meeting in Japan near Nagano, thanks for sharing Stephanie​ and Leigh​!

[@GrizzlyNbearOverland]

Immaculate that's for sure ! Off-road is very rare in Japan. 😉

[@davespanksalot8413]

Seeing that awesome Defender crowd over there makes me wish I had the dosh to take my Perentie to Japan! I think the new Heavy Duty Discovery 5 is a great vehicle for what it is. A plastic label on the bonnet a Defender/110/Series does not make. I vote they call it a 110-D5 and market it as a tribute, not a replacement. But I don't think Tata are that interested in anything but the rupees. It's a shame Toyota didn't buy JLR, I suspect they would have honoured the history more.

[@haditorkmani2600]

C'EST vraiment super experience .je vais essayer d'avoir la mine a london . Soyez heureuse

[@nigeljoshua394]

Great video, and love that 2CV - a true Frenchie!

[@GrizzlyNbearOverland]

The owner has a 130 too. But it was out of action.b

[@nigeljoshua394]

@@GrizzlyNbearOverland always loved the 2CV, and one would almost fit in a 130 Tray! Lots in the UK when I was a youngster, built under licence in Slough! Popular in WA and go almost anywhere a Land Rover will - they have 2CV “raids”!

[@JeffC1]

What a fun event.

[@leighdearle5965]

It really was mate 😉

[@defendermodsandtravels]

This video encapsulates everything about Land Rover ownership, especially the camaraderie. Owners of other marques tend to look down on LR owners because they feel they own superior vehicles (no comment) but they also know that LRs have something their vehicle will never have. One life, live it :-)

[@Simon-tg7jg]

Party at the back is coming along nicely Leigh 😃

[@rcsuch4607]

Ahoj, comment trouvez vous le nouveau DEF? franchement............. j'ai un peu de mal à m'imaginer à son volant au millieu des branches et des rochers .................. un joli véhicule , mais trop luxe pour lui faire subir les pires traitements.

[@PhilTaylorPhotog]

Looks nice enough, but for the price point, I'd prefer my LC200 any day. The Grenadier though...that interests me. When you get to Aus, please don't limit yourself to Landrover meetups. There's some other ones you should do - Zooks, FJ Cruisers etc etc.

[@linartx]

Fantastic autumn colours!

[@Gnarloo]

2:23 This pale sage defender is just wow

[@36659836]

Again nice video brother, a small video on Monday or next day by Leigh .new defender is good but like old defender (pickup) as yours,,,(I am Farmer) take care.. waitng for next video ,,,

[@grahameroberts8109]

Thanks for the vid. Every single vehicle in the convoy was spick and span and kept in top condition. It’s great to see club outings like that. As for your comment about the new Defender, I agree. Purist Land Rover owners should be ashamed to denounce and promote hate and negativity about a new Land Rover in the 21st century. We are all in the one Land Rover family and should embrace and support one another as shown in this vid.

[@willcowell8197]

But does every modern land rover have to be another luxury suv with air suspension and 20 inch rims designed by clueless accountants? Simplicity and practicality with some modern touches is still needed from 4x4s in many parts of the world but the new one is ridiculous.

[@grahameroberts8109]

@@willcowell8197 You are entitled to your opinion. Cheers 🦘

[@joeychaseable]

Land Rover/Jaguar/British vehicles are not known for dependable electronics. Having a new one with DEF and having electronic lockers and all the other fancy electronics would scare the hell out of me as an overland platfom. As nice and comfy as they appear, being broke down because of an electronic glitch in the middle of nowhere in Afghanistan would not be fun, warranty or no warranty! Sometimes, older is just better... Best of luck!

[@puya115]

Very nice, this is a dream to drive around the world.

[@fred2495]

salut les tourtereaux je découvre de plus en plus ce peuple japonais a travers vos yeux ils sont vraiment attachants et bienveillants merci Fred

[@GrizzlyNbearOverland]

Ca va faire drole quand on partira... il n y a pas un Japonais avec de mauvaises intentions. Tellement de respect pour tout. C'est incroyable er tellement agréable.

[@arkos55]

Used to crack up when we would see these Defenders all duded up on the streets of Tokyo when I lived there years ago. Guess there are a few trails there, though I can imagine most of those Defender spend 99% of their time as expedition showboats on the streets of Japan-not unlike most Defenders in most countries I suppose. Looks like a great group of dedicated Defender lovers. As for doubters of the new Defender, it could easily outdo most of those classics, especially if outfitted with the rear diff and terrain response. It may look soft, but it kicks the old defender’s ass in every off road shoot out.

[@NigelNaughton]

haha...never climbed a tree with a harness and rope before. If you fall there's lots of branches to catch you! ;-)

[@uwekammer5724]

I must admit that the new Defender looks cool 😎, but would I give my 130 away for a new Defender? Clear answer “No” to travel around the world, my Defender is my love 😍 an I would never give it up. I felt in love with Defender as a child and it is still the same. 😀👍🏻

[@brucehorner]

Some day covid will end.

[@sunshinecatcher8779]

if i could afford the new defender I would buy it for sure.

[@laurentcaraland1404]

Hello chouette rassemblement Land Rover, de bon moments !:) on aperçois une 2cv?

[@wynandloubser7646]

Did he say the rooftop conversion is made in South Africa

[@leighdearle5965]

Yes he did 😉 Alucab is South African I think?

[@GrizzlyNbearOverland]

The alucab is imported from ZA . Conversion done in Japan.

[@MrFillefloe]

Japan seems really amazing! Defenovery? :-D Its looks great.

[@billsoucess2448]

Thanks for suspension shots Stephanie . How did the tires perform?

[@leighdearle5965]

Tyres were good mate. They have actually performed well offroad. Can't fault them for what we've put them through since getting them. Only disappointed in the wear and damage for the low km... Did you notice the worn bushing in the Gopro shot?

[@billsoucess2448]

@@leighdearle5965 no I was just to busy enjoying the video

[@Jabber-ig3iw]

The new Defender is the best Discovery LR has ever made.

[@MeherabadMoments]

Great video effects!

[@peterbullen3347]

I think Landrover should offer you the use of one for a future leg of your journey...?

[@peterbullen3347]

The new defender 2020 is by all accounts a fantastic 4x4 but is it an overlanding vehicle? I really think Landrover have missed the mark here, can it be modified to take it round the world with a camper?

[@dice1200]

What a nice Movies!!! love you guys!!!

[@jppaul1054]

It's new but It's not as simple as the old landrovers which is the reason why old defenders are reliable

[@dongoldney]

Not cheap , I’m buying a Fuso cantor 4x4 to build my expedition truck . Price brand new single can , quoted $58950 plus on rds

[@mackirkpatrick3997]

The Fuso is The Fuso is no longer available in the US.

[@Jim-zn7ky]

Best thing about the new Defender is its 3500kg tow capacity, so if you do go bush you can tow a Landcruiser... When the Defender breaks down you can continue the trip and get home trouble free with the cruiser... Stick to the old Defenders! Best overlanding/defender channel by the way!

[@lameduck3630]

How sad.

[@Archiepopop]

I’m bored with the same old pathetic whiny comments. Here’s one for you, jealousy is a form of compliment.

[@StarrDaniel]

Amazing

[@andreasweber5638]

Just one sentence made me really smile:”I don’t even remember the last time I was driving off-road. Must’ve been in Afghanistan!” HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD COULD SAY THAT ? Suppose not too many. You’ve come a looong way...

[@GrizzlyNbearOverland]

Actually it was Mongolia. 😉 but not very off-road. I mean everything is pretty much off-road there. But very flat. Miss those big open spaces.

[@andrewg9236]

That looks one great club to be in 👍 🇯🇵

[@joelletendre1011]

Land Rover heaven. I love seeing the old Range Rover classics. Didn't get to see the Citroen up close though.:( Love the new Defender. We may consider one in the future for an overland build, but so far it seems like JLR is unable to deal with computer issues. They said in the past that they would be able to diagnose the new Defender via satellite, but they are having issues diagnosing even in the shop. I think we are going to stick with our LR3. I am removing the air suspension in ours in favour of coil springs. I am trying to make it is a simple as possible. Great video guys!

[@Jason-cl8hk]

That dark grey Range Rover looked in good nick - was it? Also, how’s the reliability been on the air bags you’ve fitted?

[@yorkchris10]

Des manœuvres militaires à quel fréquence

[@kirbylegaspi984]

Nice epsisode Leigh and Frenchie

[@bidule0745]

Une belle famille ! 👍👍🚗🛺🚙🚐🛴

[@MuTheGuardian]

It's all good, except for one thing: its name. To me, it's the new Land Rover 'nth usual looking modern comfy SUV'. I just don't see where the 'Defender' is. Besides that, wow! Great video, great people, great cars, amazing team!

[@mrcvry]

Main problem of all new cars... they are designed as „disposable“. Spare parts are sold for 5-10 years and after that the manufacturer wants to force you into buying a new car. That is why my „new” Land Rover is over 40 years old. That one will be on the road until they stop selling petrol and than it is easy to convert it to an electrically engine.

[@roguegunfighter9194]

In my (entirely unimportant) opinion, the new Defender would be awesome for a soccer mom living way out in the middle of nowhere with occasionally bad conditions and gravel roads, but I simply can't see it as a serious overland or off-road vehicle. There are too many electronics to go bad and the driver has no control of what the vehicle is doing. No amount of electronics can ever replace hundreds of hours of experience, driving, understanding the trail and what the vehicle is capable of. All that's needed off-road is good tires, some diff locks and a bit of experience. The new Defender takes all of that away and you don't really experience offroading or overlanding.

[@Archiepopop]

Grow up. move on

[@Defender110SLO]

Its nice but its not a Defender any more. Its cool super car. Can you imagine what will be with it in 10 years time aspecaly if you drive it off road. 🤔 Anderv P. White made a grat reviev.

[@insanity4232]

Keep it up 👍❤️

[@whiteeulogianraven7995]

I don't like it... But X-Mas is coming. Trust me, I wouldn't be mad at all.

[@janharald1714]

You 2 are so lucky you can say over Japanese famili nov don't you have a great time there injoy

[@asithajayasundera1631]

New Defender is made incorporating the North American soccer mom SUV platform to target the American Market. Land Rover should bring back its iconic defender back

[@hossp2365]

New Defender? Awesome tech. Awesome 4 x 4 system. But why? What is it for? There is already the Discovery and Range Rover. It’s just another SUV, not a competitor for Wrangler or LC 200GX. Definitely not an actual replacement for the utility of the Defender.

[@GeorgeChaidaris]

-Hey man... and why is your 2020 Defender stuck in that remote valley in Afghanistan?" -Aaah mate... yeah... see, the parking brake is normally released automatically but...you know... changed its bloody mind in Afghanistan..." Majestic overlanding machine (on 19" or 20" wheels...) #not

[@avneetkainth9816]

The new defender is nice but full of technology that will fail sooner rather than later and it's useless then as it will leave you stranded. It needs to be taken to a specialist to get it repaired so you will be stuck for a long time if you are in the middle of nowhere. The old defender can be fixed with the simplest of tools and any old mechanic can fix it.

[@spoonerbooner]

Defenders leading range rovers at back the Japanese have it in the right order, as always

[@sunshinecatcher8779]

that's allot of Landys

[@florinbaiduc]

Would you take it in the bush in Australia?

[@leighdearle5965]

No chance 😜

[@Archiepopop]

I’m sure Land Rover won’t have sleepless nights worrying what you think 🤔

[@bxl_lad9952]

"Would you drive it around the world, obviously not" - and there it is, that's essentially the argument why this new Defender will never replace the old... As nice as it may be, you would be foolish to take it overlanding, too much to go wrong, too technical to fix in the wild (imagine Nikolay trying to fix that for you! The man's a mechanical genius, but I would imagine even he'd shy away from all the electronics in there...) No doubt its a great on/off road vehicle, but unless they will make a version with all the electronics stripped back to bare minimum, then its days as the rugged go-anywhere, utility vehicle are over... But no worries, yours and many 1000's of others will live on likely longer than these new ones will ;-) I miss mine...

[@leighdearle5965]

Excellent comment, well said 😉

[@tsankotsankov760]

I totally agree with you man!

[@Archiepopop]

I’m sure Land Rover are quaking in their boots. Not.

[@manolob63]

Hi,there! salut Stéph , Hello Leigh ! I gonna write in French it'll be easyer ;-) Alors voilà... le nouveau Defender est certes très beau... MAIS...il me fait plus penser à un Range/Free/Discovery... et "Paraît" surtout moins costaud ...beaucoup d'électronique..c'est certes bien... mais à un moment...quand tu veux réparer...c'est moyen... en plus en 4x4 une boite "auto" ? bref beau mais pas ma "came"...je préfère l'ancien modèle ;-) une bien belle communauté "Land" au Japon !! prenez soin de vous ,portez-vous bien A+

[@Fe_lix]

There is absolutely not doubt the new Defender is a real Land Rover. You just have to watch all the time they are already spending in the garages being fixed to know !

[@leighdearle5965]

Good call 😂😂😂 It's in the Defender DNA 😜

[@Archiepopop]

Pathetic response. Move on