Gyro Aim Configuration Guide for PC - Steam, JoyShockMapper, and Controller Comparisons

By popular demand- an unpopular person walks you through getting reliable motion aim with modern controllers on PC. Give me a damn Deck, Gaben!
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This video contains music created by Valve for HL: Alyx and The Lab. Please don't sue
0:00 Intro
1:34 Steam method 1- Hybrid (action set)
5:56 Steam method 1b- Hybrid (mode shifting)
7:26 Steam method 2- Mouse joystick
9:28 Steam method 3- Full keyboard+mouse
12:33 Important notice
12:53 JoyShockMapper and Flick Stick
15:46 Controller comparisons

[@Nerrel]

Valve is beta testing a new gyro method and once it's finalized I'll redo this guide. Steam Input's UI has radically changed but all of the settings shown in the video still exist; they've just been split into separate menus and buried deeper in the interface. Action sets are the biggest change, so here's the gist of the new process: 1. In the "edit layout" page, scroll all the way down to the "+Action Sets" option. 2. Add a new action set and give it a simple name like "aiming" or "gyro." 3. You should now be able to tab between the regular and aiming set menus by pressing the L and R bumpers. Fill in the aiming set with the keyboard bindings like gyro mouse, WASD stick, and any other actions needed while aiming. 4. In the default set, add a command to the left trigger. Scroll right to the "action sets" tab and choose the "change action set" option; choose the aiming set, and disable the beep and notification. Afterwards, use the gear to right to change "regular press" mode to "start press." 5. Use L or R to switch to the aiming set and repeat step 4, this time choosing to change to the "default" set. Set this trigger mode to "release press." I will fight Gaben for this

[@ymellow.]

Thanks Nerrel

[@RandoomDude]

Octogon fight between Nerrel and Gaben no holds barred!

[@Moka-nh8hg]

Can you make a updated guide please

[@agnafrei]

Hey, Nerrel. I think there is a feature most gyro users end up missing out: you can have both gyro-aim on hold AND flickstick in a single config! I got the idea from RE4 where you can press a button to do an 180 turn. By this logic, when possible, I create a flickstick action layer that is activated on (?) button hold. It feels like a great middle ground between a more relaxed and a responsive/snappier playstyle!

[@Antor_exe]

I tried to follow the instructions with the new big picture, i can't create my own configuration, i can only use presets, that i cannot edit, whenever i try to change the mapping of a button it revert back to default automatically, and when creating an action set it get deleted, i cannot edit anything and its realy annoying how it work.. I would love for an updated guide with maybe a better gyro support tool than steam

[@westingtyler1]

I'll watch anything Nerrel makes. even an installation guide.

[@JOVAHK11N]

Even if it's an instalation guide that I don't need at the moment

[@Kayo501x]

He's got that comedy 👌

[@Zenik506]

Even if it's a tutorial on how to open a door

[@saygan2475]

Fr

[@phillipanselmo8540]

@@Zenik506 I'd rather watch a tutorial on how to lift a blue chair

[@Feuer_Kampfer]

I LIKE CATS, THANKS FOR MAKING A VIDEO FOR ME

[@KieWii]

I gotta say man, the stigma around motion controls had put me off for years, until I saw your video and tried it for myself. Now any game that uses aiming I use gyro, it's awesome.

[@DenkyManner]

Gyro was only a small part of the Wii, the majority was being forced to move your arms around, that's the bad part. Subtle angling of a standard controller for fine aim is the one part that has survived.

[@redline841]

Now enjoy the stigma while it lasts. Once gyro aim becomes mainstream, expect alot more headhunters haunting servers

[@Refreshment01]

No, motion aiming was probably the biggest part of the Wii. It even solve gyro aiming biggest issue by using the optical sensor to minimize drift. Of course since there wasnt enough interest this hybrid method was rarely used.

[@redline841]

@@Refreshment01 Yeah motion aiming on the Wii broke RE4's balance and many other games because you had so much freedom of movement

[@redline841]

@@DenkyManner You do know you don't have to do that, you can just mess with sensitivity and not have to move your arms around like crazy. I remember playing CoD4 on the wii and didn't move my arms that much.

[@Sanker1]

I love the fact that this guy, even if it's a tutorial, always puts his edition that characterizes him

[@Yulises]

Agreed. I don’t even need the tutorial, but I’ll still watch it. Perhaps one day I’ll consider emulation and whatnot. But at the moment, I’m not very tech savvy.

[@user-nj6bt5gy4s]

@@Yulises you don't have to be very tech savvy for things like emulation and what not, you just have to do some reading and have patience. The most "tech savvy" thing you'll probably do is go back and forth between directories and file systems. But that's very easy on Windows.

[@Anna_Rae]

I’d say there’s 2 things that you should’ve talked about: 1. There’s quite a handful of games where all you need to do is slap a mouse onto the gyro with a default gamepad template and it’ll just work. No action sets to keyboard layouts necessary. Doom eternal, risk of rain 2, borderlands, and quite a handful of games have no problems with this simple setup. IMO this should be the first thing you should check, before putting in all this work to have 2 separate sets. 2. As far as the shakiness with pulling the trigger while using gyro, or just shakiness in general if your hands shake too much: minimum movement threshold saves the day. It’s effectively a “deadzone” where you can adjust how much movement is required on the gyro before it’ll actually move you crosshair. It’s very helpful if you have trouble with pulling the trigger and the controller gets jostled around, or if you’re a person that has very shaky hands. Just wanted to give some tips about it. I’ve been playing with my steam controller since 2017 and it’s easily one of my favorite controllers.

[@alexc4003]

Can confirm the first point as i'm currently playing Grand Theft Auto III (original version, not the so called "Definitive" edition) where besides putting the Ginput mod to give controller button prompts and set a profile, I just had to go to the settings with just the Gamepad steam profile and put mouse on the gyro options for the DualShock 4 (although mouse camera only works if the in-game controller options are set to Standard as Classic it's pretty much like PS2 GTA III and has no mouse camera). That said, i'll now try to test flick stick for quick turning.

[@FOXDUDETV]

Hello! Is there a list online of games that simply allow mouse as gyro?

[@donoteatmikezila]

Minimum movement threshold can be dangerous, because even a little bit of it can destroy your small movement precision. A better first step is to try trigger pull dampening.

[@ashishgup]

I was wondering about this. This seems to be the simplest thing that should work for modern fps games. I played Doom 2016 entirely using this and it worked well.

[@EnvyOmicron]

@@donoteatmikezila Trigger pull dampening only works for guns that are meant to be fired one shot at a time. For guns that are designed for sustained fire, like machine guns, the drastically lowered sensitivity makes them almost unusable.

[@fudgepuppy91]

It's also worth noting that if you use mouse input for gyro, it's good to first lower the mouse sensitivity in the game's settings to the lowest option, and then raise the sensitivity and smoothing of the gyro in steam's settings. This allows for the smoothest possible input as the gyro has more data to work with per movement.

[@akuro6470]

This is very true, and for anyone wondering why there's a difference think of it like this: There is a raw input (which would be the steam gyro sensitivity, in this case) which is the base speed and is as smooth as it gets, and then there is an input modifier which is the in-game sensitivity setting. This setting basically applies a multiplier to the raw input, which can result in jittery movement and skipped pixels as it doesn't interpolate (usually). As far as I'm aware, this also is an issue which crops up through the windows mouse sensitivity settings so if you're experiencing general mouse jitters, give that a look, you want to be changing the mouse sensitivity through its own driver or hardware DPI switches. TL;DR in-game sensitivity is a modifier to the raw input which can sometimes for example make 1 pixel worth of mouse input into 2 or more in-game pixels of mouse movement.

[@shocknawe]

Wow. This is actually amazing to know. I had no idea. Thx, mate.

[@luukderuijter1332]

Exactly, if you try it thw other way around, it will cause a lot of stuttering and a lot of skipping

[@WeAreJacket]

Didn't know this, now I do. Thanks!

[@projectvagrant8197]

Also turn off mouse acceleration in windows or it will carry over this way (I think it's called "enhance pointer precision" in windows settings, turn that off)

[@Eishous]

Gyro Aim is the best thing that came out of the wii motion crontroll craze. That and Wario Ware smooth moves.

[@KingKrouch]

Games really should consider implementing a vertical camera reset input binding for the scenario that someone may be using gyro for aiming. Valve recently added that to HL2, Portal 2, and L4D2, and it makes playing those games with a controller really pleasant.

[@donoteatmikezila]

The irony here is that FPS games used to all have that option baked in, called "Look Spring", because people back in the day needed the crutch as they struggled with keyboard aiming or learned to aim with a mouse.

[@Some-guy-on-the-internet]

JoyShockMapper has this built in. You can assign a button that while held will "lift the mouse". Essentially it pauses all gyro input until the button is released. This is better than Splatoon's camera reset because instead of trying to find a comfortable position through trial and error, you just aim the camera where you want it to be, pause the gyro, tilt the controller into a comfortable position, then unpause the gyro. Simple as that.

[@bland9876]

I've never had issues using up and down on the joystick or trackpad to reset the camera and I'm mad that Splatoon doesn't just let us look up and down with the joystick with gyro enabled.

[@Refreshment01]

Splatoon devs had a good reason to do it this way. At higher joystick sensitivities theres change of input errors in the vertical axis since motion with the thumbs are not perfect in one axis. Theres a lot more vertical control with the motion sensor specialy when using 2 hands to stabilize the controller. People just dont like it because they ard not used to it.

[@donoteatmikezila]

@@Refreshment01 That doesn't really make sense when I play a laundry list of PC FPS games using gyro with full right stick control and on-demand gyro aiming. There's no good reason to limit other forms of aiming just because gyro is also available. At least make it an option so that people that don't have this non-issue you're describing can opt out of that nonsense. There's no reason to force any alterations to a game's normal control scheme at all when offering gyro. It is literally a drop-in upgrade.

[@MagnusVenatus]

I'm definitely eager to see the full range of the Dualsense functionality come to PC

[@QMMarc]

I doubt it'll happen tbh, but i hope i'm wrong.

[@bearpuns5910]

The adaptive triggers and haptics are in a few games, so it’s possible. It just comes down to developers adding those features and bringing them to PC

[@yumitsup]

DualSenseX is a program like DS4Windows but... for the dualsense obviously and it has options to enable the adaptive triggers and audio haptics but ofc it keeps the adaptive triggers on the mode you set it to the whole time so per example if you use R2 for something in the menu on a shooter, you still would get the "recoil" feel. At least it's an option and depending on the game it might be worth setting up.

[@QMMarc]

@@Exarian I think you can do it with a program called dualsensex or something, its similar to ds4windows.

[@trainsfemme]

there is now software for Linux that can remap the dynamic triggers of the DualSense and change the trigger travel and distance/pull length + tension, though it's stuck to just one value at the moment. I'm already on Linux, but for the rest of y'all I can't wait till someone makes something like this for Windows

[@KevinCow]

A suggestion for anyone using PS4 or 5 pads: Set the fire action to Soft Pull on the trigger, then make sure the Soft Pull Mode is set to Hair Trigger, then set the Sensitivity to pretty low. Like Nerrel points out, analog triggers can wobble your aim more than digital triggers, but this helps with that. Also, not gyro related, but play around with the touchpad. You can get Steam to do some pretty cool things with it. At the very least, mirroring the D-pad to directional swipes lets you access those functions without taking your thumb off the left stick. The touchpad is the main reason I don't use my Switch Pro.

[@UniqueVagueHope]

Alternatively, you can assign toggle on off to another button such as clicking on left touchpad

[@majorgnu]

The touchpad is great, especially for games with a lot of extra keys since you can map them to touchpad menus.

[@TheFloodFourm]

I’ve been wondering how to deal with this, thank you!

[@Creshex8]

YES! THIS! The touchpad is just incredible. I split it into two sections, and then assign each to four buttons. This creates 8 buttons on the touchpad. This was incredibly useful when playing Rage 2 on the Xbox Pc gamepass. That games needs a ton of buttons. It has many weapons and “magic” powers, along with several secondary items (like grenades, health stims, and ability or overdrive infusions). I’ve never seen a FPS requiring so many keys. I can’t even comprehend how much more complicated it would have been on a Switch Pro. Don’t forget to take advantage of Steam’s ability to activate different keys using the same button through varying between short presses, long presses, and double taps (and more). Even with 8 extra keys from the touch pad, it STILL wasn’t enough to fit all the controls. So I definitely had to take advantage of the differing button press activations.

[@samuelknytt9434]

The only thing I'd add about polling rate is it's noticable at framerates higher than 60fps. When using a controller with a poll rate of 66hz at a 120hz monitor, the camera seems to turn at 66 frames per second, even if the game is actually running at a higher rate. It's weird to describe, but it basically means the switch pro is capped at 60fps for games using the gyro, which is fine for anyone with a standard monitor, but probably not enough for players who put a lot of money into their rigs.

[@automata.]

Thanks for sharing. Good to keep in mind for high refresh rate displays

[@elinor8569]

How do I know the polling rate of a specific controller?

[@helloguy8934]

@@elinor8569 Google it I guess. Pro controller has a polling rate of 500hz.

[@helloguy8934]

Yeah. But most controller's default polling rates will be higher than that.

[@samuelknytt9434]

@@helloguy8934 I saw that coming from a test of overclocking controller gyro. I'm not sure if it's 100% accurate, considering it says the PS4 controller has a polling rate of 800hz, which... No. The report I saw of the DS4 was that it went up to 240hz. The dock on the switch supports only up to 125hz, while other tests show the switch pro hovering around 75hz. I've seen reports of 66hz, so there's a lot of misinformation floating around out there. Doesn't really change that the switch pro is bottlenecked at 60fps.

[@qoolerade]

I remember when the original Splatoon came out and supported Gyro functionality - the amount of people I saw in-game and online that were confused and appaled by the idea of gyro aim on controller was astounding. Personally, I've wanted it in all my games since then. Glad to finally have a proper tutorial for this!

[@matthewmuir8884]

Funny enough, while I never played the Splatoon demo, I was first exposed to gyro aim through Wind Waker HD, and I quite enjoyed using it. The first game I've encountered where I preferred stick-only aiming released this year: _Pokémon Legends: Arceus._

[@Nighto]

@@matthewmuir8884 Honestly, same. I'd never heard of the debate, and when I saw it in WWHD, I'm like "Oh, you can aim by moving the pad. That's cool!"

[@AlphaladZXA]

If anything splatoon is the BEST and WORST with gyro aim. I really hate that when it is on you can not look up or down with the analog stick it has to be motion when left and right is normal turning

[@Cobyba]

the first time i used gyro aim, which was when i played splatoon 2, i was super skeptical and went in thinking it would be a dumb gimmick. after playing a lot of splat 2 and botw i can confidently say gyro aim is amazing and i hope that it is utilized more often and improves even more than it has.

[@This-Was-Sparta]

Same, yeah. The Octo Expansion really forced me to get good with it. Glad it did, honestly, it's so good.

[@cowboycurtis4944]

@@This-Was-Sparta I'm a no gyro luddite, but I was able to beat Octo Expansion fairly easily solely with sticks.

[@This-Was-Sparta]

Oh yeah, I don't doubt that. I just suck with dual analog. I grew up mainly playing on pc, you see. The switch pro was my first introduction to a "modern" controller.

[@UniqueVagueHope]

Breath of the wild broke me and iv used gyro since for all aiming

[@bbbbbbb51]

I grew up playing shooters with a controllers but switched to PC over a decade ago & just haven't been able to ever go back. BotW's gyro aiming for bows made me realize I could enjoy aiming with a controller again thanks to gyro. I'll get a real gyro controller for my PC some day, but in general I prefer m&k for fps/tps games & a controller for the rest, which wouldn't benefit from gyro.

[@bloodbond3]

Okay, I've rewatched this 3 times because I love your videos on all things motion sensor. And I have 3 ideas to contribute: #1) For hybrid layouts, set the left trigger to (a) *Normal Press* to output standard LT and (b) *Long Press* for (#2) *Hold Action Set* . This way you can skip the "start press" and "release press" steps. You can also adjust the long press duration to be short enough that it'll mostly be unnoticeable, but you can still tap LT normally for quick-time events. #3) You may improve DualSense performance in gyro shooting by activating hair triggers or just setting the firing action to a soft press.

[@Yuggdrasil]

We're gonna need an update of this video, the whole interface has been changed :/

[@JibbSmartGD]

The perfect video

[@THEnohandsman]

I just wanna say, thank you Nerrel, for making me a Gyro evangelist. Your videos have been incredibly insightful, not to mention so very entertaining, and I hope you continue spreading the good word that is gyro aiming!

[@shocknawe]

Same here, brother or sister or other!

[@TheFloodFourm]

Amazing how many people wrote off gyro without putting any thought into it until they were told to lol

[@FieryMeltman]

@@TheFloodFourm That's just a taste of the power of social influencing.

[@TheFloodFourm]

@@FieryMeltman stupid influencing*

[@LyndanTylor]

10:44 There's another feature that's really useful for mapping multiple things to one button: Activators. When choosing your binding, click Show Activators, Add Activator, and choose which type you want under Activation Type. You can map to a regular press, double-press, long press, start and release presses, and chorded press!

[@Creshex8]

This was a very handy feature I used when playing Rage 2. That game requires a stupidly huge amount of buttons. Even with the different press methods, it wasn’t enough. If you use the Dual Sense, you can split the touch pad into two regions, and each region can hold four buttons. I needed both the touch pad AND the different activators for individual buttons to house all the controls that game needed.

[@jmsmn]

If you have the Steam controller, a nice solution to the lack of "Always On" on Mouse and other settings is to map the gyro activation to Right Pad Touch. Makes it so that you're basically correlating gyro with aiming.

[@sanjinii8325]

You have a really cute cat! :3 I was expected it to show up more, but all I did was learn how to use gyro 😔

[@zydomic3962]

Never really considered gyro before watching this, but I decided to try your RE2 setup. It genuinely feels like how the game was meant to be played. I can only hope that gyro is something that will become a standard soon.

[@Mr.Welbig]

Using a DS4 and Steam input to achieve "RE4 Wii" styled motion controls into RE5 on PC was a pretty liberating task to accomplish. It's weird to use at first but works far better than expected, and has the best aiming accuracy of any control setup I've had with the game. Even when compared to RE5 Gold on PS3 or the Switch port.

[@AL2009man]

I've done the same but with RE5. Thankfully, the PC version provides the same Controls type from RE5's PS Move controls scheme as a option, simply called "Cursor Aiming". I took advantage of it and make a config outta it. Although, that one's more complicated to setup than RE4...good thing I wrote a entire guide about it. :)

[@Jurarigo]

Agreed. I actually only played RE5 using gyro aiming on Steam and the game felt amazing.

[@TheFloodFourm]

I remember spending like $80 to play RE5 with motion controls on PS3 just to find out they fucked it up and aim reset every time you lifted your gun up.

[@Mr.Welbig]

@@TheFloodFourm I believe that's just the nature of the gyro motion that was implemented. The gyro doesn't have a boundary like the sensor bar. Several Switch games like Skyward Sword and Mario All Stars have a center button to reset the cursor to accommodate the gyro motion controls. I totally feel you since it caught me off guard the first time I played RE5 on PS3.

[@natanmaia3575]

I'm grateful for the community bindings, honestly. Imagine having to set up this stuff for every game you want to use Gyro (or any other control scheme)...

[@RhizometricReality]

Why imagine. I already do.

[@gvulture1277]

Someone's gotta do it. Get yourself used to it now and it will become second nature.

[@RhizometricReality]

@@gvulture1277 exactly. Every game fitted to my inclinations, to my hands. And the next person, can import that, change what they need, and fit it to their hands. Lots of options, all available by the community.

[@haunter4764]

Gyro aim on the Steam Deck is a dream come true♥️ And I'm so glad that Horizon Forbidden West on the PS5 has gyro aim, my gameplay experience in it sky rocketed

[@kyyourneutralisminekiske7104]

This dude makes the video equivalent of old instruction booklets in games even for the most basic or mundane topic and I will always live for it

[@slavovitshvykhodzev4625]

I've already been setting up gyro aiming in my games but this video taught me things I wasn't aware of in the steam input settings, thank you! I hope more games will make use of gyro natively in the future.

[@DerekSquirreltail]

I've been playing shooters almost non stop ever since your earlier videos showed me how great gyro aim was, after decades of never touching the genre because I didn't like either major control option. I hope this does for new people what you're earlier videos did for me.

[@Creshex8]

Good grief. For a second I thought I wrote this comment. My experience is very similar. Mice are certainly functional for FPS games, but I just never enjoyed using them. I also hated aim assist. And analog controls I enjoyed far less than even mice. I’ve been gaming for more than three decades, and I only started playing FPS games almost non-stop once we started getting FPS Switch games and I learned how to set up gyro for the PC. If you like a hybrid experience (close combat and plenty of ranged fighting), I suggest you try God of War Ragnarok. It has great gyro implementation.

[@KanaevM]

Oh, I was thinking about it for years, but was always too lazy to research. Gyro is such a missed opportunity for PS5 and XSX. It was a feature on PS for years and they could've finally brought it mainstream with optional gyro+aiming. It would've been great as an option.

[@OnTheArchipelago]

I've been using gyro aiming on pc for a while, but it seems most people really don't enjoy using it unfortunately.

[@bigjohnsbreakfastlog5819]

Gyro is like backwards compatibility; the people who use it talk about how great and valuable it is... And there's everyone else. It's frustrating so I get it.

[@Jmcinally94]

100% agree. I was lucky enough to get a PS5 but I can't bring myself to play FPS games on it because I've gotten so used to flick stick. So stuck playing the latest games on a GTX970. Fortnite added JibbSmarts flick stick not that long ago. My hope is that that level of exposure will encourage more games to bring that control configuration built-in.

[@5izzy557]

Wow, I knew steam input was good, but this has blown my mind just to how powerful it actually is.

[@velvenwinterhaven]

Always happy to see a Nerrel video. I was actually trying to figure out all of this, thanks Nerrel.

[@ManleyReviews]

The most culinary form of aiming.

[@donoteatmikezila]

I just want to say you're doing god's work in making Gyro Aim a bigger thing. Your earlier videos on gyro aim got me to really learn and appreciate it, and now I am totally spoiled and feel offended when gyro aim isn't available if the controller supports it. You have fully converted at least one person that is now a gyro fanatic that spreads the word. Quick tip: Make sure you are using a high-quality bluetooth adapter on your PC. I had a hell of a time getting Switch Pro/DualSense to work reliably using the ancient USB dongle I dug out of a drawer, but after buying a new one they work correctly. It wasn't a problem until I started using gyro, I'm guessing that it was always slightly janky and I just didn't notice because it's so much easier to tell if there's a problem with a smooth input like gyro. So tl;dr don't use a shitty BT adapter. Bonus tip: You don't have to have a down-sights or over-shoulder-aim button in your game to use the hybrid method, you can still setup a "gyro on" button in the exact same way by using a free button or a paddle on the Steam controller. I usually use a high-speed camera on the right stick for fast turning and then a gyro-aim button on a spare trigger, bumper, or paddle for fine aiming once the target is in view.

[@DougSalad]

Make that 2 people. I don't play games that don't have gyro. And seeing him use it in Project 64 here makes me eager to set it up myself for that.

[@thatzaliasguy]

Tip - Set the default action set for controller triggers to be analogue on soft pull, with their trigger types set as normal threshold. This will keep the trigger presses normal like a traditional controller, with full analogue ranges, and only the full pull of the left trigger switches action set to the mouse-gyro aiming. Also, you can mimic the multi-press modes of face buttons via the show-activators and add multi-keypresses with different press modes (tap/hold/double-tap/triple-tap) and their start/end times in milliseconds via the sliders. This works well for a M&KB only titles that have a separate Use key (E) from the Reload key (R); You can set the X-button on an Xbox controller to act with tapping it activates Use (E), but holding it for a short period (2ms more) activates Reload (R), or vice versa.

[@RakibHossain-by5ky]

Thanks for such amazing reviews, and in-depth instructions. This is THE definitive guide to everything related to gyro. All your efforts are very appreciated!

[@youraveragegamer4604]

Just wanted to say that I love your content, even if I don't need or am ever gonna use half the information you give, I still enjoy the videos so much, and get overjoyed when a new video releases. Thank you Nerrel

[@JOVAHK11N]

Nerrel is out here doing God's work, and spreading the word about gyro aim 💕

[@diegog1853]

Never heard of flick stick as a concept until now. I have to say that is pretty awesome. Controllers are usually better than mouse and keyboards for games that map the full 360° to the stick, like 3D platformers and twin stick shooters. Flick stick essentially turns every fps into a twin stick shooter and let gyro deal with the aiming. Instead of making gyro and the stick do the same thing but each with their disadvantages (sticks are not very precise and gyro can't do very large continuous movements), let them do different things, each focusing on what they do best. It is genius.

[@UniqueVagueHope]

You can also just turn up the sensitivity in game n lower in gyro.

[@diegog1853]

@@UniqueVagueHope Thumbs are not that accurate. As nerrel mentioned in another video, in gyro and in mouse controls you engage your wrist and arm joints in the motion. you can get greater travel and finer control than what you would get with 1cm of thumb motion. Try moving a mouse cursor with a stick to see how difficult it is to be fast and precise.

[@UniqueVagueHope]

@@diegog1853 Yes. That's why you Increase the sensitivity in the ingame settings, but lower it in gyro settings. So you can make fine adjustments with gyro, but wider movements with stick without full flick stick.

[@diegog1853]

​@@UniqueVagueHope Yeah... I agree that is an option. But I think is more of a patch over a system that doesn't work very well instead of a solution. It solves some problems but creates others and not everyone can play at high sensitivity. It is fundamentally different than flick stick. And maybe flick stick is not the best solution either, I haven't tried it yet. But it is a very interesting inovation which tries to solve a problem instead of walking arround it. Effectively adding a feature exclusive to a controller while retaining at the same time the precision of a mouse or something close to it. But of course... your option is an option, also increasing sensibility of gyro and decreasing for the stick is another possible option with its own advantages and disadvantages for other players.

[@Refreshment01]

The problem here is: People. The advantage over flickstick is that it works as peopld expect with the addition of finer control. Since the Wii we have had a more natural, precise way go point/aiming but people refused to adapt. Even camera control was improved but the industry rejected it.

[@tomsantos9448]

My dude isn't gonna stop till the whole world sees the light of gyro aim and honestly I'm on board

[@Tetsaga]

Thank you for making a guide on this. I love watching anything you make and who knows? Maybe I'll try out Gyro after this video.

[@Omega20000]

watching him become more and more done with the anti gyro people is fucking funny as hell.

[@Neoxon619]

I really hope Fortnite is what leads more shooters to implement gyro aiming & flick stick. Usually most of the other shooters follow what Fortnite does, so perhaps gyro/flick stick will be another instance of that. With that said, the fact that Fortnite doesn’t support the Switch Pro Controller on PC is unfortunate. As for mixed input, it should be a common feature not just for gyro, but also for accessibility reasons (Ex: Mouse & a Left Joy-Con).

[@Qua416]

You convinced me last time you talked about gyro aim, so I'm glad you're making this easy for everyone to give it a try.

[@chrisbrookshire861]

This was excellent. Thank you Nerrel

[@nowonmetube]

Great job 👏 I hope gyro takes off quicker than it used to. After playing Breath of the Wild it's a no brainer for me. I don't understand why it still hasn't become a standard option yet.

[@dj980918]

Thanks for the video, dude. Finding good guide for mouse like joystick setting was difficult. Personally, I don't mind losing analog movement, but I hate losing rumble. I think I'll stick with mouse like joystick to have both gyro and rumble when the game doesn't support gamepad + mouse.

[@superbro6413]

Not only is this a highly informative video on figuring out gyro aiming on steam, this actually help me with demystifing how steam big picture controller setup works. Thanks Nerrel and cat!

[@MultiRacz]

Took me a couple of extra minutes of fiddling to get this working on the deck. Works like a charm. Thanks!

[@agenticex]

The cat break likely just doubled the view numbers and retention you're going to receive!

[@obeqwaet1772]

Hey Nerrel, I do want to thank you because I've been using Gyro Aiming whenever I can and I have noticed in FPS gaming (when configurable) that my KDR has increased somewhat. The biggest issue I find is gyro on/off and its a bit jarring. But it has been quite smooth beyond its hiccups for games that aren't specifically configured for it from the gate. It hits a strange gray zone of 'this feels great' and 'something is off'.

[@Mezurashii5]

What do you mean by gyro on/off being jarring? Like, with having it on just for ADS or ratcheting?

[@obeqwaet1772]

@@Mezurashii5 Going from non Gyro Aim to it turning on and it recentering at where im supposed to be aiming. Theres always that slight period of where I was previously looking at dead-on to it being slightly off or moving around which throws me off. The snap-to sometimes is off from where im intending to aim and it is a bit jarring. Its one of the things I still have trouble getting used to. After watching the video Nerrel mentioned the trigger press/release being a factor in gyro aiming and I admit that it has been an issue in using gyro controllers. Haven't swapped triggers with shoulder buttons though, not sure I want to.

[@UniqueVagueHope]

I just keep it on always.

[@animeking1357]

What does KDR stand for?

[@obeqwaet1772]

@@animeking1357 kill to death ratio

[@geeguy7429]

I'm so happy this video came out cause i was just binging a bunch of nerrel a couple days ago

[@scoRp471scorp471]

hell yeah I love your gyro videos, they are always super informative and comprehensive

[@bruce1947]

This video needs more cats. You promised me lots of cats, but i am not satisfied with the amount of cats. Great tutorial, but not enough cats. 3/10

[@Nerrel]

This is a known issue that we are working to address, please standby

[@bruce1947]

@@Nerrel thank you Nerrel customer support for your quick response.

[@Agos226]

Playing with gyro with the first time changed everything for me, I was shocked at just how natural it was. I’ve played with dual sticks for two decades but just playing gyro for a few weeks now I literally cannot go back to dual sticks lol. Thanks for turning me on to this

[@Creshex8]

Your experience is similar to mine. But I’m shocked at how so many people have the opposite experience. I synced with the gyro almost instantly. I just needed to adjust to not using it TOO much for looking (this will make it feel like you don’t have enough range in your hands and arms). I needed to put a little more of the work load for lookin onto the right stick. But after that, it almost feels like the crosshairs are now being controlled with my thoughts. What amazes me is not how incredibly easy and fun the gyro is, but taking very difficult shots even with a mouse are almost effortless. I’m playing God of War Ragnarok, and the ease at which I can snap shot people in the head or legs is just amazing. And maybe more hilarious, I actually think the disadvantages of the gyro are a feature: the aim shake from pulling the trigger. Keeping steady hands is a welcome exercise to train while playing with the Dual Sense, since it’s a skill useful in real life, like when shooting actual firearms. The best use of the Dual Sense was definitely in Horizon: Forbidden West. You pull all the way back to draw the bow, and you had to work to keep steady hands to release the trigger and let the arrow fly. It was challenging but a lot of fun. But I also had to laugh at the absurdly impossible shots I made that would have been incredibly difficult even with a mouse. I’m talking about shooting small bolts off giant robotic turtles, shooting tusks out of the open mouths of the robotic hippos, and even taking insanely far headshots from humans riding mounts at distances so far away I had to calculate arrow travel time. I beat the game on hard with no aim assist (as I always do when I have access to gyro).

[@Anonicc]

Thanks for the crazy comprehensive guide, been meaning to learn how to do this for RDR2.

[@yearleyc]

This was very helpful and well explained, I followed every detail and it came out perfect. Good tutorial for gyro thumbs up!

[@michaeldean6635]

hey i recently bought a vader pro 2, im disabled and cant use a mouse/kmb anymore to play games but i can use controller. I CANT WAIT To get my controller i had no idea this tech was a thing, theres so many games on pc ive wanted to play but couldnt for obvious reasons. THANK you so much for this video cuz im a neanderthal and setting this up on steam would have been a herculien task.

[@Zhoaten]

Unfortunately Steam controller settings have since been updated and there are seemingly zero tutorials on how to setup gyro aim now. It's honestly even harder to understand now. I really got used to using gyro aiming on console, so losing the option on PC REALLY sucks.

[@grackleboi2523]

Oh man I've been waiting for a guide like this.

[@ananon5771]

that first method is actually one ive never heard of,but its actually very cool. great video,alot of people probably needed this and seeing you do it well is very nice. and good to see the steam controllers gyro is about the same as the others,cause that other video about the steam controller worried me as a steam controller lover.

[@Jongamebeer]

8bitdo's SN30 Pro controller has gyro as well. It might be interesting to test that controller out for yourself if you were interested.

[@DoomRater]

I use this myself and it works like a Switch Pro controller, but I mean it's in Switch Pro controller mode

[@RevWorkshop]

I have the Pro 2 but I'm kind of lost on how to set up gyro for it. Steam's detecting it as an xbox controller and I have no option to activate gyro.

[@Jongamebeer]

@@RevWorkshop I set it to nintendo switch mode and that worked for me.

[@tofutofu6268]

@@RevWorkshop Dont use x-input and connect to pc using switch input instead steam should detect it as a switch pro controller

[@RevWorkshop]

@@tofutofu6268 @Jongamebeer Thank you both! Didnt know Switch mode worked on PC. Cheers!

[@ronman3235]

Any shot you'll do an updated version of the tutorial part of this for the new big picture steam input UI?

[@DenLeonRX]

Grea video, those tips at the end was hilarious xD

[@Hysteria98]

Lmao, i've JUST noticed GabeN's face hidden in the left joystick AND the capture button in the video thumbnail! Very good, Nerrel.

[@lucasm20]

The 8BitDo SN30 Pro/Pro+ is also a good alternative since it can run in Pro Controller mode (which has the gyro enabled) with the ergonomics of a PS controller.

[@DeepDiveDevin]

I have a pro 2 and I love it. I only wish I could use the analog triggers in switch mode, or map the back paddles to their own functions. Guess the steam controller still has us beat in that regard.

[@yazuak]

Nerrel, you've brought me to the light as far as Gyro aim is concerned. Thank you for being a crusader at the forefront of gyro adoption.

[@marcgomez8391]

Will definitely come back to this video next time I play a PC game that benefits from aiming and thus gyro. For the time being I just watched the video because I love Nerrel's style and editing.

[@arranr]

Great video. I don't do much with controller on PC anymore, but I got a stream controller in the early days and still enjoy it's functionality. Mapping was a nightmare at the time, and while that was improved with time, it's still intimidating.

[@TiagoTiagoT]

Valve needs to add "analog emulation" to all remappings of analog inputs to digital outputs; many of the modes do not let you control the rate of key tapping in proportion to how much you're pushing/squeezing the input (or how fast you're rotating the gyro), and in many games if that was present it would produce pretty good results.

[@superswiftpics]

I kind of use the hybrid method. I eventually realized that trying to force the game to accept multiple inputs is a useless gesture and most games support analog movement but not button presses. I have everything on my controller set to keyboard actions and have my left analog stick as the only controller action. If this still doesn't work I just set gyro as controller mouse. It's not as good but it's not the worst compromise. I really wish that more games supported native steam controller support. Rocket league is one of the few examples that actually use this but since epic games bought it, the steam controller support is broken and some inputs don't work. I hate how I have to spend hours in halo infinite getting a control scheme I kind of like and then barely play the game. Playing CSGO was amazing because I could just open up the steam input screen and set whatever action I like to whatever button. I like having one button that does a 180 degree turn, steam has that baked in. Having native steam support means I don't have to go through the hassle. I don't know why more developers don't support it.

[@Wabajak13]

Was binging all your old videos yesterday and now you bless us with another. My 50 year old wired 360 controller means I can't actually use this guide but you best believe I'm gonna watch it intently.

[@RhizometricReality]

Yoooo, yes you can c120 gyro mouse (10usd) velcro or tape bottem of controller, Press any button on keyboard side (facing down) to wake it from sleep. This offers a very cheap always on alternative

[@kal2045]

No matter what video you make, I will drop everything to watch it. I'm excited to try out gyro aim on my own soon!

[@TheOneTrueStAN]

I've got no immediate plans to set up a gyro aim controller for my PC, but I still watched this whole thing. If Nerrel makes a 40 minute air conditioner installation guide, I will watch it.

[@vvcq]

One of these days, Nerrel will rename his channel to Gyro Nerrel and start posting "Oddly Satisfying Gyro Aim Headshot Compilation" videos.

[@danielknight3148]

Great video as always, Nerrel

[@MikeStu]

Nice, thanks a ton for this Nerrel. Big Picture layout is way different nowondays (as you anticipated it would be) but it's quite easy to find all functions mentioned in the video. Sorta bizarre how counterintuitive this whole process is but oh well.

[@zizyip6203]

I think most people are afraid of Gyro aiming because once you play with it and get used to it. It can be hard to go back to regular aiming. I know I found it difficult to aim without gyro after playing fortnite and a few other games with it.

[@Creshex8]

Even if mouse and gyro were completely identical in performance, I’d still use the gyro because it is VASTLY more fun. I barely touched more than a few FPS games for a few decades of time. I didn’t enjoy mouse aiming, and I despised aim assist in addition to thoroughly hating analog aiming. Now I play FPS games all the time. Without the gyro, I simply wouldn’t be playing FPS at all.

[@Heidegaff]

The second Valve releases a Steam Controller 2, I'm switching off the Xbox One S controller.

[@joserobertoportilloescoto6510]

Thank you nerrel! You are the first person to make a video that makes it so easy to understand. Gyro aim here we go!

[@hikihub8387]

OMG, THANK YOU, THANK YOU SO MUCGH FOR THIS VIDEO. I was looking for a video about this subject a long time ago.

[@pawes7418]

You can replace flick stick with higher sensitivity on steam controller's trackpad. I mean full swipe = 360* in game , half swipe = 180*. I do that on my steam controller for about 2 years now and I can say that this method is great replacement for flick stick.

[@U.Inferno]

Steam Controller also allows Trackball so you can technically flick it without actually using flick stick.

[@RunstarHomer]

It's mindboggling to me that all this effort is required on the player's part. Just support gyro aiming natively in your damn games, developers! It's especially frustrating that in a lot of cases gyro aim *is* natively supported on switch, but not on other platforms.

[@davidyoung9289]

Literally the best intro tutorial to steam config, let alone gyro setup.

[@youmgsandwiche]

I don't even have any of these controllers, but Nerrel videos are always a great time

[@Mennenth]

Excellent video! Thanks for pointing out the strength of the steam controller; keyboard and mouse, only without the keyboard and mouse. Its the single best controller that was ever made to fill that task. Depending on how you set up the right trackpad, it doesnt even matter that its not as good for flickstick. I tend to play with the sensitivity high enough that a single full horizontal swipe results in a 360 turn, so a half swipe (because the thumb stays mostly centered on the pad) accomplishes the same thing as tilting the stick back with flickstick (a 180). I then crush the vertical sensitivity scale by half, 180 for a full vertical so a 90 on a half, for easy y axis recentering which is something flickstick cant do without an additional dedicated button. Enable trackball with low friction and high vertical friction scale, and it even has a form of infinite turn! I'd say the trackpad likely has a higher skill ceiling than flickstick as a result, but flickstick will be easier to get used to (sort of, trackpad low sensitivity easier than flickstick, flickstick easier than trackpad high sensitivity).

[@existentialselkath1264]

If xbox released a new controller with gyro I guarantee it would make gyro almost completely standard. Whether or not you like the console, theres no denying it's the go to controller for pc

[@majorgnu]

All thanks to the notion that it's the controller you're "supposed to use" on Windows.

[@DeepDiveDevin]

If it doesn't have gyro, it's not go-to

[@64bitmodels66]

@@majorgnu its made by the company that made the controller so e i hope they add it in though, no reason not to at this point

[@CptJistuce]

It would be very nice to see, since it'd get gyro added to the XInput libraries instantly.

[@utuberz123456789]

Finally got around to following this to set up gyro for the first time and instantly set a new highscore in re4r mercs. Thanks for making me a better gamer, nerrel.

[@isasitis9685]

Nice to see new videos on youtube about gyro, took a few tips, tnx. Also interested to discover all variations of holding gamepad while using gyro

[@doi2017]

I LOVE queefer southern boy

[@yellowfirehydrant]

i think you should change your full legal name to Mr.Gyro

[@DarbyCupit]

Thank you for the instructions, Nerrel! ^^

[@sweatygamergainz870]

Seriously in love with gyro!!! I love the ending too😂😂😂

[@deadhelix]

ever since splatoon i was awakened to how gryo is the way of controller fps future. this would cut the need for aim assist in competitive multiplayer and break the barrier of debate thats been going for so long as whether a controller should be allowed or not. I know some people who can’t get used to MnK, some who literally can’t. Aim Assist helps for making their experience more enjoyable, but can be abused in a competitive setting. Some games know this and don’t allow aim assist which makes even casual play with a controller a pain for the people who don’t like MnK. I know this vid is old and small pick up to normalize gyro is happening but I hope that more people realize it’s potential because more ways to play games is just a net positive for all

[@rajackar]

Great stuff. I love gyro aim. I'm using DS4windows. This lets you add gyro controls as mouse output using a button trigger. For example pulling L2 enables gyro motion to mouse output. It works really well but only in games that can have mouse and pad active at the same time. On a side note, every youtube video should have a cat intermezzo!

[@chriiis125]

been a fan of this channel for about a year after i saw the steam controller video and it also got me into gyro aim w/ my ps5 controllers + steam. really awesome to see a dedicated vid on this topic as these controls are super under appreciated and not very supported by devs. anyone looking to get into this should read some of these top comments for other tips. especially checking if a game supports gamepad + mouse and keyboard. this is easiest to set up and gets you analog controls + perfect gyro + rumble, which is just awesome. the real game changer is a game that supports steam input api, like days gone. w/ action layers you can get full analog brakes + gas on bike but when on foot the left trigger can be used to set up gyro aim. on polling rates the ps5 controller can be "overclocked" when plugged in for even more response when playing at ultra high fps. there's youtube tutorials on it. one last thing to mention when comparing controllers is rumble, if you plan to use it. ps4 gyro is heavily affected by rumble which ps5 is not.

[@migsalas5464]

i am such a big fan of your content pls never stop

[@ComptonFalcon]

ReWASD is a godsend for mapping gyro or any other weird controller stuff you would want to do. It's a paid program but the ease of use and customizability is unmatched for only 7 bucks. They just incorporated flick stick in addition to all their other stick and gyro settings a few months ago

[@Mezurashii5]

I think their business model is reWASD's biggest downfall. 7 bucks for basic, 30 bucks for features that aren't clearly described (and would be especially confusing to people new to remappers in general) and are bizzarely priced. Just have one version, maybe a lite option. It almost scared me off the software completely because it's so weird that it looks like some sort of scam.

[@ComptonFalcon]

Yeah a lot of their language in general could stand to be clearer, they're already selling a product with lots of complicated features. It's a shame because they have such a useful program even outside of basic controller remapping stuff, like letting you pair PS3 controllers to windows without all the hassle of DS3Tool

[@josemenbh]

Really! reWASD is an unbeatable KBM remapping program. I bought the full version and I don't regret it because the level of depth and detail that we can achieve in configuring a controller, keyboard or mouse is impressive!

[@ganonpork301]

I would like to add for games like halo especially MCC it's much better to map the controller as kbm because the amount of aim assist makes it a dread to use with gyro infinite seem better in that regard and based off what nerrel said it seems valve fucked something up because most games do suffer from gyro drift on my ds4 worst being halo 3 and csgo at least the last time I tried

[@Eduardo-ig6qm]

I hate that developers don't add an option to toggle aim assist off. I tried setting my steam controller up as Full gamepad, since MCC allows you to remove the deadzone completely. Would've felt great if the game didn't lower my sensitivity to the ground whenever I glance at someone.

[@bland9876]

@@Eduardo-ig6qm I think Apex Legends let you turn off the aim assist and it warns you before doing so.

[@thefoxman88]

Splatoon 2 player here... This video was a great guide. I just right into joyshock ages ago and missed the normal steam setting. This filled in so many knowledge gaps!

[@ZereWasTaken]

This is an amazing video, full of great info, but the best part is the cat break. Those green eyes, such a pretty and cute catte