Halo Infinite Releasing Unfinished (But Still Exciting)

[@fgdubz4309]

I'm bummed out but if the multiplayer is tons of fun with loads of content at launch, that's all that matters. And by content, I mean armor, game modes, weapons, maps, etc. I'm still hyped for Infinite!

[@rock3793]

Freemium

[@davemccombs]

You're going to be so disappointed, lol.

[@ParagonGoetia]

@@rock3793 Telurium

[@chiefkaha5650]

@@davemccombs Yup, don’t be hyped for it, you’ll be disappointed

[@chrisandrews9856]

The fact that your second clip for level editing was Timesplitters 2 cuts deep Mr Token, I spent so much time there all those years ago and I was drawing my own maps for Halo before Forge was even a figment of our imagination. Always a pleasure to watch your stuff, much love.

[@davemccombs]

How else ya gonna play versus 15 Monkey with chainguns :) Freaking LOVE Timesplitters

[@existentialselkath1264]

If it launches a buggy mess, then I won't be happy. But I don't mind a few missing features at launch is everything that does exist works properly

[@davemccombs]

You're part of the reason our games suck nowadays, thanks

[@existentialselkath1264]

@@davemccombs uhhh, and why is that? I've never spent any money on microtransactions, I never preorder, I always wait to check if a game is good before I get it... But because I care more about a game being fun than having the most features on paper, I'm the problem? 343 deciding to delay a few features rather than an entire game isn't objectively bad (like launching a broken game). You might think it's a problem, and you're entitled to your own opinion, but for some people it might seem like the best option. Either way, don't tell me I'm part of the problem because I have no patience for crappy companies like EA, Activision, and Ubisoft. And if halo infinite launches in a terrible state, I'll be the first to complain and I won't buy it until it gets fixed

[@macho8240]

@@davemccombs Oh well.

[@ParagonGoetia]

@@existentialselkath1264 Well he's looking for attention, the best thing to do is to ignore him so he can go cry somewhere else.

[@gojizard704]

@@ParagonGoetia dude this is the fuckin internet everywhere you go youll see jagoffs like this you cant escape and it sucks for me because they arr harassing me for liking halo infinite

[@yancylake2019]

8:02 @Same Token, I may be late but CONGRATULATIONS on the marriage! May you two have wonderful years ahead of you. 🥳😊

[@afterhours1989]

I don't like the delays of Forge and Coop Campaign, but I'm still very excited for the game and glad I'll be able to play it this year. Halo Infinite's campaign seems to be much more ambitious and expansive due to the change in structure with a more open game world. I also think the problems of development during a pandemic should not be underestimated. Especially creative work on complex AAA productions is likely to be significantly more time-consuming and challenging due to the more difficult communication.

[@davemccombs]

It's not "ambitious" or "expansive." It is going to be a big, empty, spacey mess like FF15. You guys fell for 343's marketing again. They sold you less and told you it was more. You fell for it.

[@aidan7368]

@@davemccombs Don't ever be alone.

[@davemccombs]

@@aidan7368 Dunno what that means and it's almost certainly off-topic, but yeah, sure, I'll go along with it. What he said, guys.

[@christopherortega]

There should be no co op in an open world

[@EnclaveGeneral]

While I've been pretty hard on Infinite in terms of negativity regarding it's launch, I do agree fully in that it's still exciting to be just a few months away from the first new Halo experience in over half a decade. Though, I still do feel particularly bummed about co-op. I had planned to surprised my friends and give them all copies of the campaign on PC so we could all experience it for the first time together. The fact that those plans have had to be thrown out the window is particularly painful, especially after we had just gone through the entirety of the MCC on Legendary together a couple months ago to get ready for Infinite.

[@Creed5.56]

Long time no see lol

[@chiefkaha5650]

Sucks doesn’t it, imagine if they had released halo infinite last year. How much shit would’ve been missing back than

[@SSStevie]

I'm the opposite, I had two groups of people that were wanting me to do a co-op run with them but I just didn't want to, I personally can't stand it cause I like to play at my own pace, so this couldn't of been any better, now I won't feel obligated to play in a group or choose one group over the other

[@chiefkaha5650]

@@SSStevie were you too scared to tell your friends no? Lol just tell them straight up like “nah cant be bothered bro” its not like youre going to hurt their feelings, even if you do, just shows how soft they are.

[@jaysonedson]

@@SSStevie You're glad you're getting less for your money(and so is everyone is) because you're afraid to say the word "no"? I'm glad I don't have as crap of friends as you must have if you can't tell them you'd rather play at your own pace.

[@Silverdogz]

On the Halo 5 Forge Delay, when it did come it was easily the best in the series.

[@UN_Banished]

Nah reach easily the best

[@ParagonGoetia]

@@UN_Banished I have to disagree on this, reach was better in all aspects except forge. Which funnily enough is the only thing that H5 was objectively good at.

[@peacelove6455]

@@ParagonGoetia Halo 5 multiplayer was way better than Reach.

[@ericstang0519]

@@peacelove6455 you’re on some crazy shit to say that

[@peacelove6455]

@@ericstang0519 Reach was a unbalanced mess.

[@atlfoevaeva09]

There’s more positive than negative. That’s all I care about. The delayed features are coming, with more new features at launch as well. I’m very excited no matter what. Nobody can distill my hype.

[@davidrafael1769]

overhyping yourself is never a good idea

[@argo9721]

@@davidrafael1769 ok

[@atlfoevaeva09]

@@davidrafael1769 I said “nobody can distill my hype” and yet you tried. Were it so easy. I’m be playing day one on my Halo Series X. 🥰

[@artyommelnikov3787]

@@atlfoevaeva09 Exactly 🤘🏾🤘🏾

[@davemccombs]

There is nowhere NEAR as many positives as negatives, lol. These 343 kids, I tell you. You guys will literally eat a turd and call it gourmet because your fragility can't handle admitting that Halo, and ESPECIALLY Infinite, is ass now. And dead on arrival.

[@Priception]

Halo Infinite is another example why I hate the "games as a service" model. (at least when it's planned to be that from the get go) If you look at the most successful "games as a service" games u get games like Minecraft, GTA 5, CSGO, Fortnite and to a lesser extent Smash Ultimate. What do those have in common? They weren't planned to be live service games. Games like CSGO, GTA 5 and Smash launched feature complete and when they became live service the new stuff was just extra. But with games that plan to be live service they always launch half baked because of the whole "we'll just add it later" attitude and it really annoys me. I already feel like an old man when I look back at the 7th gen where games launched feature complete.

[@atlfoevaeva09]

They also cost $60, you needed Xbox Live/PSN on top of that to play online, and you had to buy the newest map packs for $15+ (which hurt the game more than it helped as it split the player base). Not to mention, no cross play.

[@Priception]

@@atlfoevaeva09 Halo Infinite costs $60 for the Campaign at least. For the 7th gen only 360 charged for online. PC, PS3 and Wii were free. (PC is still free) Ok... And? A lot of map packs were really great. You realise you can just disable the map packs. I'll give you crossplay.

[@KnucklesWTD]

Still loads of games like that Xbox does not have the talent or care to produce them

[@ParagonGoetia]

@@KnucklesWTD Well, if only I could say that of all those Sonic Games. Of course there its just press 1 or 2 and hope its not as horrible as all those Wii era games, what was the name of the one of the rings?

[@Dedition]

Hey Token, just want to say that I *really* appreciate the quality of videos you pump out. Your editing is genuinely phenomenal. Your voice and bg music harmonise perfectly without either being overbearing, your edits are relevant to what you're saying, you know how to keep the pace and you also know when to stop rambling. All that in perfect 4k. You've quickly become one of my favourite content creators with your great content and nuanced takes. Thanks for the great work

[@illWillienumber31]

Waiting longer for coop is disappointing, but forgivable if the campaign is a great single player experience that's truly worth experiencing alone. It's the length of the wait for coop that's concerning.

[@chiefkaha5650]

I hope it’s not a campaign where you can clock it in a day or 2.

[@CommissarChaotic]

I'm shaking in my nonexistent boots at the thought of leading a massive UNSC army I saved and letting them just clash with any Banished force I encounter...

[@michaelkeaton5394]

It's kinda funny how since I've discovered this channel I start to hear more and more of the music token use in his video in my KZbin feed, as far as I can recall for me he was the first to use these music, I mean even veritasium as used it in his latest video...

[@carloscariasrodriguez]

I’ve been awaiting your upload for a while now, I always find myself re watching your videos especially the “Halo series so far” or whatever

[@DJWoozie]

They'll figure out after launch how much damage these roadmaps and delays is going to delay or even damage community growth. Without forge custom games sounds like it will be limited.

[@davemccombs]

Bingo. Yet look at all the fanboys "Wow, that means it'll be EVEN BETTER!"

[@argo9721]

@@davemccombs I mean the forge would be better but what he's saying is that it should be there at release

[@ParagonGoetia]

@@argo9721 I think the blind youtube critic channel lover that is Gnome is trying to say that his brain and soul cant handle the idea of people still playing Halo infinite after these news. Its the classic case of wanting something to flop so hard that they end up shooting themselves in the foot.

[@Dr.Oofers]

@@ParagonGoetia Yeah, you’re right.

[@KillerZxAce]

Yes, I don’t like that Campaign Co-Op is not there at launch. I was looking forward to play it with my brother. But solo Campaign is fine too. I don’t care about Forge. As long as the game looks good, plays good, has fun achievements, has no bugs and glitches and has a fun Warzone (Halo (5) Warzone, not a crappy Battle Royale) mode and Firefight I’m happy!

[@h0gheadS]

There won't be warzone or firefight at launch, and expecting them now is just setting yourself up for disappointment. You're getting a solo campaign, free to play multiplayer, and theater mode.

[@TheKotaCan]

Gross mismanagement the past couple of years means we get staple features we deserve at launch, given back to us months later as "cool new updates!".

[@multimediaaccount8110]

If campaign is amazing, I can wait for co op and forge, but it has to be longer than a 5 hour story with 8 missions to justify the lack of those 2 features (and the 60 EUR pricetag). I reaaaaaally enjoyed the multiplayer flight though. It felt like the good old Halo days :)

[@CommissarChaotic]

what i really want to do the thing where they say you can save and gather marines... i want to have hundredsss of marines and give them the best weapons...

[@tarabelle7716]

I just dont understand how features that have been in the franchise for 20 years are suddenly such a big ask.

[@Creed5.56]

Personally, the lack of coop at launch isn't a big deal to me. I enjoy playing HALO games for the first time by my self, alone, at night and just getting sucked into the experience as it was meant to be played. If there was no coop, at all ever, id be upset... but by the time it launches ill have played through the game one or 2 times and ill be ready to just dick around with a friend rather than take the story seriously. However, I do not feel like the camping should be $60. Let me explain. In halo Reach. At launch. In 2011. We got forge, theater, firefight, camping and multi-player. For a full $60. So, I feel like a story alone should be $30. Not $60. We are paying the same amount for 1/5 of the game but I do not expect it to be 1/5 the price.

[@MrSquidoid]

i dont get why people are upset at the sixty dollar campaign. no one remembers ODST which had NO mp and NO forge and it had the shortest campaign out of all the games

[@ParagonBourne]

I feel like people were mad about that tho

[@argo9721]

Actually people were mad about that as well

[@MrSquidoid]

@@ParagonBourne Ya people were mad at it i'm just annoyed no one mentions ODST when talking about the sixty dollar price tag

[@KnucklesWTD]

ODST came with with a halo 3 map pack worth $15 and still had firefight

[@ParagonGoetia]

@@KnucklesWTD A MP expansion for another game that you had to buy with $60 and firefight wasnt as stable as Id like to say it was. Then again the campaign tried a newer way to tell the story with a bigger section to explore, nothing like those other franchises that just make you pay for another game that could just as easily be DLC.

[@justiceburke6451]

It sucks re-watching this video 7 months after it came out and being almost 6 months post-launch. When you said "oh, they said forge won't be coming until season 3, so we'll have to wait HALF A YEAR for it," and then still being in season 1 after those six months. We still have to wait until season 3 for forge and there's no guarantee that season 2 will only be 3 months, so there's a chance we'll have to wait a full year after launch to get forge, and campaign co-op was delayed again until later into season 2 on top of that. I'm hopeful after season 2 drops, we'll get better, more frequent updates and get more stuff to do as the season progresses because as it stands, there's not much to do and not many people are playing it nearly as regularly :/

[@RicketyRocketyRoo]

and we just keep suffering

[@unidentifiedmale117]

Can't wait for more regular uploads, and It's good to here that things are going well for you behind the scenes. I really love your content

[@joshtaylor9773]

Click on video, hit Like button instantly because SameToken's voice is smoother than Chief's shiny metallic butt and I am instantly reminded that I'm about to watch a phenomenal video.

[@babdu4243]

I don't like the delays, especially coop. But when I think about it. Halo infinite has the same amount of content at launch, if not more than most games that are released. Most campaigns don't have coop

[@atlfoevaeva09]

Halo Infinite can be played for $10 on Xbox Game Pass. You don’t have to pay full price until/unless you feel like it’s worth the $60. Maybe that’s when Forge is added, maybe co-op. But there are more options to access a new Halo game than ever before and while that doesn’t make the delayed features sting less, it does mean the player can decide what’s worth their investment.

[@SameToken]

That’s a great point, game pass is a great way to try for a month especially as its on sale all the time!

[@atlfoevaeva09]

@@SameToken I’m excited for newcomers to join and see what’s so wonderful about my favorite franchise. Great video!

[@sasastevanovic7653]

Jesus christ are your videos relaxing, listening to your lore videos is basically an audiobook spa for nerves

[@pale_lad1252]

What is the music at the end? It sounds really nice.

[@suffolkpunch5109]

Always looking forward to token videos😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

[@UncleLayne]

Gotta be real, I don't exactly mind one way or the other that co-op isn't at the start. I very much prefer playing the story at least once on every difficulty by myself before I play with someone else

[@MIBxSpartan]

I know its petty but no Co-Op at launch makes me not even want to give this game a chance. Its tradition of every Halo that me and my friends play the Campagin together before touching the multiplayer. I cant express how uterlly crushing and extremely dissapointing this is. I would rather them delay the multiplayer rather then Co-Op. I just can't beleive this, its insane that this is acceptable in modern gaming.

[@argo9721]

They would if campaign co-op was a thing most games actually had

[@MIBxSpartan]

@@argo9721 The thing is though, this is Halo. Halo without Co-Op is like going Swimming without water.

[@argo9721]

@@MIBxSpartan Halo is not popular enough for people to get mad

[@זהסודי-ה7מ]

@@MIBxSpartan most people don't even know it's even a thing. The game will be fine without it

[@almostsapien]

Spilt screen is Halo. Glad you're back!

[@stevebutters306]

At launch? Fine. I can wait for coop, and Reach custom maps are still perfectly playable in the mean time.

[@davemccombs]

Reach custom maps also came with the game when it launched. Stop making excuses and being an apologist for a company that is piss-poor.

[@Dr.Oofers]

@@davemccombs 🧂

[@Toby_Kat]

I'm totally fine with games releasing without certain features on a couple of conditions-- First, that the dev is trustworthy and dedicated enough to add them in at _some_ point. Ideally sooner than later, but as long as it's got a good enough chance and then actually does get added in eventually... It's cool with me. And second, that the game's launch be advertised and viewed by all parties as an early access launch. I don't care if all I'm getting is a beta as long as it's frickin' advertised as such. Temper my expectations before I go in expecting polished completion. Be honest and transparent when you can, devs. I wanna prevent crunch and burnout, obviously, but I also wanna be able to play what exists in the game ASAP. The solution? Pre-"full launch" testing flights and benchmarking scenarios. If not public or a smaller pool selected from opt-in participants, then maybe to the inevitable pre-orders. Somebody needs to give you feedback on how things run, and why not send out a benchmarking demo as a pre-order bonus? Yooka-Laylee's Toy Box demo was a pretty awesome idea, as is the MCC's fighting thing. Devs can get offer early access and give people a solid taste of the full game. I'm so glad that demos are coming back :3

[@ElegantJames]

The fact that the campaign can't be replayed, no Co-Op, and no Forge. It disappointed me honestly to the point where I almost didn't play it, but, the campaign was just so good I'm not that upset anymore. It's in my top 3 favorite Halo games.

[@ChrisOfTheDead]

The question to ask anyone upset by the delays: Would you rather wait an extra 3-6 months to play any Infinite at all? Or would you rather get most of Infinite sooner, and wait 3-6 months to get supplementary features? I've heard some people say the main reason this is happening is that MS won't tolerate any delays. And I have no idea if the source is reliable, but if it means they can delay a feature to avoid crunch, I'm all for it. I say that, especially, as someone who has gone through crunch.

[@chiefkaha5650]

When did they start developing?

[@ultralibre]

the campaign not having coop makes sense its probably harder to implement with it being semi open world and has rpg elements

[@KatsuyaTheFuuk]

For me, I feel like I would be completely okay with another delay if it especially means getting Forge at launch. Halo 5 without Forge for those two months felt... empty. I can't imagine that for half a year. I am still excited and optimistic, but this is a huge blow. It's also another Halo game that won't have all of it's core features preserved through physical media since Forge and co-op campaign won't be there. At least it's not like Halo 5 where besides campaign it's unplayable offline with no updates. Since we have split screen multiplayer at launch, basic custom games is at least safe. But yeah (That is if the physical disc isn't only for Campaign content which I hope it's the full package)

[@shadowninja1275]

Even though we have to wait for Forge and Split Screen Co-op in the coming months, I'm still excited for this game. Hey, I'm patient, i can't wait. 😄😄😄

[@זהסודי-ה7מ]

We have to wait for campaign co-op, multiplayer co-op and splitscreen are coming day 1

[@socks2441]

9:45 the small subset is definitely frustrated. "splitscreen will be included in all future halo games" a quote from the devs years back. clearly that left a nice loophole for them as they didnt 'specifically' state whether that included pc or not. but i personally think that 'all future halo games' definitely include halo infinite on pc. i mean, it damn near includes halo mcc. the way they wiggled their way out of that one was by saying the games were not 'technically' new halo games, just new ports/ remasters of old halo games. but from where i am sitting there is no concrete excuse now. no wiggle room. give us pc players splitscreen on pc. please. at least on infinite even if not on mcc.

[@scabash]

Great video Token! Stella quality as always

[@PackHunter117]

Halo 4 was the last FPS Halo game that had all features at launch except for Campaign Theater unfortunately. So in that sense Reach was the last game with everything at launch

[@kingabrahm8995]

Halo becoming a service is the best thing that could happen to it, imagine how much campaign content we'll get over the next ten years. "Introducing halo to my girlfriend, who is now my wife" best line of all of your videos so far that is so cool dude so happy for y'all. Glad to hear about your positive changes in your life, but even more excited to hear more frequent videos and new exciting plans for the channel. Only a few more months til infinite!

[@BT-3025]

Honestly man, though I'm disappointed in the lack of those two features, I'm just glad they told us in advance what content to expect. It's pretty evident that the devs didn't want to delay it again either, and honestly I'd prefer if they took their time to give us a polished product that works instead of an alpha test.

[@samtheslam4]

Thank you for sharing your perspective on the recent news. A lot of people have been quick to jump on the negative bandwagon, but your neural/hopeful point of view is refreshing. Looking forward to your future videos!

[@jadoyon]

Everyone remember how the game is already in a YEAR delay. And they still couldn't get it together. I would not put it past them to delay it in order to try and sell more copies. Since Multiplayer is free to play they may be thinking that a certain number of people would play the campaign with friends and not purchase the while thing, so they are "delaying" it to try and get more people to buy.

[@supapoopatroopa6882]

The thing with games is their scope keeps getting bigger but their time stays the same. We want bigger and prettier games all the time but don’t seem to get that the bigger things get the more time they need companies and community expose deadlines that would have been fair years ago but are now just not long enough leading to the releases of unfinished games

[@Furmius]

Forge missing is a bummer but still 100% hyped cuz multiplayer and campaign looks insane

[@zaffy3b5]

I love Ur vid matey please keep the chilled and epic vid also I totally agree with what u say about the campaign I hoping 343 have made a epic story that eryone love not just old school halo player like me who have loved and played every halo game

[@TheRealAmericanMan]

At least this hopefully means the full campaign will be on the disc and fully playable years from now

[@A-239]

The premise of "live service" was meant to add ADDITIONAL content after delivering a solid foundation, to sustain player engagement and a stream of revenue for the publisher. Now "live service" has become an excuse and a safety net for mismanaged projects, to have the audacity to sell full priced games missing core/expected features or filled with bugs, resembling more early access products. It is so sad that Xbox's poster child and biggest IP (aside from Minecraft) has become victim of the live service curse. Halo 5 had to rely on patches (touted as DLC) to resemble a full Halo experience, not really adding new stuff, but instead completing the missing features at launch. I guess lessons weren't learned at 343, and here we are, repeating the same mistakes again. Now we have a "campaign only edition" missing features, sold at the equivalent of $75 USD (where I live). And a free to play multiplayer with some mixed opinions on its monetization, and the content of it remains to be known if it is feature complete (playlists, modes, social features). I hope that 343 can pull off a story similar to Halo 2's development. A mismanagement and directionless nightmare, but ending up delivering a fantastic experiemce. But with all the news and 343's track record, i really doubt it.

[@Hotomato]

I feel like there are two types of games being unfinished at launch. There are games that technically have all of the features that were promised, but those features are buggy or don’t work properly. On the other hand you have games like halo infinite, which isn’t releasing with every single thing that was promised, but what is there is fully functional and polished, with the features not included at launch being on the way. Obviously neither of these are desirable, but I’d much rather have delayed features that are eventually good, rather than a bunch of features that don’t work.

[@ctwarboss6913]

Wait Joe Staten is head of creative? Wow good to know a real vet is in a good position of power

[@SilverViper1000]

Love your content and your voice!!! Wtf, why aren't you localising games or synchronizing documentations?? Really, you should do it! Your voice is a pleasure for my ears and Im sure I'm not alone with this opinion

[@jammydevil8408]

I hope that they take there time in forge and do a great job however, I believe that 343 can take forge a step further by adding enemy ai ( I know they are doing this in multiplayer) such as grunts, where you can customise their difficulty, weapons and overall appearance. With this amount of freedom, players can finally make their own levels of custom fire fights in custom worlds so that the player can make their own level.

[@Bioshockaholic]

Let us not forget halo 5 launch with like 4 multiplayer modes, on top of no forge.

[@d.a1882]

I don’t care about Forge and campaign Coop, I want to play halo infinite this December instead of having another delay, and I’m grateful with 343 for that

[@SofaKingW3ird]

I would have loved to experience the campaign with a friend instead of trying to talk to each other about it without spoiling things. Especially when the rocket launcher brute blew himself up after my friend had a grueling session of trying to beat that mission.

[@lenfarag1999]

A lot of people dont realised that making games is hard. There is no pressing a button to add a feature to your game. Just because games had a feature before, doesn't mean it's just as simple to implement, it's not. Halo Infinite is a different game to Halo 2/Halo 3, it has a different engine, works completely different under the hood to accommodate all of the new features. It's not as simple as copy/pasting stuff over. It takes time and a lot of planning. Throwing money at the problem doesn't speed it up, only time can make the difference. (Source: I am a game developer)

[@machina5]

Sucks to hear about the delay. See you guys when the game launches in March.

[@Eternal_Archgod]

Ppl are blowing this out of perspective. They asked for a bigger better campaign and forge yet complain when it's not ready for lunch. Specifically asked for them to not rush but complain that it's taking too long. You wanted the game to be polished so let them. It takes a lot to design these games and it takes time. Sure it's been 6 years but over that time span a lot has happened.

[@Dr.Oofers]

3 years from what I’ve been told. 3 years to make the engine, 3 years of actual development. So yeah.

[@curiouscaboodle8607]

Man I was legit trying to play through the campaign along side my brother and cousins , I'm still disappointed

[@loschen4073]

at least they know and say it’s unfinished and not acting like: „Do yOu GuYs dONt haVe a oWn xBOx?“ like blizzard would 😅

[@A-239]

What does releasing an unfinished game have to do with releasing a mobile game from an old franchise? Your comment doesn't make sense. Both 343 and ActiBlizz are manipulative and liars.

[@davemccombs]

@@EggEnjoyer Exactly. 343 kids are the biggest laughingstock on the entirety of the gaming internet. It's honestly reduced to "UGH DADDY PUNISHED ME THE BEST YES DADDY REMOVE MORE FEATURES DADDY THIS WALLET IS YOURS" in my mind

[@xopasstheaux6617]

@@davemccombs I didn't play 5 and have played and enjoyed previous bungie halos but you senile bungie bootlickers gotta chill. Halo 4 is the last halo I played and I highly enjoyed it despite some issues. Looking forward to infinite from what I've seen so far it looks fun as hell, I don't play coop and I'll wait on forge anyway.

[@fzang6416]

Just when I was thinking where are you :)

[@Asas_TV]

Personally don't mind Forge not being there are launch since i've always seen Forge as a extra rather than a main part of halo but Coop is a completely different story; Coop has been in every mainline halo game so not including Coop makes me worried and skeptical on the quality of the campaign especially since it's a full price game as well. Since these features are at minimum 3 - 6 months away after launch, they have to make sure customs browser is in and in a fully functioning state or their reputation will be dragged through the mud again...

[@FrumbleFoot7029]

Lack of Forge hurts me way worse. Great job putting this one together.

[@pdbouie]

Watching this three years after.....oh the humanity, how bad 343 let us all down. To hear the eagerness and the desire for a great game. We should've taken the missing features as a sign of what was to come.......for shame 343 for shame!

[@Iamwolf134]

Disappointed as I am about a lack of forge and co-op, I'd rather have a good feature delayed, than an unrefined feature rushed.

[@mirkwoodphotography2089]

I really do hope that co-op will be available at launch

[@brettphillips5267]

Should be glad it still coming in after launch, as Joseph did state a live service game in not totally complete. As like for good games for example that still be play to this day, GTA V that game been out for nearly a decade but the GTA online side still get brand new content every single year in like every few months. Destiny 2, Halo MCC is kinda like a live service somewhat as we are getting like new seasons and new content every couple months, halo 5 was slightly a little bit as well of live service game as forge was not in it at launch. Theres other games That I know that tons of other games that does this type of route specially if they are holding the core mode back to polish up but release the game still and would more likely add in as there priority after launch. But can't wait to try out the next halo infinite flight on sept. 24, and can't wait for the game to release in december.

[@tinobrown1780]

A full single player campaign, and a full competitive multiplayer at launch is complete enough. Those other features can wait, as they are not essential to the majority of players.

[@Chewbarka]

It’s been too long!! Please do more vids, you’re at the best at covering Halo content

[@Fly6lights]

Like real talk it’s only 3 months for co-Op, it be a slight bummer? Yeah, but that’s not that long. As we can see We still have the great multiplayer and a more personal Campaign to dig into.

[@Splooth_Sleeping_Battery]

I'll play multiplayer, but will mute any mention of halo (spoilers) within my socials and just wait for coop.

[@DILLYBAR31869]

All I can say is, look at what the MCC has become. If 343 can add in Co-OP, and Forge in later, then I have no worries.

[@nikobelliccringepolice9317]

Okey but Atleast there not releasing the mods broken unlike most games give them props to spending more time making sure the game isn’t broken

[@GhostLink92]

If the argument for co-op is that the overall structure of Campaign, being open world, and mission based, affects it, then I would point to Destiny. Co-op works just fine in Destiny 1 and 2. Hell, they even brought back Joseph, from Bungie, to get the game back on track.

[@monke8718]

I feel the delay of forge and co-op could be good for the game, possibly infusing life into the game after the hype has died down, keeping the game feeling fun and fresh long after the initial release

[@117swordsmen]

Loving the videos and happy for your positive life change. Throw some more vids our way when youre ready.

[@passionatetechnology8306]

It’s alright, I’ll just buy halo infinite next December in 2022 when halo has its act together.

[@adawgnamedcat]

You can’t say a games release feels incomplete when you literally haven’t played it and it hasn’t released lol

[@Andrew24427]

Awesome dude I can’t wait to see what videos you post next I love your content

[@emile-a239haloreach2]

My friend is already upset because she nearly took time off from work on November 15th to get the game now she has to wait for December 8th

[@sidrolf]

Just buy the game when it has the features you want!

[@ZonoYT]

I'm just gonna play the game on gamepass, there's no way I'll be paying full price for a game so incomplete

[@argo9721]

yeah like if you think the game is incomplete why not just get it on game pass so you're not paying $60

[@FIaTH714]

"A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad" Delaying a huge feature like co-op absolutely blows my mind, it's one of the first things I think about when you say Halo. Infinite looks great and the beta was fun, but the growing trend of features missing on release in games, with promises of delivering them "in the future", worries me with where the industry is going heading forward

[@KnucklesWTD]

fake quote

[@macho8240]

@@KnucklesWTD Lmao ok. Enjoy your unfinished broken games at launch

[@KnucklesWTD]

@@macho8240 I don’t buy Microsoft games so I don’t have that problem. Delaying a game doesn’t automatically make it good.

[@ParagonGoetia]

@@macho8240 This guy buys those Wii era Sonic games, he is passed the point of salvation. If anything I think he's scared Halo infinite will succed and make his fellow blue fluffy spike ball go more to the back burner.

[@Dr.Oofers]

@@KnucklesWTD Agreed. Delaying and granting massive funding for a game doesn’t guarantee quality without competent directors.

[@otherZinc]

I'm not disappointed at all. At lesst we're getting the game this year, unlike Sony Releasing Nothing this winter.

[@screamat333am7]

If you don’t wanna play halo without co op then just wait 3 months after release to buy it. If you don’t wanna play halo without forge then just wait 6 months after release to buy it. But you wont do it because you will succumb !!!

[@YUURRRRRofficial]

Pay 100% of your money. Shud get 100% of the game.

[@krisgordon3116]

If this is true, you hope Bungie DOESNT follow the Evil Arts example and does 2 of 3 things 1)Keeps working at it to complete the product without dropping quality control standards 2) If the game isn't finished, drop the initial price of the game and get the rest back by charging th balance for Forge and Co-op (Without Jacking prices up!) 3) Charges the same price as if the game was a finished product and then automatically gives you the missing modes for NO extra charge when Co-op and Forge are finished. Basically, DON'T MILK THIS SCREW-UP FOR CASH!!!!!

[@iplz]

Didn't they commission out forge in halo 5

[@michaelkeaton5394]

Great video

[@denlimwolf]

I think this might be a popular opinion, but seeing as they've delayed the game as much as they have, I wouldn't mind them delaying the game. But then again, it would be nice to actually play it.

[@ultralibre]

it sucks for people that use forge and play campaign with friends but for me I don't really use forge and I play the campaign solo usually

[@WhopyStompy]

Definitely bummed that I won't be able to pull the ritual of staying up late with my bro and cracking out on the campaign at launch. And the price tag....well, we could be PS5 users and paying $70 for it? I know that doesn't make it better. At this point, I'm just ready to play a new Halo game and see where the story goes. I'll no doubt play through it again with my brother when co-op is implemented. But at this point, I have no more patience to wait. If a delay was on the horizon, I'd had no choice but to wait. TL;DR: I'm buying it day one. Don't care and I'm tired of waiting.

[@litiangparra6799]

I have no problems with them being delayed, I mean yeah it sucks, cause i love when I play with my friends and family on halo, but hey ive waited too long for this game to come out, I think its about time for this game to come out.

[@socks2441]

no co op, no forge, no crossplay. but most importantly no splitscreen on pc. all of those things are deal breakers for me. so i will wait for them. gonna be at least 6 months after release or so i hear. and maybe (probably) never for pc splitscreen. too bad. they aint getting my money if they dont deliver a full halo product on pc. other microsoft studios games have splitscreen on pc (gears of war). i dont know how they can possibly excuse not having it in a halo game. splitscreen has always been the essence of halo for me and a lot of other fans that have been here since halo: combat evolved on the original xbox. there is literally no gaming experience better than sharing a couch and a game with your mates. online pales by comparison. online has no heart. its a soul-less place.

[@timelordmagnums357]

Actually the issue is that they are trying to please way too many people. They should have kept this on certain consoles and pc only. Let's face it, it's time to kick out the old 486 and xbox's and start buying new equipment to run their engine. Technology progresses and at some point you have to progress with it or you are left behind. Enough cutting corners so everyone is pleased. Another option is they sell the campaign for 40 and add ten more for forge and ten more for coop. That way you get what you are paying for. You can't please everyone all the time and not hurt quality.

[@Dr.Oofers]

To be honest, due to scalpers they *have* to make the game for last gen. Can’t really fault them.

[@gabethebabe3337]

No Forge means limited custom games. Let that sink in.

[@derpwords2429]

Well this sucks. I've played every halo campaign in co-op with the same friend since halo 2... imma have to wait 5 months to play the campaign.

[@tomverstappendrums3423]

I just hope the singleplayer is amazing that's it. Coop later is fine in that case