Steak & Butter Gal Gaslights Veganism - Middle Ground Debate

[@LiftingVeganLogic]

Thanks for showing my video Ryan!

[@PawshGardener]

Keep up the great content! Can't wait to read your book! ❤

[@timothys9288]

Thank you for writing your book "Debunking Every Argument Against Veganism". I think it should be a book that every kid in high school should be forced to read.

[@WiseandVegan]

Thanks for exposing her lies! The Connections (2021) [short documentary] ❤

[@subwayfacemelt4325]

How do you supplement? What do vegans normally miss out on? And I thought fermented foods were the typical solution for B12 deficient vegans?

[@stephaniejean7324]

I didn’t even think the prompts from Jubilee were that great to begin with. I noticed that the non-vegans were really only relating veganism with health/diet/nutrition and the vegans were strictly focused on the liberation, non violence, and basic rights of animals. I cannot stand the amount of arguments against veganism when the people arguing against it don’t even know what it means. Anyway, hopefully they cast for a pt 2 and make sure the focus is on the real philosophy of veganism ✌🏻

[@snaxximan5737]

If you want to sacrifice your own health because of your morals thats fine. I have no respect for vegans who claim that its healthy or good for the environment.

[@SSS208-s]

@@snaxximan5737sacrifice your health?

[@stephaniejean7324]

@@snaxximan5737 What makes you think it’s not healthy or good for the environment?

[@snaxximan5737]

@@stephaniejean7324 Its hard for me to answer because most of my comments are getting deleted. Can you give me 1 reason why you think its healthy and 1 reason why its good for the environment? I will comment on those specifically.

[@someguy2135]

Too many people who stopped eating a fully plant-based diet tried to eat a raw food version and blamed veganism when they failed

[@bryant475]

It's definitely possible to do raw food WFPB and be super healthy (especially with the inclusion of beans, tofu,etc.), but the more extreme version is fruitarians.

[@sid-d4w]

Or just didn't eat enough calories or ate a processed vegan junk food diet and blamed veganism

[@Changeling9au]

@@bryant475 Beans and tofu are cooked/processed (most beans, anyway). Biologically, we're a frugivorous species. We clearly aren't equipped to hunt/kill/devour animals without the aid of fire and technology. However, much the same can be said about grains, (most) beans, highly starchy vegetables (and fruits such as eggplant). The mistakes that many "raw vegans" make include eating *only* fruit (frugivorous includes leafy greens, and some nuts and seeds), not drinking enough water, eating too many "treats" such as excessive consumption of nut butters, not eating enough, among other errors well known and spoken about by knowledgeable natural hygienists such as TheRawKey. I'm currently in the process of transitioning to the natural hygiene diet. However, one thing I can say for certain: If I find myself failing on it, I will not be using that as an excuse to go back to abusing animals!

[@letsgocarni1572]

Dingdingding...first round of the "who has the best vegan diet" has begun!!! Who shall come on top? Will it be the plant-based ones? Or the raw vegan ones? Or shall it be the fruitarians?

[@sid-d4w]

Veganism aint cheap? It's as inexpensive or expensive as you want it to be.

[@infinityblablabla]

Animal based foods are actually extremely expensive but are heavily subsidised by the government. Even if one tries to make plant based food diet as luxurious as possible it would not catch up to actual cost of meat and dairy.

[@baum7des7lebens7]

She used to have stage fright. Now she has starch fright.

[@merkamark]

White shirt girl is so condescending and confidently wrong.

[@RiDankulous]

She’s just a con artist fleecing the ignorant she knows full well the truth.

[@sid-d4w]

Also given that its vegans that are always called cult members, she actually looks like one!

[@JohnDoe-s3v2v]

"All the confidence of error", in Oscar Wilde's phrase.

[@keviiiboo7460]

There were two white shirt girls though 😂

[@TruthSeeker-rn1tm]

Not a single microcosm of evidence presented.

[@ThatVeganTeacherYouTube]

Thanks for being an ethical vegan and for defending the innocent so consistently.

[@TruthSeeker-rn1tm]

Words, words. What is the meaning?

[@nzshoreboy]

Whenever I see interviews with people promoting a carnivore diet, I get the same feeling as when I watch a flat earthier trying to convince others that they have been fooled and we are on a flat earth. The mental gymnastics required to believe that a meat based diet of any stripe is the healthiest option is impressive for all the wrong reasons.

[@JasonNoto]

conflating the "carnivore diet" with a level stationary earth plane of existence doesn't really have anything to do with one another actually, in fact a level stationary earth is much more authentic than a "carnivore diet"

[@stophoaxing345]

Earth is flat and motionless.

[@snaxximan5737]

Carnivore is the natural way of eating. Unless you want to deny evolution. Then may god be with you. Actually may he be with you regardless of your beliefs.

[@TruthSeeker-rn1tm]

@@snaxximan5737 Great comment.

[@deemo5245]

It’s a religious argument to say animals were made for people to eat. Arrogance.

[@snaxximan5737]

actually we ate animals before we invented religion.

[@deemo5245]

@ this is a semi gaslight answer. First off, you have no idea. Second define every word in my statement or it’s just a gaslight. Like when did we become ‘humans’ and if those creatures ate much meat at all. Also religion may have been one of the first things humans invented, not your religion of course, our religions suck. So, I do not accept your flippant response as dogma. 😝 And I said ‘religious’, not ‘of a religion’. I feel like I overkilled your throw away thought though.

[@TruthSeeker-rn1tm]

Evidence?

[@your-username-here2308]

Atleats religious People can tell where there Moral comes from.

[@yabbamita]

Such is the entitlement that plagues this generation.

[@aaronmerkel5216]

lady thinks pasta and veggies are for the privileged. lol

[@madnezz1961]

Butter Girl shared her blood tests, and they were horrible and a "carnivore" doctor said they were great

[@Dieblauesau]

🤣

[@snaxximan5737]

What exactly was horrible about them?

[@infinityblablabla]

@@snaxximan5737 very high LDL cholesterol, to name a few.

[@snaxximan5737]

@@infinityblablabla very high LDL is not a problem though? even vegan doctors arent spreading this misinformation anymore and they moved on to the next wrong thing which is apob.

[@your-username-here2308]

@@infinityblablabla cholesterol is not bad lol.

[@gabrieltremblay2423]

I eat vegan as heterosexual man and i have more strength and stamina than the most of the people. I can see when i go to the gym and compare with others around. It's a fact

[@trinivegan7649]

I almost sent this to you. I watched the entire thing today. But I saw it was 2 days old and said, nah, he already saw it 😂😂

[@rebeccabrooks3823]

Her surprised pikachu face @9:04 😂

[@Human_Herbivore]

Feeding and sheltering animals is the same argument that was used against the abolition of slavery.

[@snaxximan5737]

did you just call slaves animals?

[@Human_Herbivore]

@snaxximan5737 clearly I didn't.

[@mjs28s]

Great commentary!

[@narrgamedesigner2747]

Anyone will say anything to blame veganism, i guess.

[@yabbamita]

It's all copium and projection.

[@dianafalletta2635]

No I’m not sure I got a bloodwork done a year and a half ago my B12,was high lol😅. So I eat everything vegan. Fries beans spinach dark chocolate, vegan cheesecake, noodles, pasta with eggplants,chopped suey veggies, Middle East vegan best . It’s so delicious everyone in my family loves it even non vegan. Peace on Christmas

[@borisbojic]

That Torre Washington, an awesome and super strong vegan athlete, is being in this “discussion” is enough to prove them all wrong … 😅😂 but they seem to ignore that 🤪

[@snaxximan5737]

Torre Washington is blasting steroids. Just like every single ifbb pro. Whats your point? That steroids are so advanced that you can be a pro with a bad diet?

[@snoopyflick9519]

Processed vegan food can be expensive, but if you're eating unprepared food you can easily make it cheap.

[@wraithofsolidarity]

So many lies. My poor head.

[@rasin9391]

for example?

[@SuperleclercY]

As a 46yo man, I've never had a period and didn't eat meat in 20 years... should I be worried ?

[@TruthSeeker-rn1tm]

Yes.

[@doots2843]

You should talk to a doctor or a nutritionist instead of random biased people online

[@cropcircle5693]

Damn, Ryan's dropping bars from Eminem? Shit got real. Ill be over here with a beer and a plate of Oreos.

[@GS-lq2is]

Omg, it's one thing for a basic omnivore to think veganism is expensive because they're thinking about vegan meat/dairy alternatives, but for a carnivore dieter??? Who literally only eats meat, dairy and eggs? And usually "high quality" grass fed, organic, etc. meat? That crap is the most expensive s&9t out there!

[@TruthSeeker-rn1tm]

And what does that tell you?

[@yusmiffins]

I lost my period as an omnivore. Why? I was anorexic! Does an omnivore diet lead to this!?

[@HappyHealthyVegan]

exactly. also sorry you went thru that.

[@yusmiffins]

@@HappyHealthyVegan thank you, i'm doing very well now! going vegan actually helped me a lot as i learned to cook and gain a new love for food :)

[@metalguru5226]

Thanks for this great video Ryan.

[@Mark-jt3fu]

"I think this person's name is steak and butter gal or something like that...". Come on, Brian, that's cringey even coming from you.😂😂😂

[@darkangelprincess101]

Normally i watch all jubilee videos but when this one came out i decided not to because i already knew it would frustrate me

[@snaxximan5737]

because you live in a bubble and you hate having your own opinion challenged. thats fine. most people do that.

[@darkangelprincess101]

@snaxximan5737 🤣🤣🤣. Or because I've been on social media long enough to know how these kind of conversations go and the idiotic things that's going to be said

[@stacies89]

@@darkangelprincess101 it was frustrating, lol. And I almost didn’t watch it because I assumed jubilee would have gathered the most ill- informed vegans out there to represent us but I was very impressed with all of them! They definitely made it worth the watch 💚

[@michaelbrodie5942]

I would hypothesis she had anxiety caused by a severe b12 deficiency, not stage fright though that could be a factor

[@JRawRose]

Ryan, you are too Ignorant to evaluate what Wrangham is saying about Raw Food. I've tried to enlighten you on this subject, but you keep deleting my comments. So if you are sincere about helping people, stop deleting my comments.

[@JRawRose]

"No man is clever enough to know all the evil he does." -Francois De La Rochefoucauld (1630 - 80): Maxims 1665

[@JRawRose]

Here is my comment on that Study that Wranham used back when I read it ~19 years ago: JR Comment on 10-6-05: These people do not understand that hemorrhaging is not healthy and that there is a difference between ovulating and menstruating. Just because most women bleed does not mean they are supposed to. In other words, it is possible to ovulate and not to menstruate. Interestingly, most women who do stop bleeding do so because they are unhealthy and are not ovulating because their body fat % has dropped below 12%. This is where these people are confused. Once again, it is possible to ovulate and not to menstruate.

[@Flopegi]

Love that I am getting an ad for Chik-fil-a on this video 🙃

[@OnesFan1]

I eat brown rice legumes and seeds all the time and all I have to do is boil them in the rice cooker… amazing technology perfect to leave animals alone

[@shawns4354]

They like to believe they eat only "ethical" meat. Yet you know they be smackin down on those McRibs. Freaking hypocrites!

[@serogozin]

love your content!

[@Мария-н9п7р]

It's really sad that vegans told her that's it's okay to not have periods

[@TheLoyalpain]

I've never heard any vegans say that

[@victoranderson1]

@HappyHeathyVegan. Can you let people know that PlantBased diet & Vegan Lifestyle are 2 different things. When it's stated as Vegan Diet, it gets confusing for a lot of people. I always refer to Plant based food as a PlantBased Diet and Veganism as a Vegan Lifestyle against animal exploitation.

[@ledruidedu62-fr]

Anxiety can also occur due to a lack of hydration, drinking plenty of water is important, the caloric deficit can also generate anxiety. Many fake vegans say they have had health problems while I am convinced that many left veganism out of weakness and lack of ethics, they simply wanted to eat meat again and therefore find all the unimaginable excuses to blame veganism. But the cause of all their worries has absolutely nothing to do with diet. They may have given in to social pressure.

[@jayfriday9485]

I tried to watch the jubilee video, but I became repulsed when one of the meat eaters claimed to be a raw carnivore 🤢

[@drstrangelove85]

It's been some time that I've been to the US but when I was there the last time, fresh food in the super market was more expensive than fast food. It blew my mind. I guess for the US she has a point. For Europe, where I live, it's the opposite and the argument made on this channel is correct.

[@jdw0426]

Peasant food is sooo expensive

[@thorham1346]

🙄

[@lystermyke8787]

If they commented on me about an anecdotal claim on how many people feeling good on carnivore diet, I'm gonna used Jeanne Calment as a example on how anecdotes are not reliable and it worked everytime.

[@HexproofAnarchist]

Being "nourished" by animal sacrifice when other options are readily available is just wrong.

[@snaxximan5737]

Sadly the other options are not "nourishing" for humans. Cant deny evolution.

[@HexproofAnarchist]

@snaxximan5737 They are though. Nutrition science confirmed 👌 Vegans aren't the ones denying science.

[@TruthSeeker-rn1tm]

An argument of substance perchance? Or just a baseless opinion?

[@st.fiacre6685]

Loaded question, a better question would be' Have specific animals been bred over the millennia to be eaten in a symbiotic cycle, Yes or No?'

[@subwayfacemelt4325]

Touche!

[@jdw0426]

Symbiotic implies consensual and mutually beneficial

[@GhostGamblingFan]

Steak and butter changed my life to the better. Eating vegan made me sick. I made my choice and I am happy with it.

[@TruthSeeker-rn1tm]

I'm pleased to hear that.

[@gabrieltremblay2423]

So for you vegan mean process sugar ?

[@sethhoyt2202]

Hell yeah man! Keep it up

[@mikesgameclips]

This would have been a great opportunity to watch the full video and commentate.

[@DOUBYHAMMS]

Just curious can vegans use a thermometer or digital probes you know the devices typically used by carnivores ❓️👍👀

[@Мария-н9п7р]

Do you have a healthy BMl?

[@Мария-н9п7р]

@syrahsmythe no, person who read this comment

[@TheLoyalpain]

Yes

[@pdude1911]

You are a hero, Ryan. Vegan for the animals for life. Salute from Holland 😊❤

[@itsmejenmarie]

Hello everyone 😸👋

[@ScotRossillo]

Vegan food is very, very cheap!!

[@TruthSeeker-rn1tm]

What does that tell you?

[@HopeMichelle.YouTube]

Wow. I have followed her for a while. I do not like her tactics here at all. I have ate both ways.

[@NewEnglandInSeattle]

You don't kill something you love. I'm not sure who I heard ask this question first, but I always ask it and still, in 6 years of being vegan, haven't gotten a real answer: "What's the moral justification for killing something that doesn't want to die if it's not necessary?" You know, as I get older, I have less and less tolerance for stupidity. We all know that a carnivore diet is going to lead to a cardiovascular event and poor metabolic health. When I first went plant based, I tried to educate people I knew but they just didn't want to hear it and they just continued to do what they did. After 6 years, I'm like, "You know what? Enjoy your heart attack or stroke. I don't' have the patience anymore." Does that make me a bad person? Maybe. But so is harming animals for nothing more than temporary taste pleasure.

[@snaxximan5737]

Your question is misleading. You already assume that its not necessary. Thats false from the get go. Humans are designed to consume animals. Thats just how evolution works. I could also ask you "Why does the brain have reduced functionality on a vegan diet?" Why wont you answer that question? Maybe because i put an assumption in it? You dont want an answer, you want to prove your own point.

[@ledruidedu62-fr]

Very fair, thank you to you

[@TruthSeeker-rn1tm]

That's literally what your ancestors ate. If they didn't you wouldn't be here buddy.

[@DamirĐorđević]

I love steak and butter gal

[@dj-fe4ck]

6:19 isn't that fast of a PR for a mile. My fastest is 3:49

[@michaelt8388]

BS. The world record is 3.43. Elite runners average between 4 and 5 min/mile. Average "Joe" is between 6 and 7 min/mile.

[@ΘάνατοςΧορτοφάγος]

3:49 min./km. Maybe

[@dj-fe4ck]

@michaelt8388 all elite male runners are under 4 minutes in the mile, or under 3:42 for 1500m.

[@snaxximan5737]

"Hicham El Guerrouj is the current men's record holder with his time of 3:43.13" So you are 6 seconds slower than the current world record and 15 seconds faster than the previous one? Your vegan diet must be working great!

[@dj-fe4ck]

@snaxximan5737 the previous world record was 3:44. That's 5 seconds slower than the previous world record, not 15 seconds faster.

[@kin.9133]

I saw the video on my feed and I actually just don't have the strength to watch it. I used to enjoy these jubilee videos, now I realize they're only interested in producing ragebait.

[@GMBL3R]

Stichwort du bist kein Arzt… mehr muss ich zu diesem video nicht sagen. extrem biased und hasserfüllt

[@ScotRossillo]

They need lots of therapy

[@sid-d4w]

Red dress robotic voice woman really has those politician hand gestures down. What shes saying mussssst beeeee trrrruuuuuuue 😵

[@TepcoCycleRepair]

I have eaten better meals with more variety, taste and style since going to a plant based diet. The amount of Vegan chefs sharing their incredible meals makes it so easy and definitely cheaper than meat. Vegetarian for 3 Vegan for 1. I have learned so much and happily defend all animals. Its crazy how we are raised with food so unaware of where it actually comes from or how it gets to our plate.

[@kimberleebrown6853]

🤎🤎🤎

[@subwayfacemelt4325]

Nothing is simple. Just thought I'd mention I'm allergic to plant foods. Now I have to eat animal products only, in order to survive. I think Steak and Butter Gal's story was more like she was developing auto-immunity from veganism, much like myself. I think it has something to do with our genetics. There's so many of us that almost died going vegan, yet heal so much when carnivore. Then there are so many who have to do pretty much the opposite, or in between. Blood type diet is interesting.

[@jdw0426]

Nothing is simple, but allergic to all of the thousands of edible plants? Blood-type diets are nonsense

[@heoTheo]

Omg this lady

[@jdmmg4904]

❤

[@lorah3005]

👍 Whole food plant based for the environment and health; vegan for the victims! *Ask your city government to sign the Plant Based Treaty!* 🖖

[@your-username-here2308]

Out of all Diets Carnivore has been by far the best i ever had.

[@carovegan94ec60]

Brilliant and assertive as usual. 💚💚💚