Harley Davidson, "All Three Holes" One Oil ?

Do you run a single oil in all three holes in your Harley ?
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[@bropocalypse2065]

I don’t have a bike. Google must’ve sent me here based on the frequent entry of “all three holes” in my search history.

[@jamescasello8100]

I only have two holes and I’m sitting on one of them “) If you count ears and nostrils I’d have six

[@hollowaysteve]

That made me chortle

[@Diamondusa7]

I get it

[@user-lv8yf2hh9q]

Hahahahaha! Very good

[@gregkeller80]

Gotta keep ‘em airtight!

[@tttrevin]

Houston TX my friend!!! I remember that beautiful bike. What a journey it was .

[@Moonfleet41]

Thank you Sir, glad to hear from you, and thank you so much for your long term support..

[@tinks43]

(P) Great to see her have some new blood, i’m sure she’s glad of the change! Hope you both have a good weekend 😀

[@Moonfleet41]

You too mate, looks like it's going to be a windy one!

[@FLYBOY123456789]

I hate to bust your bubble...but...here goes. 2019 SGS - Mobil 1 20w50 in all three holes...next...every Kawasaki, Honda, Yamaha and a whole bunch of others only have ONE tank for engine, clutch and transmission...there goes the theory that three holes need three different type of oils. good video mate.

[@ginojulius297]

U.S.A. YOUNGSTOWN OHIO BEEN WATCHING FROM THE START 👌 👌 👌 👌

[@Moonfleet41]

Thank you Gino, that is awesome support sir, we really appreciate that.. Hope you're enjoying the videos. Del.

[@exonusgod]

I get the idea... but I still see it as if every other manufacturer has managed to design engines which require only 1 type of oil, and that works for prettttyyyy much all motorbikes so far, then its shouldnt be a big issue.... But then I'm lazy and having to reseal 3 different bottles if seems like alot of work to me :P .... and riding all year round, so I'm changing oil every 1.5 - 2 months so bulk buying one oil is much cheaper here XD I'm curious to the long term results, would be really cool to do two bikes , one with and one without 3 oils, and measure wear across the clutch plates and gears over a 6 month period of similar riding. Tip btw, if you want to seal oil bottles again, you can use film wrap (kitchen cling film or the stuff you use in a lab works great) ontop of the lid and then cap the bottles, helps prevent water and air getting to them :)

[@Moonfleet41]

Yes, you're right, pretty much every other bike has a single oil for everything, and even some cars if you know yer stuff, but remember the three separate oils thing is historic and goes way back, it's actually OILS that have advanced now and even this Amsoil 20W50 can be used in all three holes, if you wish... but I'm finding that the thicker gear oil is definitely one of the benefits.

[@bachmanrob]

Where did you get your measuring jugs Bro? Are they in oz and qts?

[@Moonfleet41]

IKEA kitchenware section mate, measure fl.oz and ml

[@MrRajkarthi]

Amsoil 20w50 is it suitable for primary...

[@Moonfleet41]

Yes it is, it can be used for your primary, as can any decent engine oil, but their Primary Fluid is specified for the job!

[@MrRajkarthi]

@@Moonfleet41 thanks bro..

[@teddystephens881]

hey dell im good as gold now all healed up im tedbird2013

[@Moonfleet41]

Glad to hear you're recovering well Teddy, never nice to be under the weather, keep smiling mate, ride safe!

[@kuhlone54]

Amsoil is overrated, expensive and their website sucks. I was a dealer but I will not continue as one. That's just another way Amsoil gets more money out of your pocket. Just go to their website and find (look-up) oil for a 2019 Harley-Davidson. It only shows TRIUMPH. One bike for all 2019 models is a joke. Also shows management in Amsoil doesn't have a clue what users need. I used Harley-Davidson oil in my Harley-Davidson bike. I go to my local dealer and buy it by the case. It is the best you can put into a Harley-Davidson, period. But Del is correct that you should use specific oils in each hole. Cheers!

[@pongobird]

Just unsubscribed to this channel. Sucks that this company has infected our delboy. I have read so many bad things about amsoil marketing.

[@robertpolkamp]

AMSOIL is a marketing company, a Quacker State spinoff.

[@kingkrimson8771]

Even Harley themselves doesn't believe the "one fluid for all three holes" thing anymore. About five years ago Harley sent an internal memo to dealer service departments advising them to stop recommending Syn 3 for use in the primary chaincase. This was due to frequent customer complaints of excessive noise from the primary. It's dedicated fluids for each hole for me.

[@walcrow7319]

Right with you, Del. Amsoil only in my police bike. The Harley dealer I go to sells all the brands...Redline, Screamin' Give me your Gold coins oil, etc. When I've been in the back with the service techs, the majority whisper to me what they use.........AMSOIL. Good choice.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thank you Sir, it's great to have such endorsement, the bike already feels better, certainly on gear changes and that all important first engagement on a cold morning, a lot softer and less aggressive, definitely an improvement!

[@TheStarbuck61]

I just came across this particular issue and really appreciate your covering this, even 3/4 years down the road. I am putting Lucas in my oil bag, but have not yet done the tranny and primary, so this will really be helpful. p.s. - your video was totally professional!!!

[@Moonfleet41]

Thank you for your kind feedback, I'm really glad the video could help you out brother.

[@shaneitsaname6135]

Mouth out of sync with words at 2.30, thought I was having an acid flashback. I use Dino 20/50 for engine and primary, Bel-ray big twin in the gearbox. Just saying. Did use Amsoil all round , but expensive as buggery in Australia.

[@Toledowrap]

Great video! Helped me out a lot. I am a new Harley rider and the detail of the oils was great 👍

[@tommorrisey3999]

Del, I have never been a fan of Syn 3 because, while it meets the testing requirements for a “full synthetic,” it is (when last I checked) ~40% mineral (non-synthetic) oil, which makes it prone to blanketing (larger molecules migrate to the outside of passages, causing an increase in engine temperature). AMSOIL is, on the other hand, a full synthetic (as are Mobil 1 V Twin, Lucas and a few others). That makes such oils superior to the Harley oil (which is, last I checked, sourced from Citgo in Venezuela).

[@Moonfleet41]

Wow thank you for that fascinating information Tom, didn't know that, and already we are seeing some improvements, especially in the gearbox with smoother selection and slick changes between gears... thanks for your time Sir, much appreciate your input.

[@Poppa_82]

I use Harley Davidson's Screaming Eagle SYN3 synthetic 20W50 oil 👌🏽

[@AndrewSpinney-wt5kh]

Great video, thank you. Just returned from the dealer for a 5,000 mile service, $430. I don’t mind paying for a service while I go have breakfast, IF they dealt with the issues, they didn’t. I had a plastic gum wrapper keeping the left side cover from wearing away the oil line at the rear of the engine. When they pulled it around, the cover was not seated in the grommets and the wrapper was still there. Nice job on the service, oil on the gaskets and everything torqued properly. Clean!

[@Patrick_B687-3]

Holy moly your video quality has gotten as slick as the new shop man. Very, very nice! I do three holes different, and have something to say, but even HD has taken the line of lots of old mechanics and introduced a heavy gear oil for the gearbox recently. I’m anxious to hear what you say.

[@jaja8951]

Yes ur correct friend HD Does a gear oil now the part No. is 62600093 80/140 thick as Pea Soup 😉😀

[@wolco003]

I use 3 separate Amsoil oils. Still love that paint and the bike sounds great!

[@FreeSwimmer]

Great Stuff ! About 40k miles ago I started with Mobil 1 Synthetic oil and 80-90 Lucas gear oil.. My bike mechanic friend only uses the amsoil at his shop, so Im gonna give amsoil a whirl.. If your Texas supplier is priced right I will get with Joe's shop and buy from them.. I do my own servicing to save $$

[@westtennesseeprepper2552]

I use amsoil love it my bike 08 fxstc 96ci with 103ci upgrade bike run cooler a little more but I feel it's worth it

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks for that feedback Randy, and it's good to know it runs cooler, as the weather has been so cold I've not noticed that a lot yet, I am picking up a bit more valve train noise, do you find the same?

[@Radioactive_Slime]

Half expected the Amsoil sign to fall off the wall... ; ) Looks like you’ve figured it out. More shots of the V-twin firing up please.

[@plageran]

That startup looked like a process lol

[@bkdexter79]

Video is very well done! Great job pointing out filling the filter, lubing the gasket, and changing the o-ring on the drain plug. Spot on!

[@Moonfleet41]

Most welcome buddy.. Glad it was helpful!

[@FFL-vg9ro]

Part two: When 4-stroke dirt bikes became popular, I chose not to use Amsoil and just go with the Honda or Yamaha oil because I don't like extended oil changes, and dump the oil every few rides. Fresh oil gives so much better clutch feel off road and I could not afford to dump expensive oil out that often. Now I'm back to running Amsoil in most everything. Mowers, tractors, tillers, all small engines (they don't take much oil and go an entire summer or more on one oil change). I also picked up my first, and second and third Harley in recent years, and all of them are now running Amsoil. Shifting and clutch feel is better than the Syn3 that came in the bikes. I could not find the link to the site I saw recently, but the guy rode to work every day for a month with conventional oil and then for a month with Amsoil. He used a infrared gun to record engine temp at the end of the ride each way for two months. The Amsoil month engine temps averaged 20 degrees cooler.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks for your feedback my friend, sounds like it was a good choice.

[@lauriecremore5601]

Your a great guy and Mechanic.. you show your passion with this very well,. 👌

[@davidmartin6927]

Seen all 3 holes and clicked by habit. Not what I expected!

[@ddddsd20]

Great video. I live in the U S A (Georgia) and I’ve been running Amsoil in my bike and truck for over 20 years, personally I think it’s the best you can buy, the bikes seem to run and shift better. Everyone has a preference, and that’s fine, there’s more than one quality brand on the market.

[@splodge5714]

Pretty straight forward for my Sportster, the two Harley oils engine and primary.

[@rudyverwilt9992]

I use the three oils (Motor, primairy and gear) on my bike (Nighttrain 2007)and got over 185000kms on it. For the motoroil i use 20w50 multigrade, and the is running just fine with it. I'm a amateur mechanic and work on all sorts of HD's, and they all running fine. I dont believe in "full syntetic oil", for sre not on a used bike. Am i wrong here? great vids , by the way. Grtz from Antwerp, Belgium.😉

[@fader2701]

OMG!! not using brand specific oil. OMG....lol check the specs of the oil. youre fine

[@DeluxeChimp]

I've used Amsoil products in my last 2 Harleys. Couldn't be happier. Good stuff.

[@allenhuling598]

Both my boys are auto mechanics and one works on Harleys with his father-in-law (certified Harley Mech) as well. They have gone to all Amsoil at the Harley Shop, and now we've got it in our vehicles as well, and loving it! My little dual-sport (one-holer) likes premium oil too, but haven't gone to Amsoil just yet! :-) I was thinking of you two when I took some photos down our street yesterday with snow stacked to 4' on each side of the road, maybe we'll get to start riding by late March! Your bike looks and sounds awesome, Del...Cheers!

[@Moonfleet41]

Hey Allen, how wonderful to hear from you! And how amazing, we've never seen snow that deep... 3" of snow here in England and they declare a state of emergency!! We had some wind and rain overnight this weekend, a few trees blown down and watching the news, you'd think it was the end of the world... don't they love the drama! But at least we are lucky enough to be able to ride all year round, with maybe a few days punctuation for those icy mornings... take care and keep warm, thinking of you all over there in beautiful Kodiak, D&Px

[@josephblough5856]

What I don't appreciate is that neither of the 2 non 20w50 fluids, don't offer any numbers , nothing such as 80W140 whatever, we are just suppose to take their word for it? My Harley dealer parts guy shared his personal preference was 80W140,searching on line, amsoil does not give us any numbers

[@jamescasello8100]

Yup, I’m from the USA. I like your Harley videos. I also like that you always explain “why” you do what you do. I’m guessing you’re somewhere in England where I suppose Triumph bikes prevail. I like bonnevilles from back in the day. Great vids you make.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thank you James, yes we are in England, and I wouldn't say Triumph is dominant here, but certainly plentiful!

[@markwilliams9793]

I always thought it odd that one oil fits all, but like yourself, that's what I do.

[@lylehumphreys9099]

Checking to see if i get tesponce since video so old my line coming from side casing to my pump had a pin hole dripping oil right at the pump nipple so to replace this it looks like i have to take gear box side covers to get to it ? N buy new gaskets or make a gasket lube ? Is this correct

[@FLSTF-us4df]

Hello from Canada. Don’t wait, Amsoil is the only oil I have ever used in all three holes in my Harley’s. You will notice a big difference. I only use the K&N oil filter, #-KN-171C it to is the best.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thank you for that sound endorsement Sir, I have already noticed much improvement! Ride safe, and thanks for your support.

[@FLSTF-us4df]

Delboy's Garage, Hi Del, your welcome, I have a Amsoil dealer 10 min drive from my house, very lucky. I service all my bikes over the last 40 plus years, you know what they say, your never to old to learn new ideas and I have by watch your videos, keep up the great work you do. I also purge the oil every time I change the oil, I watched your how to videos, from 1-5, great videos, here is a little trick I would like to share with you. What I have done is taken a used oil filter and cutting the filter in half using a die grinder, then remove all the insides of the filter, wash and remove the burrs around the filters, sand both sides of the two half’s and apply some J-B Weld Epoxy around both half’s, now press the two half’s back together, when the epoxy has dried in 24 hours you now have made a scavenger puck. Now use the puck when doing your oil change. I hope you share this idea with others. I don’t know how to post pictures, but if you e-mail me I can share a picture or two with you and maybe others. My e-mail is [e-mail] Thanks for all you do!! Thanks Luis

[@chipperfluffy]

I live in Missouri, usa. I use email in my bike! I love it! Its definitely much better than standard HD oil

[@cr-ew8od]

I'm a dedicated fan of the maintenance style vids! Love it!

[@-MrRichBiker1967]

Yes, me as well, very well said!`

[@tommorrisey3999]

One other note, Del. I’d always used the Harley product (Formula+) in my transmission and primary on both of our Harleys. But, last week I installed a Barnett lock-up pressure plate on my ‘06 Road King and, seeing as I was going to have the outer primary cover off, elected to spend an extra $160 and replace the stock clutch plates (they had 119K miles on them) with Barnett’s extra-plate carbon-fiber kit. The instructions that came with the kit said to use any motorcycle-rated primary oil, but noted they’d had numerous reports of clutch plates sticking, particularly in cooler weather, when Formula+ was used. So, now I’m having strong second thoughts about Formula+ as well. I still use Harley’s steering-head grease; it is the only product I’ve found that does not melt out in the Florida summer. But, for my other lubricants, I suspect the Motor Company may not be the preferred source.

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Tom... looking at the claims made by Amsoil on their Primary Chain Case oil, it may do the job a bit better.. ive used F+ a few times, and it does seem to gum the plates together, specially first thing in the morning with that initial engagement of 1st gear... i had to paddle the clutch lever half a dozen times to get them to separate, or it slammed into gear like a sledge hammer.... now already with the Amsoil Primary oil, it's a single action, "clutch lever in, wait 2 seconds, drop the shifter" for a nice smooth thump into gear with no harshness or metallic noise... and the pull away is smooth, clean and not grabby..! I'd say that riding in FL you'll put it to the test a lot more then i ever will... maybe worth a try.?

[@Patrick_B687-3]

Been waiting for your update on this. If you can’t tell a difference on the gearbox fluid I’ll be surprised. Primary is pretty flexible IMO. All I know on mine is that Syn 20/50 lets you hear more valve train noise. I use all Drag Specialties mineral oils for the last two changes and I’ve been happy. It’s 85/140 in the gearbox, 25/60 in the motor, and whatever their primary oil is made of. I know certain people rave endlessly about the Amsoil, and have no doubt it’s good, just not sure how much is hype. Now people are raving about Tribodyn oils too. So far, I’m please with the aforementioned fluids for my 04’ TC88.

[@Moonfleet41]

Hey Patrick.. Thank you for the useful feedback sir.. i certainly have noticed some dramatic changes in all three applications.. the transmission is quieter and changed gear so much smoother (only had 20/50 in there before).. and you are absolutely right, i can certainly hear more valve train noise.. and hearing you say that has truly allayed my fears because it was way quieter before on the SE Syn3 oil.. still 20/50, but for some reason, no valve train ticking.... i was even thinking that my oil level was catastrophically low for some reason... but if its common and a known result.. then im happy that its nothing drastic.... I'm currently off the road for a week or two while i paint the tins again, then once its back together im going to post up a full report video on the changes ive noticed with the Amsoil.... Thank you again for your input, it's been truly helpful... Have a good weekend.. Del.

[@Patrick_B687-3]

@@Moonfleet41 You’re most welcome, but it’s just ones guys opinion. Glad you liked the gearbox, and it’s interesting that HD has finally admitted that gear oil is actually a good idea for the gears. A local Mechanic who’s been building and repairing ALL types of bikes (street and track) for 40+ years gets credit for me going this route. He’s been telling people this for decades, and says it makes believers out of all save the most peculiar types. I would go full Syn, but I change frequently enough it doesn’t matter, especially with my mild style of riding.

[@lfcmarkeb7124]

done well out of this channel fair do's, remember early on started off with a shitty little garage and a bag of spanners lol, shameless plug this episode here though

[@KingpinGarage]

Carbureted Twin-Cam Dynas are the cream of the crop. ...not including FXRs 😈

[@Moonfleet41]

Can't argue with that..!

[@dennytuma]

a semi truck uses 50 weight in their transmissions can't see why a motorcycle would need any heavier oil

[@lylehumphreys9099]

Oh its a Xl1200c....2007 model on the oil line question

[@deankirkman7753]

I feel the clutch and transmission separate from the engine lube is more of a contamination thing keeping clutch disk grime out of the engine. How many bikes you know have hydraulic lifters and other areas where small metal dust could possibly damage? Been working on Harley and other brands since the late 70 s Thanks for the video!

[@RenegadesGarage]

Del.. Great video.. Harley designed their motorcycles to use the type of oil that they recommend so I figure if it doesn't work it's on Harley not me and so I have always used Harleys Syn3 (or Mobile1) full synthetic 20w50 oil in all three holes in all of my bikes and have never had any problems. A very popular motorcycle parts house told me "if you ride hard you need to use thicker oil in the transmission". Well our club does ride hard so I tried a thicker gear oil from Amsoil for my transmission and didn't like it. It was quite noisy and had a burnt smell after riding so I switched back to the Syn3.

[@Moonfleet41]

That's interesting brother, it's amazing how we become accustomed to our bikes and grow a 'feel' for them, since filling this oil and the first few miles I've done, the engine is the same, the clutch feels pretty much the same, but the gearbox does feel different... smoother maybe, a little less clunky, definitely not as noisy, but new oil will always do that, so I'm going to run it in for a couple of hundred miles and see how it feels... but so far, I'm really impressed.

[@lawdawg5823]

I just use conventional oil in my 88” twin cam. Synthetic oil gives it a loud knocking noise. Then I use Harley transmission oil in gear box and primary.

[@oldsoldier181]

Oil is expensive. A broken bike is expensiver though!!! Seriously though, the cost of the oil is what it is. Do it yourself, save $200 on service. Fluid changes arent difficult. I am actually doing mine tomorrow. I use 3 different fluids in all 3 holes. And always do the maintnenance myself. My bike will be doing its 20k check up soon-but as I do the fluids, the checkup is merely checking the belts, spark plugs, etc. And its being done for warranty purposes :)

[@Moonfleet41]

Wise words well said, the biggest saving you'll make is on labour time!

[@sufianalfutaih3952]

Just serviced my sportster, sparks & oil filt & 2 oils . But the primary oil (my buddy put 75/90 oil in it) man I was pissed cause I wasn't there when he did so and I always 20/50 both . Now after alot of research I'm thinking of that 75/90 oil again to go back in my primary . Any ideas guys / gals ? Should I or not ? Help please .

[@Moonfleet41]

Way too thick mate, primary oil needs to be roughly the same viscosity as engine oil, any thicker, like gear oil, and it can glue your clutch plates together, giving you way heavy gear changes and even clutch drag at the lights.

[@rsbharley4766]

Nice video Del. Me and my mate use Amsoil oil in our harleys dedicated oil for each hole and it seems to work well over here in Oz with the heat. My gears seem to shift a lot smoother. The motor runs a lot smoother and more freely + I use a reusable oil filter with cooling fins for the heat. Not that you would need one over there LOL. Penny and you have relaxing weekend. Cheers

[@Moonfleet41]

Great news to hear that mate.. and yeah, "need cooling fins on a filter in England"?.. fat chance of that !!! this time of year im lucky if the oil level rises to "full" in a ten miles ride..! Big storm coming tomorrow, so time to play in the garage again i recon... take care as always.. D&Pxx

[@scottvestal6799]

On my Road King, I switched to synthetic gear oil for the gearbox. Much quieter, and fewer "missed" gear shifts between first and second. Within a year, all of my friends switched too. I continued to run motor oil in the primary. One of my buddies ran ATF in her primary and liked the results.

[@Moonfleet41]

That's cool Scott, I've run ATF in primary for years, it's a great choice and like you, I'm impressed with a thicker gear oil for the smooth and quierter changes it gives you, plus it's a lot more civilsed dropping in to 1st gear on a cold morning!

[@crackerjack8115]

I've been running Castrol for years on multiple sport bikes, Harleys , cars and trucks. Any thoughts on Castrol

[@Moonfleet41]

Castrol is the preferred recommended lubricants fot Triumph now, and very much a premium product to trust!

[@dcxplant]

Shaeffer’s. Engine oil, primary case, gear oil in transmission.

[@faelwolf1177]

One oil or three, the most important thing is to keep it changed on time. HD is fine with either choice, so long as it's the correct grade(s). I've always run one, but this time around, going to go with 3 just to see how I like it. That's the real issue, how do *you* like it, how does it work for *you*. Some people look to squeeze every last bit of performance out of their bike, others just want to go cruise somewhere and aren't so technical minded. It's always been that way, likely always will. Some day folks will be debating the finer points of which reactant to use in a neutron drive or something! :)

[@Moonfleet41]

Early days yet, but already finding smoother gear changes and a slightly more comfortable clutch action... I guess thicker oil in the gearbox will always smooth things out! Time will tell and if it ever stops raining, I might do a ride vlog just to cover it!!

[@clydeholiday5907]

Yeah it's happy for you cuz it's a easy way to do it but your bike can't stand it your motorcycle hates that stuff they have more issues with sin 3 than any other oils do you like it because it's easy

[@Moonfleet41]

Made a whole series of videos on Amsoil products that do both.. they make an oil rated for all three, and also two other oils dedicated for primary and transmission.. i found little difference with the primary, engine oil is more or less good enough... but for the gearbox, a thicker oil has many benefits.

[@mightymerlin128]

When I bought my Harley I saw your first video about changing the oil( primary gear and main). I was about to do it but after a lot of research I came to the same conclusion like you did on this video. Gear need thicker oil primary needs thinner (as a matter of fact I use for automatic transmission oil)full synthetic 20 50 on main. Congratulations you have figure it out as well. Keep up the good work. My next trip with my Harley will be from Greece to England so I can pay a visit and let you do the service on my bike! 😊

[@-MrRichBiker1967]

Delroy.. that's a beauty.. do you still have that bike ?man I always love those Softailbob fenders! My man you have to tell me what song that was phenomenal song I have to get it thank you so much for the video all your videos are effective and professional!!

[@Moonfleet41]

Hey there, thank you for your kind words, sadly I sold that Harley a couple of years ago... but it was a fabulous bike and I put a lot of work in to it!... thank you for the kind words on the music, they're an American band called 'Feast of Friends', the first track was 'Utopia' and the second track was 'Man and God'... here's a link to their page: www.reverbnation.com/OFFRIENDS

[@semperfipar1299]

Car oil is cheaper and better for the engine. Thicker is not always better.

[@jerrys2346]

I'll find you a place to stay in the U.S. if you find me a place for the Isle of Man TT.

[@cubstig]

I use Motul 7100 20/50 in my 883 sporty, and Revtech Sportster Primary oil in the primary case. In fact I remember watching one of your videos a few years back recommending a very good fitting T27 for the derby cover! Good advice. 👍

[@Moonfleet41]

Sure thing buddy, Sportsters are wonderfully flexible, you can even use a good quality synthetic 20/50 in the transmission and it'll do fine! And yep, T27 unique to Harleys, they call it the imperial torx bit.

[@Chevyv8man1]

Hey Delboy, In the future, instead of pulling your derby cover to change your primary oil, you should pull the inspection cover so you can also check and/or adj your primary chain. This is as long as you're not adjusting your clutch. It's also easier to pour your oil in. Later

[@Moonfleet41]

How do you check the level mate...? It is essential to remove the derby cover to observe that the oil doesn't come any higher than the bottom of the plates, by all means, you can fill it through the chain hole, but make sure you check it by looking through the derby hole, it's pretty critical that you don't overfill it...

[@markhale7061]

Be good yo see your feedback on the amsoil , my fatty and dyna both due ....

[@stevevesotsky6849]

Fantastic video as always, Del :) How do you, or one us backyard mechanics (wannabe in my case) dispose of the old oil / fuel?

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Steve. we have a local waste recycling tip, they take it in small quantities and for free.!

[@peterredinius4316]

I had an old fella tell me that the best oil to use was to be brown and slippery

[@briantalbott516]

Haha It's like you had seen my search history from yesterday when you made this video. You're awesome man. Keep making videos

[@plageran]

Hard work finally paying of for Del an Penny, grats guys and gals! Quick Q though, I've changed the clutch plates on my 250R about 2 weeks ago, ran out of time with the new gasket and oil plug washer, should i soak my clutch plates again, or are they still fine? I've loosely fitted the clutch cover on.

[@Moonfleet41]

If you soaked the new clutch plates over night, then they'll be fine, should have absorbed all they need to, they shouldn't dry out in a fortnight.!

[@plageran]

@@Moonfleet41 was thinking of pre-dipping them in the morning while I struggle to clean up the gasket in the morning lol

[@jimpatrick8021]

And we have gas at $1.91 a gal here in Austin Texas...

[@ralphvalkenhoff2887]

Come out and ride through the Colorado Rocky Mountains on a Harley. You’ll have the time of your life

[@Moonfleet41]

What a beautiful place indeed... that would be some serious feel good therapy.

[@richs39]

I am an Amsoil dealer, just to pass on some info. Amsoil is mostly sold through a network of individual dealers; anywhere that you see it in a retail shop, that shop buys via a dealer. (Even if the retailer orders directly from Amsoil, their account is tied to a specific dealer.)

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks for your input Rich.. Where are you based.?

[@Moonfleet41]

@@jamesweber4938 The link i have provided in the description will ship free to you in Canada if you need some.!

[@richs39]

@@Moonfleet41 I am in the Detroit area.

[@pd6569]

I recently found your channel and just subscribed to it. I purchased all the items needed to do the 3-hole change. However, when I reread the manual (2021 FLTRXSE - CVO RG) it indicates that I need to change the engine oil at 5k, the primary at 10k, and the transmission at 20k. Based on your 3 hole change video, you do change all 3 every 5k or do you follow the manual? If you do change all 3 at 5k, can you share your reasons for doing so? Thank you very much…. From Northern Virginia.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks for the sub and welcome aboard, Those service intervals are correct in both cases, Your bike is a 1 year old Touring model, and in this video the bike was a 20 year old Dyna, things have changed a lot in 20 years, much longer service intervals and many other conveniences too, such as self adjusting primary chain and clutch, servicing is a lot easier than it was two decades ago. Of course, if you have just invested in a new '21 RG, then why not treat it to all new fluids.. the manual says when you 'must' change them, doesn't say you can't do it early.! Nice bike BTW.!

[@pd6569]

@@Moonfleet41 thank you so much for the response and for sharing your rationale, especially the comment about the manual (when you must change oils by). That makes a lot of sense and helps put things in proper perspective. I fell in love with the bike and had to have it….thank you. Ride and be safe.

[@krmoto5158]

You ever get a chance to get over here to the US we Definitely have to go out on a ride got some beautiful country over here in Oregon. Oh I had to ask what's the difference between a pound and a Quinn Hope I'm pronouncing that right lol😁

[@Moonfleet41]

Ha ha, The word it "Quid", its just a nick name for Pound.. it's believed to come from Latin "Quid Pro Quo", meaning fair exchange "something for something".. a quaint remnant from history that stuck..maybe like the word "Bucks".. from when Deer skins were currency..! And id love to ride in Oregon, what a beautiful state..! thank you for your support.. Del.

[@krmoto5158]

@@Moonfleet41 Awsome thanks for the info No worries on the support definitely looking forward for more videos ride safe my friend👍

[@kennetheroh4052]

Mobil 1 20w50 thumbs up all 3 holes

[@mikec7661]

Is it ok to add the primary fluid in the smaller inspection hole? No funnel required.

[@Moonfleet41]

Yeah, but you need to check the oil level.. you can only do that by observing through the Derby cover hole.

[@clivewilliams1406]

Is Amsoil 100% better than Castrol, Mobil, Valvoline, Shell, Motul etc of equivalent spec, all that can be sourced to do exactly the same job in EU for 1/2 the price? I cannot believe that to be the case. I do however, agree that job specific oil is beneficial although most Japanese and European bike manufacturers use one common oil for all three duties and their bikes are significantly more highly stressed than an H-D engine.

[@Moonfleet41]

I think your broad sweeping statement that "Japanese and European bikes are significantly more highly stressed than an H-D engine" indicates that maybe you're not a Harley Davidson fan, or maybe don't accept that they have stresses that are perhaps different, but none the less still significant..!? Not sure if you know, but H-D recommend that "In the absence of a Genuine HD oil, to use Oil rated for "DIESEL" Engines... fact... that sounds like plenty of stress to me.. just perhaps a different kind.

[@clivewilliams1406]

@@Moonfleet41 It is true I'm not an H-D fan and consider them a little too agricultural in both design and implementation. Indian and Victory have more design attributes and both share the same US manufacturing base as H-D, although I would probably not acquire any of them. It took Porsche to drag H-D into the modern world particularly with their engine design and then H-D regressed to their former selves. Any engine has stresses but those in the 'superbike' world see the the highest stresses caused by their rev range, and quality BMEP outputs. For H-D to recommend oil rated for Diesel engines probably has nothing to do with diesel like stresses i.e. static compression ratios from 16:1 to 23:1, but more to do with the extra detergents in the oil to wash and absorb the excess carbon generated by diesel engines. For H-D to require diesel oil formulations suggest excessive blow-by caused by poor cylinder sealing as I'm sure that it can't have the static compression ratio of a diesel engine otherwise it wouldn't require a spark plug? H-D are obliged to provide all the oil specification data for anyone using it in the safety data sheet so you can assess the ingredients.

[@banditdarvil7161]

Question. Is the choke lever you have a modification or was that factory on your model bike? I don’t much about other Harley models, but have an 04FXDL and would love to have a choke setup like that versus what I have.

[@Moonfleet41]

No mate, that is not a factory carb, it's an S&S Super E carburetor and that isn't a choke, it's the enriching lever (that's it's proper name), it's only a feature of S&S carbs and you couldn't fit that set up to your factory carb.

[@banditdarvil7161]

@@Moonfleet41 Ah, gotcha. I wasn’t aware but that’s very cool. Thanks for the reply and thanks for your videos. Always very informative! 👍👊

[@goodboyringo9716]

I been running Mobil one 20w 50 in all three holes for 27,000 miles and never had a problem. I did just buy Bel Ray 85/140 for my trans but haven't changed it.

[@ericosborne9267]

Del where did you get the t handle torque wrench? That's awesome.

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Eric, here's a link my friend: www.spanner-monkey.co.uk/Wiha-Torque-T-Handle-ST-Plus-TorqueVario-Set-29234?search=torque%20vario&description=true

[@boomerguy9935]

I am a Preferred Customer of Amsoil products....periodically. I pay the membership, stock up a big inventory, let the membership expire in 6 months. A year or two later, I repeat. While I'm a customer, the lower price of the products and free shipping offset the membership fee and I'm still money ahead. I've used Amsoil products in cars, metric bikes and my Sportster for decades and I've never had a problem with any of them. I highly recommend Amsoil. No, I don't get paid anything for saying this. I genuinely love the stuff. My favorite motorcycle oil filters are NAPA Gold 21-micron filters which are made by WIX. The Evo engines need the higher micron rating for better flow. The newer TC and M8 engines are OK with the 5-micron filters, same as the metric bikes.

[@RickyG512]

That's a shame, no follow up video as promised :-(

[@Moonfleet41]

Oh yes there was, in our Playlst...! kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHTcpXp5rMylgbs

[@gixerman01]

Haven't been on KZbin much lately. Playing catchup on your channel. Shop looks great! looks like your getting ready for the riding season. I have to start getting my bikes ready too.

[@Moonfleet41]

Hey buddy, good to hear from you again.. yep, its about that time again, get all the bikes ready for the season so you can just drag 'em out and ride any time..

[@Dude_Virus]

Hi, please correct me if I am wrong but as per my understanding, on the Sportster I think there is a common sump for all 3 ? I am thinking of shifting from the Syn3 to Amsoil Sae60 or the Amsoil 15W60 , so that it can help with the high temps. The temps dont go down much low where I live, the lowest ever is 10 degree celcius so I don't think I need to worry about cold temperatures much. My riding involves a lot of stop and go traffic so was thinking to putting a higher weight oil to help. Please suggest if any of those would be good ?

[@ARLOBIKES]

What mirrors are in this please?

[@michaelharris2615]

What are you using in the spray bottle with the yellow top at the start of the video?

[@Moonfleet41]

It's WD40 "Bike Wash".. a soap product made by WD40 for cleaning bikes..!

[@daniellang6112]

Amsoil IS the best!

[@GPgman]

Glad you ditched the HD oil

[@harleymanpearce]

just so you know if you're not strong on your geography but Canada is in North American, it consist of Canada, US and Mexico and we call it a transmission not a gear box

[@thenotoriousmrtwitchmachin7004]

Britain has given America so much over the years, settlers, rock and punk... And now (we hope) an ambassador with Brit humor.. Get over there Dellboy!! (Please come back too!)

[@motocyklowywagabunda7038]

Amsoil all the way for me, I won't buy Sync3 from 1 simple reason, no specification on the back of the bottle, are they trying to hide something or what? Myself I believe that if you want to keep your HD running stay away from HD products :)

[@thefreedomguyuk]

Perhaps all those guys who habitually stick the same oil in all holes are doing their bit to add to that myth saying Harley-Davidson engines aren't very good ? Having said that, am relieved you didn't use that fancy, branded "Genuine Harley-Davidson Oil" 😉

[@FLSTF-us4df]

Delboy's Garage, Hi Del, your welcome, I have a Amsoil dealer 10 min drive from my house, very lucky. I service all my bikes over the last 40 plus years, you know what they say, your never to old to learn new ideas and I have by watch your videos, keep up the great work you do. I also purge the oil every time I change the oil, I watched your how to videos, from 1-5, great videos, here is a little trick I would like to share with you. What I have done is taken a used oil filter and cutting the filter in half using a die grinder, then remove all the insides of the filter, wash and remove the burrs around the filters, sand both sides of the two half’s and apply some J-B Weld Epoxy around both half’s, now press the two half’s back together, when the epoxy has dried in 24 hours you now have made a scavenger puck. Now use the puck when doing your oil change. I hope you share this idea with others. I don’t know how to post pictures, but if you e-mail me I can share a picture or two with you and maybe others. My e-mail is [e-mail] Thanks for all you do!! Thanks Luis

[@jeronebuffington1648]

I don’t see the link for the Amsoil dealer in Texas.

[@Moonfleet41]

Do you not?.. it's right there Jerome, second link down...!!!!

[@jimv3352]

So, did you notice any difference after putting a couple hundred KM on the bike? Is it worth it to run 3 different oils, as opposed to 1 oil... like AMSOIL recommends?

[@Moonfleet41]

Yes it is worth it, I did make a subsequent video on this riding the bike and a report at the end, you'll find it in our Playlist... definitely and improvement with the Amsoil 3 oils, the engine is much the same, just slightly more valve train noise, but apparently this is well known and harmless as it's not increased valve train lash, you just tend to hear the system working a little more audibly... the primary is better, no chain noise and the clutch is smooth, but best of all the gearbox, the thicker, stand-alone gear oil makes for quieter, smoother shifts, and no gear whine at all, so much improved... you won't regret the change, and from the comments on the subsequent video, many people feel the same about Amsoil, it is much respected.

[@jimv3352]

@@Moonfleet41 Thank You for the quick reply. I will have to look through your playlist and find that video! In the meantime I have ordered Amsoil for the next service on my 2017 Road Glide Ultra

[@Moonfleet41]

@@jimv3352 Most welcome Jim, save you some time, here;s a link to it directly.. It's a ride video first, and the information is in the second half..! Enjoy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHTcpXp5rMylgbs

[@2000bobbyteague]

Hello, love the Videos. I'm new to DIY especially on my HD Softail Fatboy FXSTFI. I took a nice ride and set it in the yard to head out again and had some rain. LONG story short. Got rain in the oil and after changing it all and getting the Nasty out I noticed the oil has a DIFFICULT time getting to the Filter. I even left it off and started the bike to see how BIG a problem I was looking at. BIG was the word. Oil barley creeped out. So no return through the engine back to Tank. Any thoughts or is it time to head back to the Shop....

[@CheckFred]

Seeing the start of this video reminded me of the Sundays way back in '63 when an older lad I used to hang about with bought a Blue Honda Dream 250cc .... It was HIS intention to keep it 'Sparkly' and 'New' ...... Guess who got THAT job?? ;-)

[@loddude5706]

Hi Del, have to agree with you on this one, 'one-size-fits-all' rarely fits anyone well. The people that design & build the machinery tend to spend a lot of time & effort getting the best they can from whatever the accountants allowed them to build. Only the builder knows why they changed from say, Oilite to phosphor bronze bushings in the lower fulcrum pin wallop-arm two years ago, so to my mind, only they can advise on the best fluids for said wobbly bit to last well into the future. The lube in those three holes has to live in three different environments, with different loadings in sheer, pressure, temp. range & unsympathetic owner abuse etc. No maker wants warranty claims because they gave you duff info about their product, but 'Snake Oil' sellers have always said their product 'cures all known ills'. Take care riding this w/e you two, we're due very strong & gusty winds over the next few days. Have fun anyway : ) xx

[@East_TX_LCR]

Sweet im in Texas

[@JDnBeastlet]

Just one hole for me and my UJM - one oil to rule them all. But it makes sense, at least on the surface, to have specialized oils when they are separate as they are on your HD. BTW nothing gets the fur flying like oil debates... but I bet you knew that already. ;)

[@shank0]

So...is there a follow up, or results video? Wondering if you noticed any difference.

[@Moonfleet41]

Yep, here you go, a little delayed due to lockdown..! kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHTcpXp5rMylgbs

[@shank0]

@@Moonfleet41 thanks. I guess i just missed it scrolling through your videos. Ride safe.

[@Cueballproductions1149]

i say go with it america its the uks future now were out of the eu go for it del let the channel roll