Therapist sobs... Su!cIde by Ren

Therapist analyzes the lyrics of Ren's song Su!cIde to discuss the importance of destigmatizing and speaking about suicide. When we speak about suicide instead of dancing around it, it becomes an invitation for people to explore the pain that often leads to individuals taking their lives.
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[@TWFydGlu]

Ren said he didn't want to commit suicide after he had seen the impact of Joe's suicide on his family and friends. He expected to die soon anyways. So I think you can say Joe saved Ren's life.

[@jorice5528]

100% Joe was indeed his bestest friend in every way as he saved Ren for the world ❤🙏🥹

[@dskovar]

@@jorice5528wow

[@user-jd1ze5zo7i]

That’s exactly why I didn’t commit suicide too. My brother did it in 2013 and it destroyed my family forever, I wanted to die too but I couldn’t multiply my family’s pain

[@danrudnick5252]

First half is him talking about his own depression from being sick for so many years. Second half is about losing his friend Joe. Joe had called another friend saying he was on a bridge and going to jump. The friend called Ren, and he started running to the bridge. He estimates he was only a few minutes too late. Blamed himself for a long time even though there wasn't anything he could have done. Survivor's guilt.

[@ianrose56]

Anglesea Bridge connects the island of Anglesea to mainland Wales. It's very high. They think Joe wasn't going to jump. However, that night was a stormy one, and they reckon a gust of wind combined with a loose grip was enough for Joe to lose his balance.!!! The islands just off the Irish sea,and currents are very very strong around the island, the RNLI ( Lifeboats ) searched for days looking for Joe, they never found him.!! Ren later on went back to Anglesea to the lifeboat station and handed them a cheque for 10k.!! Check out For Joe. Ren wrote this piece for Joe's funeral ( no body ) and performed it at the service in front of Joe's parents and the other mourners. How he held it together is beyond me.!!!

[@angelodacosta7655]

You should check out "For Joe" next, it rly follows this up. Also just some added info. The last part of the song (the piano part) was added later and wasn't planned originally. So the feeling you talked about with the 2 perspectives actually wasn't far off at all. Also Ren on the night his friend commited was the person out of his friend group who lived the closest so he got a phone call telling him they thought his friend Joe was on the bridge close to him. So that part about running 5 minutes quicker is literal.

[@kristerferhawkins8271]

For Joe takes all the hurt from the end of this song and moves to acceptance. Everything from the setting, the music the message is absolutely beautiful and super healing. Definitely a must see

[@theswordsofflame9656]

I would also recommend freckled angles

[@nathan_sweet]

Yes! Especially the live version.

[@n_mckean]

For Joe is a mashup of this & Freckled Angels from his prior album. I’d do the original before the mashup.

[@coleeg69]

Agreed 💯 great addition to this song.

[@durky4891]

Freckled Angel's, How To Be Me, and For Joe are all about his friend. They are so impactful.

[@TRPLD]

Definitely the three most pain filled songs of Ren. They always hit me like a brick!

[@landonwilliams7954]

I can't find "for joe" on spotify. Am I just dumb or is it not on there or something

[@TRPLD]

@@landonwilliams7954 for Joe unfortunately is one of the songs that is only on KZbin (along with his Retakes).

[@mandb85]

​@@landonwilliams7954 pretty sure it's yt only

[@CrYou575]

@@mandb85 Probably as it's a video. It's almost like it's an improvisation, but truly brilliant.

[@patrickquinlan3056]

That final section was written after Ren gave an interview with Knox Hill. Afterwards he realized the song was unfinished. He wrote that last section and recorded it live.

[@theoneguydaniel4634]

ong the knox interview was after sick boi released edit: nvm just checked, im a dumbass

[@Tampabman]

I’ve had severe depression and su*cidal ideation for most of my life. This song gave me the power to know that I’ll never follow through, ever. Life changing in so many ways. Great reaction 😘

[@tesskennedy4959]

TampBman As a therapist this is what I hoped for, to be close enough to heal just enough not to take tne next step. Stay safe. I find Ren has helped me heal at moments since lockdown of huge immense despair. I love Ren and I feel good I can say that, mean that and own that. Love

[@HarukaLPs]

You aren't alone fam

[@sandrag8656]

🙏💝🫂

[@deepbluehue3]

I too ... This song gave me a fresh perspective affecting that inner mantra of ' I just want to die ' ... I found myself repeating . This song was an epiphany ; really opened my eyes to the other perspective ; those left behind . Going beyond my selfish outlook and ego to a bigger picture . And realizing my existence isn't really all that bad . Life is for living .I can do this .

[@corysmith3908]

My best friend took his life by gunshot. I have so much regret because of what he was talking about and feeling. I thought I had done a good job of helping him put things in perspective but a week later it happened. It’s so sad. He felt helpless even though it wasn’t as bad as he thought it was. But I underestimated how defeated and hopeless he felt and have regretted it for two and a half years.

[@jasonremy1627]

You have to get to Chalk Outlines and How To Be Me, both duets between Ren and Chinchilla. The live versions of each are both amazing.

[@xaderalert]

💯 Both are going to be very much on point for Taylor, albeit for different reasons

[@nimajneB621]

Make sure it’s the live versions too

[@maktub8669]

@@nimajneB621!!!!

[@bped2345]

For Joe.

[@AdamBazille]

CHALK OUTLINES FOR SURE!

[@ChristopherRobertHills]

Ren has brought a whole community together through shared experiences and raw honesty, mental illness is something we need to keep talking about, acting on, improving and providing services for those of us who deal with the constant sadness, talking and breaking the stigma which still exists is so important!!,

[@namelia4439]

I think he will play a huge role in breaking that stigma…I work on it every day. Finding Ren led me to finding this entire community where it’s ok to share my pain and my experiences wo judgment and I am so grateful.

[@sarahsloan4456]

I think one of the hardest things of being a survivor is the tendency to replay EVERY conversation you had with that individual and over-analyze each sentence to look for clues you might have missed! It can drive you absolutely mad. 😞

[@kevinmundis1281]

For Joe is definitely your next song by Ren. It begins with the end of this song but carries on. It was a tribute to his friend Joe. It’s beautiful.

[@YurrNext]

This woman's empathy couldn't make her anymore beautiful. ❤

[@astonross766]

❤ thank you so much for sharing, it broke me all over again watching you experience it. Ren will likely see this

[@salishseamermaid]

Ren is a gift. The reactions and comments are a powerful form of group therapy. ❤ I'm so sorry for your loss.

[@TheFlagnard2]

My father committed suicide and I could have been a driving force to prevent it. But I didn't and my excuse at the time was because I felt like I didn't know him well enough. Now I am a father and this song hits really, really, fucking hard. In my case there wasn't a hearse because there was nobody who cared enough to be at a funeral. I should have been. I should have been there before it got to that point. Please, to whoever happens to read this...I beg you. If you know someone who could be thinking about suicide, reach out to them. Pull them close and love them. And if you are considering suicide, find someone...anyone who will care about you, and hang on to them. All that matters in this life is the people we care about.

[@PotemkinDogpack]

I agree with your plea to others to reach out. As for your story, I know it's hard to accept, but it is NOT your fault. Hindsight is 20/20, but you've got to forgive yourself.

[@tesskennedy4959]

I agree, always reach out if you’re aware or close. Maytree house in Hornsey. However it wasn’t your fault in any way whatsoever. It’s understandable that you are thinking and feeling this way but it’s not correct. If you could have you would have. A friend called me two weeks before she hung herself, I didn’t take the call as she had been quite abusive to me the last meeting we had. That’s over 20yrs ago, I had told her she would never be too much for me. But I wasn’t expecting the abuse and didn’t understand why at the time, I think I do now. We were friends, I think her girlfriend may have been unhappy about it. When it was just her and I we had brilliantly meaningful intimate conversations and laughed till we could barely breathe. Blessings to her. 💫💫💫💫💫💫💫🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍🤍❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹❤️‍🩹

[@mathewashwell1385]

Hey mate, its not your fault. As a father we learn just how much we don't know or understand, until we become a father. You can't go back in time, you can only help others learn from our mistakes so maybe they don't copy ours. Take care.

[@catsandcrafts171]

I feel for you... I think when you watch some of Ren's interviews, he talks about the process of learning to forgive himself. The force of your words make me feel as though that is a journey you must take, because as a fellow human being, you deserve more than to punish yourself for something you cannot go back and change. We do have regrets, some of us more than others, and I'm sorry for your loss and for your situation when that happened. Allow yourself to remember that you were only putting one foot in front of the other, navigating your own life, and you didn't have the benefit of hindsight then. I lost my mother when I was 24, cancer. We had 6 months knowing it was terminal and I spent almost every day with her, despite living adn working in a different city, and not driving at the time. My older sisters on the other hand, only visited once each in that period... they had busy lives and were dealing with their own individual traumas (my middle sister was battling alcoholism, and we didn't know at the time that she had a permanent driving ban for causing a serious accident whilst DUI). After my mum passed, I called them to let them know it happened, and they were both completely surprised. They both said they kept saying 'oh next weekend we'll visit'', and then 'oh, well next weekend then', and that had gone on the whole time. The always thought there was going to be more time. I know they've lived with that burden and I don't think either of them processed it. I'm writing this because I don't even want to see a random stranger on the internet go through live with the pain of past decisions, like I've watched my sisters, 30 years now since it happened. Forgive yourself, m'love. x

[@Tiger5672]

You should listen to "For Joe." Its the 2nd part of this song. Joe is Ren's friend that jumped off the bridge.

[@RxDoc2010]

I love that you pointed out how he repeats the word suicide over and over again as a slap in the face to everybody that says you can’t say suicide or talk about suicide.

[@DeuceTreyz]

Chalk Outlines (live) ft Chinchilla follow up!

[@Requiem4aDr3Am]

Powerful. Now I gotta call some friends and remind them how bright their lights are to world

[@mikegonzales4199]

If you haven't fallen completely in love with Ren yet you need to see his 1 million subscribers video. Thank you for your input.

[@nimajneB621]

This song is so powerful. I’ve listened to it so many times and sob every time. Ren’s ability to connect to harness his emotions into his art is phenomenal.

[@eterniuslol365]

The change in her reaction at 5:12 shows you what a real reaction to this music looks like. You're a real one.

[@mariogansbeke]

What amazes me the most with Ren is how he takes a heavy topic and put it on a catchy rhythm, time after time, so the music stays in your head for hours or for days and your brain is working to process, to contemplate the lyrics.

[@catsandcrafts171]

Agreed, I think a few of us have said in the past that we find ourselves humming or singing cheerfully and then realise we're singing 'su-cide su-cide su-cide' over and over, and it absolutely forces the brain to process the lyrics, expecially once you know it off by heart. I've both felt su-cidal and I've lost friends too. It's extremely powerful to have to face it but with a catchy tune. x

[@hadesrealm3502]

I will never regret not going through with my plans. This song is a poignant reminder why. I’ve been suicidal at varying points in time and severity and have lost people to suicide.

[@JulitaLena123]

After this song the best is go for song "For Joe" ❤😊 I am so sorry about your friend💔

[@PhoenixWoody]

Ren is perfect for this day and time. So many people hurt.

[@thegothfolk]

The song and the reiteration of the word suicide, always reminds me of the Mr. Rogers quote that says something like "when feelings are mentionable they're manageable."

[@SandraP3796]

A beautiful sad song. I’ve lost my Mom and best friend to S and it’s hard. I still battle with my guilt.

[@simontemplar3359]

I'm so sorry. I wish anything I could say would help. For what it's worth, I'm sending love and compassion and will pray for you.

[@francesdoll4039]

Ren lost Joe when he was 20, right as his illness was getting worse. The whole onternet cried the day it was released. The next day he had a Twitch stream to check on us and reassure us and make sure ee had resources. It turned out to be one of the very best and fun sessions ❤.

[@davidmarcus5833]

You are the One to analyse Heretic by Ren, I know hearing your insight into this song would do it justice.

[@Shadewraith0529]

You are such a kind soul. Thank you for choosing to allow the raw vulnerability. Many folks have had that feeling, and the experience of Ren in this.

[@Doolz51]

As a full grown man, 14 years past losing my friend to suicide....I have yet to listen to this song without tears pouring down my face...On the exact same line everytime. "...over that same bridge the night you jumped"

[@tesskennedy4959]

And my childhood went over in a trunk. Paraphrasing, it hits me every time.

[@jonathonkrueck4028]

Like others have said, "For Joe" is good one to do next. It's an additional gift for Joe but also impact others who has loss.

[@jaredwojciechowski5850]

Diazepam is a phenomenal Ren song. Up there with suicide...

[@rjpaquin]

The song itself, the melody, is, dare I say it, kind of a bop, right? Then the switch! I have seen this video dozens of times, and with dozens of reactors, and I have never not cried. “And I still can’t find the anger all I find is missing you.”

[@jimlimper8324]

Wow amazing reaction !! Called out the bridge from the falling through the cracks in the night sky lyrics. Well done. I think you probably have very lucky clients.

[@im2yz4u17]

Joe was his friend who committed s*icide. Watch 'Freckled Angels' which is another gift to Joe. Then 'Dominoes' which exposes self-image and the affect of societal pressure on such. Then finish with 'For Joe' which is a eulogy for Joe to his family. Many people experience all of the issues you mentioned. We just want to experience joy in music now and Ren brings that.

[@brucedanger8852]

Thank you. I haven't had a cry like that in some time. Having someone with you, even just on a youtube video was a good release that I have not had in too long.

[@christopherchamberlain]

Ren has healed me a hundred times over and I didn't even realise just how much I was broken. ❤

[@danhill954]

You need to see Dominos by ren. So impactful and relevant to curent social pressures

[@hetherpickwell5174]

It doesn't matter how many times i listen to this song...i ALWAYS cry😢

[@garretbuckmaster2524]

Thank you for having the courage to do this reaction. This must have been difficult because of your friend and your own experience. You're very strong and a inspiration for a lot of people

[@satoriivy175]

Thank you for this reaction. I lost my brother to Suicide a couple of years back. I stumbled across Ren not long after and his music helped me process my grief. This very powerful song came along later but it tore open a whole torrent of emotions for me again and continues to do so with every re-listen.

[@scottbessert5585]

I'd recommend his less known songs Crutch, Hold On, Heretic, Humble, and Genesis. Crucify Your Culture is 'the' rock anthem for this age. And for more of his fun cheeky side Right Here, Right Now and Love Music Part 4 are great. And that's just to get you started.

[@mldkenny]

Thank you for doing this one. "Chalk Outlines LIVE" and "How To Be Me " both with Chinchilla and then Chinchilla " Fingers Live for Hunger TV " are three absolute classics.

[@pabloesco2007]

This song is so powerful for him but for many of us also. He made an another one for his friend "For Joe" where he put all the pieces of songs he did for him in one, like reunited all the pieces of a puzzle for making a beautiful tribute to his friend. So powerful by so many way. Ren is a real artist and human bein.

[@Cripplified]

He legitimately ran to his friend, the 5 minute thing is something he lived. He was a few minutes too late to the bridge.

[@summittaedae2323]

I can see your light, it glows through your emotion and expression. The word suicide is blocked online because governments and media have a lot to be answerable too. RIP to all our friends 💔

[@Remmy-iq3bs]

Ren is on another level. How to be me. Is incredible as well. Not the best tune to listen too when your suffering. When no one would miss you like this

[@detruecrime2960]

Thank you sooo much for helping me discover Ren! Amazing. Also I’m in love!!

[@norwaypete]

I found ren by a friend to help me deal with the depression from losing my mom and being alone now. And this helped me show the pain i would cause those i call friends

[@FlavioHernandez1972]

Dear, I also lost friends for suicide and worst, I almost lost my life to suicide... I understand the desperation, that drove me into (almost) it and the worst of all, the impotence when received the news about someone who sucseeded, I understand your tears and thank you for being there to help saving those souls.

[@jessicalingo4346]

I absolutely love the way he did this song. He put an AI visual to this topic and left it kinda upbeat to make the subject easier to listen to, more digestible and not as scary. Then he goes into the really heavy stuff that tears you to shreds.

[@Myfairmaiden]

You just can't not cry at this❤

[@mhouze3]

I lost my best friend to suicide too. Very powerful song.

[@alanmai5656]

btw if you dont want to do the follow up try Seven Sins he sings and raps PAIN so well makes me cry everytime, hugs all around

[@1938superman]

I've been chronically depressed and inactively suicidal for decades. I hit every emotional step on the way down through this song too. You should watch his Chalk Outlines performance with Chinchilla too. Also, One More Light by Linkin Park is amazing too. Btw ... thank you for the way you talk about suicide. So many people are afraid to. It makes us feel unseen. Thank you for seeing it differently.

[@torstenjosephkartelmeyer4623]

So many reactions I´ve seen to this song to only get clicks... You understood and felt.... I´ve lost tghree close friends... I´ve gone through so many therapies...

[@Syzygy77]

Yeah it’s rough. Two of my siblings decided to make an exit, and a handful of my friends passed by drug overdose.

[@TheColdrush22]

I honestly can't believe that YOU didn't say the word instead of "unalive." I hate that word so much. Thank you!

[@andrewdavidson665]

When you say about the destigmatisation! Absolutely! I hate that people get all 'ick' about the word. Those who need to hear it, NEED TO HEAR IT.

[@Steven90108Runs]

Loving the reactions. Insomnia, Dominoes and Dear God are also some good songs by Ren touching on some mental health issues and struggles.

[@TheDude3007-dd7fg]

🙏🏻 RIP JOE 🙏🏻.. follow uo with ..For Joe , How To Be Me & Freckled Angels . ✌🏻 peace & love ❤

[@lowwatthalo1654]

Every bit as raw as NF 'How could you leave us' - the domino effect & emotional tsunami from anger to guilt and all the rest in between.

[@seagull01-cp8pb]

Excellent work spotting the two perspectives in this song. The first of people considering suicide and second of losing someone to suicide.💕👍💕

[@benballard-ho7tu]

This one always hits hard, deep and raw. It's pretty much one of a very few songs that will instantly reduce me to tears every time. I have the Sick Boi album on my phone and I'll skip this song when listening to it out and about, not because I don't like the song, but because I don't want to end up a gibbering wreck in the street. Ren resonates with me on multiple levels, but this one especially more so. I apologise now if this triggers people, but I'm hoping it will help, so I'll share this with you and people reading and commenting _deep breath_ ..... I too lost a close friend to suicide years ago. His name was Les, although we all called him muppet because he was so animatedly funny and had us all in stitches, no matter what the situation, no matter what was going on in our lives. One of our crew got sent down for murder and it broke him (it broke me too). Muppet was so distraught he couldn't do anything to save our friend from going to prison for weeks afterwards, that he changed. Then one day he just simply vanished and no one could find him. We reported it to the cops 24hrs after he couldn't be found at home or anywhere else we hung out, so they started searching for him. 72hrs after he'd been officially logged as missing I went for a walk with muppet's dog (Berkeley, that was the sense of humour Les had) as no one was really looking after him and Berkeley was also beginning to miss Muppet. I don't know what it was or the reason why, but I took him down some abandoned local railway tracks so he could be let off the lead and have a run (he didn't like other dogs). We got a little way in to the tracks, which were now overgrown and a nice tree lined area. A beautiful place to walk down or just sit and be. So I lit a spliff and went to let Berkley off the lead. Suddenly he took off and damn near wrenched my arm out of its socket. All I could do was hold on to the lead and run after him. Berkley ran straight to a very tall tree and stopped at the bottom, whining and whimpering. He sat down and wouldn't move, no matter how much I shouted at him. He was just staring and barking at the tree. I thought maybe he'd scented a squirrel because they were his favourite things to chase (and never catch). So I kept quiet, listening for the sounds of claws on the bark. Nothing. So I looked at the tree and seeing there was nothing there, I looked round the back side of the tree. That's when I saw them. A pair of Timberland boots. They were Muppet's, I could tell by the scuff marks on the toes. They were about 8ft off the deck. It turns out that he'd hanged himself from one of the branches wearing his favourite boots and one of our friend's hoodies that he'd borrowed, so he could be near him all the time he was in prison. I had to cut him down and call the police, not what I should have done, in hindsight, but I couldn't just leave him there like that. I don't know how long I sat there with him, it felt like an eternity until the cops turned up. It still feels like an eternity now. August this year will be thirty years since it happened. I'm 48 now and it's still as raw as if it had happened yesterday. I miss that damn muppet and his infectious smile and laugh, I wish he could be around still to meet my two young lads, he'd have been an epic Uncle to them. So every time I hear this track by Ren I get to bawling my eyes out. I'm having trouble seeing through the tears as I type this now. I know EXACTLY what Ren has been through with Joe and is still going through to this very day. My advice? Be strong brothers, call, shout, talk, holler, scream - say fcking something to someone. There IS life beyond the point you're at now, no matter HOW bad you think it is in the moment, it's thousands of times better further on down the road. But you've *GOT* to take that first STEP, because "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step" Chapter 64 of the Dao De Jing. Laozi - Chinese philosopher. I've been struggling myself with some mental health issues (not suicidal ones, my kids need me to be around) and I've recently taken the first step and joined my local men's mental wellbeing group. I've always been fiercely independent to the stubborn point of "I'll sort this out myself, no one else should do it." With this though, I feel that I'm in new undiscovered territory and it's not something I can do myself. Asking doesn't cost you anything, if anything it saves you lots. It also saves everyone else around you the heartbreak Ren writes about in this song. Please do yourself and everyone else around you a favour - find someone who CAN help you.

[@kennethalvarez3485]

This song just ripped the scabs off of an old wound. The last time I talked to my friend Bugsy we had a debate over the song Turn the Page because I was listening to the Metallica version. His cousin knocked on my door a week after Christmas to tell me Bugsy overdosed on vodka and pain killers. I still miss him.

[@TrianglesAndCircles]

Brilliant reaction to another great one by the great one we call Ren.

[@Reacts2Reacts]

The talent behind being able to take something so personal and being able to turn it into a way so many people can relate to is amazing. Ren is definitely another lvl musician 🎶

[@huskyrider2]

It's hard to put on words how the way you talked about this really inspires.

[@user-ss8ex5zy2k]

Ya. That 2nd half does it to me every time. Condolences on your loss.

[@ldjl3322]

You, dear lady, are beautiful. Love watch you break down Ren.

[@TheRealRobM]

So glad you've discovered Ren and are moving outside of your standard reaction genres. Subbed to follow along with your journey down the rabbit hole. So many layers, so many levels, so much talent.

[@Turntablist_Mk2]

This is his gift, real conversations.

[@jeffwilson3205]

It is a gift. Ren is breaking all the rules about what music is in 2024. I’d love to watch you watch his 1M subscribers video. It will confirm that he is everything that you hope he js. His real suffering has created a human with so much empathy, wisdom, and understanding. 🖤

[@dropbarracuda]

You really, really should check out "For Joe" soon. Even if just for yourself. Its an extension of the last part of this, and Ren carries it through to a healthy place. As profound and important as this video is, it leaves a gaping hole of hurt deep inside. Please, for yourself, the channel, or both: check out For Joe. ❤🙏🏻

[@serendipitish]

This! Please watch "For Joe" soon.

[@ireladdy]

@HeartSupport I was having a really rough time with my depression yesterday. I felt very down, but part of my depression is that I can't seem to experience emotions strongly, either high or low, and I often wish I could. Seeing you experience this song so strongly actually allowed me to cry and get that emotional release, which helped tremendously. Keep up the great work. As a side note, a lot of Beartooth's recent stuff has had some really positive mental health messages, you should check out Riptide and Think I Might Love Myself.

[@stephenengle9982]

I would love to see your reaction to Ren's "crutch" it one of his best over looked songs

[@toniyoung5131]

I've just come here from a reaction to Crutch by theguywithabow. I had recommended Crutch to him as his explanations and breakdowns of Ren's songs are SO interesting and informative.

[@seagull01-cp8pb]

@@toniyoung5131- yes! Thatguywithabow has some amazing insights into Ren’s music. He needs more subs. Crutch and SickBoi are 2 of his best.💕👍🦇

[@JamieR]

Impossible to listen to Sui!cide and not sob. Every time it grabs you right in the heart and squeezes. Thank you for being so raw, sharing your wisdom and experience with us, Taylor. I've been severely chronically ill for 15 years now and have felt the urge to end it all multiple times as I was in so much pain and nobody could help me. It's been a lonely road and in some ways I've lost a big part of myself and my youth. This song has been instrumental in changing my perspective.

[@WilliamRapier]

your reaction made me want to come through the screen and comfort you :(

[@lisayoung4987]

Ren gives the ultimate gift and teaches us is UNDERSTANDING 💖 this was about his Friend Joe as Ren was 2 minutes away from the bridge and couldn't save him.

[@thomasbuchser7695]

The guilt Ren has on this episode has to be even greater, since he was with his friend on the phone, sprinting his life to get to the bridge in time, but was too late. Love and support on this man, really

[@housey_]

I don't think this is quite correct, Joe had called their mutual friend Ella who then called Ren to him Joe was on the Bridge. Ren had tried calling Joe while he was on the way there but never managed to get through to him

[@thomasbuchser7695]

@@housey_ oh you're right my bad

[@russellhutchison7811]

Thank you for sharing your reaction. I've watched Ren: Hi Ren a hundred times, but I've been worried about watching some of his other songs. Listening to them alone would be more then I could take. It's good to cry together, even though we've never met.

[@shieskaclow4872]

People need to hear this so they know this is all they leave behind... you just rip yourselves out of life and leave nothing but bitterness and sadness in the ones who loved you. It just creates more pain. Seek help. Because it's definitely worth it to try.

[@Spotastic9]

As someone who has gone through suicidal ideations multiple times, this isn't the right approach. This isn't about other people. It's about knowing that you are not alone. It's about being able to find support. It's about feeling that YOU are safe to be yourself. It's not about who we leave behind. They don't matter once we're gone.

[@staceyjayneplatt9527]

@@Spotastic9Absolutely 🙏🙏🇬🇧🇺🇸❤️❤️

[@darkcircle899]

@HeartSupport - Music to Improve Your mindset This song was a lot for me personally. I watched my mom struggle with mental health from the time I was 7 all the way up until she ultimately died by suicide when I was 20. When I first heard it and the song got to the outro I just started crying. The way that he perfectly articulated the whirlwind of emotions that I went through when it happened was almost scarry. I've never felt so seen and like someone out there just gets it. I'm still struggling a little over 2 years after my mom died but things like this make it just a little bit easier. I'm so glad I came to this reaction as well because you also understand and your reaction again made me feel seen and finally convicted me to get some therapy I don't really know where to start but I'm ready to start trying to heal at least some. Ever since my mom died my life has been kind of down hill but over the past month I've been trying to get back up and this song and reaction could not have come at a better time. Thank you for the video and for sharing your story as well. edit: (same day) I actually went to your website and signed up to get a mentor I'm really glad I found your channel hopefully this is the start of something good. I know it probably won't happen but I hope I get you :)

[@sandrag8656]

Your reaction touches me very deep. My husband and father comitted suicide. You described all the feelings so well. Thank you. ❤❤

[@AChickAndADuck]

I lost a very close friend to suicide. The feelings are real.

[@gregoryjasongranado5248]

You need to react to more of Ren's music

[@Lladra]

Thank you so much for sharing. Seriously, thank you.

[@Rottiedad_og]

Ren is a wordsmith a lyrical genius. His words made me feel feelings I'd buried long ago. I don't burden others with my issues. We are men it's what we taught from a young age I don't know any other way.

[@user-ro8qq7nx3t]

Now, you gotta do FOR JOE.👍🍀

[@silentwhisp4r670]

Powerful reaction and insights!

[@gracesprocket7340]

He redoes the ending segment in a longer form 'For Joe'. Crutch (fy Bibi) is a very powerful video too. Chalk Outlines (x Chinchilla - live) and How to be me (x Chinchilla) are must-listens. The tale of Jenny and Screech (trilogy), followed by 'Instagam stories - Screech') are a evocative piece of bardic art.

[@GreenLanternSuperman]

Thank you so much for this reaction. It was great to see a therapist's take on it. This song had me bawling the first few times I listened. It's one of my favorite songs by Ren. I lost my brother in 2021 to suicide. He was 46 and I was 45. I still have times when I am caught unaware by a random event or song or scene in a show, and I start crying. This song and watching reactions to it has helped me a lot.

[@rw9019]

I tear up every time.

[@alexklarin]

Check out Ren - Depression, its a really powerful song!

[@cameronb851]

Great reaction. Ren's music is amazingly raw and it was beautiful to see your visceral response.

[@bazm2024]

This song helped me reach out and talk, if its OK for Ren to cry and be upset its OK for me. It seems such a simple thing now but it was a massive thing to open up about my pain at the time. I love your reactions ❤❤❤❤

[@deanharper9249]

Thankyou so much. Your passionate explanation of why this is so powerful had me crying again, feeling even more understood than before.

[@M0S3ST0NE]

I'm crying with you, a thousand times. Out in the open, freed emotion to share with others, whom are in a lost space, not able to know how to share within, or know how to reach out for guidance on the SUC!DE Topic. Ren does that, touching people through his own experiences. Such a brave avenue to take through his creative ability through Music. Mindblowing ! R E N N L O N E V E

[@MogzysTunes]

hey, i'm sorry about your friend. I lost one last december to this and i resonate with what you say. I think it's beautiful that it pushed you to become a therapist, that means you don't want anyone else to go through what you did, and that made me tear up. Amazing reaction, keep doing what you are doing, and I hope you are okay. And anyone reading this, if you feel like giving up and you cant find a reason to stay, just try and hold onto the fact that leaving will pass what you feel to everyone you love with a dose of guilt. I love you all