HEIGHT SENSOR & RAIN SENSOR Replacement on the CHEAPEST 4.4 TDV8 Range Rover L322 in the UK!

[@SamsMotors]

Last week we hit an amazing 10,000 subscribers! So I want to say a big thankyou to everyone for subscribing and also to all the lovely comments that you leave. It really means a lot! There's absolutely loads of content in the pipeline (Range Rover, Esarco, and the return of the Cummins 130), and I'm planning a tool giveaway soon, so if you haven't already, subscribe so you don't miss out! Cheers, Sam

[@tomsmith6741]

Like your style Sam, keep up the good work 👍🏻

[@grantmckendry3323]

Looking forward to them all Sam, especially the Cummins 130 update.

[@MrWillskater]

The frustration of doing loads of work and yet the fault remains! One of the reasons I like your videos is that you show your work even with the fails, which really helps other people with diagnostics. Nicely done.

[@SamsMotors]

Thanks! Yeah as I think I said in a previous video, the last thing I want to do is sugar coat the ownership experience, so you guys will see everything that happens - good and bad.

[@aqibfreed4672]

Nice video ! Not sure if you had already done so but it’s important to raise the suspension to its highest setting ( if possible ) and then to disconnect the battery. Sometimes when replacing these height sensors when the battery is connected could immediately cause the car to adjust its height which could be hazardous

[@willshaughnessy8515]

Just had a rr height sensor failure at 4.8volt..Frayed wiring ..that was found by my dongle and app So while waiting on my harness...time for a transfer box service and rear brake as well .. Then a rear bumper replace.. Then sew new leather in door armrests It's a labor of love ..like drums.

[@LionTheHeart]

Like the way everything clicks into place.. so satisfying to hear that sound! Cheers Sam

[@Bensgarage]

The excellent iid tool! Mine always shows audio faults when it all appears to work.

[@neilsimmons7950]

Thanks. Nice video. Now I know how the replace height and rain sensors on the L322.

[@TheAudirob]

Great video. Got a front one to change on mine. Can they be replaced whilst the wheel is on? And if not, do you lock the suspension before jacking it up?

[@davem991]

Awesome videos Sam! I've just bought my second post-facelift L322 and, like you, I'm working through its many minor glitches. Can you please provide a link to the supplier of your gel pad? I haven't found one on eBay that fits well, and when I tried to cut a larger one down to size I got ragged edges and it didn't stick properly.

[@pad3357]

So hope you find the answer to this, I’ve got a Disco4, the ride is rock hard!! Any bump in the road is like landing a Boeing 747. Characteristics are strange, it still ‘floats’ down the road but any slight road imperfection it thuds throughout the car. I’ve got a set of 19”s going on this weekend to see if it helps, if not my local Indy has said to replace all 4 airbags and struts (these are one unit on d4 rather than separate items) hoping you can find a quick fix 😂

[@AndyK.1]

You really should drive with your center display set to 4x4. It tells you when the suspension has reached height and can show you when height sensors are failing by the wheels bouncing up and down or red bars. I appreciate the you’re having a problem with a different system though.

[@SamsMotors]

I didn't realise you could see when sensors are failing - I'll definitely give that a look next time I'm out in her. Cheers!

[@lukeybabes1]

I just fixed the wiring splice for the rain sensor on mine. Mine also has the faults with the 2 speakers as well. Apparently its common for those faults where there is nothing wrong

[@youthedaddy]

Where is the problem with the wiring splice exactly please? I have a similar issue

[@lukeybabes1]

@@youthedaddy Under the drivers side sill cover on the floor a red and green wire if i remember correctly

[@frankbovens7436]

great video , but please check that air bag , it seems like somebody tried to close a leak and they didn't do a great job haha. i am afraid under pressure while offroading this will be a weak piont. keep on making these great video's i surely enjoy watching them.

[@antking8847]

Sam - great info again. Grab yourself a can of electrical contact cleaner - always worth a squirt when undoing old connections. Cheers

[@SamsMotors]

Definitely, will try and remember next time. Cheers!

[@user-yk7vz7vj9u.JamesS]

Hi Sam. I have a 2010 L322 41k miles 3.6TD V8 diesel I bought 7 months ago. I’m the 2nd owner, enjoying the car and previously had a P38 I’m liking your videos and I’m keen to buy an IID diagnostic tool. I’ve currently got a an intermittent restricted performance warning. Where did you buy your unit from? Thanks James.

[@MrSunnyBhoy]

You're killing it mate. Great editing skills and I'm not a range rover man but I watch your content because you're a nice, hard working guy and it's nice to see you fix all these issues. You'll keep that range going for 500k I've no doubt! Hit up a another youtuber I really like: High Peak Autos, I told him to look you up as he has a range too and was looking for some ideas.

[@SamsMotors]

Hi mate, thankyou for that lovely comment, it really makes all the difference! I watch High Peak too and love his videos. It'd be cool if he watches any of my stuff! Cheers and speak soon, Sam

[@MrSunnyBhoy]

@@SamsMotors he should be :) keep up the great work. Always look forward to your content.

[@Kevmac332]

Hi Sam, having watched someone else with a newer model land rover with a speaker fault... it came up as a all terrain module fault... hope this helps 🙏

[@ZIPTRAVELS]

Before reinstalling all covers, you should test the u it in case o failure and having to disassemble all over. Nice video

[@thecapetana2980]

What a legend! It was so funny when you said it didn’t work 😂

[@_the_dare_devil_]

This year I bought an L322 5.0 2010, imported from USA. So far managed to fix dozens of issues, most of them were wiring issues - including cut fibre optics (MOST). Working on Range Rovers is FUN...NOT! :D

[@tuningemporium]

may be change the OSR height sensor too? (thinking change in pairs) great video mate :)

[@jamest5149]

Love the ‘hand of god’ iID plug 👍 They are good and technical support and service from GAP in Canada has been awesome 👏

[@SamsMotors]

Haha, I thought it deserved a good intro. It's a beast of a tool!

[@RevLexus]

Another interesting development, thanks for making this video. I am enjoying your ongoing time with the RR.

[@SamsMotors]

Put you off RR ownership yet? 😋

[@RevLexus]

@@SamsMotors Not yet!! I have enough troubles with my SC 430 at the moment hehe

[@TheDoc-j6g]

Love the videos.....I too have malfunctioning rain and light sensors, but you didn't specify how yours were failing. Is it, like mine, whereby when the auto lights are switched to "auto", they come on whatever the ambient light OR is it that when they are switched to auto, they don't come on at all even at night? Likewise, my wipers when switched to auto will wipe the screen whether there is rain / water present or not, as opposed to simply not wiping ever, if on "Auto". I am trying a new self adhesive pad first as mine is patchy / cloudy and was clearly not changed when Autoglass replaced the cracked windscreen! I figure that as there are 2 sensors in the unit, it is unlikely that BOTH have failed. However if that doesn't fix it, it looks like it's out with the drivers seat to check those 4 wires. If it was the wires going open circuit, I think this would mean that the sensors work by INHIBITING the lights / wipers in the absence of darkness / rain and allow the circuits to function ONLY when the ambient light drops low and or rain starts........... Does this logic follow? Would there be anything to differentiate between a failed sensor unit and the 4 wires fault?

[@SamsMotors]

99% sure it’ll be the splice. When the rain sensor is inop, it defaults to normal intermittent wipers.

[@TheDoc-j6g]

Yes that's what mine is doing - regular intermittent wipe according to the rotational speed controller, whether it's raining or not. The auto headlight setting is lights on all the time - bright sun or pitch black.

[@SamsMotors]

@@TheDoc-j6g yep, it’s a fail safe mode. Have a look at that loom under the floor board.

[@youthedaddy]

@@SamsMotors Do you happen to have any further detail on where exactly the fault is and where to look? I have the same issue but no idea where to look for the loom. Ta!

[@SamsMotors]

@@youthedaddy Take up the aluminium sill plate in the driver's door opening, then peel back the carpet a bit. You should see a thick loom of about 100 wires running along the floor/sill. Unwrap some of the loom tape and separate the loom and you should find a few wires (red/green I believe) that have come detached from a corroded splice. You just need to reconnect them all together and the sensor should come back to life. You can check my new seats/interior video to see how I found and fixed it. Cheers!

[@kevinabalo]

That height sensor fought me against coming off .. the ferrules were spinning in the plastic. My Ancell (they're not bad) codereader told me to change it. Fixed. I can see why there are so many negative comments on these cars on here; people who've no mechanical ability/experience are going to pay out ££££ dearly every time.

[@neilwhite8131]

Good to see you finally got the IID , did you decide your original diagnostics was not up to scratch?

[@SamsMotors]

SDD (the JLR software I have on my laptop) is the more powerful of the two. However, it's nice to be able to just leave the IID in the Rangie and have it whenever it's needed, without the need for my laptop and cable etc.

[@simonpitcher1177]

Hi Sam. Your Channel is great. I think i may have the same rain sensor issue. please show us how you solve the problem. Good Luck !

[@SamsMotors]

Will do Simon, should be sorting it this weekend!

[@martinw419]

Great stuff love the music at the end 🤣

[@jellmers]

Great video.... Very interested in the rain sensor as I mine has stopped working, but can I ask what symptoms you had?? My wiper stalk still works, but first position is now intermittent and not auto... Is that the same? Can I ask where you found the wiring fault and I will look there first.

[@SamsMotors]

Yes that’s the same symptoms I had. The wiring fault was found under the driver’s side sill/carpet, and I’d be 90% sure yours will be the same problem. I rectified the wiring problem in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYi8lKuLm9KgkJY

[@jellmers]

@@SamsMotors Great, thank you for the note and replying so quickly.... Do you think that the only want to get to that part of the loom is having the seat out or at least rocked back with the bolts out? I am wondering if I would be able to get under the carpet without such a drastic disassembly..... Interesting that I had the rear door card off over the weekend as the switch had been pushed in since purchase and just got around to fixing it..... Also had the rear camera 'blue screen' issue... That just needed the spoiler being unbolted and a lot of wiggling of joints.... Guessing it was a slight corrosion issue... Definitely with you that if you are not scared of a spanner then the L322 is a remarkable bit of engineering...

[@SamsMotors]

@@jellmers no need for seat out, it’s just under the tread plate basically.

[@jellmers]

@@SamsMotors You're a star thanks....

[@jellmers]

You sir were bang on the money.... Thanks... Decided to try and tackle getting at the loom just now... Without taking the carpet up it is a struggle, but it can be done... Getting the cover plate off is the hardest part to be fair... Need to take out the trim surrounding the bonnet release and then have a fight to get the plastic cover slide out at a lather odd angle.... Anyway. Bit if digging around I found the red and green wires (for those having similar issues, they are spliced closer to the seat than the peddles.... They were taped (as factory) but when I gave the tape a tug they came away with visible signs of corrosion... So cut back the wire a little, stripped them, and then joined them using one of those little heat shrink solder doobries you can join wires with using a lighter.... I think the solder should minimise the risk of corrosion in the future and the heat shrink is glued. I couldn't be bothered to drag my solder station to the drive.... Anyway. All working..... Must admit that I also found the bundle of red and orange wires (7 or 8 of them) that were also spliced in the same way which I also treated to a new join, given the one taped, was looking decidedly dodgy, although I have no idea what those ones do.... As with all these things putting it back together was a much more simple task. One thing I did try and focus on is positioning all the spliced wires on top the bundle, so there is less likelihood of those sitting in any moisture. Thanks again

[@tinyloughlin]

I had a similar problem with mine where a duff wire that goes into the top of the front RH suspension under the heavy duty metal cap (located under the bonnet) Just a cut and crimp job had her floating along again.

[@deutsche_lyrik]

What I have learned or can see from your videos is that your Range Rover is no longer the cheapest Range Rover, since you meticulously exchange everything that can only be exchanged. In the meantime, your Range Rover should be quite expensive to very expensive, just from the amount of work and the hours sunk for repairs, video and editing. I bought my Ranger Rover L322 / M62B44 (2003) 6 years ago, 6000€, 210,000km. From time to time he sees an oil change and that's about it. I don't even pay attention to the colorful lights in the display anymore, because I've learned that it's just prone to the smallest electronic errors, basically it just keeps running and running and running.... meanwhile 315,000 km on the clock😂 However, your videos are very good for other RR drivers with problems, no question. Still, you're paying a lot of tuition for.. ------------------------------- Was ich inzwischen aus deinen Videos gelernt habe oder ersehen kann ist, dass dein Range Rover schon lange nicht mehr der günstigste Range Rover ist, da du penibel alles tauschst, was nur zu tauschen geht. Inzwischen sollte dein Range Rover sogar schon recht kostspielig bis sehr teuer sein, alleine schon vom Arbeitsaufwand und den versenkten Stunden für Reparatur, Video und Schnitt. Ich habe meinen Ranger Rover L322 / M62B44 (2003) vor 6Jahren gekauft, 6000€, 210.000km. Der sieht ab und an mal einen Ölwechsel und das war es aber auch schon. Die bunten Lichter im Display beachte ich gar nicht mehr, da ich gelernt habe, dass der einfach anfällig ist für kleinste elektronische Fehler, im Grunde aner lauft und läuft und läuft.... inzwischen 315.000km auf der Uhr😂 Deine Videos sind allerdings für andere RR-Fahrer mit Problemen sehr gut, keine Frage👌🏻🙏🏻. Dennoch zahlst du da eine Menge Lehrgeld für👈🏻

[@SamsMotors]

It depends on your perspective... I don't count the time and effort repairing and making videos as I enjoy it as a hobby. Therefore, it's free to me. The parts themselves are usually purchased as cheaply as possible (take my A/C compressor as an example - I paid only £150 for it as opposed to £450 direct from LR). Considering that a lot of these repairs would have to be done on every Range Rover (not just mine), my total outlay is probably still less than the majority of 4.4 TDV8 owners after 1 year.

[@AelxeyPavlenko]

Try calibrating accelerometers through SDD, helped me with ride softness and cornering

[@SamsMotors]

I've tried this a few times with SDD and IID, without any success sadly.

[@egecandir8301]

great videos, i own a 2012 4.4tdv8 l322 too. i recently had problems with the auto headlights. they dont switch off even in a sunny day. do you know where the sensor is located ? or is it the same sensor as the rain sensor?

[@SamsMotors]

Thanks 🙏 the sensor is indeed combined with the rain sensor on the windscreen. Have you got any codes relating to communication with the rain sensor? If so it could be the same problem I had with mine (damaged wiring splice under the carpet).

[@SamsMotors]

If your rain sensor works ok, it may also be that the car is set up (coded) to run the headlights all day. If you have an IID tool you can alter this in the CCF.

[@WiesławStróżyk]

hello Sam - have you replaced it on OEM, OE or some china part? i have the same issue (part: lr023651) with height sensor, but i lost my patience for waiting for a part. I ordered it 7 weeks ago through LR parts shop in Poland, but there is lack on stock. So, now i started looking for some aftermarket part or let's say not OE/OEM, but i am not sure about its quality. Or maybe you got some sources where I can find it available ;) thanks!

[@davidissitt7718]

Had the same problem was a chaffed wire near the battery a common fault took my mechanic 30 mins to repair solder and shrink stuff Good luck David in Somerset

[@SamsMotors]

Yeah that'll be the damper wires on the front struts. Mines had the repair done both sides already, but it'd probably be worth me checking them and redoing.

[@willhelme6508]

Have you got a link for the ddi?

[@pas7272]

Just looking at using the same company you did for the latest purchase, hope I get something as good

[@SamsMotors]

Good luck!

[@paoloroberts6451]

Loving your films!!! I'm collect my first l322 in about a week. 11 plate vogue. Does yours have timed climate?

[@SamsMotors]

Congratulations on the purchase! Yes it does, I've been using it most mornings to preheat the car recently. Great feature!

[@jordanskinner2105]

I said a height sensor lol! wish it solved your issue mate, never simple with these! hopefully you sort it!

[@garrykennedy5484]

Don't know if you have any insight, but when I got my 06 RR SC, it was on its bump stops. Someone had driven it like that and the front right strut, if you pull the rubber cap off under the hood, sits 1 inch higher than the left one. So much that the cap won't go all the way back on. I imagine the banging on the bump stops rammed the strut so hard, it slipped in its housing a little? So when it is sitting on the bump stops, the front right of the vehicle sits an inch lower now. Now I reset the codes, and got the air suspension working again by replacing the relay in the back. After that, I did the turn steering wheel full left and right to reset the system. But somewhere during this process, the sensors got calibrated sitting on the bump stops with the front left being 1 inch lower. My question is, do you know what I did to trigger it to calibrate? I don't have a diagnostic tool other than the typical OBDII tool. So I couldn't have triggered the calibration on purpose.

[@ابنالجزيره-ب8ط]

Cool job! I suggest youd check the rear bushings on lower control arms as they usually wear out over time! Cheers 👍

[@SamsMotors]

Yep, it has the characteristic squeak from the back end, too! So they'll want doing sooner or later.

[@ابنالجزيره-ب8ط]

@@SamsMotors Definitely mate!, i have 2004 RR HSE and yes it does that squeak noise while i drive on some rough bumps roads, ay you keep up the good stuff man 🤟

[@astront917]

nice chirpy birds to keep you company !

[@SamsMotors]

They certainly do... In the evenings they never shut up!

[@jon81crowe]

Be interesting to see what you can do in the car config menu items IID

[@SamsMotors]

Yeah, I might do a full video on it. It's very full featured!

[@j-bolo6637]

Is the IID Tool specific to land rover?

[@DJGamesHD]

Great video Sam. Are you a mechanic? You seem to be very knowledgeable

[@SamsMotors]

Cheers Dan! No, I'm not a mechanic . I did a degree in automotive engineering though and I work as a development engineer. I like to put out informational content!

[@ernbauti]

Hi, can you list the odbc Bluetooth connector and software you are using, thanks

[@SamsMotors]

Hi, it's the GAP IID Tool BT.

[@SortItOotMan]

5:32 background is that your neighbour leaving home in their F1 car or what?

[@SamsMotors]

Yeah, he's always popping to the shops in that bloody thing 😂 Seriously though I think it was a V10 Lambo or Audi of some kind, and with the footage sped up it does sound a bit F1 like!

[@MrSunnyBhoy]

My i30N doesn't sound too dissimilar lol

[@jackmillin]

Have you drove another range rover that's the same year and spec just to clarify you definitely have an issue and it's not just how they are, or is it really obvious there's an issue?

[@flemmingranch8777]

Nice job and a good informative video…….

[@liamcinq]

Observations: - pleasantly surprised some of these bolts aren't just shearing but I suppose it's life has been in a warmer part of the UK. Are these heights sensors also used for headlight levelling? F1 practice in the background? Digital dash? How much was the height sensor? I guess you could be holding back for a how much update later though.

[@SamsMotors]

Yep, everything I've taken off so far has been OK rust-wise. It's only just turned 10 years old after all - but yeah it lived down in Sussex for most of its life. Headlight levelling is done via the air suspension system keeping the whole car level - it doesn't adjust the headlights per se, so yes I suppose they are levelled via the ride height sensors. Height sensor was about £60.

[@liamcinq]

@@SamsMotorsa different world for a 10 yo FFRR that's lived its life in Scotland.

[@eizuke1309]

My Range Rover hse 2007 having problems with my front passenger suspension, it lower than other side about 2-4cm, and I 4x4 info that side also unstable sometimes it show very high and low, and sometimes the info that show is different from real. Example the front suspension passenger side is the same height as driver side, but the info showing it not the same height. It also have air suspension indicators and and say suspension fault. My special program and suspension control are also off, I Lower and rising it by my key. I want to ask you that can be the front sensor? I already check the air system but seems not one leak. ( suspension, air compressor(leak in the past but it got fix now) valve block ,air spring, air line, ride height sensor ) the front passenger ride height sensor not broken but when I push it buy my hand it seems like a-bit weird from other side. Can you give me some advice?

[@Roughneck765]

Name every bird chirp in the vid lol. Good vids and worth watching. Bought myself 2004 v8 after watching your vids. you gave me confidence in Range Rover

[@SamsMotors]

Noisy little buggers! Hopefully it's not too distracting on the video 😅

[@antking8847]

Also - if you do a calibration - can you video it! Good luck - hope you get it sorted.

[@SamsMotors]

I filmed the first calibration I did (see the 2nd episode I uploaded on the Range Rover) but I will definitely film the next time too.

[@mrjono999]

Little bit of copper grease on those wheel nuts would be spot on. :-)

[@zonta71]

I have watched some of your range rover videos and am subscribing just to see what a money pit its going to turn out to be. I hope am wrong. And thank you for the videos.

[@SamsMotors]

Haha thanks. Yes, I think that's what a lot of folks are subscribed for :D

[@angusnz7910]

God I loved driving my old wagon. Started with P38, right through to your 4.4TD model. Gave up on them when I got older and constant faulting became an irritant and no longer fun (yes, I did used to enjoy getting hands dirty). Went Touareg V8 tdi and to be honest in everyday life it’s more capable, without getting under it once a month to fix it. Nope it hasn’t the same graceful feeling behind the wheel, but I reached the age where that mattered less then reliability

[@SamsMotors]

It's important to remember that the V8 TDI 2nd generation Touareg is a generation newer than the L322 (2010 vs 2002). Capability wise though, the L322 probably still has the edge in terms of off road ability, and there's no comparison in the classiness department.

[@ROGEXTREME]

Great video👍

[@healysprojects4052]

Have you considered it's something mechanical? Poly bushes fitted in the suspension arms can attribute a stiff ride: and I'm sure you've seen the post on arms on the FB group with the variances between rubber stiffness on the suspension bushes.

[@SamsMotors]

It has crossed my mind - but the strange thing about it is if the Rangie has been parked for a couple of days, the first few minutes of the drive it behaves impeccably! But then the ride gradually gets stiffer and bumpier after a couple of miles. So that's why I think it's something electronic.

[@healysprojects4052]

I wouldn't rule anything out with these things 😂 it does sound like the electric dampening playing up- but it could be the rubble is becoming supple with not impact so is much smoother after being inactive a few days. I did see something about an upper mount control the other day in the dreaded rear arches- could be something to do with that or I could be talking nonsense (as it was a background watch)

[@jamest5149]

Looks like a halfords socket set to me 🧐👍

[@SamsMotors]

Certainly is! Good kit for the money!

[@antking8847]

begs the question - if the sensor is that well glued to the screen, why the fixing clips lol

[@AndyK.1]

I thought the height sensor wiring was under the car along the chassis. I could be wrong on that model

[@SamsMotors]

Think you're right. The module is in the rear right corner of the car too, so I presume the rear sensors just run straight over to it.

[@waynemcwagon4286]

You ever have a problem with it getting fuel and starting but not actually running.

[@SamsMotors]

No I haven't - are you having this issue?

[@BillyWhizz68]

Thanks

[@BillyWhizz68]

Thanks Sam - had a ride height error code, used my Gap IID to find which one had the issue, swapped the height sensor out - all in less that 45 mins :-). Thanks for the video, made me realise it was something I could tackle and the video showed me how to do it 🙂

[@SamsMotors]

Cheers for the tip!! That’s awesome, glad you managed to sort it yourself. That’s the whole gist of my channel is to get folks to have a go themselves, so that’s great.

[@Valisk]

Unlucky! Made for a great ending though!

[@devil2005iscool]

The upgraded camera for your car is this specific model : www.luxurylandroverupgrades.com/product-page/upgraded-adjustable-2009-2011-l322-range-rover-adjustable-camera

[@Fosgen]

Whenever you set out to do something, something else must be done first.

[@rasmusericsson8447]

Press mute on the birds!!!!

[@elpelucaxd8067]

GTA san ? Offroad

[@Mark-dm2mb]

Just typical ..... you think you’ve got it tracked down and then after you’ve treated it to some new bits the bloody thing still wont work.

[@solomonkutesa4275]

😅ahh haa haha

[@ryanwilliams170]

Excellent video…!! Keep it up.

[@SamsMotors]

Thanks, will do!