Heilige Scheiße!! \\ Neumann NDH30 Just Destroyed My Expectations

[@IllKeepALightOn]

I don’t know what this guy is talking about but he’s so passionate about it that it’s highly entertaining.

[@David-fo6oy]

Ahhh! I miss reviews like this. Seriously, it’s reviews like this one that make you as a reviewer unique and great!

[@gamerzentertainment9610]

the way Zeos slaps the table at 6:58 and makes the headphones jump is just hilarious.

[@pongmaster123]

yeah maybe hilarious for a couch potato

[@BB69175]

The cable being on the right is actually great for us who make music and turn ourselves to the left to reach gear. No cable crossing over my body.

[@techmed-rainer]

Danke!

[@LBJedi]

Thanks for the fantastically informative reviews Z! I was looking at these for mixing/mastering. I don’t have the space for studio monitors right now, so I need a pair of really top notch open-backs. If you don’t thinks these are right for this task, what would you recommend in a similar price point?

[@ZReviews]

The DT1990 were that for me

[@thefritz1]

Actually the closed-back NDH 20 is internally balanced as well: if you manage to fit a very, very slim and long 4-pol 2.5mm plug in it, the NDH20 pin-layout is TRRS = L+, R+, L- , R-. The negative connections are fully separated unless you use the (standard) 2.5mm TRS plugs where L- and R- are connected by the plug (S).

[@SKY11211213]

I cant remember but ---- but would it be possible to use NDH30 cables to do balanced or wasnt the driver not balanced but the jack is. I can not recall that one british headphone shop which does beyer mods. He did take one apart to see if he could do a quick bucks or whether it is to time consuming to offer balanced mods.

[@thefritz1]

I am not aware of „that british shop“ but the left and right drivers of the NDH20 are completely separated and the internal 2.5mm socket is a 4pol socket; i.e. the headphone is balanced. To my knowledge there are no commercially available symmetrical cables for the NDH20 or 30. I had to remove most of the plastic/rubber parts of a 2.5mm 4pol cable plug and to solder a XLR plug on the other end to make it work.

[@nayuki2020]

does this mean you can fit NDH30's cable inside NDH20 and it will still work normally?

[@thefritz1]

I am not sure since Z reports mono sound when swaping his cable. But those shops which offer the 4pol "Neumann Symmetrical Cable for NDH 30" (e.g. musix - just a google result) list them as "Suitable for all NDH headphones."(!) Those cables are however not available currently and only "internally symmetric" (i.e. 4 separate wires throughout the cable up to the SE 6.3mm plug at the end). In the worst case one would have to solder an 4pol XLR (or 4.4mm) plug to that end with a different wiring scheme.

[@patrick4158]

@@nayuki2020 Yes. Tested and confirmed. Both are internally wired the same way as described by @Thomas Fritz. The "Sleeve" of the NDH-20's TRS connector touches both grounds internally. A cable using the appropriate TRRS connector, that is wired in the correct configuration will allow either the NDH-20 and NDH-30 to be run balanced.

[@conradwinchester1]

I bought these because I love my ndh-20's in the studio. I love these even more. I use them for listening to music too, they are so much fun - which I have never said about studio headphones before!

[@austinh863]

Dude, I love the energy! I can hear the pure energy and love you have for high quality sound. It's inspiring!

[@phoenixvette]

I just got these and they're amazing, but I did find that it's important to make sure the cups are centered on your ears. The back of your ears should touch the cushion. Its like suddenly standing in the perfect spot at a concert.

[@Level7Beats]

Where did you purchase yous from? I'm having an entirely different experience with these.

[@danny_munoz]

I have the same experience with the NDH-20s.They sounds incredible only If the back of my ears are touching the cushions. Any other position results in a horrible muffled sound.

[@techmed-rainer]

I got the NDH30s about a week ago and I'm similarly impressed like you, @Z Reviews!

[@RYTHMICRIOT]

I've owned Sennheiser 6 series, a handful of hifiman, Grado, AKG, a bunch of chifi iem's, all the popular over ear bluetooth offerings from Beats, Sennheiser, Boae and Sony, wireless earbuds from Bose, JBL and the NDH-20. I've sold and given away many of them. The only one I refuse to part with is my NDH-20.

[@rumporridge1]

Huge endorsement brother

[@GLUE4UANDME]

I'm sold now. I mean i have been having eargasms since getting the NDH20's a couple years ago...and you can EQ those to do f*cking AMAZEBALLS things ... even if you're a basshead. You can crank the bass and be in warmy basshead heaven and yet still enjoy all the detail and highs. So now i am excited all over again and saving me pesos. Thanks Zeos...you bastard.

[@Capybara0726]

Thanks for the review. Nice choice of music at 30:50 :)

[@CrossEyes79]

That was the coolest, funniest most entertaning review ever, subbed

[@jodiac]

I’ve been waiting for this review for AGES, you talk sooo much about these!!!

[@zenboy863]

I'm sorry Zeos but for $649 I'm just not willing to put up with headphone that has issues with eat comforter.

[@DNGR369]

Yeah I don't buy a car unless it wipes my bum for me..

[@dancegod1691]

@@DNGR369 It’s a joke

[@OdesiusKrosa]

@@DNGR369 True but would you buy a car you could only stand to drive for thirty minutes because the seat was so uncomfortable? Same thing

[@haroldcavanaugh2130]

Tackstar pro82 that’s comfort

[@9877joseph]

@@DNGR369 HA!

[@panzeri209]

"Fool! German headphones are world's greatest" Very proud German audio soldier

[@surdzo]

Neumann NDH20 is one of the best CB headphones I’ve ever heard, don’t know about ndh30 maybe they will be my next headphones but I was hesitating to purchase ndh20 just because all those BS graphs popped out on the net. When I put them on I was shocked, best sounding closed back headphone under 3000usd PERIOD. After purchasing NDH20 I’ll never give a sh.t anymore about any “professional”, “audiophile”, “competent reviewer” or whoever measure anything because that doesn’t mean sh.t until you hear the fu.kig can.

[@g.o.9513]

Wow, do you recommend them for production?

[@surdzo]

@@g.o.9513 I can’t your answer question because I’m not producing or mastering music I just enjoy music in its purest form without wearing pink glasses while doing that. When I occasionally do I put IE600 in my ears and enjoy different kind of sensation. If you’re skier you will know what I’m talking about and this hobby is very similar. You can’t expect buying one set which is going to do it all (there no such thing and will never be) so you have to purchase at least few to enjoy it big time. Cheers 🍻

[@iClevre]

This is in my top ten favorite headphone reviews of all time.

[@digitalnation2876]

Great !!! Much love from Kudus, Indonesia, 💕

[@ilyatovbin6676]

"What's it called when people are just peasants on the street?" Very fitting sentence on a $700 headphone review.

[@datdudeinred]

I hope sennheiser hd8dj come back. That was some of the best built headphones.

[@kjmusic2541]

Lots of mixing and mastering pro's are saying the NDH30's are even better than the NDH20's for mixing and mastering, because the bass translates better than with the DNH20's.

[@xselfcreative]

So for work NDH20s still rocks. Good to know bec. I trust and get along with NDH20s.

[@ubacow7109]

I'm surprised that nobody else is covering these still

[@veritas7010]

Spare yourself trouble I tried them irl they aren't worth it

[@ubacow7109]

@@veritas7010 I actually did end up trying a set i really liked it

[@Fanboy34671]

Did my man just say "you could do the whole lips that grip thing"? 😂😂😂

[@ethr95awd]

german jumping headphoens 6:57

[@DNGR369]

Zeos how much noise leak/bleed do these open-backs have? Wondering how much one could get away with if used as daily drivers

[@rullkino]

Judging by background image, i see a man of culture as well. 🙇 Subscribed by 10 sec off video

[@andretadeu7859]

this driver position is tricky to get a perfect center image. and the frequency response will vary depending on the position of the headphones at your head. Is not difficult, you just can't throw it at your head, rsrs. A little EQ (not more than 2db) will be perfect for mix and master, trust me.

[@wsakundi]

The driver position is very tricky (at first at least for me) to figure out and the response does vary greatly which really concerned me when they arrived. Not sure if the reviewer mentioned this but it's actually a bit of a problem especially since the intended purpose is mixing/reference. I also found them a little light in the high end and added a 2.5 dB high-shelf at around 2kHz to remedy that. I think your points are important and valid and I'm glad I'm not the only one to experience this. Otherwise, great headphones, very similar to their KH line of monitors (which I was pretty sceptical about initially).

[@Raiskauskone]

I just got them and can confirm. The sound changes A LOT depending on how you wear them.

[@auxtone1332]

@@Raiskauskone not good

[@Raiskauskone]

@@auxtone1332 idk I haven't found it that problematic.

[@redeyeflightcontrol3605]

I actually flipped the L/R sides on my AKG K553's when I converted them to TRRS 3.5 balanced. I disliked that the can cups laid against my collarbone when worn temporarily on neck between uses, as they opened upwards. I swapped the LR driver connections and the pads. The AKG cable jack now exits on the right, and the 553's lay pad-side against my collar. IMO Neumann got this right, as they are already set up to lay against a person vs a surface. I put mine to my neck far more often than down, especially if I wear them out. I really love that the NDH series cans are set up like this.

[@Raiskauskone]

These with the zen can bass boost are so hilarious. The bass of some tracks makes you laugh maniacally.

[@soulfulfool]

funny bass?

[@Raiskauskone]

@@soulfulfoolhilarious

[@soulfulfool]

@@Raiskauskone new audiophile term "hilarious bass"

[@berdesjoeden]

Heilige Scheiße!! haha... der perfekte titel

[@massivebeatzz]

Ja ..hab ich mir auch gedacht...

[@mrcoffeebone2279]

Kann ich so bestätigen

[@GentleBones1]

I swore the last time I looked up these headphones from your channel there was a sound demo.

[@RyanHarris77]

The NDH 20 pads did wonders for my hemorrhoids.

[@HobbyTalk]

I love your humor 😂🤣

[@murraywebster1228]

With regard to right side cable, most mixing desks have the headphone socket on the right hand side of the desk….professional headphones after all…..

[@JohnMarshall-NI]

Did you ever figure out who made those replacement ear pads that worked with the NDH20s? I got a pair recently, and the ear pads are not great, and also there is way too much low end. Wondering if replacing the ear pads could help? Cheers!

[@AntarcticGuitarEnthusiast]

FYI I have been using Brainwavz Headphone Memory Foam Earpads - XL Size - PU Leather (Various Colours) Dark Red on my NDH-20’s since January 2021 really great and comfortable, they have become my day time working cans. the black ear comforters look great too. As for pleasure listening, I am very pleased with Audeze LCD-XC with Babinga wood cups also for mixing and mastering my recordings. The LCD-XC’s are the best yet. Peace and Maximum Respect

[@geracervantes2362]

how's the sound change with those pads?

[@AntarcticGuitarEnthusiast]

@@geracervantes2362 They still tell the truth about the mix. Nothing is over accentuated or hyped. Now they are extremily comfortable. The pads that come with the NDH-20s I never used for more than a moment as they were so uncomfortable, hard and did not go around my ears. The headphones are great, they just need the right pads. Peace and Maximum Respect

[@geracervantes2362]

@@AntarcticGuitarEnthusiast just got my pair of pads, and i'm wanna tank you so much for the recommendation. As you said the sound is almost unaltered. The only noticeable difference is that now i need to turn the volume a little bit more to keep the same listening levels. Again thank you so much.

[@AntarcticGuitarEnthusiast]

@@geracervantes2362 Nice one. Just my 2 cents. My pleasure.

[@grant0317]

Hi, just wanted to check up on your replacement pads for the ndh 20. Just to double check, did you get the XL size pads or the round pads? I ask because on the brainwavz site, they list the ndh 20 being compatible with the round pads (100mm outer, 55mm inner) but not on the list for XL size pads (110mm outer, 65mm inner). And lastly if you did indeed get the XL size pads, how is the fit? Is the fit snug into the "lip" part of the headphones? Thanks in advance!

[@halbrakt3457]

I bought these because of you and I love them, all they needed was a little EQ and it's by far the best headphones I've ever owned.

[@Raiskauskone]

Got them today and just out of curiosity, how did you EQ them and what did it do to the sound? I find them very interesting and (mostly) enjoyable to listen to but mainly on my tube amp (bottlehead crack with speedball). On my solid state they sometimes are a bit too honest which makes them fatiguing on some not so well mastered songs.

[@halbrakt3457]

@@Raiskauskone I just increased the bass, lowered the mids and increased the highs to make the headset more "punchy" so to say, noting major just a db here or there.

[@annekedebruyn7797]

1:07 Sennheiser only sold their consumer side to focus on their professional side. Neumann is part of the professional side of Sennheiser so you are 100% right!

[@Muirtone]

Now that my NDH20 pads need replacement, I can not find your recommended replacement, please advise.

[@psysword]

It's a pain to replace

[@g.o.9513]

GOD, I regret buying $400 Dr Dre Beats. Please help me get these NDH headphones, Amen!

[@E_o_D]

I would love if someone like Hart Audio could make a custom balanced cable for these. Even without that, I might consider getting a pair for work.

[@patrick4158]

A quick Google search found a balanced cable for them.

[@TheMixClub]

So Im getting ready to pick a set up tonight of the NDH 30s. I had the NDH20s and loved them. I traded the for cash and some HD-650s. and i miss the NDH20s but something 4k bugged me. I always feel this way with closed back. Hope this is a good move and im sure it will be.. thanks for the vid... enjoyed..

[@_chiaki_nanami_]

How did it go?

[@AusOpening]

how does it compare to the 650?

[@veritas7010]

@@_chiaki_nanami_ I got mines today they f**** suck. Esp given the price. I would price these with .4 factor. Like beyerdynamic dt 900s or something

[@_chiaki_nanami_]

@@veritas7010 very unfortunate given that they legitimately look like great headphones (stylishly) with a lot of engineering for the build.

[@CarlosPerezFilms]

Thanks for the great review. Would you know how they'd stack up to the Focal Clears? I know they are massively different in price, but i am actually between them for mixing/mastering.

[@GalaxiusPilgrim]

petition to start calling all earpads "eat comforters" now

[@victorZztop]

today is about the nuemann 300 wherever the f*uck, tomorrow will be another best Headphone ever, link is in the description.

[@ZReviews]

I mean I don't do bulk headphones.. And ask anyone who knows the NDH20.. These were the ones to look out for.

[@maegnificant]

@@ZReviews i think he's trying to imply yoi are biased because you want to make a cut of fhe sales link or sth.

[@TheMetaldudeX]

That means we will be getting an open back nth-100 at some point, right?

[@masterxyr]

38 mm is most watches' smallest size. But it's what you can do with it that makes the musical juice flow (absolutely, by no means is there a profoundly and obscuredly hidden second meaning here). I wonder if you presented us with the unboxings before the main channel review, wouldn't seriously boost the former without particularly affecting the latter. fodder for thought

[@frankiehands]

I have Neumann KH-120 with the matching sub, but use DT 990 pro for headphones and you just sold me on these. Thank you for this in depth review man!

[@jewski_boi]

What sub do you use?

[@frankiehands]

@@jewski_boi KH750. The matching sub.

[@zerolight9420]

I'm looking for a pair of headphones that work for monitoring as I play guitar, but also sound great for just enjoying music, gaming, etc. The HD600s didn't work for me. The Aeon X (open and closed) weren't it either - I don't think planars respond to guitar all that well, at least playing one. I'm tempted with the NDH 30, but I'm also being tempted with the Hemp or RS2X too. I think it needs to be these though - but I remember Grado's being kinda Live sounding, which I enjoyed with the RS1i years ago, if a little bright.

[@ezrashanti]

If you're recording acoustic guitar you 100% need closed back like ndh20.

[@Therapyxx]

@@ezrashanti for what sense exactly closed?

[@ezrashanti]

@@Therapyxx you don't want the sound of your previous tracks or guitar bleeding back into the microphone by coming out the sides of the open back headphones

[@momchilatanasoff7456]

Thank you very much :)

[@FrankNobelMusic]

How does these compete with the Audeze series?

[@ScottGrammer]

AKG is a world-famous maker of SOTA studio mics, and they've made headphones for at least 50 years....

[@nicokrug94]

Thanks for the review

[@adambrown8867]

AKG is a very old microphone company.

[@CodeVenomSnakes]

truth and correct.

[@dennisk415]

This or the focal clear og?

[@gregorio98000]

Well I’m sold 😂

[@JayDpwnz]

For mixing and mastering, is there any reason not to get the sennheiser HD560s

[@odkKoma]

Resolution, separation, layering, soundstage… far from studio speakers

[@JayDpwnz]

@@odkKoma well I was not talking about speakers. In a studio environment you'll work with both studio monitors and headphones.

[@ConnorHammond]

Do the Doug score thing, ya slippery gypsy! Become the drama-queen of the headphone world (more so). PS. Brilliant review. You are fantastically unique and funny, as a reviewer, and it's a real pleasure listening to you. Real pleasure..

[@phonomat1587]

I like to imagine this post read out loud in a really drunk voice. Reeaally drunk.

[@gorditosanchez3059]

HD 630 VB* (variable bass), were supposed to be for mobile use, thats why the wire is on the right.

[@bojanpounarov2561]

I am looking for a Headphone just for fun listening to music an casual gaming. Should I get the NDH 30 or the Dan Clark Aeon 2 Noire?

[@maegnificant]

Bought them right now, gonna test them in two weeks.

[@MegaFlackFerry]

Did you test them with Sonarworks too?

[@maegnificant]

@@MegaFlackFerry no, what's that?

[@MegaFlackFerry]

@@maegnificant a Software for Headphones/Speaker Calibration

[@maegnificant]

@@MegaFlackFerry why would i need that though?

[@MegaFlackFerry]

@@maegnificant I just want to know if someone tested the NDH 30 Calibration profile and how the improvement is.

[@J.M.81]

Got a pair of these 2 days ago for 548,- Euros new :) you just have to search the Internet :) - I have and am used to my KH310s and working with these is pretty familiar from the beginning... I feel that they work great for editing Voices etc... maybe I will order the DT 1990 Pro as well the next week to do an A/B

[@x-techgaming]

Better than XS and Modhouse T60RP, at least..?

[@NosEL34]

I really need a new pair of headphones, and to hear Zeos excitement I'm super interested...but that cord seems like it will be a real pain in the ass at some point. Why did they make them like that???

[@alex.muntean]

I just love them too.

[@johnratcliffe6438]

WTF is sub-bass? You chaps are talking another language 🤣

[@J.M.81]

Same here.. but in my first week with the NDH30 :) - did a Mix / Camera Voice Edit today and double checked with my 310's from time to time ... sounded pretty nice on my Speakers so I guess it's absolutely possible to get great results (even on the highs) when you are used to your Headphones after a few weeks/months... I find the sound on the NDH pretty familiar to what I am used of my 310s...

[@petarsekulic7464]

Just wanted to share, i'm using sennheiser hd25 for last 10 years and i got used to them just because i'm djing, and i was in shopping for 1990s so i've watched pretty much every clip that existed about them (and yours), just for the comparison on the 1990s on this clip it is unwathchable it's very hard on the "s" when you speak, then i switch to the hd25 and it's like chill wouldn't notice, and that's also in production when i mix and i just render it to test it on the 25s, just make it a little bit not harsh and i'ts just perfect and it's too easy...just wanted to share that i know it's not for comparison but it's new to me, i bought them 2 days ago

[@sentientsickness]

I wounder if these are still his go to reference phones

[@rnd815]

NDH 30 are the best bang-for-buck headphones on the market. But they are not your everyday headphones, practice is in the studio, mixing and mastering.

[@masterxyr]

Since I'm already spamming the comment section anyway (praise the algorithm) what's an upgrade to the M1060c opened modded which keeps the bass' slam but has more detail and more soundstage? cheerios!!

[@artureff3046]

the cable problem looks similar to Sony MDR-MV1 one [I've bought a generic balanced 4.4mm to 3.5mm online from Ch**a and the smaller jack seems to be thin and long enough to fit, some $40]

[@arrowzen7433]

Oh, the never ending cable circus. They better sound really fucking good for me to wanna deal with that stupidity…

[@thesaint7380]

would have loved to hear more about the comparison to the DT 1990...unfortunately somehow you got distracted by yourself 😅 cheers from germany !

[@ZReviews]

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[@adam99x2004]

hey Z, are these headphones retarded? if so... i may purchase them.

[@KeZs0]

NDH30 better headphones than kennerton rognir? Can you explain your thoughts please?

[@MAK8299]

they look like harmonicdyne zeus's evil twin

[@chivaguoriginal]

Dude, you’re hilarious 😅

[@flagoman]

another one to buy, thanks Zgod

[@janmonert4976]

What amp is this you are using here? the big shiny silver one it looks amazing!

[@B2Rockin]

Zeos do you enjoy music on the NDH30’s more than the Arya Stealth or LCD-X?

[@anabain]

NDH30 are for working. Forget about the "audiophilia" thing. I own them.

[@GLUE4UANDME]

I've tried a few different makes of earpads now...and gone back to the stock Neumann pads. Clearly Neumann knows what they are doing when it comes to what pads provide the best sound signature with their cans. Everything else i've tried can get "close" but still sounds pretty crappy in comparison to the stock pads. I imagine the NDH30 pads will work just fine on the NDH20's ...if you feel like shelling out the $69.00 for them. Some things are best left alone. 🙂

[@garymorrison1009]

Iv’e had these cans for 2 days. They do sound good but honestly I think there’s some hype going on here. I also have some high quality IEM’s that actually were more than these open back phones by N, and well … there isn’t much difference. I have cheaper AKG’s as well that surprisingly give these Neumann’s a run for their money. … I’m probably going to return these NDH’s and spend my hard earned casholla on some other much needed pro recording gear …

[@JACKnJESUS]

For the coin...I would have liked to have a balanced output option via double cord. Nice though.

[@miagi1337]

Self made polish Pierogi

[@samuelforbes8774]

I'm not sure if this is a fair comparison, but what about these vs. the Mod House T60 Argons?

[@ZReviews]

Two Juggernauts fighting to the death.

[@NosEL34]

I see ridiculous reviews on Amazon like that all the time..blows my mind 😂

[@masterxyr]

the ability to write is not proportional to the wisdom of the letters spewed off those fingertips...

[@NosEL34]

@@masterxyr I've never heard that...but it sounds absolutely magnificent

[@RiverSongMusic]

This only goes for forty minutes. It only takes 17 minutes to discover which side the cord goes into. After that it all starts sounding like Charlie Brown's teacher.

[@y.k.9705]

Very good salesman

[@nicokrug94]

What are the pads now for the 20’a u wanted to tell us

[@bstatmeister]

Does this beat the DT-1990 Pro in every category?

[@ZReviews]

Hard to say without the 1990's here.

[@bstatmeister]

@@ZReviews one last thing...does this have fantastic Soundstage?

[@g.o.9513]

Hi Z Reviews. which version is best for producing and mastering?

[@veritas7010]

Don't use them trust me you will end up compensating so much for lost highs all your mixes will be screeching on consumer systems

[@g.o.9513]

Don't use both versions of the headphones is what it sounds like you're saying. Is this true? @@veritas7010

[@regardtvandermerwe2675]

German accent was hilarious

[@DNGR369]

Zeos flipping out about the length of the pin connector tells me he hasn't dealt with the lowly reference ATH-M50X anytime recently haha

[@darrellross8609]

I ffffed up and have perfect headphones. BALANCED TYGR's with the Dakoni pads.( Byerdinamic video) and a pure copper xlr cable. I have you to Thank. Again thank you.

[@vendasiax666x8]

Got them for 500€. It's a very good deal for headphones that sound that good. But someonne can clearly see where all the money went for these. Clearly not transportation bags or extra cables.

[@jamestimmons6022]

hey Z,would you buy these over the Gold Planar GL2000's?

[@ZReviews]

Yes mostly because build and weight and I know the germans are gonna build consistently.

[@garygrant2000]

I recently brought the Neumann NDH 20. I'm looking for a good case for them, any recommendations?

[@MRFUTURETECHNOLOGYGAMING]

Finally it's been out awhile

[@ZReviews]

Had to make the decision to buy