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@skullbroski19 күн бұрын
The greatest irony of this is a game based entirely around satirical democracy is being killed by a dictatorship
@Spubbily0119 күн бұрын
Art imitates life imitates art
@pyerack19 күн бұрын
Corporatocracy* but might as well be the same thing.
@madarah853319 күн бұрын
Companies are inherently authoritarian and they certainly act like it
@PingasFumberto19 күн бұрын
@@madarah8533Marxist detected 🤢🤢🤮
@schmorgus459219 күн бұрын
Can someone explain why this is such a huge deal? Like I genuinely don't understand why so many people have their panties in a twist. Grounded and minecraft force you to log into a Microsoft account, rdr2 and gta5 require a Rockstar account to play online, an I believe hound you over and over if you want to play singleplayer. While I generally dislike the practice, it's been going on for well over 10 years, and just now are people complaining
@eternallyd3d19 күн бұрын
Someone left this steam review that sums up this whole conundrum: “I was so busy having fun that I forgot about corporate greed for a moment.” Nice going Sony. Edit 1: As of May 6, Sony announced on their official twitter that they’re back peddling on the PSN requirement and not moving forward. Great job all around for the fans; the outcry against dictatorship has come in clutch and turned the tables.
@fluffly893519 күн бұрын
Wait till you find out every other company does this
@apkeggs740119 күн бұрын
@@fluffly8935 literally who? Who else has let you not use an account for 3 months and then suddenly you have to use it
@ZoeyL4d219 күн бұрын
@@apkeggs7401 Gears 5 on steam does this and i can name about 30 more
@exanthus913119 күн бұрын
@@apkeggs7401 Microsoft with minecraft, anything else?
@Whenwhereeverywhere19 күн бұрын
@@fluffly8935no, nobody else does this
@SmonkTheGreat18 күн бұрын
GOOD NEWS, as of this morning they backpedaled the PSN requirement. More communities need to get together and demand higher quality games.
@plmokm3317 күн бұрын
People still can't access it in the disabled countries so the main issue hasn't been fixed.
@SeanUCF17 күн бұрын
PlayStation network required tag is still up on Steam. They haven't backpedaled shit.
@lifeiscats133717 күн бұрын
4 hours after you typed that, he uploaded a video on it lol.
@snowman188617 күн бұрын
Call of Duty, all EA games, and all Ubisoft games
@maddlarkin17 күн бұрын
In cooperate terms it was a pretty strong statement and given it came so quickly on Monday morning I suspect there was some significant legal exposure, thata probably why I would guess Steam took down the Helldivers 2 page in countries without PSN to limit their liability, I'd guess it's staying that way till they have confirmation from Sony that this won't be revisited before re-enabling it and making any alterations to the Steam page, that'll likely take longer for an agreed wording both are happy with (or at least can live with) What worries me a little more is the 'other systems' they will be exploring for banning players and moderating as from what I saw the community team was a little to excited to get access to PC users and start banning without going through Steam, hopefully nothing will be workable and they'll just have to live with going through Steam, but I can see something in game your obliged to sign up to so we'll have to keep an eye out for that. Way I see it, this is a win, a big one, but we'll need to be wary going foward
@xPASTY18 күн бұрын
Update: Sony has walked back their goofball decision.
@Brad-lt2re17 күн бұрын
Nope
@EdwardoNuttbuster17 күн бұрын
@@Brad-lt2rewhat? Did you even care to see or did you decide to just go on the first thing you heard and forgot the concept of time and thing changing over time
@BulletSponge7143617 күн бұрын
@@EdwardoNuttbuster The only thing left is to give us back the ability to buy the game in all of those 177 blocked countries...
@ragedits_13 күн бұрын
@@EdwardoNuttbusterI heard they tricked everyone
@EdwardoNuttbuster13 күн бұрын
@@ragedits_ I haven’t heard anything other than them going back
@dizzyhq510019 күн бұрын
The helldivers issue just underscores that idea that it can take a lifetime to build a reputation and only a moment to ruin it
@DontReadMyProfilePicture10219 күн бұрын
*Don’t read my name….* 👑
@Sirdilophosaurusthethird2.019 күн бұрын
@@DontReadMyProfilePicture102 nerd
@Sirdilophosaurusthethird2.019 күн бұрын
@@DontReadMyProfilePicture102 nerd
19 күн бұрын
penguinz0?! More like poopooz0! I make better content..
@ZoeyL4d219 күн бұрын
They didn’t really ruin anything at the end of the day people are still going to buy games and consoles lol i’m not siding with them but this is stupid
@cosmic763919 күн бұрын
"We had a good thing Walt...and you had to go and fuck it up"
19 күн бұрын
penguinz0?! More like poopooz0! I make better content..
@Aredel19 күн бұрын
“You, and your pride and your ego!”
@crisscross284419 күн бұрын
The bots are hungry today it seems…
@OogaBooga2472319 күн бұрын
Holy bots Batman!
@BiGayguy19 күн бұрын
@@OogaBooga24723 Cleaned it up a bit.
@ChillavaKirby17 күн бұрын
“They were able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory” is such an incredible line lmfaaaooo
@porkymonk906518 күн бұрын
We won… WE WON! Sony has caved and taken away the PSN requirement
@davidsprott321617 күн бұрын
fr?
@yankee6617 күн бұрын
@@davidsprott3216 yep
@JudgementalWaterfoul17 күн бұрын
@yankee66 that may be the case but they blocked the game for purchase in those 170+ countries.
@vex_milky17 күн бұрын
a rare W for consumers
@fleurala17 күн бұрын
Can't believe they would even try that bs??
@jaidenm646419 күн бұрын
Sony shits the bed what a surprise
@Unusual_Danger19 күн бұрын
I did too
@DontReadMyProfilePicture10219 күн бұрын
*Don’t read my name….* 👑
@Sirdilophosaurusthethird2.019 күн бұрын
@@UTTPofficerRonnieMcfloydnerd
@ChocolateEffigy19 күн бұрын
Still best in the game
@Sirdilophosaurusthethird2.019 күн бұрын
@@DontReadMyProfilePicture102 nerd
@CopperLoveAndKisses19 күн бұрын
Sony’s got the ball, Sony’s got the ball, he’s gonna dunk, he’s gonna dunk! Aaand he completely fucking missed.
@redrad420519 күн бұрын
yall are just throwing a trantrum the only reason u didn't have to was because the servers couldn't take it and they said u WILL NEED IT DAY 1 ITS ON THE STEAM PAGE SINCE DAY 1
@bruhyoulowontime900919 күн бұрын
@@redrad4205 Sony said it themselves it wasn’t required for the longest time they are only doing this shit now to boost their active player numbers up
@goldsteins781919 күн бұрын
@@redrad4205 They literally changed the ToS of PSN linking from Optional to Required? What are you getting from licking a corporate boot, wth. If you don't have any issues then go enjoy the game, let those that have problems complain, tf.
@lostcause400219 күн бұрын
@@redrad4205 except it allowed people to play the game without it. They took that freedom away and are now suffering the consequence. You can let them push you around but others aren't.
@TheonetruedogTheDog19 күн бұрын
They didn't just completely miss, they somehow slammed the ball into their own goddamn hoop
@Merica178916 күн бұрын
I love that by the time most of these videos went up, super earth fought back and won
@GG07ghostКүн бұрын
Still baned from 180 countries
@NBaker19718 күн бұрын
I wonder if the game devs could sue Sony for this. That would be pretty groundbreaking
@redcobra124615 күн бұрын
That'd be amazing but considering Sony funds their game seems very risky and burns that bridge from future games.
@RyanYewell19 күн бұрын
I live in Rwanda, gifted Helldivers 2 to my friend at launch, in a month it will be a digital paperweight. So stupid.
@npcimknot95819 күн бұрын
What’s f up is.. it really is an attack on countires that aren’t “ first first first’ world. So that kinda racist..
@SleepLessThan319 күн бұрын
Apparently steam is giving refunds regardless of hours played
@nirolf1219 күн бұрын
You may be able to get a refund from Steam
@tempname826319 күн бұрын
@@SleepLessThan3 Do gifts have refunds?
@TheTuttle9919 күн бұрын
Yup as others have said, steam is honouring refunds for those in countries affected
@SilverPhoenix_18 күн бұрын
As of 28 minutes ago Sony posted on Twitter: “Helldivers fans -- we’ve heard your feedback on the Helldivers 2 account linking update. The May 6 update, which would have required Steam and PlayStation Network account linking for new players and for current players beginning May 30, will not be moving forward. We’re still learning what is best for PC players and your feedback has been invaluable. Thanks again for your continued support of Helldivers 2 and we’ll keep you updated on future plans.”
@spongegobler344918 күн бұрын
That’s either amazing new or you’re an S-Tier gaslighter
@blue8953818 күн бұрын
@@spongegobler3449its true
@benjohnson262418 күн бұрын
Managed Democracy triumphs once more. For Super Earth!
@darkassassin645718 күн бұрын
can confirm, its on the playstation twitter. hope they do follow through with this
@MurkTheCreator18 күн бұрын
can confirm Super Earth is safe
@He11raiser0118 күн бұрын
9:05 "Huffing moron potions" Potion sella! I am going into battle with the gaming community, and I need your STRONGEST potions!
@mikelord939 күн бұрын
"GET YOUR MORON POTION, GETYOUR MORON POTION. WE HAVE 3 FOR THE PRICE OF 4 AND 10 FOR THE PRICE OF 12. HUFF THIS AND EVERYONE AROUND YOU STARTS LOOKING LIKE CASHCOW MORONS." (Disclaimer: Moron potion (TM) doesn't make you smart. Moron potion (TM) only makes you think you are a genius. Use only as a means to boost confidence in dire, lifethreatning circumstances)
@mikelord939 күн бұрын
"GET YOUR MOR0N POTION, GET YOUR MOR0N POTION! 3 FOR THE PRICE OF 4 AND 10 FOR THE PRICE OF 12! MAKE EVERYONE AROUND YOU SOUND LIKE MOR0NS WITH A SINGLE HUFF" Disclaimer: Mor0n potion (TM) doesn't make you smart. Mor0n potion (TM) only makes you think you are a genius. Only consume for boosting confidence in life threatning situations. Prolonged use might affect motor and executive functions. Not suitable for children and pregnant women.
@mikelord939 күн бұрын
Omfg, youtube bots won't let me post my hillarious comment
@mikelord939 күн бұрын
Pretendint to be an ambulant potion seller and giving a disclaimer at the end. It was perfect
@stupidnormie712118 күн бұрын
They supposedly are walking back
@mrmeow343319 күн бұрын
I can't imagine how Arrowhead is feeling about Sony screwing up 7 years worth of work on the game.
@Aredel19 күн бұрын
Probably feeling like Microsoft ain’t such a bad idea
@ButteryEvolution.19 күн бұрын
@@AredelYeah, but they're owned by Sony, so they've effectively just been impaled and left to die.
@ProtocolAbyss19 күн бұрын
@@ButteryEvolution.hot by an arrow you could say?
@claudioaberrocales692819 күн бұрын
9. 9 years man
@apkeggs740119 күн бұрын
@@ProtocolAbyssnah, arrowhead had nothing to do with this decision
@theunprofessionallurker19 күн бұрын
"I am altering the TOS. Pray I don't alter it any further." - Sony probably
@CBRN-11519 күн бұрын
This
@reinn-df2ti19 күн бұрын
hahaha
@birdmonster11519 күн бұрын
😂😂
@candidklutz505619 күн бұрын
they didnt alter it. the devs knew 6 months before launch that it would be mandatory. they had absolutely no reason to allow people to skip signing into psn for 3 months, yet they did. as much as sony sucks, this one is entirely on arrowhead
@user-vd5uq4uc9b19 күн бұрын
Wherez my x wing?
@DanTheMan-ck4vh18 күн бұрын
THEY ROLLED IT BACK!!!
@Lightingstreak18 күн бұрын
What’s funny is they could have got a majority of the playerbase to link an account easily by making it have a cosmetic incentive. So if you linked ur account you would get an exclusive set or something that way people who have accounts are more inclined to do it and people who don’t don’t have to
@Dwayne_LaFontant19 күн бұрын
Congratulations. You managed to remove yourself from 90% of all markets. Well done Sony. Edit: they decided they actually like money and reverted the change. And I thought this big business hated money for a second.
@AzparoGuardian19 күн бұрын
I wouldn't say 90%, it's more like 35-40% from country that can't make psn account. And maybe 20-30% more from people boycotting
@thereprehensible43519 күн бұрын
177 regions man.
@kiraj918619 күн бұрын
Yea, most of Europe and Americas is only 10% market
@alexanderforrest198319 күн бұрын
@@AzparoGuardian55-70% removal of plays is still very bad.
@CrimStarGaming19 күн бұрын
The player count is still around 100k after the 177 region removal.
@SadlySully19 күн бұрын
I feel bad for the devs, Sony really shot them in the foot.
@DontReadMyProfilePicture10219 күн бұрын
*Don’t read my name….* 👑
@bugz117619 күн бұрын
Their community manager didn't help....
@michaeldeaton19 күн бұрын
Devs made the agreement, knew 6 months ago about this. Y'all got played.
@ZoeyL4d219 күн бұрын
They knew about this like 6-8 months ago they didn’t shoot anyone in the foot
@wahttehfuk19 күн бұрын
Nah. They agreed to it to begin with, purposefully hid it from consumers, and then tried to blame Sony at the end of it all. They knew the entire time, and chose not to say anything about it. The devs are just as bad - if not worse.
@ThatNinjaLowkey18 күн бұрын
So for a proper update for my patriotic brothers, we beat sony✊🏽
@brus695018 күн бұрын
It took Charlie to make an video for Sony to backdown.. the power of black shirt lol
@davidnedved378119 күн бұрын
poopsicle
@cornpop83819 күн бұрын
Yall sound so corny saying words like heartbreaking lmao.
@JacobHilmoe-xg4dl19 күн бұрын
@@cornpop838 yeah god forbid someone wants to play a video game they like
@cheeseburgerhotdogman336419 күн бұрын
@@cornpop838corn is in yo name bruh
@cornpop83819 күн бұрын
@@JacobHilmoe-xg4dl being “heartbroken” over not being able to play a game they like is extremely juvenile and like i said, corny.
@Dandoskyballer19 күн бұрын
Get a refund is the answer they're looking for, and the answer he doesn't want to give.
@MongoTarzan19 күн бұрын
Sony "try not to ruin a great game with corporate greed" challenge (difficulty: impossible)
@loyaljokster337118 күн бұрын
Difficultly: Helldiver
@Arxy1218 күн бұрын
It’s not even corporate greed since they make money off steam purchase anyways
@MamaMia14518 күн бұрын
@@Arxy12do not act like Sony isn't greedy
@Bruh-bp6nn18 күн бұрын
@@MamaMia145they’re not
@chrisjohnson191718 күн бұрын
@@Arxy12 It is, because to have a PSN account you have to upload an ID now a days. They sell all of the information you provide to them. Name, Address, DL/ID Number, Birthday, ect. With this many people refusing to create an account and sharing this info with them has the financial repercussion that they cannot sell the info for those people. Additionally, many people are turned away from them due to actions like this, loss of data via hacks, ect. They have reduced their market & market share.
@kingpin-957917 күн бұрын
Rather than making it mandatory, they could just give in-game rewards to anyone connecting their account to a PSN account. Sony would gain their metrics, the executives would get their bonus, the players would be happy. Problem solved. But no, they have to make it hard
@Rhyno0123453 күн бұрын
I think “pulling a Helldiver” should be the official term to describe having an amazing thing going and ruining it with one bad decision.
@Spoonymanynoops19 күн бұрын
"Due to your data being too expensive to harvest, we are removing Helldivers 2 from Steam in your region."
@flykz25519 күн бұрын
Nah, its bc nobody gives a fuck abt a 3rd would country enough to buy someones info from it bc its useless
@Sw33tBabyRays19 күн бұрын
It was literally removed from the regions where ppl wouldn’t be able to make a PSN account hence they wouldn’t be able to play the game.😂
@thelastant836619 күн бұрын
@@Sw33tBabyRaysand yet they could play just fine before, no refunds either
@bestieswithtesties19 күн бұрын
Tell me you have no idea what's going on without telling me you have no idea what's going on
@izaruburs938919 күн бұрын
@@thelastant8366They were able to play it, because you didn't need a PSN account.
@BrandEver11718 күн бұрын
"This wasn't part of the user agreement!" "I have altered the user agreement. Pray I do not alter it further."
@valx758618 күн бұрын
I'm hoping things brings more eyes to the fact that most terms and conditions are there to give power and control to the corps not to protect your experience or their IP
@HTMangaka18 күн бұрын
My favorite "Shoot Space bugs" game actually came out 26 years ago. ...it's called Starcraft. Man, I miss it so.
@huntresswizard56918 күн бұрын
@@HTMangaka deep rock galactic best bug shooter
@BAM_BAM_XCI18 күн бұрын
i was always part of the user agreement when buying the game it wasn't changed (im not agreeing to it i think its crap but it was aways in the user agreement it was required)
@HTMangaka18 күн бұрын
@@huntresswizard569 Oh, snap! That looks AWESOME! O_O
@soldiergaming889917 күн бұрын
And its back. They had it for a week then they went back on it seeing the massive outlash.
@avemarduk371816 күн бұрын
It's not only just a nuisance to have to link accounts like this. It's also yet another way for these corporations that want you to link your already established account on some other platform, to accounts on their platform, to collect your data. Which likely includes, but is not limited to all of your communications with other players while in-game lol.
@GibbsonTV19 күн бұрын
Trusting your account with Sony is the equivalent of trusting Patrick star with your #54 ultra rare animated mermaid man and barnacle boy trading card
@lanzegife19 күн бұрын
accurate
@natalimoina19 күн бұрын
I'd have more faith in Patrick
@alexanderforrest198319 күн бұрын
Mermaid Man says “buy more cards”
@firstnameiii727019 күн бұрын
BUY MORE CARDS
@requiem439119 күн бұрын
Lmao
@Einuhreins19 күн бұрын
make a good game: Publisher ruins it. Make a bad game: Publisher cancels you = layoffs. No Publishers: No Drama Edit: I now learned that Arrowhead CEO Knew months before, that Sony will force Players to Link PSN Accounts. faith destroyed. i just want to go back to 1998.
@MaxPaynefan119 күн бұрын
Make a good game, makes profits, layoffs for everyone to please shareholders and put more money in their pockets
@alvatoredimarco19 күн бұрын
You really don't need a publisher anymore in the modern age. Publishers are just a dinosaur now; a holdover from the days when games needed physical media and needed to be sent out to physical game stores. Now that we have Steam, you can easily self-publish; you pay a small fee and Steam handles everything associated with getting your game listed. Of course, all this goes out the window if for some reason you want to be on console as well. If the reason Arrowhead went to Sony is for money, they could have just gone directly to the potential playerbase instead and crowdfunded it.
@GravitasZero19 күн бұрын
The solo dev for Songs of Syx is also self published. I really love that, especially since it’s an EA game and most EA games published, for example, by hooded horse follow massive over-hype campaign that make their EA games look like fantastic finished products. Most publishers suck (and not just in the gaming industry), and those that try to look like they are good are just faking it to gain popularity points, especially with the EA smooth-brained white-knights
@viktormilosevic817219 күн бұрын
@@alvatoredimarcoThe publisher helps a lot with marketing and legal stuff, making smaller studios have more time to focus on making the actual game
@Mungnum19 күн бұрын
Yeah, let me say, as a professional game dev who knows a lot of people in the AAA space… no publisher DEFINITELY doesn’t mean no problems. Unfortunately that’s the world we live in.
@stockandslow18 күн бұрын
Not even 24 hours after this was posted and Sony announced they won’t move forward with the update 🎉
@WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot326718 күн бұрын
Sony has since announced that they will not be moving forward with their decision.
@darthzayexeet365319 күн бұрын
Sony: *“You turned them against me!”* Arrowhead: *“You have done that yourself.”*
@blackwatertv701819 күн бұрын
To be fair people hated Sony already
@noahthecrazy163219 күн бұрын
A surprise to be sure but a welcome one
@mightypepper771919 күн бұрын
Nice
@Darthwgamer19 күн бұрын
@@blackwatertv7018 Yeah I'm starting to think Sony wants that for some reason.
@caboose2232019 күн бұрын
People who aren't in a PSN region can just make a Sony account and lie about the country and no you won't get banned, been doing it for over a decade. The data argument is also invalid. You're afraid of them leaking your email and Sony password? Just make your Sony password a unique one. I'm just saying this situation is mildly inconvenient at worst and PC players are destroying this community for literally no reason. It's also an insane assumption that you're just gonna SOL and be stuck with an unplayable game.
@patron859718 күн бұрын
The typical next step for the suits would be "Well the game is rated very badly, which means the dev team is incompetent. Let's fire/close them." Edit: I was wrong and even though I don't play that game, I'm glad I was wrong.
@wykydytron18 күн бұрын
Good, they need to be free from Soyny and make great games on their own.
@Micecheese18 күн бұрын
Arrowhead became the dictatorship it told us to destroy
@buttahXD18 күн бұрын
@@Micecheese Its literally Sony doing this, not Arrowhead. While they should've known that Sony was going to McFuck up their entire gig here, I doubt they figured it would be three months in instead of over a year after.
@theapproachingstorm213318 күн бұрын
@Micecheese Not arrowhead, they are literally talking bad about Sony for this
@elliotpoco753918 күн бұрын
Good. I hope they will fire them all.
@TheHostofHeaven17 күн бұрын
Love your videos. I like how you put a positive spin on all the topics you care about just by speaking about them and raising awareness! I think your passion is awesome!!
@lucaslycan675918 күн бұрын
Wasn't even a fully 24 hours after this video that they actually changed their minds. Wild
@Jokin_Jake19 күн бұрын
The fact that a game this popular died over the course of a week due to something the developers had no control over sucks.
@KaiBue19 күн бұрын
Oh they knew what they were doing and absolutely had a part in this bs
@KikinCh1kin19 күн бұрын
Whats absolutely crazy is that in the past 3 days there have been as many negative reviews as there were positive reviews over the last 3 months.
@superspy-xv9sx19 күн бұрын
@@KaiBue The developers could have done more, but keep in mind that Sony manages the game's release and the marketing behind it. Arrowhead only has direct control over the development of the game, sony does everything else.
@ThatBackroomsFan19 күн бұрын
@@KaiBuethe fuck are you on about?
@Spectrum012219 күн бұрын
"No control"
@CrypidLore19 күн бұрын
You can't refund a game if you've played more than 2 hours, the game company however, CAN change ToS after you've played 2 hours, seems perfectly legit.
@janitorscruffy783419 күн бұрын
Rn you can refund helldivers 2 no matter what, people with hundreds of hours are getting refunds
@user-it3xy2cw1t19 күн бұрын
Try getting a manual review since the first few tries are automated
@philaxty842019 күн бұрын
If you tell steam that it’s because of the change in terms of service, they should give you a refund. It just has to be said in a specific way and you have to say it has to do with multiplayer.
@lukaslanger807719 күн бұрын
@@janitorscruffy7834 No i did not, i tried it. Apparently only those people in banned countries get refunds.
@nahrud645519 күн бұрын
you can still refund after 2 hours its just it wont be instantly refunded, someone would have to manually review and approve it
@jordanfrench329515 күн бұрын
I'm from the future, Sony backed off on the Account linking the day after this video was posted (or the same day, depending on your time zone)
@stephennelson495418 күн бұрын
Gentlemen. Major Order Complete.
@airninja321418 күн бұрын
ATTENTION ALL WHO READ THIS Approximately 3 hours ago, sony has overturned their decision on helldivers. They're trying some gaslighting and pretending its an "honest mistake" and they're "still learning what PC gamers want". Either way, please support the arrowhead devs who spent 8 years on this god tier game. And we can all collectively agree "Screw Sony".
@scotty818118 күн бұрын
Nice
@rebuiltocean295318 күн бұрын
🔥🔥🔥FOR DEMOCRACY 🔥🔥🔥
@dlanbatal18 күн бұрын
we need to make it clear to sony its not just helldivers. PC players do not want PSN accounts on anything.
@targard.quantumfrack685418 күн бұрын
thanks!
@thicclegendfeep405018 күн бұрын
So we don't need a PSN account to play the game we paid for ?
@firstdeaths19 күн бұрын
"Oh, you're having fun with Helldivers 2? Let's take away that fun and replace it with suffering!" Thanks, Sony.
@readett75619 күн бұрын
Cope
@charles_teak19 күн бұрын
@@readett756Yes, we are. Thanks for your concern
@paxnpaxn323119 күн бұрын
@@readett756sony fanboy detected
@VashxTSx19 күн бұрын
Nintendo would have nuked the entire project back into the Stone Age. Honestly, probably a better outcome. The game will die off anyway.
@dark633519 күн бұрын
I still dunno why arrowhead straight up dont sue sony, its illegal to sabotage a game cuz you dont fully own it, yes I said it, sabotage, as what sony did falls under what sabotaging means
@Werner-sv2le15 күн бұрын
As a single game developer, one day when my game gets on console, I'm in charge because it's my product and there'll be no account links period. How long can we take this before we snap.
@Smitty1996615 күн бұрын
What companies will do for your information is insane.
@solidskullz573619 күн бұрын
Helldivers 2 is one of the best shooters we’ve gotten in a while and all Sony had to do was sit back and enjoy the benefits. But they couldn’t even do that correctly, instead they had to sabotage a live service game that wasn’t predatory and wasn’t terrible. I feel so bad for the devs, they don’t deserve this
@KaraTheGirlie19 күн бұрын
From what I know the devs signed off on it 6-8 months ago. I could be wrong.
@ExtantPerson19 күн бұрын
@@KaraTheGirliethey did, doesn’t mean they had a lot of choice though
@Battered_Fanny19 күн бұрын
Laughs in lost planet 2
@Fiduciariesonio19 күн бұрын
Let's hope it can't get any worse, I mean I won't right, how likely will Sony force them to Make it worse
@treali19 күн бұрын
@@ExtantPerson They still knew about it and was watching people buy the game without giving clear warnings. They let people waste their money. They're not innocent.
@YY-nezy19 күн бұрын
We are diving into hell in real life at this point.
@Ghtzwehat19 күн бұрын
FR
@DontReadMyProfilePicture10219 күн бұрын
*Don’t read my name….* 👑
@Sirdilophosaurusthethird2.019 күн бұрын
@@UTTPofficerRonnieMcfloyd nerd
@Dvckyyyxo19 күн бұрын
@@UTTPofficerRonnieMcfloyd me, i care
@Sirdilophosaurusthethird2.019 күн бұрын
@@DontReadMyProfilePicture102 nerd
@Stormworks_maker_of_things18 күн бұрын
MAJOR ORDER COMPLETED, Divers we’ve done it. The Sony menace has been fought back. No more PSN.
@grimingage118015 күн бұрын
my rabbits foot worked
@ryatt936519 күн бұрын
Sony really let Arrowhead cook up one of the best games of the last decade, and just as it was looking like this game would actually be more than one of those hits that only lasts for a month or two, they just thought “Now if only there were a way for us to fuck this up.” God damn I hate video game publishers.
@MorfsPrower19 күн бұрын
They're legitimately useless. Just corporate bloat with predatory legal teams and braindead execs. Self publishing is the way to go, come hell or high water. Is corporate money really worth the losses that negate the investment put in?
@thephilosopher717319 күн бұрын
Ppl are overreacting imo. Sony is looking at you all and shrugging their shoulders. AH is in a panic, and players are gonna continue to play games that have the same requirements being asked of right now. The difference? They just asked for it earlier.
@alexrastelli732319 күн бұрын
HD was nothing more than the twitch flavor of the month game - people were just deluding themselves that it wasn’t.
@ghuldorgrey19 күн бұрын
@@thephilosopher7173 You delusional clown. 177 Regions basically cant play this game anymore BECAUSE PSN doesnt exist in many countries.
@zorkblat385819 күн бұрын
@@thephilosopher7173 There are people who purchased the game that literally can't play it now. Is that an overreaction?
@dariusz.911919 күн бұрын
I agree with Louis Rossman on this. If the devs/publishers can change the ToS at any moment after your purchase then gamers/customers should be able to return the product at any moment with no questions asked
@jbmp139018 күн бұрын
Exactly
@Cherry_VCR18 күн бұрын
Exactly Chain
@MikeHawkaMildlyStank18 күн бұрын
Yeah… i always thought tos was a contract of sorts… guess not lmao
@engagex118 күн бұрын
Lol we wish
@notanonymous397618 күн бұрын
this would definitely be abused. business needs security as well. i would refund every game that changes policy everytime i need cashflow
@cinder418116 күн бұрын
Steam opened refunds to people because they were fully against Sony doing this crap and people were able to get refunded for it. It doesn't seem refunds are open on the US but yknow.
@gunzandgodz16 күн бұрын
If the game survives, I wanna see crossover DLC of the Alien Franchise. With the Queen Alien being the boss and Face huggers being a unique enemy that can kill you instantly, eventually over the span of the match if caught. Acidic blood that corrodes armor, and Royal guards that help let you know you’re nearing the Queens lair.
@Jakeyythetr18 күн бұрын
I think Sony did this on purpose. Helldivers was the first game in a long time to break the classic cash cow methods by removing limited time battle passes, allowing purchasable currency to be found in game, no loot boxes or luck based purchases, and fair prices on cosmetics and passes that don’t impact the game that much. Sony did not want Helldivers to be an example that you can still hit big and make money without these greedy methods. They want the old greedy purchases back and they certainly don’t want a game like Helldivers setting a standard.
@Clatgineer18 күн бұрын
you are a wise man
@zm178618 күн бұрын
bigger conspiracy: the US government forced them to do it, as a way to prevent us from playing with chinese, russian and african players. can't have world war 3 if we refuse to kill each other
@ericb868918 күн бұрын
Literally wrong, it was listed that it would require psn at launch and was only postponed due to server issues. Sony is now merely enforcing it.
@splintery935718 күн бұрын
@@ericb8689 was optional until they changed it right before they announced it
@anarchium_wellsquest18 күн бұрын
@@ericb8689 enforcing it why
@Reflection55418 күн бұрын
UPDATE: Helldivers 2 no longer requires the creation of PSN Accounts. We did it bois
@null428018 күн бұрын
Arrowhead truly is one of the only remaining companies that listen to community feedback
@jaxsonruiz-davis495018 күн бұрын
major order completed 👍
@CamronSixx2218 күн бұрын
@@null4280 Well more like Sony listened.
@holdenhodgdon375618 күн бұрын
@@CamronSixx22Sony caved because they couldn't figure out a way to call players incels and accuse them of toxic masculinity.
@sweetpurple881218 күн бұрын
@@CamronSixx22probably arrowhead yellig wt the publisher long enough
@Phage-13 күн бұрын
It’s almost like if things goes well and they’re setup for success, then they get mad and do whatever they can to sink it.
@samuelcameron821518 күн бұрын
WE WON SOLDIERS, SONY REVERSED ITS DECISION
@techyrelic18 күн бұрын
“i dont know”. that shit is heartbreaking, watching your greatest success die and not knowing or being able to stop it.
@reconfox8218 күн бұрын
Relatable
@NaldzHobbySide18 күн бұрын
😢
@Vss07718 күн бұрын
"the greatest success you ruined. digging your own hole deeper & deeper. Not him, you, due to your own mistakes. but that's why do mistakes. We learn from them - at least some of us do."
@FamSisher18 күн бұрын
It sucks for sure but It’s far from dying
@LoremIpsumDolors18 күн бұрын
Sony moving their headquarters to commiefornia was a mistake
@PUNISHERMARKO19 күн бұрын
To everyone who wants refund from the steam. I had 450 hours in game and requested refund with these words and was successful: "Sony has retroactively changed how the game works and forced legal agreements upon me I do not accept". I received full refund in less than 24 hours.
@MaximusPrimeIV19 күн бұрын
Pin this
@bozhidardimitrov357319 күн бұрын
yeah, there's no loss in trying your luck even if the usual rules state you're not refund eligible.
@caspianconstantine2719 күн бұрын
I've been trying for about 4 times now. Answered via bot denying my refund with the current 4th one still ongoing with these exact words copy pasted. I could only hope this will work.
@teezy123419 күн бұрын
After 450h ? Ain’t no way
@sierramike091319 күн бұрын
@@teezy1234 They have already done it for others. Just need to get it passed the bot and in front of a real person.
@youngoden410618 күн бұрын
WE NEED A UPDATE CHARLEY. WE FUCKIN WON
@muntuku16 күн бұрын
They fixed it. We won! Sony has said that the PSN connection will no longer be required!
@twospies383519 күн бұрын
I feel so bad for Arrowhead. They had something good, they were really happy about it and had fun with others that loved the game. And now it’s been ruined by corporate greed.
@NakoNakoNH19 күн бұрын
I don't. They knew where they were getting into when dealing with Sony. They've done stuff like this again and again.
@mikeehrmantraut189919 күн бұрын
Tbh, they knew they sign in with the devil
@pyerack19 күн бұрын
There's a reason art keeps showcasing the devil in businessman clothes.
@qwerty1038419 күн бұрын
@@NakoNakoNHthey might not have a choice and needed the money to make helldivers 2
@michaelsilverdahl217519 күн бұрын
@@NakoNakoNH Sony owns the ip for helldivers, it was either Sony or no Helldivers at all
@lua850118 күн бұрын
all sony had to do is give people cosmetics for linking their account, not make it mandatory, and they would’ve gotten more people to sign up and none of this would’ve happened. also i saw someone say this is actually the “let’s cut the goose open to take all the golden eggs” fable and that couldn’t be more accurate
@rowback9718 күн бұрын
Thats all fine and dandy for people not blacklisted. Thousands of people who now can't play. That's the biggest issue here; for everyone else, it's just an incovienance.
@taintedsrrow241718 күн бұрын
for real, there is the TR-7 Ambassador of the Brand pre order armor set. It's literally a walking ad for a super earth company, I bet ArrowHead could have made something similar as a sign up bonus.
@puckoster18 күн бұрын
you cant even sign up for PSN account in some countries. also, why would i need to create a PSN account for playing a game on PC? i never even owned a PS.
@RealEthanWillis18 күн бұрын
@@puckosterbecause it’s a Sony game. Same way you sign into rockstar account on grand theft auto, ea account on ea games, Microsoft account on their games, Ubisoft account, etc. it’s very common
@QDj3918 күн бұрын
And they won’t unshackle bloodborne (I know it’s unrelated but still)
@MinorCaseOfTheGamies18 күн бұрын
As of right now, Sony has reversed their decision on this whole matter. The community has won!
@michaelcollins103313 күн бұрын
Another smaller issue that shrunk the player count was people's preferences in a community-powered co-op game, with a metagame about working collectively to fight a war on multiple fronts. Many players chose to keep playing on Terminid planets to the detriment of the Automaton front. Bit of a personal bias on this one but I was really looking forward to feeling like this was a mobile, responsive army redeploying where needed and working together and the rebalances to weapons in fairness made it trickier for some players to adjust to bots when they already needed a change in tactics, but while I find it a little harder I adjusted and enjoy going wherever my orders take me (Except for Hellmire. Fuck "Fire Tornadoes", and the horse they rode in on). But while it's clear that most people enjoyed jumping into Malevolon Creek and fighting bots until they were wiped off the map for a day and then came back, overall I think some people didn't appreciate that this is an online live service video game that is meant to run for a number of years and not a linear action game with a storyline that can be finished in ten hours like they used to be, but player counts according to planets show that many players clearly prefer one faction and so success in the metagame is skewed in favour of those who continue playing Terminid missions. Bot mains felt jilted that their work was undone and it was only a downhill battle to hold planets from there, people who prefer bugs got bored and sneered at other players as they refused to help with future major orders elsewhere, and bickering on Discord over people playing one or the other exclusively led to massive reduction in players on the bot front and now no new planets can be taken, I watched the concurrent player numbers drop from one weekend to the next immediately following that. Conversation turned so petty and regularly argumentative that I suggested the bot players move to a different part of the Discord to discuss what planets to work together on without all the catcalling on every other message (again, this is a community-driven co-op game), and a moderator (no, not the one you're thinking of) sent a comment addressing argumentative behaviour and preference on how to play, to the chat where the bot players had just moved to, but not to the general chat where "bug players" had been dismissive and beginning to become openly hostile. It was deflating for me and I haven't bothered engaging with the server since. This may have been in response to earlier weeks where bot players had expressed disappointment or anger about major orders failing despite bug players answering requests for help on the bot front, but I didn't see any of that myself so without evidence I can't make assumptions about that. Since then I am pleased to say on balance, that we have been able to successfully defend ONE planet, as an uptick of players from a peak of 3k to 33k on on bot planet saw an attack on the forward operating base on Vernen Wells repelled as of last night. And then the last and most damning has been the most unfortunate decision (presumably by Sony) to enforce the Sony account requirements that were advertised on the game from the start but Arrowhead likely decided not to enforce, that part's deeply regrettable and I completely understand the irritation that came from across the community about that, as people have genuine info security concerns after all the times they got hacked. Worse still, people are still not able to buy or possibly even play the game in numerous countries because red tape over this mess led to the game being removed from Steam altogether. This needs to be addressed immediately and I hope all the countries affected can play again very soon! :D As I said I've been on the Discord, following along with the Baskinator drama, and also having a peek at the far-right's reaction to anything suggesting that this game is a satire made by people they hate, and from what I've seen there's been too many complaints about minor issues that have impacted the game's player count over time. The Sony situation should not have been allowed to happen as it's a bit ludicrous to expect PC players to sign up to a console company but to be brutally honest, there was no way Arrowhead could keep up with all this and keep everyone happy. A good hundred or so bugs to fix, servers that had to be expanded, more content needed for experienced players to keep them engaged, the content added or changed not being amazing enough, the game not being apolitical enough, all of this has been dunked on, and rather unfairly for the most part from what I can see. The team had about 100 people as of last year and they are getting used to developing a different kind of game to their previous offerings, and we're only three months in. I stand with the community on the Sony situation, but if it weren't for that, my view of this community for a co-op game would be scathing as they've failed to appreciate how clearly keen Arrowhead has been to deliver a fun, balanced and welcoming experience for everyone regardless of their background and preference of playing. All of the players I've encountered have been great but overall it's clearly a different breed to Deep Rock Galactic's very kind and supportive player base, though in fairness DRG doesn't have a galaxy map to conquer together and Ghost Ship Games had the time to build up their audience and their expectations over 6 years. Okay longest comment ever or TL;DR, say what you want but I've enjoyed this game immensely since March and wanted to show that there's been multiple understandable and normal circumstances that could be fixed with time as well as all the drama and people being quick to criticise Arrowhead, please just bear with them and I'm sure they can provide us with a game that all of us (or at least more people than not) would come to love and enjoy for years!
@flame734618 күн бұрын
Ladies and gentlemen, sony has announced that they will be backing down on forcing pc player to connect a psn account, we won
@Malugako18 күн бұрын
Y’all are just pussys for that lol
@shuaibkamedien220318 күн бұрын
For democracy 🗣️
@Enforcer_WJDE18 күн бұрын
Link or it never happened
@Degeneratehippo18 күн бұрын
Where's that one superman meme
@lawfulll553218 күн бұрын
@@Enforcer_WJDEgo look 🤦♂️
@flamebull519 күн бұрын
I think it also comes down to the principle of it like Louis Rossman said; if game companies can just change their terms of service AFTER releasing the game at any point down the line, then what exactly is the customer agreeing to when they purchase the games? Its also a double standard because customers aren't allowed to violate the terms but the company is allowed to amend them however they want, its ridiculous imagine buying a house and then the bank tells you 'we've changed our mind, we own the house now because we helped you pay for it"
@maevegillespie691119 күн бұрын
I mean technically the bank can and will take your house as means to fulfilling debt or bankruptcy.
@ripandtear19 күн бұрын
Just finished watching Black Sails, I guess it's a sign I should fly the black flag against sony now.
@coffeenair19 күн бұрын
It's not really like that though, the game always said it would require psn on the store page. It was just disabled at launch because it caused some server issues or something.
@MrDoggo2319 күн бұрын
@@maevegillespie6911 You can't compare a loan and a product fully bought legally.
@InvaderTroy19 күн бұрын
that’s exactly how foreclosure works though. arrowhead were likely in breach of contract by allowing people on PSN without login
@SkullBlack5418 күн бұрын
I think what it is is that they made it optional initially thinking that most people would link their accounts, with few skipping that. But when nobody did it voluntarily they decided to force it on everyone
@Grim32718 күн бұрын
This probably had a good bit to do with its success and Sony wanting to cut out Valves take on the microtransactions since they were processed through Steam
@Justyn_Lim_19 күн бұрын
You know what saddens me. The fact that Sony probably won't suffer from this even though they are the ones who are mostly at fault. While the ones who will bear all the suffering and persecution is Arrowhead, who were only partially at fault. In the end, the only people whose lives were truly affected won't be the dipshits in Sony, nor would it be the gamers who lost access to this game. They would just refund and move on. The ones truly affected are the people in Arrowhead, who undeniably poured their heart and soul into their game they have been making for 7 years. Helldivers 2 and AH being a small company were like the underdog of the current gaming industry, standing up to the big dogs, and they were killing it. Everybody wants to see the underdog succeed. But now, because of a forced play from the big dogs, the support that the underdog had turned against them, and the big dogs remains untouched.
@trequor19 күн бұрын
Sony cant kill their talent. Arrowhead can make another game from free Sony on the reputation of Helldivers 2
@mortalphoenix716819 күн бұрын
@@trequor but doesn't this affect the credibility of the studio. Who will trust them, going forward?
@xenosfur19 күн бұрын
They really spent 7 years to make a game for Sony to ruin it in a week.
@gavingotback19 күн бұрын
@@trequor😂buddy money ain't free there's a reason there's less and less game studios each year and get bought out all the time now
@zargus231219 күн бұрын
Arrowhead is only guilty of making a video game under Sony. Their fault in this is incidental, not intentional.
@lahirebrz19 күн бұрын
It's just sad to see how a big soulless company can ruin an amazing project, how a studio can be affected by choices of people who have nothing to do with their project.
@ketch1019 күн бұрын
Money!
@GrayWolf500019 күн бұрын
"nothing to do with their project" where exactly do you think they got money from to make the game and pay employees?
@rox372519 күн бұрын
Oh well, you'll forget about this in a week.
@mikea574519 күн бұрын
@@GrayWolf5000 Do you credit your employer with buying your car? Do you thank the bank for your home? Providing capital is not the same as actually doing the work
@chadgunner440319 күн бұрын
Just because Sony fund them don't mean they own them. Don't get trapped in the hierarchy realist mentality
@cheporestrepo12 күн бұрын
Helldivers 2 is everything all the 343 halos combined would ever want to be and wont ever be
@doctorgames101b17 күн бұрын
Based on what Charlie is saying, it sounds like Sony screwed up their recent cash cow. What a waste.
@FedkaSlovanich17 күн бұрын
These people dont care about money, they care about their own personal agenda.
@Olivar12319 күн бұрын
The fact Sony was able to fuck up Helldivers II is somehow baffling and unsurprising at the same time
@sophieedel632419 күн бұрын
Steam denying refunds is just as bad. Hopefully some people grow a spine and start calling Steam out on this. You can not just change the terms of service, especially not when it involves privacy sensitive data collection.
@psylina19 күн бұрын
@@sophieedel6324They've been charging back people even with 200+ hrs. You just need to give a calm and clear refund reason to steam and they'll refund
@Gabecastaneda200419 күн бұрын
@sophieedel6324 wow I didn't even know this, that's just theft at that point, shady companies always money hungry
@harmless933619 күн бұрын
@@sophieedel6324 I hear its just the automatic bot that rejects. If your ticket gets to a real person it has a good chance of getting refunded.
@tjhall100019 күн бұрын
they didnt mess it up at all. they got like $1b to $2b out of it. so they are laughing their way to the bank
@Chesslover6942018 күн бұрын
The fact that Sony is taking Helldivers 2 players' freedom to not link PSN is peak meta irony. One day, Sony will learn Gabe's ultimate technique of doing absolutely nothing and win. But not this year.
@greenstrawberrygaming18 күн бұрын
im pretty sure that rule about the countries is inforced by the countries themselves but that doesnt free Sony from being that stupid
@DamienDarkside18 күн бұрын
@@greenstrawberrygaming Microsoft online games work in those countries. Nintendo online games work in those countries. Other Steam games of less worth and value operate in those countries. Sony simply did not want to allocate server resources, there are absolutely zero excuses.
@kamomohilda795418 күн бұрын
You're being too optimistic to Sony pal.
@chrheca18 күн бұрын
I mean how fucking brainwashed must you be to post this comment
@spyker_aileron18 күн бұрын
@kamomohilda7954 i thought the same thing. Sony has been blowing toes off their feet since the 80's. I brought this story up with my dad and he told me stories of different sony technologies that they kept killing because they were too incompetent.
@nex331015 күн бұрын
“I wouldn’t be surprised if hackers started holding their own E3 to announce their next hack on Sony” that line alone made me subscribe, you made my morning 😂😂😂
@Xenorion18 күн бұрын
UPDATE : SONY changed it that we dont have to do the Account linking !!! The Community won !!!
@stijnd526819 күн бұрын
Little conspiracy theory. Sony was so mad that this game got popular instead of other games with a million microtransactions they purposely nuked it out of jealousy
@crazychase9819 күн бұрын
I'm guessing it was political reasons. Sweet baby an black rock. Paid for the none socialist devs to get tanked plus the other Sony games sucking
@EthnicallyChallenged119 күн бұрын
Unfortunately that wouldn’t be good for business across the board.
@jamieking312419 күн бұрын
Yes I'm sure the mega corporation wanted to stop making as much money out of pettiness
@stijnd526819 күн бұрын
@@jamieking3124 why do you think I called it a conspiracy theory
@bobjason754019 күн бұрын
@@jamieking3124Microtransactional games make more money than helldivers could ever hope to
@lildaiki762919 күн бұрын
Game development is risky these days. you could spend billions, spend 10 years in development, call it a AAAA game and people will not buy your pos game. But then HD2 came along and showed us what game development could be, only for Sony to show us how the world works
@envy745519 күн бұрын
Billions?
@euclidYT19 күн бұрын
Sony does this regularly with good games too. They do it intentionally so they can say that shoveling their shit slop is the only thing that works. Microsoft, Ubi, and EA all do it too.
@MaskedMazter19 күн бұрын
@@envy7455 he's talking about skull and bones
@mcriddik277018 күн бұрын
The second you posted this Sony canceled it.
@scottl966017 күн бұрын
They took it behind the barn to shoot it only to find a mob of both PC and some Sony helldivers there ready for a fight.
@deadshxll19 күн бұрын
As a cybersecurity student, I can confirm that there is 0 security benefit to linking your steam account to your PSN account, in fact if implemented poorly it can be a security flaw.
@erikdude66619 күн бұрын
yea, lets give Sony root level access to our PCs
@TheMrDemonized19 күн бұрын
there is no benefit for end-user at all. only "benefits" for companies
@NikoMoraKamu19 күн бұрын
i'm not happy with the sittuation but the reality is that steam only share with sony your steam id which is public
@SomeKindaSpy19 күн бұрын
Sony's databases are regularly hacked with personal info leaked.
@DescendingVelocity19 күн бұрын
More than likely a flaw considering Sony’s reputation for security lol
@Alteronx19 күн бұрын
They literally had a golden goose giving them golden eggs and Sony really thought "hey if we kill it do u think we'll get even more eggs?" Sucks to see a fantastic game ruined by bad management
@SL4PSH0CK19 күн бұрын
Yea seeing HD2 had everyone’s attention since it’s the most recent and no competition in the co-op extract horde shooter genre.
@O-bearer-mine19 күн бұрын
This is exactly it. They thought so short term they killed the goose
@alexdenommee321919 күн бұрын
Probably will never see another game like this come together as well, as all the people involved in the game development will likely move away from game development, imagine knowing you could have changed your entire future and life with a game and then Sony does this to basically make your game dead, it would be soul crushing and no one would want to dedicate themselves to developing games again with the possibility of this happening to them.
@GizzyDillespee19 күн бұрын
They had a real goose that laid gold nuggets, and then they killed it?! Or, do you mean Sony the opposite of literally had a goose that laid golden eggs?
@O-bearer-mine19 күн бұрын
@GizzyDillespee It's an analogy A goose that lays golden eggs is a constant stream of value and money as long as you take care of it. They chose to kill the goose, for short term gain, they chose to kill off Heldiver's success in an attempt to make more active numbers on their PlayStation account total. And it failed
@zentec01018 күн бұрын
When you are the layer between normal employee and corporate, you realize to them its all about goosing those numbers even if something makes lots of money you got to squeeze more and more to you kill it instead of having a steady stream of revenue. Bonuses are not based on a steady stream of money only gains in areas.
@coldapollo873118 күн бұрын
WE WONN!!!! PLEASE MAKE AN UPDATE
@LuvstruckFYB19 күн бұрын
“You know adding it to Xbox with cross play would boost the game overall and bring back some players if y-“ Sony:”No.”
@thatplayathough810118 күн бұрын
this is why ive been vibing with Xbox lately tbh, while not perfect i think theyre making strides in the gaming community for things like connectivity and crossplay. they make their money off the games and so providing to more rather than trivially locking it for their console has been working. Its also just better for us players cause now are games are fuller and i can play with my PC buddies rather than hording first party titles xbox releases the newer ones throughout the markets, making windows crossplay and pushing for crossplatform, If i remember correctly Even Minecraft had issues with sony tryna be crossplay between the Bedrock Edition. gamepass is banger (not all games are good but its a good alternative to buying). As of like a couple days ago xbox released a bunch of older first party games to PS including like Sea Of Thieves and several others etc. Xbox isnt perfect but they learned to share and expand, Sony and Nintendo too busy being pretentious to grow. Nintendo will SWAT a 14yr old for drawing mario in school art class claiming it infringes their copyright, and playstation hasnt grown with the age of connectivity (and apparently do shit like this). Its just sad I was looking forward to my PS5 coming, finally get all the games ive been missing on but not it just feels tainted since Helldivers was one of those games I was look forward to trying
@aerosdacillo122718 күн бұрын
I think sony realy forced us to create psn so that they can flex it to xbox that they have an million active players than xbox 😂
@forklordbbb868418 күн бұрын
@@thatplayathough8101yeah they aren’t perfect but they are definitely more advanced in certain areas
@lugenhauser19 күн бұрын
Imagine those poor developers. Nine years, just down the drain
@brian288819 күн бұрын
Potential thousands of long and loyal customers lost from corporate greed.
@TDJunkie22619 күн бұрын
A fucking Shakespearean tragedy
@Thewesmen6719 күн бұрын
Helldivers is mid anyway who cares
@JefferyEpstiensBlackBook19 күн бұрын
Remember when you could play minecraft without linking a microsoft AND a mojang account? Oh yeah that was fine that they made the change but helldivers?!?! Unforgivable.
@arandomgamer931719 күн бұрын
@@Thewesmen67back in my day, rage bait was believable
@xsarcasmicx_yt17 күн бұрын
Helldivers 2 dropped their account linking situation. However, after players tanked Helldivers 2 on reviews it caused a massive issue. Especially with people requesting refunds and such.
@TheVeregat15 күн бұрын
This really makes me miss the old days of physical copies played offline.
@akira839319 күн бұрын
it's baffling how companies can fuck you over and not get any punishment for it. the fact anyone has the audacity to defend the greedy corporations is mind numbing
@ender_king167019 күн бұрын
Makes you wonder how many of them are bots.
@tonyASi19 күн бұрын
@@ender_king1670 not much some people just have a slave mindset paired with a low iq
@starboy565319 күн бұрын
the punishment is losing their audiencelol
@lukaspumo349819 күн бұрын
Take em to court! Oh wait they have infinitely more resources than any of their customers will ever have in that department! Oh noo it's almost like it's all by design😂😂😂 megacorps is the future lmao
@archiewoodward411519 күн бұрын
Every corporation ever. Corporations run society cuz we are all too pussy to do anything about it
@archdornan710019 күн бұрын
“We dive together, or we don’t dive at all.”
@anoncuber151019 күн бұрын
sony chose the third option, blacklist anyone in a 3rd world country from diving.
@diveblock205819 күн бұрын
you can still dive just a bit deeper. deep rock is always looking for some more employees
@CrestfallenCloud18 күн бұрын
@@diveblock2058Rock and stone, Brother.
@Robert-xt2ny18 күн бұрын
@@diveblock2058that was smooth af lmao
@anoncuber151018 күн бұрын
@@diveblock2058 well now sony backed out, but also ROCK AND STONE (has 140 hours in DRG >.>)
@midjelly88377 күн бұрын
Cant believe they are backpeddling the backpeddle and youre gonna need one.
@chrise827517 күн бұрын
I’m glad that Sony changed their mind about this, It was just a terrible idea!!!!!
@XaifaxVT18 күн бұрын
I've dealt with: 2 data breaches (maybe 3, Sony refused to answer if I was part of a 3rd) 1 case of games being removed arbitrarily 1 case of movies/tv shows being removed arbitrarily I'm not doing round 5 with Sony's bs.
@Kingnothing7x18 күн бұрын
Took you this long to tap out?
@joshm.835318 күн бұрын
Sony is the only place I've been hacked from. At least as far as places that ever had credit card from me. To their credit they fixed it pretty quickly, but the hackers made a child account on my account that I couldn't detach without calling them back. I just dropped my entire PS account and washed my hands of their stupidity, and I'm not about to go back either.
@justamanofculture1218 күн бұрын
You had it rough buddy. Time to kick this shit sony out of your room..........
@matguimond9218 күн бұрын
you got suckered 5 times I'm willing to bet you're going to go crawling back to Sony lol.
@XaifaxVT18 күн бұрын
@@Kingnothing7x These are from years ago, this is less "I'm done with Sony" and more "I dropped them years ago and can attest to the reason to stay away."
@tyberiousTem19 күн бұрын
The worst part is that if Sony was doing this for money and play count, it’s completely backfiring because now everyone who bought the game in certain countries is refunding it and not playing anymore. Way to go Sony you just lost about 30% of your players.
@nicholasholloway874319 күн бұрын
From what I heard, that number is more around the 60% mark.
@GundamReviver19 күн бұрын
@@nicholasholloway8743roughly 2/3'rd of thr globe yes. Including large parts of Asia which is mega ouch mode, numbers wise.
@goldenhate664919 күн бұрын
Well, peak weekend players dropped by right around 50% in a single weekend. Not a good look. And its probably people desperately trying to get some last minute enjoyment. I am waiting to see how hard it tanks when it goes through
@engineergaming166918 күн бұрын
All they want are those sweet PSN numbers to show their shareholders, and they’ll sacrifice the whole game for it
@mdb4542418 күн бұрын
They did it for 2 reason, bloat psn numbers and control. Basically a ceo wanted a bonus so they posion this game
@oJadeDragon18 күн бұрын
Sony released an update this morning on twitter saying they are no longer requiring the account linking.
@Thelitletrainthtcud18 күн бұрын
Check news, I been hearing they are no longer going forward with the forced account linking,but not sure how reliable the tweets are