Mossberg 590 vs Remington 870

[@MysticStylez302]

Hickok needs to be an unlockable character in a video game.

[@merkabich]

U meant dlc no game believes in unlocking anymore

[@eliteinventor]

He's under god mode

[@davidst4679]

MysticStylez302 40% to ballistic weapons

[@johnshultz6426]

OMG YAAASSS

[@garrettirwin8165]

@King Savage I wish

[@Whin556]

"Now remember there are no sights on here" ping ping ping

[@mattgeiger9988]

Added a red dot to a old break action and I think I shoot better with the bead lol

[@serenitynpeace104]

Ping ping ping ... shooting a Beebe gun? 😆 sorry, just had to say that.

[@gibbsrg]

The Mossberg is favored by the military. The 870 tends to be favored by the police, though the Mossy is well represented there as well. I own an 870 . I don't favor it over the Moss. I just happened to get one at a nice price at the time I bought it. This is really a Ford-or-Chevy type discussion. You won't go wrong with either.

[@fuzzo4475]

gibbsrg But what about Dodge? Haha.

[@robertgibbs4032]

gibbsrg That's the Winchester..lol. By the way, I have a Dodge..lol

[@fuzzo4475]

robert gibbs Hehe.

[@westcoastwarriorsarchive7929]

and then freedom group took over remmington put that moron nardelli in charge and drove their quality into the ground. My brother has an 870 that started rusting from a hand print and got stuck closed after firing. My cousin has one where the muzzle choke fractured and got shot out of the barrel.

[@rabbitstabber8598]

West Coast Warriors Archive all blued guns will rust if you don’t wipe them down after handling

[@mwells219]

If you ever break into this guy’s house that laugh will be the last thing you hear.

[@gregoryvanderpool]

😂🤣😅🤣😂 FACTS

[@Pachiku93]

"Let's try hitting him in the head"

[@Unclean_Official]

Yo omg like the laugh of the merchant from RE4

[@peterpetruzzi]

“Rack N Laugh”

[@ComputerLearning0]

Mossberg has long-since established itself as a great shotgun maker over the decades. Years ago it was considered a "poor-mans" shotgun and the choice of buying a Remington over a Mossberg was an easy one but today just about everything Mossberg makes is excellent. Remington is also a fantastic choice but personally I love Mossberg because of it's overall value.

[@jordansamson6071]

Mike Hawk I enjoyed my Maverick 88, made by Mossberg. Cheap yet reliable gun. Got my first duck with it.

[@nateo200]

Jordan Samson My buddy has one. Kept it at his moms house for them to use for defense. Great shotgun. Never got to shoot it but it was solid as hell.

[@terrybrennan359]

Jordan Samson i love my mines probably go semi auto next

[@formdoggie5]

+Mike Hawk Mossbergs have the smoothest actions I've ever used on shotguns, and in terms of actual use, take the longest to cause failures as a result of fouling the action/getting a metric butt-ton of sand in them. I liked em even better than the vast majority of the Benelli's I was issued.

[@booger1286]

formdoggie5 Remington 31 by far smoothest pump action shotgun. which is basically side eject Ithaca 37. and also basis of which Mossberg got its design.

[@mz6187]

Me: I like the 870 Hickok45 puts on the bayonet Me: Holy chit I want the 590

[@elperron1008]

Same thing with me lol

[@gains7207]

every family in America should have one of these.

[@hickok45]

+LittleRedStudios Not a bad idea!

[@andy56duky]

+LittleRedStudios *with no criminial background

[@gains7207]

^ yeah of course

[@andy56duky]

LittleRedStudios gotta be careful of what you say in here.

[@gains7207]

***** well thats good

[@mattbolz6036]

I could not decide so I bought a tank

[@catmandoo4u1]

+Matt Bolz Good choice......

[@vegeta9411]

Matt Bolz lol

[@CTN-dj7fr]

Alec8183 Depending on the Panzer. Assuming you are talking about the Panzer III and bigger, the wee little shermie wermie is no competition. Allied soldiers called the Sherman the "Ronson" after a brand of cigarette lighter of the name because of the tanks' flammability. The brands' slogan was "Ronson lighters light first, every time!". So yeah, maybe choose the t34 or Cromwell or something instead to go up against the Panzer. However the Panzer I, II, 38 and 35 light tanks would probably lose even to a Ronson. Wow, this was an overly informative piece of text. I'm turning into a biased and boring WW2 historian rambling on into the clouds and then getting shot down by British AA (or rather when someone gets triggered over me spitting over the Sherman so much).

[@anotherrandomtexan25]

Mister Miney I'm sorry but no, the only Sherman's that would light up so much were the early ones before they started using wet ammo storage and it was in many ways actually superior to the pz 3 and even Cromwell to some extent (at least in it's early days idk bout later on) it had a more powerful gun than any of the pz3 variants (other than the TD versions and even then might not being of a stretch) and was proven to be more reliable than the Cromwell look up "myths of American armor tankfest 2015" or something along those lines it has A LOT on the subject and others

[@mountainpass4255]

Mount a AA gauge on it.

[@allenbenge9558]

Hi, again. I was a deputy sheriff in Arizona, and mostly a self-trained combat shotgunner, with some valuable help from my firearms instructor. In 1988, at the Police Olympics, in Casa Grande, AZ, I took a bronze, silver and gold medal in small bore rifle with an antique Savage single shot bolt action rifle. I respect your opinion on the shotguns, and the fact that you like the Mossberg lightens my heart. I have fire both quite extensively, and I much prefer the Mossberg over the Remington. I have a considerable problem with the controls on the Remington, because no matter what I do, using them is uncomfortable and slow. The slide release and the safety on the Mossberg, to me are ergonomic. When I was in the academy, we had to use their shotguns, and guess what? Yep, Remington 870s. The first time I fired one, I ended up with a black eye and two cuts from my glasses, because my thumb hooked over the stock and smacked me a good one. with the Mossberg, the thumb is out of the way, and as you pointed out, the pump lock is operable with the second finger. I have yet to see a Remington anywhere in Arizona that hadn't been subjected to Dremel surgery. The spoon, or lifter, allows shells to get under thee spoon in stress situations, and this is usually remedied by cutting a slot in the spoon. If a shell ends up under the spoon, any key caqn be used to get the shell free. I don't care for that. I can operate a Mossberg in a SWAT Combat Shoot and never look at it. Add in the dual action bars instead of a single, and that is the police shotgun I prefer. As far as an alloy receiver goes, you can buy a polymer receiver for the AR-15 and build your own. You are a great teacher.

[@alidurgun1864]

Millions people like me , used/use 870 millions times without any healthy problem for a long time !! I worried abt that your this strange ! comment has been prepared/sent to lead people to buy 870 or mossberg !?

[@Rick-wn5oh]

Nothing like a slug. The gong was ringing like a church bell.

[@Ephem13]

You will pay around $1,500 for his version of the 870, and $550-650 for the Mossberg. The 590A1 is a champ, used one in Iraq and trust me, she performed so well I sold my 870 for a 500 when I got home.

[@sirbader1]

did you have the 8+1 version?

[@Ephem13]

I had the very basic 590A1 8+1, 20" heavy walled barrel with bead sight.

[@sirbader1]

Nice, I have the same but with ghost ring sights and speedfeed stock (mk2 - first one had some issues) I can see why the military chose it.

[@sirbader1]

Just installed the trip rail pump so I can mount some illumination too... Yeah she is probably 11lbs or so, but that's a lot of firepower.

[@Ephem13]

I personally own a 500 with factory heat shield. Just ordered a Hogue stock, Mesa Tactical side saddle, Mesa Tactical single point sling adapter, Sure Fire fore end and fiber optic front bead. Once I get it all together will get it Ceracoated.

[@CTN-dj7fr]

Every time Hickok cycled the bolt, I felt a shiver of joy and satisfaction run through my body. That sound is so nice, especially the Remington's.

[@acab247]

Love my 870 magnum. The choice between either is really which one feels right when you hold it. The 870 just felt tighter and solid for me.

[@calebrutan4893]

Clearly Hickok, your favorite is the Mossberg.

[@foskten10]

Both are excellent shotguns and you can't go wrong regardless of which one you choose. I used a Remington 870 back in the 1970's and it was THE gun to have back then. I got a Mossberg 500 back in 1985 and loved it but didn't know how well it would hold up over time. I've owned it 30 years now and have shot it A LOT. Later on I bought a 590 but the 500 still does it's thing, and that was a $99 shotgun back in the day! Doesn't matter if you you buy a Remington or a Mossberg. Either will do the job.

[@dthompsont3796]

I love both of these guns but I cant help but speed up the video to 1.5. Its always funny to see hickok45 with way to much coffee.

[@jaykae3952]

Lol

[@PieKlan]

+DThompson T (DThompson1985) Omg hahaha listen to 1:08 with the speed on 1.5x

[@projectilecomet8382]

underrated comment 🤣🤣

[@drifter7002]

25:05 I was waiting for this part! Ahh! I freaking love you Hickok! That totally made my night. Thank you so much for such an entertaining and informational video. I've been going back and forth about which one I want for a HD and I think I'm gonna settle in on the Mossberg 590. Especially after watching this. I can always count on you for a good video when I need to know something about a gun or if I just want to watch you have a good ol' time. So thanks again! Life sure is good. ;)

[@michaelogden5958]

Stock Mossberg vs. customized Remington and the Mossberg is better (IMO). And you can get the Mossberg straight from the factory with ghost ring sights.

[@Chronis6251]

You've got to love his laugh throughout the video. It's awesome when you get to do something you love! Thanks for what you do Hickok!

[@michaelledford4751]

I've had my 870 for about 30 yrs now & have pumped at least 5,000 shells thru it without anything more than a standard cleaning , I absolutely love the feel of an 870 , perfect balanced weapon with a perfect feel when you hold it , I've owned the mossy several times & ended up giving both to my son's because they don't have the right feel to me , I use my 12's as slug guns & nothing comes close to an 870 with a slug barrel .

[@studiompodcastnetwork5119]

I just LOVE the look of the rounded bolt on the 870. Such an iconic and minimalist shotgun. Nothing makes me feel safer than riding on horseback around the property with my 870 in hand when there’s been a wolf or cougar sighting and I’m checking up on the livestock. My 870 was my first shotgun purchased back in 2016, then I got the classic Winchester Model 12, and then the legendary Ithaca 37. Goodness I love those old school pump action shotguns.

[@HeavyMental1000]

He has sold me on the Mossberg

[@jeffreyplumber1975]

ha ha hicock could sell ice to eskimo without trying just too likeable

[@Thestripper1]

Trigger guard safety is a dealbreaker!!! I can't understand why most pumps and semi aoutos use that? The Mossberg is a clear winner just because of that, in my book atleast.

[@Thestripper1]

I walk with my gun in safe, shell in chamber, and flick the safety to off when I throw the gun to my shoulder. It's in the same movement. The top safety is simply faster and more intuitive to operate. Speed is key in a lot of situations and especially when hunting birds or other small game in high and steep terrain.

[@unlitdarkness6]

I liked it for that reason as well, but I recently learned that if you were going to do a slug change over youre going to lose more rounds than you would if you had a Rem 870. Reference the dynamic art of the shotgun to see this in action. Its a badass DVD.

[@trigger_me_timbers]

its for me since im a lefty.

[@s4veyours0ul]

if where the safety button is placed is the deciding factor for purchasing either of these guns you are a very uneducated buyer obviously. why not do some research and base your purchase on some features that actually deal with reliability or how you like the internal workings of which gun better, upgrade options etc... something that actually matters.

[@trigger_me_timbers]

Frank Cilantro Being left handed and needing something ambidextrous is a huge factor when I look at when purchasing a firearm.

[@hquiller]

I have three 870... 12, 20 and .410... I use them for hunting, and they never failed me once! One of them is over 35 years old! Passed from my dad to me, and now my son uses it. Never had to replace any of it components. Best shotgun ever!

[@johnnywishbone932]

It is like comparing two supermodels! Either way you can't lose!

[@kencorsell8087]

Love your videos, very informative! If you take a fully loaded 870 and wrap two fingers around the mag tube where it attaches to the receiver, then hit the slide release and slide the slide back until it hits your two fingers, the round in the chamber will gently pop up out of the chamber so you can remove it without having it fly through the air. Then push the elevator up out of the way and continue the slide all the way back to the receiver and the first round in the mag tube will come down and can be removed. Now hit the interior catch on the left and the next round will slip past and you can remove it. Continue last step until follower is visible. You have now emptied the gun safely and in total control and you look like a professional.

[@griffinmiller3783]

My dad was never really into guns. But I am. I feel as if Hickok has been my fatherly advice as far as firearms go for a while now. Thanks!

[@harleymichael83]

I lean towards the Mossberg for the reasons that Hickok mentioned specifically the shell elevator. Mine is a Mossberg Maverick 88, same as the Mossberg 500 but with the safety mounted on the trigger group. With a 20 inch barrel and 8 shot capacity for under $250 it's hard to beat. Out of the box it's really good as it is but if one was wanting to do some work, a +20 Wolff magazine spring with a drilled aluminum follower really helps the shells fly out of the tube. I also use a soft felt wheel on a Dremel tool with Mothers Mag to polish out any casting flashes on the action bars, shell elevator, the bolt especially the where it makes contact with the lug lock for smoother action and less galling; the key is polishing not metal removal. Another trick my dad taught me growing up is that if you are ever having failures to eject with a smoothbore pump is to take a cleaning rod and a brass brush wrapped with super fine 0000 steel wool with a little oil and chuck it into a drill and run it back and forth in the chamber of the barrel to polish it. What often happens is shell expansion and heat causes it to hang up so encouraging a smooth surface helps with reliability and friction. Have fun and stay safe.

[@HyperTrollsGamingHD]

this dude has so much Swag its not even funny

[@Matthewpat]

Drip is unmatch

[@fukitol1972]

As far as these specific shotguns, I prefer the Mossberg. Better controls and seven + one capacity vs six + one on the Remington.

[@Airforcefd]

Both are great shotguns and personally don't think you can go wrong with either. I have a Benelli M4 since 2008 that I absolutely love. Been wanting a pump for a long time. Just recently went with the 590A1 with MagPul stock & fore end. And that is because I found it for $386!

[@TheJipino]

This video is full of lies! Call of Duty taught me that shotguns have an effective range of about 10cm, this guy shoots them at 100 meters. Fake!

[@TheJipino]

BYRD9630 Yes, it was.

[@JaneMalice]

lol te range is terrible in cod except te ksg

[@meow.zedong]

i know im late but CoD is a game, a freaking game NOT A REAL THING, dont believe everything from a game

[@gangweedernigga4012]

@@meow.zedong he's joking.

[@DjeriFamily_82]

i know how you feel

[@blmeflmm66]

Great video as usual. Enjoyed and agreed with nearly every point you made. I own 2 870s, a 20 guage Wingmaster and a 12 guage express(I was a starving college student, what can I say? haha). I qualified with and carried a Mossberg on combat patrols in Afghanistan. Love em all. It took some repetitions to get the muscle memory switched over to the Mossberg's controls as you mentioned, but it was never an issue. I've never pinched a finger loading 870s though and automatically refresh the mag tube on the fly when hunting without looking or thinking. I actually kind of like the spring resistance on the Remingtons spoon, but that's probably just because it's what I grew up with. Both guns are rock solid reliable and proven and I wouldn't hesitate to get either one. I didn't need the same repetition to get back on the 870s and I don't think it'd take the same to get back to the Mossberg either now that I've "lived" with it. Just know what you're carrying. If given the choice, I probably opt for another 870 because I love them or wait, a Mossberg because I don't own one yet or wait..........yeah no bad choices here. Slugs and buck are FUN to shoot. The watermelon was the piece de resistance. Saved the best for last. Thanks for the review and comparison.

[@kisielthe1st]

No clue why he can't just admit he likes the mossberg better.

[@Grimdarklul]

Dr. Pavel I'm CIA Trying not to be too biased. It would be better to list Pros and Cons in a simple list.

[@Evilmaxxed]

Dr. Pavel I'm CIA The reason why, is because he spent 1000 dollars more on the 870.

[@cpt.honklerof3rdkekistania400]

Because hes a grandpa and hes too kind to do so

[@AK-47ISTHEWAY]

Most likely because that 870 he received as a gift so he doesn't want to bash it too much

[@Operation3Sixty]

He did in a different video about the Shockwave vs Tac 14

[@LeopoldUlysees]

Excellent video and superb, thoughtful comments. I have the Mossy 500, and I like it a lot; it's perfect for home defense. The only Remington I have is an 1100 I bought for my dad back in '84 or '85, which he willed to me when he died three years ago. It handles like a Cadillac. Thanks, gents, for all the great comments.

[@Gixxer983]

So bottom line after watching the video.. Mossberg is a much easier to live with.

[@griffinmiller3783]

Mossburg shot guns, Remington rifles and ammo👌🏼👌🏼

[@OneBoundMusic]

not at all.

[@MDeJo27603]

One Bound Remington lost some of its great owners and gunsmiths.... ask any reputable dealer, any of their newer firearms are trash... they got rid of overpaid older timers and hired a bunch of young bucks. Remington isnt what it use to be. Mossberg all day long.

[@gchs1987]

I have the h and r with is a 870 clone

[@CAVlogs121]

I hate siding with one shotgun brand or another when you are talking about such awesome companies as Remington and Mossberg. I chose the Mossberg 500 because i like the tang safety better and love the ergonomics. But, if my Mossberg dissapeared today and I had an 870, I would not be dissapointed.

[@ninjamaster7724]

I love it when the camera gets zoomed in on the gong and you can see the bullet trajectory.

[@biker9dk]

I owned both, got rid of the 590 when I was out bird hunting and the forend snapped off the rails and went down to the trigger guard... can’t be rough with a mossberg like you can with the Remington. 870 will forever be king

[@mattwalters6834]

Never heard that before

[@Mav3D67]

870 sucks ass because of the slide release

[@SnailHatan]

Oh noo, you mean you have to move your finger to release the slide? That means the whole gun sucks ass :’(((

[@Mav3D67]

@@SnailHatan theres not really any advantages besides pistol grip safety compatability and the mag tube extenders. Mossbergs: Lighter, Safety location is better, no loading gate, theres no riveted internal parts. Plus ur buying from mossberg not the shitty ass “remington” that exists now

[@elche1976]

@biker9dk forever lol. Mossberg has overtaken Remington for the most shotguns sold. Data confirms this. Probably because realize the truth.

[@sbgbg8092]

I was set on getting an 870 because I used it in black ops 2. And I don’t have a shotgun to my collection. But this old hickok video answered a question I’ve asked for a long time. I’m going with the mossberg.

[@Superboy.77]

I've been in the market trying to decide between these two shotguns for the better part of a year as i save up. This video has by far been the most informing and in depth video I have found. Thank you so much for your videos, always informed and helpful, and a lot of fun.

[@rubenh7106]

Which one did you buy?

[@Superboy.77]

870 and I have had no issues. Take it trap shooting with some buddies every few months. @@rubenh7106

[@1990notch]

"trimming trees, whatever I'm doing" LOL, must get expensive trimming trees in your yard but lots more fun.

[@XAVargasX0206]

I trimmed trees the other day at my grandpas,totally worth the money for the shells

[@SuperSaltydog77]

You have become the go to channel for intelligently presented videos. Your honesty is a great big +

[@Frontline830tx]

Just ordered the 590A1 yesterday! Thank you Hickok, your chapter 1, 2 along with this video really influenced my decision in doing so. I always find your videos very resourceful.

[@Mhdogman]

Very helpful vid. Stuff I did not know. Yrs ago I had a Mossberg. I sold it for personal reasons. Never liked the Remingtons as much. Just for me the Moss always fit me better. So today I replaced it w the Moss 500 tact Persuader. I am thrilled. I love it's weight. Just a beautiful weapon. I know it was a perfect choice for me.

[@badweetabix]

Actually, aluminum alloy does have a weakness in that aluminum when it reaches the end of it's product life will fail catastrophically unlike steel which will show wear and tear before it fails. It is standard procedure in engineering when using aluminum to calculate the product's life cycle and when it should not be used beyond that designated time frame. At some point in the future of a Mossberg 590a1, its aluminum receiver will fail. It may be 50 years or 100 years, but it will happen. And with Murphy's Law being what it is, it will happen at the worst possible time.

[@craigbenz4835]

That is one of the reasons I get vehicles with steel rims instead of aluminum. The way it fails is slightly more forgiving.

[@glazedMIDGETS]

He chuckle every time he shoots, I feel like the shotguns are tickling him

[@charlesmarshall2697]

I got rid of all of our 870s and replaced them with 590s and 500s for the features he points out.

[@wileyvet815]

My first firearm ever was the Mossberg 590A1. Impulse buy. Had no idea what I was buying. Told the clerk I was looking for a shotgun and that's what I walked out with. I liked it. Wish I had watched this a year ago. Seems I am a shotgun savant for picking the Mossberg. Always good to know what experienced owners like and use. Since then I thoroughly researched all my subsequent purchases.

[@SmallBoreOutdoors]

I love how in almost every video you something along the lines of, "I don't think I'll hit __, there's no sights/it's a long shot." But you always hit whatever it is on the first shot xD

[@squishface3595]

25:08 Exactly what I wanted to see. Hickok never let's me down.

[@taylormello8914]

Idk how many times I tapped on that timestamp and not smiled, because it's perfect

[@davidkent440]

Back before we all switched to ARs in our cruisers we relied on slugs in our 870s to increase range if needed. I was taught something about an 870 then that I’ve never seen taught or demonstrated since: With a chambered round and rounds in the mag it’s super simple to eject the chambered round without advancing another round onto the feed ramp and into the chamber. Simply unlock the slide and bring it back in a *controlled* movement to where it’s 2 fingers from the front of the trigger guard. The round in the mag won’t come into the well (pretty much the same effect as ‘short stroking’ the action). Reach into the well with your strong hand thumb, push up the feed and simply push the round in the mag forward a fraction of an inch. You’ll hear a click, which is the feed mechanism resetting. You can now pull the slide all the way to the rear,ejecting the chambered round WITHOUT feeding a new round from the mag into the chamber. With the slide all the way to the rear, you can choose to close the bolt on an empty chamber or drop a slug in the chamber and run the slide forward, ready to go. This is way faster and less fussy than picking a chambered round out of a half open bolt AND allows that bolt to be completely opened to drop in that optional choice of rounds. Also, with practice it can easily be done with the gun at high ready, without taking your eyeys off the target. To my knowledge, the 870 is the only pump gun that allows this manual of arms. It’s the reason I chose it over the Mossbergs.

[@thomaslikescars]

My first shotgun was the 870 now I really want a 590 or 500. I love my 870 and I'm not looking to replace it, just add it a friend

[@I_Died_2_Weeks_Ago]

590A1 Magpul edition is *amazing*

[@stretchman490]

I went through this a few years back, and finally decided on the 870. For me the big selling point is that I like the M4 buttstock and pistol grip. The control set on the Mossberg makes it difficult to work the safety in that configuration. With the buttstock collapsed and the 18.5 inch barrel, the gun is pretty compact and is good for home defense and close quarters applications. Mesa Tactical makes a great buttstock set for either gun. I am awaiting the recoil buffer tube. Should be in tomorrow's mail. If recoil is a problem, then the Federal Tactical reduced recoil rounds, or other equivalents, are excellent at the ranges that most people would use a weapon like that at. However, the reduced recoil rounds are probably not as good at distance. Might be interesting to see a video showing what they will or won't do at longer ranges.

[@jonnyfish76]

I've had my Mossberg 590A1 for a couple years now and gotta say it's a great shotty. Great video, Thank you.

[@bichaeI]

I want a Mossberg 590 now

[@user-ej2ug4px2d]

michael neely i like 870 better because the fore grip and the shell ejector

[@HeavyMental1000]

michael neely This video was actually the deciding factor, when I bought my Mossburg 590a1 USSM. I have taken it to the range 3 times and every time I gain more satisfaction each time I fire it. The Remington has an equally good reputation according to my personal cohorts. I almost picked up the 870 but the 590 just seems superior in every way (I have the exact same one as Hickok. Parkerized. 8+1 capacity. Easier to load without cutting one's thumb on the shell elevator. As for the shell ejector shell hickok pointed out, its easliy replaced if broken some how vice the 870 having to be sent to manufacturer or gunsmith to get fixed. Lower in price as well. The sight does suck though, but there are 590a1 versions with ghost rings and front sight posts (check the 590a1 SPX).

[@MDeJo27603]

. 870 has a single claw ejector that can only be fixed by a gunsmith. Moss has a double claw ejector (per military requirement) that can be changed out by YOU.

[@Swayze1997]

HeavyMental1000 lower price, cheaper quality. The Remington won’t break on you like a cheapo mossburg

[@daleschmidt7157]

I think only the Mossberg 20" barreled 590A1 can be fitted with the bayonet mount. My 590A1 with a 18.5" barrel has no room to attach the mount. Darn it all. However life is still good.

[@matt0240]

I love my 870, my great uncle gave me it because he couldn't shoot any more.he bought it years and years ago, the gun still preforms like new and always has been reliable.its a special gun to me, nothing can ever beat the metal on wood look of the 870.

[@mikevallee3916]

We had the Mossberg 500 in Vietnam with Flechette shells. One time our point man fired at a running VC at about 50 yards, missed, but the arrows embeded in the cement stucco of a home, really deep. That was during TET 1958 Hue.

[@watcherman65]

Thank You for Your Service..

[@jeanluc5458]

Hi , Hickok45 it's always a pleasure to watch your video, from France, from where our freedom possessed weapons is becoming increasingly difficult. you have a beautiful shooting range, the Remington 870 is my favorite. Best regards

[@shychameleon]

jean luc I’m from California so I feel your pain.

[@deanbusch7991]

I built my own 870 from several old 870s and shot it for almost 10 years. But I grew up with Mossberg and so I just bought a 590 A1 and love it. So I sold the old gun to a buddy and its found a loving home. Both great arms

[@phycowhite4581]

Remington 870 tactical with heat shield. Got one and love it.

[@phycowhite4581]

yes with pistol grip

[@Breaker197]

my god! where did you get it! That's what I like about the 500 tactical, but I'm more of an 870 guy. that marriage would be perfect to me!

[@brianj7250]

Love my Remington first gun I ever owned

[@duck2587]

I love my 870 with the steel receiver. It was my grandfathers. So it’s an older 870 (better) and it’s sentimental. Never had an issue with it. Ever. My mossberg is fantastic as well. Subjectively, it doesn’t have the “feel” or mojo that the 870 does. Reliability and accuracy on both are superb. You really can’t go wrong. I wouldn’t sell either. Moral of the story: GET BOTH 😊🇺🇸

[@baliman555]

Question.... does Hickok hit the propane tank with the Remington 870 ? Looks like he missed to me !!

[@AllTheSmoke93]

yeah he did

[@AllTheSmoke93]

miss it

[@dansmith1695]

Stephen Rajczyk misses it!! , just watching it now 6 years on and I don’t know how people have missed the fact he’s left of the target!!!!!!!

[@leroybrady4288]

Hickok doesn't miss, rare (hugely expensive) stealth bullet got mixed in is all.

[@danielj4996]

I love the little laugh he does after shooting 😂 it kills me

[@SavageWolfx24]

Mossberg 590 vs. Remington 870 Magazine: 9 < 7 Reload: Faster on the Mossberg 590 Accuracy: Mossberg 590 Ammo: Tie Rate of Fire: Mossberg 590 Slightly Extras: Mossberg 590 w/ Bayonet My Weapon preference: Mossberg 590 Great 👍 Video Thanks for Sharing

[@Mrich775]

Having carried a 500 on patrol many many times, as well as worked on 30+ 500's and the same number of 870's as a armorer, I can definitely say that I will NEVER buy a 500. Started with 30+ as said, ended our deployment with 4, my personal one never worked right and broke multiple times. On the range maybe, trusting my life though, ill take an 870. The 500 was given to the military as a cheaper replacement to our 870's for a reason.

[@Mrich775]

Street price does not equal the government bid price.

[@joeruiz4010]

Colin Richard: Then at that point, your 870's ejector will break. I've had 3 870s: One did nothing but stovepipe, and the other 2, which I had 2 years before the incident, suffered broken ejectors. The only way they could be fixed was back at th factory, or, a gunsmith having to make the repairs like something similar to side-projects. Freedom Group FUCKED Remington. I'll stick with Mossberg! Bought 2 590A1s, and now have a used Beneli M1 Tactical, and wouldn't want ANYTHING ELSE.

[@daltonv5206]

500's are NOT 590's

[@trailertrashtactics]

Colin Richard you must have had a fluke man. These mossbergs are so indestructable that beneli even uses mossberg barrels

[@nberrios777]

I totally agree. Durability and reliability is all I really want. My shooting doesn't change regardless of the brand but I can't shoot a badly jammed shotgun.

[@LIV2500]

Just found a tricked out (20in/GRS/sidesaddle/forend light) 590 for $325. So excited!

[@Rltvader1]

These are both good guns, but i started on an 870 my cousin gave me as my first gun that wasn't a .22 and i have stuck with them since and love them. Personally, i think the 870s are smoother, the loading gate coming down doesn't bother me, nor does it pinch me, and i don't think it is a huge deal breaker. Also, if you are looking to buy an 870, i would suggest getting a pre freedom group model, that would be pre 2006ish. I think the fit/finish and quality is better. I have owned 2 express mags, currently own 2 wingmasters, one from the 80s and one from the 70s that i cut down into a scattergun and got a smoking deal on, and i just put a Marine Magnum on layaway. I love my 870s, the only other shotgun i would own or ever plan to own is a Benelli.

[@vgamedude12]

I would go mossberg personally, especially since Remington got acquired by the freedom group.

[@catmandoo4u1]

+Harrison I keep hearing that. That bad?

[@vgamedude12]

darth nader i think so yes. Marlin got acquired by them as well and it is generally accepted that both have declined in quality afterwards.

[@bigvon7848]

There are good ones out there I bought the 870 tactical for a beater and it has surprisingly given me excellent service...I trust it as much as my 590 maybe a tad more as bad has I hate to admit it and I love my 590 more than the 870

[@TheBashar327]

I remember watching an episode of Cops long long time ago where a gang banger dropped a bag that had a sawed off 870 in it. It had a shell that had jammed on ejection that the cop said was not uncommon with the 870. Later when going through the police academy I had an 870 that jammed on ejection twice. Haven't tried the Mossberg 500 but used a fairly old Mossberg 20ga my dad had and thing never jammed once.

[@colinweber6444]

The shell lifter is out of the way when I'm trimming trees...this is my new favorite way to trim trees in my neighborhood! LOLOL thank you Hickok45!

[@CitizenKate]

Steel vs. alloy receiver... considering the Rem 870 has a 2 year limited mfg warranty, the Mossy 500 has a 10 year mfg warranty, that says all I need to know about whether an alloy receiver is less durable or reliable than a steel one.

[@hickok45]

Alloy receivers seem to work and last just fine on Mossbergs, Benellis, etc.

[@VenezuelaNow]

Just picked up a 870 here in Canada it comes with a life time warranty here

[@scdevon]

You could trust your life with either of those guns. (The police and military do). Never even heard of an alloy Mossberg receiver giving problems or a steel Remington receiver either for that matter.

[@CitizenKate]

I ended up going with the 870 also. I like the control locations on the Mossy a little better, but comparing them side-by-side, the Remington has a better quality look and feel to it. It seems to be just made a little better. And as a lefty, I can still reach the safety and the slide release just fine.

[@coleoshtamebaghe3606]

CitizenKate agreed. I'm also a lefty and just bought 870. For tactical application, having safety on back is too easy to bump. Like the steel. It just seemed beefier than the Mossberg.

[@felipegames12]

Guys, what's your opinion about the Mossberg 930 (semi-auto) ? I live in Brazil, in a rich area, and almost every house in my street has been robbed, I wanna buy a gun for home defense now, but it's a long and bureaucratic process here for a civilian to buy a gun. For civilians it's only allowed: 2 short guns (.380 pistols or .38 revolvers), 2 long guns (shotguns) and 2 carbines (but not an AR, more like a .22 lever action). So I was thinking, a .380 isn't enough so if I'm gonna buy something it will be a 12ga, but the ones made in Brazil are good, but not as good as the ones that are imported, but so far the only legally imported shotguns here is the Mossberg 930. So, what should I get, a Mossberg 930 (4+1 semi auto) or a pump action CBC (brazilian made 7+1 pump action)? Is the mossberg 930 a good gun?

[@felipegames12]

***** Unable. I can't have a Mossberg 500/590 here, but if I could I would buy it for sure.

[@kylegohawks8604]

If live alone. Get a pump action. Nothing like that sound means more. If not alone. Get a .380 much more control with practice

[@felipegames12]

Kyle Go Hawks Yeah I live with 2 other people in the house. But isn't the .380 too small? Most people told me that it's not a good caliber for home defense.

[@girthquake5231]

felipegames12 don't let people talk you out of any caliber. .38 or 380 is perfect for defense if you're a good shot. Hell, I could defend my house with my .22 if I had to. If you get a huge caliber that you can't comfortably and accurately shoot, it's useless to you.

[@felipegames12]

Robert Wood Yeah but that's the idea of a .12 you barely need to aim with it, just point it at the enemy's direction and you'll blast him with a buckshot. And I don't know if I'm a good shooter, I've never had any guns. A single .380 shot to the chest probably wont kill, will it?

[@SkyNinja759]

1:33 If you look closely he's ringing the dinner bell on the neighbor's porch a mile away. He's that good.

[@judasiscariot7317]

This is the most American thing ever. I truly love it.

[@208SledHead]

Another great video Mr. Hickok. Thank you!!

[@Spinal2111]

Had my 590A1 for a few years now - didn't know there is like 8 different sub-models of the 590A1, one of them does indeed include ghost ring sights, which is the one I got. Works great, the bayonet lug is a neat addition too.

[@davidheaton2118]

Prefer the 870.. Both great though

[@YTeradicant]

I'm having such a hard time choosing between the both lol

[@benheron8938]

well standard Remington 870's can fit 4+1 shells while standard Mossberg 500's can hold 5+1 shells but Remington's can fit magazine tube extensions while the Maverick 88 (made by Mossberg) can't but the Mossberg 590 are able to have extensions I hope this helps!

[@598bryce]

Jo-E the way I see it is like this. having an 870 is like having a piece of American History.

[@598bryce]

Jo-E the way I see it is like this. having an 870 is like having a piece of American History. both great but I prefer the remington. super durable, ready for war be it 5-50 years old, used by the military forever, and just an all around great gun. of coarse this IS just my opinion.

[@598bryce]

***** You still see it here and there, however. my cousin has seen people with them during his service.

[@reliablethreat23]

You can't go wrong with either choice. Both are excellent shotguns.

[@noeezyfluff]

got a mossberg 500 (I know its not a 590) for my 18th birthday, first shotgun.. learned how to break it down all the way and put it back together.. Ive only put about 80+ shells through it but no malfunctions and I love it..

[@kirkhilts2918]

The birds in his yard are so use to the firing, they don't even stop singing

[@diegobalaguer4726]

Sir you have a great aiming.

[@ek5419]

870 is my weapon of choice but my 870 is an old Highway Patrol trade in that was made in the 60's when they did things right. Old steel and even the trigger guard is at least metal. It is now a Scattergun Technology conversion with Trak Lock sights and Armor Tuff Burnt Bronze finish. Good advice on deciding on a pattern or particular shotgun make. I did that 30 years ago....870. Thirty years ago the Mossberg 500 were rattle traps and jammed a lot. We deer hunters in the circles I ran mostly used the 870 here in Ohio back in the day.

[@M50A1]

I'll get a Mossberg after I get my Ruger 10/22

[@anthonyn.3575]

+Brainless Shotgun I got the Ruger 10/22 "take down" model. I'm sure it's functionality and reliability is as good as the standard 10/22. The thing is awesome and accurate as heck. Love it & highly recommend it !!! I'm thinking about getting a shotgun, a shorter barrel one for home defense. Any recommendation?

[@M50A1]

ANTHONY N. im not that knoweldgeable in home defence shotguns but a remington 870 with a shorter barrel seems good enough

[@S0cualm3nace]

+ANTHONY N. Both mossberg and the Remington are great weapons. If I were you I would look for a used 870 police magnum. They are top of the line 870 assembled in their own section of the plant with extra quality and slightly upgraded parts. They will cost u a bit new, but used you can get one for $200-$250 and it will last forever. The Wilson combat are also great like shown here but super expensive.

[@adrenalineadict8182]

Dude u will love ur 10/22 ive had one for two years and maby 2 jams freakin reliable

[@M50A1]

The Gavin Show nice

[@nknasi]

fantastic info throughout, but that evil slow-motion laugh at the end made the whole video.

[@DaMadDad]

I love my 590 as much as I love my wife and kids. My buddy has the 870 I almost got one, boy am I glad I went with Mossberg. Plus I heard Remington QC has really gone down the last 10 years. That’s just what I heard

[@cheifbabysteps4341]

Remington 870 all the way

[@8MetalMike8]

+Cheif Babysteps Nah man, Mossberg 590A1 :D

[@chasefreeman1492]

+8MetalMike8 870 for life

[@silverback7659]

+8MetalMike8 Browning bps for me

[@Harpazo_to_Yeshua]

Mossberg 590.

[@haroldakilbride9215]

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[@Scotty519]

I have watched this video a couple of times. I still have no idea which shotgun you prefer! (probably the point).

[@hickok45]

+Scotty519 IT's because I like both. We're mostly about pointing out the positives and negatives on firearms, not dramatic bashing of firearms that many thousands of people have found to work quite well for them.

[@Scotty519]

Thanks for making videos! I have been watching you for about 4 years and I still find new content to watch on the channel.

[@MrJonesywales]

+Scotty519 scotty, you want a remington scotty

[@generalcaeser9176]

+Scotty519 Remington all the way! Oh, and Hickok45 is the BOSS! =)

[@HeavyMental1000]

+Scotty519 Personally, I think he the Mossburg is superior in every way. Ambidextrous safety, no risk of getting your thumb bit off by the pesky shell elevator. I own that very same 590a1USSM. I feel like its the finest pump action shotgun on the planet. In the Marine Corps we had 870s and they were cool...until I got my hands on the Mossburg.

[@tykit9230]

Marine veteran here, Was on Sea Duty from 88-90. In security forces school we used the 870 and the 1911 45. Soon as we got to the ship we got M9 Berettas the M590 Riot Control shotgun. The 870 was just fine but The 590 was fantastic!

[@mardamek]

Not being a gun guy, I have watched these Mossberg vs Remington videos over the years and not given too much thought about which is better. Up to now they both were more or less the same for me. Watching this again today and paying close attention to the differences he mentioned, there is a clear winner for me here, which is the Mossberg. It is more of an AK type shotgun - simple and practical, easy to maintain (for example, replacing the extractor with only turning a screw and taking it out vs involving a gunsmith for doing the same job on the Remington). Just my two cents - from a guy that's not a gun person but is considering his options once the gun license gets approved.

[@ReverendBrown97]

5.56x45mm NATO FMJ he means ak shotgun in terms of simplicity and reliability not function

[@ReverendBrown97]

5.56x45mm NATO FMJ ok

[@mardamek]

@@ReverendBrown97 Thanks for pitching in. That's exactly what I meant when comparing the Mossberg to an AK.

[@ndomakongsuh936]

To be completely honest I wouldn't trust my 870 for any home defense. Could just be my shotgun but it doesn't extract too well and like jonnebanan said the trigger guard safety. in my opinion the Mossberg's much easier to see and sometimes I forget to put my 870 on safe because its not in plain sight. Never had a problem with a Mossberg and its much smoother than the 870.

[@benjaminluera4826]

I purchased the Mossberg 88 just for fun at a great price point for home self defense and added on the 18" barrel that Mossberg sells for the 500 that fits perfect. I also like the fact that a lot of the 500 accessory parts are interchangeable with the 88.The 88 shoots great and my kids love it.Mossberg also has a great warranty on their guns. Had an ejector problem and when I sent it in they returned it with a brand new ejector and even replaced their 18" barrel at no cost. I have since shot close to 500 slug and buckshot loads through it without a problem.

[@Zooumberg]

That's one beautiful country. Look at all that green foliage. To own land like that in the UK you'd have to have some serious money behind you.

[@southplaq2887]

+Zooumberg Really? Why is that? I would say that most people in the USA own land that looks like that. Woods, open fields, etc.

[@ivanb4681]

+VladSparr 95 no we don't sucka

[@rocking195]

+VladSparr 95 Because it's an island and there ain't a whole lotta woods left. If you happen to own one of the portions of it that still has forests you're probably a rich man. On the other hand here in America, there's a whole lotta places you could find a plot of land like hickoks.

[@juangonzalez9848]

Have had a Remington 870 since I was 16. Never have I gotten pinched by the lifter.

[@cartershuldes3658]

My dad told me a story about how when he was 18, which was about 40 years ago, his father bought him a Remington 870 Wingmaster. A year later after a day of hunting, he put the gun (uncased) on top of his car while he put his stuff away. He then got in his car and drove home. While on the highway, he happened to look in his rearview mirror to see his gun (still uncased) skidding down the pavement at 60 mph. He, in his great brilliance, picked the gun up, loaded it, and shot it. It worked flawlessly. He never brought it in for maintenance, still uses the gun today, and has never had a single issue with it. I like to run my fingers down the gouges in the steel and wood. Nothing will convince me that Wingmasters are anything but the best gun to buy. Mine is exceeding my expectations.

[@CuttingEdgeWorks]

Great video! Both shotguns are great...but the Mossberg has a better design.

[@XxBigDAWG22xX]

+Calvin Lippert not really the Mossberg has the upper hand in safety and action release which alone can save you a second or two In a defense situation and can save your life. if you didn't notice he talked about the positioning of those the fact the extractor can be changed in your home. you can load shells while loading easier. the only good thing he said on the 870 was the sights.

[@123s453e56a6l]

+Custom Edge Works Both are machines. Both are reliable and rugged but both will malfunction.

[@Rook9696]

i've seen him miss that gong with rifles, yet he nails it with a bead sight on a mossberg.

[@SandSoldierPrep]

Hi Hickok, and John, I have been a huge fan of yours since the .44 mag at long range video when you shot it at 230 yards, which was very cool!!! But I (digress), I still very much appreciate your videos, and I know that I speak for most of the folks that watch your channel!! So thank you and John, and God bless you both!!!

[@unitedgray]

If you want to put a pistol grip stock on your shotgun, then buy an 870. That is one of the only advantages the 870 has. The Mossberg comes out on top in almost every other conceivable category.

[@unitedgray]

Semper FI tactical Please explain.

[@unitedgray]

Semper FI tactical Your intelligence is astounding.

[@jonathanh6660]

+Semper FI tactical Are you in the Coast Guard? USMC uses both the Mossberg 500 and the 590a1 as well as the Benelli M4. The Mossy 500 was the only shotgun to pass the US Army endurance tests. I use both the Mossberg 590 and a Remington 870. The 870 is my goto wing gun. The 590 is my first choice for a self defense scattergun.

[@unitedgray]

Semper FI tactical You are an idiot.

[@LawlessNate]

+Semper FI tactical - "mossbergs are about $200 new theyre cheap" You mean the maverick 88, which was purposely made at that level of quality to be affordable? If you're going to compare the 870 to the 500, then compare it to the 500 or the 590/590a1, not the purposely cheap maverick 88. - "870's are the high end, reliable, heavily modifiable and combat ready shotguns. theyre more expensive ($550) new" You can find 870s for a lower price then that and 590a1s for a higher price then that. - " function smoother, very low maintenece and extremely durable for all combat environments." Both the 870 and the 500/590 are low maintenance and durable. Both are smooth to pump, but if you believe the 870 to be smoother then so be it. - " thats why majority use 870's as well as i do." The majority of who? That's not very specific. More 870s have been produced, but almost as many mossberg 500s/590s have been made as remington 870s.