His TRUTH About Dramageddon 2 - Live Chat With Gabriel Zamora {PART 2}

[@jenluv]

*NOTE* To be VERY clear, Gabriel does NOT support James's choices after No More Lies with regard to his interactions with minors. Gabriel saw James's interactions with Sam (both were 19 at the time) as appropriate dating behavior. Sam contacted James, went to his room of his own accord, and kissed James after James asked if it was okay. This account is from Sam himself. We have discussed on this channel that there was still an issue with power dynamic that James did not understand at the time. That being said, Sam later said that James was not inappropriate with him. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT to recognize that these events are BEFORE James admitted to inappropriate interactions with minors. Any defense Gabriel has of James is from BEFORE his attraction to minors became public. Gabriels feelings about that will be addressed in the 4th (and final) part of the interview where he talks about his current feelings about James, but we aren't there yet. I love that there is so much debate going on and that people have different opinions and feelings. That's what this is all about, presenting the information so YOU can decide what you think. If you could please be respectful of each other, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you for watching.

[@neffyg35]

Honestly Gabriel is a lesson in why popping off at the mouth never does you any good. This interview series honestly isn't doing him any favors but I know that's not your intention. You want to get a full story from all involved.

[@marzman4]

​@@neffyg35yes considering Jeffree has been speaking about the issue again more frequently and especially recently I think it's important to view all sides and get a bit a clarity of the current aftermath. I think this is just a slow burn for a potential dramageddon 3 tho cause why is everyone talking Abt James again?

[@neffyg35]

​@@marzman4 I think because James is trying to make a come back. I know he never really left but this is more like trying to get back to the height he was at. There was that vanity fair article a while back that was absolute garbage and I think he is launching make up.

[@marzman4]

​@@neffyg35 well let's just pray it doesn't sell well. I'm still quite baffled he still has a platform tbh.

[@Xxmilkshake202xX]

@@jenluv He did support Jeffree Star knowing he is a racist piece of garbage. (He said as much on Twitter. Just because he felt liked to by Manny and Co. doesn’t negate the racist things he heard Jeffree say with his own two ears.) He supported James. He supported Nikita. Gabriel is either a terrible person like the company he keeps or he has a big picker and can overlook deplorable behavior.

[@Cheesewizzzzkers]

The fact that we are still learning new information about this situation all these years later is so wild 😅

[@jenluv]

Along with the pinned post, I wanted to thank everyone who have shared both critical and complimentary feedback on the interview. I hear and appreciate the concerns from those disappointed that I didn’t push back harder. The clips in the video were added intentionally, by me, to provide more context and present multiple perspectives. I thought that this would be sufficient in showing you that I saw the other side of the situation. In hindsight, I feel like a voiceover would have been more effective so that my personal intention would be clear. As I'm sure you know, real people and stories are rarely black and white, but almost always shades of grey. With real people, there are no perfect heroes or villains. My goal is always to present the complexities so we can all understand the events better, not to tell you who to like and who to dislike. I challenge you to remember that nice is different than good, bad people can be right sometimes, good people can be wrong and of course, vice versa. What matters most is presenting the truth, and I’ll continue striving to make better content. Your feedback helps me grow, and I deeply appreciate it. Mad love, Jen

[@neffyg35]

@@jenluv I think what I would have liked more than a voice over was you responding to what he said right then and there to him. You can let him speak his view but also present facts to him for him to respond with his perspective of what he saw then. That would have been far better

[@jenluv]

@neffyg35 Of course that would have been ideal.

[@neffyg35]

@@jenluv hope to see more interviews from you :)

[@jenluv]

@neffyg35 thank you! I hope to do more! I'm going to keep trying to get better at it! :)

[@tastycar]

Loved the first part...am in the middle of part 2 . I know all of this at the end of the day is inconsequential in the grand scheme of the world. That being said, it's very entertaining and I've loved every second of it

[@gabrielzamora]

Jen thank you for this conversation! Im loving this and the 1st part. I respect your level of knowledge and this new high level of investigation and production into this subject. It’s honestly so fun reminiscing over the drama with someone who will keep it 💯 with me. To the ppl in the comments, let’s just remember the definitions of bias and credible. Am I biased? Absolutely. Am I liar? No. Also I’m a chismosa who loves the drama 🤭 so let’s not act all self righteous in the comments like we can’t be messy on the internet cus sometimes we HAVE TIME 😘

[@fashionlover5195]

Keep doing you Gabriel! The comments are giving brainwashed.

[@theautisticside]

Gabriel: You are right, there is difference between being biased and being credible. But credibility is not just about being honest. Being credible comes from not engaging in mind reading regarding other people's thoughts, motivations and intentions. Someone is more credible when they have a realistic view of their knowledge, abilities and failures. When they openly admit their assumptions and conclusions are flawed and incomplete. You may very well believe that what you're saying is true. Just like someone can be mistaken rather than lying. But that doesn't make you credible. I'm actually very open to hearing what you have to say. To be honest though, not rehashing this story publicly after so many years -- and instead focusing on creating better things would make you more credible.

[@Kate.g.]

So true, you are biased, yes and it’s 100% normal everybody is, you are human, I am impress by your honesty and « ok I do this it’s not the best, but I do it, I learn from this, I don’t hide what happen » we need more person with that thinking! I really like and enjoy this conversation 💛

[@hopeelliott145]

Everybody in the comments has time! So I don’t get the criticism or doubt.

[@SimplyyBreon]

Don’t read the comments babe. Share your truth, people will maintain whatever opinions they have of you. Not many are interested in hearing out people taking accountability.

[@hollimartin]

I mean.. many things can be true at the same time.. Sam could have willingly gone to the hotel room and James still could have begged him to stay, essentially making Sam feel “trapped” to avoid awkwardness or confrontation. Staying there any amount of time after you’re ready to leave before finally getting the strength to leave will make it seem like you were “trapped”. To me, it sounds like James could have been using some minor manipulation tactics to get what he wanted. In his mind, he could have been thinking.. “if I just get him to stay a little longer..”, or “if we can just cuddle a little more he will get comfortable”. Saying, “but you said you’d come watch this movie with me”, is making it seem like Sam was obligated to stay and finish the move.. which he was not. It seems like James didn’t lock him in the room and refuse to let him leave, but he did try to guilt trip him in to staying.. even by his own admission. Also a little off topic, but it connects; No one has been sued for defamation. And that could be for a number of reasons.. cost being a big one. All of these influencers and KZbinrs have a lot of money but it could go on forever with no resolution and just loss of funds on all sides. BUT, it could also be because none of it has been lies.. or a at least the majority has not been a lie.. just different perceptions of each event. Obviously Tati views what happened one way, where Rich Lux has a different view, and Jeffrey and Gabriel each have their own views from what they have all seen in person and online/through contacts.

[@MoonBeamsChild]

Exactly!!! I truly believe James still was still in the wrong.

[@officialthehandsbigadventures]

I agree. I think Tati spoke what she felt like was her truth at the time.

[@deltawhiskey1998]

James was a very entitled and very young human who became very famous during a very important developmental stage of life. I don’t think the average person has any concept of what existing in the entertainment industry & LA is really like behind the scenes - people talk about abuse of power & power dynamics now but that is also the status quo behind the scenes. and we know James had felt hurt and used by men playing the part to get close to the fame. I don’t think James was deliberately manipulating anyone from his POV. And I think Sam is an autonomous human who was attracted to the fame and attention. I’m not saying there’s a wrong or right, I’m saying we learn by doing the hard things and one of the most important lessons is to recognize when something isn’t working for you & recognizing that and doing the work to learn and become a better version of yourself

[@twinkletoes6290]

⁠@@MoonBeamsChild esp w everything w now know about him, I find everything Tati said in her first two videos to be 100% believable and credible! Ppl forget about the second one she made right after Bye Sister where she backed everything up, doubled down, said she witnessed it all w her own eyes, that she made the decision to make the video herself and nobody else was behind it! All quite the opposite of what she later claimed when she was trying to blame Shane and Jeffree to save her career, siding w James, saying she’s involved in legal action. Only for James to get exposed and busted over and over and over again for going after and being involved w minors, going after straight and young men who were confused and struggling w their sexuality, all of the things she witnessed herself and described in Bye Sister!! She really looked like a bloody idiot then and has continued to since then!

[@twinkletoes6290]

@@deltawhiskey1998 there is no defending or excusing away the disgusting crap James has done over the years. He’s a predator.

[@amyberberich78]

RichLux being friends with Shane and Jeffree and saying he has great discernment is really funny though

[@JenniferLequire8693]

Right? Because he actually knows them in person and we don't. I don't believe any of it except the parts that have been explicitly admitted to.

[@shayoway7414]

But you worship Tati

[@TheVanelf]

After all these years of Dramaggedon, all these videos and new insights, my impression still is that the public opinion, as usual, is harder on women than men.

[@pepperpaige203]

This is such an excellent point.

[@zouz8195]

I do understand she’s older & should have known better. Mistakes were made. But I also understand what alcohol, stress & misleading words can do to a person. Calling her a “woman scorned” dude no. She messed up but she hasn’t done anything truly evil or even remotely close to what Shane or J* has done. Or James.

[@whititah]

Yes 👏 🎉!!

[@KagomeYasha023]

🎯

[@jvcastaneda1]

I think you need to ask yourself who the public is though? Who is audience? I am almost 100% certain that the viewers are mostly women so your statement is true but it is the women audience that has decided to be the judge in this.

[@megansslore]

It is incredibly sad, but not surprising, that the real victims (of James and Jeffree) were completely overshadowed. I really appreciate Jen shining light on their stories in her coverage of the situation.

[@JNB520]

Good comment and you're right.❤

[@awesomenesschannel4159]

I still want to see what happened with manny mua and Laura Lee. Jefree did smthn

[@aishaluve]

I find it hard to believe that someone who is so mature likes to “dip his finger” in other people’s tea publicly. I don’t think Gabriel has grown from this. In some weird way, I think he’s proud to be involved. That’s just the feeling I get from this two part series so far.

[@Xxmilkshake202xX]

Gabriel is blaming Tati for the same thing he did in Dramageddon I. The hypocrisy is wild.

[@RP_76]

Yep

[@JessicaHauserman]

Sooo true. BUT here's the thing. Here's the difference. Gabriel owned up to it. He said what he did wrong, he talked to people about it, he made amends with Jeffree and Jeffree even put him in his campaign. They all sat down and talked it out. Tati can't do that. Tati can't hold herself accountable because it's easier for her mental health to push the blame onto others than to accept that she is ultimately the one that caused all this and she can never take that back. Gabriel can have a real honest talk about the drama. Tati will NEVER do that, because she knows at the end of the day all roads lead back to her choice of making that video. And she can't handle that. I actually watch and like Tati and her content, but she's always been a bit delusional when it comes to accountability. She would rather not talk about something if it makes her look (or more important, makes her feel) like she did something wrong. She would rather ignore the negativity. Gabriel will talk about it and squash it and move on.

[@sandy_carpetsthesecond5013]

Hindsight is 20/20, I guess.

[@zouz8195]

This is a good point. But I will say Tati was calling him a predator not just a bad friend.

[@elizabethnino3977]

@@JessicaHauserman100% agree

[@melrose985]

I'm glad you got this opportunity. But, this guy is MESSY AF and I have hard time believing any of it.. but I'll take it into consideration 😂

[@GracielaDixon]

they're all messy, some covert others overt.

[@shayoway7414]

Tati is messy. Get out of the cult

[@GlamWithMarti]

He is! Saying “I don’t know what James did after ‘Bye Sister’” with a huge smile on his face. He is still actively supporting and following James Charles AND it looks like he also follows and supports James’ Painted makeup line. Gabriel still follows and supports both so…yeah, he’s messy and I think he was trying to save face for Jen and her audience but like- which one is it? Keep it 100- I totally agree with you. I can NEVER trust Gabriel. He’s always getting involved in stuff for no reason.

[@melrose985]

@shayoway7414 dude they're all messy. I don't even follow Tati. Jeffree and James are more culty and trust me I don't follow them either. But thanks for your weird comment I guess 😆 that's your idea of a cult? Lol looking through your past comments on Jen's channel, you just really hate Tati. Are you mad bro? 🤣 it's not that deep

[@beamillan93]

He's messy? Tati is a grown a$$ woman who started this hate and has the nerves to ask people to stop the hate? She is the biggest mess on all this!

[@neffyg35]

A part of me doesn't like Gabriel, like idk he just comes off as an instigator. Like I get his name was brought up but instead of being like hey I'm not getting into this he just keeps doing stuff to be more involved than he should have been. Idk that's just how i feel

[@nbla39]

I agree

[@monicapatton1405]

For attention and views. Not dissing that, he was young and that was his job, just an observation. Capitalized on the tea imo.

[@motherofwarriors456]

While I get your point, and not every person is for everyone. I'm not a fan of Gabriel never seen a single one of his videos I'm probably to old for his content but one thing I'll give him is Yeh he's an instigator but he owns it he doesn't pretend to be any different than his authentic self, doesn't pretend to play nice to be popular. We need more people in the world who are 100% who they are regardless if it makes others dislike him

[@neffyg35]

​@@motherofwarriors456 you know what, I can't disagree with you. At least he is honest about being a shit stir-er😂😂

[@alphazunitee]

He's so attention seeking and money hungry

[@stephaniecruz3164]

I almost TRIPPED over myself trying to click on this video 👏👏👏 we're LOCKED IN Edit after watching: When Gabriel was saying the waiter "went up there by his choice", I wish Jen would have pointed out that James has a position of power and privilege which can influence another person's actions. He had already given that waiter attention and then continued to give him attention which only added to the influence of coercion.

[@pineapplepapercrafts]

It seems like there are going to be more parts. Based off the pinned comment Jen has. So I feel like there will be more....

[@EmmieHunny]

EXACTLY. I do feel like some of Gabriel’s perspective on this was from the perspective of him also being young (20) at the time and also a celebrity with influence he doesn’t understand. It also aligns with him still blaming Tati for clicking “post.” I think he still isn’t mature enough to understand the power of manipulation and influence, even unintentional or subliminal. I take his words here with a few grains of salt.

[@lindsayvicars]

Why do some people refuse to see that this wasn’t over vitamins

[@neffyg35]

Because Gabriel opened his big mouth and made it about vitamins because he didn't fully know Tati and James' relationship. Hell he only met her once as he says and was already bias in favor towards James.

[@nicoleck9288]

EXACTLY!

[@dii_dzej]

I am not a Tati fan nor do I agree with how she want about the whole thing. But... It is clear from Gabriels Statement that he did/does not understand the issue - how he sees the sponsorships. So James integrity is two tickets worth and his opinion could be bought like this. He did not try those vitamins and he was promoting them like the best thing ever. That is one of the issues I think Tati had

[@neffyg35]

@@dii_dzej I remember people questioning that back then. Like how can you give a real review of a supplement after a week of use? You won't be able to full tell if you sleep was better because of the gummies, how your week went, or something else.

[@jaybee4118]

It’s why I don’t watch the majority of beauty influencers. I don’t trust most of them as far as I can throw them.

[@twinkletoes6290]

@@neffyg35 and promoting a sleep aide to his audience full of children! That’s even worse than not trying it and recommending it, getting ppl to go out and spend their hard earned money on something you’re giving your approval for, when you’ve never tried it, risking them losing money! But also promoting a sleep aide to your underage audience! Like wtf!

[@arianapatricia10]

Because She considered him as a little brother ,He would call her "mom " so for him to go with the competition was the thing that hurt her.Not only money but friendship

[@evacaridad]

Up to a point based on Tatis video she and her husband did helped James reach a big audience, to the point of even reading his contracts to be sure he got the best deal. I get the Coachella situation but he at least owed her as a thank you for her contribution to his success to at least let her know the situation before doing it. She didn’t owned James, but she certainly contributed to his success in the early days. Aside from that, the whole situation was chaos after chaos, definitely this was not about vitamins, but we might never know how deep it went

[@alexandrrra5627]

After watching hours of this interview with Gabriel, in my opinion the biggest mistake of Tati was to associate herself with people that have personal brands that are opposite of hers. I feel like she started to be friends with J*, Manny, Laura and etc to be in a club of popular kids and to get more clout in the beauty community. All of those people are self admittedly messy, dramatic and Tati was not perceived that way before she started hanging out with them. Her audience warned her about J* and the likes, she didn't listen and almost lost her career, credibility and trust of her audience in the turmoil of the drama. If she would just keep doing her thing she'd be one of the legends and ogs of beauty community like Marlena. Appreciate Gabe for being transparent and sharing his side, he seems like a genuine person and it's so interesting to listen to him. Kudos to you, Jen! Great work putting all of this together 👏🏻 I cackled at Star wars like music in the intro

It's more nuanced than "she's upset because of vitamins". She was hearing horrible stories from Shane and Jeffrey, she witnessed first hand James Charles' behaviour at her birthday party and other private social events. The vitamins were just the last straw for her, she thought "this is the real him, ungrateful and using me until I was useful to launch his career to than backstabbing me when he doesn't need me anymore". Shane and Jeffrey capitalized on that and she was a fool to let them manipulate and push her into doing bye sister. She should have known better but so did James Charles. And Shane and Jeffrey hid immediatly after when the public opinion shifted, both ready to launch their series and that cash grab of a pallette! Also, Gabriel believes Jeffrey on his word without doubting him because they had "no beef". Really?

[@kittysnotebook]

Definitely. I don't understand how people can't see these

[@naamahnotorious955]

I still feel Jeffrey and Shane are the true puppetmasters of the whole situation. Did Tati make horrible mistakes. Yes. Is she responsible for that? Yes. But was she being manipulated by that audiotape. Also very much yes.

[@jaybee4118]

There’s a little bit of wrong with pretty much everyone involved. Even the audience to an extent. But Jeffree? Honestly, I think the bulk of blame lies at his feet. Edit to add, and I do think James Charles abused his power in regards to getting interest from men, how far all that goes… hard to know. But we do know he was sending messages to kids and crossing at least some boundaries. How far did the boundaries get crossed?

[@angela-thebooknerdess2110]

@naamahnotorious955 They are still puppeteering the situation imho​

[@naamahnotorious955]

@@angela-thebooknerdess2110 What do you mean by that? Because I haven't been keeping up with any of them.

[@Forever-And.Ever-Amen]

Oooof... i feel like being so candid and giddy backfired for Gabriel. He thought he was spilling tea but what he really did was reveal how many strings he pulled and his involvement. I feel so bad because he looks so satisfied with himself during this interview.

[@-moonlightt]

HUGE props for Gabriel for “keeping it 100” in this series! So much more respect for him. Even when it’s uncomfortable he just tells it like it is even if it doesn’t make him look the best! ❤❤❤

[@rachelthomasrusso]

There are parts of Gabriel that I find soo dislikeable...He stirs up things just for shits and giggles, just because it's fun for him...And I truly dislike when a man mocks a woman's tears.

[@rachelthomasrusso]

Gosh...I'm reacting in real time as I'm watching this video...and I feel so sorry for Jen 😂. He just talks and talks in cercles in this part 2, his acting comes though, very dramatic, pulling faces, cos' he just knows how to spin it, admits how much of a shit stirrer he is, is extremely petty and says "fuck Tati" but still expects her to contact him and apologize?! 🤣 For what, again?

[@neffyg35]

@@rachelthomasrusso I also don't like bring her age into it. Just because she is older doesn't mean she can't be hurt and has to just suck it up.

[@Anastasia_Prince]

1:00:42 well that’s rich, talking about “gleam in the eyes” and being “too proud of yourself” coming from Gabriel. How many years later, yet he is sitting here, SO proud of himself reminiscing about his glorious days of getting into drama and helping JC. 0 remorse, 100 vanity. Where is the supposed adult he considers himself to be? Is he in the room with us? Jen, I have utmost respect for you and what you do, so it is not a criticism in your direction, but I wish you challenged him more during the interview. Even all these years later, and with the power of hindsight, his POV seems so one-sided and ultimate, yet convenient in omitting certain facts, when beneficial to his narrative. Once again, something he accused Tati of. Not to say she is an innocent victim here, but the hypocrisy is just astonishing. “I have a good eye for manipulation, but I never manipulate myself!” Honestly the funniest thing during the whole interview. Nevertheless, thank you Jen for arranging this. Wish you could talk to the Tati the same way, and get her side of the story

[@yvonnekilla3971]

That manipulation sentence immediately knew was bullsht, he most definitely plays that game

[@nicoleck9288]

I literally choked on my coffee this morning when I heard that! Who is he trying to convince here?

[@monz]

JENNNN I love your long documentaries and I’m so excited for this one!!! Thank you for lighting up my day a bit with this video. Going to relax and just listen. XO 💋

[@JustMeBieth]

Imagine having Gabriel's ego. Imagine being that sassy, condescending, self-obsessed, gossipy, immature, all while relentlessly pot-stirring feeling you're the supreme arbiter of mature relationship dynamics, the ultimate problem solver, and glue that holds it all together. 😂

[@melodiemacdonald2811]

It feels like Gabriel enjoys being involved in the drama 🎭 People were really hurt during all of this. It’s so sad that this is still a hot topic 5 years later.

[@Eirwyn]

After watching part 1 I found Gabriel to be judgmental, very different from your analytical and companionate point of view. 🤷🏻‍♀️ The way he talks about things comes off as "I'm better than you."

[@TheRustyTrike]

“You ever just have the time?” I’m petty. I’ll make the time. 😬😂

[@monicapatton1405]

😂

[@NurymarPacheco]

I have always found it interesting that Tati was fine with James being a “horrible human being” until she thought he messed with her money and all of a sudden then he was always awful and she needed to air all his dirty laundry. She was out for revenge. It was so cringy.

[@8saudia]

I feel that we keep dissecting this case with overlooking the obvious, Tati worked really hard to create her brand and after JS's accusations on JC, who at the time was her protege, she wouldn't allow her name to be dragged in the mud with him, and honestly good for her, behind every drama JS is there stirring up things, to stay relevant, he is doing the same thing right now, No one is innocent, but I kind of think everyone involved spills tea that is half truth and half lies. Nevertheless great work on this Jen, your attention to detail on all the series you are presenting is truly commendable!

[@twinkletoes6290]

Tati is a big girl. She made the decision to do this all on her own. She said as much in her Bye Sister follow up video, the one everyone conveniently forgets. Tati said in it she witnessed James doing and saying these things firsthand herself and that she had issues w it for awhile. JS hadn’t made any accusations against James at the time. Tati was the one to do that. Tati just happened to be around when the group of them who were friends were privately discussing the problems they were having w James, the things they were witnessing and hearing firsthand, comparing and contrasting stories to see if he was doing those things and acting that way around everyone else, or if it was just around that person (so Tati was wondering if it was James was behaving, acting, doing and saying those things around just her. JS was wondering if it was just around him. So on and so forth). At which time they discovered he was behaving & acting that way, doing and saying those things around ALL of them, that they’d ALL witnessed things firsthand for themselves, that they ALL had major concerns, were uncomfortable, we’re seeing red flags galore and had alarm bells blaring everywhere, taking major issues w what they were experiencing & witnessing firsthand! Once they knew that everyone was experiencing, nothing and witnessing all the same things, that they all were taking issue w it, had major concerns, were uncomfortable w so many things, etc, they felt comfortable enough to open up to each other about what they were each individually experiencing & witnessing, the concerns they were having, things they were noticing, problems they were having, red flags they were seeing everywhere, etc. It put things into perspective for all of them, let them know James was really out of control, that he was not behaving and conducting himself appropriately, that there were major concerns to be had, that there were many red flags indicating something way more serious was afoot! Which, it most definitely was, as we all witnessed that play out and are STILL seeing it!! Tati didn’t tell everyone else’s stories, experiences, what they’d witnessed firsthand in her videos. She stuck to what SHE ALONE experienced and witnessed firsthand, HER concerns, the issues SHE had w James, the red flags SHE was seeing, etc! Nobody influenced her to make that video! Again, she said as much in both Bye Sister and her followup where she reinforced everything, stuck to all she had said and double & tripled down on everything! Tati’s decisions and actions fall square on HER shoulders, nobody else’s! Shes desperate to TRY to blame it on someone else, anyone else! And has made an utter FOOL of herself trying to do that, losing even more credibility and exposing how she’s NOT genuine or honest, how easily she lies and that she’s more than willing to lie and to point the finger at someone else if it means she’s off the hook, escapes accountability and responsibility, doesn’t suffer any consequences or ramifications, can portray herself as the “innocent victim who’s been taken advantage of and been wronged” and throw someone else under the bus in order to TRY (& fail!) to save her reputation, ego and career!!

[@jomichelle8462]

So Gabriel tells tati to get online and expose a predator, but also it's her fault for exposing what she thought was a predator due to jeffree and Shane?

[@twinkletoes6290]

In the end, all that really matters is that *James Charles is indeed an actual predator!* The fact that he’s been allowed to continue on as he has and hasn’t faced serious consequences, ramifications and has faced *ZERO legal repercussions* is disturbing, *absolutely unacceptable and should not be tolerated!*

[@JustMeBieth]

WHY ON EARTH WOULD TATI GIVE GABRIEL AN APOLOGY?!!! That is the craziest thing I heard this entire video. The ego of this manchild. Gabriel YOU butted in publicly to demean and belittle Tati in a situation YOU HAD NOTNING TO DO WITH and she owes YOU an apology? This boy is wild. 😂 Plus him calling Tati petty?! HIM?!! 😂

[@neffyg35]

Yeah that part I'm like why would she apologize to you. She met you once, you stirred up some shit, made her out to be petty and that this was over vitamins.

[@Eirwyn]

I can't believe he expected an apology. 😭

[@JustMeBieth]

Exactly. Like you drug yourself into this situation and you're mad and bitter she had something to say? Mess. And watching it felt like Jen should have acknowledged how preposterous that was in some way but she seemingly agreed, which took me by complete surprise because like, how? How could any rationale, sane person think Tati owes Gabriel an apology? If anything Gabriel owes Tati an apology for publicly dragging her over a situation that had nothing to do with him and then maybe she could acknowledge how she hurt him AFTERWARDS.

[@notjustanotherbrickinthewall]

I don’t like Gabriel at all. It’s very clearly how he plays and stirs all the pots. He may be honest about how messy he is but it’s no excuse.

[@buffyrocks0149]

24.48 in... James thought that the guy was "VERY, VERY STRAIGHT... " So Tati and Jeffree Star were telling the truth about James Charles predatory behaviour towards young STRAIGHT guys...

[@EllyannTJ]

There are missing pieces from all of them. I honestly don’t understand in all of this circular discussions that I am not hearing what Tati actually did that was wrong. She said James Charles was attracted to one of the waiters/busboys. She told James he was under age and he replied that he didn’t care because he was a star. If James Charles did what he admitted to, victimizing some of his fans, no one should be protecting him. That is predatory behaviour. That is what Tati was addressing. And during that time, seemed like she wanted to protect him from doing something criminal. The others just seem to want to cover it up and in my mind that is unacceptable behaviour, protecting a possible predator.

[@jenluv]

Just to clarify one point, Sam (the waiter) was 19, the same age as James at the time.

[@dtierney6137]

She told him he was straight, big difference

[@Uncha1n3d]

Tati only revealed all of that because she felt betrayed over freaking gummies. If she would have been such a morally inclined person, she would have distanced herself from James before he gave her a reason, simply because what he was doing was objectively wrong. She acknowledges that she was trying to "protect" him. She's just as self serving and slimy as everyone else who was involved in this circus.

[@danielgalvan394]

I’m sorry but Gabriel is so weird cuz did Jeffree not instigate that entire situation and basically shift the entire opinion on James? But he’s more upset at Tati because she mentioned his name lol.

[@court.branch]

I think he's more upset with Tati for not taking responsibility for her choices/actions. Even though Jeffree instigated somewhat, Tati also only shared half truths purposely to paint a very specific picture that she is innocent surrounded by villians. Tati and Jeffree being the same age, and the elders of the group, orcherstraing so much behind the scenes like its some sort of high school musical drama.. just gives me the ick. Jeffree has always been this person, while Tati is acting like she had no idea this could all be some outrageous story just to promote a "conspiracy" which just so happened to be the makeup collection getting promoted at the time. Idk it's all crazy lol.

[@danielgalvan394]

@@court.branch but clearly not taking accountability isn’t a turn off for him since he was hanging out w Jeffree a couple months after by sister lol

[@loriru3135]

This was eye opening; also the best video that’s been done on Dramageddon. This is when I started watching you-tube so there was so much back-story that went over my head. I’m shocked when I see comments on these videos asking why this is still relevant. It is for people like me who had zero clue on what was really going on or who was most likely believable. Those days were like the soap opera of the century was occurring on you-tube. It was too bad when it came out that some young boys were getting hurt by this.

[@AntarieMoo]

I am very sorry, but this series gives me the creeps. It's hours of this person appearing overly satisfied with himself, while talking about events that had a devastating effect on the life of at least two people. Regardless of what we think of those people, there was a human cost, and some empathy wouldn't hurt while discussing the topic. Instead, all I see from Gabriel in the videos and in the comment section is zero self-awareness and an overinflated ego. Safe to say this is not for me. I'll be back when we return to normal content.

[@twinkletoes6290]

Neither James nor Tati deserve any sympathy on any of this.

[@AntarieMoo]

@@twinkletoes6290I wrote empathy, not sympathy. You don't seem to know the difference and it's not my responsibility to educate you. I'll give you a hint, though: having empathy means you can dislike someone and still not go out of your way to use their private life for gossip to your own benefit, like Gabriel did here.

[@nopenope3632]

Jeffree having accused James of trapping and coercing men into staying in rooms/forcing them to do things they didn't want do is such weird projection... obviously James ended up being guilty of gross things but the specifics of Jeffree's accusations are EXACTLY what men have come out against J Star for

[@megansslore]

THIS!

[@nopenope3632]

@@megansslore The video of him and his friend mocking a black out drunk/puking man who they just hooked up with while pushing him out of their house HAUNTS me

[@megansslore]

@nopenope3632 I think he's a deeply disturbed individual. Jeffree and James are both predatory and shouldn't be allowed to have their platforms (imo).

[@nopenope3632]

@@megansslore completely agree

[@augustoparada1]

@@megansslore YES

[@rebek18]

THIS VIDEO WAS SOOOOO GOOD! finally got some context and more answers to behind the scenes, maybe Gabriel doesn’t know everything 100 percent but we can infer so much from the info he does know for a fact. he seems extremely credible with how he recounts it all. Hope Dustin, Rich, Peter monn do reactions 🤓

[@rebecky5ever]

also gabriel mentioning the only sane thing in this whole debacle: going to a therapist

[@Xxmilkshake202xX]

It is weird that Gabriel always picks the problematic white men to support: Jeffree and James Charles. He seems to have bad judgement. He was also friends with Nikita.

[@twinkletoes6290]

Or, you could just leave race out of it, and say “he always picks the problematic ppl or problematic party”!

[@Deenique16]

It's not weird it's like a group of popular people that hang out with each other bc of status. They all tolerated each other until he found out who they really were.

[@Xxmilkshake202xX]

@@twinkletoes6290 You can make your OWN comment. My comment and observation stands.

[@dayeti6794]

Jen, You did a great job interviewing, bringing up to speed in presenting all of the back story and bringing in the context of everything. I hope this does incredibly well for you. 💜

[@haloo_holly]

I enjoyed hearing a different perspective on this topic and appreciated the editing. I watched all of this unfold in real time too so it's definitely interesting to see this all in hindsight and to see how those involved are still dealing with it currently.

[@imemilina]

“James Westbrook is parked outside of James house” goes straight into an ad. Girl you know how to set up the drama omg, that sent me.

[@adorab8011]

It’s sort of comical that Rich is saying Jeffree wasn’t threatened by James but also didn’t like having someone rival him. He wanted James taken down. That’s clear. I don’t think anyone is innocent in this but you can not tell me Jeffree didn’t benefit the most of James being taken out.

[@shayoway7414]

Tati gained millions of followers because are gullible and believed her white tears

[@mds8255]

Im sorry, I had never seen him before, so I have no preconceived notions of Gabriel, but with all due respect, I cannot believe a word from someone who somehow was in the middle of everything but yet talks for 3 hours and did nothing wrong. What an angel. He comes across as a clout chaser to me. Again, I have never seen a video about or of him. This is my first.

[@marzman4]

If you've never seen a video of him how could u come to this conclusion 🤡?

[@mds8255]

@@marzman4 I didn’t say I have never. I said I had never. Past tense. But all I’ve seen is the two part series we are both commenting on. I thought that went without saying (that I was watching this video), but I’ll make sure to be more clear next time. ❤

[@CentaurTesticles]

I heard Gabriel admit the things he shouldn’t have done in this interview, not sure what exactly you’re talking about. I also have never really watched his content either

[@JustMeBieth]

I believe Tati more than any of these immature, sassy, catty influencers tbh. Do I think she made mistakes, yes, but I think her heart was broken at the moment of posting her video, but it had always been in the right place. She was never and has never been in influencer drama outside of the James Charles stuff and always seemed to be levelheaded, mature, and wise. Gabriel is always involving himself in drama and is catty/messy. James is super arrogant and an actual predator as we have discovered since. Jefree Star is literally Satan. There are always three sides and the truth, but I feel Tati's is the closest to that truth.

[@damarysscaff4546]

My God your interviews are iconic! Gabriel has back NOTHHHING! Kudos to him! Love you so much!

[@Theprettyhomo100]

Girl the tea is hot on this beautiful Friday afternoon! Thank you Jen, Gabriel, & Rich!

[@Inverse1789]

Idk Jen I appreciate your efforts on shining ligth on everybody's part of the story but to me it really says a lot of Gabriel that he is so proud of directing no more lies...like ? Seems like we either never getting the truth about none of them or they are all terrible people.

[@jaybee4118]

Getting the truth and/or knowing what the truth is in a situation like this is virtually impossible. Even then it was impossible to know.

[@Anita-cp9ns]

I think Tati was right and this dude needs some help.. just go and see a therapist for yourself..

[@krystal37276]

So I've always gotten the impression that Gabriel Zamora is not credible with much. Am I missing something? I must be if Jen is doing this video. Off to google.

[@hanasong8296]

I would recommend watching the first part. I dont see anything hes lied about.

[@coffee8599]

I heard the issue was Mannys brother being a transphobe in dramageddon 1. The interview was so long im not sure if it got there but wasn't looking like it.

[@tishjanuary7379]

I don’t know if he’s an instigator but I would say it was very evident that he was biased towards James. That being said I haven’t watched the interview & don’t know if it’s still a lot of he said she said from both sides or if Gabrielle may have provided some sort of receipts that weren’t out before.

[@nbla39]

I agree. We will never really know the full truth but I always trusted Tati more than any of them. Maybe I'm just biased lol

[@motherofwarriors456]

Wouldn't say not credible, he's certainly not known for lying (never watched his content but know enough about him within the community drama) he doesn't shy from the dirt and loves to roll in the mud but doesn't make stuff up out the air he speaks loud when everyone else whispers some times he's told untruths and repeats them but will hold his hands up if he's got it wrong

[@KJBennettBeauty]

Ummmm...Gabriel is proud that he directed James Charles (an admitted sexual predator) to fight back after being exposed? So what about the video James deleted? The one where he ADMITS to being a sexual predator and apologizes to his "victims" (his words, not mine). So James Charles apologizes to the victims of his sexual abuse and then deletes the video, waits a week, then posts a video stating that none of what he already admitted to (and apologized for) is true. Did I get that in the correct order? And now, years later, when Gabriel is no longer relevant, he calls Tati a liar? This is some next-level bullsh*t to get attention, Gabriel. #Pathetic

[@motherofwarriors456]

The thing is when it comes to accusations false accusations are harmful to the genuine ones so it's better to clear up the false ones so the truthful ones stand out or people will always doubt the genuine victims

[@Xxmilkshake202xX]

Gabriel sided with a man he said was racist, then an alleged sexual predator. Gabriel is probably a trash person. He was friends with Nikita, too.

[@RP_76]

Couldn't agree with you more KJBennetBeauty.

[@mds8255]

Yeah… he is a predator. The details might have been wrong but the really important part is true.

[@antoniosantos9669]

@@KJBennettBeauty from what I’m getting, Gabriel was defending James before all the victims came towards, when it was just the waiter (I could be wrong)

[@khl1987]

Imo James could have just left Coachella. Instead he chose to deliberately hurt a friend, who was almost like a mother to him and who literally showed him how to make money on KZbin. Was her reason for being hurt a little childish? Yes, but still he knew she would be hurt and he could have JUST LEFT

[@nbla39]

I agree. Tati literally took him under her wing and he took advantage and stabbed her in the back.

[@theeluannesantos]

He also told her that he couldn’t promote her brand because his audience was too young for that.

[@Darima2]

Yes and even Jeffree Star who doesn't like her said in a podcast recently that he understood she was hurt over the lack of loyalty. I've always understood that too, I don't know why people don't have the empathy to understand that. If a friend that you helped a lot promoted a competitor or an enemy of yours, trust me most people would feel betrayed. . Most people, like Jeffree, thinks it was dumb to put out those two videos about James and then blaming Jeffree and Shane for it. I kind of agree because nothing good came from it.

[@monicapatton1405]

Agreed. My feelings would have been hurt too. I don’t think she would react the same way these days but it was a reaction in a moment in time & I get that.

[@neffyg35]

Agreed. Gabriel trying to shift the focus to the damn vitamins and make her look childish was foul. It wasn't the damn vitamins it was the lack of loyalty from someone that you would and have done the most for. Gabriel should have just shut up and this interview now makes me think less of him

[@PaperDolly86]

What an excellent interviewer you are, Jen!! You only spoke to clarify, move the story along, or ask questions. You let Gabriel speak freely in a non-biased space. Well done! 👏👏👏 Thank you!

[@nadiazanchetta1388]

WoW Jen! The series has been truly mind blowing and you brought this to us with your dedication and hard work and integrity 👏 We are truly grateful! Mad love ❤️

[@Dr_Ebtesam]

So this Zamora guy was the instigator and the director behind both dramageddones. And his online presence boosted big time by those dramas . He is still talking proudly about his twisted role in them.

[@jdbluestar23]

I’m confused. Why aren’t we calling out the obvious. Gabe said Dustin and rich told him a video was coming. They were in jeffrees pocket. Jeffree knew because he was allegedly behind it. And gave them the inside scoop

[@alyssabrown-carleton6173]

Thank you!

[@jaybee4118]

Eh, I take each part of this with a pinch of salt. It’s 5 years later, memories are easily mixed up even by people with great memories. Did they tell him a video was coming? Did they tell him that something was happening but didn’t say what, because maybe they did or didn’t know. I don’t fully trust someone so involved in drama etc to really tell the full truth all the time and never embellish. And sometimes those embellishments or retelling so with even slight errors can eventually warp the memory.

[@twinkletoes6290]

Tati did not just talk to those two drama channels. And all the drama channels were talking amongst themselves. Dustin and JS have also never got along really.

[@Paintthesewings]

He says Tati was gleeful about her views on Bye Sister but he’s gloating how he helped James. He needs to have several seats.

[@twinkletoes6290]

Right?!? Gloating about helping an actual predator try to manipulate ppl so he could get off the hook and continue on! And look at what he did after that! I’d be horrified that I played a role in that and knowing how many young men were taken advantage of, preyed upon and hurt after I played a role in helping James skate by and shake this scandal off! Not to mention, everyone says James “No More Lies” videos so-called “cleared his name”. It absolutely did NOT!! Not even close! Only gullible, naïve and unintelligent ppl who aren’t sharp, don’t pay attention, aren’t capable of critically thinking, don’t have a good memory & don’t remember things (& esp don’t remember them clearly & accurately!) and sheeple who are not capable or willing of thinking and standing on their own, willing & able to go against the grain and the herd, not blindly following the herd, fell for that gobshite and thought he “cleared his name” and “shut them all down”! All those ppl are complicit in allowing James to skate by and shake that scandal! Allowing him to continue on doing what he was doing and not only did he continue, he got worse and more brazen bc he then thought he was untouchable and everyone was praising him! Since everyone was praising him, he had even more options of guys to prey on, which he did just that! He had the pick of the litter and he used that to his advantage! It’s sickening, disgusting, absolutely unacceptable and should not be tolerated at all! Let alone someone gloating about being behind the scenes and playing a major role in saving James career, shaking off this scandal and getting away w all of this! Allowing him to just continue on doing what he had been, preying on guys - often underage or guys who were confused and struggling w their sexuality, harassing straight men, acting inappropriately in endless ways and *being the disgusting predator he is!* 😑

[@ladybugspritz]

1 minute?!?! literally perfect timing thank u jen

[@ShayeZee]

at the end of the day she was 100% RIGHT !!! thats all that matters as far as Im concerned. EDIT - she has also said multiple times it was about more than Vitamins. There is always something that breaks the Dam in a women. Both her and JS say that he had been getting progressively worse on what he was doing...to the point where they both wanted no part of it.

[@marinadelgado3101]

For me this is a tough one, yes she was right, but she retracted her statement after the fact and said she had made peace with JC, which in turn made it more difficult for actual victims of JC to come out. So she either knew everything was true when she filmed bye sister, and after retracted her statements to keep JC as a friend and look better OR she didn't know any of the inappropriate stuff or had no credible proof of it before bye sister and lied about it then. Either way she either covered for a predator or lied about a friend to sully his name and I don't know what's worse

[@neffyg35]

@@marinadelgado3101 I think she retracted same as JS because youtube probably stepped in behind the scenes and was like cut the shit, imo. Plus the waiter came out and change his story.

[@ShayeZee]

@@marinadelgado3101 I get what you are saying. but heres the thing, they are not friends. She admits she hasnt spoken to him since they had a one and done convo back then. She also stated that she isnt retracting what she said, only HOW she said it. Her initial intention was to say that he was pushing the boundaries...and he needed to stop BEFORE he got in trouble. Her only proof was seeing him be progressively more egocentric, being inappropriate multiple times with straight men OF AGE...and whatever JS shoved at her. her intention was to get him to smarten up and to give a platform for people to come fwd with their story...instead she ended up with him being tormented online, almost unaliving himself ...and no one came forward. at that point anyone would pull back and say "oh no, what have i done?". The under age stuff happened after that...perhaps in a way, because this round didnt work the way it should have...and so by "winning"...he became much much worse.

[@TheChakka888]

I love how candid this interview is :) amazing!

[@sueinraleigh3091]

This is the best drama deep dive ever! Jen over here putting together Ven Diagrams, timelines, and screen caps. Good stuff!!

[@EcchiAngel]

I actually unfollowed Tati when she made the breaking my silence video. She was the oldest of the group and the closest to James. For her to be like, "But they made me do it and now I'm scared for my life!" 🙄 Exactly like you said Jen, take responsibility.

[@seasonalsecretsASMR]

Same. The veil came off and she’s not a humble person at all.

[@mirandam5746]

A Karen tbh

[@theeluannesantos]

Mad love Jen Are you forgetting that Jefree was sending the voice message to drama channels? Tati said that she spoke to 2 who reached out to her

[@Latoya-]

I swear, after this series with Gabriel, I'm so never watching anything "dramageddon" again. 😂 I am so OVER it and rehashing!! But this is a great tea spill, Jen. You did great!

[@Blast2224]

It’s Friday. It’s Raining. Jen is blessing.

[@Zenmasterzzz]

Both interview shows that Gabriel is an instigator and does not see that it’s not about just vitamins but what led up to it. Tati saw signs and when she saw who James truely was she snapped. Gabriel is friends with him and would stand up for him without seeing both sides. He seems immature and stirs the pot in the name of “keeping it 100” he could have just stayed away from it all but seems to enjoy being the instigator.

[@Star_coffeegirl]

I love and followed Rich Lux for years. Rich , he knows so much regarding the circle of the beauty world.. plus Rich knows so much that he doesn't tell because he's too respectful of his craft. Love you Rich ❣️

[@brittanyg.8644]

Jen, you are on to something with these series!!! I've watched for a long time, but you take the cake with unbiased researched content. Keep it up, and thank you for all the effort you put in!

[@PrincessCasserole]

I think people also don’t think about all of the drama that was going on with Halo Beauty too. She was fighting for her company on multiple fronts.

[@twinkletoes6290]

That stuff wasn’t really happening yet.

[@rebeccalopez3318]

Love you Jenn & Gabriel! Been waiting for this video! 😊

[@MS-wh7ec]

This was interesting but maybe keep a wide berth here Jen, these people have a habit of dragging everyone into their mess and you’re above that. ❤

[@jdbluestar23]

I’m confused. Why aren’t we calling out the obvious. Gabe said Dustin and rich told him a video was coming. They were in jeffrees pocket. Jeffree knew because he was allegedly behind it. And gave them the inside scoop

[@twinkletoes6290]

All the drama channels knew. Tati spoke to more of them than just HFTT and Tea Spill. And the drama channels also talked amongst themselves.

[@enns5366]

O.M.G. why are there so many commercials in this video Dang!😂 This was a great video!

[@racheld7528]

I’m super grateful for all the investigative work and the videos that Jen did. But there is so much to all of this. I just need to go back sometime soon and watch them. It was hard to keep track of everything from week 1 and have it apply to week 5. But still amazing and still worth watching again! 💕

[@sasukeissocoollike]

I think it's important to understand this is Gabriel's truth. Very interesting to hear his perspective of things, understanding that the way he sees things and the way things actually were intermingle to create a narrative for us all to listen and form our opinions on.

[@dawnt7950]

It’s so interesting to see the different facets of this story!! You do such an incredible job with this stuff!!!!

[@Christine-49]

It is so surreal to watch this interview after living through it the first time! So enjoying it! I adore Gabriel. I always have. I remember watching his opinions video, his snapchat rant, everything. Its crazy to look back at it all. Jen, I would love for you to do a deep dive into Jeffree like you did with James. I feel like his reign in the makeup world is pretty much over and so maybe you would feel safe to do so. Jeffree is so cold and calculating and never does things without a purpose. What Gabriel was saying about how he felt about James, that was exactly what I thought all those years ago. James was always biting at his heels so to speak and was doing it at such a young age. I knew Jeffree resented him for it and felt like he hadn't earned his wings. Can't wait to see the next part!

[@twinkletoes6290]

He’s huge on TikTok and his makeup and skincare line is as successful as ever.

[@MollyDies]

These videos make me love Gabriel. He’s a real one. Yes he was messy and made mistakes, but he’s showing growth from every experience and was very clear about speaking “his truth”. And always led as best he could with honesty. New fan here ❤

[@jaybee4118]

I don’t read pride in Tati saying she got 50 million views. I don’t see shame necessarily, but I don’t see pride.

[@danilacy3588]

I was SO lost and confused about Dramageddon 1 & 2 and hearing all of this now is absolutely insane. I’ve been glued

[@rochellemunoz6919]

I should be working but here I am listening to all this 2016 me is so invested 😂

[@grassfolk]

I just watched part 1, perfect timing for this drop

[@amandacaron335]

And you did it at my birthday dinner…. 😂

[@madisonfreddie]

33:53 Gabriel brushes his eyebrows THAT IS MEEEE😂😂

[@marina-gb6jz]

Gabriel gives me the same ick that James Charles does. He's so pleased with himself, it's gross. He's still gloating, still enjoying the drama and his involvement in it. And the way he's telling this story stinks of misogyny Also, Jen, it would have been a lot easier to watch just the interview, without all the additions of clips from the past. Makes the watching experience jarring

[@angelalittle9482]

I love that you are doing these deep dive videos. So good!

[@BonaTaylor]

Regardless of how it actually went down... I LOVE THIS SERIES AND THIS INTERVIEW!!! I went through dramageddon 1 and 2 live as it was happening back jn the days and I completely love that you now went deep down behind these scenes to drag up the actual truth. It's the most unimportened thing in the world, yet I am absolutely invested as you keep digging and digging. At this point, it feels like the documentary AND the BTS to the documentary to a really important historical event. 😂😂😂😂 I mean this in the best way possible. I love every second of it and I hope you come up with even more details. Also love that you got not only Gabriel but also Rich Lux on the record. Your work is always fantastic, but i keep repeating myself, you outdid yourself with this whole ordeal. 🎉❤👌

[@sailuna9195]

It's clear to see for me in my opinion, that Gabriel took on the roll of a protective "older brother" in the James vs Tati, drama, as he mentioned in the first video his the oldest sibling in his family, I believe every single word he is saying that doesn't mean I agree with his decisions, he did not need to put his self in their, he did not know Tati and he also didn't know what James was up to. I don't think Gabriel had the foresight to see who James was becoming in to, he just saw him as bratty.

[@gabrielzamora]

💯

[@shayoway7414]

No criticism for Tati? He has more followers than her. She didn’t do that much for him

[@christinagoddard4744]

Excellent video Jen❤

[@racheld7528]

I think I need to go back and watch the entire 5 videos. I’m so confused about Shane’s involvement in this especially his reaction with the release of “bye sister”.

[@thisisavivistanaccount7866]

i’m not all the way through. I just…idk I know this is Gabriel’s perspective and it’s very insightful. But to this day, I’m still thinking that there is a person who’s talking about how he was hurt by JC and that audio has just been paraded around as some type of leverage??? That’s very concerning and I hope the person is okay.

[@JustMeBieth]

And notice the whole damn video how Gabriel is tying in and making everything about himself. "I was so worried I called him!" "It was me who told him to stand up for himself and not take it from anyone!" "I titled "No More Lies!" "I asked him if I could post a video about it!" "I was trying to correct his behavior" "I got 1 million views that night", "Im the accountability person why not come to me?" Like on and on and on and on. Newslfash Gabriel: this, like most everything you involve yourself in, has NOTHING to do with you and your annoying, sassy, self-indulgent self. 😒🙄

[@DAC888]

I love Gaby!!! Love his honesty! Just love how honest he is and mature about everything.

[@TheSlimjadey1]

I'm not really on anyone's side, but I do want to point out one thing. Doesn't Gabriel sounds exactly like Jeffree Star? Same exact mannerisms, the way they both speak. There were a few clips showing Gabriel speaking that flipped to Jeffree speaking and back to Gabriel and it could totally be the same person.

[@merrilew]

Fastest click of the day… Your upload!🎉

[@heathermarie3672]

The comment section has said anything I would have said, but I’m here to add this. Gabriel really loves to pop up and relive all of this, doesn’t he? Move forward, grow as a person, become better, evolve. He admits that he loves drama and is messy……like that’s a great thing?! Yeah, I’m sitting here listening to rehashed drama. But this guy is just absolutely loving the fact that he was involved in all of this stressful, horrible mess.

[@Karen_Obim]

He is just keeping it a 💯 hahahahhahahaha😂lolol

[@marygilrosedelfin9870]

Omg BEEEEN waiting for thiss! My day is complete!

[@dejuhvu1793]

Tati continues to talk about this topic and she’s “queen” for doing so. Gabriel does and he’s an instigator that won’t move on. The hypocrisy from folks on social media nowadays is so apparent. Very gullible people that will support someone & attack others for doing the same thing.