History of Television | I Don't Know About That with Jim Jefferies #74

In this episode, the team discusses the history of television with historian, media executive, and author of "The Blackface Minstrel Show in Mass Media", Tim Brooks.
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[@GLENC0C0]

Jim's shitty overblown reactions to the sponsor discounts are the only reason I don't skip them bahaha. Love it even after the 50th time

[@RR-yr4sd]

Seriously they make me laugh so hard. "Wow that's great but surely they fuck you over on the shipping .....WAIT A MINUTE.... FREE SHIPPING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????"

[@aaronachnid]

I listen to the show in the background, but I make sure as soon as the ads come on, I watch them. I love them too

[@rochellesassbug931]

Philo T Farnsworth was from Utah. My head-cannon: firmly believe Professor Farnsworth from Futurama is Philo T's direct descendant.

[@morbidone88]

I agree with this statement

[@tonyread5559]

My Biology 2 class in high school outside of Nashville, TN went to an autopsy. We were supposed to just view it, but the everyone was super into it and the examiner let us handle everything he took out. 2 bodies, male and female, homeless people, died from smoke inhalation in a building fire they were squatting in. He was also the medical examiner that did Elvis’s autopsy.

[@officialsqeek]

I'm a Melbournian and in high school in the early 2000's we dissected a cow's eye and a rat.

[@analbaby1]

Stillborn shark do do do do. Put that on a tshirt.

[@resolecca]

How does this comment not have the most likes

[@aaronachnid]

i do love a good old school ribbing of New Zealand by Jim. Will always love ya mate, from Wellington.

[@JK_Clark]

Don't worry; you'll get telly as soon as you've got electricity 😉

[@aaronachnid]

@@JK_Clark all our sheep got COVID and can't run the sheep generator any more 😞

[@JK_Clark]

@@aaronachnid Can the Kiwi birds take over for a bit? Their non-flying status surely means they have to do something to make up for their embarrassment! Maybe the penguins could give them a few tips.

[@ericyoungstrom5745]

Easily my favorite podcast, funny and yes informative sometimes. Jim has a good crew here, they work well with each other.

[@chillerno33]

When I was in High school in England we dissected pigs eyes... All I remember about it was taking loads and putting them in a guys backpack and watching he freak out when he opened his bag in PE.

[@emdiar6588]

Yeah, me too. And we connected dissected frog legs to batteries to make them kick.

[@mattgay3894]

Yep, pigs eyes in England around 1992. It fucking stank.....and black liquid came out. Nightmare fuel

[@chrisonuttah7546]

Lamb hearts and overhead fans.... Year 10 spent well hahaha

[@BlueMoonStudios]

Got to meet Jim after the Thursday New York show. Absolutely the most chill meet and greet I’ve ever done. Jim was super friendly, very welcoming, and really enjoyable. Not to mention an AWESOME show that night! Can’t wait to see Jim back in NYC! 🤘

[@hondatuner5156]

I almost cried thinking Jim said it was the last episode, but he said its last episode in the studio... whohh existential crisis averted . Love u guys

[@adis95]

Tim was an absolute delight of an expert and guest!

[@halbasus]

I live in Romania (that's Eastern Europe) and when I was in middle school in the 90's we had too disect a frog but we didn't had frogs at school and she asked if anyone could get one, my grandmother had a lot of frogs around her house so I caught one during the weekend, I kept her alive for a few days in an old aquarium until we had biology class, then the teacher inserted a needle in her spine so she was paralyzed but not dead, she cut it open and showed the beating heart and everything... it was kinda cool.

[@sativarosegold3604]

Cruel

[@jdbovee4181]

"If you're ever at a Party..." t-shirt front is the one for me.

[@colleentrang8190]

I'm from Canada and we dissected fetal pigs, giant grasshoppers, rats, etc. for high school biology 2010s. We had to label and identify organs and stuff. So basically applying what we learned. Some group thought it was funny to put a pig's head on a stick like Lord of the Flies and got marks deducted. Also Hugh Grant was great in Paddington 2.

[@bigdaddy741098]

We dissected stuff in my high school in NSW and SA in the late 80's. I remember cutting up an eyeball, either a kidney or liver and a frog. The teachers did the good stuff like hearts, while we watched. But everything else we did our own specimen or sometimes paired up. Maybe it's a public school thing, Jim..... we weren't all snobby private school nobheads learning useful sh/t, man 😂

[@MrGpse]

Dice Clay in an episode of Different Strokes was a gem!

[@LeeKao]

I kept waiting for Jim to mention "Yes Minister" and "Yes, Prime Minister" as two of the best sitcoms of all times

[@tiagofigueiredo1992]

Do a podcast on the age of exploration/maritime discoveries... Thanks for the company, cheers from Portugal

[@johnsonpgd9164]

The worst part about doing dissection in science class was the baking pan full of wax you actually did it in. Had been used dozens and dozens of time before. So nasty, never got cleaned.

[@sativarosegold3604]

Ew

[@ChrisAnderson42]

If you're going to do merch, I'd love a T-shirt that says "The only thing thinner than Jim's skin is his hair!!" That's easily the funniest thing I heard on this Podcast. hahaha Well done Jack.

[@sativarosegold3604]

Something with cu nt on it for me

[@pennybrunton4468]

In a Melbourne high school (in the mid 90’s) I dissected a rat, frog and cow heart in biology class. Then went onto a science degree where we dissected worms, cockroaches, mice and other creepy crawlies.

[@craigroaring]

Mid 2000s in Australia year10 we dissected rats on one occasion. They were still partially frozen.

[@DaveWhoa]

in year 10ish in Australia we dissected sheep hearts, which i guess is better cos there's no face looking at you

[@tmcbgrrl0074]

In Canada 🇨🇦, grade 10 biology class, we dissected 🐸 frogs. Our classroom was at the back of the school on the 3rd floor above the Smoke doors. I remember a lot of 'fly be free moments '. Mine did the dance 'hello my baby, hello my darling, aaa...' Good times, good times! A pre-Vanilla Sky event 🤣

[@theyweredeadwhenigotthere1391]

I'll be that devoted idiot that buys said shirt.❤

[@hisholiness9016]

I hate podcasts with homework. Now I have to watch all these obscure shows. ;-)

[@micahwendell]

They should do episodes on Serial Killers and Cannibalism, I feel like that would be some comedy gold with Jim Jeffries.

[@gusgus8134]

Love this show more and more each time! Cool and informative!

[@mariajoaofmd6698]

1980s in Portugal, I remember entering the science room and finding a giant, smelly amalgam of entrails on a table, we were about to study the respiratory system of a cow. the teacher - "girl, take your pencil and indicate the trachea" me - "nahhh...."

[@dexxxlr8494]

Hey guys, beautiful pod!!! First time watching y'all on KZbin, I usually listen during work on Spotify. All of y'all are super attractive! Usually I except radio faces, but y'all are a good looking good. Keep up the good content and the good faces ☺️

[@jeremykothe2847]

I'm Jim's age, Australian, and we dissected frogs in science class

[@nickharmer3049]

I'm from England & haven't heard of the Layton's . I watch all your podcasts & find them really good entertainment. 👍

[@ozsuncoast]

It's Tuesday in Oz and I'm waiting for the next episode - hey gang!

[@kanesanders6669]

I’m Australian and six years older than Jim. We dissected a rat in Science, I think it was in Year 9 (mid 80s) in a public school.

[@ronhextallslovechild]

Yeah, I'm 10 years older than Jim, I'm from Sydney and in Year 9 we also dissected rats in science.

[@jeffreythomas7499]

I'm from the UK and in Biology class, we used to dissect sheeps eyes, pigs heart, cows lungs and rats. I was in Form 4/5 which is 15/16 years old.

[@WEAPONX4S]

Good morning Morocco 🇲🇦 let’s get the day started. Hmmm 🤔. Love to see Archer animated versions of these four. Jim- make it happen!!

[@saar144]

Yet another great episode!

[@mustafahadzic4705]

I went to nursing school in Germany, had a lot of anatomy classes, never had to stick a scalpel into anything though.

[@Dasusify]

I'm Finnish and when I was in the largest junior high (I guess that would be the closest equivalent) in Finland, in 7th year of school, aged 13-14, we dissected some fish. Out of the hundreds of students that year, and in the previous few years, I was the only one who was able to successfully excise the swimbladder without puncturing it. Mfw could've been a surgeon but the next year I was dragged to one of the worst junior highs, because mom got into a new relationship and wanted to move. >:'( Great show, fiveouttafive

[@dash-x]

That’s pretty neat to read about . That would be called middle school in the US. Typically they call K-5th grade (depending on Bday 5-10Year old.) 6th-8th Middle school, and High school is 9-12thbgrade. Back in the day some places would do junior high as people were worried of young kids being with older teenagers. I also would attend half the school year in England which was mostly the same kind of setup, though you’d start university earlier. Like I started just before turning 17. However you also get about 3 months off in the summer in the states. I didn’t cut up anything on England, but in America we did tons. Even in 3rd grade, around 7 years old, we started off with a cows eye. I got my major degree in Anthropology and interned in college at the OMI assisting them. Btw- I’m totally jelly, I briefly studied Suomi and keep hinting to the husbeast we should move to Espoo😹 It’s such a gorgeous country and really laid back way of life. 🫶🏻🇫🇮❄️

[@williamgodin1110]

Forest has a farmer tan but Jim is still rocking the pasty white look

[@v8holdentiger]

Jim, we do cut shit up in science class in New South Wales in high school. I’m only 11 years younger than you. Can’t be that different. Maybe the northern beaches were above that, but we definitely did at my public high school. Year 7 too. We did a cow’s eye from memory

[@juffkasvennsson4609]

My day is saved

[@TheDillberto]

GUYS YOU HAVE AN AUSTRALIAN ... THE MERCH SHOULD BE STUBBY HOLDERS AND CIGGY LIGHTERS

[@NaysWays]

🤣

[@robertgrey1377]

Jim shit on my fun fact about Paw Paws a while ago(it’s a weird fruit native to PA), but then I learned that Australia has something called paw paw too. basically it’s a papaya. I should have used Latin names. Anyway, love the show as always. Let me in to your guy’s world!

[@Simmo07]

We had two channels growing up in Australia where I grew up in the 80's. 6 & 3 and at 12 pm the TV went off and nothing was shown till 6 am I he next morning. Mannn how things have changed

[@liamnevilleviolist1809]

43:37 "on the 'Pod World' " ahaha, another great improv. Well. An improv at least. :P Love you Jim, from Perth Aus.

[@daAnT1990]

Went to school in Germany from 1996 to 2009. Never had a dead animal in the classroom.

[@karintippett753]

I had to do dissection in high school in Canada in the 70's.

[@lucydog3376]

I was just looking at the Wikipedia page for The Laytons and it has some pretty limited information but seems pretty interesting in that sense. It was the first tv show ever to have an African American as a regular cast member, she was the family's housekeeper and was the character that usually was the one that would come up with the end solution for whatever predicament the family was in that particular episode. Apart from that some other interesting things about it is that the black housekeeper and the mother of the family (played by Amanda Rudolph and Vera Tatum respectively) are the only two people in the show whose identities are known. Nobody knows who the actors in the show were. Besides that, the episodes were broadcasted live and not taped and therefore no copies of any of the episodes were ever kept and none of the episodes were ever seen again after the initial live performance/broadcast. It was also apparently pretty low budget by accounts and was filmed with only two cameras and two sound stages, one of which an ad for Bates bedspreads and draperies would be performed live mid episode on. All proof that it actually ever existed is the script from the pilot episode (as far as I know, other scripts made exist too) which was published in entirety in the book "The TV Writer's Guide" and used as an example for sitcom writing. Apparently, the book has a bit more information on the show too which would be interesting to hear.

[@aussieness]

Aussie here👋🇦🇺 I went to public high school Sydney, NSW. We did the dissection in Science yr7 (1987) or yr8(1988) so either they stopped after that or didn't want to give Jim a scalpel😄

[@NaysWays]

I'm right at the start of the podcast wondering if Crorg the Caveman (was that right?) will make it to the merch???

[@antistraveling3522]

What about the astronaut/Navy seal Joe finckle

[@trevorwells5259]

Korag the Caveman :)

[@drmojo5439]

@@antistraveling3522 You should know by now that Joe Finkle has achieved much more than just those two amazing feats. Hell, RAY Finkle did better than Joe, the way you're making it sound! Hehe

[@NaysWays]

@@trevorwells5259 thank you!

[@micahwendell]

We dissected frogs in the 7th grade where I went to school. In the central valley of California in 1994. I don't recall ever dissecting anything in highschool.

[@simonturner1]

Quotes taken out of context: "Wow, 10 inches!" - Kelly

[@KickassUncle]

We dissected rats in Sydney in the 80s.

[@KickassUncle]

But it was nothing to do with school.

[@riverendnet]

Yes we dissected a rat at a high school in Melbourne Australia, aged around 13-14.

[@fleshconfetti]

We dissected mice, eyeballs, lamb hearts etc. in High School in Australia, Jim.

[@bigChrisWithAtinyPeice]

Remember a decade or 2 ago when news was the news and not the reporters opinion on the news how I missed those days

[@kevinburton81]

9th grade in Australia we dissected a sheeps heart

[@c.c.schaeffer8678]

I LOVE Jack!!! I dig the hack’etts too!!! Keep up the forward motion; You’ll make it!!!

[@drmojo5439]

To me, Jack's already made it. I wish I were in his shoes. Instead I'm going to be in the nosebleeds on Friday watching Jim (still the highlight of my year so far).

[@c.c.schaeffer8678]

@@drmojo5439 from his mouth he desires more but i see your perspective too. You both have unique and beautiful attributes and will reach your goals! I believe in you both!

[@drmojo5439]

@@c.c.schaeffer8678 you're very sweet and positive: thank you!

[@BradGryphonn]

Over in England back in the day, there was a TV show on at a certain time. The electricity board knew what time it was and would ramp up power because all the Brits would put on a cup of tea before the show, boiling their kettles.

[@JK_Clark]

It was Eastenders and the power surge was immediately after each episode. At the time there were only 2 per week and no omnibus on Sunday (or repeats online), and only 2 other channels which showed crap because it was impossible to compete.

[@Matthew-ve7uv]

Seinfeld did take a while to get popular, but it was far fucking bigger than Friends when it finally took off. Seinfeld was national conversation every week. The final episode was the highest watched show ever. I think even crime went down during the last episode like with The Beatles on Sullivan. Nothing like that happened with Friends.

[@unnecessaryapostrophe4047]

I'm sensing a coastal bias with you.

[@glennblanchard4193]

We did frogs in Penrith NSW Australia in the 80's

[@helen.k]

First eye i dissected was in med school. There's no dissecting of animals before that in Finland.

[@mprador09]

30yrs old got here in ‘97. (MX-US) never heard of the “latens”

[@iancochrane5968]

In New Zealand we dissected mutton birds.

[@resolecca]

I went to school in nz and I never dissected anything

[@robertgrey1377]

Jim, come to Pittsburgh!

[@coooooolioooooo]

Just an FYI: Almost all asian, middle eastern schools do the dissection of animals sheep, fish, cows heart and such from 5th to 8th grade. I’m sure many other countries do as well.

[@pikasnipe1]

I saw The Farnsworth Invention on Broadway written by Aaron Sorkin, with Hank Azaria and Jimmi Simpson. All about the Invention of TV a fantastic play that should be taped. The reading they did some months back during lockdown does not serve any kind of justice.

[@ricktod668]

I went to high school in Newcastle NSW would have been the same year as Jim and we cut frogs, rats, eye balls and hearts in science

[@KeiranR]

We disected cain toades in Bundy high school qld in the early 2000s like year 10.. my toads heart started beating

[@hansvandijk1987]

Formalin is formaldehyde dissolved in water.

[@jenesisjones6706]

I went back to high school in Townsville, Qld, Australia, in around 1983, when I was in my twenties...and in biology, we dissected a frog

[@helirobk9]

We dissected frogs and mice in the 1990s in Bathurst Australia.

[@liamnevilleviolist1809]

13:12 "Godivas" ahah

[@lesmansom7817]

Excellent 🤘👍

[@jojoe3193]

Good to see Less Nessman is still working.

[@rodneyp9590]

When I was in elementary school we had to right a story on what we would be doing as an adult. Mine was all about partying and having infinite choices on my hand TV. Her comments on it were "unrealistic." I still have it if she hadn't been dead the last 30 years I'd drunk call her so fast.

[@gart9680]

In Scotland we dissect animals in the highschool. Frogs in biology.

[@1571JohannesKepler]

My favorite show, The Sopranos, change tv for the better. It brought a level of cinematographic quality that you could only find in movies back then. It openned the door for shows like Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones. Before that, you could miss an episode and still be able to follow the story. It's not like all of a sudden you're like "Oh shit, there are five friends now, wtf happened last week ?!" P.S : If you're a hardcore fan of The Sopranos like me, go see "The Many Saints of Newark". For those living under a rock, it's a prequel to the show.

[@206beastman]

The wire>sopranos

[@JK_Clark]

@@206beastman Sheeeeeeiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

[@lucydog3376]

Your suggestion at the end did not age well.

[@wgsmcw2012]

Seeing Kelly's Tatts finally! Cool Tattoos Kelly!

[@harmer7924]

Great episode UK In high school we disected a pigs heart but that was it

[@craigfenner9563]

We want April 18th shirts!!!

[@taityrant565]

As soon as Arnie jumped on kellybears lap I forgot about the podcast. Good boy

[@clackersclarke4450]

Adelaide South Australia, science class: open up living rats, stretch and pin the skin to a board and watch the organs do their thing. Also dead fish open them up and separate the organs. Totally gross. I wagged school those days as I didn`t want to do it.

[@sativarosegold3604]

Horrid

[@AntonBrandillustrations]

I'm from South Africa. Never cut up animals

[@ozsuncoast]

Hi Gang - this is my favorite channel - love the A Team - Beautiful Kelly, Young Jack, Grumpy Forrest and what's his name.

[@JK_Clark]

Face or BA Baracus.

[@paulclissold1525]

Huge miss jim reg grundy. He was a legend.

[@micahwendell]

Surprised they didn't mention Perfect Strangers or Night Court in the 80s.

[@matttrafton2725]

MASH, Barney Miller, I Love Lucy, Star Trek. The best. I watched reruns of them growing up.

[@jackieblue512]

Who opened for you in ft lauderdale last night? Didn’t get their names and the Aussie had us cracking up

[@FourOneThreeOh]

Mutton is a 366 day old sheep. I went to Katoomba (100km west of Sydney) high school in the 90s, I remember the gave us a chicken wing to dissect to try get us use to it, then they tried a frog. I wasn't down for it.

[@matttrafton2725]

Hogan Heroes was a great rerun also.

[@dafyddjones8199]

I did the frog in middle school what do we need more art history majors one of these kids is gonna have to be a farmer and make us some steak's yeeeaaaaa boy

[@Matthew-ve7uv]

Movie stars might guest star on TV shows in the 90s, but actually starring in TV shows was probably Buscemi in Sopranos. That was fucking weird at the time, and completely normal now.

[@Janskobla]

Damn Girl! Love them tattoos 😍

[@sativarosegold3604]

No bumper stickers on Ferraris though

[@Cyco1984]

Lately, i have been asking for 3 topics: The Simpsons, porn, and videogames. Seeing how this week is tv, i hope jim and crew dont lead me on and give me blue balls. Also, i never dissect anything. Give them what they want. Boomshakalaka!!!!

[@briancattani5109]

This is the golden age right now, especially tv. Such great acting and writing, and choices world wide. I enjoy watching shows from so many different countries.

[@MattBlack6]

We cut up cows eyes and cane toads in Australia in the 1980/90s

[@MattBlack6]

The cane toads were still alive but they had been knocked out using alcohol fumes.

[@dash-x]

I love situational comedies. What I’ve noticed is people I’ve talked to is on the east coast everyone loves Seinfeld and west coast it’s friends, and nary the two meet. However, in England friends is still ridiculously popular. People will still watch it daily via appointment viewing. I do enjoy English humor more like the awkward comedy much like IT crowd. It doesn’t seem to translate well in the states however. They also prefer episodes to wrap up cleanly at the end. So American remakes like the office started doing better there whe. They softened Michael as a loveable doof and not as aggressive and selfish. Also, I do agree with Jim that we’re in quite a lull in the states for situational comedians or multicams/live studio audiences. However, I’ve been really enjoying the more experimental like “Kevin can go F himself,” and sort of mocking the traditional laugh track kind of show. I think because of how heavy things have been now we’re trending towards either nostalgia or vulnerable storylines.

[@JK_Clark]

What is 'appointment viewing'?

[@dash-x]

@@JK_Clark It’s regular cable television and everyone tuning in at specific times when the shows come on. So we’re all watching a show on the same night at the same time.

[@JK_Clark]

@@dash-x Friends is on every day in the UK? I've not seen that, which channel is it on?

[@cuts205]

I'm an Aussie and we dissected rats in grade 8. Not sure what the go was at your school

[@matttrafton2725]

The dog is a welcome distraction to having to look at your bloated sidekicks JJ. More dog.