How to Rally in Forza Horizon 5 | Beginner's Building/Tuning Guide for Rally/Offroad

[@marcant6223]

Once again nailing it in every way possible with these guides, Hoki. Can't wait for the drag racing guide.

[@spupp1274]

S 7y sj,jnx9d I was I moving km oblivious

[@marcant6223]

@@spupp1274 uhhh. What?

[@spupp1274]

Son was on my phone lol sorry

[@marcant6223]

@@spupp1274 ah lol.

[@soxfox1176]

Gonna be like “ok first to start off remove your steering bind by going in to settings and controls.”

[@skyemaster8802]

I really love the fact that RWD is viable now, it enables so many cars to be fun in rally races. I feel though that FWD is often overlooked. Many of the shortcomings of the drivetrain, mainly understeer are not really problems when the rear wheels have less grip like they do on a gravel surface. B class FWD rally cars are extremely good fun and very competitive. Anyway love the guide, will certainly be putting it to good use.

[@Blank55600]

Not to mention most rwd cars in general seem to be a bit enjoyable to use now. I'm not constantly burning out anymore even with a fast tune. But some still burnout like a pile of tire fires.

[@codemy666]

B class FWD in general is probably the best fun i've had in this game

[@nitroxwolf2098]

RWD cars for offroad or rally are not grippy and fast they always love to slip like there on ice and it sucks thats the case.

[@Cheezmonka]

Was going to post something similar so I'm glad to see someone else mention it on here

[@theunhingedgamer3762]

@@nitroxwolf2098 the only reason they aren't grippy is because of people like you who don't know proper throttle control and power tuning so given you said that I'm gonna say that's a you problem because I personally have had 0 issues with some of my RWD rally builds also since you want to say "RWD cars aren't grippy" I can say the same about FWD builds given most of my B Class rally builds with FWD spin the wheels much more but that's solely because I haven't retuned those cars yet nor have I spent much time doing FWD rally builds but like RWD rally builds that doesn't mean they aren't good in short it's all down to the driver not the car so again since you said RWD cars suck for rally that shows you just aren't that good at handling it properly not insulting just saying the truth

[@skylarsorell9212]

Fun fact: Most of the 'official" rally cars such as Ken Block's, the Honda Civic Coupe, the #34 Beetle, etc. have grippier stock tires than the rally tires upgrade. They also have rally suspension by default, but their ride height is pretty much bottomed out. Really interesting

[@kiv2193]

Wait, is this why i couldn't find the rally suspension and tyres on the Audi Quattro?

[@KillerLettuce]

@@kiv2193 From what I can tell if you can't find an upgrade for a certain car its because the stock parts are that missing part or better. For example you can't get street or sport tires on the super cars because the super cars already have better tires.

[@jrhshxtuqowknen]

same with puma FE

[@Eat-MyGoal]

Well it's a fact, so you're half right...

[@freeRKelly885]

@@Eat-MyGoal I thought it was pretty fun

[@themicrowavenetwork]

Evil HokiHoshi be like: Everyone use the Hot Wheels Boneshaker

[@Dayashii]

Evil HomiHoshi be like: Min max and do suspension exploit

[@Anotherandoman93]

The boneshaker is good as hell but I never use it. I enjoy driving classic cars mostly. I find the exotic cars boring.

[@TokyoDrift456]

​@@Anotherandoman93I love hot wheels cars, not because they're meta, I just like hot wheels

[@Ylerian]

​@@TokyoDrift456based

[@vonblunder]

As an apprentice driver and tuner I find this to be a very useful clear and easy to follow instructional video. Many thanks!

[@bingo_bongo1121]

That off-road tire tip was so helpful, my car was a bit too heavy so I swapped the tires and removed some weight. Now it’s a great car

[@pemtax557]

I have benefited tremendously from your guides and tutorials ... but ... this one takes the cake!! You addressed just about every issue I had struggled with since I began to rally on FH5 (my personal favorite format). Thank you "again" for all you do to aid all of us new drivers in the realm of digital motor racing. I have learned more in last couple of months than one would think possible. Thanks so much for your time and efforts to share you vast knowledge. Cheers my friend, Dave

[@romak3814]

Just wanted to stop by and say a couple things. This guide, along with the upgrade guide and the tuning guide has made me feel like a rally monster. Currently trying to top 1% all the rally courses and these guides have helped me get 8 of them already. Thank you so much for the help. Also, my favorite rally car may be a sleeper, but the 1985 Toyota Sprinter Tureno is a monster. It’s sooo freakin good. If anyone is looking for a rally car that’s not “meta” and is really fun to drive, give it a shot. Promise you won’t regret the choice! Build it out for the A class and watch it shred the courses with ease.

[@judahkeryluik6548]

Hoki is just hitting all the bases when it comes to helping us all on tuning

[@jaroca784]

Awesome stuff. Just posted a top 2% gauntlet time with my A class TT build, but with this info I'm sure I can get into the 1%. Back to the garage.

[@reallygreeny]

Can you give us the share code? I'd love to try it out!

[@pat_stone]

Thank you so much for this guide (and your other ones). I'm new to Horizon and so far I've downloaded all my tunes from the community. I had a lot of fun with them but always wanted to try it out myself. It is daunting though. I was playing on "Above Average" difficulty and on Medium control settings. Especially on dirt I sucked bad. With your guide I did my own tune of the Volvo 242 Turbo Evolution (one of my favourites) and it's amazing! It's so much better if you can fine tune everything and actually know what's behind the tune. Difficulty is up to "Highly Skilled" and driving assists are up to "Hard" as well. Thanks again!

[@rryumi]

Havent watched it yet, but I immensely appreciate the amount of detail you put into these videos. Thank you very much

[@stereotypicaltrashcan1492]

It's always a good sign when you feel confident commenting about how much you appreciate the detail put into a video purely based on your experiences with previous videos

[@Majima_Nowhere]

I always like having really long 1st and 2nd gears, then a medium 3rd gear, and very short top gears. This makes it easier to control wheelspin off the line, has good acceleration out of tight corners due to fewer shifts, and always keeps the engine right in the powerband on the straights. This goes for road cars as well as rally. Plus, it just sounds cool having an 8 speed trans, where the top 5 gears are only like 1-2k rpm difference lol.

[@mybasshertz1668]

You dont have people blowing by you on the striaghts in 6th gear while u bang 5-8 on the straight?

[@Majima_Nowhere]

@@mybasshertz1668 In cars with a fast shift speed? Not really, no. Older cars with slower shifts rarely get more than a 6-speed in my tunes anyway.

[@nahidakther2057]

Hey Hoki, I just started playing Forza Horizon 5 and coming across your channel has been really helpful as I didn’t really understand the tuning system, but after watching your videos, I was able to achieve perfect tunes in most of my builds, took me a while but it was definitely worth it.Thank you so much for helping me understand this difficult topic

[@CalvinCalintonSong]

A Hoki a day, keeps the player tunes away. Bad jokes aside, you really made FH5 much more enjoyable for me than it would have been otherwise. Experimenting with builds are now the reason I play anymore. Keep showing us the goodness, Hoki!

[@hogibunz834]

I was literally just looking to find a good guide. Perfect timing. You are such an amazing producer

[@moorefunandgames7411]

Been playing forza for years and just recently discovered your channel this is amazing! Feel like I’m listening to chief engineer of a racing team on tuning my cars, love it and Rivals times are way better too. Appreciate your content and definitely subbing

[@Mark-bj4um]

Thank you Hoki - your guides for both Forza Motorsport and Horizon 5 are exactly what is needed for race nuts like me that want to learn set-ups.

[@TheCaptDude]

I just want to thank you. I am not a car guy and have a hard time understanding tuning. You literally made this understandable for me. You earned my subscription. Thanks!

[@ichor732]

This is absolutely perfect. I'm working on the rally challenge for the Pulsar for the season and I'm being spoonfed the winning solution

[@destrudot]

lets goo! i can tune my rally cars to perfection now, thanks hokihoshi!

[@Scorpion5120]

Thank you so much man! Without your guides I'd get lost in all those options. Let's be honest, in-game descriptions of them are pretty confusing. You put them in a very simple way. You've earned yourself another sub.

[@ZykopathOfficial]

Excellent video as always!

[@slickrickwithabigflick3770]

Easily the most comprehensive and understandable guides for Forza. Loving it

[@Eat-MyGoal]

Good to see someone who knows about tuning as opposed to those 100% accel, 0% decel idiots.

[@initial-t7443]

again an amazing guide , thanks , and great choice regarding the car :)

[@steeveejoe]

Incredibly useful! I was wondering how to tune my rally builds today and this was a perfect and eloquent tutorial. Keep up the great vids!

[@zetaalpha7200]

Thanks for the vid, I'm learning steadily with your videos. I've got a couple of rally cars that just can't handle it, now I know why. Rally is a lot of fun on FH5, I had some fun on FH4 as well. Thanks again.

[@roadchewerpe5759]

Thank you for this! Was looking for it last week or so, glad to have it!

[@SplaysRacing]

The best guides! I’m currently building my first car with Hoki’s guides (I’m making a 240sx)

[@dillonbuckley4618]

Aha the video I have been waiting for!

[@DaBiggestGobbo]

Just what I was waiting for

[@-Siftn]

Love your guides HokiHoshi, keep up the great work! ❤️

[@arandomboye8799]

Thank you so much for making this video. My finger hurts but now due to going through the whole video with lots of pausing I have nearly 4 full pages of notes on rally building in FH5

[@RikkertPaulB]

Great! I was waiting for this guide to improve my rally cars. Thanks!

[@miguelchampagnie1590]

It's a bit scary how accurate and how much these tutorials help

[@COOLESTDELLCAIN]

Finally! Thanks for making this video.

[@giodudeg994]

Awesome as always! Really helps alot with this new customizations. Now...Cross Country Guide next? :D

[@hertzbergjoakim]

Hi Hoki, I have a proposition; in FH4, you made a driving school video. I think many people, including me, would truly appreciate a full driving school series in FH5 as there aren't really that many good ways to learn the theory behind racing in FH5. Sidenote: Your content is truly amazing and very well appreciated, there is a reason you have such a big following. You deserve it.

[@snowshoe3274]

This helped me so much. I'm pretty good at road racing, no trouble with the Pro AI in FH5, but in rally I used to get annihilated. This video helped me build a rally 996 GT3 and oh lord, I can send that thing so hard. Thank you, Hoki. Btw, look into 911's for rally, they're absolute beasts with rear engine rwd.

[@oatmeat432]

first time im this early wow love what you're doing man

[@SL4PSH0CK]

sub and liked, i just started FH5 again after years from FH4, and holy Rally FH5 is more indepth than 4. thanks for documenting and taking your time for shedding light since Rally is a major event in FH5. thank you and appreciate ya!

[@iceslayer777]

Killed it with this video, I can't wait to tune a rally car that I really like. The last one was very helpful, which is why I'm here. It seems like rally builds are easier than road racing.

[@ghost-ce1zo]

Just wanted to say thanks for making these guides. I watched the main one a few days ago and my tuning has never been better. I've got a 200-line text document of notes from the first one and now a 100-line supplement from this rally-specific one, and yet I don't feel intimidated by either because it's all very straightforward, troubleshooting included. For those curious about those document line numbers, the spacing is very generous and included in the count, actual numbers may be something like 125-150 and 65, respectively

[@marcusbishop8936]

Thank you for doing this! Very much appreciated 👍🏻👍🏻

[@PandasEatBamboo]

Building/tuning and testing a car has become my favorite thing to do on this game and I've been practicing rally builds for the last week or so, this was a greatly time upload. Right on the mark Hoki!

[@jessewright7259]

Was really struggling with the dirt/offroad tunes in FH5 until this vid. Literally my first build after this I had a top 1% rivals time in S1 class on dirt...

[@HokiHoshi]

Heck yeah!

[@acnix7]

Best tuning guide on YT. To make it better, maybe a template for beginner to use. 9 pages(tab of each setting) of base to start with. Looking forward on guide to tune RWD, OR dry vs wet (on same race track, same component but only change tuning before race)

[@Kolefield]

BTW, ride height can help a lot with any water portions, a higher ride height slows you down much less .

[@metallicafan416]

True and not all water holes are the same depth all the way across. Sometimes there's a shallower section

[@xhamel88qcx23]

Just went to top 20k to 325 in rankings, due to this guide. Many thanks! Very easy to understand and so much helpfull

[@TheDivisionAgent]

Thank you that front diff tip is all I needed all my rally cars feel like rally cars now :D

[@meuchooo]

Thank god finally! Been working on my BMW from hell on a S1 900 rallye build, but it still has some flaws. Now I hopefully can troubleshoot it better! Thank you very much ❤️

[@mybasshertz1668]

What bmw? The turbo?

[@meuchooo]

@@mybasshertz1668 no, the '06 M3

[@chrispy816]

Much needed! Thank you very much! Car drives like a dream!

[@beetrickson602]

I’ve noticed that Americans have “rally” and “off-road race” compounds as well as “rally suspension” whereas the UK have “off-road” and “off-road race” compounds and “off-road suspension”

[@AzureOrbofDestiny]

Hoshi sensei! Thanks for these builds! I have been watching your fh5 builds and truly making progress tuning and racing so thanks dear sensei. I personally find 6' front caster angle perfect since I am using keyboard. ARB settings for me are much higher but I will try your recommendation and see how things go

[@DJMarcO138]

Really appreciate these guides - it's making the game more fun to run my own builds.

[@johnny_boi77]

I was waiting for it haha, best yt channel bro 😂

[@naapuri69]

Thanks! Very good tutorial!

[@algomes2060]

The best tutorial on your tune builds thanks man much love

[@2starkiller]

Excellent guide as always! I was able to put together a great rally build for one car before this guide, but had trouble replicating the success on other cars. With the help of this guide I was able to make adjustments to two other cars already, and they feel as good as the first one! The guides you've made for Horizon 4 and 5 have helped me so much, thank you!

[@MichaelWinesburg]

Thank you for the way you help all of us You're a blessing

[@LilDiabloRob]

Perfect. Even thought I used FWD and RWD Rally cars between D-B class. A Class and Up must be AWD for added power and traction issues. I do prefer FWD over RWD in a rally build due to control (I don’t like and will never get into drifting) but with your tips, I can get my tuning down perfectly. With a FWD rally you SHOULD have your rear sway bar set up like a on road car. Stiffer in the rear.

[@totentanz333]

The best part of rally tuned FWD cars is that they still perform relatively well on road courses, pretty solid all around cars

[@SnowEspeon]

I use a CRX for rally, wheelspin is a heck of an issue all the way up to third but it somehow feels super good offroad anyway!

[@FangNakoma]

I was just googling for this stuff!

[@bmnnbmnn]

Great guide! And thank you for adding the different troubleshooting clips at the end. Would it be possible for you to create a seperate video for that specifically? Troubleshooting and fixing different problems, with a before and after video? I keep having a hard time figuring out what to adjust, if I should adjust something or if the car just handles that way. Thank you!

[@denm6893]

Earned another subscriber, love your videos man.

[@bradwilson7198]

Thank you for this video. And your others for that matter. I'm just getting into tuning, want to make it my own instead of someone else's that I download and install. I'll hopefully see you in rivals once I get better as a driver. A lot better. The troubleshooting section was very useful as a complete newbie and I really did like your advice on what to prioritize on the upgrades. Thanks again, time to go make some hilarious mistakes experimenting.

[@TheCptPepper]

I can't wait to try some of your tunes! Great video!

[@wile123456]

I wish there was an in game tuning tutorial. Not just pop-up messages and descriptions, but actually allowing the players to test out tunes and trouble shoot. Even better, have what we used to call a wizard in old computer software guide you. You tell the game "my car doesn't turn quick enough in corners" it allows you to test on a track and it till run telemetry and analyse your analoge stick movement and such. Based on that it gives recommendations "your car understeer a lot at high speeds, consider doing this and this" It would be a lot of work to make and there are many variables to take into account, but I think it would be possible. This way the high skill entry to tuning would be lowered.

[@mybasshertz1668]

I don’t think the tuning is high skilled at all. Just go to rivals, hit a lap and hit restart adjust the tune, try another lap or two til You get it right. Its maybe 15-20 laps per car for me? After a base tune based off weight and feel of the car after a quick drive around stock.

[@kspectre21]

Rejoice! Hoki has blessed us with more info to defeat the dastardly Off-road AI.

[@Daviscow]

Thank you for this 👍

[@mrdoitall14]

I am new forizon racer and I was really frustrates on the handling of the car until I saw this video. Thanks.

[@g.d.164]

Aaah thanks for listening man ❤❤

[@Dayashii]

Everyone else: chooses sensible rally car Me: Crown Vic

[@BioFake1]

I used the porsche 911 from barn finds to make my first rally car so... x)

[@KenWiggerAnotherAncientGamer]

Thanks for sharing these hints & tips!

[@rise4097]

Thanks! I love driving C and B class rally.

[@Perfumery_by_Sabin]

Thank you, I was trying so hard to get it not to bottom out in cross country builds that when I finally got them too they sucked at handling lmfaooooo “I must not be doing it right. Sensai HokiHoshi would know how to solve this problem in a heartbeat!”

[@matthewgonzalez9537]

Great vid

[@taikeru5482]

Thx for awesome tips. My car tune is now very better than before. 👍👍

[@jackmcdonough9299]

You are seriously the greatest, thank you so much.

[@DD5V1]

Awesome guide! Helped me win a seasonal event! Subbed!

[@CivilDefenseMinistry]

I've been waiting for this since the racing tuning guide!

[@jseppine]

I remember when I started Horizon 5, trying to get some of the dirt racing accolades was super difficult and the Welcome Pack Lancer-Evo-GX-whatsit was the only car with which I would win dirt races at highly skilled difficulty. Something definitely happened there compared to FH4 and I mostly blamed AI having impossibly handling cars. It was the very first weeks of FH5 being out, otherwise I would have pulled up this guide in an instant. 9 months later, maybe with this guide I can make dirt racing fun again in FH5, although as you said in the tuning guide, tuning might not make that much difference in single player.

[@macca9320]

This worked lovely

[@ChaseConrad]

What helps me a lot with almost all the races is that I sometimes drive through the yellow checkpoint, your car just have to touch it to count as legally not missing the checkpoint. So instead of sometimes having to make a small turn left or right just drive straight through the yellow checkpoint thing either the left or right one. This helps when going past an AI car as they give the space to do so because they don't touch the yellow checkpoints, so if you pass an AI and drive through the checkpoint it will not show missed checkpoint message.

[@TommatPL]

Do you mind sharing the RX-7 rally tune, please? Pretty please?

[@EljansLife]

Exactly what I looking for. Thanks.

[@RWQFSFASXC-oh8lb]

Tysm bro this helped me a lot ❤

[@basebutter]

as much as i loved your original tuning video, i was saying to myself the whole time 'BuT wHaT aBoUt RaLlY' so thank you

[@Donkeymaster9000]

BMW 1995 M5 is honestly really fun, 1,120 hp AWD (S1 900) and it floats. Tuned it about 30 times with 2 engine swaps. Best advice is to get extremely aggressive and tune it so it’s responsive on high speed corners and excessive acceleration. Now it snaps straight under massive acceleration and doesn’t lose control when driving sideways 😂

[@meledict57]

I honestly find it useful to keep differentials not so high to take some non-drift turns sometimes and for better handling on paved roads

[@Kolefield]

I've been using the lotus elise for rally in class A and love it.

[@Qvartz_Lite]

FWD in rally build is really really good on D-B class tho, and there are some good builds for A too

[@AndreaDelRiva]

Getting spoiled with these amazing guides. Glad you finally covered the Rally Tuning! Rally races are my favourite! Thanks, Hoki! Just a bit sad to say that, Rally Races without Lancia's Cars in the game, and some others missing is... a big turn off for me. Any news if they gonna be added any time soon? And forgive me, but I have to say it, the fact that they removed races choice and class from the horizon open, is another big off as well. I hope you Hoki will talk some sense to the dev team about this.

[@marcant6223]

Yup. I aint even touching rally races til I get some of my fave groub b cars in the game.

[@SarcasticTentacle]

Regarding gearboxes it's also worth spending the extra PI on a race transmission if you have engine swapped or added forced induction since your car's power and torque curves will be different from stock.

[@nightryder1227]

Great video! Thanks

[@websterleach4891]

Forza should hire you if they were smart your like a human instruction manual thanks hoki 👍👍

[@McGrubbers4]

Great video! Would love to see some examples on how to tune a street car too!

[@aspyr5681]

From my experience, I build almost every car into a rally beast, that means Rally tires, maximum launch and acceleration in accordance with good offroad capability and speed that'll usually suffice on rally tracks, which is sub 300km/h, I went a bit crazy and put Nissan GTR Black Edition into S2 category for rally, that thing EATS Hoonies for dinner and there's only one reason for it, speed. It flies way above 300km/h and handles amazing on all 4 wheels. I did the same thing to the most expensive barn find, yes, the Ferrari 250 GTO, it's not too fast, but man does that thing HANDLE turns. A bit too well even, it's Cosworth's biggest enemy, I even managed to win 1st place with it against unbeatables and I ace every Horizon Tour with it, it's truly a wondrous machine

[@TheOneWayDown]

Good to know I wasn't completely ruining my cars, but it looks like it's back to the drawing board for my itasha wrc rally evo lol

[@choader6769]

12:59 ive been wanting to here that for years