How to Tune in Forza Horizon 5 | Basics of Tuning Guide

[@yukilover_Wonder]

I searched a beginner’s guide and didn’t expect a guide about tuning for 32 minutes

[@syntheticknowledge2967]

Who the hell thumbs down this? This guy is spreading knowledge to make our cars ride better in game.. guess some ppl don’t like that knowledge nugget lmao

[@edwinmedina4338]

That one person that finally lost to peeps actually tuning properly lol

[@syntheticknowledge2967]

@@edwinmedina4338 bro, have you tried taking a 1960’s C class Camero, upgrade it to S1 and drive it on anything that isn’t a straight line? Handles like a fucking boat, like a cruise ship.. I don’t do this shit in real life but gear ratios are easy, basically math homework.. tuning handling was always a pain in the ass cuz so many different options could make or break a build with the slightest adjustment and the in game info doesn’t do a good job explaining what each option actually does.. That baby takes corners like a supercar now tho.. Wanna see?

[@syntheticknowledge2967]

@@edwinmedina4338 oh shit.. sorry about the rant my guy.. didn’t realize it was this comment you replied to.. I have multiple.. still.. wanna race? Lmao

[@Firechicken217]

this is a full blown automotive teaching video, most if not all of the tuning adjustments i made to my project car were similar to the ones in this video. differentials, sways bars, spring rates, its crazy how a game where you drive a pinata float off a cliff you can also learn a real skill. subscribed, great video, get this man to 100k

[@TomAnderson.]

This is why and how I’ve been working on a project car. I realized how close to reality a lot of things are in the game that I’ve learned how to work on my car myself.

[@nycyabber7103]

Lol we've gone full circle! When I was younger playing FM4 we'd have to watch videos on how to tune actual cars to learn how to tune in the game

[@thomashubbard2286]

100% it's a great game and amazing sim. And matey explains it really well

[@GalaxybutYT]

You're a real one. Subbed. 🤘

[@SHTFSTAXXX]

@@thomashubbard2286 my favourite game in a long time (fh5) 👌

[@enzodorca9028]

If anyone wants to save all this info, I kind of got all the first parts together. Enjoy! Differential Rear accel- higher diff causes more oversteer 50-90% (the higher hp, higher diff) Front accel- higher diff causes more understeer 10-50% on track (low track high rally) Front and rear decel- higher diff causes understeer, but a bit can help rotation Center- higher setting causes oversteer 50-80% (high track low rally) Brake Reversed, so Front= more rear force (more stable, understeer) Rear= more front force (less stable, oversteer) Braking force (leave it as is) Aero Overall high= less speed, more grip, hotter tired High front =oversteer High rear = oversteer, but understeer if too high compared to front Damping Controls spring compression/extension Bump stiffness = 50-75% rebound High bump- slower compression (Usually towards the low end of the scale in game) High front setting- more rear grip High rear setting- more front grip Low front setting- more front grip Low rear setting- more rear grip (Base leave rebound and soften a bit bump) Springs Low front- oversteer Low rear- understeer Overall higher- more response, less grip (Base usually a bit too stiff for 4x4 and fwd) Height- as low as possible without hitting the ground Antiroll bars Affects body roll (entry + midcorner balance) Low front- oversteer Low rear- understeer (Base go half soft on front and half stiff on rear for 4x4 and fwd) (Leave as is for rwd) Alignment Camber = vertical angle Toe= horizontal angle Caster= suspension angle Camber Needs adjustment using telemetry- never above 0°, (Base put a little less than the game, 1.8, 1.7 front; 1.3, 1.2 rear) Toe Very small changes Fwd and 4x4 try .1 or .2 front toe out to give oversteer (if still needed also rear toe out) Rwd try .1 or .2 rear toe in to keep rear stable Toe out- oversteer, response Toe in- understeer, stability Caster Between 4-7° Higher caster- more camber Gears Bigger first and second Try reaching end of graph Tires Controls grip, shape and temp Higher = better response, but more sudden loss of grip 26-35 psi for track (1.8-2.4 bar)

[@danmar2026]

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[@volxy3505]

@@danmar2026 Ayo 😳

[@Raor1820]

Ty

[@TankStormTrooper9]

Cant copy😢

[@gigachat32]

i did fastest f1 in 7 days after start playing game without any guide and I have to say that it doesnt really matter. lol

[@TheStrifist]

Hoki FH5 Tuning Summary Differential: Rear Acceleration: 50-90%, scales with HP. Higher = more oversteer. Front Acceleration: 10-50%, low on track builds, high on rally. Higher = more understeer. Deceleration (Front & Back): 0-Accel%. Low = responsive. High = corner stability. Center: 50-80, low on rally builds, high on track. Higher = more oversteer. Brakes: Balance: Front = Rear braking force. More stable, understeer. Rear = Front braking force. Less stable, oversteer. Brake Pressure: Higher = Quicker locking/ABS engagement. Aero: (Only important for A+ Class) Higher = More grip, hotter tyres, lower top speed. Difference between front and back can influence under/oversteer. Damping (Keep Bump at 0.5 - 0.75x of rebound) Main Guideline: Increase stiffness on the end of the car that is not losing grip, or increase softness on the end that is losing grip. Therefore, high front setting = more rear grip. High rear setting = more front grip. Springs: Low front = oversteer Low rear = understeer Stiffness can be affected by weight balance. Ride Height: As low as possible. Antiroll Bars: Low front = oversteer Low rear = understeer Usually at around 50%- for front, 50%+ for rear. Don't bother much for RWD. Alignment: Camber: Negative camber is better for track racing. Drop a touch for base tunes. Toe: Toe out = Oversteer (Use on front in FWD/AWD for better grip) Toe in = Understeer (Use on rear in RWD for corner stability) Caster: 4-7 degrees. Gearing: Just match final drive for base tune. Lengthen 1-2 gears for high HP cars. Tires: 26-35 PSI for track. Higher front PSI is better for cornering. ____ Final Tune: Suspension: Should be between 20-80%, try to avoid bottoming out. Tyres: Step 1 - Take a corner. Step 2 - Ensure all outside tyres have negative camber. Step 3 - Heat should be around yellow-transparent. Lessen camber if the temp difference is too high. Low pressure if middle is too high. Ensure optimum contact and heat. Good racing, everyone. Edit: Holy crap this game is so good. Solid 50fps, Mid-Low too on a 6 year old GPU. Wow.

[@brzk_]

you sir, are a good man! get this comment to the top!!

[@whokilledjustin7253]

King

[@blazet7379]

Are you going to make a video on setting a tune for drift cars in FH5?

[@HappyH4x0r]

Not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need Thank you kind stranger

[@cmonkeyv1833]

Hoki needs to pin this

[@csoobryan712]

I knew absolutely nothing about tuning compared to my 2 best friends who always knew everything about it since the earliest forzas. I sat here for an hour, and just finished writing 5 pages in depth (little diagrams for camber, toe an all.) with an actual clear understanding, about everything this guy mentioned. I am SOOOO better off now. Thank you SO much for taking the time, and having the patients to teach everyone everything you know! Looking through comments to get even more info but great job man fr fr! Subscribed👌😎

[@elhomoflow]

I can give two additional Tipps: Hoki mostly does tuning that’s realistic. But you can do some settings much extremer than he is suggesting. Extreme anti toll bars can help make AWD swapped cars turn better. 1 in the front 65 in the back is the starting point for AWD cars and you dial it back from there if the car tends to spin. Secondly you can go even lower with tire pressure on some cars as long temperatures are fine. 1.4 bar is something a lot of cars can handle without overheating.

[@lseagle61]

@@elhomoflow any other tips like this?

[@elhomoflow]

@@lseagle61 Heavy Rims, wide rear tires (on awd), and rear Aero most of the time reduce your power index value without actually hurting your handling. It’s eather a good method to bring down your car into a lower class or spend those gained points in more power. So to boil it down: Always go with widest rear tires on AWD If you don’t mind the ugly wing rear forza aero can help reduce PI 1/65 rollbar settings on AWD can fight understeer the upper two things apply To lower your PI go for Heavy Rims, big rear rims or wide rear trackwidth.

[@elhomoflow]

And one addition, Hokis Guide is excellent. He doesn’t like to suck the soul out of cars with unrealistic settings to gain the last bit of advantage. And that’s perfectly fine

[@Drawin-Circles]

I actually did the same after reading this. Took a couple of hours but was well worth it.

[@LGreenGriffin]

This video should win a Pulitzer. It doesn't seem like a lot, but making some simple tuning adjustments based on this video took 15 seconds off my A-class Goliath time and completely changed the feel of the car I used.

[@ripleyhrgiger4669]

YEah. I used to go for "BIGGER HORSE POWER ONYLY GREEN UP ARROWS!!!" until I used someone else's tune for the same car that was "slower" but it ended up being so much faster than I ever could imagine. It felt glued to the road in turns and it accelerated like a bat out of hell. The top end wasn't as high but that didn't matter because I didn't have to brake as hard or as much in turns.

[@migueeeelet]

I'm a sucker for grip so I'm definitely going to use this rather than other peoples' premade tunes. Now the one question is what the hell is engine power vs torque.

[@subiefoxy2467]

@@migueeeelet I think the verry basic gist of it is that Engine Power mostly influences top speed, whereas Torque is what gives you acceleration and makes you move of better. A saying i once heard which sums it up was this. "Power is what determines how fast you hit the wall. Torque is how far you move it." I think Torque might be more important then Power but too much Torque can just make your wheels spin too much. (I think)

[@migueeeelet]

@@subiefoxy2467 Yeah, from what little I know, torque is the actual force the wheels are applying. If I'm not wrong, too much power and too little torque is what causes wheelspin

[@subiefoxy2467]

@@migueeeelet I think its more to do with the Power & Torque and the Compound and Width of the tire. Ofcourse proper tuning also helps.

[@bstal26]

playing with a wheel and being a bad tuner, i genuinely thought it was impossible to have fun with a steering wheel in this game. you showed me that there is hope. the game is so much more fun now!

[@steel5897]

The game still sucks with a wheel. No matter what you do it's like the car will always behave incorrectly. With a controller basically the car drives itself, but plug in a wheel and it's like every car will refuse to obey your wheel. Controllers have no place in a game with simulation physics, but what can you do, they only targeted the casual audience...

[@joesmad984]

@@steel5897 have you ever considered the possibility that your are just bad?

[@justexisting8457]

​@@steel5897if you wanna get something more serious get Motorsport.

[@beansandfranks77]

I'm not kidding when I say this changed the whole game for me I've probably watched this video like 5 times while tuning. I had no idea the T menu existed and it makes this game so much better.

[@ethanshelton3177]

Exactly

[@samblack5313]

Make sure you bind telemetry so you can tune with active figures on screen. Enjoy.

[@scusemesir9988]

I quite literally pulled out a notebook and took detailed notes of everything and left room for me to make my own notes of personal preference, this video helps me a lot in Forza and also in F1 since you can tune in there as well! F1 has some other tuning options like weight distribution which I was able to figure out on my own, I very much appreciate the video, I think you should make a Pt.2 video, make it longer and go into deep detail about everything

[@valkeitos]

RIP weight distribution in F1 2021

[@Jwalker1742]

Lowkey if I gave you my Snapchat or something, would you send me these notes? I’m like 2 years behind the FH5 hype train but I just got back into it and am hooked

[@magnus8069]

what an awesome video! Tuning is an aspect of forza hardly utilised by the general playerbase, hopefully your guide motivates more people to give it a shot themselves instead of just downloading the top rated tunes... the work you do for this community cannot be overestimated!

[@richardlittle9598]

For real I just want to tandem with him

[@gemeinerrainer7069]

Haha I never tuned any vehicle in fh4 except the tire pressure and it worked

[@cherifmihoub]

Forza devs should mention this guide.

[@consti3270]

Noo let them all download, so I can be legendary tuner & flip cars for 20 mil

[@dylan-nguyen]

I remember in high school playing FM4 and spent 40% of time in the tuning and test tracks 😅 This was back when I had a Fanatec wheel and pedals and OMG using the Kinect for head tracking was sooooo fun. I wish they had some kind of small head tracking unit. Being able to look left/right to an apex was game changing.

[@DJMarcO138]

Wow, even I got something out of this, and I am a supreme n00b when it comes to cars. I used my Audi R8 as my test build, and while I still have some tweaking to do, I'm already fairly happy with how I have it tuned now. Seeing how slight tweaks to things actually work in real time is super helpful as well. It'll take me a while to memorize how this stuff works, but having a general guide so I can do it myself and stop relying on other peoples tunes (and their terrible rim choices) is super rad. Gold star for you.

[@burak6685]

Agreed. I don't care whether it is the best tune of the world. I just can't stand a beatiful car killed by ugly rims.

[@Gilbeezyskit]

HA! Just went to look up your Horizon 4 video to get a start in Horizon 5 and it says you uploaded this 11 seconds ago. Beautiful timing! Lol

[@ando3348]

I just started getting into Forza and just completed my first tune of a 1970 Porsche 914/6. I kept it in C class and really love the way it drives. I've watched this video over and over and it helps everytime. Thanks for the great content!! I even published the tune I'm so happy with it.

[@XNY_Music]

Lost count of how many times I watched your tuning guide on Horizon 4. Thanks for updating.

[@Only1Anomaly]

Very very helpful video - found out I was tuning roll bars and AWD diffs completely back to front XD

[@davidpatterson3906]

Wow it’s crazy how this could even teach somebody like me who doesn’t know anything but basic car maintenance (spark plugs, brake pads, oil, stuff like that) not only how to make some of my first tuning builds in forza, but also a lot about cars in the real world! Thanks for all of the work! You’re a fantastic teacher.

[@brandon2222nodnarb]

This guide was freaking awesome!!! I never thought I'd be able to tune and and then I came across this today. Decided to give it a try. I watched everything in the video closely, tuning my car along with you. Worked on a Valhalla Concept tune for hours today utilizing everything here. Made a No Tune, Base Tune, and 3 After Tunes until I felt good about final tune version 3. I tested out laps on Playa Azul Circuit Pro Loop near The Goliath. No tune and Base tune had times of 54.34 and 54.29 respectively. Final Tune v3 lap was 52.88!!! I was able to shave off 1.4 seconds!!!! Thank you so much for this I am so much more into the game now :)

[@r6liam657]

iv been working on the Valhalla concept for street racing watching this video I spent hours on it as well I actually started it 4 days ago but didn't complete it because I started doing the festival events to unlock the radical which I am currently working on but I'm going back to the Valhalla I really like that car

[@brandon2222nodnarb]

@@r6liam657 I'd like to test out your tune when you feel it is pretty good. I'm going to keep tweaking mine and I'd be down to send it to u if u wanna try it. I still have tons to learn about tuning and I hope to work my tune into a legit respectable tune someday

[@TruckerBaz10]

@@brandon2222nodnarb the only problem is it takes hours just to shave that 1.4 seconds off

[@CraftageNate]

@@TruckerBaz10 but if you live racing, that hour feels like a year when you see a 1.4 second difference. In a sport all about milliseconds, a full second is a BIG deal.

[@TruckerBaz10]

@@CraftageNate maybe in the real world not a computer game where seconds can be made up from player faults, decisions etc

[@Alli_3404]

I don't even own this game, but after this man held a whole beautiful speech in the end of this video. I'm actually considering buying it! Great video XD

[@milessmiles99]

Free on gamepass

[@Pitman856]

@@milessmiles99 It isn’t free

[@kingdoggo7214]

@@Pitman856 game pass costs 1 dollar for 3 months right now bro

[@jayz4dayz763]

Its downloadedable on game pass if you are a subscriber. If you aren't then its one U.S. Dollar $ for 3 months. If you like the game then you can buy it at a discounted rate as a game pass subscriber.

[@lemonhaze715]

@@kingdoggo7214 yeah and we get to play some nice games in these 3 months, inluding new gta san andr. Remake

[@clevelandfan91]

Its amazing because this tuning is exactly what you do for actual cars. Forza did great with this game. Also, what a great video. So we'll made, thanks.

[@MoistyRain]

Haven't watched the entire video yet, but thank you for putting this guide out here. You're the main reason why I enjoyed tuning in FH4 so much. Keep it up!

[@kingofroses302]

Nice Orbiter pfp

[@samblack5313]

You’ve gotta get 5, man. I wasn’t going to move from 4, but 5 was on game pass… and now I’ll never play 4 again 😃

[@nikolowolokin]

@@samblack5313 still feel the same way?

[@samblack5313]

@@nikolowolokin I haven't re-visited 4, although I must say, I like the setting better, but that is partly to do with driving on the left. 5 has also turned the 'woke' up to 11, but I play for free roam driving, so the storyline is gone for me after the first forced 40 mins or so. One of my mates couldn't get past the overt 'wokeness', wouldn't play it, so worth a mention. I play with a wheel/pedals, the wheel support is better with 5, as well as the vehicle physics not being so insanely tail happy. Had to do a LOT of tuning in 4 to make RWD cars even stay on the road, and a lot of wheel settings tuning to make it feel somewhat realistic. I'd play 4 over 5 if 4 had the updated physics, etc, but 5 has better gameplay. I also prefer the weather in 5, come winter in 4 I just wouldn't log in for that week. Hope that helps.

[@theBuckweed]

I just want to say, I never got into tuning in any Horizon game, and I've been playing them since tuning became a thing. I never really understood it to a degree where a tune I made would make my cars faster, and usually just downloaded one. This video helped a ton! Keep up the good work, this may soon be my favorite channel!

[@ajubdyboi8000]

The is the best video I could ever ask for as a new “tuner” in forza, super easy to understand and consume. Thank you very much man!

[@omarcaneomedia]

As someone who has been playing racing games since the original GranTurismo, this is still incredibly useful in deepening my understanding of tuning. Fantastic video! With all the car rotation this game promotes I find myself just downloading tunes for the most part but I want to start refining some of the cars I use most and maybe compete on rivals. This video is going to help me do that. Thank you!

[@2Syndras1Cup]

I have almost 100 tunes now, from RWD to AWD and ALL OF THEM got their final touch thanks to your info on damping, I never realized that they changed them that much. Thank you.

[@ukr4ever]

This is the only guide anyone should watch. Rewatching it 101st time... Improvement is amazing!

[@alexge6838]

You know this game is complex when there's 30 minute long video, explaining all the settings you can tweak 😅 Thank you for the all the details!

[@steelwix]

Just saw a tons of videos about tuning, but you have the best and clear explanation about everything, this guide made me deeply understand how to sets dark this like ARB or damping. Thank you

[@AndreaDelRiva]

So far, this is the best tuning guide I've ever seen for FH. Well explained, detailed, covering pretty much all the common issues every player face when playing with tuning. I'm not a car people but I love racing games and compete in multiplayer. This is exactly what I need :) I hope you will make one dedicated for a Rally tune as good as this one! Looking forward to it!

[@haveit1955]

Quite possibly the best instructional gaming video I've ever seen. I was having fun playing anyway but this has changed my experience entirely. I'm not wrestling with my cars anymore and just enjoying pure driving now. Thank you for this

[@callahanjohnson]

Really appreciate the time taken to explain what everything means practically and the actual applicability of each stat (ie. when you'd want to adjust it). Also the pictures and in-game examples were SUPER helpful. Thanks a ton for the video!

[@dopenation604]

This is my all time fav video. The amount of information and explanation for a newbie is unremarkable. Even if u don't know nothing about cars this gives u a dummy down with lots of golden nugget and he actually knows what he is talking about.

[@Zoomie_Rest]

I learned so much in 5 minutes. I get this is a video game but you’d make a hell of a teacher

[@ddeewwyy_]

Not a huge racing game fan but wanted to try out FH5 as my first racing game. No clue what I was getting myself into but you have explained a lot in this video. I appreciate it!

[@rjdobson96]

This was spooky, I watched your FH4 Guide the other day and literally came on KZbin to look to see if anyone had made a tuning guide in anticipation for FH5 and here you are! LUL

[@TaIIer]

@Cory Scopis got em

[@zachsteiner]

@Cory Scopis damn boi you got fuckin REKT

[@vgnvideogameninja2930]

Like Un Like? Hmmm, okay.

[@itsryleeduhh]

same with me haha!

[@TeoFeL14]

So the guide for fh4 does not work here?

[@fireghost8045]

I just wanna say the amount of time you put into this save me the amount of time that it takes from knowing nothing to being a pro TYSM

[@fireghost8045]

Also I’m wondering about how to tune considering a drift build. I know that the back is supposed to slide more than the front but I’m not sure how to perfect it

[@RaiseTheRPMs]

Thank You HokiHoshi! I am one who likes to tune their own cars in forza. I almost never download a tune actually. And your videos have been very helpful and detailed.

[@Chiron2k]

This guy is the real teacher of the games ... brilliant job man

[@maxjohn6012]

Glad to see you getting this out early! Your FH4 tuning videos were genuinely invaluable to me, couldn't have enjoyed the game without them and I learned so much. Can't wait to get 5 in a month or two and start following this new guide :)

[@kelb0y9o20]

Game pass my man

[@ThrottleFox]

Tuning my Diablo GTR, with this guide and comments, I got the accolade for getting into the top 5% for circuit. I've been playing less than a week, this is the most useful channel I've found for helping me learn.

[@dynamicDE]

This is by far the best video I've ever seen on tuning in Forza. That's exactly what I was looking for. Great and pleasant voice, all menus are explained in detail, you get formulas and reference values ​​and an explanation of the basic logic / behavior of the car. Awesome!

[@TacoSmurfz]

I have avoided tuning in racing games for so many years because I never properly understood it, But after watching this video a few times I have learned so much and have started tuning my vehicles and the results have been great! thank you so much for such a clear and understandable guide!

[@CY3ER]

I'm glad I clicked on the video, this filled a lot of knowledge gaps for me. I've been playing with the tuning in racing games for a long time but it was mostly intuitive. This really helped me understand more of the physics behind tuning a car and why certain adjustments should be made. I barely ever touched suspection tuning other than camber, toe, and sway bars. Getting that perfect tune is like the chef's kiss, so damn satisfying. Appreciate the awesome video!

[@syntheticknowledge2967]

The advice given up for free in this video helped me take my old school big body camero from handling like a boat to whipping around corners like the S class it was upgraded to be lmao! Thank you for the knowledge my man

[@TheOneandOnlyGodHydra]

My own 2 cents, as a supplement to the info already given in the video - I find the need to tune brake balance a lot more important than it was in previous games. If you are not using ABS, learn to tune brake balance! You can brake harder and not lock your brakes as easily if it's set right. - Optimize your upgrades before you get into fine tuning. Tuning can help a lot with how a car drives, but if you're trying to get a *big* improvement in lap time, play around with upgrades first before you resort to tuning. Don't try to polish a turd! - Rivals is your best friend in helping you find out whether you are actually making improvements or not. Keep running laps until you think you've hit your peak with your current build, change your setup, run it again. Is it faster or slower? Repeat! This is where having a spreadsheet or piece of paper is helpful. Plus you get credits/xp for testing your cars.

[@xZeroGrxvity]

True. It is also great to see how you perform against other cars/players from the same class as reference.

[@ThrottleFox]

I started going this after I read your comment, tuning my Diablo GTR, with tweaking I got the accolade for getting into the top 5% for circuit

[@lartonki]

@@xZeroGrxvity It also depends on your skill level, on higher skill level rivals tune are made be as fast as possible which almost allways means that all aero goes on to speed what not really make most comfy car on normal situation. I havent dive in rivals that mutch on fh5 but on earlier horizon games this was so extreme levels, like fh3 c-class old ford "32 was beast having something like 1000hp it was damn fast and really terrible to drive. or like on a-class i use some holden saloon with max out lambo V12 engine, that was easily able to get over 400km/h on races but every corner you basicly just drift thruw

[@paulv5260]

This is one of the most informative and useful Forza videos I've seen. Breaking things into small, digestible chunks that the average guy/gal can understand. I took a car at random, Ford Focus RS, and did a base tune using the first half of video, and it was day/night difference and once you have a base tune, its easy to try a little of this or that cause its not as overwhelming. Again, solid video and thanks for taking the time and putting in the effort so the rest of us can enjoy. A++

[@7F0X7]

As a total racing noob thank you SO MUCH for this video! I'll be coming back to it again and again, I'm sure. Liked, favorited, and subscribed!

[@j.d.4697]

Invaluable video! Much better than all those "set it to 2.4 cause that's the best" tuning "guides".

[@hogibunz834]

This is one of those videos that I will be watching time and time again to get all the information out of it. So much good stuff, so much to handle. Absolutely phenomenal content, I appreciate a lot❤️

[@carl7298]

What a brilliant video m8 👍 THANKYOU so much uve helped a man who couldn't get his head round tuning finally understand how to

[@R3L72]

Much Respect! I got into the habit of downloading locked tunes in Forza Motorsports games and having a great time. With Horizon games, it was frustrating because there’s really no set track parameters because of the varied terrain. Frustration equaled quits for Horizon racing. So Thank You, Thank You! My sanity will return and I can finally enjoy Horizon 5. I’ll be rewatching this video a lot but at least I know now, that I can tune that under steer in AWD cars. Subscribed!

[@RikkertPaulB]

Thanks for this video. I am having so much more fun with Forza now. Finally able to make decent tunes myself is so much more satisfying than always downloading other people's work.

[@PilotoBahia]

you explained the concepts better than the tuning menu text tutorials, thanks!

[@magedojo]

Hey man. I'm late to the party, but I wanted to let you know how incredibly helpful this video was. I've watched it like 10 times with the goal of getting a great class A car for road racing. I chose the 1997 Nissan GT-R V-SPEC as the base starting point. After upgrades to push this to the top of class A, and unlocking everything needed to do a full tune, then following all of your advice here...this thing is an absolute joy to drive. Still some more tweaks needed but it is definitely getting there. Thank you so much for all the hard work it took to put thus together and sharing it with the Forza community. So much more satisfying than downloading someone else's tune with the flexibility to fine tune and tweak things for individual driving preferences. That was pretty long winded, but seriously, thank you!!!

[@RL9VI]

I am trying to do the exact same with the 1997 GTR and cannot get it to grip at all? Tyres instantly red out of any corner and slides everywhere. Tried every. Can you please help me?

[@Zipcode1609]

Thank god you made this. Every since the new suspension I can’t tune rebound. This video is a life saver

[@joeybag-odonuts7481]

After 2 1/2 hours of taking notes I am officially done with this video. It was very helpful though.

[@SplaysRacing]

You’re a forza professional. I love that you made this guide so quickly - thankyou!

[@mr.embers4600]

I got into your videos back during FH4. I've been keeping an eye on your channel ever since. I have this video, your FWD quick guide and RWD guide saved to a playlist so I can go "back to school" whenever I feel like my tunes aren't going my way. I love how clear you are in the videos and I love the info panels that you've added in that show how important you think each setting is and sometimes even where you set your base builds to make your life easier.

[@jackcolson4745]

How to tune for high downforce, s2 998 track cars. This can also work with slower cars. 1. Take front weight distribution in decimal form and subtract it with 1 to get the rear weight distribution in decimal form. 2. Multiply both decimal values with the weight of the car to get front and rear weight in kg or lbs. 3. Set your downforce in the tuning menu to the desired amount (in s2 998 this is recommended to be at the max for both sliders). Take the front downforce value and add it to the front weight you calculated in kg or lbs, then do the same for the rear downforce and rear weight. 4. Next, add both the new front and rear weights to get the total weight of the car when under the load of downforce (at an specified speed). 5. Take the front weight (the one that includes the downforce weight) and divide it by the total weight of the car that includes the downforce weight to get the weight distribution as a decimal. Do the same for the rear (PLEASE make sure the smaller number goes first in the calculator!) All of this was for getting the front and rear weight distribution of the car when it is under aerodynamic load. 6. In the tuning menu, go to rebound stiffness. Take the [new] front weight distribution and multiply it by 17, then take that answer add 3. Repeat this formula for the rear weight distribution. This is for calculating front and rear rebound stiffness. 7. Next go to bump stiffness. Multiply the front and rear rebound stiffness by a value of anywhere between 0.6 to 0.75 to get the bump stiffness. Both front and rear must be multiplied by the same decimal, so no 0.6 and 0.7. Higher downforce cars will need higher values closer to 0.75. 8. Divide the new weight of your car that includes the weight of the aerodynamic load by the ACTUAL weight of it to get the weight difference (this will be a value *greater* than 1). This time the bigger number comes BEFORE the smaller number in the calculator. 9. Next go to spring stiffness. Set the slider to the lowest value and multiply that by the weight difference factor you just calculated in step 8. Set the slider to the highest value and multiplayer that by the weight difference factor. Then subtract the new highest and lowest values to get your range value. 10. Take your NEW front and rear weight distribution decimals and multiply them by your range to get the corresponding front and rear spring stiffness. 11. Lower ride height all the way down. 12. Go to anti-roll bar stiffness. Multiply your weight difference value by 64 to get your arb range. Now this is VERY IMPORTANT to remember. Cars that have a front weight distribution less than 0.50 will have a front anti-roll bar stiffness GREATER than its rear anti-roll bar stiffness and vice versa. So this means to get the FRONT anti-roll bar stiffness, multiply the arb range by the REAR weight distribution and then add the weight difference value AFTER you have already calculated the range times weight difference. Do this to get the front and rear anti-roll bar stiffness. 13. Recommend leaving tire pressure at the default of 30. You can make low tire builds that are like F1 car tunes but that is much more complicated. So I won't be going into it. 14. Recommend leaving brake pressure at 100%, but race cars generally have brake balance anywhere from 52 to 60%. Since I tune mid engine cars that have more weight in the rear (yes even under aerodynamic load) I always set it to 54% 15. Differential settings rule of thumb is more power = higher rear acceleration percentage with the max being 75%. Rear decel should generally be the same or 5% lower than your rear accel. On AWD differentials, the front accel shouldn't ever be above 50% and the front decel should always be 0%. For the AWD power balance, the rule of thumb is higher percentage = higher top speed and more oversteer/less grip, lower percentage = lower top speed and more understeer/more grip, with the minimum you should use being 65% 16. In alignment, there is extensive testing you can do with the in game telemetry to hone in your camber and caster settings, but I'll make it simple; -3 front camber -2 rear camber. no toe adjustments at all. For caster all I can say is, 5.0 for slower cars and/or stable cars that understeer, 6.0 for faster cars and/or unstable/tail-happy cars that oversteer. Now I'm not going to go in-depth into gear tuning even though I know exactly how to because that is an entire other lengthy chapter, so all I will say is to adjust the final drive gear so that (look at the graph in the bottom right) the last gear in the series of gears intersects the redline at the very end of the right side of the graph. Yes I know this is a long comment. I hoped it helped!

[@georgejones5019]

Can you explain step 12 with the anti-roll bars? I'm trying this out to see how it works while also writing it out as a mathematical formula for each step.

[@bemo9]

recommendation where to see gear tuning ?

[@ladyivyanna9612]

This is a banger of comment! Thanks for the guide!! Is this useful for the lower end cars as well?

[@jackcolson4745]

@@georgejones5019 Sorry for the late reply, KZbin didn't send me a notification. So to reiterate in mathematical formula form; This example will use a mid-rear engine hypercar with a front weight distribution _that accounts for the additional downforce weight already_ that is 44% or 0.44. So you would get this value by adding the front and rear downforce to the front and rear weight of the car, and then divide the new front/rear by the total weight of the car with the downforce acting on it (the value in the aero tuning menu usually uses the amount of downforce being produced at 120 mph). Weight difference multiplier of the actual weight of the car and the car + the downforce weight. Ex: 1.3 heavier with downforce at 120mph. ((1.3 * 64) * 0.56) + 1.3 = 47.9 which is the front anti-roll bar stiffness. ((1.3 * 64) * 0.44) + 1.3 = 37.9 which is the rear anti-roll bar stiffness. Hope this clarifies things!

[@jackcolson4745]

@@bemo9 I don't know where you could find a good in depth description, so I'll explain it here, but I don't want to go in depth so I'll simplify it. Gear tuning can sometimes be preferential if you have somewhat of a good set up. But the jist is that you want low gears to last short and have a tall rev range for low speed acceleration, and high gears to last long and have a small rev range to squeeze out the most top speed. But you don't want to immediately switch from tall to short, you want the beginning or bottom of the gears to look like a gradually flattening curve. Sometimes you'll want a little more acceleration so the last gear could actually be lower and longer than the gear before so you don't run out of top speed. The best pointer I can give is to use the graph in the bottom right. It really helps visualize what exactly the gears are doing when you change them.

[@vardongrey2667]

You just keep increasing the gold standard in explaining everything about Horizon Forza. Awesome work well done.

[@goofybad]

Forza 5 is my first forza game and I wanted to say a huge thank you! This video really helped me out. When I first saw that menu I had no clue what to do and after watching this and playing the game more i'm way more comfortable messing with these to really tune a car to my liking. Again. huge thank you from a new forza fan and subscriber! 🤙🤙

[@kodydeckard6059]

I can drag tune a vehicle very well. I came here for pointers on tuning for track and while the video is lengthy it was well worth the watch. Im very impressed and very grateful to you for making this. Good job!

[@anubiszthedj]

Informative, well detailed, with a calm voice.. Just what we need for a great tuning guide.. Well done sir!

[@remskkii]

I'm only half way through and I simply CANNOT believe the detail in this vid. Tysm, easiest earned sub ever.

[@stevebuscemi3622]

I was adjusting my coilovers on my real life car and this was helpful reinforcing how suspension works.

[@unclejam1]

This video is not just about the game itself. It also helps me a lot to understand the mechanism of the car engineering. Learned a lot from you. Thank you so much for the inspiring content. 30 minutes is too short.

[@bert4969]

Found your channel about a week ago when I wanted to learn how to tune a differential. I love the content and how in depth you go in each video. I also love how you explain everything in a way that’s easy to understand. Keep up the good work and before you know you’ll have a humongous audience!

[@binfaray]

Finally 1M views after 2 months 😍 although you deserve it a week after uploading this encyclopedia!

[@certifiedwack9042]

As someone who’s at college bc I like cars and is on my schools FSAE (we basically build a little go-kart sized formula car from scratch) this is so helpful and thought out. Not only will it help you tune and optimize your Forza builds but everything also applies to real life vehicle handling. Nearly everything that he talked about is something that I have either learned through reading vehicle dynamics textbooks or through a class that i’ve taken. I honestly might share this video with some of the younger team members who are still learning about tuning and vehicle handling because this is SUPER good, makes sense, and is way more interesting than reading a textbook!

[@RandomPerson-ob1hk]

That project must be fun haha Like a go kart but more dangerous and more fast

[@certifiedwack9042]

@@RandomPerson-ob1hk pretty much, it’s such a good time and a really fun experience. our little go kart thing has a carbon fiber monocoque, a full aero package, weighs about 500 with a driver in it, and makes 75hp

[@MadHatterMiles215]

This really helped with a car I recently started working on, a lot more people should definitely watch this as it helps utilize a rarely talked about aspect of Forza amongst some players outside of gearing

[@MotoxLife]

Thank god😍 yesterday I started playing and the amount of tuning and the different aspects from fh4 confused me so mutch!

[@TheCptPepper]

I've been playing since forza 6 and never really understood tuning very well. I most just relied on my friends to make the best cars. This changes everything! THANK YOU SO MUCH! And if this is you covering the basics I can't wait to hear you go in depth.

[@TwizslurD]

Possible helpful tip for my controller brethren: If your car handles great everywhere _except_ for when you turn into a corner (back end slides when turning the wheel), try turning on simulation steering in the difficulty settings. It makes steering inputs more realistic, as if driving with a wheel. Usually this is MEANT for a wheel, but it helped me. I spent hours trying to adjust turn in without sacrificing grip elsewhere and was losing my mind. Turned this setting on, and the issue disappeared with no extra adjustment to my tune. It'll take time to get used to if you aren't too familiar with the more sim side of racing games on controller, but I hope it saves someone some headache.

[@AfroJamurai]

Wth,why did this actually help so much? Great tip 👍

[@dexarok]

This is fantastic advice. I'm late to this game overall, but it cannot be overstated how much Simulation steering is better than Standard on a controller.

[@psd993]

Thank you. The default setting always threw me off because the guy just doesnt turn the wheel they way I'm moving the steering. There's like a weird lag. Even after reducing the deadzones and such, it just didnt feel the same as assetto corsa.

[@GTrules123]

This man has single-handedly made me love this game 2x as much now

[@jakezamalis935]

Your tuning tips helped me break 500k on needle climb with a rwd. Don’t sleep on this man!

[@dongonzulman6478]

Hey, me too! I was stuck around 450k on a Porsche 968 then went through his FH4 guide and finally broke that 500k mark :D

[@1020dr]

Using the bmw z4 and toyota corolla FD i broke near 1 mil mark 😁

[@oscarlarson682]

The absolute goat, he made forza 4 way better for me and now forza 5 what a legend

[@jaykeen5117]

I have to say this guide has made my cars infinitely more responsive and fun to drive! I've been watching your videos since Forza horizon 4 and you've really made things easy to understand! Thank you for all your hard work Hoki!

[@dihydrogenmonoxide2878]

I've watched this at least a dozen times and always gotten great tunes from it, fantastic guide.

[@georgejones5019]

Really great and informative. I'll have to follow this new guide two or three times with different builds and what the goal is, such as Rally vs. Drift. Going back over this. Rally tuning seems to be much more tricky than street. As you want a good amount of balance of acceleration and grip, so you handle through a turn then return back to a decent speed.

[@macdthebruin2]

HokiHoshi...... my guy.... thank you so much for this video. Finally got my '08 Evo X to actually be able to take turns at speed. 100% felt like trying to race with a school bus before watching, and now feels like an actual race car. Please keep making good and helpful Forza tuning videos.

[@chickenx5694]

I thought this was a turning guide. Wish me luck on my journey to learning how to turn🙏

[@McGrubbers4]

This is my third comment so far so obviously I LOVE this video. HOWEVER, I find myself struggling a bit with the adjustments. One example of this is the tire temperatures. I have played around with camber and tire pressure and can't for the life of me figure out how to get the tire heat well-balanced. If I change camber to fix a separate issue, it then affects tire temperature, etc. I think what is really needed here are EXAMPLES. I have done plenty of searching and cannot find ANY videos on youtube of someone going through the tuning process that actually knows what they are doing. For example, turning front camber to -8 degrees and showing what that would do, and then fine tuning it to your liking. The reason I'm saying this is because I found a tune that strayed from several of the concepts you mention in this video and it drives excellently. I think we all have the ability to move things around and test them ourselves, but watching someone like you who actually knows what they are doing would be a great way to guide people in the trial and error process, and a great compliment to this wonderfully informative video. Thanks for the content!

[@ashleypurdy767]

I also can’t get the camber to stay in positives without getting up to at at least a 40 degree temp difference between the inside and outside of the rear tire

[@Demorthus]

28:28 Throttle management in RWD; just, YES! I personally feel this is one that many people feel like either their tune or the car they're driving performs poorly at start or powering through and out of a corner, yet simply haven't acknowledged that *usually*, it's got to do with how much throttle you're applying. Too much and you will likely spin out most of the time, it's not necessarily the tune, as much as it is just all the power with a limited surface area of the width of the tires themselves, assuming all else is equal you still need to compensate the expected "burn-off moment" by slowly learning - and it will vary by car as well - how much to get the car moving forward and not just... spinning in place and then also typically losing grip for a second upon 2nd gear because again it's now rotating faster than the amount of traction it has at that moment to pull you forward and not just slip.

[@eduardovitiello3316]

Starting to tune cars thanks to this video. I literally have it playing while I'm tuning. Thank you for the precious advice.

[@TheDepleteduranium]

This an absolutely amazing guide, thank you. It would be great to see a video that builds upon this for Offroad too

[@qRenuu]

This video is 2years old haven’t played forza in forever bought 5 to get back into drags and just cruising around and didn’t wannna download tunes tried some tip videos then came across this masterpiece thanks !

[@HD-zj7dy]

This guide helped me do exactly what I wanted to do, Make my Dodge Charger RT into a usable rally car

[@ethanbush984]

love that lmao, just dont try a rwd 2jz miata rally build (from experience)

[@cia6911]

@@ethanbush984 would u care to elaborate?

[@cin2110]

@@ethanbush984 That sounds awesome though maybe awd

[@JRSRLN]

Maaaan, I use the Ford Falcon XB. Mad Max it through the Mexican dunes boooooi!

[@sirlikesmagicalot]

I feel like I'm in a class while watching this video. There is more than just buying cars and racing around, tuning is key to perfect the cars driving condition! Hats off to you bro for this incredible intuitive video!

[@zetaalpha7200]

I was thrown right away looking at all the adjustments. I knew FH5 would be a little different, so I waited for a tut with Hoshi. (next day from opening 5 Nov) Thanks so much Hoshi I really appreciate all the work you do. You should be making money for your work. You will probably get a million views just from me! Thanks again.

[@BarkavaGio]

This is one of the most important videos on youtube who loves Forza, before this video I thought I was tuning cars properly. after watching this my cars handle just as I always wanted. Thank you !

[@Seanseanseen]

im too dumb for this

[@anonymousgamer2706]

took a while to understand but if you give it some time it’s simple

[@xLukeRYT]

Same im dumb

[@prakhar1259]

You are not alone

[@DJ_Rythmixx]

I literally just sat here and wrote this stuff down lol this is my first XBox (I've been on Playstation since the original) thus being my first Forza and I had no idea how in depth this game was and I was super overwhelmed.....I can't thank you enough for this video man!!!

[@kubev]

I do have a few more questions in addition to the one I asked in my other comment: 1. Will you be doing a rally tuning video? Or can you at least explain what things are more/less important for rally builds when tuning? 2. I have a lot of trouble "reading" the telemetry while also paying attention to what I'm doing on a course. Any tips for how to read the telemetry more effectively? 3. Are most cars in the game tuned "correctly" by default for most people? In other words, does the need to tune a car (aside from for personal taste) exist for a car that's completely stock?

[@mitchell9937]

He has a great rally video for FH4. It's pretty much identical to how you would do it in FH5.

[@Frosty_V0]

@@mitchell9937 no it’s not

[@blitz3874]

Imo the fine tuning will get you the extra edge on pvp aswell as making the car handle more the way you like to drive. As in reading and driving, you'll get used to it; try teaching your brain some muscle memory (learning brake points and corner entry) by doing the same track/section over and over again, Thats what I did

[@mitchell9937]

@@Frosty_V0 Yes it is. Apart from the formulas he uses, the rest is the same. It's trial and error.

[@JRSRLN]

Yessss... I need a rally/offroad tuning vid. I can win Apex and Street Races easily, but Baja and Wilds, it's a completely botched job lol, I cannot tune an offroader to save my life lmao...

[@Doc_Hollladay]

This video literally made my favorite car a joy to drive. Hands down the best video out for tuning

[@tyleraspey4675]

My brain halfway through, 🤯🤯

[@Dirtysteve1738]

Facts 😂

[@wesd3370]

Man, I feel way better about this guidance than all the other videos saying things that are super unrealistic (like tire pressures at 15psi)

[@babtanian]

I’m a total noob to the franchise and this was sorely needed; thank you 🙂 However, I do not have the option to switch Anna to Telemetry in settings. It’s not there at all. Do you know what might be happening there? I’m on XBox Series X.

[@reallugia97]

same, i swear i saw this option before, but now i cant find it anywhere

[@reallugia97]

Ohhh, you need to make sure that your control layout has all the options for selecting anna filled in, if your in a default profile it will show up, you can switch to a default profile, then save and exit the menu, and then reload the menu and it will be there

[@yubasama3346]

This is the best tutorial I could find, all other tutorials where just the base tuning or sacrificing handling for more speed. It's also well explained so you can solve problems yourself. Thank U very much. ❤

[@Aussie_Farmer77]

You’ve left out the single most important aspect when fine tuning any vehicle. It’s super important to make changes to one aspect of the tune at a time, if you make too many changes at once you are introducing to many variables and this makes it near on impossible to figure out what has happened. This will lead to other problems and before long the tune will go backwards. When fine tuning you only ever do one thing at a time. Great video for covering the basics otherwise.

[@metallicafan416]

I agree with this once getting towards the final tune, but being experienced with this series and real world performance cars I do it differently to start. 1st I drive the car in a race stock, see its tendencies and make many adjustments based on what I felt. As you get the general build close than I start making 1 at a time adjustments

[@radosbarner1734]

This guy is an absolute legend. It took me like, 20+ watches of this video to fully comprehend it, but here I am, with a nicely tuned and easier to drive Rimac C_2