How to RWD in Forza Horizon 5 | Building/Tuning/Driving Tips for Rear Wheel Drive Cars

[@HokiHoshi]

Hey folks - thanks for bearing with me on this one taking so long to get out, and having some video/audio imperfections. I've been learning a new editing software and have been sick with covid the past 2 weeks so video work has been slow. Either way, hope you enjoy and find it helpful!

[@maddisonmad2710]

I think a rain/wet race tuning/driving guide would be a nice

[@Trowoyy]

Hope you’re doing alright. Thank you for putting these videos out :)

[@illestgt-r3714]

@@maddisonmad2710 best thing for rain is to just change tires. if you have Race semi slicks. a good exchange would be to swap out those for sport tires. or even rally. they grip much better in wet conditions. give them both a try

[@jcream2707]

Fwd tuning guide?

[@nitroxwolf2098]

Get well soon Hoki we are all here for you

[@goodie2shoes874]

If this stops people from AWD swapping everything, then this video is a gem.

[@pipedreamin]

Let’s hope they see it

[@bogstandardash3751]

Hi, that's me !

[@itsdokko2990]

Lmao this game actually made me into a FWD main :p

[@Jaxan-dq2jy]

This video is already a gem

[@kinderboy17]

I have seen tune for LFA with awd v12swap and forza aero 🤮🤮🤮 After that i have making tunes myself 😎

[@snowshoe3274]

I'm glad you mentioned deadzones, as its crucial for throttle and brake management and is often overlooked. However, optimal deadzone settings will be different everyone. Therefore it's important to set them up yourself, instead of taking fixed values like 5-95. Here's a quick and easy way to do it: 1) Set inside and outside dead zones to 0 and 100 respectively. Do this for acceleration (throttle trigger) and deceleration (brake trigger). 2) Go into the game and pull up telemetry, switch to the page where it shows you the % of throttle and brake applied. 3) Do not touch any of the controls and look at the readouts for brake and throttle: - If they're both at 0 and not moving, you're golden. Leave the inside deadzone at 0. - If they're not completely at 0 or even going up and down a little bit, go up one notch with inside deadzone. Then go back into telemetry. Repeat until both readouts are 0. 4) Now, fully press the brake trigger and hold it: - If it goes up to 100% and stays there while you're holding it, you're set. - If it doesn't reach 100% or goes up and down, go *down* one notch with decel *outside* deadzone. Then go back into telemetry. Repeat until brake readout is 100 flat. 5) Next, drive your car up against a wall. Fully press and hold the throttle: - If it goes up to 100% and stays there while you're holding it, you're set. - If it doesn't reach 100% or goes up and down, go *down* one notch with accel *outside* deadzone. Then go back into telemetry. Repeat until throttle readout is 100 flat. 6) Done.

[@anti-tryhard]

I've been playing since FH3 and never knew about this setting (or rather knew that it wasn't at 0 by default) And yes, playing with less deadzone is way better!

[@joalex79]

ty

[@jbdemarest9913]

Me thinking I’m getting good at the game reading this comment: NOOOOOOOOOO :’(

[@Derek21701]

What about steering?

[@crammons7330]

​@el jefe it's for before and after tuning etc goes as it'll help driving in general as it gives much better throttle and brake control

[@downfall2735]

You winning the race in the beginning against the rammer was so satisfying

[@csanadjeles8527]

Agree everyone just bumping me in onlinr

[@Toshiro4619]

I can't help it. I get to total supercars with no real life consequences.

[@Frosty_V0]

@@Toshiro4619 that doesn't mean it's ok to ram others

[@hitmanzzz]

That guy was so bad, he was locking up every corner, he deserved to loose

[@spooky8662]

I love how RWD feels! So happy they updated it.

[@waffle911]

For gear tuning, I find on high HP builds, a long first gear like 1960's race cars that reaches all the way to 60mph/100km/h makes for more consistent, fast launches with controlled wheel spin, and allows all other gears to group closer together in the high end of the power band. Depending on power, 100mph/160km/h might come late in 2nd for high power, or somewhere in 3rd gear for medium power.

[@lilwavybone691]

I do this too

[@Varinius]

thanks so much for pointing out the deadzone adjustment, the vast variety of settings in this game overwhelmed me as a first time Horizon player, didn't even know I could change the accel range of my trigger and I always felt like it was too small!

[@pipedreamin]

Your tuning guides are the best out there. Thanks for putting them up and keep up the good work.

[@jakecole7447]

RWD Feels really good in this game imo. Love driving the Rear engined porsches they just have so much grip out of the corners and you can give it just a little slip to reduce understeer.

[@GXVoid116]

The porsches are so much fun to drive in this game. i find high powered builds have a lot of wheel spin, but increasing the length of the first gear helps a ton

[@coffeehawk]

Regarding springs and ride height: IIRC spring numbers are "spring rate" (pounds per inch) so to keep the same spring force when lowering ride height one would want to increase spring rate, not decrease.

[@Driftuner]

One more tip: if you managed to dial in your tune but still find yourself sliding out of corners due to lack of throttle control, shift one gear up. Yes it will "feel" much slower because you will be hearing your engine struggling to make power compared to a lower gear, but the added grip, car control and no shift pause out of the corner will more than make up for the power difference. For example when you are approaching a second gear corner where you alway "drift" out of it, just leave it in third and give it a try

[@titanic616]

Thank you so much for making this I've always wanted to try RWD but never knew how

[@Molnar147]

This video just increased my enjoyment of the game x10.. thank you

[@texmex4321]

I love tuning mid engine rwd cars Very high rear springs and shockers with front springs/shocks at half rear strength is a good start to control a lot of high power monsters

[@danieljackson5687]

Do you have any share code for the bmw m4 I can’t seem to find the best tune for it

[@spandel100]

For such an informative Forza channel,I am surprised you do not have a much higher subscriber base.Your videos are always excellent.Take care.

[@vatsalparmar5740]

Taking a low class rwd car with a shitty gear box rev matching with manual/clutch down the road in guanajuato through the tunnels slowly is a vibe. So is driving a mad powerful rwd monster in S1 and S2 class through a pack of racers. Thanks for the video.

[@berkcalskan3949]

Omg I needed this video so much. I just don't want to drive awd, it's no fun even I am placing in top 3 with it. I was rwding and placing in last 5 in online races before watching this video, hope it helps

[@Whin556]

Hoki back again with another banger. Thank you for all of the help over the years.

[@nitroxwolf2098]

The rally tires really through me off I was like HUH really?. Well you learn something new every guide HokiHoshi puts out.

[@carlomendoza6173]

I've actually tuned with your guides RWD and I have an F50 GT wich is really beautiful to drive :D

[@dusty111]

Thank you for this video! I prefer RWD up to S1 because i prefer the handling and being light with more power. It seems like i tuned my cars quite ok, almost exactly like you explained but i think i mess up with tyre compound sometimes. Didn't think that rallye tyres are really that good until i made a really good tune for the hoonigan escort and it was dominating the rivals event (all by accident)

[@SDTuts]

I found success with rally tires on A class build. They don't cost that much in terms of PI and they grip more than enough for the power you get in that class. B class don't need them and higher than A they're kind of useless, at least on those cars I tuned until now. Of course there's always exceptions, but these are my go-to tyre compounds when thinking of balance.

[@dusty111]

@@SDTuts for S1/S2 i strongly prefer the semi slicks for road racing, thats really why i was so surprised they worked. Honestly i took them cause with the PI left i was able to use more power

[@iamatlantis1]

I've finally been playing a lot of FH5 after having it since launch and not playing it yet. I played a ton of the older Forza Motorsport games and never learned much about the tuning. Your videos are great, thank you. I remember rear wheel drive being better in certain ways in the old games too. Just recently I turned off traction control though and realized I wasn't tuning rear wheel drive correctly at all.

[@Real28]

RWD ALL THE THINGS! I only AWD on dirt. Everything else is RWD. It's literally the highest skill ceiling in FH5 as you can easily be faster than AWD. My only complaint is I think that AWD should have a 5-10% higher PI penalty but I love destroying someone using AWD with my RWD tunes.

[@nicolasortiz5534]

What a great last Second pass!!!! Such a good clip

[@mattmcquaid9615]

Nice one dude have been waiting for a good rear wheel drive tuning guide. Really enjoying rwd cars in fh5. Went so far as to check out your fh4 rwd tune. Happy hunting and keep the videos coming 😊🤘

[@Cdoesgames2]

Thank you so much! I never thought to use rally tires to save PI

[@Qunia]

Honestly surprised some things I didn’t catch some of these things. I basically drive RWD exclusively, because of my straight up refusal to AWD swap anything.

[@travisaustin3537]

This is something I’ve been trying to learn. Thanks so much for all your help here on this subject!

[@fleetcore5516]

Been waiting for this video for so long now I have some tips and tricks to use for my vipers

[@jaydenray2803]

Rwd is so fun. Rwd rally builds are amazing to drive, even if awd can beet it

[@Moerfi91]

Great Vid, just like your other ones on tuning. Managed to learn to make tunes myself with those videos so i can finally stop searching around all day long to find a good tune while also having the looks just as i like it :D Especially this Rwd video helped a lot since i finally could adjust my AMG Hammer rwd tune and make it much more playable :) keep up the great work :)

[@fataldragon69]

Nice tips.....Nice to hear someone explaining the finer more crucial points of traction and weight distribution etc. !! One of my favourite cars to drive in FH5 is the Lamborghini Centenario and I always play using the CockPit view (the view after the one that shows the drivers hands and wheel but still shows the dashboard) as I play with a Wheel and Pedal set-up in a Racing Rig.....There's quite a few reasons why this is one of my favourite, one of them being that it has a Digital G-Force Meter/Reader on the Cars Dashboard, which actually works, showing you the direction and level of G's in real-time !! I thought this was a nice feature and great attention to detail made by Playground Games !! Admittedly, it's a bit on the small side but none-the-less it still works and it could be a great learning tool for those players that understand too much about G-Force !!

[@StriderCZ]

I love the changes that were done to RWD vehicles. It's noticeably better than FH4. I just wish tires were better, because loss of grip in certain situations is weird... I don't think they have tire compounds and grip quite as dialed in as it could be. Some cars are extremely grippy, and some, that have set records on real world racetracks don't seem to hook up very well at all. It's quite sad.

[@CoDZombiesDPS]

What tire pressure are you working with? You often can go a lot lower than you think, 1.5 bars seems to be a good middle ground for a lot of tunes

[@denm6893]

@BishBash agreed. A lot of people don't realize this fact. Plus, it's more rewarding when you get rwd down in races

[@laserbeam1620]

Tires get too hot and they lose grip! Pretty realistic honestly

[@agjr392]

Been needing this video Very well explained and detailed

[@braka42]

lol that classic forza online experience at 2:27

[@juanchobg99]

I Know you already have a dirt tuning guide, for it would be cool to have one specifically for cross country, great videos man, thanks

[@KuroTheDesigner]

Absolutely loved this vid, I can't wait to learn more from you

[@kilianfirebolt]

Driving rwd powerbuilds on keyboard without tcr may not have been my best idea, but i made it work thanks

[@THE_BEEFEATER]

The clip at the beginning was sick

[@loganm2766]

Thanks for the driving tips. I haven’t seen explained the way you did it

[@justintime2472]

Great video man been helping me out a lot really…real good guide

[@AmodeusR]

Niice, the video I was waiting for!

[@SDTuts]

Hi Hoki, great tips as always! I'll list some problems I've encountered since I started my own builds in the hope of someone, if not you, could help me out; 1. High turning radius on hairpins and/or low-speed sharp corners. 2. Suspension adjustments. I love racing in the narrow city streets but my suspension/damping setup always throw me off the ground when hitting ground objects like the small roundabouts. On the other side, if I soften things up the car becomes skittish at corners when the suspension compresses. 3. First and second gear. I still don't know how to tune these two gears without making them lose too much time. I either make them too long or too short somehow. Thank you in advance to everyone who reaches out to me!

[@aurastrike]

I actually find that making the first gear quite long helps jurassically with launch; it should be somewhat in line with the others. If you need to dial in your launch, just run it a few times in the drag strip and adjust when needed

[@SDTuts]

@@aurastrike I forgot to mention I play with tcs on. I have a feeling that if I make first gear too long the rear tires grip a bit too early therefore making me lose time (maybe not that much on turbocharged engines). What settings are you on? Btw, ty for responding!

[@KenWiggerAnotherAncientGamer]

Thanks for the hints & tips!

[@klausklausen8058]

you sir, are a legend!

[@glub__blub]

I’d love to see a video that goes more in depth on your driving school video. Such as proper times to pass people (especially if they’re a rammer), how the driving line changed to pass somebody, how to pick cars, etc

[@Weeji_420]

You get most of what you're after from experience. The more you play the more you learn how to deal with rammers. Their aggression is always their downfall! Learn the tracks, remember the worst corners and safe fast ways to take them. I usually find wider slower entry works most, let the idiots all fly up the inside, then turn lol. Rammers aren't really an issue, they are stupid. Dirty drivers, players who are fast and know WHEN to ram, they are hard to beat 🤣 Beware all bridges!!!

[@aurastrike]

@@Weeji_420 *flashbacks to the first bridge on the Goliath*

[@masoooooo3911]

What a sick finish

[@vakostyle]

This is what I was waiting for! Very valuable video, thank you.

[@TheLambo123254]

great video

[@HAv0C_1506]

it makes sense when semislick causes too much PI since it handles in wettrack better than slick, it doesnt slip when semi offtrack like slick, and it brakes better than slick. slick has better accel and better dry/hot track handling.

[@mattmanley7118]

Excellent guide!

[@CalvinCalintonSong]

Hey Sir Hoki, hope you a speedy recovery! Just a quick question if you don't mind. Will we see you covering Gran Turismo 7 here in the similar fashion you do for Forza? Thanks!

[@kspectre21]

He doesn't have a PlayStation so if it doesn't come to PC then it's very unlikely to see on the channel.

[@alexc.8424]

Excited and hoping for a fwd tuning video soon

[@RoronoaZoro-fq4cw]

Great video!

[@chrisvicera6696]

I definitely needed this

[@pulsemysti9061]

I was in the Audi 🤣. I didn't want to block you in the end, only wanted to close the acceleration space. Sorry 🤭 was a really nice race ggs. Greetings from Germany

[@HokiHoshi]

Heyy no way! No worries I figured the hit wasn't intentional, thanks for such a good race haha! I jumped online just to film, and the race with you was the very first one which was great to use in the video!

[@JOSHHARRIS-v3w]

Driving the Exorcist for a few months without TCS taught me a lot about throttle control lol

[@shockingvenus8322]

For dirt racing i prefer awd but on road rwd is the most fun for me

[@JRSRLN]

I'm glad I'm not the only who keeps the drive train stock for RWD cars... I mean, an AWD McLaren P1? That's just sacrilegious lol.

[@aurastrike]

i only upgrade if the car is too slidy for the class i'm building it in

[@Qvartz_Lite]

Thank you!!!

[@timeslowingdown]

The way you emphasize different words while speaking is exactly like voo csgo and I have no idea why but it's trippy. Love the videos though.

[@jeremygorski9801]

In my experience awd is still op but I love the feeling of driving and adjusting rwd cars

[@JohnFromAccounting]

I play using my trusty old 360 controller. I really struggle using the Series controller because there's not enough resistance on the sticks which makes small movements extremely hard to do.

[@ShawFujikawa]

Did you try adjusting your steering linearity for more bias towards small inputs?

[@akr0781]

Thanks!

[@timeslowingdown]

Also I swear rally tires are the sweet spot for tire choice most of the time!

[@bruv2378]

Thanks you're the best :)

[@ZykopathOfficial]

When RWD works in a race, it’s really rewarding!

[@NovaRedHead]

I use the deadzone on my pedals themselves, specifically the clutch pedal. Only 10-95 but it helps with resting my foot on the clutch unnecessarily 🙄🤷🏼‍♂️ Awesome video again my guy! Rwd is definitely more viable in FH5 and I had the general idea right at least haha

[@djbis]

very helpful, dude!

[@Mrhummer1]

very nice it was very useful to me too I bring contents of this kind;)

[@Hiddenus1]

Somehow ARB calculation system from FH4 works for me as base from which I adjust my rwd and usually not by much.

[@christophguti7954]

Driving every car with its original Drivetrain :D And i drive with an thrustmaster Wheel, so yeah it should be possible to do the same with the controller i guess :D The Trial this week with the Gt40 was a challenge tho :D This car doesnt allow any errors, this paired with unbeatable ai, and teammates that dont get the point of why to break in corners and ramming you all the time its wild.

[@gokuangry]

Can we have a clip for race/street tuning for some car categories like: supercars, muscle cars and so on. Maybe not all of them together but this help us the plebs who struggle with tuning an nice car to race with.

[@fpswick8458]

I miss the OG horizon where you couldn't awd swap everything. I do however like the racing v6, v8 and v12 swaps to give all cars insane power.

[@sestenwhen]

Question: Why does lowering ride height in the rear all the way down and all the way up in the front make the Top Speed specs go higher?

[@tudorgafitanu4789]

I love making RWD builds, they are much more rewarding and fun to use in online races. But my question is: what's your opinion about FWD builds in B class? Are they viable for races? I would love to see a video about FWD in FH5 for racing! :D

[@ChrisTheBmxGuy]

I have a B class 74 civic, front wheel drive on drag tires. Odd ball setup but a BEAST on technical tracks. Top 1% on quite a few rivals. Wide body, aero front and rear. Widest tires rear and only first upgrade front tires.

[@Hugo-tw8ip]

FWD B700 are great! They are very competitive on online racing and on rivals

[@herosshade7887]

I love them, but usually get beat out by awd Integra meta because I’m not the greatest tuner yet. I do enjoy my builds quite a lot though.

[@chrisgarrett6305]

Fwd is great if you can tune it right. I have a fwd tune on a car for off-road and it’s a blast to drive, and actually competitive too.

[@itsdokko2990]

FWD is a blast most of the time, i have a Golf VR6 in B700, currently close to top 1000 on Horizon Mexico circuit (not bragging at all) But you really need to change the way you take the corners, because you're more prone to overwhelm the tires, turning and braking at the same time is a no-no

[@OldElysium]

This is a Longshot. But I've watched all your tuning guide videos, they all are the best for me. I was wondering if you knew anything about game Torque Drift, & could give a good tuning guide for that one. I can't find anything good on it lol.

[@Lionfish5656]

I have a question about tire temperatures: Do you know if the the tire differences between the inner & outer portions of the tire being no more than 20°F applies regardless of Speed? I notice that on my first gear, my tunes often meet the small differences rule, especially for the outside tires that go faster when in a turn. But when I get into higher speeds, the sides of the tires start to significantly differ from one another & in some cases, at least one of the tires flips in temperature, particularly the the one that moves faster in a corner I.E the outer tire in a turn. I cannot seem to find a proper set of camber nor tire pressure for any of my cars. I realize that camber, tire pressure & caster all contribute to tire temperatures. My general tuning rules tend to follow the weight distribution of the car with the springs, damping, braking being promotional to the weight of the car @ that end (EG 40% of weight @ the front means 40% stiffness for springs & damping & 60% of breaking power shifted to the back.) I need some clarification on the tire temps at different speeds. I am wondering if my general rule has flaws or if I am missing something E.G that my differentials are not properly tuned & my wheels are not going @ the appropriate speed when cornering.

[@spud76]

That was a bit mean win there at 14:16, but very earned one 😀

[@Wormweed]

I'm trying to get the Lola #6 Sunoko to go around a track properly for The Trial, but it seems like an impossible task. With RWD it's never able to put the power down fast enough to get a good lap time, and with AWD it understeers so much i need to brake a lot more in corners, so the drivatars rear end me and forces me into the wall.

[@Noreceipts400]

Older cars arent really capable of coping with a lot of power, you generally just have to accept that they arent going to drive as nicely as a modern car. I used the porsche 917 for the trial, rwd, for a few attempts (had a bad team and ai kept knocking me off checkpoints). It wasnt nice to drive, it was basically a power build so with a lot of effort it was actually very quick. Throttle conrtol isnt a simple thing, with a lot of practice youll find that you can actually go a lot faster than you originally thought you could. Also as a side note, with cars like the lola and porsche driving smooth is crucial and weight transfer tends to have more of an impact

[@Wormweed]

@@Noreceipts400 Yeah i gave up and bought a Ferrari P4 instead, was able to tune that decently enough to get 1st place in the trial, but getting any sort of decent rivals time with it is impossible, understeer/not enough turning radius to get around corners fast enough. Which seems to be the issue with most cars i try to get a decent rivals time on, except the koenigsegg ccgt.

[@kspectre21]

HoshiHoki 👋🏻

[@wreckfestonracingchannel3787]

Hey buddy! Grate guide videos they are very helpful!!! You have pleasant tone of voice 👍I do like to tune my own cars in forza it's rewarding when tune works and car handles nicely. It would be awesome if you could add summary of your guide videos in to description as simple text 😊 thanks for your help much appreciated 💯👌‼️

[@Imufur]

can you explain the camber thing? some cars come with front camber more positive than the rear, others the opposite, whats the difference?

[@outlawrc354]

Haha by chance doing the stingray for the upcoming season? good stuff

[@secondone3249]

Good tips

[@MK-yz2pr]

Can I ask you about some tips with launch and RWD S2 car with auto shifting? You said "mash" the throtle, you mean like nod press it full force and hold it, but mash like morse code on steroids? And will it work with auto shifting?

[@legendarykrbx5659]

Awd to me it’s understeers or either drifts when it losses traction but red I can corner more easier but wheel spins as u launch but handles quite good.

[@Bigheadtaki]

Thanks for the help now I’m keeping rwd cars instead of making them awd. My problem is I keep spinning out after exiting a turn any help.

[@TheeGreasyGamer]

RWD cars feel great to race in FH5 as long as you have semi slicks and race springs

[@stevenminary]

Hi, so on the alignment of RWD cars we put 2.2 at the front and 1.5 at the rear?

[@iwantdonjoewonsayhitome4662]

Hola hoki. So just a quick question for rwd different engine places what do I change so back, rear, and middle

[@eurosonly]

Konigseggs are undriveable in rear drive format. All wheel spin and no traction in Fh5 just as in previous games.

[@JRSRLN]

*Throttle control* is key, don't slam the gas all the way up until the 3rd gear especially with the newer koenigsegg models.

[@Latinblood59]

Launch from a higher gear. I find starting in 2nd or 3rd help tremendously with the Koenigseggs. Then quickly shifting into 3rd or 4th shortly after launch.

[@denim8]

just wondering for damping let’s say my rear is sliding out. if i decrease rear stiffness and increase front a bit will that help?

[@Wormweed]

Launches seems to be very important against drivatars, with car 1-3 pulling away from the pack and car 4-7 only acting as blockers and not actually interested in racing at all. I have been using AWD to get an advantage over the terrible drivatar AI compared to FH4, but struggle with bad times in rivals, but i will give RWD another shot. Thanks for the guide, top notch as always.

[@jake-td6sj]

I build the same car the same way and also tuned it. But for some reason it is still not recomended in any race in singleplayer. Maybe you know why?

[@brawler5760]

By upping the aero, do you mean to speed or to cornering?

[@CaptainSpacedOut]

The dead zone for controller is such a problem. Its like playing on keyboard 0-100 no in-between. I'll hit my brakes and suddenly wheels lock up. Meanwhile I'm barely pressing the trigger.

[@HeyitsMartyn]

HELP. I’m working on a RWD build that has some issues I’m slowly ironing out. One BIG problem which I’ve not experienced in any other car is that the car refuses to accelerate when turning even slightly. Coming out of a corner I have to basically be off the steering for it to speed up. Is this just a really bad stability control bug on the individual car or do you have any ideas I can try to tune it out.

[@highllama7496]

8:38 why is it like that? wouldn't you compensate for a lower ride height with a stiffer spring instead of a softer one?

[@gaming2thecore]

Hi I just recently got a new wheel g923 for Xbox and when I play Forza I seem to spin out with every car I drive in the game, is there a way to fix that or do I have to tune every car I drive in order to enjoy the game 😕