Homelander Deserved to Get His Revenge

[@stardomo25]

Time for give him all his flowers top 10 villains in motion picture aot

[@sumbigdumkunt]

Jesus Christ, reading this shit almost gave me an aneurism.

[@d.godummyy]

@@sumbigdumkuntif one misplaced word threw you off that bad @star isn’t the only only one you’re making fun of😂😂

[@kaizenzx_kzx]

Ngl after seeing this scene, I can honestly say wholeheartly that Homelander actually earned one of the top 10 spots of greatest villians in the history of television. I told the community that even by The Boys standards, this season will be the darkest one yet and this episode exceeded the expectations by an landslide. Mans had to literally channel his inner crazy Joker to get one of the most twisted, psychotic laughs I ever heard in television. Definitely on par with Ledger's, Phoenix's and Monaghan's own style. Best episode of the Boys yet. The only time I felt chills and such utter tension with this type of crazy in Tv was when Joker told Batman the real plan of Harvey Dent back in TDK and when Walter did an hit and run on two childkillers then shot one of them in the head with no hesitation. Honestly, The Emmys are really moving the goalpost if they don't give Antony Starr the acknowledgement he deserves for playing Homelander. I for one, from Day 1 hated Homelander and I still stand on that along with the rest of the supes and I hope in the end, Butcher goes full Eren Yeager on them but even with that and with all the shit he's done, I still couldn't help but empathize with him regarding how Vought treated him. Vought is the real enemy of The Boys including the man who stood his ground to an psychopath with powers and lived, Stan Edgar. No wonder he become the man we all know him as becuase they made an monster. Even when he said that not one of the scientists stood up to Vought and said that this is wrong, I think in a sense, even with what they did, he was self-consicous with that though of wanting love and compassion and instead of showing that side of what being human means to a kid no less, instead Vought exploited that weakness to control him to be obedient and him realizing that makes me more of a threat. In other words, let the ultimate crashout event begin..... After this ep, Homelander is forever GOATED as one of the best villains of all time. And I hope I see more of Antony in other works of media as well cuz he is a master of acting.

[@dethdaemon]

@@sumbigdumkunt Username's have never been so accurate

[@sumbigdumkunt]

@@dethdaemon that was a sick burn bro, you roasted me with the username I gave myself, fast paced shit man.

[@bencherbryant-48]

I’m just glad I’m not the only one who noticed he welded the door shut. He didn’t let Barbara live, He entombed her. For the rest of her life, she has to be forced to look at the results that came from the monster she created💯

[@dugnice]

But what doesn't make sense is that Homelander allows Vought to continue operating. One would think that he'd be the first in line to put Vought out of business. If he would tell the public his true origin and how Vought is an evil corporation that needs to be put out of business, he'd get all the love and admiration he's been seeking. Instead he's settling for fear, which is obviously unsatisfying to him, hence his frustration about being "surrounded by sycophants".

[@deadmanhellgaming]

“C’mon cheer him on 😂😂 Marty! Marty! Marty”

[@DJ_Music_Man2]

Y know I thought that part would’ve been funny in a way but holy that was disturbing

[@jaton206]

"Put your fucking back in it Marty!"

[@Ary7861]

He said squirt squirt squirt

[@sbcs2809]

​@@DJ_Music_Man2 dawg, to me it was funny, the way he yelled "squirt, squirt, squirt"😂😂

[@One-ct3xe]

Shucking that little Mushroom 🤭

[@justinmoody9164]

It’s also interesting how he doesn’t just kill them. He does it in a symbolic way that makes it all the more cathartic. With Barbara’s fate being far more horrific. Those Bodies… The memories of seeing him torture them and rip them apart, the hunger/thirst she’ll soon feel and the stench she’ll have endured with those corpses. Hers is one of real agony but as I said the symbolism is amazing. “It’s a room John, it’s not good or bad”, “That’s easy to say from the other side of the door”. He made her eat those words for real and until her last breath, she’ll always remember that her own hubris and oversight caused not only her death but theirs as well.

[@DellikkilleD]

she will be out before the end of business, and she is clearly sociopathic enough to not be affected

[@justinmoody9164]

@@DellikkilleD Lol Where is she going? He lasered the door shut. Also she was clearly traumatized

[@tdotwitz]

@@justinmoody9164 the work crew is clearly going to bust her out of there at some point lol

[@justinmoody9164]

@@tdotwitz You forget they all work for Homelander now. If he forbids them from going down there, that’s what it is. I could be wrong though. I wouldn’t be too surprised if we hear that she was rescued next episode but it looked like he was intending to make it permanent but lasering it shut because he could have just locked it if he was okay with her being rescued.

[@tdotwitz]

@@justinmoody9164 I forget what happened to Despacito’s character. Did Homeland kill him?

[@kzakulenga5138]

This episode genuinely felt like a horror movie The camera's going down, the phone line being dead, his aura the vibe he gave the entire episode and the "DING-DING-Dings" at the end of the episode felt creepy as hell.. I loved this episode i give it a 9 out of a 10 Not bad

[@Blerdcalibur]

the elevator coming down and everyone being scared then the door opens and its Homelander and you realize no one is probably going home today

[@kzakulenga5138]

@@Blerdcalibur "if you win I'll let you off early to see the kids" He was diabolically 🧢

[@Blerdcalibur]

@@kzakulenga5138 knowing damn well no body was leaving 😂😂😂😂 even bought them a fudgie the whale cake for their last day on earth

[@kzakulenga5138]

@@Blerdcalibur cold 😆😆😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@Nicholas_Chen_]

It’s basically a horror movie in itself

[@jonathanfeldheim6554]

S4E4 was Homelander literally losing his humanity, just like he told himself last week to lose the part of him that's human. Mission accomplished.

[@SPACEGAME-tf7dr]

Naaan he’ll bounce back to his humanity he’s a literal train wreck up there he doesn’t know what he wants

[@Colonies_Dev]

He wants that, but you can't. That's the real Point.

[@jonathanfeldheim6554]

@@SPACEGAME-tf7dr Homelander is a literal monster, murdering his mother to birth his way to freedom, instantly killing 3 doctors and a nurse in the room....the Homelander "problem" is the elephant in the room and the best part of the whole show

[@dugnice]

Did he really or was Barbara right when she said that his desire to be loved is too deep at this point? He clearly wants GENUINE love and admiration and even tells this to Starlight when she threatened to expose his sadistic behavior, stating that he prefers to be loved but if that's taken away from him he'd be fine with being feared. He clearly wants his son to love him and is jealous that Ryan seems to love Billy and he is frustrated when people pretend to love and admire him out of fear.

[@jonathanfeldheim6554]

@@dugnice excellent points and good question; he definitely chose to do inhumane things, by committing mass murder to those he didn't even know. The thing Barbara added to me is: the humanity you speak of, was he born with that or did they have to install that psycholigcally? I'd say, you could say, Homelander was literally born a monster, lasering his way out of the womb and killing everyone in the room as a newborn baby. What choice did the humans have but to treat him like they did? I mean, sure, one or two doctors making a joke about it isn't cool, but shouldn't warrant a grisly death sentence. The Homelander problem is the best part of this show and I hope they get back to it because unless Homelander finds Jesus it's his world and we're all just living in it pretending he couldn't just kill us all if he wanted.

[@edbouhl3100]

Homelander probably collapsed the elevator shaft after he left - and leveled everything above ground for good measure. No one is coming to open that door.

[@EmpyreanFrost]

Mans...Homelander did everyone a solid here.

[@meo2360]

Except Marty (badum tss)

[@MusicLover-my6fo]

I'd like to think that if Soldier Boy knew about Homelnader much earlier, he wouldn't have let all those experiments happen.

[@Blerdcalibur]

I do think that if Soldier Boy had raised John it would have been great for the both of them. He'd have been trying to actually be a dad and not like his own father and Homelander would of gotten a loving home

[@SquaficleDude]

@@BlerdcaliburYup, Vought ruined both of them.

[@TariqTheGuy]

@@Blerdcalibur while it would be better and homelander would turn out better Not by too much soldier boy still killed families without much remorse to protect his image and is obsessed with his persona even tho he never did anything during WW2 Homelander would still be an antagonist expect he would be more honorable and methodical

[@fraydizs7302]

Ive NEVER gotten actual anxiety from an onscreen character before. This mf makes me feel like he's about to kill me through the screen. And i aint even do nothin to this man. 😭Antony starr is and incredible actor.

[@prodsage2719]

This episode really made me realize homelander wasn't born like this. Bro was never showed that care or empathy his whole life so it would be hard for him to show care for anyone else

[@user-vh2ye5iy1b]

I knew about the comics so I always felt bad for him

[@vhamer123]

This episode was fucking goated, the amount of frustration and trauma he was letting out when he was torturing the scientists combined with that legendary maniacal laughter he let out as well, must have been euphoric to him.

[@JohnSmile-gm3nl]

he locked Barbara in the bad room for a reason....!

[@KingSlayer_.]

She struck me as an incredibly insufferable hag damn near Yolanda Saldivar levels of hateable. Taunting Homelander of his upbringing and trying to get the last laugh on him because she knew her end was near. What a satisfying fate she got😌❤️ Anthony Starr killed this role💯💯

[@RandomBitterMan]

Imagine the smell in that room there's no windows🦨

[@ThePowat]

Homelander doesn’t even look like a villain anymore, the real villain is vought

[@user-vh2ye5iy1b]

It always has been

[@jennytulls6369]

Sure, Vought is pretty evil, but that doesn't excuse Homelander's actions like, he's still as heinous as they come

[@user-vh2ye5iy1b]

@@jennytulls6369 ya but he’s only like that cuz of vought, he’s not excused but it’s 100% understandable why he is the way he is

[@calebsolonas6085]

I feel like homelander facing his trauma makes him signifigantly more dangerous and terrifying hes metaphorically unteathered to those human emotions but us the audiance know this isnt fully true

[@JohnSmile-gm3nl]

I agree

[@KadenHartley]

​@@JohnSmile-gm3nlno you don't agree, take it back right now

[@thetruekingofwaffles]

What's special about this is that he knows that his human emotions were met to control them. They made it to where he has an attention seeking disorder, and he wasn't crazy for wanting to get rid of his human emotions All the humans in his childhood abused him, and his emotions were his true weakness. It was his familial connection that held him in that room. I wonder if this will actually affect Homelander now that he's confronted the trauma, will he continue to be a monster and completely forsaken his emotions or will he be more functional, will he be able to empathize with Ryan and maybe the doctors and scientists in the Red River Institute, those who have suffered by the hands of Vought in pursuit for knowledge.

[@mysticlunala8020]

​@@KadenHartley LMAO (Laughing My Ass Off)

[@KadenHartley]

@@mysticlunala8020 Thanks buddy for the calcification!!! I wouldn't have figured out what LMAO would have meant if you didn't explain it to me!!,👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@anddrewbrezinski4600]

Did you notice the door was welded shut. He lazered it closed, and she wouldn’t have lasted long with the rotting bodies inside with her.

[@krishurlburt7375]

All they had to do was show him alittle love. Which makes this so tragic

[@tytanwhite2576]

The first actual Superhero thing Homelander did sure there was some messed up parts but Everyone there deserved what they got he made sure nobody else has to go through what he went through in Basement level 6

[@thestoneddog]

This season has made me think maybe they could give him a redemption ark.

[@kvazimedvedababl]

LOL everyone ? there were new people just working there who got nothing to do with torture or Homelander 🤣

[@YungRaze21]

​@@kvazimedvedabablno one there was innocent. They knew it was up. You think Homelander is the only kid they experimented on? Lol

[@randomusername3873]

​@@kvazimedvedababloh I guess they just did it to others

[@bullymaguire4431]

​@@kvazimedvedababl they were also not innocent they experiments on babies .

[@dextergray1670]

Antony is a beast. Before this he was killing on Banshee

[@JohnSmile-gm3nl]

Banshee is awesome

[@zaga.n]

@@JohnSmile-gm3nl a fucking masterpiece

[@Alpha1918]

Antony is the only reason I started watching the boys lol. I watched Banshee before and his performance is peak.

[@zaga.n]

@@Alpha1918 yes banshee was amazing

[@roderick8167]

Seriously Anthony Starr is truly a gem this guy is a tour de force actor, also if y'all are a huge Anthony Starr fan I highly recommend y'all check out his other show that came out a decade ago called Banshee he is amazing in this show too and after watching this show along with The Boys I keep thinking how has this guy not won one Emmy

[@RelatableBlackGuy]

10000% he wouldn’t be this evil if they never did this to him he would just have a bland-ass build your character every movie goes for nowadays

[@dazzlingdexter5060]

Exactly, bought built this monster and when they eventually lose control, they will deal with the consequences of thier action.

[@djdksf1]

Yep. This episode really defined what childhood trauma actually does to people. You become a prisoner of your own shame, agony, and helplessness. All your life is a flat circle that only leads back to the original trauma until it becomes your entire identity. Your coping mechanisms become weapons aimed at yourself. Also, it doesn't go away. Ever. Contrary to the stupid old adage "Time heals all wounds," no it doesn't. In fact, these wounds just get bigger and more unbearable with age. This was obviously not a fun watch for me. 😂

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

@djdksf1 are you doing ok?

[@JDFuckinB]

The shame’s the most annoying part

[@spencerreid2086]

Dam mate this is Depressing.

[@SPACEGAME-tf7dr]

I’d say that for hughie’s mom but homelander is a special case he’s a weaker version of Superman no one is ever going to confront him because they know he’s off the rails and him taking out a few VOUGHT employees that watched him get tortured and experimented on isn’t going to take away his human side it’s temporary bliss he’s still human

[@ZeusAmun-pt9dc]

I completely agree! They act like he has no empathy but look what they have done to children and the supes in general, they are the ones lacking sympathy. The humans that are at vought and in the boys have no sympathy or empathy for the supes. Only soldier boy was a person who volunteered to be experimented on. He was a boy, a teenager, he went to school, made friends, joined the army all before he willingly took part in the experiment. No other except for storm front was a grown adult of sound mind and free will. The other supes are victims. It's like the Jedi, the Jedi themselves are victims and the Jedi order is evil.

[@mildlydazed9608]

On one hand we have two wrongs don't make it right and on the other hand we have several wrongs right a single wrong.

[@Beeyo176]

Funny thing is, while I was sympathetic, I didn't feel like I was on his side. I've seen him be too much of a psychopath at this point to be like "Okay, he has a point." What he went through was brutal, but he is what he is now, and I couldn't lose sight of how monstrous he's become because of it. Still amazing character work. The entire picture is coming into focus on Homelander and Antony Starr is just killing it. I really wish he was in MK1, he could've added a lot of depth to the few lines HL has.

[@brendonw456]

Well yeah, he certainly loses a lot of sympathy *in-scene* when you remember that he specifically mentions he sees "a lot of new faces" there. He mentions that there's just a few that he recognizes. So Homelander actually punishes more people who have done NOTHING to him and probably never even had a clue of what was done to him before he announced it in front of them. So yeah...I really don't see why people are cheering for him here. He's still performing objectively evil acts in this scene. The first 2 punishments? Sure...justified. What he does for Barbara's? Way, WAAAAAAAY past justifiable.

[@caidenFarrow]

​​@@brendonw456Ngl that second one was brutal though

[@Ningamer-bo7ej]

​@@brendonw456well we still have to remember that no one in that lab is good I mean they most have experimented on other kids. Did you forget the people in gev v forest and people who stormfront kept in that hospital.

[@bullymaguire4431]

The first time I laughed watching this series😂. 4th episode has shown the one of the best and satisfying revenge

[@cynicalmemester1694]

​@@brendonw456The new employees were there to experiment on kids. They're not innocent in the slightest

[@Flametasticeedits]

This episode connects with everyone that's experienced childhood trauma and it hurts the most when it comes from our parents or legal guardians. @ the age of 10 I was adopted by my Grandparents who instead of giving me love and affection they gave me hell. I was beat and yelled at every day for simple things such as the way I dressed and the way I would comb my hair. I was forced to work on the weekend and I was beaten if I did mistakes during work. At the age of 11 I was hugging my grandpa when he pushed me hard and told me to F off that I'm no longer a kid and to start acting like a man. At school my teachers knew something was wrong with me but I had to lie on psychological tests to determine if I was a normal child. My grandpa had warned me not to speak up on how he's raising me. So I was terrified of him. Today I'm 33 and I don't have a relationship with him and don't plan on seeing him ever again. Years later I confessed to my gf and mom that i felt like a horrible person because when i was still a kid i would often think about Ki*li*g both of my grandparents in their sleep. But they told me that it was okay because i didn't act on those evil thoughts

[@squirrelsinjacket1804]

They all knew they were done for when Homelander arrived with a cake.

[@sethvaldez4029]

You can say some one was afraid to do this work but they had multiple opportunities to leave the job from the start and I think she was lieing about saying he could have left they had some kind of protocol to keep him there they chose the manipulate route because a child can't tell what it is and as such they made the monster they wanted

[@DJ_Music_Man2]

This episode put everyone that said that this season is bad to shame. This episode was amazing. I love how Homelander was in that facility the whole episode it shows the scientists feelings of this terror going on for what seems like hours I love it.

[@kgpspyguy]

Dude… This season IS bad. It’s absolute trash. ONE decent episode doesn’t make up for the failure of all the other writing.

[@user-11Il10I1]

The first three episodes are bad BAD. The boring unnecessary Frenchie back story is just bad writing. Episode 4 is the best Homelander episode of all 4 seasons.

[@TariqTheGuy]

Really? People didn’t like this episode? Butcher and Homelander was incredibly enjoyable to watch during this episode

[@DJ_Music_Man2]

@@kgpspyguy I don’t think so tho

[@DJ_Music_Man2]

@@user-11Il10I1 I don’t agree👍🏻

[@dazedandconfused5711]

I mean a lot of the people there were new hires who had done nothing to him, lol. Just scientists hired by Vought to work on Temp V. Marty, Frank, and Barbara all deserved it- but the new guys? Hell, the SECURITY GUARDS? Innocent. Homelander still killed them, though.

[@LedZedd]

Knowingly enabling Chil Abuse is not Innocent. Legit sad to know so-called people like you really think this way.

[@StefanWinchester]

I was in total agreement with homelander this episode.

[@Electricsheep86]

This is why it's important to take the high ground. Forgiveness is a VERY powerful thing.

[@DennisGr]

yeah at this point i'm also convinced the acting job done here is beyond phenomenal. there is other shit about the show i don't even like that much, but the high degree of violence and the acting for homelander in particular makes it always worth my time.

[@DeetotheDubs]

6:19 "Your last moments are going to be in this room, watching the dead bodies of the people that you basically allowed to do monstrous s..." because of the monster it created. I'm wondering if that smile on the elevator was him slowly bypassing that mental programming and could lead him taking out Stan.

[@Sjono]

Homelander kills the scientists who made his childhood hell in an attempt to rid himself of his humanity and assert his godhood, but learns that he will always be hungry for love no matter how much he tries to squash it, and leaves just as human as he was when he entered. If not, as un-human as he can ever be.

[@rosspeterson3274]

This episode is all about the past transgressions and regrets of certain characters coming back to haunt them. In every case, we empathize with the main, protagonist characters.... except in Homelander's situation, where we finally identify with the most ruthless villain in the show. It's brilliant writing, and outstanding acting on Starr's part.

[@barrytooth4306]

I think it speaks volumes on how horrible these people are if I can whole heartedly side with an absolute monster like homelander here

[@Wally_8]

best episode of the series honestly

[@MrRiddler6]

The thing about what happened in this episode is whats going to change. Homelander was a murderous sociopath before, and he's going to be a murderous sociopath after. nothing is going to change.

[@revenj9327]

yeah but homelander has no problem w that if anything he is trying to condition himself to not feel anything after killing these people even though they did him and probably other people wrong. Thats part of the reason he gets pissed off when they call him "John" cuz when they were torturing him it was never the human kid John it was the product of The Homelander. Only thing about this episode is that killing his abusers still does not erase his past, does not erase his human side and the fact he will give it all up for real love at a moments notice

[@bullymaguire4431]

There is a big difference now he doesn't need love and appreciation from others he is no longer a celebrity he is a wrathful God . Now he killed his weak human part now butcher can not manipulate and blackmail him

[@Causality01]

Among the scientists, there were some young people, who were obviously not part of Jhon's childhood. Regardless, he killed these people anyway.

[@thekaelixchamber]

"Come on! Squirt! Squirt! Squirt!"

[@AstralOunita]

Ironic when homelander says to himself that he needs to transcend his humanity the thing that embodies that line is when he is going up while he is in the elevator while having blood on his clothing

[@edwardsanchez3708]

In reality, I think those doctors would have shot themselves up with V a long time ago after seeing the results. Homelander did steal the show though and he is the one I love to hate

[@phantomdaze2599]

It would be almost certain death tho. So not worth it.

[@Ironcorgi2]

There probably were more failures than successes. We’ve seen v in the diabolical cartoon and other works like gen v grant powers that are terrible or just kill them outright in agonizing ways

[@errorx_x1063]

@@Ironcorgi2 The entire thing reminds me of the game, you get a super power but the next comment has to name a negative side effect for that power lol

[@kingpotato7183]

You can die if you're not compatible. Thats one of the main reasons they're creating temp V. Everybody can take temp V. But the side effects is that it ruins your brain. So they're still working the kinks

[@Neuroticneurologist234-cw6mn]

It also reminds me of Cersei when made the Mountain torture the religious person

[@vaux144]

The bad room is a metaphor and Homelander neurotically stuffed and mangled all his trauma and monsters in it and locked it shut as well as burying it, since it was already six levels deep unserground.

[@theusernameicoodfind]

He’s been my favorite character in the show since the start. Neuman is so good this season too.

[@brendonw456]

Well, realistically, she probably won't survive in that room for longer than 2 or 3 days, especially at her age. She'll die of thirst *waaaay* before she dies of hunger. This is assuming an air supply isn't an issue in there, which I can't imagine that it is

[@error-4269]

There is blood to there is flesh there....

[@brendonw456]

@@error-4269 Well...yeah...she'd definitely be able to survive if she resorted to...that. It's not impossible, but the odds of her resorting to eating and drinking what is available are pretty much a coin flip.

[@error-4269]

@@brendonw456 I would do it hell I have. But isn't even worth it? Is it just prolonging the inevitable? Are they actually going to notice all those people gone and come back down there to rescue her? Another coin.

[@pierluigiadreani2159]

Realistically somebody will come look for her way before that.

[@brendonw456]

@@error-4269 K. Well that's not a thing someone who isn't a total psychopath would admit so freely. Most accounts of people who have done that for survival have shown they were traumatized from it. Regardless of whether you did or didn't, it doesn't really say anything about whether or not she would do it. You aren't Barbara. This isn't a one size fits all thing. As for prolonging the inevitable? Well...is it though? Barbara obviously has people she reports to. It's not unreasonable that they might come investigate why this place went radio silent suddenly. Of course, there's a lot of variables there too. It's just a possibility that is quite plausible.

[@rufustherat1794]

He’s honestly carrying this show on his back at this point

[@silashurd3597]

He’s been doing that exactly since day one

[@wesker1739]

Bro…. I don’t know wether to root for him, or be against the man cause he’s a narcissist villain. He’s someone I’m 50/50 with but the people deserved the karma. I was on homelander’s side on this one.

[@kairasendo1175]

Honestly, this is one of the two times I’ve been on his side, and the other was in the season 3 finale when everyone was fighting Soldier Boy to protect Ryan.

[@lilvargyt9964]

homelander is so peak

[@michaelholt8590]

Homelander is a lesson all should take heed. Monsters are made, not born.

[@alienscientist8893]

Yeah man he's a fkg great actor,, this character is awesome.. Best thing for ages..

[@TK-un1pu]

I said this and someone literally said that I was fetishizing violence…the entire show is about violence. 🥴

[@jeffreyjohnson7359]

I really hope Homelander gets what's coming to him in the ending.

[@MetalSolidCrisis]

What's crazy to me is that it took THIS long for Homelander to do this. After everything we've seen him do in the show, it blew my mind that he hadn't done this yet 😮

[@Blerdcalibur]

There were people keeping him in check before Stan, Madelyn and His Public Persona as a hero to be loved. All of those guardrails are gone now but he still felt shackled by them. So he attacked the source of his pain

[@AAurum-yy7rv]

I know the main reason for him not getting accolades for his performance is bc a lot of these groups that award actors and crews have still not adapted to streaming services very well it might also be a weird biased that they’ve always had against “action” or sci-fi/superhero shows even tho this show is clearly focused on way more than that just look at logan they only had a single nominee in the Oscar’s

[@LedZedd]

Logan is leagues above The Boys and always will be, not even close.

[@jamminfreedom2413]

Yep he got back at them Notsee's aka Vought scientists, good for him!

[@extreme_3d97]

Honestly Homelander wasn't the villain in this scene it was them they shouldn't had treated him bad and put him threw torture so they got what was coming at them

[@bystander5278]

Hands down my favorite scene in the show

[@jqhaiul]

i felt happy for homelander in this episode not gonna lie

[@mikerryan85]

This scene reminded me more of Cersei leaving that nun that tortured her, to be kept alive and tortured in the dungeons by The Mountain.

[@MrChupacabra555]

I'm with you on Anthony Starr deserves an Emmy at least for his performance (I felt the same about Vincent D'Onofrio as 'Kingpin') However: As cathartic as it might feel to see the torturers get their 'due', in the end Homelander is a monster, just as bad as the ones he is punishing. The true thing to want is for them to somehow be brought to Justice, which yes, probably couldn't be done any other way (but he could have still did horrible things to them while keeping them alive,to suffer for their crimes).

[@shoolcreates1999]

To be fair, he did say some new faces, so some of them paid for their predecessors wrong doings. Granted they almost certainly would have participated had they been employed at that time 😂😂

[@mr_0n10n5]

S4 E4 was the day Homelander killed the rest of his humanity (4 commonly means death in Japanese and Chinese)

[@Yatukih_001]

This scene was horrifying. He wanted them dead because he is a narcissist and they were a competition and a hindrance. So yes this was revenge because of how he was treated. Thanksvfor the video.]

[@Joybuzzard]

My question, which Homelander should have asked, is 'why are they still there? Why is this lab being funded? There are no kids there, he's been gone for over 30 years but there's only one height chart drawn on the wall, are these people being paid to do nothing all day just because the company forgot they existed? Also, the Fudgie The Whale cake was the perfect touch.

[@muwrii]

He killed EVERYONE in that room. The problem is that everyone except Marty, Barbara and Frank, were new employees that did nothing wrong to him. As much as I can sympathize with his decision in killing those two, it's insane to say that he's justified in brutally murdering those 20-30 years old scientists. He did "kill all of his demons", but he also killed a dozen (probably) inocent people. Also, there's most likely a rescue team coming to investigate why all the conections in this lab are down, so I don't think Barbara is going to die. Playing devil's advocate here, as much as Barbara did overwatch all those experiments on young Homelander, in the entire Vought hierarchy and system, she's probably one of the least to be held accountable. It really is a paradox. She had her orders from her bosses (orders that she couldn't really avoid or say no to, since I'd guess that the experimentation on homelander was very closely watched by the entire company), yet she is the one that takes the most blame from the community and also is the one to get trapped in that room. I don't want to say that these people are completely without blame, but we need to see the larger picture, instead of just trowing rocks in rage. (that ending scene in the elevator was fucking nightmare fuel tho)

[@vensheaalara]

"a whole adult", as opposed to an adult in parts? Interesting phrase

[@jaegar2786]

Deserve doesn’t mean should. But I enjoyed this nevertheless! My favorite part of this series is Homelanders descent to madness! With every step he takes down that way, he only assures his downfall!

[@Luckiest34]

Good way to say it. I couldn't put it into words. This is the only comment that could put what I thought into words.

[@JohnSmile-gm3nl]

Yeah that’s why he called it the bad room right

[@danielt.9154]

Considering the current state of the Oscar Awards, I think the Oscar's has lost its Prestige to where I dont care if my favorite Movie/Show/Actor receives an Award from Them anymore. That being said Anthony definitely deserves High Praise and a more Prestigious Award than the Oscar's.

[@thepunisherxxx6804]

I want to see Homelander redeem himself, make some big sacrifice to save everyone or something. He told himself to shed his humanity, he killed all those evil people, now everyone expects him to destroy everything which I guess is the obvious choice, but I think Homelander doesn't really know what he wants for the most part. He was forced on a certain path, and finding out how him wanting love was part of that, I kind of hope he see's he's doing the same thing with Ryan and maybe that makes him change and choose for himself. He does seem to care about his son. That probably won't happen, Homelander represents a lot in and out of the show that I doubt he'd be redeemed, but IDK. Its easy to see why Homelander turned into the person he was. Huie forgave A-Train, maybe forgiveness and redemption will be a part of it? I hope the end is Butcher and Homelander squaring off, all the sudden they find out Homelanders son and other kids were captured by the Government to be force controlled or killed and Buther and Homelander team up to save him. This also sparks something in Homelander seeing other kids suffer like he did, and maybe he sacrifices himself at the end and everyone turns out to love him after all.

[@StarForce99]

He's just broken 💔

[@DShawnPaytonOffiicial]

Excellent video, good sir!

[@sinovuyobudaza7167]

I did not feel sorry for those men who abused HL. HOWEVER, what did the new guys do?😅 Imagine starting a new job the day HL decides to get revenge. HL should have at least let the new guys go.😂 That's all.

[@Chaos_God_of_Fate]

YUP! Spot on!

[@yukimurasanada5209]

would Homelander be more of an Anti-Hero? he saves people and does Hero things while doing darker things on the side or behind the scenes, this was dark but definitely him getting justice for torture as a child, I'm honestly shocked he didn't become like Zod as soon as he was old enough and take over the world or just destroy as much as possible as fast as possible

[@charliem1525]

Anakin killing the sand people

[@nathanphillips7787]

He has pretty much made the Plutonian impossible to be made into a live action character. Yeah, nobody feels bad for the Vought workers Homelander took out. It reminds me of Movie Bob's Magneto was right, as nobody cries over the Nazis Magneto killed.

[@inkchariot6147]

Homelander is just a more brutal Frankenstein's monster. Play God, face consequences beyond mortal understanding.

[@bullymaguire4431]

That's why I love villains more than heros . The way he took revenge was satisfying AF not like superheroes: eye for an eye make world blind 😂

[@ClintStone-t9m]

Ah, look at that little pfp. Did your husband give it to you?

[@bullymaguire4431]

@@ClintStone-t9m goona cry

[@ClintStone-t9m]

@@bullymaguire4431 No, please don't say that! You know how much I sacrificed?

[@OhBlivEUn]

There's no justice in revenge... nothing really to gain at all

[@kukuricapica]

Imagine having your top supersoldier research facility without any kind of checks. I'm just a simple engineer but we call those fault measures. For example if you cut the powerline, Surveilance and the internet the system would automaticaly dispatch fire brigade/police department. If he didnt burry her somehow whe he got out they would just pick Barbara up. For the sake of story it makes perfect sense though to leave her there to rot.

[@Depressing_joe]

i had the same question for the actor who plays rick grimes, it is a crime both homelander and rick grimes actors aint nominated for emmy

[@nikosspyris]

I mean, what the fuck were they supposed to do, stand up to Vought and say "nah". Sure, but they are probably getting foreiting life at that point. I get that Homelander is justified in being furious at them, but I am not sure how much of a choice they really had. None of us would put Homelander, who back then was just a test subject showing promise above us and our family.

[@johng9465]

I really hope he doesn’t end up the GoT cast were he gets thrown in under produced, or in Lena Healy’s case, under marketed movies. I really hope he ends up in something like a Christopher Nolan movie as a bad guy.

[@LalaDepala_00]

I always hate the "just forgive people ❤❤❤❤" Why is it that so many people are free to ruin lives, but their victims have to forgive them? It is not fair.

[@Eldritch-1]

Victims are always told to be the "better person" yet the victimizers just run around free with little consequence. screw that.

[@vadepierce4542]

Is… it normal to be put in 6 different forms of therapy?… by your mother…

[@Ironcorgi2]

So… most of the people in that room were new, so he murdered some scientists that we don’t know had done anything wrong

[@sorenvc]

Dude its a deep underground science lab to torture children. Its like the Manhunt 2 story where psychologists want to create a super human weapon for U.S basically the same thing lol

[@oess855]

Exactly, but he ignores to mention that

[@seneca1932]

Ever watch Clerks? They had the same kind of debate about blowing up the Death Star in Jedi. Did the workers building it deserve to die? They were innocent too, weren’t they? No. They weren’t. They knew who they were working for, what they were building, what it would be used for, and what the last one did to Alderaan. They knew and they still picked up their tools. Same with these scientists. They knew what they were hired to do and what that would entail, and rather than say “no, I won’t be a party to this,” they checked their ethics at the door and showed up to work. They sacrificed their integrity for a paycheck.

[@Ironcorgi2]

That’s kind of different. Homelander could have let them out at any time he just wanted to kill them

[@klapacjuszanimomon8501]

Homelander literally didn't deserve anything xD

[@Rain87166]

My question is, why did he wait so many years to do it 😂

[@landongray8687]

Am I the only one who has felt sympathy towards homelander ever since his childhood was explained in season 1?

[@dannyyoroi1955]

It was catharsis in the EXTREME. I don’t condone it but I understand WHY

[@shendrix10]

Don't give Homelander too much credit. Many of his victims were way too young to have had a hand in his abuse. (I.E. the security guard and the young lab techs.)

[@meeeeperbob]

I was somehow rooting for homelander in ep 4

[@TVMAN1997]

When you try to play god This is what happens

[@oess855]

So you're gonna ignore the fact that he also murdered innocent scientists who had nothing to do with him? Not everyone that was there was around when homelander was a kid being tortured. Homelander as usual doesn't give two sh*ts about colateral and just murders everybody.

[@Eldritch-1]

If you're working for Vought...youre not " innocent"

[@FishAnvil]

It really is a shame that the showrunners forgot they were telling a story, opting instead to cram as many political jabs as possible before people lose interest. Kimiko kills some Shining Light dudes, fights her sister, doesn’t talk to her, we don't learn anything new about them, and the plot doesn’t progress. Kimiko kills some Shining Light dudes, fights her sister, doesn’t talk to her, we don't learn anything new about them, and the plot doesn’t progress. Why is Homelander's complete rectifying backstory relegated to FUCKIN B-PLOT BELOW THAT? It is genuinely such a shame Kimiko and Frenchie's characters have been given the narrative equivalent treatment of a 15 car highway pileup.