Honda Accord Oil Consumption Burn Issue Solved

Honda Accord (and Honda CRV) with Earth Dreams engine has engine oil burning / oil consumption issue which typically starts after 60K+ miles. Honda has used this engine in Accord, CR-V, Civic and may be more and engine oil burn issue also exists in these vehicles This video shows simple fix that has almost resolved this issue.
Most vehicle owners become aware of the engine burning oil issue either when they check oil level, or from their oil change shop. I was shocked to discover the issue because my other (older) Honda / Acura vehicles never had this issue.. there was zero oil consumption in them.
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PARTS NEEDED:
* Genuine Honda PCV Valve Assembly
Honda Part Number 17130-5A2-A01
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TOOLS & SUPPLIES:
* Ratchet with 10 mm socket & extension
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TIME NEEDED:
* under 10 mins
STEP BY STEP PROCESS:
* Locate the Valve Assembly (red color)
* Open the 10mm bolt that holds the assembly to engine
* Remove the old PCV valve assembly
* Insert the new PCV valve and tighten the bolt
RESULTS - After 25K miles:
Replacing the PCV valve immediately fixed the oil burn issue for the most part. The car works awesome with minimal oil consumption and best mpg even 25K miles after the PCV valve replacement ! Based on my experience here are my two cents to handle this issue:
a) Replace the PCV valve
b) Change engine oil 3K-4K miles interval
c) If currently on 7K mile schedule for oil & filter change at a shop, do mid-cycle (3.5K change) at home with just drain-fill of engine oil.
d) Check oil level every 1K mile
e) Plan to replace PCV valve again in about 50K miles
There is no permanent engine burning oil fix and the points mentioned above are not a permanent solution because the real issue is with Honda's 'Earth Dreams' engine which is in this model of Accord, 2017 CRV and other Honda vehicles. The car burning oil repair cost can be high and there is a class action lawsuit on Honda for the defective engine ... just google it with these key words and you will find it. Doing above is a work around and temporary solution until Honda provides a permanent / long term fix.
OIL LEAK AROUND ENGINE:
The oil stain outside engine is due to leaking valve cover gasket. Blocked (bad) PCV valve leads to higher pressure in the engine which causes leak in valve cover gasket. This leaking gasket along with other changes in the car were tell tale signs that sadly I didn't catch early enough :( These signs included: lower mpg, funky smell from exhaust, carbon deposit in exhaust pipe, low acceleration, and then the oil burning .
After replacing the PCV valve the oil burn issue was almost gone. Considering that car was at 95K miles I had the spark plugs replaced and valves adjusted, which automatically includes valve cover gasket replacement so I go more 'value' vs just getting gasket replaced.
Had it done at Honda dealer for $399 + tax in January. It is usually slow season for their service dept so I shopped around and negotiated on price. I could have saved some money by doing the work myself but I was busy at the time and potential savings weren't as substantial so I went with getting it done at the dealer.
** UPDATE, MARCH 2023 **
The Accord is now at approx 140,000 miles or about 45K miles after I made this video, and I have changed the PCV valve again! Vehicle had become sluggish, miles per gallon dropped, and engine oil consumption increased to a quart of oil gone after 2000 miles - these are all the things that happened at about 90K miles so understood that PCV valve is likely going bad so I replaced it. I didn't want to wait for the engine's valve cover gasket to start leaking again. A less than $30 expense is far better than $500 later! lol. Huge improvement in performance after I installed the new PCV valve.
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#HondaOilBurnIssue #HondaOilConsumption #PCVvalve

[@mikemaiocco2538]

My 1999 Accord was using a lot of oil. I replaced the PCV valve and The Grommet for under $10 and it fixed it. Couldn't believe it. Thanks a lot

[@FlyBeee]

This is awesome! Thanks for sharing your success story! Congratulations :)

[@jackreacher6680]

Replacing the PCV valve on my Honda Accord 2009 4 cylinder, completely fixed my oil usage - like 4 litres a month. Now I'm normal and the car has much better performance. My mechanic told me the engine was worn out.

[@FlyBeee]

This is really awesome result! So glad the issue is resolved. Have you shared with the mechanic you have resolved the issue yourself? :)

[@ptv16]

I had a 2010 Honda Accord V6 bought new. The dealer recommended not changing the oil until 15% on the maintenance minder..about 7500 miles. After the first oil change, the engine burned 1qt oil every 1000 miles…which the dealer stated was “normal”. I put 150,000 miles on that car until 2023 with 140 quarts (total) added at gas fill-ups. I can’t believe I tolerated that BS for over 13 years.! The car was ultimately totaled in an accident.

[@FlyBeee]

I think the dealer just parrots what the Honda corporate tells them to. None of my other older Honda vehicles burn oil... just this 2013! Not sure why Honda calls this normal. Glad you no longer have this issue to deal with.

[@emilsmith7159]

You're the best! Thanks. This video helped to correctly diagnose and fix my 2013 Honda accord.

[@FlyBeee]

You are welcome! It makes me happy to know my video helped :) Best wishes

[@johnregal5098]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH for your video. I have a 2016 Accord with 6sp manual and it has been taking about 3/4 to a quart of oil between 5,000 mile oil changes the past 15,000 miles. I will definitely be changing out the PCV valve ASAP.

[@FlyBeee]

You are welcome. Makes me happy to know my video helped. Not sure if you had the chance to read the narrative /description of the video so would add that I found best results by doing oil changes at 3500 miles - I no longer follow maintenance minder - and the oil change problem has not returned even after 30K miles. Just my 2 cents.

[@j8thgen479]

Supposed to change ur oil every 3-5k anyways

[@j8thgen479]

Stop waiting 5-8k miles to change oil do it every 3k and it will stop consuming

[@FlyBeee]

@@j8thgen479 Yep, thats what I do now :)

[@zariah8942]

I have a 2013 Accord. It definitely helps. Also replaced rubber gasket around engine block.

[@FlyBeee]

Yep, I replaced the rubber gasket of my 2013 Accord, which as you can see in video is leaking - the result of bad PCV valve! Thanks for bringing up this point. Best regards

[@maverick6442]

Thanks ,running into the same issue, will try.

[@FlyBeee]

If you get a chance, please review description of this video where I have more details, 'after' results, and suggestions. Best wishes.

[@ritmoysonpepe]

Excelent video thanks

[@FlyBeee]

You are welcome. Thanks for taking the time to provide feedback! :)

[@user-sp5bn6ye8y]

It's the low pressure oil rings on the pistons. That's the issue with Honda and Toyota engines in this age range. Toyota honoured their repairs for this issue. Honda didn't (and still haven't). Toyota engines 2015 onwards (generally) don't have the issue any longer

[@FlyBeee]

Thank you for the details. Yep, the issue is with the engine. The PCV valve and frequent oil changes are just temporary fixes to keep the vehicle going ... because Honda has not provided repairs which are much costly.

[@trentalexander4961]

Question, do you think a higher viscosity would help with this ?

[@davids2933]

Thank you I'll give it a try.

[@FlyBeee]

Sounds good. If you get a chance please let me know the outcome. Thanks!

[@bigsez73]

Changing the PCV valve does not work. This is an issue with the piston oil rings and these engines need to be recalled. Everyone please file a complaint with the NHTSA for this

[@marc4199]

Thank you.

[@FlyBeee]

You are welcome. I hope this video helped. Let me know if you have any other Qs

[@vadimgaisinski330]

I have Honda accord 2015 sport, had oil consumption burn issues, stopped going to dealer for oil changes , started use oil Castrol edge 0-w20 no more issues.

[@FlyBeee]

Awesome! Using a better oil definitely helps too. How often do you change the oil?

[@ulyssesramos4831]

I dont think thats even the right oil..

[@FlyBeee]

@@ulyssesramos4831 my 2013 4 cylinder Accord takes 0w20 oil, if you have a v6 or a different year/trim level it would likely take a different oil, and the specs are in owners manual and written on Oil Cap on the engine.

[@whatsamazing1531]

Omg you changed it and it gained oil! Wow

[@FlyBeee]

LOL.. yes, the car now has oil :)

[@jeremypearson6852]

Since I switched out my PCV valve it seems to be fine. However, I’m going to be monitoring the oil level on a regular basis. The car is a 2016 but has less than 60k miles on it.

[@FlyBeee]

This is awesome news. When you get a chance, please review description of this video where I have posted updates on how my Accord is doing since the PCV valve change, and my leanings and suggestions. Best wishes.

[@MrLevi136]

Thank you for the great effort. Do you know how the valve cover integrated PCV system works in this particularly shaped cover?

[@FlyBeee]

Much appreciated, the starter is still working well. I do not know the answer to the Q on valve cover integrated PCV system.

[@henrylee2964]

I found if the honda is made in Japan there are not engine problems .. When the same vehicle is made in the USA the quality is lower. WE are not the only ones having issues with the on the Honda earth dream engines made in the USA by union workers.

[@FlyBeee]

Thanks for sharing. I have heard that too that Japan made vehicles have better quality.

[@notasolution]

Toyotas are the same way, it does make a huge difference, the Japanese models hold up wayyyy better than the American or Canadian models. Make sure your Honda or Toyota has a J for the first letter of the vin!!

[@FlyBeee]

@@notasolution This is good info. Thanks for sharing

[@concernedcitizen780]

I have a 2012 2.4 L that has 153k Never had an oil leak. Always ran synthetic. Currently use Quaker state 0w-20 ultimate durability oil. Also use either royal purple or mobile 1 oil filter. Car is never beaten and I almost never do the “ Italian tune up”.

[@FlyBeee]

The 2012 Accord v4 is an awesome car without this oil burning issue and I am glad you got awesome use out of yours. The 2008 - 2012 Accord v6 isn't so lucky and has this oil burn issue. Honda settled that class action lawsuit in 2013 but looks like they didn't resolve the issue because 2013-2017 Accord v4 has the issue .. In description of this video I have listed the ways one can minimize or live with the issue. But it is frustrating for sure.

[@justmyself1000]

Not sure if you are aware.....the ONLY oil that comes in 0W-20 is synthetic. There is no Non-synthetic 0W-20.

[@FlyBeee]

Thank you. Yes, I am aware. These day I am testing different brands of oil to see which one works best. Have you found a best oil for Accords?

[@justmyself1000]

@@FlyBeee As crazy as this sounds....I was using Mobil 1 then switched to Walmart supertec and less oil loss with the Walmart brand! At my Honda dealership, I was advised by a mechanic yesterday to use Lucas Oil stabilizer for low viscosity oil and/or switch to 5W-20. He said to NOT go over the "20" or second number. Havn't tried these yet. I do have a catch can, but I don't catch the same amount as I lose. I do catch about 1/4 of a qt. between oil changes. I tried the PCV valve replacement and it did not make a difference. There was nothing wrong with the one I took out. One can test a PCV valve.

[@FlyBeee]

It is impressive that you are trying so many things to address this oil burn issue! How much oil is your Accord losing? A few months ago I spent time reading every word written on the bottles of different oil brands (of 0w-20 oil)... was surprised that Mobil 1 oil it says for turbo motors (those in newer Accord)! lol Right now I have Quaker state 0w-20 in my vehicle and it is meh... lol. Have you tried Castrol oil? It is next on my list to try. If nothing works I may just stick with Honda brand oil.

[@somevideoguy99]

Lucky you. For my 14 Accord, oil consumption happened when it was brand new. But dealer didn't do anything because it wasn't burning much. They said it needs to burn 1 qt in 1000mi. Mine burns 1 qt in 2k-3k miles. I tried PCV valve change but that didn't help at all.

[@FlyBeee]

Thanks so much for the feedback. Is yours at a stable pace of oil consumption or did it change with miles?

[@ygbodybuilder3023]

So what end up happening

[@AsifShaikh1]

So did you sell it or still have the car

[@FlyBeee]

@@AsifShaikh1 I still have the car and plan to keep it for a while. Plus it gives me an opportunity to report on the result of the maintenance I do. If you have any Qs please ask away!

[@FlyBeee]

Yep, that was way too much oil consumption! After changing PCV valve the oil consumption slowed down significantly and Car mpg also improved back to 31 average city/hwy driving. I am happy with the outcome so far.

[@chevy8588]

I have heared that it depends on the oil you use and I am talking about the brand.it has to be full synthetic 0-20

[@FlyBeee]

This engine requires 0-20 full synthetic oil and thats what I've used so far until the problem showed up. Part of the issue is probably that I understood full synthetic oils to last 10K miles and this car's oil was changed at 7K so all was 'supposed' to be good. However, others have commented that they got better performances and no issues w/ oil consumption by changing oil much earlier, at under 5K mile interval. Perhaps there is some truth to whats been said elsewhere that in recent years car companies stretched their vehicle maintenance minder intervals to artificially show a lower cost of ownership and disregarded the fact it ends up damaging their vehicles. I now change full synthetic oil at about 4K miles.

[@AznTony360]

If the pcv valve fixed the oil consumption issue but car still runs poorly with lower mpg. It’s probably because all the oil being burned is stuck around the invtake valves. Clean em out with crc valve cleaner. I notice with my 9th gen it needs it once every other oil change. Even tho I have an oil catch can. Car runs smoother and idles smoother. Still getting 33-34mpg

[@FlyBeee]

Good advice. Thank you

[@MrRedHotChiliMan]

How is the CRC applied?

[@danr1920]

I've been using about one quart every 10,000 miles. 150,000 miles in car. Runs and great MPG. Just replaced the PVC valve. I'll know in a few months if that was the problem.

[@FlyBeee]

Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It is very helpful. Best wishes!

[@luismarty1685]

You should change the oil more frequently. No more the every 5,000 miles.

[@avtuvy]

Six months ago my 2017 Accord started to consume large amounts of oil, about a quart every 300 miles, and that's after not consuming oil since I purchased it from the dealer in 2017. Since I bought the car I did all scheduled maintenance at the dealer and the car was a a few weeks before the engine warranty expired. I took the car to the dealer and he said that the last time that the oil was changed at the dealership they did not tighten the oil filter and it leaked, the dealer did an oil change and the car does not consume oil anymore. Very strange since there were never oil spots on my driveway under the car

[@FlyBeee]

It is good news that your car does not lose/consume oil any more! A quart every 300 miles is waay too much. How did you figure out it was losing oil at such a high rate?

[@avtuvy]

@@FlyBeee I check the oil once every week or two and it never consumed oil, I made the connection between the oil consumption only after I took the car to the dealer and then realized that a few weeks earlier the oil was changed at the same dealership

[@Itching2bfree]

Same with mine. No leak spots on the ground anywhere.

[@sakaribearden4356]

Is this a part that has to be changed out with regular maintenance over a certain period of time? Or are the new PCV valves made differently than the one the car was manufactured with? I just don't see how the same type of PCV valve would solve the problem.

[@FlyBeee]

Replacement of PCV valve is not a regular maintenance on vehicles. But on this vehicle the valve gets blocked with oil therefore a new PCV valve helps solves the issue, along with regular oil changes.

[@monirmualla]

Is this issue happening with the 2.4 L newer crvs like 2020 also or only the 1.5 turbo ??

[@FlyBeee]

The 2020 model CRV and Accord are supposed to be free of this oil burn issue which affected many older models. There are a few class-action lawsuits on Honda working their way through the legal system. Search for it or review CarComplaintsDOTcom. Many Honda owners were caught off-guard with this issue because we didn't know something like this could happen to a Honda which is known for reliability (I have had many Honda vehicles and this is the only one with oil burn issue) As long as you know how to handle the oil burn issue you are good to go. The description of this video has details of how I managed to minimize and live with the issue. I hope this helps.

[@lji2000]

Hi, how has the oil loss been holding up? Changing just the PCV out on mine didn't seem to help much. I did have the valve cover gasket leaking similar to yours (if not a bit worse) and noticed this was bad when the exterior of the oil dipstick holder was covered with dirt/grime. Have replaced the valve cover gasket and this seems to have really helped. Only 1.5k miles now after the valve cover gasket change, but the oil levels have been holding up well.

[@FlyBeee]

Hi, as of today the car has 134K miles or in other words I have driven the car 40K miles since replacing the PCV valve and the oil leak is holding up pretty good! I lose about half a quart every 3500 miles which is not too bad. As I explained in narrative of the video, the key is to change oil every 3500 miles. I did one today and almost 4 quarts came out (car takes about 4.5 qts). How many miles are on your vehicle? how much oil was it consuming before you replaced the PCV valve and changed valve cover gasket. Have you changed the spark plugs?

[@samwang7210]

@@FlyBeee 所以，你更換了PCV閥和氣門墊圈，吃機油情況獲得改善，請問你是用哪個型號的機油，我目前用HONDA 0W-20W SP ,5000km燃燒了約1.5公升機油

[@allenpickett5307]

Your PCV valve was good the old one that you pulled out if it rattles it's good

[@FlyBeee]

Thanks

[@johnathanjohnson3213]

Allen Pickett when do you hear the rattle? My gasket is leaking and I don’t know if it’s the PCV valve or rubber gasket.

[@FlyBeee]

@@johnathanjohnson3213 A bad PCV valve will make the gasket leak therefore changing the gasket alone may not address the reason why gasket is leaking.

[@realtorjeffpimentel]

PCV valves need replacement every 5-7 years

[@michaeltrager4381]

Will the oil level change if the engine is cold vs after a run with a normal warmup to operating temperature?

[@FlyBeee]

Yes the oil level would change. If the engine was running then park car on flat surface, turn off engine and wait 5 mins for oil to settle before checking oil level.

[@jeramybearamy8539]

Great video. Did you notice any sort of noise with the pressure build up before replacing the PCV valve? Mine is whining a bit and I have the similar oil markings as you. Lost my first quart of oil last month.

[@FlyBeee]

Yeah the engine sound had changed. I enjoy driving w/ windows rolled down and noticed the change in sound. One of the other big tell was the exhaust smell changed because of oil that was burning in engine. In my case once the oil consumption issue started it escalated fast. Would recommend to handle the issue at your first opportunity. Good luck

[@Dabeer5]

Jeramy Taylor is engine oil supposed to be at the top point to be perfect ??

[@FlyBeee]

@@Dabeer5 Yes, a 'full' engine oil is supposed to be at the top point of the dip stick.

[@michaelcontreras1978]

Yes I have also noticed some whining, honestly it sounds like it’s coming from the back seat when I’m in the driver seat and I idle my car. But I have been having the same issue I filled it up to the center of the dots (not knowing it has to be at the top) and it’s only been 4 days and it’s already below the first. My sounds like outer space or background noise, did yours sound like that too @jeramy bearamy

[@menghic531]

I had the same issue with the head gasket. Also, I noticed that when I had the mechanic fill the crank case with more than the 4.25 quarts of oil, I didn't need to add oil as often. I have also had the PCV replaced.

[@FlyBeee]

How many miles are your car. At what miles did you have the PCV valve replaced?

[@obxmay]

My '13 2.4L 6MT Accord has burned/lost oil since I bought it new. Oil change interval is 5K miles. I have to add some oil after about 1,500 miles. Car runs great, no CEL, 136K miles on the clock. I replace the PCV valve every 30K miles. Eh, it's a burner. Good thing modern oils don't trash the cat - which could be a pricey PITA.

[@FlyBeee]

Thanks for the details. It is a bummer that modern engines consume oil when older ones didn't used to at all. My 2013 Accord is still going well with manageable oil consumption. Wish it did not consume oil at all.

[@stocktrader8391]

All my Hondas odyssey accords have used oil. I am used to it!

[@RealJoshBinder]

tried this but unfortunately it didn't affect the oil burning issue on my 16' accord sport

[@FlyBeee]

At what internal do you change the engine oil?

[@RealJoshBinder]

@@FlyBeee I usually change it somewhere between 5k and 8k depending on Honda's maintenance minder. I usually have to add between 1.5-2.5 quarts before I change it to maintain oil level on the dipstick

[@r3dhorse]

Look for a leak. Valve cover gaskets go bad on these.

[@jesusmezaarroyo6306]

I am sorry to hear that bro, I had a 2008 honda accord with the 2.4L with only 58k and I never couldn't stop the oil burning, fu...ing guys of the dealer told me that it was normal, accords in the 90s could reach the 250k with a minimal oil burning, today's is a shame on this brand to have an almost brand new cars burning oil, to make short, I had to sale my Honda with only 68k miles because of this problem, today I am driving a v6 dodge charger, is not a gas saver as the accord but at least I haven't had any issue or problem with it, good luck on your car.

[@realtorjeffpimentel]

Add some marvel mystery oil to crankcase and drive for a few weeks

[@JohnS-il1dr]

The more usual case is piston rings that allow oil to pull into the cylinders because it's no longer tight. To re hone the cylinders and install new rings would cost 2500 usd.

[@FlyBeee]

Yep, the problem is with this Earth Dreams engine that Honda has not acknowledged, likely due to cost to fix piston rings. The excessive oil makes PCV valve go bad so replacing PCV valve is a low cost relief but not a definite fix to engine issue.

[@masontee8335]

Try $5000 USD

[@Reflectiveness]

Changing the PCV valve is a good preventative measure, so change every three to five years. Doing so may prevent costly leaks. If you're driving a 1.5L supercharged engine, change the oil every 3 to 5 thousand miles with full synthetic. Otherwise change your 2.4L non-supercharged engine oil every 5 to 7 thousand miles, or, every six months, whichever comes first. And finally: If you've a CVT transmission, change the fluid every 30 thousand miles. Even if the shop says they dont normally do it. And insists they use Honda's trany fluid only. Shops say they don't normally change transmission fluid for two reasons. 1) Vehicles without CVT aren't as dependent on tight change intervals. 2) Most people neglect preventative maintenance. Final note: Increasing the change frequency of either motor oil and transmission fluid can only be viewed as a good thing.

[@FlyBeee]

This is awesome advice. Thank you for sharing it, will sure help many! Best wishes.

[@eriks8382]

Bro if you’re good with 60k intervals 3x drain and refill no need to be consistently be doing it every 30k miles. Is it good to be doing it ever 20k? 10k? How about 5k cvt intervals? Just because it’s more frequent doesn’t make it smarter, useful and especially not practical

[@FlyBeee]

@@eriks8382 It looks like you are referencing Transmission fluid change interval at 30K or 60K interval, and not the Engine oil burn issue. If I understood correctly ten on the topic of transmission fluid change, Honda says to 'replace' transmission fluid every 30K miles (non CVT) and 60K miles (CVT) interval. If replacing the fluid takes 3 drain and fills at 30K miles, then if we do 1-drain and fill every 10K miles it would achieve the same result and with the addnl benefit that new fluid won't 'shock' the transmission. Honda has had a long history of transmission problems so I lean towards being more cautious on transmission maintenance.

[@RecklessLilJ]

Got 46mpg on my 2015 lx with cruise control on. I have a intake, muffler delete and a throttle body spacer too. Also I hit vtec alot and I never had a oil dilution problem. My accord now has 170000 miles

[@FlyBeee]

This is awesome performance and results! Thanks for sharing the details. Is your LX an Accord, and with manual transmission or automatic?

[@natehiger410]

what is your speed when you get 46mpg?

[@RecklessLilJ]

@@FlyBeee automatic

[@RecklessLilJ]

@@natehiger410 you have to set your cruise control

[@natehiger410]

@@RecklessLilJ i know, but no way you can get that map at 75

[@DrichMade]

Does engine oil burn faster when the car has more miles on it? I drive a lot that's why and I checked my dipstick its has under the first dot.

[@FlyBeee]

Yes, there is some truth to it. In most cases the oil burn issue starts after 50K miles - for my car it started after 90K miles. If the issue is not addressed it gets worse and causes more damage to vehicle that gets expensive to fix. If you get a chance, review the narrative I have in the video where I suggest a few things you can do to address the oil burn issue. Best of luck

[@tdmap2241]

The correct way to check oil level on dip stick: 1 - pull dip stick out and wipe it clean. 2 - insert the dip stick back in 3 - pull the dip stick out again and check the oil level

[@FlyBeee]

Perfect! thank you!

[@swaggerjacker1482]

TD Map and the proper way to watch a video is to have the volume up so you can hear what he says. He clearly says at 1:07 that he could wipe off the dipstick and reinsert and check again but it’s not going to have more oil on it above where it is now. So that clearly shows he knows how to properly check oil level on a dipstick. You got it dipstick?

[@FlyBeee]

@@swaggerjacker1482 I really appreciate your comment :)

[@elmecanico4943]

Honda and Toyota make the best internal combustion engines in the world. However, if you failed to change the oil at the specified intervals or put the wrong kind of oil you will run the risk of damaging the seals in the valve seats and piston rings such as the main oil control ring. Even if your car takes 0w20 fully synthetic it doesn't mean that you will run the car past 5k miles or worse past 7 or 10k. That is a no no. Failure to change the oil on time will make the internal seals brittle and hard to the point where they fail to work as they should. Unless you have a severe oil leak in the oil pan or rear main seal, if you dont put fresh, clean oil don't be surprised you also start burning oil as your valve guide seals are done. I have seen this, I'm a mechanic.

[@FlyBeee]

Thank you so much for the details! All of what you said is correct but sadly I didn't know about it and trusted Honda Owner's manual that says oil change interval is up to 10K miles :( Universe taught me. Hopefully others who view this video would expand on the narrative /description of this video to see my recommendation to change the 0w-20 synthetic oil more frequently and not have this issue. I appreciate you taking the time to weigh in and provide your expert advice. Best wishes!

[@mralbert6588]

He must have been told that in old school (pre-GDI engines) a faulty PCV VALVE will force the pressure in another direction. Out seals and possibly the piston oil Ring's? What's your opinion?

[@elmecanico4943]

@@mralbert6588 A faulty PCV valve will cause oil to be burned as it gets stuck. They tend to fail on hondas. This is like a maintenance item.

[@mralbert6588]

@@elmecanico4943 if you're right, after I change mine on my 2015 Accord CVT 4cycl, she might not lose oil mysteriously with only 124 easy Miles?

[@mralbert6588]

@@elmecanico4943 preventative maintenance

[@roryjoseph7645]

My 2014 Honda Accord was consuming a lot of oil. I changed the pcv valve and that stopped my excessive oil consumption. Unfortunately, after a number of months, it is now doing the same thing again.. damn.. :(

[@FlyBeee]

What is your oil change interval. After replacing PCV valve I now change engine oil every 3500 miles and the oil burn issue has not returned even after 30K miles. I hope this info helps. Best wishes

[@roryjoseph7645]

@@FlyBeee To change my oil, I go by the car computer. When the percentage says it's time to change oil, I do.. :)

[@FlyBeee]

@@roryjoseph7645 Please look into oil change interval and issues people have had. I used to get my Accord's oil changed as noted by Maintenance Minder, which typically averaged every 7500 miles. After the vehicle developed oil burn issue I found that oil change should've been 3500 miles, and the long 7500 mile interval contributed to oil burn problem. I now change oil 3500 to 4K miles and there are no issues.

[@MadFreddayus]

it's always worth while to do some thinking for yourself to help yourself. changing oil every 7 to 10k miles is how Honda gets you to buy a new car

[@anthonysuhadolnik948]

I can't believe people are changing at 7,000 miles their oil every 3000 miles

[@faisalrasheed646]

I’m having the same issue with the oil seeping out, just like that. Did you do anything about the leaks? If so what? I need help please lmk?

[@FlyBeee]

I had the valve cover gasket replaced. The description of the video has a fairly long narrative about what I did and my suggestions to anyone having oil burn issue with this Accord. I have driven about 40K miles after making this video and the am comfortable with the outcome. Anyways, check out the details when you get a chance and let me know if you have any questions.

[@samwang7210]

@@FlyBeee 請問是更換氣門墊圈嗎

[@billybob629]

I changed the PCV valve in my 2013 Accord and engine still used a quart every 1000mi, I finally solved the issue that Honda refused to fix under warranty, I traded the crappy Accord on a new Toyota 4R TRD, problem solved

[@FlyBeee]

LOL, this was so funny the way you wrote it! Glad this headache is resolved... and Toyota 4R TRD is probably much more fun to drive for sure! Best wishes

[@RodT87]

I changed my pcv valve on my 2008. It didnt solve the problem. Its a poor engine design and the use of 5w 20.

[@FlyBeee]

If you still have the Accord, how is the issue now?

[@RodT87]

@@FlyBeee Same. I dump two quarts of oil in every 1300 miles.

[@FlyBeee]

@@RodT87 that is a lot! What oil do you use, and have you tried different oil brands, and to change at shorter interval vs. what Honda recommends?

[@krystrans10]

0w20 oil Not 5w20 you suppose to put there.

[@MrUGA2010]

I have the same problem with our 16 CRV; the engine burns oil since day one, no leaks in our case; what’s the oil brand you use for an oil change; I’ve been using Mobil1 from the day one and I’m leaning to Penzoil or Valvoline from now; I think they have better sealants and detergents than Mobile1 so I’ll be experimenting with them from now on; our CRV bought new and now with 58k miles

[@FlyBeee]

You are taking best care of your CRV's engine by using full synthetic oil. Please know that the problem or solution is not with brand of oil but that Honda's 'Earth Dreams' engine has an oil consumption problem. My Accord and your CRV have this Earth Dreams engine ... so you are seeing the problem also. There is a class action lawsuit on Honda for the defective engine in CRV. ... just google it with these key words and you will find it. Honda is denying it. What to do in the meantime? Change PCV valve every 40K miles, Change oil frequently - like every 3K miles which ensures you don't run the engine dry. If you do the 7K oil & filter change at a shop, do the mid-cycle (3K interval) at home with just drain-fill of engine oil. Then the next oil & filter at a shop. Takes no more than 5-10 mins. I use Quaker State oil. Any would do as long as it is the one for your vehicle. Best of luck.

[@MrUGA2010]

Fly Bee that class action is regarding 1.5l I think; I’ve been using Mobile1 from the day one and noticed oil consumption but it is at 1q for 5k miles up to this point so when I change it along with the filter oil is at low mark; so yes I add that 1q between the changes so in my book 5k oil change with filter should be enough; And I plan to switch brands just for an experiment;

[@tousshong9438]

Bro! I recommend switch to SuperTech oil from Wal-Mart...they are great value and provide excellent protection as other name brand. Go watch oil comparison on KZbin here and see for yourself. I have been using them for 20 years and I never experience any issue with all my cars/trucks. Try it cause they're only $15 for 5 Qtz

[@tvviewer4500]

Question: have you ever thought of cleaning the intake manifold. I am thinking that is the problem with my car. It seems they went out of their way to make it very difficult to remove this manifold.

[@FlyBeee]

I have thought about it as addnl improvement but just have not had a compelling reason or need to do it. Is there anything in particular going on in your car that you are looking to address by cleaning the intake manifold?

[@tvviewer4500]

@@FlyBeee air isn't getting to the engine. I had a 2010 equinox that was throwing lots of cods and i couldn't figure it out, neither could any mechanic. I took off the intake and there was a milimeter or two layer of build up going all the way into the engine. I cleaned it up and the car ran like a dream. Also cleared the PCV system and really the car came back to life. Less than 2 hours to make that happen all codes went away - car drives like a dream. The 2013 honda accord has the intake at the back of the engine and has fuel lines that need to be disconnected and you have to take this whole valve cover assembly with all these weird wires to get to it. It seems like they trap it on purpose. I think this is a game auto makers are playing to get you to spend money. It looks like a 3 or 4 hour job just to get at the intake on the 2013 accord. I can't even find a video of someone doing it which leads me to believe there is something difficult about it.

[@rainishmaredia-uj4zp]

In my 2016 accord I saw oil stains near engine cover, I notice the stain was less few months ago but now the leak has spread over little. What is causing to leak through the seals?

[@FlyBeee]

In my case it was the bad PCV valve that caused valve cover gasket to leak. I explained this in the description of the video. All good after replacing both and I have driven 45K miles since then! Your situation may be the same or different, it is hard to say without looking at the vehicle. Please review the details in video description and see if this is what you are experiencing.

[@rainishmaredia-uj4zp]

@@FlyBeee sounds good, thanks for replying!

[@nando323]

Mine recently started leaking from the same area. I suspect it to be the valve cover gasket. I took it to a mechanic and he confirmed. I'll be replacing mine soon. Look up KZbin videos. If you have some minimal experience with engines you should be able to do it yourself. Good Luck

[@danielc.3725]

Nice, 👍🏻, but you should have Put a little - CLEAN OIL on the "Rubber gaskets " So they don't - FAIL, I'm talking about the - PCV - VALVE it self, the 2 - oil seals, Top & Bottom....

[@FlyBeee]

Thank you, really appreciate the details. Have you noticed the differences if it is installed with and without oil on the gasket?

[@Striker50_]

Changed both PCV Valve, and Valve Cover gasket. Still burning oil. Made 3 videos on it

[@justines]

Mine is doing burning oil. Changed the head cover gasket, still burning oil. Next I'm going to be checking the PCV. So basically I'm going through the steps to figure it out.

[@Striker50_]

@@justines Yup, most likely it's going to be the piston rings, or correlated to it. No biggie, just top off every 1k miles, and be proactive with maintenance. Oil burning is more common than we think so not super scary

[@FlyBeee]

older cars didn't burn oil but the new ones do... just crazy that dealers call it normal! I think they key is to do oil changes more often at or around 3K miles and to keep eye on oil level.

[@SuperKING102]

@@Striker50_try switching to a higher grade oil. Don’t use Mobil 1 . Try Valvoline Extended Protection that works 😊

[@mannybudhu3905]

Put marvel mystery oil in the engine swap one quart of oil for that it'll solve the oil burning.

[@joshuadiaz4182]

My 08 accord with 117k miles is burning oil way to fast, the auto body saying my only options are to repair the pistons or rings for about 2k. Or swap it for a new engine for the same price . Please tell me there’s a cheaper way

[@FlyBeee]

Oh! that's a lot of money! :( Oil burn issue causes issues inside engine that get worse over time if not addressed, bad piston rings is one. How did your service shop determine the issue is with piston rings only? $2K is a lot of money (at least for me) and would at least consider other / cheaper options before spending $2K on repairs... things like replace spark plugs if not already done at 100K miles, replace PCV valve, use better oil, use Liqui Molly fuel system cleaner (amzn.to/3v4rzxS) and engine cleaner. Recently I used the Liqui Molly and was impressed with results after just 500 miles. You know your car's history, but I don't, so decide whichever option works best for you and you are comfortable with. Spending $2K to fix a 14 yr old car may not be cost effective so another option is to replace it. 2023 Accord is going to be fully redesigned which means 2012 Accord will be sold at discount this year to clear up space at dealer lots before end of year. Honda has annual clearance sale in July so perhaps it would be better to replace the car. Consider this angle before spending $2K. I hope this helps. Best regards

[@BOOTROS80]

OMG I WAS JUST TOLD THAT TODAY FOR MY 2006 HONDA ACCORD! I ALREADY HAD MY PCV VALVE CHANGED, IT STILL BURNED. THEY THEN SAY IT'S MY OIL PAN LEAKING. I GOT THA FIXED. STILL HAPPENING AND NOW TODAY THEY SAY WHAT YOU JUST SAID. I TAKE GREAT CARE OF MY CAR AND I'M THE ORIGINAL OWNER. EVERYTHING IS PRETTY MUCH REPAIRED AND NEW ON IT. SMH THIS IS RIDICULOUS! OH! AND THEY SAID I NEED MY POWER STEERING RACK REPLACED WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT $3200.00!!

[@FlyBeee]

@@BOOTROS80 The 2006 - 2007 model year is my favorite Accord! i like em better than the 2013 Accord in pretty much everything! lol The repair estimate for your 06 Accord is waay too much - at least for me. After owning many Hondas I have learned their useful like is 15 years and 185K miles, whichever comes first. beyond these points the Honda becomes too expensive to maintain! I made the mistake twice of trying to fix my old (and fully paid) Honda/Acura but it was not a good outcome because new issues developed too frequently. And money I put into my old car didn't increase it resale value by much. My suggestion would be to use liqui molly or other options to keep the car going for now and look into buying a different vehicle soon. Many auto companies have sale around 4th of July or summer clearance right after it so use this time to look for what you may want to get. Used car market is hot right now so you can decent money for your Accord. The 2006 - 2007 Accord is my fav so makes me sad to recommend you to sell it but it is a machine that has run out of its useful life and it is time to find a replacement. Best wishes.

[@thericepatch9494]

On the 08+ v6 model look into the vcm muzzler, vcm causes considerable oil consumption and under a load it can eventually cause burnt valves. You won't notice much if any change in gas mileage.

[@FlyBeee]

@@thericepatch9494 Thank you

[@tsgt2007]

I purchased a used 17 Accord LX with a CVT transmission in March 2020 and the last owner only drove 12,201miles. After reading about these complaints I started to use Amsoil PI and upper cylinder gas additive to help keep the engine and the injectors clean and hopefully stop this from happening to me. As of know I only drove the car 1800 miles and I haven’t noticed anything with low oil levels, knock on wood. I will definitely use Amsoil for the engine and transmission as well.

[@FlyBeee]

I would recommend to use Honda HCF-2 transmission fluid vs. Amsoil. Honda makes its own transmissions and these have a history of issues (read: failures) however you can't go wrong with honda's own fluid. If you use Amsoil or others and have issues with Transmission, Honda will likely put it squarely on you.

[@tsgt2007]

Fly Bee According to this Honda can’t do that. www.amsoil.com/about/guarantee/

[@FlyBeee]

Thanks for sharing the link! We are all trying to make the best choices and everyone decides based on the info they have. My thought process is that Amsoil wants to sell its products and would want to assure its customers. We are missing the imp info that how well Amsoil's assurances have worked when customers had real issues with Honda transmissions. What I know is that Accord owners manual says to use Honda parts only, and also read online reviews (on CarCompaintsDOTcom) from people who've had transmission issues / failures on Honda vehicles that they did not have an easy time to get Honda to pay even a portion of repair / replacement for vehicles maintained at Honda dealers only with OEM parts/fluids. These customers reported that they felt Honda was looking to find reasons to get out from taking responsibility of their failed transmission. I am guessing Honda is likely going to find non Honda transmission fluid an easy reason to deny liability. Price difference between Amsoil and Honda fluid is negligible so why risk issues down the road? and Why give Honda an easy reason to deny liability if you end up with transmission issues. ... What I've shared here is just my thinking only. I know that everyone is free to decide for themselves what they would like and feel comfortable with.

[@tsgt2007]

Fly Bee I completely understand.

[@tousshong9438]

@@FlyBeeeBee, I agree about using Honda ATF on the CVT cuz they have specific fluids for the CVT tranny and not other brands. For oil that don't matter which kind you used. Heck, I use SuperTech oil on my 2015 Accord and still have not experience any engine frailer. ...Save me $$ as well.

[@iftekeruddin7116]

I have 2014 exl with 70k on it. After watching this I checked my dip stick, just little bit low on the top hole mark. Is it suppose to be normal? Drove 2500 miles since oil change. Always service in dealer put full synthetic last about 10k but I change it around 6-7k ish, how can you tell is super low ? Engine oil light suppose to come out ?

[@FlyBeee]

You are taking best care of your Accord by using full synthetic oil and it seems to be doing well and does not have oil consumption issue at least at this time. The low oil warning light will come on only when oil level is dangerously low and your engine is at risk or complete failure. Please know that the problem or solution is not with oil or whether it is changed at the dealership. The real problem is the Honda's 'Earth Dreams' engine which is in this model of Accord. There is a class action lawsuit on Honda for the defective engine ... just google it with these key words and you will find it. Honda is denying it. Please be happy that you found this video and are now aware of the engine issue. My Accord now has about 113K miles and here are my two cents to handle this issue. Change engine oil 3K-4K miles which ensures you don't run the engine dry. If you do one oil & filter change at Honda dealer, do the mid-cycle (3K interval) at home with just drain-fill of engine oil .. takes no more than 5-10 mins.. Check oil level every 1K mile. Please also see my video on CVT transmission fluid change for this Accord. If you haven't been changing the fluid then please get on the 15K fluid change cycle. Read the detailed description in my CVT fluid change video. Best of luck.

[@RecklessLilJ]

Has to be up to the second mark if it's below the first mark you need to add some but don't go over the second mark because to much oil is worse

[@edubb2491]

@@RecklessLilJ how much oil is lost from top mark to bottom..iam 3,500 miles into my oil change..and iam down right at the low mark i haVe a 2016 honda accord ty

[@hondafan2226]

Is it necessary to add some oil around the two rings of the PCV valve before installing it? It looks like you just installed the valve without adding any oil on it and it worked out fine. Thanks.

[@FlyBeee]

It is not necessary to lubricate rubber ring/seals before installing the new PCV valve. I didn't and it still fit snug, and in the 30K miles since I installed it I have not had issues.

[@hondafan2226]

@Fly Bee Thanks! Would you recommend the 2013 Accord as a reliable daily driver car?

[@FlyBeee]

@@hondafan2226 Yes, I would recommend it as a reliable daily driver - which is how I use my Accord. My Accord now has almost 124K miles and I still get 32 mpg from daily driving on lowest grade fuel so the cost of operation is very low. Just change oil every 3500 miles, change transmission fluid every 10K miles, and air filters every 15K miles ... all simple maintenance items you can do at home with basic tools and save money vs. taking to service shop. If you get a chance please review my other videos on this Accord and it will give you an idea of what to expect in terms of maintenance. If there are any other Qs please ask. Best of luck.

[@TheNuclearBolton]

@@FlyBeee can you tell me what mpg you get driving at 60mph?

[@FlyBeee]

@@TheNuclearBolton I get 38-40 mpg from driving 60-65 mph. From city /street driving I get 24-25 mph and my combined average is +/- 32 mph.

[@williamadams2240]

So u replaced with same type of pcv or a different type of pcv valve?

[@FlyBeee]

Yes, I replaced with the same type of PCV valve for this Accord, Honda part # 17130-5A2-A01, about $30 on Amazon. amzn.to/2EJhxKO When you get a chance please review the narrative description where I have listed results and recommendations. I hope it helps. Best wishes!

[@SuperKING102]

I would say switch to a higher quality oil. I’ve seen success using Valovine extended Protection 0w-20 .

[@FlyBeee]

good suggestion! thank you.

[@luismarty1685]

How often do you change the engine oil every 5k miles or every 10k miles?

[@FlyBeee]

I now change engine oil every 3500 miles. The regular oil change internal on my car is 7000 miles so I do a mid-cycle drain & fill at home. So far so good at about 133K miles and very little to no engine oil burn anymore.

[@luismarty1685]

@@FlyBeee 👍

[@joyfullife8751]

My 2015 Honda accord same problem,You want me to change PCV that’s all I can do any suggestions brother

[@FlyBeee]

If not already done then please review the description of the video where I suggest a few more items to consider and which worked well for me. My Accord now has about 137K miles and I am happy with the results. Let me know if you have Qs. Thanks

[@user-ur3mb5ij6m]

How can I check the PVS valve do not confirm it works well

[@FlyBeee]

when you remove the PCV valve check to see if it is clogged with oil. If it is then replace it. Thanks and best wishes

[@unknown-jx5yt]

how do you pull up that trip A history screen? i have a 2017 Accord Sport SE and cant seem to find it?

[@FlyBeee]

At count 0.30 of this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpbQaX2HmbCbd9k, pause it - locate the 'cruise' button on right section of steering wheel. Now locate a similar button on the left section of the steering wheel. When the Car is start, press this button a few times to toggle the options on the display screen of car until you get to the screen that shows for Trip-A.

[@cesarcastillo8496]

I got a 2008 accord with the same problem is this model has the pcv valve?

[@FlyBeee]

To my knowledge the 08 Accord has PCV valve. You can call your local Honda parts dept to inquire about PCV part for your vehicle to confirm. Best wishes

[@jesusmezaarroyo6306]

Hi brother, I had the same car with the same problem it was burning oil at the rate of 1 quart per month, the dealer told me that it was normal, don't waste your time, if your body 's car is in good shape sale it, that's what did after trying everything to fix it. Just my opinion, but good luck.

[@jonschlegel2961]

@@jesusmezaarroyo6306you probably didn’t tell the buyer if the consumption issue either

[@jesusmezaarroyo6306]

@@jonschlegel2961 actually, I did, because I sold it to the same person that I bought it, I trade for a BMW, and it was amazing until I had to service it, to make it short now I am driving a dodge charger GT v6, is not efficient as the Asians but I haven't had any problem with it, is very quiet and specifically no oil burning.

[@jonschlegel2961]

@@jesusmezaarroyo6306 well good on ya then. I personally don’t think oil burning is a deal breaker. Hondas and acuras burn oil and still last over 200K easy Glad you’re having a good experience with the new car

[@hondafan2226]

Did the PCV valve replacement stop the consumption even till today? Do you need to add oil between oil changes?

[@FlyBeee]

PCV valve replacement did not completely stop oil consumption BUT it did a wonderful job to minimize oil consumption to where I am comfortable with it even even 30,000 miles after the PCV valve replacement. I now do oil change after 3500 miles and car does need oil refilled / topped-off before that.

[@hondafan2226]

Has your Accord been pretty reliable engine-wise (any check engine lights, leaks, noises) since you have owned it besides this oil issue?

[@FlyBeee]

@@hondafan2226 Yes, the accord has been very reliable, and by that I mean no unexpected failures, leaks or check engine light, starts as expected and never left me stranded, and never failed emissions insspection. I get 33 MPG from everyday driving on lowest fuel grade so it has been very economical as well. But it needs to be maintained based on Honda's old maintenance schedule = Engine oil changed every 3500 miles, one Transmission fluid drain-&-fill every 15K miles, brake fluid change 30K miles or 3 yrs. Only new items is this PCV valve change ($35) + be ready to change starter around 60K miles ($60-used part). If you have had Honda's then these maintenance items are nothing new for you. But if your expectation is that car won't need any maintenance and you run it like that then the car would leave you stranded one day. Please review my playlist 'Accord 2013 - 2017' and it should give you an idea of maintenance this car needed up until 126K. Questions are welcome!

[@2393034]

​@@FlyBeee my 2014 honda accord sport 115k miles pretty much did all that. I changed the PVC, transmission, and engine oil normally, air filters, spark plugs, and the dang starter which is a tough one for me. Then like you said maybe because burn oil is deposited in the catalytic converters and got a p0420 code so I followed Scotty Kilmer's video and pour Lacquer Thinner like a gallon and 1 quart and the code is gone for now. Now I have an overheating issue, Im not sure if is caused by the lacquer thinner but then I checked that I was low on coolant so added coolant but overheating issue continues. Now Im stuck on debating whether it is the head gasket problem which I haven't bought a kit to check yet but my honda is the same issue with oil leaking out like yours in the video so I probably have to change the Valve Cover Gasket. I don't have white smoke that I know of yet and I just changed the engine oil and no sign of mixed coolant with the engine oil. I was debating to pour bars leak to the radiator since I see a small crack of the left bottom of the radiator but not sure if I have a head gasket problem. If I do have a head gasket problem then if I use the bars leak probably will seize my engine. I'm in a dilemma right now. If you can shine me some lights that would be greatly appreciated. Thank you sir!

[@nyrider8396]

My 13 accord has the same problem. It has 145k now, I change oil every 5k, but I add a quart at 2.5k

[@Missledub009]

Valve cover is leaking also do your oil change more frequently

[@jeramybearamy8539]

Missledub009 does the valve cover need to be replaced?

[@FlyBeee]

Yes, bad PCV valve caused the valve cover gasket to leak. Got it replaced.

[@FlyBeee]

@@jeramybearamy8539 Yes, it needed to be replaced.

[@PabloEscobar-gv1cj]

I change every 3500

[@81quiroz]

There is a site I go to that has up grade parts for k motors only and the pcv valve I will be getting is aluminum and will be getting a catch can for my sport cause I seen the inside of the k motors and man nope

[@FlyBeee]

If you have installed the catch-can, do you see improvement in vehicle performance?

[@gerardo510707]

When you hit 100k adjust the valves and replace that head cover gasket

[@FlyBeee]

Thank you. Yep, all done at 100K .. now almost 120K ! :)

[@edubb2491]

How do you get 400 plus miles to a tank..do you drive highway mostly..ty..great vid!! I have a 16 accord sport 34k and get 330 to a tank..but thats all city tho!😢

[@FlyBeee]

Thank you! Good question: I drive in city only but its a big city and my daily drive is a combination of street (35mph + freeway 65 mph) driving on constant speed. Also I have a 4 cylinder accord - if that matters. I hope this helps. On a side note, if you have 34K miles please checkout my video on changing transmission fluid on the accord. Honda issued a TSB that the accord degrades transmission oil fast. So please don't rely on your maintenance minder on your vehicle. good luck

[@edubb2491]

@@FlyBeee IAM on it with the cvt change by watchen your vid ty..i changed it at 31k..will do every 25k? Ty again..iam gonna try n get 400 plus miles to a tank of gas...you don't let the gas light come on before you fill? Sorry..jus tryen to figure out how u got so 400 plus miles to a tank of gas😂 i live in a small town with quite a bit of stop lights for a small town...maybe that's it..do u stop at stop lights alot?

[@FlyBeee]

@@edubb2491 Awesome! Thumbs up for changing the transmission fluid! I would recommend to change at 15K or less. Personally, my accord becomes sluggish after 12K miles and after 5K on engine oil and I have to press on more gas to make it go. Overall, MPG is a mix of different factors: Clean engine air filter (A dirty filter makes the vehicle use more gas), Fresh Transmission fluid and engine oil makes the accord fly on just a touch of accelerator and gives high mpg. I refill fuel/gas when the light comes on, don't go over 70 mph on freeways because the higher the RPM the more gas you burn. Also the summer mix of gas gives higher mpg vs winter. Right now in winter I am getting only 390-410 miles on tank of gas , some of the lower mpg is also because I got new set of tires with better traction. Anyhow, I hope this info helps. Thanks so much for the feedback!

[@edubb2491]

@@FlyBeee thank you..it does help..so u mean i should change out cvt..every 15k from here on out? Or 15k to get all cvt fluid out..do you know what i mean?

[@edubb2491]

@@FlyBeee also..do you use you eco button?

[@DavidSanchez-ib4ft]

The pcv is not the root cause of oil consumption as all engines consume oil.the root problem is the same as it is on the 2008 model( I have an 08 and a 16 Accord), it's piston rings getting caked with carbon from prolonged oil usage. Yes the manufacturer says you can go 10,000 miles per oil change, but that doesn't mean you should. 2 things to do to preserve your engine performance/mpg. 1- Change your oil by 7,000(even the book says to not let it go past the 20% oil life interval. 2- put a catch can on the PCV line(and CCV line if really serious about it) to stop oil from building up in the intake runners/intake valves. GDI motors do not have the cleaning ability on the intake side of the motor that MPI do. There's no fuel cleaning the intake side while running since the fuel injects directly into the cylinder. I have. 2012 sonata that was full of carbon build up at 60,xxx miles. Put a catch can at the PCV line after having the head walnut blasted, and now at 130xxx it's still clean. Also gained MPG back since the flow is less restrictive after removing the carbon build up.

[@FlyBeee]

Thanks for the detailed reply and suggestions. do you know of a good video on how to install a catch can on the PCV line?

[@DavidSanchez-ib4ft]

@@FlyBeee this is the closest I could find to our model Accord. Catch cans are very simple to put on. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJfIgHyGZ6Z1eMU

[@DavidSanchez-ib4ft]

Sorry. I copied the wrong link. Here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nIWrpZmXpqlph8k

[@FlyBeee]

@@DavidSanchez-ib4ft Awesome! Thank you so much! :)

[@mralbert6588]

Can you suggest the part name MFG and steps to install? I have a 2015 4cyl Accord

[@kennylavay8492]

The replacement valve for that engine is 32.00 dollars plus tax. and it is the original honda replacement valve. do not use after market. if you can find one.

[@FlyBeee]

Yep, totally agreed! OEM

[@noroar3258]

same engine as 2015-16 crv ? k24W

[@FlyBeee]

Probably right, and the reason for the same issues of oil consumption in both vehicles. sigh! good catch though. i appreciate the feedback.

[@henrylee2964]

I got another solution to stop the oil burning. After changing the PVC valve, i changed the transmission fluid with genuine Honda transmission fluid after 60 K miles and the oil burning stopped. I am getting MPG=37 on the freeway. Try this solution. there is nothing wrong with the engine. the dealer wanted to sell me a new engine for 10K. My 2014 4Cyl accord isn't worth that much.

[@FlyBeee]

Thanks for sharing your experience and positive outcome from changing the transmission fluid! My experience is a bit different. In my accord I put new transmission fluid every 15K miles because of long history of Honda transmission issues, and even then my Accord developed the engine oil issue. In my case the new PCV valve and replacing engine oil every 3500 miles helped resolved the issue.

[@r3dhorse]

That shouldn't have any effect on oil consumption.

[@faith4390]

Thank you for this tutorial. My accord is consuming oil and the engine has oil on the outside but not dripping on my carport.

[@FlyBeee]

My Accord had the same issue, it was consuming oil, there was oil on the outside of engine but no drips on the floor where I park the car. The new PCV valve fixed the oil consumption issue and had to get valve cover gasket replaced to fix the oil leak around engine. Please look into replacing the PCV valve and see if that fixe the oil consumption issue. If you get a chance please review the details I have in the narrative of the video on oil change interval. I hope it helps.

[@faith4390]

@@FlyBeee Thank you

[@lexusfan100]

i am looking to buy a 2013 2.4 with around 100K miles what should i look for and what service maintenance (major) should be done by now ( or should be done soon) thanks

[@FlyBeee]

Maintenance items: Record of transmission fluid replacement (not just one drain-fill), and regular oil changes (at 7000 miles or under). When you have bought one, immediately change a few items : Transmission fluid ($50 x 2), Coolant ($20), Engine oil ($30), headlight bulbs ($30 pair), wipers ($15), engine filter ($20), AC filter ($20) on your own - if needed, please see my DIY videos on these. This $250 investment in new-to-you Accord will bring it back to best life. Good luck and let me know what you buy. I still love my 2013 Accord which now has 130K miles :)

[@martinsifuentes177]

Don’t buy it

[@oscarivansalazaralvarez6702]

Do You know if this issue is present on the v6 motor from 2013-2015?

[@FlyBeee]

In my knowledge this issue is in v4 Accord only. V6 uses a different engine and I am not aware of oil burn issues in v6.

[@khalifashema]

What about for 08 v6 accord with same problem

[@FlyBeee]

Changing the PCV valve and completing oil change at 3500 mile interval will help for going forward, but not as much if there is carbon already built up on piston rings. How many miles do you have on your 08 Accord?

[@khalifashema]

@@FlyBeee about a 130k

[@khalifashema]

@@FlyBeee what do i do if there’s carbon in there already

[@FlyBeee]

@@khalifashema Carbon is the natural product of all internal combustion engines. The gas (fuel) we use has cleaners to keep the piston and combustion area clean. To help your engine clean already deposited carbon, switch to a higher grade fuel from one of the well known companies like Shell, and do oil changes at 3500 mile interval. Over the counter special cleaners like 'seafoam' that can also help - see videos on how to use seafoam before buying it. And last option is to do a fuel system service also called 'Induction Service' at your vehicle service shop. There are risks involved in the last option because induction services can cause your catalytic converter to get blocked with lose carbon and you will then need to replace your cat converter... which is super expensive! I would recommend to start with easy things you can do on your own.

[@JOATJESSE]

@@FlyBeee Have a compression check performed. See what your compression is in each cylinder. Takes a couple hours start to finish on a V6 but well worth the time to know where to start looking. If your compression is low in 1 or more cylinders then follow up with a leak down test and determine where your leak(s) are.

[@edubb2491]

Between the top dot and the bottom dot on the dipstick.. how much oil difference is that..say 1 quart..2? Ty for the video..i got 44,000 miles on my wifes 2016 honda accord..iam 3,600 miles into my oil change..and oil has dropped from top dot to right at bottom dot..its a bit concerning to me

[@FlyBeee]

When I refilled the oil it took a little over 2 quarts to bring oil level back to top dot. I made this video about 2 years ago so my memory may be off. After changing PCV valve the oil burn issue got better significantly so I haven't had to refill oil between oil changes. But as I listed in description of video, there is still oil burn just very minimal and it is due to the Earth Dreams engine. I am surprised that oil burn started in your wife's Accord at only 44K miles. That's really concerning.

[@edubb2491]

@@FlyBeee it is very concerning..i use penzoil..and percolator filters to..🤔 so id say i lost about a quart from top dot to jus at bottom..your dipstick read below bottom..yikes..glad you fixed the issue a bit..wish me luck..as my 5 yr warranty jis ran out

[@FlyBeee]

Have you used oil(s) other than Penzoil? did the car still consume oil? I changed PCV valve about 25K miles ago and that almost resolved the issue... and that is still holding up nice. If your oil burn issue gets worse or perhaps before it does please look into changing the PCV valve. I hope this helps.

[@edubb2491]

@@FlyBeee pennzoil is suppose to be the best?

[@FlyBeee]

@@edubb2491 I heard that too, but then many also reported in online forums Penzoil caused oil burn issue in their Honda.. so I am not too sure anymore. I am trying different oils to see if it makes a difference in oil burn and vehicle performance.

[@robertmceuen3630]

Oil on that dipstick looks dirty. 7000 mile intervals is too long. 5000 max.

[@FlyBeee]

I agree, have not switched to a much shorter oil change interval of 3500 to 4000 miles.

[@robertmceuen3630]

@@FlyBeee that's what I stick to.

[@FlyBeee]

@@robertmceuen3630 Awesome!

[@davidgoliath982]

i would drill out the holes in the pvc valve just for kicks. make sure it is pulling plenty of vacuum on the crankcase. $37 for that valve is robbery!

[@tailunge]

david goliath Which hole?

[@davidgoliath982]

@@tailunge had to rethink the idea. probably would mess with the idle speed too much and possibly pull in oil

[@FlyBeee]

$37 is pricey for sure. It did help with reducing oil consumption to a minimum so that was a huge win for me and made the $37 relatively acceptable! lol

[@tousshong9438]

That's because he got it directly from the local dealershit!! You can still get genuine Honda parts from another Honda dealer supplies for less online...if you don't need it like right now

[@yasirzaidan4995]

So basically it doesn’t burn anymore oil right? All you have to do is replace the PCV valve and get a get a new head gasket?

[@FlyBeee]

PCV valve change and oil change at 3.5K interval revolved the issue for the most part in my 2013 Accord... and now it has minimal oil consumption that I can live with. I think the new PCV valve will go bad too because the real issue is with Honda Earth Dreams engine and there is a class action lawsuit on Honda. Hopefully Honda provides a real long term solution. Please review description of the video where I have lots more details available. Thanks

[@joet4806]

I think you mean the "Valve Cover gasket" Not the head gasket.

[@FlyBeee]

Yep, I think 'valve cover gasket' is what Yasir is referring to. The one on this 2013 accord was leaking so had that changed.

[@edubb2491]

@@FlyBeee how do we check in with the class action lawsiut?

[@gabrielhurley7064]

Change the pcv valve every 25-30 k miles and do oil change with oil filter every 3k miles. Full synthetic no cheap oil or stick with Honda oil it’s the best.

[@pilot2020]

You can change the pcv but won't solve anything there's a proven flaw in usa engines that there burning oil .I also suggest lowering your mileage for oil change intervals the more you push the engine and burning oil sludge will happen and grime in the engine. I suggest you do it every 3 to 5k .if your losing ingredients almost 1.5 quarts before 2000 miles that's a issue to change it sooner.car only takes 4.5 qrts and the timing chain relys on oil lubrication.you will kill the tensioner or gasket or mess up timing chain

[@FlyBeee]

Thanks for the details. Yea, the combination of PCV valve change and more frequent oil changes is the most workable solution. In the 'results' section of my video description are my recommendations for handling this issue which still hold true even though I have driven 40K miles after changing the PCV valve. The 7K mile oil change interval seems like a marketing gimmick by auto manufacturers! lol

[@lincolnbroaddick3838]

I have what seems to me like massive blowby coming from the oil fill hole when the engine is on. just picked up the car from a dealer. its the strongest pressure ive ever felt coming from an oil fill hole and my hand smells strong of exhaust after feeling the pressure. havent checked the pcv valve but i dont think that much pressure is anywhere near normal regardless of a pcv valve being completely blocked. to me the only thing i can think is worn rings. im about to test the compression. gets terrible gas mileage but that can be so many things. its a 2008 2.4 vtec sulev. is higher crankcase pressure normal for vvt or this just a blown motor? any thoughts Troy?

[@RolexDSSD]

13’ sport 195k burns a quart 5-6k miles

[@FlyBeee]

That's pretty good! it is low oil consumption considering the mileage of vehicle!

[@Esuper1]

For most people this is not a fix. It's the dirty piston oil rings that have gunked up and seized. But its a cheap move so try it. For the piston ring problem try a really good bout with Seafoam or whatever can try and clean out the gunk that is seizing up the oil rings on the pistons. Good luck.

[@FlyBeee]

Yea, the issue is with the 'Earth Dreams' engine. If you have tried Seafoam, what were the results?

[@dward8738]

They should have continued production of the older 2.4 liter 4 cylinder engine. My 2012 Accord coupe has 266,000 miles on the odometer. I have changed the oil every 6,000 miles with Mobil 1 OW-20 synthetic since it was new and it still doesn’t consume oil between changes. I was thinking about buying a 2015-2017 Accord as a replacement but I think I will pass.

[@FlyBeee]

Yes, the issue is with the new Earth Dreams engine Honda used in this gen of Accord and also CRVs - all have oil consumption issue for 4 cyl engine and Honda has not addressed the issue.

[@stevebrackett2676]

Asking for trouble on these cars by using the oil life monitor for oil change intervals. Use full synthetic with quality oil filter ... 4,000 miles max. I’m guessing your oil control rings are caked with cooked oil by now .... hate to say it. But doubtful the PCV change will do much good.

[@FlyBeee]

Thanks so much for the feedback. I am not sure the issue is due to maintenance minder alone. have used full synthetic oil in all my Honda vehicles for years and replaced oil on Maintenance minder. But this model of accord is the only one with issues. Honda's Earth Dreams engine (used in this Accord) is known to consume oil and the issues is across different product lines (CRV, Civics, etc). Changing the PCV valve made the situation much better and significantly slowed down the oil consumption. However the Earth Dreams engine in this Accord will likely continue to consume oil.

[@natehiger410]

Nope, a lot of car brand in Europe required oil change for 15000km or more which is 9000 miles or more. So do the oil change at 4000 is waste of money

[@edubb2491]

Na..every 5k..not 7k..not 4k..5k

[@PabloEscobar-gv1cj]

Best comment

[@kronasolutionslimited2163]

@Fly bee where can I get the PCV valve?

[@FlyBeee]

The description of video has the Honda part # which you can buy from Amazon or your local Honda dealer. It is really easy to replace, and my Accord now has 132K miles and still doing pretty good. Best wishes

[@tellez4089]

My mom 2015 Honda Accord huge problems Starter Alternator barely 138k smh She’s done paying it off this year She’s getting a Lexus after this one 💀😂

[@FlyBeee]

The 2013-2017 model Accord needs bit more TLC vs other Hondas I've owned. One can only hope that Honda improves it reliability or it will lose customers.

[@nunezhgo]

got my 2014 EX sedan with about 30k miles now is about 265k the only issue has been the belt tensor I bought the genuine one and replace it beside that is only regular maintenance oil change tires brakes and a battery driving lyft for the last 2 years car holding up and full of power

[@FlyBeee]

@@nunezhgo This is awesome! Thanks for sharing your experience with 2014 Accord

[@dumbeezy5480]

Those are easy repairs tho lol. How is she complaining about that?

[@FlyBeee]

@@dumbeezy5480 Yep easy repairs but I can understand her Tellez408's frustrations because Honda created its name for being low or zero maintenance vehicle. I have had many Honda / Acura vehicles and the maintenance on this 2013 Accord is a lot more - none of my other (older) Hondas need this much work. Seriously! I have videos on three personal vehicles and you can see from my channel the 2013 Accord has the most videos because it has most issues! lol

[@rsaldana2310]

Hi, how many miles did your car have when you changed PCV valve?

[@FlyBeee]

I noticed oil consumption roblem at about 90K miles, changed PCV valve at 94.5K miles and have since driven 18K more miles and so far so good! knock on wood!

[@rsaldana2310]

@@FlyBeee,OK thank you, I have hond crv 2016 2.4 L.

[@FlyBeee]

Honda CRV from model year 2015 onwards use the Earth Dreams engine which has the engine oil consumption issue, that it empties out engine oil much sooner than oil is due to be changed and as a result the engine runs with little to no oil and is at greater risk to fail. There is even a class action lawsuit in GA court about this issue. Please read through comments here on things you can do to minimize the problem. In summary: Change PCV valve, do oil changes at 3K-4K mile interval, and check engine oil level often. It won't fix the issue with bad engine but will help you live with this and not experience an engine failure. Best of luck!

[@rsaldana2310]

@@FlyBeee thank a lot. Regards

[@danr1920]

So my '14 Accord with 145,000 miles uses a quart every 5000 miles is OK?

[@FlyBeee]

Thats quite negligible, considering Honda's standards for the Earth Dream engine.

[@neondiamondsaquaberry17]

Are you sure your measuring on a cold engine and flat ground ? Wiping the dip stick then inserting again and taking a reading ?

[@FlyBeee]

@@neondiamondsaquaberry17 Yep, exactly this - the tried and true way to measure oil level on cold engine, parked on flat surface, and measure twice on clean dip stick.

[@samwh4775]

Is not normal that any car needs oil, the oil should just get dirty, or if the car needs oil could be a leak, if is not a leak, then is not good 😅

[@FlyBeee]

Absolutely correct! I have had older model vehicles and none consumed oil, not a drop unless there was a leak.... and that's why was shocked and frustrated to learn that my newer model ride is built to consume oil :( and this problem gets worse if owners don't pay attention. I hope this video helps people become aware of the issue and also learn of things they can do to address it.

[@jesusloveyou9523]

Didn't Scotty say to stay away from them earth dream technology engine

[@FlyBeee]

LOL, doesn't help the people who already have a vehicle with Earth Dreams engine! :)

[@tyler560]

Scotty will say to stay away from everything except a Toyot Celica 🤣

[@FlyBeee]

@@tyler560 lol. .. and except Lexus ! 😃

[@ZCAR355]

On a recent video, he specifically mentions staying away from the newer 1.5 turbos, but talked positively of the 2.4.

[@tousshong9438]

He sure did but too late for me, I already own few 9th generation Accords...still driving the 2013 Accord with 103K and not problems with mine.

[@venomviper98]

I have a 2014 Honda Accord with 120,xxx miles. I've been having an oil consumption issue too. My gaskets are leaking like yours are too. I think the gaskets in our cars are blown. I don't think changing the PCV valve will fix your issue? I bet you also have white smoke coming out of your tail pipe when you start it up?

[@FlyBeee]

In description of the video I have details of my learning from this experience and 2 cents for anyone having the same issue. In summary, changing the PCV valve and oil changes at 3.5K miles resolved the oil burn issue for me. Try it out and see if this helps. For leaky seals, I had the valve adjustments and spark plug replacement done at Honda dealer and that includes replacing the seal so I didn't have to pay special just for the seal. Jan-Feb is slowest time at car service shops so it is perfect time to negotiate a best deal on any service like this. I hope this info helps. Ask any Qs if I can assist further. Best of luck.

[@venomviper98]

@@FlyBeee Thanks a lot for the response. I'll give the PCV valve a shot!

[@FlyBeee]

I checked engine oil level a day ago and it is still at full indicator of dipstick. This is 3K miles after last oil change. I did the PCV valve change about 25K miles ago and I do the oil change now after 3.5K miles. If you get a chance, please let me know the outcome of your PCV valve change. Thanks

[@2393034]

I have the same issue bro. mine is 2014 honda accord sport 115k. I probably need to change the cover valve gasket myself. How about you?

[@venomviper98]

@@2393034 PCV valve helped a bit. Try that first.

[@everythingsong3976]

What’s the name of the white thing

[@FlyBeee]

Can you provide more details about what you are referring to?

[@atifkhan4685]

What oil brand do you use?

[@FlyBeee]

Most of the past oil changes were at Honda dealers and they used Pennzoil or Quaker State synthetic. Have you had better experience with other brands?

[@masonlovesroblox]

I’ve used SuperTech full synthetic since I got my 2017 Honda Accord Sport SE. it’s like $15 for 5 quarts at Walmart. This oil is made by Wareen Industries so it’s excellent oil. There is no reason to pay for Mobil 1.

[@FlyBeee]

@@masonlovesroblox Thanks so much for the details and recommendation! We all add to the knowledge base available online and viewers/ readers can decide which particular oil / product they prefer to use. Best wishes!

[@zkmoonea]

@@masonlovesroblox Im eyeing a 2017 accord SE(Canada version of EX in USA I think). do you think I should buy a preowned since these accord might have later down the road leaking around valve cover gasket and also have oil burning off?

[@FlyBeee]

Honda vehicles these days require more maintenance vs. those from past years. If you are getting a good deal on 2017 Accord SE then I would say go ahead. These are still good vehicles and if you know the maintenance items to watch out for then it will help you take good care of the vehicle. It is the surprise / unplanned maintenance that is most unpleasant experience. If you aren't getting a good deal then keep options open. Perhaps 2016-2017 Camry can also be good option? Best of luck

[@bryanmitchell5728]

My 2014 has burned and or leak oil after I switch to full synthetic oil around 40k miles.

[@FlyBeee]

What oil did you use before switching to full synthetic?. did you also change oil brand?

[@bryanmitchell5728]

@@FlyBeee Honda oil.

[@zkmoonea]

@@bryanmitchell5728 dealer oil is full synthetic here in my area

[@ClamBlue]

All 0w-20 oils are full synthetic so either you were using full synthetic all along or you used the wrong weight of oil.

[@bryanmitchell5728]

@@ClamBlue Honda

[@jimwong2823]

Try replace PCV. IT'S WASTE EFFORT. Piston rings is the problem

[@FlyBeee]

Thanks for the feedback. Best wishes

[@jimwong2823]

@@FlyBeee my accord still burn oil after replace pcv

[@FlyBeee]

@@jimwong2823 Have you seen any improvement / reduction in oil consumption? How many mile are on your Accord?

[@jimwong2823]

@@FlyBeee burns 1 quart 1k miles. 84k. Piston rings is problem

[@FlyBeee]

@@jimwong2823 The real issue is the Earth Dreams engine that Honda used in the Accord and CRV. I have more on this in description of the video. A new PCV valve helps in most cases especially if we catch the issue early - and it did for me - but is not the complete fix because if piston rings have gone bad then new PCV valve cant fix that.

[@Gledi1990]

I just noticed the same thing on my 2013 accord lx , 2000 miles into new oil and the level is below lower mark on dip stick, and oil has been changed every 5k miles, so since the new pcv is the oil level still falling down??

[@FlyBeee]

Really good Q! Just checked - engine oil level is little below the full mark. This is after 7000 miles since last oil change. Recently learned that this model of Honda's Earth Dreams engine consumes oil so this issue will likely not end. But changing the PCV valve made the situation way better! I hope this helps

[@Gledi1990]

@@FlyBeee i replaced the pcv the other day, i still see white smoke coming out of the exhaust meaning its still burning oil 😕

[@worthduperier4284]

I have 253k on my 2013 accord lx. Obviously lots of highway miles. I never changed oil sooner than 7-8k miles. At about 150 I had same issue. My mechanic suggested a BG treatment. There are three steps to the treatment and you can purchase on Ebay as BG only sells to repair shops. Absolute incredible results. Now I do a BG treatment every 20-30k miles. It will be the best $45 you will spend. Shooting for 350k!

[@Gledi1990]

@@worthduperier4284 can you leave a link which one you purchased? Are you still using the 0w20?

[@worthduperier4284]

G T I have no changed the type of oil. Use what the cap says. If you don’t change your own oil (I don’t), the next time you get it changed, add the engine cleaner once you get to the shop and let it idle for 20-30 minutes. (Up the RPM’s to 1500 or so). Pull the car in to have the oil changed, add the engine additive, then add the gasoline additive. My mechanic charged me $200 for this service, now it cost me the 89 for oil change plus what I spend on the BG. www.ebay.com/itm/BG-44k-EPR-MOA-COMBO-KIT-The-3-Musketeer-Engine-Service-LOT-OF-3-KITS-3x/274144545586?vxp=mtr&item=274144545586&pageci=c51daaf3-5c9e-4ee8-a219-93734f8e9fb8&redirect=mobile

[@yabd792]

welcome to the toyota camry(4 cyl) 07-2011 world.

[@FlyBeee]

Thanks for the comment, I didn't know Camry 07-2011 had the same issue. Is there a solution that worked for Camry?

[@joet4806]

@@FlyBeee yes, Toyota issued a TSB: Technical Service Bulletin, if Oil consumption is greater than 1 qt per 1200 miles and under Mileage on Engine limitations- when the Owner reports issue to Toyota, Toyota will replace the pistons & rings.

[@surak24]

@@FlyBeee yes you need to change the piston head, they made correction by making the oil return hole in the piston bigger.

[@yuyuzhao96]

Already tried and replaced new PCV valve, still burning engine oil. Dealer say burning 1000mile per quarter is normal (my is burning 800 per quarter) and refused to honor the warranty.

[@FlyBeee]

It is sad that Honda is not acknowledging the issue with its engines. When you get a chance please review the narrative/text in the description of video when I have summarized my experience. In addition to replacing PCV valve please also do oil change at 4000 miles or less. What oil are you using for oil changes?

[@MyDarlin1]

same here. 2015 accord hybrid. i add a quart of oil every 1k miles. absolutely pissed off at Honda. no oil residue anywhere. makes me angry on a weekly basis

[@ohhgeebigmack420]

@@MyDarlin1 I'm on the same boat. Currently 101k miles. Honda just brushes me off

[@antoneyjemison925]

I have a 2014 accord sport with the 2.4. Right about the time i needed an oil change 3 yrs ago my wife said she came to a hard stop and it knocked for a few seconds. I found that it had no oil in it @ 63k i changed the oil right then and there and on my next oil change Brought it to honda. Told them what happened and THEY REPLACED THE SHORT BLOCK BASED ON A RECALL FOR THIS CAR AT NO COST TO ME with a new motor. they also used my extended warranty to replace the head. Everything was covered in carbon. It's now at 137k and half way through its current oil change ITS A QUART LOW. SO HERE WE GO AGAIN. I had replaced the pcv valve prior to the engine replacement and i didn't notice any change. Boo Honda, boo 👎

[@ygbodybuilder3023]

So changing the PVC Vale solves this problem because other videos act like they don't know what's the cause

[@ygbodybuilder3023]

@papa winluk so did your oil light pop up more often

[@FlyBeee]

I can only talk about my own experience which is that changing PCV valve made huge improvement that continued even after 12K miles. It is not 100% improvement because engine still consumes oil somewhat, likely because it was already affected and this Earth Dreams engine is known to consume oil... so I've understood this would likely never go to 0% oil consumption (even though my 07 Accord has 0% oil consumption). From comments I've received from people who didn't have oil consumption issue they never relied on car's maintenance minder that asks for oil change at 7K mile, instead they changed it at 4K mile interval even when using full synthetic. I used to change oil at 7K miles on this Accord but now after the onset of oil consumption issue I change synthetic oil at 4K interval and also keep an eye on the level through dip stick. Oil level drops half centimetre on dip stick between oil changes but not the drastic drop to below 'Low' level mark on dip stick that I had before PCV valve change and which you see in this video. Car now has over 110K miles and I am okay with the solution I've found. Its is not perfect, but works for me. I hope this helps.

[@DavidSanchez-ib4ft]

@papa winluk 2008 Accord 2.4 is not a pcv issue. It's the piston rings sticking due to carbon build up. This is a know problem with that generation Accord. The only solution is to replace the piston rings.

[@jakehorror5386]

@papa winluk following, I was thinking about doing this

[@itstheweather5859]

PCV valve is not the problem.

[@FlyBeee]

yea, the issue is with the 'earth dreams' engine

[@ZoiloYTz]

I get 14Mpg on my accord 🤣🤣 I do drive like if I’m in a hellcat tho

[@FlyBeee]

LOL.. the fact you have turned an Accord into a hellcat is priceless! :)

[@Wicked_pissah]

My accord is a demon my mpg is like 9 the way I drive from Connecticut to nyc

[@Lil28isthatguy]

Would this issue cause a catalytic code?

[@FlyBeee]

Yes, and excessive engine oil burn may lead to catalytic converter failure! If engine oil consumption stops after changing the PCV valve then run your car a few hundred miles and this may clear out / burn off any oil deposits in catalytic converter and the code may go away by itself. If you end up needing a new catalytic converter look into Magnaflow brand. I used it in my Acura TL and it worked awesome. I bought it directly from the vendor and had a local muffler shop install it for like $40. Good luck

[@BOOTROS80]

@@FlyBeee I LOVE HOW YOU'RE HELPING OUT AND RESPONDING. THANK YOU SO MUCH! YOU ARE GREATLY APPRECIATED!

[@FlyBeee]

@@BOOTROS80 You are welcome! Thanks for the nice comment :)

[@waelalhabeeb5334]

It was smoking little bit in the morning?

[@FlyBeee]

Yes, and it smelled bad burnt oil!

[@rayt5520]

My 2014 accord in first oil change at 6k was 1 quart low . This was one of many problems very disappointed in Honda and the dealership high priced but low quality parts.

[@FlyBeee]

I've owned Honda and Acura vehicles for years. My 2 cents is that Honda is no longer the company it used to be in terms of reliability. You really have to know the vehicle you are buying. Many of Honda's recent offerings have huge issues either with engine or Transmission. 2000s was filled with transmission issues, now its engines! About 2014 accord the problem is with Honda's Earth Dreams engine which is in 2013-2017 accord , crv and other vehicles

[@FlyBeee]

Dang! that's not good at all and expensive to fix! Did you fix the cvt transmission or trade in the car?

[@edubb2491]

How much oil is lost from the top dot..to the bottom dot on dipstick?

[@darioareviche5316]

I change my pcv valve and my car is still burning oil

[@FlyBeee]

What made and model of vehicle do you have, and how many miles on odometer? Thanks

[@darioareviche5316]

@@FlyBeee 2014 honda accord sport 2.4

[@FlyBeee]

@@darioareviche5316 Thank you. How much oil does it burn?

[@darioareviche5316]

@@FlyBeee burn 1/4 oil in 2500 miles

[@FlyBeee]

@@darioareviche5316 Have you tried a different oil and change oil more frequently?

[@vijayakumarchandrasekaran1027]

I have 2010 Honda Accord V4, with 97k miles on it. I have been having this problem of oil burning for past 2 years. Should I just try changing pcv valve ? Or should I install 'oil catch can' as well ? I hope just changing the pcv valve will fix my problem. Let me know. Thanks...

[@FlyBeee]

On my Accord a PCV valve replacement is all what I did and it fixed the issue. i’ve driven more than 20k miles after the PCV valve change and the car works awesome! My mpg is also at an all time high - just posted a video on that as well. Based on my experience I say change the PCV valve to start with and then decide if you want to install the catch can. Best of luck!

[@vijayakumarchandrasekaran1027]

@@FlyBeee Will try that. Thank you

[@FlyBeee]

@@vijayakumarchandrasekaran1027 If you get a chance, please let me know the outcome - other viewers would benefit from that too. Thanks so much!

[@vijayakumarchandrasekaran1027]

@@FlyBeee It didn't help much. I still have the same problem continuing. Also, I get 20 mpg from the beginning, may be that is due to my driving style..

[@FlyBeee]

@@vijayakumarchandrasekaran1027 If you drive in stop & go traffic or sit in traffic jams often that will lower your fuel economy. If you get a chance please see this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/roW0nIGaYtSqkNk about simple things you can do to increase fuel economy. How often do you change car's engine oil?