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@RoyalMontana Жыл бұрын
No
@gohabs8918 Жыл бұрын
What is it with trump lovers being the most weak, pathetic, annoying degenerates on the planet?
@regdexter40143 жыл бұрын
Everything he saying about Steven A is exactly how he ended up doing Max down the line when Max challenge him he got him fired
@tylyve32363 жыл бұрын
No cap i thought i was the only won who seen
@Dlord1PlayStation3 жыл бұрын
I thought Max left because he got his own show?
@TerpsMatterPodcast3 жыл бұрын
@@Dlord1PlayStation sure that's what it was 😉
@LuisPena-sf8mf3 жыл бұрын
@@TerpsMatterPodcast he took over for Zubin on the 6am radio show so instead of Keyshawn JWill and Zubin, it’s Keyshawn, Jwill and Max I will say he does look very relaxed doing this show
@universe-ie2mk3 жыл бұрын
@@Dlord1PlayStation no stephen a got him removed from the show and since he's still under contract, they just swapped him for the morning show.
@TheProdigyAccordion5 жыл бұрын
Can we just have a episode where they are allowed to throw hands?
@taylormuckler74683 жыл бұрын
Will Cain would get folded. 😂
@theoldpaths99073 жыл бұрын
@@taylormuckler7468 yeah right. My money 💰 is on will Cain. A couple of shots stephen will be put to sleep. Max is more beta than Stephen.
@taylormuckler74683 жыл бұрын
@@theoldpaths9907 on god Will Cain getting folded like a lawn chair. Cope
@Sebastian-in4po3 жыл бұрын
Molly getting bitch slap no cap😂😂
@pjkicks78603 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂all you'd hear is (ppppppp...pppp.mothaf..ppp..this my show..ppppppppppfffff...that my woman...pffffffuck......MAX! PPFFFFFF😂😂😂😂😂
@poolside161904 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when you mix politics and sports.
@TheKodiac296074 жыл бұрын
Facts!!!!!!! Get that crap out of sports!!
@sturner9734 жыл бұрын
Exactly lol they cut each other off more than Molly does 😂😂😂
@rockyward50073 жыл бұрын
Right will.Cain was a Fox News recruit the whole time..
@kevwallace66283 жыл бұрын
So sick of it
@eaddyquincy55353 жыл бұрын
Politicians should keep their nose out of sports
@MmaMadman852 жыл бұрын
I mean Will is completely right about SAS, anytime someone disagrees with him in the slightest he figures out some way to demonize them and making the disagreement a moral issue and then tries to apply pressure to get the other person to lean his way. Its not debating its manipulation.
@theshooterstdt12032 жыл бұрын
He was mostly referring to Max. This wasn’t the first time. Politically, Will and Max are polar opposites.
@cloudunderweather95542 жыл бұрын
Some would argue manipulation and debates are 2 sides of the same coin. And maybe they are, i dunno
@hdtvsavage85262 жыл бұрын
faxs
@shannonsharpe76952 жыл бұрын
Disagree with Stephen A and ya job on the line😂🤦🏾♂️
@justsaying32232 жыл бұрын
Will cain accurately represented them both as well as most leftists and activists
@cactusjack2264 Жыл бұрын
lol ESPN tried their best to hide this clip, just now seeing this
@falconeyes96686 ай бұрын
2024 revisited: Will Cain: GET ME TO FOX NEWS right NOW!!!!!!!! I HATE you liberals how dare the Warriors not visit my fuhrer at the White House!!! Oh I mean President Trump. F**k Will Cain then, F**K WILL CAIN even harder TODAY!
@BothTeamsPlayedHard3 жыл бұрын
This is Will’s Fox News audition tape- and he got that bag…
@ncintron763 жыл бұрын
Audition tape! 😂😂😂😂
@beards-N-boonies3 жыл бұрын
He aint lying. I was surprised to see him on Fox. I stopped everything and said hey you aint foolin me, no amount of extra make up can hide that face.
@charlielindberg61883 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! Love it
@jayrichjlr3 жыл бұрын
Was thinking this is what got him the job there
@earlhines18263 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
@Blackdynamite415 жыл бұрын
LMAOOO MAX AND STEPHEN A ON A SIDE FOR ONCE
@Pookie696952 жыл бұрын
Jumping bro and shit
@mobetta20922 жыл бұрын
Like Tom & Jerry when they occasionally put their beef on hold to defeat their sometimes mutual adversary, Spike the Bulldog
@tylersweat78982 жыл бұрын
@@mobetta2092 they do that with everybody but spike. Spike is Jerry bodyguard half the time
@lilp21292 жыл бұрын
They agree on the GOAT debate
@LALakerFan4Life2 жыл бұрын
New Yorkers stick together
@konkretestrong91293 жыл бұрын
Max turned to Stephen A lawyer right away 😂
@on1ydotb3 жыл бұрын
“Total bs”
@naquanjones13653 жыл бұрын
Max get outta here 😂😂😂😂😂
@matthewglover88042 жыл бұрын
@@on1ydotb "none of that occurred ".. "Total BS" lmaooo
@ryanjones81562 жыл бұрын
Yet max accuses Stephen A of the exact same thing hes been saying this whole time. Complete hypocrite.
@msb17042 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@antoniocaballero39762 жыл бұрын
“Everyone says it’s not political when they don’t believe there is another side to their opinion” Exactly
@Yuri-tt4jo2 жыл бұрын
Political debates destroy friendships and destroy professional relationships.
@GAMADEMARCUS2 жыл бұрын
Although I never agreed with all of Will Cain’s takes, I LOVED the fact that he never let Stephen A punk him, like Max does.
@luffymonkey95522 жыл бұрын
Lmao he almost cried
@TheSleepReaper2 жыл бұрын
@@luffymonkey9552 SAS always crying…racism
@luffymonkey95522 жыл бұрын
@@TheSleepReaper tf does that have do with will crying foreals??
@TheSleepReaper2 жыл бұрын
@@luffymonkey9552 figure it out u child
@luffymonkey95522 жыл бұрын
@@TheSleepReaper lol sure u little dog
@jclemons1213843 жыл бұрын
Looking back at it, Cain would've drove ratings like crazy.
@foolyunfiltered3 жыл бұрын
He was the perfect antagonist to both Stephen A AND Max, first take fumbled the bag
@texas9882 жыл бұрын
I agree, I often said Stephen partner should have been Will
@Kevon4202 жыл бұрын
He was more interested in soccer and hockey and other sports First Take would never cover.
@kingexclusivo2 жыл бұрын
@@Kevon420 Will Cain wasn’t interest in soccer at all. He thought Real Madrid and Barcelona were the same team at one point…
@alfredmcglothen60502 жыл бұрын
That’s true . He would’ve been perfect with Stephen A.
@en.43923 жыл бұрын
Will Cain on FT was entertaining can’t lie about that guys 😭😭😭
@mado36233 жыл бұрын
Yooo I agree you not wrong at all. We can say all we want about will Cain but the guy brought it every debate he didn't give a damn what anyone says he told it like it is no sugar coating anything. He would take on all people at the same time
@en.43923 жыл бұрын
@@mado3623 his passion was present everyday and he kept it real wth Max and SAS every segment
@Madferit913 жыл бұрын
Will Cain was the only substitute that I've ever cared to watch on First Take.
@Kevon4202 жыл бұрын
Nah he wasn’t funny at all, he’s just like that kid that was obsessed debate class in high school.
@duvalcounty45632 жыл бұрын
No he wasn't getting rid of Will Cain was best decision
@derekpotts70742 жыл бұрын
The more I watch videos like these the more I start to believe that debates are the biggest waste of breath. There is hardly ever a time where someone is able to convince the opposite party that their opinion is correct. You are just going to keep going back and forth and never come to an agreement…
@Bobby.20002 жыл бұрын
Debates are for actual intellectuals. Unfortunately TV only allows morons with little understanding of the subject to actually have these debates. Idiots who only want to win and are so used to their echo chambers or are too in love with the sound of their own voice that they cannot fathom someone disagreeing with them, while being so emotional that they fly off the handle the second someone doesn't just agree wholeheartedly. Don't listen to clueless idiots have debates. Seak real intellectuals who are very well informed on the subject and listen to them debate. Not bogus modern day professors either. But really knowledgeable people who do not see everything through the visor of their political beliefs. Different at the best of times, getting harder and harder each year. But they are out there and you can learn so much from them. Don't let TV personalities put you off the value of debating.
@shaunmati2 жыл бұрын
Well yes, but also I believe if it was just Will Cain and Max, it would be a true debate. Will Cain, although i dont entirely agree with his politics, is a pretty smart dude. Max is also intelligent as well. I dont quite know if they would be open minded enough to consider each others view points, but just from what I would see from both of them, they would be a good duo to have some real indepth debates.
@TheLirJEt86 Жыл бұрын
@@Bobby.2000love that opening line. So true. Only morons think they are always right and true intellectuals think they don’t have all the answers and are willing to learn. Well said
@cactusjack2264 Жыл бұрын
True but it’s entertaining that’s why it’s on TV and it’s been on TV for years lol
@anthonyhernandez2111 Жыл бұрын
Exactly man. sports debating is pretty much be called "Heavy opinionated discussions" only debating that should probably only matter is in politics where you have to objectively convince people to vote for them im office etc.
@stevec69652 жыл бұрын
Will could have gone even farther but he didn't because we all know what would have happened if he did.
@cameronno6039 Жыл бұрын
I don't know what you mean. I do know he is doing other things now with less success (albeit possibly more lucratively). I also know it was SAS and FT that got him a lot of national attention. Your point here is unclear to me.
@notallowed337 Жыл бұрын
Well he's a an ignorant racist sooooooo
@PraiseThaDon Жыл бұрын
Will was a real one
@macaltime2 Жыл бұрын
@@cameronno6039 less success? But more money.... interesting, please go back to school cause your point is very incoherent
@cameronno6039 Жыл бұрын
@@macaltime2 Short-bus shorty, over here, huh? I don't know that he makes more money. I said "possibly" for a reason. Also, money isn't the only marker for success. Access, screen time, name recognition, and multiple other factors account for your overall success and longevity.
@thetruthisreal40333 жыл бұрын
This episode was gold and I literally thought Will Cain was about to leave the set and say fuck yall.
@SA-cp4tw3 жыл бұрын
Probably did
@deonhacker9622 жыл бұрын
Yep
@mdb1010 Жыл бұрын
He essentially did. He moved to fox news shortly after
@mranklebreaker12103 жыл бұрын
This entire segment is so hilarious and awkward because they’re all tip toeing around the subject without specifying Trump, and specifically why KD doesn’t wanna go to the office, etc. We all know what their talking about though
@MrJockerson3 жыл бұрын
What subject are they tip toeing around? It seems they want to talk about Donald trump in some way but I can no figure out what exactly they are referencing
@매트-o6q2 жыл бұрын
@@MrJockerson just generally how Trump was viewed by the public as a leader and they are a sports show so they knew they can't get 100% into the politics KD was very outspoken about not liking Trump but they can't just straight up start saying that on the show The only thing I got out of this was that Will is def a Republican and was trying hard to not get to that conversation with them, at least on air lol
@liberaltears91922 жыл бұрын
@@매트-o6q ur a dummy when do these sports shows not talk about politics
@chriscothron36062 жыл бұрын
@@liberaltears9192 Well this was a few years ago before all that woke BS started on ESPN.
@stewartdelromero56502 жыл бұрын
@@chriscothron3606 Woke B.S started on ESPN before Trump lol
@James.1_2-36 жыл бұрын
He went in balls deep. What he said was uncomfortable but it was true.
@paulwilliams39304 жыл бұрын
Nah
@Runningitthroughyou4 жыл бұрын
BBB yeah he took the rubber off and they where forced to respect it
@kennethevans45554 жыл бұрын
Runningbull 😂😭 nobody respected it then he ran to Fox News to where he can be around biased opinion you people are so dumb
@jooyoungkang38583 жыл бұрын
@@kennethevans4555 acting like y’all liberals don’t do that with CNN. Get the fuck out of here
@elitepyrohd3 жыл бұрын
@yo pierre what do conmen ass conservatives do for black people? lol I dare you to post actual facts 🤡🤡
@cubzrulz2 жыл бұрын
SAS rebuttals only proved Will Cain's points. Don't forget SAS even walked off the set the time he disagreed with Skip. On Max's last show he was forcing him to admit he was wrong about the Brady cliff. They have been trying to prove themselves right more than they've been trying to talk about sports.
@thrillwill52 жыл бұрын
You sound dumb, it’s all for entertainment. It was a joke cause skip said some dumb shit. That’s why he’s as big as he is now
@isaiahcoley4382 жыл бұрын
Bit of a strech
@imyourdaddy8243 Жыл бұрын
i think a lot of what happens on the show (like the walking out) is for comedic affect and to boost the ratings so idk if i could hold it too much against him but what was said here definitely felt real
@PhoenixLance13 Жыл бұрын
1. Skip was trying to compare Tim Tebow to Kobe Bryant, any rational person would give up and walk away from that conversation 2. It was clearly a walk-off done for comedic effect and not serious
@kristofirwhite17552 жыл бұрын
"Peacocking on TV" lol! funny!
@DESMONDWOLF112 жыл бұрын
This aged very well. This is basically what our society has become. Convenience over consistency
@bluepearl_222 жыл бұрын
Yep. Hence why you see certain mfs go on the streets for having to wear a mask at Burger King but not for healthcare or voting rights.
@orange555 Жыл бұрын
You had the choice of all the possible reductive takes on this topic, and you chose "convenience over consistency". I don't think you understand this issue on even a surface level. Let alone a deep level.
@Charleswonder122 жыл бұрын
6:05 Max was so fired up his hand was ruthlessly trembling 😂😂
@aprilnelson3970 Жыл бұрын
Love his deer in headlights blinkers
@ShutThePuck Жыл бұрын
Max ethered him, Will wants to let people be hateful/racist and for that to not be considered immoral, Max eloquently pointed out that in some cases there is a clear line of morality. Will Cain would have defended slavery if he was brought up in those times, Max would have fought to end slavery.
@JSmithRecords10 ай бұрын
Hold on wait!! Wait! Wait! No no no!! 😂😂
@jrmne61982 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this live and thinking “This was a long time coming”. These 3 debating was electric and I knew Will Cain was gonna lose his shit sooner or later lol.
@TheLegend-qj7wh2 жыл бұрын
because he is right 100%
@akilanratnam14992 жыл бұрын
@@TheLegend-qj7wh no.
@jamesdemile41812 жыл бұрын
@@akilanratnam1499 yep
@leytonlabinski8551 Жыл бұрын
Yep
@billy3069 ай бұрын
Now Steven A is on his podcast saying he will never vote for Biden and is considering Trump lol. Oh how things have changed
@WestSide12072 жыл бұрын
This was just a normal guy arguing with 2 NPCs about "Orange Man Bad."
@CrazyGoblin-tc5qs3 жыл бұрын
To think max would always defend Stephen A. Smith just so he can turn on him
@KNByam3 жыл бұрын
Do you know what they're talking about?
@DTB19953 жыл бұрын
Classic white liberal
@yeahyeahyeahwhat62712 жыл бұрын
@@DTB1995 shut up
@AnthonydREDWAVE2 жыл бұрын
That’s what happens when you cater to the mob! “Go woke, ya go broke.”
@MFFLRicky5 жыл бұрын
This show hasn’t been the same since skip left
@TheMegatron6734 жыл бұрын
man we definitely don't need skip with all his nonsense and hating self
@joshDifferent254 жыл бұрын
You right, it’s been better.
@dodger3001003 жыл бұрын
@@joshDifferent25 unbelievable cap
@cultofpersonality20023 жыл бұрын
@@TheMegatron673 he was hating because he spoke the truth??? 🤣🤦♂️
@rwchitown55703 жыл бұрын
Skip moved on to a better show
@user-pj9ce5lb9q3 жыл бұрын
Stephen A does think he is the sports God though. If anyone thinks something other than what he says, he suddenly thinks that they are wrong because he’s the one that’s always right. Hard to watch him think he’s this genius when there are so many times where what he says is wrong. Getting information from the primary source and saying it on the show is the only time he’s close to being right, but when making predictions and decisions, he is the worst.
@jasonshonhiwa20333 жыл бұрын
Say what you want That nigga could make u look like a fool without knowin u brodie ain’t gone hold you😭
@itdoesntmeanathing3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonshonhiwa2033 he makes himself look like a fool get off Stephen A’s nuts bro
@DTB19953 жыл бұрын
@@jasonshonhiwa2033 Stephen A is the type of person who thinks yelling makes youre argument more convincing when it actually weakens it..typical of a liberal with no daddy in their life
@GoBirdz132 жыл бұрын
The Joe Rogan roast was pretty funny.
@sturrrdy2 жыл бұрын
Stephan A was that one kid in grade school who said timeout before tagging him Or cried when his momma slapped him for coming out as gay
@ryanodia22152 жыл бұрын
There’s never gonna b another passionate debate like these on the new version of First Take anymore 😂 lol
@anthonygodfrey20122 жыл бұрын
They let Will go because he was fearless and was unafrarid speaking his mind
@trelosgatos2 жыл бұрын
actually, you should be afraid to speak your mind if you're a racist scumbag
@faceofabeatenupbum-p4ppedc352 жыл бұрын
Fact
@orlandosantana8490 Жыл бұрын
No they let him go because at the time all he wanted to do was involve his political beliefs in everything. He was a hard core Trump supporter and started to act like he was on Fox News supporting his racist, lying dictator wannabe! He was a horrible sports analyst. Thats the facts! There is more to the story than this 5 minute clip.
@sproutzer Жыл бұрын
Actually will left then joined Fox to do his show now. His ratings where going down and has only appealing to certain demographic.
@uthamanj3 жыл бұрын
Will Cain was holding that in for a minute.
@taylorpack77053 жыл бұрын
I agree with will 100% people need to work together and listen to eachother’s opinions and not get offended by every little disagreement.
@cachanilla38392 жыл бұрын
As long as the word God isn't involved I agree
@cat740dt2 жыл бұрын
@@cachanilla3839 so random but ok
@cachanilla38392 жыл бұрын
@@cat740dt yeah maybe I need to put more thought into my comments. Happy new years.
@jaytok72 жыл бұрын
2 late....welcome to the cancel culture era 🤦🏽♂️
@higatoria60052 жыл бұрын
frfr literally if you bring socialism everybody just screams at you and calls you a communist
@kengy19913 жыл бұрын
Dude I remember watching this episode and I got scared because they really seemed to be mad at one another.
@j19aiden912 жыл бұрын
Nobody leaves These segments unscathed. I live for this stuff
@gotone25132 жыл бұрын
Scared of grown men having a heated debate?
@wintersouljah84372 жыл бұрын
Why the hell were you scared?
@kengy19912 жыл бұрын
@@wintersouljah8437 I thought they were going to say some things you're not supposed to say on TV...
@SKeTcH-DeSIgNN2 жыл бұрын
@@kengy1991 I wouldn’t even have responded 😂 common sense lol
@DavidMDougherty2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit. I've never seen this. I love this guy. He makes it even more painful to listen to Stephen A than Max does.
@wakaflokafamevevo Жыл бұрын
molly chiming in the whole time is crazy💀💀💀
@SM-qd7po3 жыл бұрын
I love Max, but if Max was anything like Will Cain, SaS wouldnt have clowned on him as long as he did.
@realme-tq4cq3 жыл бұрын
Will Cain ain’t been on the show since lmao
@jbtreshawn3 жыл бұрын
He work at a news network now I forgot which one
@HillTopHungBuck73 жыл бұрын
@@jbtreshawn You Know Which 1
@futuregameplay81933 жыл бұрын
Cnn
@papdizzle883 жыл бұрын
He's On Fox News
@sarcasmgod10023 жыл бұрын
He was a couple of times. Maybe 4 times then that was it
@lowEyez953 жыл бұрын
None of them are sports analysts, they literally just debate sports for entertainment lol
@manvirsandhu5082 жыл бұрын
respect for will for speaking his truth without any fear of backlash
@JustJakesTakes132 жыл бұрын
Stephen A half way through is like “what in the hell are we debating on FS1 right now ”😂
@calebsmock47113 жыл бұрын
1v2 and he held his own
@rrichmond143 жыл бұрын
Good one
@KNByam3 жыл бұрын
Yeah ok. Lol
@imthatboy59163 жыл бұрын
yea fucking right
@hmcsavage3 жыл бұрын
Plus some
@raihan69082 жыл бұрын
All he did was yell the entire time lol you people are delusional
@dperfect283 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 We knew Will was auditioning for FoxNews back then
@MKPolovanec2 жыл бұрын
Fox news is terrible but thrive when idiots on the left loose audience.
@Aj-cd5hc5 жыл бұрын
2:43 Molly of all people 🤣
@you16424 жыл бұрын
Actual trash 2278 she’s the last one that can say that 😭😭
@tyrellmurphy44103 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭😭😭😭
@Casey-su6xc3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, I was like “she got her nerve” 😂😂
@uthamanj3 жыл бұрын
I was ready for one of them to her to shut up 💀💀💀
@PerezSportsOfficial3 жыл бұрын
OMG LMAO!
@bkbaughn Жыл бұрын
Will did this while also being handicapped by the network he was on... You could tell he wanted to go so much further but couldn't because ESPN would have cancelled him 5 minutes after the episode...
@anthonyespinas7635 Жыл бұрын
😊
@dodger3001003 жыл бұрын
Max Kellerman blinks 600 times per minute
@justin-99333 жыл бұрын
Stephen A can’t stand being called out, he’s a hypocrite
@questcontentj8713 жыл бұрын
Max Kellerman having his future predicted before he could see it 😭
@Baby-zu5gi2 жыл бұрын
Can You explain?
@kais89602 жыл бұрын
@@Baby-zu5gi Stephen A proved wills point right because he did exactly what will described they do and got Max fired from First Take
@Usupposed2behittindat2 жыл бұрын
Max probably looking back at this now and saying damn I was on the wrong side the entire time because Stephen A got rid of him basically for disagreeing with him smh
@reedraikes74712 жыл бұрын
Nah max clearly was standing up for his beliefs
@Usupposed2behittindat2 жыл бұрын
@@reedraikes7471 you missing the point, I’m saying everything he’s saying about Stephen A smith is how he ended up doing max later
@mathiasjackson40552 жыл бұрын
😂 man I wish they could all sit down rn and have the same discussion
@RollinFatJs4 жыл бұрын
Dude on the right looked like he was gonna cry the whole time then wanted to fight to the death
@ChrisSmith-zv1qd2 жыл бұрын
You know his name. Stop being disrespectful
@Fotosynthesis8583 жыл бұрын
EVERYONE: let’s SAS speak with out interrupting SAS: interrupts everyone anytime he wants smh 🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️ If I were Max, I’d happily walk away from that loud-mouthed idiot too. Besides, Max’s new show is already so much better than FT. They have actual adult conversations.
@solomonistheking2 жыл бұрын
Bro imagine these same guys arguing in 2022 omg 😂😂
@kendavis92182 жыл бұрын
Love the way Will lays into this joker! Somebody has the guts to say EXACTLY what needs to be said!
@Whitetooth1030 Жыл бұрын
“MAXXXXX GET OUT OF HERE!!” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jayomar60543 жыл бұрын
Lol this why they say keep politics private at work 😂😂
@kydop61283 жыл бұрын
The guy in the middle is completely right. Max and Stephen get sooo mad when someone disagrees with them.
@KJisonit3 жыл бұрын
I think its all an act tbh
@mauriuntayhenderson82692 жыл бұрын
They wasn’t even mad💯y’all are delusional 💯
@kingdan21642 жыл бұрын
@@mauriuntayhenderson8269 what they don't get it's a debate show
@mauriuntayhenderson82692 жыл бұрын
@Ric flair bruh wtf is you talking about 💀what the hell biden gotta do with this 💯💀and plus I voted for Trump not Biden 💀
@him1019 Жыл бұрын
Will was more mad then all of them
@TomahawkSean6 жыл бұрын
Max was heated at the end tho
@mohamad42573 жыл бұрын
Can u explain what’s happening. I’m still confused?
@twiss93413 жыл бұрын
@@mohamad4257 Idk but i inferred that Will was annoyed about how people demonize the side they are against. Tired of the left vs right dichotomy. So he went in and accused Stephen A and Max for doing that. Taking some moral high ground and not listening to the other side at all. Which is like straight up questioning their integrity LOL so shit got heated.
@twiss93413 жыл бұрын
@oo70mar I don't think it's a matter of it being a correct instance of demonizing, but rather that the act of the demonizing when employed it is done in a way that is not entirely objective. You can condemn something that is blatantly wrong, but it should be done so without using jargon that just straight up alienates and clowns on the opposing side. That is dangerous and as far as I understand it goes against principles of journalism that many hold as sacrosanct. To avoid this you have to present facts as objectively as possible. Or else the problem arises. (edit: but it is super ironic how Will brings up this problem in a way that is doing the stuff he says is bad LOL. The discussion is definitely a nuanced one. We gotta be patient with each other and eventually we will evolve past this I guess)
@l9o6p7a3k4a3 жыл бұрын
@oo70mar it’s a dumb point. It’s not as simple as a “clear moral decision” as max himself described it as. Trump had the largest colored vote of any republican in the last 40 years. He’s taking a racial ground to make his “clear moral” stance when obviously he broke a steep racial voting barrier and created an extremely loyal fan base amongst those.
@l9o6p7a3k4a3 жыл бұрын
@oo70mar first of all proud boys was partially created by a Mexican and black dude. They also got a bunch of Samoans and Hawaiians that run around like henchmen for them 😭it’s majority white dudes but that’s all of America about 65% of it actually 🤣 you should really research these things. I’m Mexican buddy you can’t ignore the fact that his base was diverse. To anyone without a mere surface scratching perspective it was obvious that he spoke in layman’s slang.
@keithwhite8309 Жыл бұрын
Kellerman looks like he got slapped away from the table for farting.
@Aslavetofreedom2 жыл бұрын
1:58 u can see will is really pissed off he ready to throw something for sure
@_______________20012 жыл бұрын
He holding back the N word 😭😂
@itz_gold47546 жыл бұрын
He actually speaking out for Kevin Durant and supportin him
@user-zp5lt3kj7o3 жыл бұрын
what? God bless
@iwishiwasthomasshelby2 жыл бұрын
Every White guy who comes on is blacker than SAS
@coreycokepolk9483 Жыл бұрын
Will is talking in circles. He is a joke.
@GiftOfGav932 жыл бұрын
Lol when Max couldn't even get a word in at the end 🤣
@hulkoliver013 жыл бұрын
shocking Will is now a part of FOX news fitting in perfectly
@teamgreats40843 жыл бұрын
FACT
@petermorcombe83443 жыл бұрын
Cause he is an alpha boss and makes sense.. better than commi news network for sure..
@geezyeskabante3 жыл бұрын
@@petermorcombe8344 def not Alpha 😂😂😂
@petermorcombe83443 жыл бұрын
@@geezyeskabante disagree but youre entitled to your opinion.
@hulkoliver013 жыл бұрын
@@petermorcombe8344 commie*
@endangeredspecies8441 Жыл бұрын
Will Cain read this man to filth 😅 Will and Max were way smarter then Stephan A. And he knew it.
@LJChibueze2 жыл бұрын
Molly telling the guys to stop interrupting each other is crazy lol 😂
@mizzymilesdancmc12704 жыл бұрын
Will cain banging wit dat tie on 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
@joshclark10062 жыл бұрын
Will was holding his own against those 2 Stephen a and max honestly
@Saxandfifths3 жыл бұрын
Clicked on this just so I can see the days when First Take had Max and was actually worth watching...... =( We miss you, Max. Shit just ain't the same these days.
@darrius79742 жыл бұрын
True Stephen a being overrated asf. The 2 together was good. I'm not trying to watch perk and Stephen a
@bencarlson4300 Жыл бұрын
Stephen A has to have a proper foil. Max was decent, but the best show was always him and Skip. Terrible analysis, great entertainment.
@317MaseX2 жыл бұрын
Mannnnnnnn I’ve grown so much since this 4 years later I was so against Will back then but I’ll admit I was ignorant as hell and he was right Max and Stephen A was wrong and Will was also correct and pointing out their flaws.. anything they don’t agree with they will say is wrong or immoral or they will attack that person personally Stephen A did that Kyrie and the vaccination for example
@ypajay76582 жыл бұрын
💯💯💯💯
@whips82 жыл бұрын
@Musical Box Why?
@codebro9728 Жыл бұрын
Always gotta appreciate someone who’s willing to be more open minded and understanding. Will was arguing for freedom, Max and Stephen whether they liked it or not were on the opposite side and just like they all do, they used the bs “moral high ground” to defend it.
@victorbenitez22802 жыл бұрын
This a sports version of a news channel argument.
@gqtuesday3 жыл бұрын
They stressed bro tf out..he was drained lol “”moral choice for me max 😩”
@rosilynmakeba10929 ай бұрын
Yessss! He was like, I can't with you idiots! Your comment cracked me _up!_
@acetarlton40472 жыл бұрын
That jump back Max did when Molly said “can you guys stop interrupting each other?!” Did me in 😂😂😂
@blairthomas44622 жыл бұрын
He literally didnt even move
@kinglion86212 жыл бұрын
Didn’t even move 🤣🤣
@houdinilinguine2 жыл бұрын
Did not move even a bit😂🤣
@michaelgregory28932 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 facts
@Fastboycolt2 жыл бұрын
He didn’t even move ? what…..
@travisscottholdingmicropho4156 жыл бұрын
The guy in the middle is really done with Tyrone's shit.
@_hulse3 жыл бұрын
Who's tyrone ?
@MrLJGH2 жыл бұрын
@@_hulse Tyrone shoelace
@nehalghauri2573 Жыл бұрын
There’s a reason this guy isn’t on tv anymore
@zaaayyyy233 жыл бұрын
Will was about to explode on Max 😭😭
@sonytoor5423 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Will swung that way!
@EllieVelli3 жыл бұрын
PAUSE
@xavierperez41603 жыл бұрын
🤨📸
@aguamenti84253 жыл бұрын
Cain was the only one who knew the real face of stphen A and wasnt afraid to step on his feet
@0628etoria3 жыл бұрын
Dude in the middle will do great on fox! Got that look! And tone! Did a good job!
@FalconJudah3 жыл бұрын
In case you don't know? He became one.
@anb89462 жыл бұрын
damn, lotta respect for will cain after watching this. I didn't know he had this type of talent to articulate his points so effectively and consistently while being yelled at by two people on national television. Not to mention he was right.
@lewisjones3345 Жыл бұрын
Will Cain is a lawyer. So it should be expected for him to be able to hold and effectively argue either side. - Dude damn near cried though.
@f1lthyp1neapple982 жыл бұрын
Everyone like “oh finally someone speaks up against Stephen A” but the middle guy is not the type of dude I want on a sports show.
@monstaq953 жыл бұрын
I love heated arguments on these sports shows! Reminds me of my buddies and I talkin sports together lol it’s a part of the game
@luny2nez2813 жыл бұрын
I knew Will was going to be off the show soon when he was tryna demoralize SAS points for saying Kobe was more clutch than Kawhi Leonard
@ryangiaimo30252 жыл бұрын
If they woulda got up and started punching will i woulda started dying 💀😂
@OreyBorey Жыл бұрын
Will looked like he wanted to say the N word to win the argument lol
@globalspiritualrevolutionmedia2 жыл бұрын
Will Cain absolutely destroyed both SAS and Max!!!!!! I’m so very happy that Will left ESPN.
@lildave18584 жыл бұрын
U know u in trouble when both Steven A Smith and Max Kellerman disagree with u @ the same time
@joshhutchins59613 жыл бұрын
Not really in trouble, more like a comedy
@lildave18583 жыл бұрын
@@joshhutchins5961 😂
@DTB19953 жыл бұрын
Not when regarding politics..theyre both liberals and Will is conservative so thats why
@nonamed562 жыл бұрын
what did you do with all the time you saved writing "@" instead of "at"
@insertlastname2 жыл бұрын
Yeah you know you’re in trouble when the cucks circle jerk each other non stop
@23rogue752 жыл бұрын
I love how max and Stephen team up on him 😂
@eligeorge13902 жыл бұрын
Dang… I don’t like Will Cain at all, but he was on point with this on every point
@mauriuntayhenderson82692 жыл бұрын
No he wasn’t 💯
@ImaSuburban2 жыл бұрын
@@mauriuntayhenderson8269 facts 😂
@wavygaara2 жыл бұрын
Lmao no he wasn’t
@eligeorge13902 жыл бұрын
@@wavygaara lmao listen again
@joeyhernandez79082 жыл бұрын
No he want idiot
@marcussotelo86242 жыл бұрын
Molly your the last one to say stop interrupting each other
@tirosc Жыл бұрын
You can almost see the exact point that the ego stepped in for all of them. This is the verbal equivalent of trying to do a flex contest.
@quincyessibrah74334 жыл бұрын
Will Cain is like the little brother with a chip on his shoulder
@jacobsumner84213 жыл бұрын
No…he’s just the only one with some sense who is not driven by emotion.
@quincyessibrah74333 жыл бұрын
@@jacobsumner8421 you do realize I was making a joke right?
@jacobsumner84213 жыл бұрын
@@quincyessibrah7433 oh okay. thats a joke? wasn't funny.
@quincyessibrah74333 жыл бұрын
@@jacobsumner8421 to you
@40799073 жыл бұрын
@@jacobsumner8421 opinion, opinion.....
@nuwavemedia1523 жыл бұрын
Wow..... Will Cain seems like a prophet in Retrospect..... Valid points that actually are currently leading2 the demise of First take....
@taylobanz3 жыл бұрын
Every time I have a bad shit I watch this to block the sound😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@madk1893 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@vlocke832 жыл бұрын
Say what you want about his viewpoints, but Will Cain at least has the balls to fight 2 on 1 for this issue whereas others would turn tail and run.
@SensiRojo202 жыл бұрын
I definitely miss Max on the show 😔
@hiimmidas2 жыл бұрын
they were the best duo!
@darrius79742 жыл бұрын
@@hiimmidas I like skip and Shannon when skip not talking crazy. But I definitely watch Max and SA. SA said it didn't work lmao I think he meant people like max more so he gotta go
@mike.cdn72123 жыл бұрын
4 topics that guarantee an argument: religion, politics, feminism and race.
@1ZosoLZ3 жыл бұрын
And Brady sucks
@thedarknight2413 жыл бұрын
Three grown men arguing about some guy who plays basketball that won’t visit the White House? This is probably more entertaining than actually watching an NBA game though.
@flacko_jody21303 жыл бұрын
Your not a sports fan. Stay in politics we don't care weirdo😅😅
@Chuy231993 жыл бұрын
Sports >>>>>> politics
@GetintheCAH3 жыл бұрын
It's called debating & people love it. Welcome to the world buddy
@Unc6543 жыл бұрын
It’s their job u idiot
@EllieVelli3 жыл бұрын
They get paid a lot of money to do this though… it sounds stupid until you add in that part you conveniently left out.
@andrewtodd91032 жыл бұрын
Will called out Max perfectly. Dudes a bigot.
@HawksnestGaming2 жыл бұрын
People get so upset about Trump being mean. You know what was also mean? Obama going to Flint, Michigan and mocking the lead crisis. You know what was also mean? Biden calling Peter Doocy, "A stupid son of a bitch." Anyone that every cried about Trump being mean can shut the fuck up.
@fadsasdf99562 жыл бұрын
I love seeing moral arguments being made when both sides believe that they are holding an objective moral belief while simultaneously not being able to ground the objectivity of those beliefs in anything substantial. All three of them fail to see that they all hold subjective moral values based on socio-environmental evolution. The amount of intellectual dishonesty in this argument is wild.
@beehive1412 жыл бұрын
Steven A got him fired after this !! That man Steven A is a snake !!
@connorjohns64843 жыл бұрын
This proves max is smarter than sas who just wants to shout and attention seek max actually debates with will
@mglasperhsrc3 жыл бұрын
This is an ignorant statement. Both brought out points and SAS actually calmed the argument despite the base on his voice which seems to make him unintelligent to you.
@TB-wm1hv3 жыл бұрын
Max went to Columbia and SAS went to .......
@laryangel40822 жыл бұрын
Max always been a smooth operator
@mglasperhsrc2 жыл бұрын
@@TB-wm1hv you don't necessarily need to be in a certain college to be educated...most of the "billionaire" who are I'm charge in big marketing are just high school educated. You missing the point of the reasons and fundamentals of being schooled.