How a "Progressive Christian" Pastor BUTCHERS John

[@frogpaste]

"We are all gods." -Oh, so he's a Mormon "Jesus is not the Christ." -Oh, so he's Jewish "Jesus was the first creation of God." -Oh, so he's a Jehovah's Witness "We all need to realize our divine self." -Oh, so he's a Buddhist Man, this guy is all over the place!

[@Hearth123]

You summarized it perfectly! 😂 This guy is just religion hopping and calling it Christianity, zero truism to the scriptures

[@SymphonyZach]

The devil tends to use a variety of resources when making sermons.

[@wlknonsonshine]

Covering all the bases.

[@michaelsorensen7567]

Thoughts on Romans 8:17?

[@frogpaste]

@@michaelsorensen7567 I'm certainly not on Pastor Mike's level of being able to answer questions on the fly, but I'll try my best here. Just reading the passage around that verse, it seems primarily to be about living a life forsaking sin. Paul mentions in verse 13 that if we live according to the flesh we will die, but if we, by the Spirit, put to death the deeds of the flesh we will live. Dying and living in this context seem to refer to the next life. Verse 14 says those led by the Spirit are God's sons, verse 15 says we are sons because we have received the spirit of adoption. Verse 16 says the Holy Spirit Himself testifies to this adoption. Verse 17, if children, then heirs of God with Christ. Side note, it doesn't say we *are* Christ. Now, it says we are children and heirs IF we suffer with Him. What does it mean to suffer with Christ? Obviously, Paul isn't saying we should all suffer crucifixion - besides, that would be suffering *as* Christ, not *with* Christ. It seems that he is referring to being rejected by this world as we live our lives for Christ. This seems to flow nicely between rejecting the sins of the flesh, in the beginning of the chapter, with all of creation (and ourselves) groaning for the redemption from this life and the redemption of our bodies at the end of the chapter. That's my quick understanding (and 2 Corinthians 1:5-7 seem to agree). Now I have to get off my phone and get back to work. :) Cheers!

[@itsthehumidityyall8303]

“You are all Gods.” - Serpent in a garden…

[@christophersnedeker2065]

No he said "eat this and you'll be gods" Jesus said "know ye not I said ye are gods"

[@christophersnedeker2065]

@Infinity CrusadeYou praise the Lord of darkness yet you see using light, checkmate satanists.

[@-Bellana-]

The fact that simple posts like this can draw Satanists and the like to our conversations....shows they needed to be here for a reason. Bless them for finding how to get to the light. ❤

[@krustysurfer]

@@Michaelh76 that is kind of how I understand it as well we have God like powers in the image of God and have free will as God has free will we are also free to choose hell and choose to be our own gods and we will suffer the punishment for doing so because we chose it, because we cannot fathom or appreciate or choose salvation through Jesus Christ, for some reason some cannot accept the gift. I choose the gift even though I am completely undeserving I will still accept the gift the trick is acting grateful being truly grateful and living one's life out in that gratitude of salvation.

[@krustysurfer]

@Infinity Crusade said the ascended masters and mystery School Babylon...

[@cas22924]

Pastor Sal: “Amen. Namaste.” Me: “Nah, I’ma stay away from this false teaching and heresy.” 😬

[@AndreyRadchishin]

i'm stealing this for next time someone says that

[@joshduthie3401]

Why is it that the far out liberal Christians always reject the council of Nicea?

[@roshanmaharana]

Well there's nothing wrong with namaste. It's just the Indian version of hello. But it isn't the equivalent of Amen. But I can understand the message you want to give. This Sal fellow is surely dangerous and all Bible-believing Born-Again Christians should call him out and warn the church against this heretic.

[@roshanmaharana]

@@joshduthie3401 because they believe in Da Vinci's code more than the Bible.

[@thereseservais924]

😂

[@AndresM.Escudero]

Recently left a Bible study group because the facilitator was using John 10:34 and Psalm 82:6, to teach that "we are little gods", and I rebuked him, politely, telling him that failure to acknowledge the context creates a pretext for error, and that when you read the context of both those chapters, they are verses of rebuke, that you don't want to apply to yourself. I got told I a spreader of discord amongst the brethren, and didn't know what I was talking about...I kindly apologized to him, saying, "I'm sorry my Bible offends your bad hermeneutics", and left. I was shocked to discover multiple people also left, because he's also teaching people how to speak in tongues, give each other spiritual gifts, activate the Holy Spirit, and that when a person accepts Jesus as Lord and Savior, they will never sin again. Not sure what Bible he's reading from, but NONE of the translations I've read teach these things. Of course you'd believe you can do all of those things, if you believe you are a god!! Such a shame

[@justinmcnaughton3016]

Sounds like word of faith teaching (prosperity gospel) when I became a Christian I was deep into word of faith and believed that same way. Bless you for getting away. God saved me from it years ago praise God

[@marilynmiller5075]

Kenneth Copeland teaches that we are all little gods

[@stephanieparsons1056]

That's a very false doctrine spreading all over the place. praise God you weren't deceived

[@stephanieparsons1056]

​@@marilynmiller5075 I saw a clip of of him saying that, I was floored!!

[@matthewhummel1572]

Sounds like dude is looking to have his own tv program one day.

[@CourtneyBrimm]

“Someone’s going to go read the Bible and say ‘I believe this, not that,’” is EXACTLY what happened to me. This guy’s twisted scripture is so similar to Neville Goddard, a 1950s “mystic” I was really heavily into. I only went to read the Bible because he quoted it so often I figured I’d go read it myself to cut out the middle man ... THANK GOD, He opened my eyes to see the Truth. Praise the Lord.

[@andar_k1194]

If youre going to make up your own god and religious framework why use the Bible at all? So bizarre

[@mariaruiz447]

Thank you for sharing ❤️ I’m so glad you came out of that! God is mighty to save!

[@exquisite_f1213]

Also fell for Neville Goddard and his twisting of scripture. It wasn’t until I read the Bible that I found out how deceitful his teachings are. My heart aches for all whom follow him & the LOA coaches. 💔

[@bekksterlab]

Praise God!

[@shockthetoast]

@@andar_k1194 the best lies have an element of truth. And there are still many people who were raised to believe that the Bible is important but haven't read it much (if at all).

[@evan6568]

I winced when he said, "It is NOT about accepting Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior, it's about realizing you ARE a god.". I thought to myself, Satan is trying to make a mockery of the Gospel of Christ Jesus, and all he needs is a willing a soul, like this false prophet, Salvatore.

[@nicerperson1]

Me too! I felt the same when I heard the (not my father) Francis saying believing you can have a personal relationship with Jesus outside of the Roman Church, is dangerous and harmful. Francis is another antichrist. (anti being "in place of" Jesus)

[@jonathanallen9607]

That is exactly what Satan wants to do. Make a mockery of the Gospel. Just look at the way he words the scripture when he tempts Jesus in the desert. Satan knows what is written in the Bible and he knows how to twist it so it looks like foolishness. He has false prophets all throughout the church. Progressive church and prosperity church are 2 most severe of these.

[@jcenterprisesjc]

I'm literally sitting here listening to this garbage with my mouth open in pure shock!

[@TheMonteCarlo]

Salvatore translates to "savior"

[@360gunner]

Exactly, when you aren't blessed/capable of making your own greatness, you must try to ruin all greatness in your jealousy

[@HapaBindery]

My mother is a progressive minister with the UCC in Missouri.Pastor Mike, this video really hit home for me. I have a lot of trouble even talking with her anymore. I’m at a loss. Thank you for making this video, because sometimes I’m in such utter shock at the things that she preaches and tries to “share” with me, that I’m am unable to respond effectively in the moment. This helped to shed light on some things. Thank you

[@benry007]

Praying for you and your mother.

[@cpruitt7870]

@@benry007 praying as well for your mother

[@danielborgeras8453]

Im praying for you and your mother as well.

[@claudiapoe5292]

I cannot imagine the pain that you are experiencing. It must be similar to watching a loved one overdosing again and again. Never knowing if this will be the last time you will ever see them again. The heart wrenching knowledge that they are self destructing and you feel as if you have no power to stop it. The fact that they are adults and have made this decision doesn’t make us feel any better. You just want to make everything better. To know they are safe. I am so sorry you are going through this and my heart goes out to you. As Christians, we want nothing more than knowing our loved ones are safe in Jesus’ arms. So I pray that you seek out the comfort that only Jesus can give you and rest in the knowledge that he knows your pain and will walk through this with you. 🙏

[@J.pinkett]

Praying as well. I deal writ the same problem

[@BusyBodyVisa]

I went to a progressive Christian church that was led by a black lesbian preacher, as far away from the patriarchy as you can get. The thing was their lives were indistinguishable from non-believers. I then went to a real Christian church and I was amazed to see so many people trying to their best to live a Godly life and they had a peace in their eyes that I didn't see in the progressive church

[@J_Trask]

It’s so interesting because the Bible is quite clear on sexual immorality, and that the Bible permits sex only in the context of marriage, which is explicitly between a man and a woman, with the intention of multiplying.

[@shadowm2k7]

Something that has been really helpful for me to spot false prophets lately is really studying the Bible and knowing the Word It was difficult to see before but now, armed with knowledge of the Word, we can better fight and slay falsehoods like the one in the video

[@wakingupat2pm349]

Who is ordaining these people?!

[@lordmouse_ivmeme2845]

What about being.

[@RossLemon]

They merely want a lie that can reaffirm the lifestyle that know is sinful and degenerate. And the bible does not reaffirm that lie, so they have to try and twist it.

[@motojabe1]

"Turning from Christ to self is idolatry" is perfectly stated.

[@propellerhead428]

Matthew 7:21-23

[@jacobdiscipleofjesusforeve419]

But evil people and impostors will flourish. They will deceive others and will themselves be deceived. 2 Timothy 3:13 NLT

[@alegrefeliz7579]

@John Brawner Feliz 0 seconds ago The word "Elohim" was translated "God." The word Elohim meaning is "powers" in the original biblical hebrew. In Psalms one read that we are little "gods"which means "little powers" The creator is the only one that has all the powers. The letter "J" was invented in the year 1500 and implemented after the year 1611 so the name "jesus"did not existed and he is never mentioned in the old testament, and by the way the title "old testamnt" is not the real title but rather Torah which means "instructions" Learn biblical hebrew while still free on youtube i am an ex christian converting to true judaism escape!

[@arthurserino2254]

The problem is, Winger and other fanatical "Christians" worship Christ as a god.

[@ultrad-rex1389]

"We are all gods." Believing you're a god is like believing a paper airplane is a real Boeing 747.

[@christophersnedeker2065]

How do you know what Satan believes?

[@elijah_godslayer9904]

@@christophersnedeker2065 the bible says about that one that he comes only to steal, kill and destroy. His intentions are never stated to be good or of God. His beliefs is that he thought he could overthow God and tempt the Son of Man, make God's image disobey God and bring chaos to the world. The serpent said "You shall not die, rather you will be like God knowing good and evil". No creature can be likened to God according to the bible. Only God can be likened to God.

[@technicianbis5250]

When Jesus made the statement "you are gods" he was talking to his disciples, not the whole church. Many Christians will spend eternal life on Earth which is still Gods kingdom.

[@technicianbis5250]

@@christophersnedeker2065 "how do you know" Jesus stated, the demons know God and tremble, it stands to reason if demons know God, so does satan.

[@christophersnedeker2065]

@@technicianbis5250 To know God is to love, they know about God.

[@tristenwilliams1943]

His teaching is literally Buddhism but morphed into Christian terms. I used to be Buddhist, and when I rediscovered Christianity I said many similar things, trying to blend the two religions together. Thank you Lord Jesus for showing me the true path, HIS truth. There is only one way to the Father.

[@rachelfinch9371]

It’s like he wants to know Jesus but he’s not done with living in the new age movement

[@aussierose9015]

It's also apart of Luciferian , simplified: believing we are gods

[@Chase_Istre]

Not sure if you delved into Buddhist sutras and suttas but this is not Buddhism. There is quite the vast difference from Buddhism in terms of orthodox Buddhist views and new age syncretized Buddhism. “Divine Self, all of you are gods” is something someone may post with a Buddha picture as a quote but has no authority or real authenticity in the Suttas and such. An idea of ‘self’ is the very delusion which keeps trapped in worldly delusion. The whole ideal of Buddhistic view is to end the idea of ‘self’ and worldliness [eight worldly winds and the fetters of carnality]. I’m saying this in the view of a religious study not as someone who prescribes to one view fighting another so don’t mistake that from me here. But as someone who studies religion it is quite a problem to see new age western-Buddhist syncretism mixed with Orthodox Buddhism and then generalizing all of Buddhism (whether in the Theravada or Mahayana schools) with western new age influenced movements which does glorify the self and self-desire [the very obstacle to liberation per Buddhist text)

[@duocred1535]

Buddist is about deniying yourself, he speak about "embrace or divine self" is just the postmodern spiritual trash

[@arthurserino2254]

You call yourself a Christian, yet you knowingly call our Messiah by a false name. That pretty well sums up what kind of "christian" you are.

[@xenossoundworks7771]

As someone whose fallen for false teachings in the past, I can't stress enough how important it is to study the scriptures for ourselves instead of putting our faith in ministers and pastors. Lack of biblical knowledge makes us easy prey, and it's an absolute MINEFIELD out there!

[@sammcrae8892]

Measure EVERYTHING against the scriptures. If you are not sure, keep looking. People like Mike Heiser and Mike Winger are a good place to start. Not saying EVERYTHING they say is chiseled in stone truth, but I've never heard them say anything blasphemous or heretical. Some denominations may see things differently, but they still have the basic gospel down pat. You might also want to check Dr. J. Vernon McGee, and Mr. Les Feldick, Adrian Rogers and similar folks. At least you won't get anything too radical with those guys. 🙏✝️🙏

[@justinmcnaughton3016]

Yes yes yes! Even me I know scripture pretty well (not boasting!!) and even sometimes I find myself asking myself oh my goodness am I right? After talking to a Muslim or morman or Jehovah witness. But then I refer back to Scripture and yes we are right Jesus is God and Jesus is the ONLY way. it is CRUCIAL CRUCIAL to know scripture extremely well and understand context EXTREMELY well.

[@stephanieparsons1056]

Exactly! You won't be able to see the false doctrine, especially if the preacher is a smooth talker if you don't know God's word for yourself

[@arthurserino2254]

Ironically, Winger here has a woeful lack of such knowledge.

[@MortonHollingsworth]

I agree the best way to do that is listen to the audio book Bible and experience it being read to you.

[@caraathasthebulwark5022]

I’m sorry, I’m still a novice in my journey, but my soul revolted against everything that man said.

[@Deepthoughts4ever]

Good! Then you are on the right track. The Holy Spirit protects us from this sort of false teachings

[@jeaniepatterson2384]

Good for you! Stay in the word! The Bible says “ these words, I will hide in my heart that I might not sin against God”!

[@GreyBlackWolf]

Thats a good sign

[@nicerperson1]

He is filled with an antichrist spirit - demonic.

[@Anonymous-bg2cx]

Go and read the gospels of Jesus Christ, do not look for milk here, robbers and wolves will poison it so they may feel mighty.

[@swolf712]

“It’s not about accepting Jesus as your personal Lord and savior, it's about realizing YOU are a god.” Satanic.

[@samanthajeffers9339]

Yeah, that’s a big ol’ OOF

[@sdthyng]

Witness Lee's church, "The Lord's Recovery" believes this.

[@jacobdiscipleofjesusforeve419]

Just as satanic as dragon ball...

[@mahoneychris17]

@@jacobdiscipleofjesusforeve419 is dragonball a religion? Does that mean marvel, dc, friends, I love lucy, Andy Griffith, happy days, ect are these religions or entertainment?

[@dolly3141]

He should have added a so above so below to really drive home the satanicness about it Still can't believe I read that in the passion? Or was it the message translation? 🤔

[@mogx2586]

I am new to Christianity and I have to thank many pastors on KZbin for their unapologetic explanations of the Bible. I haven't been drawn to God for ease - I am a sinner and I want to change my life for the better. Thank you for warnings like this. I only fear people like me are falling into their trap.

[@herrgodfrey9563]

It's a scourge. These "pastors" have forsaken the Bible in order to twist it in order to fit their sensitive, modern, and degenerate sensibilities.

[@pinkroses135]

❤ you're all fortunate to have access to the information you need day or night

[@Geeyoo1995]

I can give you some good pastors to name a few I recommend, Billy Ghram, Tony Evans, Charles Stanley , Paul washer. Richard Lorenzo is a young pastor but has good sermons , videos and messages as well.

[@flappyturtlesnatch]

Always go to the source. Always go to the Bible

[@peculiarmarc6477]

Exodus 20:7 In Context "Do not use my name for evil purposes, for I, the Lord your God, will punish anyone who misuses my name"

[@RageCreati0n]

Almost like he forgot about “I Am the Way, the Truth and the Light. No one comes unto the Father, but through Me.”

[@DanielGangs]

Eh, easy to forget as a pastor, is it not?

[@amthatdad3450]

30:27 the man is literally lying to the people!

[@susanjablonski8532]

I played the intro for my 11 year old son after I watched it, to use as a teaching moment. I said, "you know those spot the differences picture games? Well, I want you to listen and spot the lies in this video." Preparing our children for the Godlessness of this world is so important. They need to know not only about the real God of the Bible, but how to defend their faith. Thank you for sharing!

[@jesussaves6625]

I have an eleven year old daughter, myself. I like the idea of spotting the wrong teachings in bad sermons for biblical teaching. Thanks.

[@dessnatazha]

This would've been great in Bible study as a kid, thank you for this idea!

[@travisfrench1981]

I'm gonna do that too. My 8 year old daughter, and an 11 year old boy we are currently ministering too. Son of a widow. Thanks for the idea 💡🙂

[@bentorres4756]

That's actually a really cool teaching idea. I'm going to use that when I have kids someday.

[@PropheticEclipses]

I give you an assignment now show your son the same theology in contemporary Christian music and see if you can find this music also promoting these ideas.

[@bluestar8700]

I literally yelled “blasphemy” the minute he opened his mouth. How do people sit and listen to this? No one walked out?! The man spoke so much but said nothing. Mike, thanks for calling these fake pastors out. Oh my.

[@makylaandel6969]

I did the same thing!

[@TinaNicklin-bj1js]

Me to I was so upset that he would dishonor my beautiful LORD Jesus Christ 🙏,I hope he gets called out for the heretic he is !!

[@Charles-mv7sv]

Most people don't read for themselves. They think hearing the pastor is how they are supposed to learn.

[@arthurserino2254]

The fact that you yelled "blasphemy" at the first word he said says a lot more about you than it does about him. If Christ were alive today, you'd be yelling the same thing at him.

[@doow11]

"You are gods!" "You're a heretic." That killed me.

[@barretthighschool9508]

@Doow XI, me too 🤣🤣

[@TheBigWeasel_73]

Same, lol

[@Anonymous-bg2cx]

34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’[a]? 35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came-and Scripture cannot be set aside- 36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’? 37 Do not believe me unless I do the works of my Father. 38 But if I do them, even though you do not believe me, believe the works, that you may know and understand that the Father is in me, and I in the Father.”

[@dieselcowboy777]

And you are spiritually ignorant....the prophets were amateur gods

[@eonreeves4324]

we are gods, do you see animals building super structures and particle colliders? no... we are gods in the divine form. you don't want to be god because you are a child of god... a CHILD... children shun responsibility but not I which is why I will embrace the truth.

[@music79075]

I read the thumbnail and the title and started tearing up. This man is *lost*. This reminds me of what Paul said, "I am afraid for you!"

[@oliviahartland]

This is the epitome of being so open-minded your brains fall out... The only way to believe that all religions lead to God is to completely misunderstand all religions.

[@jessitabonita]

Agreed!

[@JoelPit]

As a student of theology I've studied many religions they are all cheap knockoffs of the one truth which is in the words Of Jesus. Satan has been tricking people since the beginning of time. Many have a virgin birth due to his tricks. Take Thor half man half god

[@orangeblossom9279]

@@JoelPit so true. Watch America to Babylon, and truth unedited explains what you’re saying as well. In a Buddhist temple, there is a painting of Buddha, and if you ask the monks they will tell you that it’s a painting of a “demon” sitting above Buddha. It’s right in people’s faces, yet they still think “Christianity is the knock off”

[@orangeblossom9279]

@@JoelPit I also know that witches worship moon goddess SO MUCH, as well as how pagans worship the “sun god” and “moon goddess” all the same different variations. Same thing with the teachings in masonry. It’s all satanic.

[@JoelPit]

@@orangeblossom9279 I said this to a 3rd degree Mason boy was he mad I responded prove it wrong and I ll apologize well I haven't had to yet. That was 3 years ago

[@gabrielmullins3560]

“My brethren, let not many of you become teachers, knowing that we shall receive a stricter judgment.” Man, when this guy stands before God… what a terrifying thought.

[@TommyBowerscoasters]

AMEN!!

[@oopsgingermoment]

I naturally have concern about my own Judgement (as we all Christians ponder over when growing in our faith), but I would never want to be in that man's shoes.

[@christophergardiner5351]

And one thing we can definitely learn from this is that we can not become like God, but can become like this guy. We must all remember Mathew 23:12 "For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted."

[@octag8nn498]

Pray for him, pray for him; so he may realize his incorrect teachings. God guided us and WE ALL SHOULD know that he will lead our brothers and sisters. Don't worry, pray!

[@karenhall4645]

The sad thing is he may be the reason some people will reject salvation because he blatantly said we don't need it. Pray for him and his congregation to see the truth.

[@mrmcgowan]

"We all want progress. But if you're on the wrong road, then progress means making an about-turn and walking back to the right road. In that case, the man who turns back the soonest is the most progressive". - CS Lewis

[@Iustusxi]

Love CS lewis man

[@hannahrenee9870]

Mere christianity pretty much condensed 20 years of Sunday service in a single book.

[@brainman67]

just bought the book so great

[@davellien3734]

CS Lewis was right

[@auntiejen5376]

Excellent point!

[@EvaderGuy]

I’m most of the way through your video, and it seems to me that everything Sal has to say is to justify life as we want it and not living for God. I too had this moment of awakening some odd years ago the Lord stripped me down to where I had almost nothing. I was laying down in an empty bedroom, because I have no furniture, the bedroom was dark, because I had no lamps not even even a candle. At that moment he removed the scales from my eyes, so to speak, and I saw that this empty and dark room that I was lying down in was my life. Once I realized that, without reason, realizing it I, like Job, had an awakening when God offered me eternal and life, in Jesus. at 66 years old, I continue to learn and I am thankful for it and for teachers like yourself: God has given you a gift. I appreciate it. Over the years I have learned that I am as the epistles teach us, wretched man, and without Christ, I am nothing and can do nothing but through him all things are possible. I am in a very, very different place now than I was 25 years ago, and I still struggle with my “old nature end” I am so thankful to the Lord, for showing me what I was, and then what I could be through him, and most importantly, who he is. a wonderful savior we have! Thank you very much Pastor.

[@breakingcomedytv]

“If you really believe this-“ Mike:”-you’re a heretic” I love you Mike 😂😂😂

[@haileylindberg4365]

Right! Haha then he sips coffee

[@seanpecson2858]

Yeah that was so quick and witty. I thoguht i was the one to say that in my mind soemhow.... 😅

[@haileylindberg4365]

@@kevinschaefer3945 it was a funny moment. I was driving coffee as I watched this. So, it was funny mike reacted similar to how I did.

[@kevinschaefer3945]

@@haileylindberg4365 My bad. I will retract it. Please forgive me.

[@haileylindberg4365]

@@kevinschaefer3945 Of course! Online communication is weird. As an ex LDS I enjoy by coffee and pickling apart bad theology! I've been a Christian for 17 years praise God!!

[@alan.s5773]

EVERYBODY can avoid being misled by reading, studying the Bible & praying for discernment. Never solely rely on ANY pastor for your spiritual growth. No matter how nice he may seem or how many times he says Jesus's name.

[@sngnambi]

Amen to that!

[@magsd8300]

Amen!!

[@PearlPrinces100]

👏👏👏👏👏👏 well said Alan.

[@thisismonitor4099]

Fully agreed ... be a Berean. Amen

[@carnivoroushoneybee7862]

Amen. I always ask questions if I don't understand something. I've unintentionally stumped my pastor a couple times. But he has a humble spirit and we both go to the scripture and pray about. Pastors are people too and don't always know all the answers.

[@tennisrockstar1]

This scripture kept coming to mind as I was watching the video: “For the word of the cross is folly to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭1:18‬ ‭ESV‬‬

[@penponds]

Amen!

[@wynnetalker6581]

I'm just now seeing this video one year after you put it out. I am a conservative Christian with strong inner conflict with this theology. Nelville Goddard seems to have said some similar things. I do pray for Truth and have been reading the Bible more and more. Thank you for your videos.

[@bethl]

Keep studying!!

[@TrevorLeeMusic]

“It’s anti christ.” EXACTLY … it’s so hard to hear these false teachers. This must be how Paul felt hearing about the false teachings happening in his time. Thank you for continuing to open my eyes in order to encourage my strength in faith and knowledge of the word of God.

[@basedgod6016]

one of my favourite sayings is "if Saint Paul saw the state of the western churches today, we'd definitely be getting some letters" Interesting side note is that a lot of churches will probably read a letter like that if you send them one and a few here and there will take the criticisms on board especially if you have a scriptural/traditional basis for your claims, for example the youtuber "Redeemed Zoomer" is doing this exact thing with the Presbytarian Church in the US by sending them Martin Luther style emails with his complaints about the liberalism of the church and he's having a significant amount of success for one random university student, so if your church or one close to you is doing these things it's not out of the question to just channel your inner Paul and get writing

[@slightlyopinionated8107]

Paul was a false teacher though even Saint Peter opposed him

[@TrevorLeeMusic]

@@slightlyopinionated8107 cap.

[@TrevorLeeMusic]

@@basedgod6016 very interesting.

[@slightlyopinionated8107]

@@TrevorLeeMusic nope. This is what Paul says in Galatians 2:11-13. It continues until verse 21 but this is just to be brief 11 But when Peter came to Antioch, I had to oppose him to his face, for what he did was very wrong. 12 When he first arrived, he ate with the Gentile believers, who were not circumcised. But afterward, when some friends of James came, Peter wouldn’t eat with the Gentiles anymore. He was afraid of criticism from these people who insisted on the necessity of circumcision. 13 As a result, other Jewish believers followed Peter’s hypocrisy, and even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy.

[@rustusandroid]

"Old school Christianity is like nails on a chalkboard to progressives".. Well said. Wow, this was really disturbing. This is what happens when you interpret the scriptures without actually reading them.

[@melfuz]

Yes! 👏

[@chirho100]

Separation of the sheep and the goats, the wheat and the tares, we knew this day would come near at the end of the age.

[@anonymousone2843]

These kinds of thoughts and teachings is the "ear tickling" we were told of and warned of in the Scriptures. I am astonished at how MANY "Christians" follow such blasphemous and heretical theologies! I honestly never realized that until recently. Ever since I realized that, I have been praying for those who are being les astray open their Bibles and see what is going on. God Bless

[@rustusandroid]

@@anonymousone2843 Jesus said, "My sheep know my voice". So I would question the word "Christians" to describe people that would be enticed by this kind of theology.

[@kylemann3318]

Every clip of Sal sounds exactly like the serpent in the garden.

[@patticarey9016]

Exactly!

[@brianpendez5340]

And he basically says the same thing Satan said that you can "see as gods."

[@loveycat5474]

Isn't this the first sin of the Bible, to be God.

[@SandraS1397]

That's exactly what I thought. The serpent's lie.

[@SymphonyZach]

The devil never changes his strategies

[@st_cnncomes]

Christians all over the world must come together and support Pastor Mike and people like him in this noble cause of enlightening and clearing the doubts of millions around the world.

[@stephanieparsons1056]

There are so many false teachers. I can see how people who are lost and seeking God or new Christians can get so very confused

[@Adrea_lyxan]

The way he kept emphasizing “in *TODAYS* gospel” was really telling

[@puuxexil]

Yes, that kills me too... as if to insinuate something had expired, or was incorrectly translated.

[@rogerallen6644]

Amen!!

[@Hail_Full_of_Grace]

We were warned not to accept a new or different Gospel in the bible , 2 corinthians 11:4 - For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough. And Galatians 1:8 - But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!

[@hoyvin4099]

"A story retold for a modern audience"

[@las8883]

Very disturbing

[@warpaint9385]

Matthew 7:15 “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.”

[@manuelochoa9266]

Amen!

[@bechahb5688]

@@warpaint9385 This man is just straight up strutting his wolfness. He's not hiding!

[@agirlwithapurpose9529]

Less than one minute in and i am already in shock! How can he call himself a Christian?! This is insane!

[@afkcnd2395]

Here is the apostasy

[@lkae4]

Because Christianity has, for centuries, been a social club. That time is over.

[@lkae4]

@Fisher Man I said nothing about me. Please apologize and repent for your false assumptions and slander. Let's see what your church and gospel are about. 😉

[@CharlieKraken]

KL I am curious as to what you mean by this. Christianity is not a social club, it is a way of life wherein one submits themselves to God and His will. Now, I know there are and have been plenty of people who treat Christianity like a social club, but that is not true Christianity.

[@CharlieKraken]

KL Also, regarding your response to Fisher Man. Please understand that this is not an in-person discussion, it is extremely easy to misunderstand people when all you have is words on a screen. He was hasty in his response sure, but please understand that misunderstandings happen, and that it is better between us Christians to correct each other with patience and love, rather than being competitive and antagonistic towards each other. This goes for both "sides" of course.

[@jameskubasu7720]

God bless you Pastor Mike for having to endure watching these videos in order to teach us. My wife was literally hearing me shout "That's not what it means!" "How do you arrive at that?" "That's not how English works!" 😂 Keep up the great work

[@natalierodri]

“I’m not giving you new age mumbo jumbo”… except that’s exactly what you’re doing

[@CharlieKraken]

PandaBooty Praise God that He delivered you out of the new age cult! And I couldn't have put it better myself.

[@gigahorse1475]

He has a sermon on chakras and he says he’s not preaching new age? SMH

[@CourtneyBrimm]

And how the crowd just laughed ... Totally deceived.💔

[@tiffanycastillo929]

THE IRONY 😳

[@CharlieKraken]

This "pastor"'s insinuation that Jesus proclaiming Himself as God and as the only way to salvation is "narcissistic" is perhaps the most heretical part of his sorry excuse for a sermon. I absolutely hate how people view the Most High Absolutely Perfect Creator of All, God, proclaiming His authority as "narcissistic" or "tyrannical", yet believe that they themselves can redefine reality and the gospel as they see fit.

[@ih82r8]

Exactly

[@EllieGrace05]

"Jesus claiming he's God is soooo narcissistic! What he's actually saying is that *I'M* God. :)"

[@mahoneychris17]

His own interpretation of it is narcissistic, which completely baffles me. So he says narcissism is bad, yet his own belief is narcissistic by nature.

[@michaelsorensen7567]

That's in essence what cause the Pharisees to declare Jesus committed blaspheme. Nothing new under the sun.

[@KarenThompson-cg9lr]

Amen

[@mrmcgowan]

What you mentioned around 42:30 is exactly what happened to me. I was in a very progressive church and started reading the scriptures for myself. When I started noticing contradictions, I asked a bunch of questions which they could not or did not want to answer. That was a clear indication from the Holy Spirit that it was time for me to leave.

[@robertdouglas8895]

Look at what Mike does, too. He skips over what being reborn is, that we are spirit, not bodies and then goes to saying you must believe in Jesus...but believing in Jesus is to transform ourselves from bodies to spirit, not just saying we believe. When people inspect others lives and then laugh at them as Mike does, you can expect Mike to do what he is finding fault in the other guy for, that is skipping Scripture.

[@annettecastellanosguillen9491]

Bless you brother Michael

[@mechadoggy]

Can you tell us what kind of church you were in?

[@mrmcgowan]

@@mechadoggy UCC

[@mechadoggy]

@@mrmcgowan Ah, that makes a lot of sense. That was Obama’s denomination if I recall.

[@davidabhishek]

"i hope that helps and before we go you gotta see my cat" had me laughing lol from serious to cat all of a sudden and also this kinda stuff helps me alot clarifying peoples doubts when am evangelising on streets or school

[@faithharbour]

Honestly Mike, your patience is beyond admirable. I’d have been typing with my fists and doing lots of swears if I’d had to present this 😂

[@bigpapaT65]

I completely agree with you. Listening to charlatans like this knucklehead makes my skin crawl. It’s even worse when I realize that he actually believes the excrement he is peddling.

[@boxerspause]

It’s nice to know I am not alone😠. I was yelling at my iPad, ready to throw it across the room listening to that!

[@claudiapoe5292]

Well, I wouldn’t be cussing but I would definitely be praying and warning others.

[@andrews042]

Sometimes I wonder if that's exactly how "Rev Sal" would want you to react. Then he gets to call you a hater, and a bunch of other progressive epithets. Try to let the offense of true Christianity be the only offense they can prove. And Mike does it far better than I ever could.

[@claudiapoe5292]

@@andrews042 Andrew, thank you for your concern. I honestly don’t care what he thinks of me personally, but I do know that we have to draw a line somewhere. We have become so afraid of hurting someone’s feelings that we don’t stand up for what is right. I cannot control how someone reacts to a situation, but I can determine how much I can take before I draw a line in the sand. We are so nice that our beliefs are being eradicated from around the world, in our schools, and from our children. And I have been told by my own father that I am too nice. So I understand why we don’t react when others are mean to us. But there comes a time when someone has to say that this is wrong. When did we become such cowards? If we don’t stand up for our ideals, who will? It is the people who create the most noise that get attention. Not us who are afraid to offend. We don’t speak up for fear We don’t say anything thinking people won’t like us or will ostracize us, which many think is much worse. We want to get along with everyone. However, I have never followed the crowd or wanted to be part of a click. Since I was five years old, I have followed Jesus and Jesus alone. I thought that he was the best example for me to emulate and have never changed my mind. Nor, in my 66 years, have I ever met anyone who didn’t respect me for my choice. Taking a stance and not budging earns respect. They may never like you but they will respect your decision. Haters will hate. I have not and will never own that. Their response is their responsibility. I am not confrontational as a rule. I stand where I stand. They may walk around me but they can’t go through me. I will show compassion when it is due. Help when I can. But I don’t change my mind about Jesus. If speaking graciously doesn’t work, we will have to be more direct. I believe that this man has heard everything possible to refute his beliefs. He has chosen to denigrate everything associated with Christianity while still claiming to be a church of Christ. Do you honestly think that anything we have to say will change his mind? Only a miracle will redirect his path. He is so encased in Satan’s grasp that nothing short of Jesus himself will change his mind. I find him frightening. When I watched his video, it felt as if Satan himself was reaching out to crab everyone in sight. I have only felt that a few times in my life and never want to experience it again. I prayed for hours before I could go to sleep. This man is the embodiment of everything that Satan represents. He shrouds it in love and understanding. It is a beautiful garment that covers all the things that are perverted and rotting to the soul. It looks fantastic while it eats at you like acid. I honestly don’t think that what I say will ever effect him, but I pray that they may reach just one person to save them from his grasp. Thank you again for your intercession on my behalf. Claudia

[@gorillagaming9408]

Part of me is absolutely furious and the other part is full of sorrow. Clearly he is intentionally removing the importance of Jesus. Breaks my heart. Love you, Mike. Thanks for all you do. Your videos mirror what I can never find words for.

[@Amykinns1]

More of this!!! I was brainwashed into the New Age movement for 20+ years. God never stopped pursuing me and drew me out over the course of 3 years through his Grace. I finally saw Jesus almost a year ago and was baptized. Although I now can hear all the lies and evil in sermons like this and the way my old friends and mom talk, I don’t yet fully know how to intelligently discuss their misinterpretation!! It’s frustrating because I feel drawn to help get others out of that movement too because of what Jesus did for me. So thank you Pastor Mike for the education and clearly laying this out!!

[@agnesshaw7165]

I can relate…only It was 30+ years. There were many ‘nudges’ from the Holy Spirit before I became Born Again.

[@n0tn1kk17]

Sounds like you should get people out of New Age 😇 Do it Brother 😁 and check out Pastor Vlad and Isaiah Saldivar and Jon Ramirez 👈😇🙏🔥 some great Preaching there so enjoy and God Bless from Sunny England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🙏😇❤️‍🔥🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@CORY200011]

I understand how you feel I came to Christ 5 years ago and now I can see the error with what my family believe and ppl like them and all the false doctorate and false interpretation of Scripture and all the Pride when they don't wanna admit that they're wrong Some even tried to use the Bible scriptures to twist the word of God when I try to explain the Bible to them all you can do is pray for those people in your life if trying doesn't work Remember Jesus told us don't give what is holy to the dogs. Dogs back then where like Wolfs and if you try to get close to a wild Wolf it'll attack The same way if you try to explain God to people who don't care or get offended They'll get defensive and They'll just be on their guard and try to attack Jesus also told us don't cast your pearls before swine nothing's more priceless than scripture and wisdom about God but the same way you wouldn't give pearls or expensive jewelry to a pig because it wouldn't appreciate it The same way you can't try to force God to people who don't want to hear it. this doesn't mean don't try. Keep trying but if it's not working let God take it he can do more than you can

[@annbrucepineda8093]

We desperately need missionaries, people grounded in BiblIcal truth, in many parts of the USA. My ministry now is to my husband, who has Parkinson's, and my grandsons, but I praise the Lord for Mike's teaching. A Methodist pastor in Jonesboro, AR, whose progressive denominational authorities took away everything material they had, said recently that there are so many conservative Christians needing conservative pastors.Praise the Lord, our church in San Salvador has no denominational ties making us go woke.

[@tonypreston7278]

“It’s not about accepting Jesus as your personal Lord and savior.” Ok pal, explain John 14:6 then

[@servantofChrist3]

Exactly…🤦‍♂️ All I can say is, God bless him and everyone he is leading astray. 🙏

[@janiceharris9919]

Example of. Luke 21: 8 2 Cor 11: 14

[@OutrageouslyMoney]

I heard him say that and immediately thought “May God have mercy on that man’s soul.”

[@islandcave8738]

He's wrong, but so are you. Lordship salvation is works salvation. Mike Winger also is a false prophet who preaches works salvation but denies it. And non kjv modern perversions, goes hand and hand.

[@OutrageouslyMoney]

@@islandcave8738 I’ve never heard Mike preach any such nonsense. But, I haven’t watched everything he’s put out nor do I look to him for leadership.

[@johnhenry292]

We should all read our Bibles regularly and also pray for this man

[@kylermichael3972]

Good advice!

[@Vikingshop]

🙏 ⭐ We should ALL gather in our Homes ... ⭐ EVERY day in another Home .... studying the Bible, eating together, singing together and praying the Psalms of David 🙏 That would save us AND our children ⭐ 🙏

[@bostovall6243]

This is exactly how people like Joseph Smith rose to the level he did. People buy into false gospels all the time

[@rimanm6934]

@WTFW yeah and that why old jews was against that so much. And that why desire to be gods is prinal sin. Basicaly if there is no God than people are gods. Cause we are next in line to claim that since we are most powerful in solar system. ANd I believe in ancient times during so called god kings of Babylon, jews saw how suck it is, and how deluded those leaders are. That why in Jews laws basicaly even kings were seen as necesary evil, and when man claimed to be god it was most bigest sin. By belive in One True Abstract God they show that men cant be gods, and that also help to seprate church and state. Since those kings cant be head of church again and so they cant be god kings of old. Basicaly jews belive if people wont worship God they would worship those god kings, or god kings would force them to worhip themself. But idea of human are gods is so ridicolus and just prove of actully of God exist in a way: cause it cant be people are supreme existance in universe. Cause we so falwed, than how he can call ourself perfection. What are we dieng gods of dieng world? That just beyond stupidity by any logick. With all those idol worshiping and all those gokings who exist even in our times: North korea leaders forth people belive that they are gods. You start to beter understand comendment "Thou shalt have no other gods before me".

[@audimaster5000]

@@rimanm6934 When you mentioned flawed, it’s beyond most people’s imagination how true that is from a genetic standpoint. I encourage one to learn about the ways mutations and evolution is not at all survival of fittest, it’s just survival long enough for reproduction.

[@MrNirom1]

@WTFW How do you "think" Satan "knew" it from the beginning?

[@joshduthie3401]

@Azreth "I resent that you condemn Joseph Smith" Maybe you should stop resenting and start examining what Smith did, and how what he did was against scripture.

[@robertdouglas8895]

Look at what Mike does, too. He skips over what being reborn is, that we are spirit, not bodies and then goes to saying you must believe in Jesus...but believing in Jesus is to transform ourselves from bodies to spirit, not just saying we believe. When people inspect others lives and then laugh at them as Mike does, you can expect Mike to do what he is finding fault in the other guy for, that is skipping Scripture.

[@arcamusiclessons]

I love that you get to be alone with God in your room. Able to speak without being distracted. May God continue to teach you and speak to your heart. Thank you.

[@alyssakays367]

This poor guy has fallen for the oldest trick in the book. Genesis 3:4-5 But the serpent said to the woman, “You will not surely die. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

[@myrandomness304]

@Azreth Gen 3:22 says they have become like him, in that the knowledge of good and evil is a trait that God also has (and until that point only God had that knowledge), humans have it now to but that doesn't make them gods. In Ps 82 the context is that these are not actually gods because they "will die like mere mortals." God will exercise His authority over them. Then in John, Jesus is making the argument that if these people were referred to as gods than how much more does He, the One God sent into the world, deserve that title.

[@robertdouglas8895]

If you are created in the likeness of God, as God is, would you die? Look at what Mike does, too. He skips over what being reborn is, that we are spirit, not bodies and then goes to saying you must believe in Jesus...but believing in Jesus is to transform ourselves from bodies to spirit, not just saying we believe. When people inspect others lives and then laugh at them as Mike does, you can expect Mike to do what he is finding fault in the other guy for, that is skipping Scripture.

[@YouWhatMate_Official]

"You don't have to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior to be saved" That's like, LITERALLY anti-christ teaching. Unbelievable lies coming out of this generation

[@Moshugaani]

I can't believe the nerve this Salvatore guy has when he says that traditional Christians "misunderstand" the Bible, while he's the one who's brazenly abusing the Scriptures to support his "New Age" beliefs.

[@megakidicarus4647]

Gnosticism repackaged as "New Age."

[@razuhl9269]

That's the problem with all believing groups referring in any way to the bible, while butchering it.

[@Galloway278]

My former pastor said it every week. We’ve all been taught wrong but he knows the REAL interpretation.

[@Hearth123]

Thousands of years of scholarly study from many qualified teachers, but we needed him to tell us the true interpretation 😂

[@RainDropDrop22]

I know, the audacity of some people. He's also saying he knows the "real" meaning behind the bible than the apostles who wrote them themselves. I mean make it make sense.

[@GM-tu7di]

I can’t decide whether to laugh at this guy or cry that a building full of people are listening to him !!!

[@dansands6363]

12:22 "today's gospel" in other words... "hey let me just make this stuff up and present it as truth by calling it "today's" gospel." kinda ironic he talks about narcism a few words later.

[@SimonJSlou]

I don't care about what "Today's gospel" thinks of anything, what was the Gospel two-thousand years ago? That's what I care about. That's the Gospel of Jesus, it doesn't change.

[@danteb3949]

I watched the whole sermon. I'm fighting back tears because I literally feel like I was transported back into time and was ease dropping on satan's conversation with eve. This makes me believe the gospel even more. An older lady in my former church would describe this as -"The devil telling on himself"

[@benjaminhuygir2093]

Bingo... that's why he can claim that this isn't new theology. In fact, it's as old as Adam and Eve.

[@edwardlongfellow5819]

@Mike BMC Why is it constantly said that Satan tempted Eve when there is no mention of Satan in the Garden?

[@edwardlongfellow5819]

@Mike BMC What stories might they be? There is certainly no mention of Satan in the original garden story.

[@edwardlongfellow5819]

@Mike BMC I never made mention of a snake. And the identity of the figure called.Serpent is unknown.

[@edwardlongfellow5819]

@Mike BMC The Adam and Eve story is quite a silly, childlike ,story. But then perhaps its purpose was to indoctrinate a set of beliefs into the children of an ancient religion.

[@pastor-josh]

This "sermon" was one of the craziest intentional misinterpretations Scripture I have ever heard!

[@mlokole254]

The only good thing about it is that anyone who decided to take the bible and read for themselves and understands English will immediately see the lies! It doesn't take a theologian to see it

[@pastor-josh]

@@mlokole254 I agree. I much prefer this outlandish heresy than subtle heresy since it is so much easier to spot.

[@TIO540S1]

I had not been here before, and I’m not sure which set of bits in the algorithm got me here, but I’m glad to be here. But I can’t stop myself from mentioning that Mike Winger looks like Ryan George.

[@Moshugaani]

50:55 _"I'm not giving you New Age mumbo-jumbo here folks"_ > Proceeds to give you more of his New Age mumbo-jumbo.

[@goldenboy7819]

😂😂😂

[@KendraAndTheLaw]

He's a grifter, but how is he much different than the weird stuff you believe in?

[@Moshugaani]

@@KendraAndTheLaw The criticism here isn't that he believes in "weird stuff", but that he is dishonest. He is being deceptive in how he uses the Bible and how he presents his case.

[@itstriplem2069]

@@KendraAndTheLaw he's a heretic who crated his own belief from his huge misunderstanding of the Bible. Thats the difference

[@autobotstarscream765]

@@Moshugaani It's not dishonesty if he's honestly that stupid! 😂

[@melissiaeachusmast1614]

My stomach turns listening to this "minister "...but my hear breaks for those blindly following him. Thank you for your work!

[@jackiedunn9404]

That's why they need to read the Bible for themselves

[@sheenadavis5378]

He's not a minister, priest, preacher he's a man of Satan.

[@donna3675]

The people following him Sunday after Sunday after Sunday, WANT to be lied to. They don’t want the truth, they want to skirt the truth…it’s easier than facing Sin. Hopefully they will hear someone who preaches The Word.

[@bradymiddleton2056]

Literally, laying awake feeling the same way. Stomach turning.

[@beanieleedy]

This is what the worldwide religion will look like in the future.

[@barrjensen]

That’s what I was thinking!

[@ReadersOfTheApocalypse]

I'm not sure if it will be THAT crazy... but who knows 😁

[@marvalice3455]

nah. this is whatthe elites want it to look like, but this has no meat. it cannot survive against religions with millennia of momentum

[@Psa22-6]

Nah itll be focused on one man

[@lindajohnson4204]

Most likely!

[@stephenpayson597]

Pastor Mike, I’m so grateful for your videos, and this one, in particular. After 2 years of being a pastor in the U.C.C., the Lord was pleased to save me and bring me to the truth of the gospel and make me his own. Notice the commas on this “pastor’s” stole: The motto of the U.C.C. is “God is still speaking” and they famously quote “Gracie Allen” as the prophetess of their theology: “Never place a period where God has placed a comma.” So this is where this deluded theology ends up-and this man is just one among many in this dying denomination that is preaching the same or similar falsehood. He is also taking his theology from another heretical Christian and false teacher, Matthew Fox, and his book, “The Coming of the Cosmic Christ.” At any rate, I will keep my “limited” faith in the Christ of Scripture, who saves sinners from perishing under the righteous judgment of God. I’m so grateful for your having taken the time to expose this false teacher and your ongoing work in apologetics.

[@freeschmidt]

I'm adopted, and I love it so much that God adopts people.

[@JohnSmith-cf4gn]

Yes, God adopted me when Jesus saved me and I was born again back in 61.

[@justinharrell327]

“But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.” ‭‭Galatians‬ ‭1:8-9‬ ‭ESV‬‬

[@monicaalba1127]

Yes, and he literally said that the traditional (and, um, REAL) Jesus-centered gospel "is not today's gospel", probably implying that we understand the gospel more than before, but what a significant Freudian slip it actually is. This man is scary. Satan telling Adam and Eve, "your eyes will be opened and you will be like God" (Gen. 3:5) is pretty much the mold for this guy's "gospel"; what an abomination. The idea of this supposed awakening to our own divinity by reinterpreting God's word while disobeying what He actually commanded us to do... is eerily familiar. How did that turn up for Adam and Eve and the rest of us?

[@TommyBowerscoasters]

@@monicaalba1127 Amen! Well stated!

[@christopherwebb3517]

His sermons are clearly depended on his audience not reading any of the Bible for themselves, and just taking his word for it. Anyone who has glanced over the Bible more than a couple times would immediately see the red flags pop up.

[@Theohybrid]

Fair but isn't that also true for churches today? They depend on the pastor to interpret the Bible in sermons and messages. The Bible has si much treasure to unpack but i understand why people rely on pastors because it can be a lot to handle and seems almost intimidating to start the search.

[@gerardjayetileke4373]

To be fair, modern Christianity in general is pretty much dependent on people not reading their Bibles for themselves.

[@davidryan8547]

Or those who read it but have poor reading comprehension.

[@DaisukiJesus]

No one reads the Bible in America.

[@daryljohnson6333]

I was fully on board with all of this for decades. I left my Lutheran church to find answers. I looked through all of the isms. Ultimately I saw all of these quests for the perfection of the personal self as a Luciferian project and ultimately evil. It is a deception that traps the well meaning seeker. I will say it’s a massive amount of work to try and take yourself on and make yourself perfect. It is a mess of confusion, of astral perception, intuition development, personal questing, self-development courses and books, amorphous belief systems and pop new-age psychology. The confusion is the source of the identity. Our personal selves are not Gods. Only God and Christ in us is God. We must do the opposite of what these New Age teachers profess of perfecting the personal self, we must see the personal self as perpetually imperfect and flawed, and only in relationship with God can we find wholeness.

[@shannarajohnson-pp8bs]

I was a New Ager and deeply into the Law of Attraction. I even taught how to "manifest your own reality." I too was convinced that Jesus said we were gods and would do even greater things than he. It took a long time and a major wakeup call to realize that this kind of teaching would land me in hell. "Progressive Christianity" is a misnomer because what it actually is, is "Satanism lite." It's the exact same pride-filled seduction that the serpent whispered into Eve's ear in the Garden. The devil isn't really creative; he's been repeating the same lie for millennia: Do this, and you can be like God. Time is running out to play around; the time is here to choose sides. There's no more time for lukewarmness and a non-committal attitude. You're either on God's side or on Satan's side-there is no middle ground.

[@arthurserino2254]

Lutheranism is basically Catholicism Lite. It suffers from many of the same problems, and only remedies the ones Martin himself couldn't stomach.

[@eatmorebacon5184]

If anything, I feel sorry for and pray for this man's congregation. They are fully being led astray by him.

[@victoriahebert3073]

There are so many false teachers and the Bible says in the last days even the Elect can be fooled! Most is twisted scripture based feel good teachers! Cultists take a verse and give it their own spin. Whole false religions are formed this way. This is why Mormons add Books and J W's have their own Bible written to twist God's Word!!! So sad, many thousands deceived!

[@woodand]

Pray for them by all means , but dont feel sorry for them. They are there because they have rejected the truth and find this heresy appealing to their degenerate lifestyles.

[@robertdouglas8895]

Look at what Mike does, too. He skips over what being reborn is, that we are spirit, not bodies and then goes to saying you must believe in Jesus...but believing in Jesus is to transform ourselves from bodies to spirit, not just saying we believe. When people inspect others lives and then laugh at them as Mike does, you can expect Mike to do what he is finding fault in the other guy for, that is skipping Scripture.

[@paulallen7962]

@@victoriahebert3073 How do you know your beliefs about God are correct? It seems like merely a coincidence that you believe what you do. If you would have been born in Iran you would be praying to Allah 5 times a day. If you would have been born before the Bible was written you would have been polytheistic. If you would have been born before the Reformation you would have been confessing to the priest. If you were born in Israel you wouldn't believe Jesus is the messiah. If you look at human history, very few people have been given the truth that you claim.

[@droe2570]

@@victoriahebert3073 "There are so many false teachers and the Bible says in the last days even the Elect can be fooled!" "For false christs and false prophets will arise and will provide great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect." Matt. 24: 24 Jesus does not say the elect will be deceived, He says that we would be deceived if that were possible. He's saying that the lies will be so convincing, that only those who do not know the truth will be deceived.

[@FaithInExile]

You could have a whole channel of just watching sermons and calling out the heretical doctrines. I'd be hooked. Its so nice to see someone who is able to think critically and honestly apply scripture for corrective purposes. Good stuff! The world needs more of this! The amount of false teachers out there is overwhelming! And to be fair, we were warned this would happen.

[@FleagleSangria]

It is a good thing to expose this, but even a better practice is to learn the bible, learn truth. And then when these liars and twisters come before you, truth will be in you and you will be able to determine the truth from the false. We dont need to know every fake dollar bill to be aware of the truth. We simply need to know what a real dollar bill looks like, then when the fake appears we spot it right away. We need to pray, read our Bibles, ask God to reveal truth and to lead us to teachers and preachers who teach and preach truth.

[@blakehug]

It really comes down to worldview. Do you view the Bible through the lens of the world/your experience? Or do you view the world through the lens of the Bible? This first is progressive and leads to hell, the second leads to to God.

[@billbradleymusic]

That would be nearly if not completely fruitless. You should think on that.

[@nitrobitde2609]

@@FleagleSangria Nice comparison with the dollar bills

[@kimberlyannministries2022]

amen amen Naomi

[@melissastone6971]

*My pastor literally just preached this same message and said that we are Gods. As I laid in my hospital bed my heart sunk. I wouldn’t even know where to begin to speak to him about the error he spewed out. I am so saddened. It’s amazing that God allowed this vid to be made so swiftly addressing this issue as well as my heart.*

[@GuitarJesse7]

I’m sorry, it is so hard when our spiritual leaders fail us or deceive us. Sounds like God wanted to let you know he’s with you through this (by the timing of Mike posting this video). Praying for you and the false teacher that used to be your pastor.

[@John14-6...]

I hope and pray you find a better church home with a pastor that preaches God's word without compromise. I also pray that whatever you are in the hospital for you have a speedy recovery

[@wlknonsonshine]

Hope you get well soon. As with your pastor...there probably has been other things going on that you didn't see. Cognitive dissonance is a hard pill to swallow.

[@JoelPit]

I've walked out of Church because of things like this.

[@danstewart3319]

Run!

[@Animemes4471]

I listen to these while i work. Thank you for what you do. Give your kitty some scritchies for me. God bless you

[@geetee1539]

I used to be into ‘new age’ and occult 20 years ago. This sermon is 100% exactly what I was taught about back then. The idea that we were all ‘gods’ was the reason given for our psychic abilities and healing abilities (reiki etc). I think if you dug into the past of the pastor or pastors giving these sermons you will find direct links to new age and occult. There is no other explanation.

[@thatoneperson401]

Do you think he wandered his way to the snake yoga? He sounds like a teacher I had in high school, she just didn't try to use Christian lingo

[@chazzitz-wh4ly]

Had a anti-theist friend who dove into the occult and satanic stuff, we often spoke about progressive politics and religion. The whole “progressive” thing is just a pretty packaging for Luciferian teachings. As I observe pop culture, politics, and society I see we begin to spiral into such evil deeds under the guise of self satisfaction, self worship, and happiness.

[@makeda6530]

I always feel some type of way when those who believe in respecting pronouns ALWAYS question God's gender like He doesn't CONSTANTLY refer to HIMSELF as MALE! Lord have mercy. Did h-he just... Did he just say Jesus was a narcissist? I don't know if I can get through this.

[@marvalice3455]

yup. or rather, he claimed the traditional reading of the text makes him one.

[@ceasedesist9676]

I fail to understand them at all. If I claim I am the most powerful and it's true, it can never be a boast. A boast asserts something that is not true, how the hell is a statement of truth a narcissistic boast?

[@marvalice3455]

@@ceasedesist9676 it's not about consistency, it's about hating the gospel in new and creative ways

[@katherineandjelkovich5361]

I laughed out loud when the progressive guy said "I'm not giving you new age mumbo jumbo, folks" 🤣 Yeah you are.

[@ademisc]

except that there is nothing at all "new" about it; he definitely is though

[@ademisc]

@TheRepentingPart Correct. This is essentially my point. Despite featuring the word "new," it is not that.

[@thomassandoval8025]

Said while wearing a new age vestment...

[@roman_kofyno]

Funny, it "almost" looks like he fully don´t understand what everything New Age is (and that there is nothing new about it).

[@JesusElReyDereyes]

I am 64 years of age; so, during my youth, there were plenty of printed resources to study the Bible. Loved the congregation I grew up at, particularly for the kind of pastor we had. He was a faithful servant of the Lord and very dedicated to preach God’s Word faithfully. He always treated the Scripture with reverence. He also said numerous times that, as much time as he spent teaching us God’s Word (Acts 20:27), he challenged us to be like the Berean Jews, who examined the scriptures available to them to judge whether the Apostle Paul was speaking from the Scriptures or out of his own intellect and biases. Now, more than ever, there’s no excuse to remain ignorant in regards to knowing God’s Word, for there are a ginormous amount of resources available to all… whether printed, video-graphic, audio-phonic, or digital. Therefore, one of the essential duties of a pastor is, “to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ.” -Ephesians 4:11, 12. Regrettably, many pastors, teachers, evangelists are failing miserably in that area! Moreover, is is the duty of every true Christian to earnestly study their Bibles as in 2 Timothy 2:15, “Give diligence to present yourself approved by God, a workman who doesn’t need to be ashamed, PROPERLY HANDLING THE WORD OF TRUTH.” (emphasis mine). But, now we are being witnesses to a growing number of congregations whose supposed spiritual leaders are misinterpreting the Scriptures, which is a blasphemy to God, and they do it to fit their personal aberrant lifestyle and agendas. And what we see is a vicious, evil circle of false ministers leading the congregations, while their “Christians” shower their preacher with their limited earnings. You don’t see them following the instructions of Gods Word, but as I mentioned before, doctrines of demons. The members also are after money themselves, and because of that, they follows the false gospel financial affluence, rather than salvation of the soul through. Christ!. That will lead them to hell if they do not repent and turn away from the sin of avarice! Sad to say, but, those church members consent with their applause whatever lies, whatever blasphemies such a condemned ministers of darkness feed the ignorance of the congregants! One final comment: there should not be any doubt that, any “spiritual leader” who explain the Bible in direct opposition to its true message, is NOT a Christian, but is a false teacher! God Himself would no allow any of his ministers to preach, or teach falsehood; for such a contradiction is identified as “doctrines of demons”. 1 Timothy 4:1 teaches, “But the Spirit says expressly that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons…” To every single Christian who has been truly redeemed by the blood of the Lamb, understands this!

[@ChristinewithaC]

It’s so sad to see a congregation of people sitting there and soaking in his blasphemous heresy as truth! 💔

[@sweetgirl1963]

Yes, there is nothing more frightening than hearing someone reduce the Gospel to some sort of "get out of jail free" card for everyone. It is sad because this man will be responsible for dragging others down with him. Heartbreaking.

[@slavetochrist-stc9590]

Satan, who do you want to be for Halloween? Satan: This guy!

[@bornagainspirit]

Satan already had him.

[@barrjensen]

Satan dressing up as a progressive Christian...that’s what he’s doing in most churches today!

[@RUT812]

@@barrjensen Have you been to most churches?

[@AChippendale]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@DrewJacobson61]

👍👍👍

[@Moshugaani]

_"It's almost like a low quality conspiracy theory about religion"_ Woah! That's the best low-key diss I've heard in a long while! :D

[@jaguar5455]

Thank you Pastor Mike!! I’m so thankful I discovered your ministry😇

[@arthurserino2254]

Mike Winger isn't a pastor, he's a social media influencer. If he's a clergyman, then Jeffery Dahmer was a chef.

[@charlestatum2511]

“But what about you?” Jesus asked. “Who do you say I am?” Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah! For this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by My Father in heaven.… (Matthew 16:15-17)

[@gabrielmullins3560]

You basically have to contort each verse and then ignore all the other verses to equate the Bible and progressiveness. I don’t understand why they’re not just honest and admit they don’t believe the Bible but that they just want to believe whatever they want. It’s like they want to make themselves God but bring the Bible with them. So deceived.

[@GladysRWhite]

Psalm 82:6 I have said, 'You are gods; you are all sons of the Most High.' John 10:34 34 Jesus replied, “Is it not written in your Law: ‘I have said you are gods’? 35If he called them gods to whom the word of God came- and the Scripture cannot be broken- 36then what about the One whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world? How then can you accuse Me of blasphemy for stating that I am the Son of God?… Only if we are - as body - connected to our Godhead Yeshua, only if we are receiving fresh revelation (Bread) from Him, this is so. ON OUR OWN, WE ARE NOTHING but dust!

[@edwardlongfellow5819]

Charles Tatum The apostle Peter soon changed his mind about Jesus when challenged for did he not deny Jesus 3 times?

[@charlestatum2511]

@@edwardlongfellow5819 He did indeed, but then went on to become a leader of the church and the writer of epistles that re-affirmed his original statement, which Jesus himself affirmed.

[@charlestatum2511]

@@GladysRWhite We have to be very careful reading Psalm 82:6. This Psalm is written to judges in Israel, and the word “elohim” is used for the word “judge” as it is also used for “God”. 82:7 continues “but you shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.”. This would strike against the idea that men of any kind are gods. This Psalm remonstrates judges for misusing their power over life and death, judging those under their authority unjustly.

[@MollyPitcher1778]

The devil will never approach you in a red suit carrying a pitchfork (unless he wants to scare you). He will approach you with a soft voice and a smile and tell you what you want to hear.

[@shannarajohnson-pp8bs]

100%

[@lachydragneel]

@@MollyPitcher1778 the wounds of a friend is faithful but the kisses of the enemies are deceitful

[@littlerascaleventing]

Him: "You are gods." Mike: "You're a heretic." Yeah this is gonna be a good one XD

[@leftisland2603]

I thought he said you are God's, not Gods.

[@littlerascaleventing]

@@leftisland2603 There is a possibility that that's what he meant, however, in the context of the rest of the sermon, and this guy's views, I doubt it.

[@aredpandahREAL]

Not sure if the guy(the progessive Pastor) was refering to this verse “Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken), do you say of Him whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’? If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me; but if I do, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, that you may know and believe that the Father is in Me, and I in Him.”” ‭‭John‬ ‭10:34-38‬ ‭NKJV‬‬. Or “I said, “You are gods, And all of you are children of the Most High.” ‭‭Psalms‬ ‭82:6‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ But the rest of things he said was bad pizza because you do need Jesus Christ in your live to be saved.

[@McBabe6119]

1:14 your sip of coffee as he says “you will experience salvation” 👀😂

[@jukeboxhero30]

Heresy. Complete heresy from this "pastor". And its so sad and frustrating to think that people eat this "preaching" up. I know some "Christians" I once called friends who would LOVE this stuff. Thank you Pastor Mike for turning the lights on and dissecting this false teachers lies. Your ministry is a huge blessing 🙏🙏🙏

[@jukeboxhero30]

@Fisher Man Facts. And sadly, even those who would call themselves saved are drifting more towards the "feel good" gospel

[@lindajohnson4204]

@Fisher Man He's doing his "best" to get rid of the gospel!

[@jesussaves6625]

People want an excuse to be on God's side, while also being on the side of the world.

[@jukeboxhero30]

@@jesussaves6625 facts. And they never realize you can't have it both ways.

[@terribryan5087]

I grew up in a UCC church, starting in 1975 until I heard the Gospel FOR THE FIRST TIME at college in 1983. Never heard the Gospel even once at the UCC building. Can't imagine any place more liberal that still calls its teaching Christian.

[@averyhaughwout3697]

Me and my mother used to attend the UCC, Thank Christ we left because idk where I’d be at spiritually if we had stayed

[@Lwhite1962]

Most UU churches are anti Christian these days.

[@Toetalwar]

the ucc cares more about the UN than the Gospel

[@terribryan5087]

@@Lwhite1962 UU is different than UCC

[@mechadoggy]

@@Lwhite1962 UCC is United Church of Christ (Obama’s denomination). UU is Unitarian Universalist.

[@bigreb601]

I know that my soul is on the right path when I feel deep in my soul a revolt against this man’s words.

[@osmoregulatoryorgan]

righteous anger is good anger.

[@RockyTopSplash]

Exactly!! The true Holy Spirit will direct once you truly accept Jesus. Do not ignore that

[@the101stpatriot]

My soul absolutely SCREAMING. Look how evil his eyes are. This is the point where my bothers and sisters get upset with me because I have 0 patience for this kind of thing. Scripture tells us to have love and pray for our enemies, problem is, those "enemies" mentioned are mortal men in respect to war and conflict. When you have someone who claims to be a preacher and a Christian, then says this type of stuff.... debate, biblical correction, conversation stops. There is no conversation to be had. That man and the Brandon guy are actual evil. The damage they will cause to our actual brothers and sisters is rarely recovered. That guy and the Brandon guy are demonic control level evil. They are very lucky to live in America, so use your imagination.

[@chazzitz-wh4ly]

This rubs me the wrong way. It scares me because these false teachers are trying to break apart the flock, it’s like staring into the eyes of a wolf waiting to pounce. It is highly concerning.

[@jhunter443]

Interesting point. My eight year old watch this with me and while I felt that same feeling in my soul my son jumped to his feet and asked Daddy what is that guy saying. That was the little excerpt in the first minute. Those who know the true Word immediately feel the horror of preaching like this. Sure serves to strengthen my faith while this false prophet sought to do the opposite.

[@paulsonderegger7856]

I know this not sound good but John is actually speaking here from 3:14-21. I know it's in red but it shouldn't be. It's still the word of God. these are things my Greek teacher taught me in college.

[@mariar2081]

I can’t believe he just said that salvation is not about accepting Jesus as your Savior!!!!! WHAT?!!!!

[@teefx5681]

That's according to the bible, when Jesus was asked about the salvation he said the only way is to follow the law and give charity nothing mentioned about accepting him. The problem you have now as a christian there is no law in your religion hence the bible also says when jesus return he will tell the Christians move away from me you evildoers I did not know you.

[@gypsygaming9530]

@@teefx5681 Jesus says I am the way the truth and the life and John 316

[@gypsygaming9530]

@@teefx5681 “Jesus told her, “Your brother will rise again.” “Yes,” Martha said, “he will rise when everyone else rises, at the last day.” Jesus told her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Anyone who believes in me will live, even after dying. Everyone who lives in me and believes in me will never ever die. Do you believe this, Martha?” “Yes, Lord,” she told him. “I have always believed you are the Messiah, the Son of God, the one who has come into the world from God.”” ‭‭John‬ ‭11:23-27‬ ‭NLT‬‬

[@teefx5681]

@@gypsygaming9530 exactly so he's not god you just proved my point. He said the zonly true God is the father in heaven.

[@gypsygaming9530]

@@teefx5681 and the laws written on our hearts

[@lellyt2372]

This guy reminds me of when I would explain something to my kids when they were toddlers and then a few days later, they are explaining it themselves. They get EVERYTHING wrong and backwards and cross ways and upside down, they add their own analogies that are completely wrong but they are so darn PROUD of themselves because it makes them feel SO good and happy inside ! When my kids did it, I would generally smile and think they were so sweet. Then again, they were not leading me and 1000's of others away from the Saviour and straight into hell !

[@yumafighter24]

Listening to him literally hurts, how can he say that with a straight face?

[@sandracopenhaver3230]

I saw a sign on a church that said "Jesus loves you so much that he would want you to stay exactly as you are."

[@Utoobeh4tesfreespeech]

And that's how you know they've never read a lick of actual Scripture.

[@loveycat5474]

Jesus said "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

[@cassiefriedman8685]

100% TRUE

[@thepurpletree8021]

Every time he said, “today’s gospel” I flinched.

[@jesusisunstoppable4438]

I looked at your channel and flinched when I didn't see any Christian Vids. What happend ?

[@slidymctuesday5711]

I think he meant the gospel reading for that particular day. Most churches operate on a lectionary calendar.

[@filmfan4]

“For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions,” ‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭4:3‬

[@annonimouse170]

Thank you for your ministry Mike *waves from across 'The Pond'*

[@takingupmycross9869]

This guy sounds like he's teaching a Course in Miracles, also brought to you by Oprah. It has similar language, but has an entirely different meaning. Lord, please give new believers discernment to see the difference and cling to the genuine.

[@IDidntKnow...]

O my, don't even get me started on Oprah. lol

[@StageWatcher]

"You are gods!" Me reading the beginning of the beginning of the Bible: Yeah, that doesn't sound familiar at aaaaaall.

[@GladysRWhite]

Psalm 82:6 I have said, 'You are gods; you are all sons of the Most High.' John 10:34 34 Jesus replied, “Is it not written in your Law: ‘I have said you are gods’? 35If he called them gods to whom the word of God came- and the Scripture cannot be broken- 36then what about the One whom the Father sanctified and sent into the world? How then can you accuse Me of blasphemy for stating that I am the Son of God?… Only if we are - as body - connected to our Godhead, Yeshua/Jesus, only if we are receiving fresh revelation (Bread) from Him, this is so. ON OUR OWN, WE ARE NOTHING but dust!

[@danpozzi3307]

@@GladysRWhite It’s a short psalm, I suggest you read the whole thing: Ps 82:5 “The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing. They walk about in darkness; all the foundations of the earth are shaken. 6 “I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’ 7 But you will die like mere mortals; you will fall like every other ruler.” 8 Rise up, O God, judge the earth, for all the nations are your inheritance.

[@andrewlongo689]

Mike, thank you for the work you’ve done exposing this kind of “progressive Christianity”. And I’m thankful to God I found your channel. I had myself been coming way too close to this sort of outlook to Christianity, especially the last couple of years when I had been grappling with my faith and social issues. We can’t compromise Biblical truth to appease the world. These heresies need to be called out.

[@aprilgarcia5015]

I like how he say again and again, "In today's gospel...."

[@SereneSoakingSounds]

I felt ill to my stomach. Physically sick hearing that preacher it was sicking to know just how horrible what he was saying actually is. Let us pray for all those who have been mislead by false teachers like this. 💖Great coverage on this💖

[@libertyandjustus8258]

In know what you're saying ! I physically felt ill listening to Sal . Especially during the first few clips. It was so unbelievable! I'm so glad that Pastor Mike brought us through it bit by bit. And helped us unravel this ungodly display of heresy. I've heard and seen alot but this really tops probably anything I've ever heard. Yikes!

[@SereneSoakingSounds]

@@libertyandjustus8258 I agree 100 percent I actually felt my stomach turn like my body was rejecting the harrisey. That man (Sal) needs deliverance from whatever evil / wicked thing has a hold of him. It is this exact thing that the Bible warns us about, the false teachers have much to fear on the day of judgment. It is just So painful to know this man is self distrusting and leading so many astray with his false teaxhings. I agree we are blessed to have a real preacher to help debunk the false teachings. The thought even crossed my mind to copy a link to this video and leave it on this Sal characters page but I can't bring myself to look him up, it's just too awful I don't even want to read the titles on his page. Praise the Lord that we know better and are focused on the true Word of God. - God bless you 💗

[@s.i.williams2876]

Amen!! "The gates of Hades will not overcome the church of Christ". Thanks for your teachings Pastor Mike. This is very helpful. You are such a blessing.

[@mayakinneysteachings2315]

When he says “Jesus isn’t the only way” My reaction :000000

[@WellTaughtProf]

I used to fail wrapping my mind around the prophesy about one world religion, and here it is in the flesh 🤷 "Jesus isn't the only way to salvation". If it's not Jesus then what are we supposed to be saved from??? 🤷

[@DavidMathis-xk6cw]

Great job Mike! Jesus said "Without Me, you can do nothing." It's all about Him! Question: In 2 Peter 1 Peter says we become partakers of the Divine nature. I have understood this to mean that our new nature is Christ's righteousness and so I should live as Jesus would live in my circumstances. I have likened this to having His nature in voltage but not in amperage. Is that a valid illustration?