How an RC Model Jet Turbine Works

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4 жыл бұрын

In this video we take a trip down the path of air through a jet turbine. Jet turbines are one of the most incredible engines made to this day. In such a simple design, one can extract a ton of power with simplicity. Here we look how model jet turbines work.
Most model Jet turbines can operate on one of three different types of fuels. These fuels are Jet A, Kerosene or Diesel. All of these fuels come from the same family and share very similar properties. There are advantages and disadvantages of using each type. Mixed with the fuel is a turbine oil. The oil mixed with this fuel helps with lubrication and cooling.
Model Jet turbines follow the conventional 4 stroke engine principles. This is where you have intake, compression, combustion and lastly exhaust. The biggest difference is that all 4 of these cycles are happening continuously.
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In the video a spark plug was said to fire the initial flame. However, an igniter would be the most correct term. In the turbine shown a ceramic igniter is used.
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@RTD1947
@RTD1947 4 жыл бұрын
Finally an explanation!!! Thanks
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@gavinwilkins5466
@gavinwilkins5466 4 жыл бұрын
These model turbines do not have a spark plug they have a glow plug also known as a burner during the start sequence the burner turns on and a fine amount of fuel is sprayed onto it because the element is glowing hot the fuel flashes off and ignites then as the engine temperature and RPM comes up to a defined setting in the ecu the main fuel line is opened adding more kerosene to the engine at the same time the starter motor increases it's speed turning the rotor assembly up to about 20000 RPM before diengaging the engine is now self-sustaining and will ramp to idle depending on the engine anywhere from 30000 to 45000 RPM
@jacobokpara7618
@jacobokpara7618 4 жыл бұрын
You actually answered the question I came looking for. He didn't mention the rmp needed at starting to get to self sustain. Thank you so much. BTW noob question, the glow plug is it automated? . Does it glow on its own or is it attached to some electronics which I don't think so. I checked KZbin and there seems to be no explanation on how the glow plug works. Thank you so much sir.
@andrewmattox1233
@andrewmattox1233 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacobokpara7618, I'm a bit late to answer your question. But Glow Plugs are used in a lot of RC engines. Some electrical current is passed into them, and they heat up. After the engine is "self sustaining", the glow plug will continue to be hot, (even without more electrical current). In the case of smaller piston RC 2-stroke engines, the glow plug continues to serve as a point of ignition (once the pressure increases enough) Fuel Air Mixture + Pressure + Temperature of Glow Plug = Combustion For the RC piston engines I have, a separate "Glow Plug heater", is clipped onto the top of the engine. It is just a battery, and the top of the glow plug completes the circuit and heats up. Once the engine is running. the Glow Plug heater, is removed. And the engine runs on its own. ^for the piston engines. In the turbine, it may serve as a way to restore ignition (should the flame go out). But with turbines, there should be a continuous moving flame in the combustion area. So I don't think the glow plug would really need to do anything else after the start up phase.
@pepepopo6415
@pepepopo6415 Жыл бұрын
​@@andrewmattox1233 the real question is where to put the glow plugs i dont understand
@DaveZotzman
@DaveZotzman 5 ай бұрын
@@pepepopo6415 the glow plug used to be a traditional plug screwed in from outside the turbine. Most have an internal glow plug now.
@josephososkie3029
@josephososkie3029 3 жыл бұрын
Back in 1960 my brother was majoring in aeronautical engineering. He’d bring home trade magazines and I was disappointed in that most of the ads involved weren’t cool airfoils but competing ball bearing companies, stating size and various tolerances. Borrring!.....but NOW it makes sense.
@paulpaulsen7777
@paulpaulsen7777 3 жыл бұрын
Best explanation I‘ve ever seen and heard. Great 👍 Thank you 🙏
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you!
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
Haha that would be awesome and bright.
@suryans2653
@suryans2653 3 жыл бұрын
No one could explain like u... thanks!
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment SURYAN NASA!
@friedlhochhaeuser6707
@friedlhochhaeuser6707 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for such a great and professional explanation!
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@HolaACchillin
@HolaACchillin 3 жыл бұрын
This was very helpful. Very interesting 🤔
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@casemotube
@casemotube Жыл бұрын
First off: I DO NOT KNOW DOOLY SQUAT ABOUT GAS TURBINES, but I do know enough about physics to get myself in trouble. That being said: the instant you began to talk about the “flow” of air in a linear motion (which is a fluid), the Bernoulli Principle was brought to mind. In fluid dynamics, Bernoulli's principle states that an increase in the speed of a fluid occurs simultaneously with a decrease in pressure or a decrease in the fluid's potential energy. (Googled.) Food for thought when designing your systems. ‪Thank you for your time on this matter.‬ ‪Peace ✌🏻
@decorahomeimprovements3705
@decorahomeimprovements3705 3 жыл бұрын
U r a very impressive important part of our RC World.. thank you
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome comment!
@lorriecarrel9962
@lorriecarrel9962 3 жыл бұрын
The best I've seen on how it works,good job
@muhammedeminural3333
@muhammedeminural3333 3 жыл бұрын
You sir, are literally the best!
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
That is debatable but do Appreciate the comment Muhammed!
@adventuresinhousesitting
@adventuresinhousesitting 3 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained come on Ryan, he has a point 👍
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 2 жыл бұрын
It's a turbine engine, not a "turbine jet" or just a "turbine". It _contains_ a turbine, but the if you must use one word for the whole thing, try "turbojet" or "engine" depending on context. Thrust doesn't come out of the nozzle - *gas* flows out of the nozzle faster than it flowed into the intake, causing thrust in reaction. The centrifugal compressor impeller changes the flow from axial to *radial* (rather than "centrifugal")... and more importantly adds lots of speed.
@mprior108
@mprior108 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect explanation and wonderful visual aids. Nice work
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment M Prior!
@leokimvideo
@leokimvideo 3 жыл бұрын
It's basically a gas powered Dyson
@myobboy9973
@myobboy9973 3 жыл бұрын
You are spot on, Dyson understands more about high velocity and high acceleration (1000g +) gas flow than anyone left working at NASA.
@manitoba-op4jx
@manitoba-op4jx 7 ай бұрын
@@myobboy9973they also mastered making high performance plastic junk that can't be repaired
@TuongNguyen-ep5eo
@TuongNguyen-ep5eo 4 жыл бұрын
thank you very much for the video sir !
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
Most welcome!
@fernandohood5542
@fernandohood5542 4 жыл бұрын
Yeap finally a proper explanation.
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Fernando.
@laurenthili393
@laurenthili393 3 жыл бұрын
Exellent explanation thanks ;-)
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment, glad the video helped.
@republicoftutorials6068
@republicoftutorials6068 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation Thank you
@TeamRCHyderabad
@TeamRCHyderabad 3 жыл бұрын
Nice and easy way of explaining. Thanks.
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
You are most welcome, thanks for the comment!
@DSTEngines
@DSTEngines 9 ай бұрын
A really good explanation 🙂
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 9 ай бұрын
Glad you think so!
@buckrogers5331
@buckrogers5331 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Very clear explanation. Would have liked to take a closer look at what you are holding though.
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Buck, thanks for the comment! There's not much to see on the outside. In the front you can see a small section of the compressor wheel, starter motor and FOD screen. In the rear of the turbine through the nozzle you can see the back face of the turbine wheel. I'd love to take apart the Turbine, however, I don't want to cancel the warranty on it. There is another video where you can see more of what is required on a turbine airplane to make it all go. It's also the plane where this turbine was stolen from. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4DRkIOihq6nhqs
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 2 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained Okay, but zooming in to eliminate the space wasted on livingroom furnishings (which is most of the image) would be much better.
@History_ofthe
@History_ofthe 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man 👍
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 2 жыл бұрын
You bet
@minhquangnguyen1026
@minhquangnguyen1026 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Jim1971a
@Jim1971a 2 жыл бұрын
I was expecting a whole series of compression fans. Interesting.
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 2 жыл бұрын
There would be in a larger practical engine. These toy engines and even the smallest of real aircraft gas turbine engines have only a single-stage compressor, but that only works with a centrifugal compressor (not with an axial compressor).
@Service00
@Service00 3 жыл бұрын
Nice.
@naughtyUphillboy
@naughtyUphillboy Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@AceNinja2112
@AceNinja2112 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best video I've ever seen on how a model jet turbine works! To me, the combustion chamber is the most confusing part, as it's hard for me to visualize where pure air is flowing, versus the fuel-air mixture, versus where the flame is and where the flaming hot gases are?!?!?
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 2 жыл бұрын
The 3D model would certainly benefit from some flow arrows. Even better would be some dots representing small masses of air, flowing along that complex path, packed closer to together where pressure is higher... but that's a lot to ask for. Just arrows would be good...
@zlm001
@zlm001 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@smj4107
@smj4107 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Why does the ignited gas flow only to the exhaust/turbine end and not force its way back to the compressor stage? I'm assuming the pressure is much less on the exhaust side, but would love a detailed explanation.
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
In fluid dynamics, the fluid always takes the path of least resistance. Since the pressure at the turbine wheel is at atmospheric pressure and the pressure at the compressor wheel is much greater than atmospheric pressure, exhaust gasses can only flow towards the turbine wheel.
@Royaltech91
@Royaltech91 3 жыл бұрын
Please which motor used in jet engine kv ? Of brushless motor please tell me details
@mohamedfarid7499
@mohamedfarid7499 Жыл бұрын
thanks a lot , the small nozzle fuel different if we use propane fuel ?
@TheGoldbags
@TheGoldbags 2 жыл бұрын
WOW
@bhaskarbj6938
@bhaskarbj6938 3 жыл бұрын
Nice sir you are great
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks and welcome
@michaellapierre1244
@michaellapierre1244 4 жыл бұрын
Really super explanation. Do you have any idea why these engines sometimes stall on people during take off? Is it a lack of rigorous maintenance like partial disassembly and spraying out parts with a carb and choke cleaner?
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
HI Michael, thanks for the comment! I would expect a flame out to possibly be related to fuel delivery. A small air bubble in the fuel delivery line is enough to cause a flame out. Maintenance on most turbines are required to be done every 25hours of operation.
@43manassinghc-39
@43manassinghc-39 Жыл бұрын
❤❤❤👍👍👍👍
@spicemasterii6775
@spicemasterii6775 4 жыл бұрын
Can you talk about (if you haven't already) the pros and cons of rc jet vs piston engines? Especially regarding helicopters
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Spice Master, thank you for your comment. That sounds like a fun topic that I have not done already. I will certainly add it to the list of requested videos, but I should say that the queue is quite long.
@RBAERO
@RBAERO 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. You made this turbine? And you made the CAD model?
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You Rudá. The turbine was purchased. The CAD model was downloaded off of a 3D model site and modified to suit the video.
@RBAERO
@RBAERO 4 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained Nice! Where I can get this CAD?
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
@@RBAERO I think it was grab cad
@goreil2489
@goreil2489 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid, and I only build boats! And steam driven at that!
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Gor!
@aneesfatima7478
@aneesfatima7478 4 жыл бұрын
The way you explain is superb. You should desrve something big . Thanks for making this video
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Anees Fatima, thank you for the very kind words. Appreciate your comment! There has been multiple requests for more turbine videos. In the coming weeks I'm hoping to get a couple more out. Thank you for watching!
@lawahanglimbu6220
@lawahanglimbu6220 Жыл бұрын
the vaporizing tube was it face the right direction in initial time before the video started.
@rccosplay3249
@rccosplay3249 4 жыл бұрын
Jetcat does make a generator on the NX series, to supply power for the operation of the turbine and to replenish the Rx batterys.. 💖👍💖
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
That is pretty awesome!
@ggesdsdsdsd
@ggesdsdsdsd Жыл бұрын
How would/could you convert it to a plasma jet turbine...?
@huaahhggg9507
@huaahhggg9507 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. But a tip, TV died for a reason, drop the reporter voice.
@Jan_Seidel
@Jan_Seidel 3 жыл бұрын
This was a very comprehensive video. I learned as new starter at lot. One thing is a bit sad. You told there are different fuel options which made me listen up. But you didn't go into detail. I would really have loved that
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jan what details were you looking for?
@Jan_Seidel
@Jan_Seidel 3 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained You have told that *most* of the engines also work on diesel. Why just most of the engines and especially why? What are the requirements to run an engine on diesel? Cheers
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jan, Most model jet turbines burn either diesel, jet fuel or kerosene. All these fuels are from the same fuel family. The ECU would have to learn the difference in the start up procedure for a new fuel within the first few startups. If there is any issue in the auto startup there may have to be some manual assistance.
@Jan_Seidel
@Jan_Seidel 3 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained Oh, so any jet can run diesel. It is really just the matter of how to startup? That's convenient. Thanks for your reply :)
@johncgibson4720
@johncgibson4720 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. I didn't know that the air goes into the combustion chamber from behind. I don't like the design that winds the air back and forth wasting energy. But if it works, it works.
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 2 жыл бұрын
The directional changes don't really waste energy. The path also allows incoming compressed air to keep the housing relatively cool, shielding it from the combustion flame.
@ViniColen
@ViniColen 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. But can you talk more about that fuel system? I never saw that type before. In the usual, the fuel enters behind the vapor tubes, and throw fuel inside the combustion chamber. In that type, you are throwing fuel inside the vapor tubes. why? Other thing. The function of the vapor tubes isnt to prevent the fuel injectors to melt? There is a part of the fuel injector that is inside the combustion chamber without the protection of the vapor tubes. Wouldnt it melt?
@JackJack-jd8wp
@JackJack-jd8wp 2 жыл бұрын
hello, does the combustion chamber's length have any impact on the jet's working ?
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@CavadasAeromodelismo
@CavadasAeromodelismo 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. I would just like to note that the fuel injectors go inside the tubes from the back to the front, not from the front as you designed. Also, gas start was used because it was easier, the igniters for rc model turbines have only been invented later. Anyways, good work on the video!
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment José.
@justjoe7313
@justjoe7313 3 жыл бұрын
Came here to write that!
@crewneckdeath6801
@crewneckdeath6801 2 жыл бұрын
Can we use a cnc machine to do this
@jester5922
@jester5922 4 жыл бұрын
blows me away almost no-one makes a diy high voltage generator out of these.
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
It's certainly possible considering they make these for turbo props. One thing to keep in mind is that they are terribly inefficient. The one shown in the video burns a litre of fuel every 3 minutes. When the plane is in the air it gets worse fuel mileage than my car.
@jester5922
@jester5922 4 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained i wonder how many hobbyists have tried cheaper fuels, vaporized fuels for higher efficiency on a cost basis. liquid fuel seems so stone age.
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
hey Jester. Do you have an example?
@NoonzAirborneRC
@NoonzAirborneRC 4 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained My swiwin turbine only burns 1 liter in 7 minutes at cruise speed
@ezb77
@ezb77 4 жыл бұрын
​@@RCexplained In theory my plane can do at least 40km with 6 litres of fuel in 8 minutes or less (that would convert to about 16 miles per gallon). Considering its going more than 185mph at that consumption its far better economy than any car :-) So the car comparison is a bit difficult since there is so much more to consider... Weight, Payload etc. But of course you're right. They are very inefficient. Nevertheless it would be interesting what such a small turbine could do in a backup generator.
@0623kaboom
@0623kaboom 2 жыл бұрын
there now thats the video I was expecting ... the other one is called essentially the same thing but covers the support system for the turbine and NOT the actual turbine ... BIG difference
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment kaboom! The other video is called all components in a jet turbine airplane with the thumbnail showing many different components in an airplane. Not sure why you would expect to see a turbine torn down.
@gonzalomorenoandonaegui2052
@gonzalomorenoandonaegui2052 4 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video about the bearing's lubrication-cooling process ? Where are the pipes that feeds oil to the bearings ?
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
In model turbines, the lubrication is in the fuel. A very small percentage of the oil in the fuel makes its way to the front and rear bearings. There are no oil lines that feed the bearings. If you are familiar with how a small 2 stroke internal combustion engine works and receives oil to all internal components, the small model turbines lubricate in a very similar manner.
@GreatJO
@GreatJO Жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained the fuel/oil mixture is directly injected into combustion chamber, there is no way for oil to reach the bearings?
@gabrield3627
@gabrield3627 3 жыл бұрын
As far as I'm concerned, engine != turbine, the turbine is just part of the engine. I get that "turbine" is a more common term and people tend to get/click on it more easily, but still, it kinda makes it a little uncomfortable to hear. well, for me anyway 😁 Awesome video though! great explanation!!
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Gabriel thanks for the awesome comment. I will share my experience. I personally have learned that a turbine represents the full assembly and the turbine wheel is a specific part within a turbine. You can see this when you search for jet turbine or gas turbine, steam turbine, wind turbine in google images. When you search for the gas turbine wheel, you get the specific part you are after. I wouldn't call the grouping of all those different types of turbines, "engines," but rather turbomachinery. At the end of the day, which ever you call it, I'm sure I will know what you are talking about. :) Even some text books describing the brayton cycle will call the assembly a gas turbine but refer to the turbine wheel as just the turbine. It all works!
@dogguyful
@dogguyful 2 жыл бұрын
Hello rcexplained, is this jet turbine model exactly like the real one?
@bluecavemen
@bluecavemen Жыл бұрын
I found this video every helpful. I was curious to know is there any kind of certification to repair these turbines? If so where can i go in the US?
@RCexplained
@RCexplained Жыл бұрын
Yes, more than likely any certification required is controlled by the manufactures and dealers of these turbines.
@bluecavemen
@bluecavemen Жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained Can you recommend any in the US ? I connected one and never heard back so i gave up on that place. need to find some where since i dont know the industry that much i was hoping you can me guide me to the a place you know.
@RCexplained
@RCexplained Жыл бұрын
I have no connections within this part of the industry.
@larbislimane36
@larbislimane36 3 жыл бұрын
This little Turbine is more advanced than anything out ther..its easy to operate..the Data Terminal does all the Work...my my... easy build..copy it...upgrade the Turbine a little bit..and ther it is..the Giant in the same order.
@sukhwindersingh-yq9cy
@sukhwindersingh-yq9cy 2 жыл бұрын
Where I can find that CAD model sir?
@mr.2minutes161
@mr.2minutes161 4 жыл бұрын
how does the oil make its way to the bearing especially the front one?
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, both bearings are exposed to the internal fluid flow. The fluid is pressurized in the entire cavity. An extremely high percentage of oil actually never makes it to the bearings and simply burns out the exhaust nozzle. However this very small percentage of oil does make it to the bearings. In a more conventional jet turbine, there would be a dedicated system that pumps oil, injects the oil on to the bearings and then recycles it back to a reservoir. In our models, we rely on a much more simple system.
@basimpsn
@basimpsn 4 жыл бұрын
@2:17 kero start turbines doesn't uses propane gas to start or sparkplug.The kerosene flows through a injector and a glow igniter for ignition. But cool video. My buddy will be doing a actual rc turbine teardown and reassemble to testing video
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
Please check description. That is cool. Which turbine will he be opening up? I didn't want to open it up and void a lifetime warranty. I'd like to open one up but to be honest there's not going to be much in there to see.
@basimpsn
@basimpsn 4 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplainedSecond video will be a Rhino..but I do understand about the warranty 😁 what are your plans for the engine? kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5aypWewaNenn9E kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGOshYiAiNRsg6c
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
It's in a Boomerang sprint
@alf3071
@alf3071 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I had the tools to build the components because I wanna play with building a small jet engine
@Vincent........
@Vincent........ 3 жыл бұрын
How do you calculate how big the holes in the combustion chamber are going to be?
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
I do not have these specifics.
@BamaiyiPeter-dt6rg
@BamaiyiPeter-dt6rg Ай бұрын
😮😊 Finally I got the right explanation
@RCexplained
@RCexplained Ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@Miata822
@Miata822 3 жыл бұрын
For much more detail on how combustion chambers and turbines work in general visit the AgentJayZ channel here on KZbin. Yes, he rebuilds and describes full size jet engines, but the fundamentals are the same. His channel is a priceless resource if you build DIY turbojets or simply want a deeper understanding of the details of turbojet operations. Since he has hundreds of videos it is helpful to use the channel search function, perhaps starting with "combustor" since he has great details on that.
@nithins6898
@nithins6898 4 жыл бұрын
How will this engine start ? I mean before starting there is no heat in the combustion chamber or nozzle to convert the liquid fuel to gas.
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, for a kero start system, there is a pre heat of the fuel before ignition. I mention in the video that is uses a spark plug to ignite the fuel, however, a better term to use would be an igniter. Ignition can be created from either a heat source or an electrical spark.
@retna1x363
@retna1x363 3 жыл бұрын
where is the igniter in the combustion chamber? Is it in the tubes because if so wouldnt there need to be 1 for atleast each tube?
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
The turbine in the video has one.
@retna1x363
@retna1x363 3 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained but where is the spark plug in the comubstion chamber? I see there are many tubes with fuel that get sent to them but I dont know where the ignitor is/sparkplug in the combustion chamber in the model
@Blackowl44
@Blackowl44 2 жыл бұрын
I want to build a 100-120 lbs drone what would be my best engine option?
@youngsun7055
@youngsun7055 2 жыл бұрын
I know they use hybrid bearings. Bearings 608 and 6000 that I will be using should withstand 115,000 rpm, but the bearings I bought have poor performance and cannot withstand high rotation. The 608, 6000 should withstand 115,000 rpm and the 602 should withstand 65,000 rpm. Which bearing from which company is right for me?
@Kobra361
@Kobra361 Ай бұрын
Where to get the 3d Modell?
@gsjjhda2483
@gsjjhda2483 2 жыл бұрын
HOW REDUCED SIDE BUT MORE POWER THAN THIS.
@biblepundittv2961
@biblepundittv2961 2 жыл бұрын
Please sir I want you to teach me the functions of turbine components and how to fix them together
@swift4856
@swift4856 2 жыл бұрын
Can I ask what is the lifespan of a jet turbine vs an EDF. Also what is the cost difference for jet turbine vs EDF with similar thrust output? (I realize EDF would need to be a lot bigger) Thanks
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 2 жыл бұрын
Jet Turbines require maintenance every ~25hrs to hold on to the lifetime warranty that some include. They are also more costly. However Jet Turbines will outperform EDF's at higher speed. There's another video on the channel that talks about this.
@jacobokpara7618
@jacobokpara7618 3 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to get the CAD design of the engine and the combustion chamber hole pattern please. And how do you lubricate the bearing. Any video on that?
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Jacob, the CAD models are downloaded from grabcad. The bearing is lubricated using turbine oil found in the fuel. The fuel mix circulates and contacts the bearing surfaces.
@jacobokpara7618
@jacobokpara7618 3 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained thank you so much. I know it too much to ask, any possible links to this particular model for download? .
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jacob, I don't remember which one I had used. Try a few of them.
@jacobokpara7618
@jacobokpara7618 3 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained alright thank you so so much. I have a model I made. Not sure it will work, my only issue is lubrication. I've seen models with a separate oil pipe for lubrication. In your model, you don't have that. Do you a video about lubrication of the bearings?
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
I don't have a video on lubrication of the bearings.
@akkiguru3470
@akkiguru3470 4 жыл бұрын
Hey dear . Can i buy this type of rc turbine engine.. ? Which site i can buy
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
Yes you can. I'm not sure where you are from, however, you can type in RC turbine and I'm sure sites/dealers will pop up.
@architmore2812
@architmore2812 2 жыл бұрын
Which material is use to make bearings? And which oil is used for these turbines MOBILE JET ?
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 2 жыл бұрын
Hybrid of Ceramic/Steel. Mobil DTE light is used in the turbine I was holding.
@architmore2812
@architmore2812 2 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained Thank you for the information. We use Mobile Jet II in our real aircraft turnbine. This was very helpful. Highly obliged.👍🏻😊
@SIDEKICKONYOUTUBE
@SIDEKICKONYOUTUBE Жыл бұрын
FFKKKK i hate this youtube autoplay... sudden LOUD "HEY GUYS" wakes up everybody in the room.
@harambe1356
@harambe1356 3 жыл бұрын
Hey man, great video great explanation, but I have a question, can I run any (I mean kingtech and jetcat swinswin) turbine engine on diesel, cause in my country jet A fuel is pretty rare, or if I can run kerosene, what type of kerosene can I run, are there any disadvantages with those fuels, I have looking in to turbine for almost 2 years now, I'm scared to buy one because of fuel type, if I can't run it, it would be a waste, I know it is long but I hope you will help me out, AS ALWAYS GREAT VIDEO, KEEP UP!!!
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Droid Tech, you can take a look at any of the manufactures spec sheets to see if their turbines can run on alternate fuels. Most turbines can. There are advantages and disadvantages, performance difference is subtle. Kerosene is great when you want minimum odour. Diesel is the most cost effective but does tend to have more smoke during start up and shut down.
@jeffreyhemphill3831
@jeffreyhemphill3831 4 жыл бұрын
Dumb question. Would there be any way to extend the rear turbine and add an after burner ring to make a true afterburner? I see a lot of real rc afterburners but they don't seem to do much but burn extra fuel for show as they are attached after the rear turbine
@jeffreyhemphill3831
@jeffreyhemphill3831 4 жыл бұрын
Edit. I know it would cause so many problems such as extreme rpm's and extreme heat. But damn it would be cool to see a truly functional rc afterburner. Who's rich enough to build it though? Haha
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jeffrey. Yes it has been done and does significantly increase thrust when the fuel mix is correct. It should not have an increase in RPM's but will have a lot more heat out the newly fabricated exhaust. An afterburner burns fuel after the last turbine wheel stage. The expanding gases simply exit the turbine nozzle only and do not flow over any rotating components. That's why it has the name "afterburner."
@jamesscott5407
@jamesscott5407 4 жыл бұрын
Hey just a question...what system is used to spray fuel through the nozzles...is it an electrical pump or mechanical system? What pressure does it function at?
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
Hey James, It's an electric pump. I've never measured fuel pressure or saw any specification on it. I would expect pressure to be quite low. If you are looking for a specific value, I'd get in touch with the manufacture.
@jamesscott5407
@jamesscott5407 4 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained thankyou very much for the reply,I wanted to know the preferred setup for RC!! I'll contact them!thanks again for an informative video,I subscribed!
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesscott5407 Hi James, the RC turbine manufactures have everything included so that you do not need to worry about the specifics to this degree. For example the electric pump is typically integrated in the included turbine ECU. In a future video I will go over all turbine components in an RC Jet airplane. Thank you for the sub.
@jamesscott5407
@jamesscott5407 4 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained yeah I guessed that by the prices haha...it's more of my curious mind than anything else...I've read some literature on turbine engines and they use swash plate style pumping elements so just wondered how the RC world did it. A video like that would be awesome. I wish you luck in your endeavours here on you tube,well presented and visualised!
@cleberpedra
@cleberpedra 3 жыл бұрын
Legendas em portugues por favor
@myobboy9973
@myobboy9973 3 жыл бұрын
At 150,000 rmp the compressor tips are at mach 2.3, at adle the compressor gas flows are sub sonic, but not by a lot. Designing these things is a black art, not a science. If anyone tells you he that really understands what is going on, he lies. Still, hats off to the guys who did get these things to work in the end, because when I was first interested in 1970, there were quite learned engineering articles explaining how model scale gas turbines could never be made to work at all. One needs to understand that bumble bees can really fly, but according to standard aeordynamics they could not fly at all. Think of the hot gas as more like white hot treakle and you are getting there. A blast of hot gass at mach 2 on the turbine stator is more like a shower of tiny rubber bullets than we can even imagine. Think of those tiny rubber bullets as all being connected together by a property that we call viscosity. The work that we have to thank for all this started with heavy military helicopter starter motor gas turbines and moved on to your turbo diesel truck and later even my 1.5 dci turbine charger.
@mingshelngamba9822
@mingshelngamba9822 3 жыл бұрын
Some 🚄 are oil & Electric !
@Mgp-Rc
@Mgp-Rc 2 жыл бұрын
Jet A1 and kerosene are two different things?? Always thought that "Jet A1" was just the same slimy stuff!!??
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 2 жыл бұрын
Typical "jet" fuels, including Jet A, are kerosene-based. Try the Wikipedia page for "Jet fuel" for more explanation.
@yazantarazi1262
@yazantarazi1262 2 жыл бұрын
can I have the model's file to open it in CAD software?
@hydra7013
@hydra7013 3 жыл бұрын
Did the engine work if I made the outer blades of diffuser straight without curve ?? Plz reply , thank you .
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
Are you referring to the stator vanes on the turbine side? Yes it can still work but efficiency is reduced.
@hydra7013
@hydra7013 3 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained No I mean the compressor guide vane .
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
@@hydra7013 yes it would be along the same idea. It can work but would rob you of flow efficiency. You will want to optimize it as best as you can.
@hydra7013
@hydra7013 3 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained Thank you so much .
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
@@hydra7013 no problem
@user-ty5mk8zq2c
@user-ty5mk8zq2c 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, can you tell me what is the fuel consumption in this type of mini jet engine?
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
At constant full throttle, the turbine I was holding in the video burns 1 litre of fuel every 3 minutes.
@ReighKnight
@ReighKnight 3 жыл бұрын
Can anyone please send me cad file (which has all the parts) of such jet engine
@retna1x363
@retna1x363 3 жыл бұрын
do they use the same technology as turbojet engines or turbofan engines?
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
model jet turbines are very much simplified versions of larger scale turbines.
@retna1x363
@retna1x363 3 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained oh thanks, but do you know if they use like the same technology as turbo jet engines or turbofan engines because I know the 2 are different and I have always wondered which one they use because I thought the model jet turbines are turbo jet engines technology whereas most commercial airplanes use turbofan engine technology.
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
a turbofan engine has bypass air that flows outside of the combustion chamber. A turbojet engine has no bypass air. Model engines are turbojet engines for simplicity.
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 2 жыл бұрын
Much less living room, leaving much more the image for the engine, would greatly improve the opening segment (the first third of the video).
@retna1x363
@retna1x363 3 жыл бұрын
how many spark plugs are there?
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
In the video a spark plug was said to fire the initial flame. However, an igniter would be the most correct term. In the turbine shown one ceramic igniter is used.
@retna1x363
@retna1x363 3 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained okay Ill rewatch it again but one more quick question, is there only 1 igniter? Like in modern day turbo fan engines there are multiple im pretty sure but do they use only 1? And how many of those small tubes are there like those little purple ones you showed.
@retna1x363
@retna1x363 3 жыл бұрын
the purple tubes like at 8:30
@gonzalomorenoandonaegui2052
@gonzalomorenoandonaegui2052 3 жыл бұрын
RCexplained Why model Gas jet engines produce more thrust than EDFs the same diameter ? Could an EDF reach the same thrust that a Gas jet with a powerful compact electric motor ?
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
Answered this on the comment you left on this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4e8l4V8r9t1h7c
@abderrahmansammarrr762
@abderrahmansammarrr762 4 жыл бұрын
can you power a jet turbine with propane gas
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
If it will burn and you can control it, it can work.
@kodoxberuban1663
@kodoxberuban1663 3 жыл бұрын
what happen to the motor in front of the engine you hold that ussd for starting the engine? your explanation is enermously talking only the combustion chamber only not entirely, for example the motor for starting the engine from dead cold
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Kodox. The motor is talked about at 1:00 and again around 2:34.
@hitekheadify
@hitekheadify 4 жыл бұрын
hi Ryan, I emailed an RC turbine manufacturer asking why RC turbines do use bypass fans given they are capable of up to 80% thrust (ref RR).. No answer
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
Hey HiTekHead. Assuming you actually meant "do not use." I would expect the reason RC turbines do not use bypass fans is purely due to cost. Most turbine guys are not worried about fuel consumption. The biggest difference you would get by using bypass fans is better fuel efficiency. However there is a cost to this as well as the extra complexity.
@ronelbrizuela
@ronelbrizuela 4 жыл бұрын
hi sir im interested
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@eyyy2874
@eyyy2874 4 жыл бұрын
I have a dumb question . Why do others have propane and also kerosene ?
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Francis. It's not a dumb question, all questions are welcomed on this channel! And thank you for yours! The propane is used as starting fuel since at room temperature it already exists in gaseous form. Thus it's easier to ignite. Once the propane ignites kerosene can be introduced and the propane is then shut off. A kerostart turbine requires heating up the kerosene in order to turn it in to gas form to start the turbine.
@eyyy2874
@eyyy2874 4 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained thank you very much ! I learned a lot because of your channel .
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 2 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained The term "kerostart" would have made more sense if you included this in the video: it means starting on just the engine's normal fuel (kerosene), instead of starting on a special starting fuel (such as propane).
@bahz4292
@bahz4292 3 жыл бұрын
There is only 1 spark plug/ignitor right? Like there arent more then 1 inside like a real commercial turbofan kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmOXiJlmi9GHe5I 1:47 seconds on that video. I just wanted to make sure. By the way nice job on the 3d printed model it looks like u put a ton of effort into it and it payed off with a good explanation, the spark plug question is my only question.
@bahz4292
@bahz4292 3 жыл бұрын
like is there a igniter on the bottom and top or just the top?
@hydra7013
@hydra7013 4 жыл бұрын
What the name of viewer you r used ?
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 4 жыл бұрын
It's a design software package.
@mikemike-rm7tn
@mikemike-rm7tn 3 жыл бұрын
Its Solidworks.
@dwkach
@dwkach Ай бұрын
Oopppss....no spark plug. It is a ceramic heating element. Element and start fuel are always on together. other version was propane start. that used a model airplane glow plug to ignite the propane....
@RCexplained
@RCexplained Ай бұрын
Correct no sparkplug. Was corrected in the description I do believe.
@tomjdesigns1280
@tomjdesigns1280 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t clearly shows how fuel is delivered
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
Hope this helps: kzbin.info/www/bejne/b4DRkIOihq6nhqs
@Royaltech91
@Royaltech91 3 жыл бұрын
Why burn fuel in engine what is use of burning fuel in engine what is science
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure what you are asking?
@Royaltech91
@Royaltech91 3 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained why fuel burning in jet engine for fire what is reason
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
@@Royaltech91 The expanding gases create the potential for power.
@Royaltech91
@Royaltech91 3 жыл бұрын
@@RCexplained bro please make a video how to make a jet engine
@RCexplained
@RCexplained 3 жыл бұрын
That would be tough as I've never made a jet engine.
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