How Being Betrayed Changes You

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Tim Fletcher

Tim Fletcher

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Betrayal can bring on a complex mix of emotions within people. It often leads to feelings of deep hurt, disappointment, anger, and sadness. It can create a sense of vulnerability and skepticism towards others. Betrayal may also trigger self-doubt and a questioning of your own judgement of people and relationships. Coping with betrayal can result in emotional distress and a sense of loss.
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Chapters
00:00 Emotional symptoms
03:52 Cognitive symptoms
06:09 The message received from betrayal
07:15 Physical symptoms
08:46 Behavioural symptoms
10:37 Relationship symptoms
13:30 Sexual symptoms
15:02 Spiritual symptoms
15:56 Conclusion

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@genevieveraymond8326
@genevieveraymond8326 20 күн бұрын
The worst part is ruminating about the betrayal and not wanting to think about it or talk about it but it just comes back at anytime ...
@michellejohnsen912
@michellejohnsen912 20 күн бұрын
When I get thoughts I don't like, I literally say, No I don't agree with that and I choose to be thankful and forgive. It actually helps! Also, the renewing of my mind by reading the Bible is super valuable. Jesus helps me overcome things that I could never do on my own! Jesus is the best!
@thebluebutterfly5177
@thebluebutterfly5177 20 күн бұрын
@@michellejohnsen912I completely agree. Betrayal has been the absolute worst experience I have lived out of all my experiences. But no one understands betrayal like Jesus Christ. It truly has been my daily bread. 🙏🏻❤️
@michellejohnsen912
@michellejohnsen912 20 күн бұрын
@@thebluebutterfly5177 amen sister 🕊
@MichelleVisageOnlyFans
@MichelleVisageOnlyFans 20 күн бұрын
For me it's the anger. At the one who betrayed me directly at time when my mind starts ruminating and remembering, but also at anyone who only remotely acts or says things like the betrayer, I immediately jump up and am triggered and verbally aggressive towards them! While I could just let it go, they pose no threat to me by their behavior, I am in no way connected to them or in a position to be hurt by them, yet I react negatively because I am just so triggered when somebody behaves like my betrayer. I just can't control it! That's what bothers me!
@lindamceachern5467
@lindamceachern5467 20 күн бұрын
There isn't anything wrong with you. It's what happened to you that was wrong. Big hugs ♥ it's a terrible psychological shock when something like that happens. It's a completely normal human reaction. Ironic how we know how to deal with physical shock but not mental shock and the grief process involved. Instead we have a tendency to further add salt to the wound by attaching a label causing you to be stigmatized by others as though there actually is something wrong with you. Everyone has an ego. Betrayal is the most painful ego death that a human being could ever suffer. It will keep on resurfacing until you can finally trust someone enough to talk to about it. It means you must be willing to allow yourself to be vulnerable and willing to trust again. Therapy helps. Most definitely. Just remember...it wasn't your fault you were betrayed by someone you loved ♥
@highplainsdrifter699
@highplainsdrifter699 20 күн бұрын
Once you figure out human nature youve got it made. Been betrayed more times than i care to remember, family romantic partners and more.As a senior on the autistic spectrum Im done with people, got a dog, best decision ever 🐕
@thatswhatisaid8908
@thatswhatisaid8908 20 күн бұрын
I still like people, but most of them need to be at least at arm's length. And they wear me out, so I don't want to be around them too much. But I have a cat, and he makes me laugh.
@yamino9sai
@yamino9sai 19 күн бұрын
Same but got a cat, treating her like she’s my daughter
@4fsake2024
@4fsake2024 19 күн бұрын
I love my single life with just a dog and a cat. I learned healthy boundaries and walk away if I see any signs of toxicity from friends. I don't feel lonely. After the last deep betrayal, I didn't feel lonely, I felt freedom.
@chebtremb2244
@chebtremb2244 19 күн бұрын
I feel the same way. Partner is a little different as I feel it’s easy to get over and break up with them. Family (siblings in my case) is a little different as I kept going back and wanting to have a relationship with them but it’s good for a while and then the cycle repeats either they make me feel like an afterthought and won’t contact unless they want/need something. I go to roller coaster of depression about this and it is hard to cut contacts. I almost feel like I’m gaslighning my own self because I try to reason with myself and depend them. 😢
@jac1161
@jac1161 18 күн бұрын
that dog won't advocate for you when you're older and sick
@llpolluxll
@llpolluxll 20 күн бұрын
Jeez, this is like a laundry list of struggles I've faced growing up. My heart goes out to everyone who has gone through this. You are not alone.
@robertmueller2023
@robertmueller2023 18 күн бұрын
Far from it, even before going into action.
@irenahabe2855
@irenahabe2855 17 күн бұрын
ACA/ACoA 12 step program has a simmilar laundry list. Worth looking at.
@rayc9899
@rayc9899 16 күн бұрын
I refuse to be dictate by toxic humans, just move on with precautions and you will be o.k. Life is to short to be with naughty mind.
@user-yf6jt2df5o
@user-yf6jt2df5o 16 күн бұрын
Jeez is short for Jesus. When I went to heaven the Holy Spirit yelled out over and over Jeez and the next thing I knew I was in heaven in front of him and he took a tumor from me.
@straitjacket1930
@straitjacket1930 20 сағат бұрын
Yes we are. He'll is other people and life is a waste of time.
@Becca0082
@Becca0082 19 күн бұрын
No weapon formed against me shall prosper.....
@meowzr81
@meowzr81 12 күн бұрын
Amen
@drivethruabortion280
@drivethruabortion280 12 күн бұрын
Stupid
@GodsChosenMekAmoR
@GodsChosenMekAmoR 11 күн бұрын
Factssssssss!!!!
@user-tb5lw9fb7k
@user-tb5lw9fb7k 20 күн бұрын
Having been betrayed by my family has been the worst thing that has happened in my life. It's been 12 years and my life has never been the same. If you can't trust your family then who can you trust? I'm definitely not the same person I was before the betrayal.
@Lyrielonwind
@Lyrielonwind 20 күн бұрын
Same here and I survived many betrayals from couples and friendnemies.
@geraldfriend256
@geraldfriend256 20 күн бұрын
It is brutal. And was done for sport. At least it helped open my eyes about how I choose/ have chosen people.
@jude8132
@jude8132 20 күн бұрын
i'm so sorry, there is no greater pain or betrayal than to have ur family turn against u.
@yourbeautybff
@yourbeautybff 19 күн бұрын
Same
@HopefulHealingGarden
@HopefulHealingGarden 19 күн бұрын
I'm so sorry this happened to you and to everyone else it has happened to. It has happened to me as well, and while my life is not perfect I do trust God and because of Him, I have been able to have some good experiences with some relationships. God is always there even when it seems like He isn't. I really appreciate everything Tim is teaching us all here. It is very helpful and I have hope that one day I will be fully healed. I have hope that the same will be true for you and everyone else. God Bless.
@tinawhite8835
@tinawhite8835 18 күн бұрын
I live alone and will from now on. I don't trust my ability to identify people who wish to destroy me. Relationships cause too much anxiety. If a man is not nice, I don't want to be around him. If a man is nice, I don't trust that he's sincere and not just setting me up. It causes too much anxiety. I don't expect anything from anyone. Yes, indeed, I lost my faith. I will never be the person I once was.
@mysweetlife388
@mysweetlife388 14 күн бұрын
I am in the same situation. Figuring out ways make my present and future brighter.
@marciasimpson8852
@marciasimpson8852 14 күн бұрын
I feel the same, I dont trust my choices
@angelawright7258
@angelawright7258 13 күн бұрын
That’s so sad I felt that.
@kr0wn.aSSaSSin
@kr0wn.aSSaSSin 11 күн бұрын
After being betrayed by countless partners & then my family.. for 4yrs everyday I studied narcissism, body language, behavioural analysis etc. (Just thru KZbin videos). Now I see red flags in almost every person I meet & it scares me. I also can spot genuinity from a mile away, but I’m too broken for those people. ~They deserve so much better than me. So I too stay alone.💔
@Xzerbit
@Xzerbit 10 күн бұрын
Thats such a scary feeling, ive been there, the fear of it happening again and the what ifs, u can research here to help u on ur way, and trust ur gut, if something feels off, theres a reason for it, dont dismiss it for excuses u can brew up. trust u, and learn how to spot these monsters, everything from behavior to words they use, lack of emotion- s/al intelligence is also a big one, learn to see through the facade. all of this, it gives u a whole other level of peace, u might see red flags in everyone after, i did, but we all have some red flags, it doesnt mean were monsters, were "just" human beings, flawed. But through this process, u learn to spot the serious dangers, then walk away from it before it ever really begins, trust urself in this, and dont give up, u dont deserve that. best of luck
@user-cg8if3eq7d
@user-cg8if3eq7d 20 күн бұрын
If you stay objective, really, the disappointment factor is so pervasive, you can't even look at someone whose thrown you to the wolves, especially if it's been intentional or has surfaced as a pattern. Once you see that level of disingenuousness exposed, you cant bear to even look at them because you don't want to see the dark hole in thier soul they they initially hid. It's heart breaking to see the beautiful shell that fell away in hindsight, with every falsehood they spoke. But, they have to live with who they choose to be and thankfully you don't.
@rayc9899
@rayc9899 16 күн бұрын
They do not give a shit about the destroy they are involve, no remorse even please with themself, it is all about control and to win no matter what. RUN FOR THE HILL ASAP when you see the red flag and they are always present.
@peachesandpoets
@peachesandpoets 13 күн бұрын
So hauntingly beautiful what you wrote is. True
@kr0wn.aSSaSSin
@kr0wn.aSSaSSin 11 күн бұрын
I wish my family could see their fault, but they don’t. ~or at least they pretend not to. They all stick together & twist everything around to make out it’s all me & I’m just crazy. Unfortunately I do live with who they are. Alcohol truly destroys families.
@louisetaylor6952
@louisetaylor6952 20 күн бұрын
If you never get over the betrayal and you let it change you permanently, they win! You are strong enough to not let that happen...
@cynthia7564
@cynthia7564 19 күн бұрын
Yes, but if the betrayers were your parents (from your earliest moments on earth), your entire life is circumscribed. Therapy and prayer certainly help, but grief persists....deep grief.
@louisetaylor6952
@louisetaylor6952 19 күн бұрын
@@cynthia7564 Hi Cynthia, why not get a really good physical checkup ...everyone deserves that...do what you need to do to be healthy...this will help you see things clearly and make good decisions...
@Sarah-with-an-H
@Sarah-with-an-H 19 күн бұрын
​@@cynthia7564 This I've been grieving for 40 years over these things. It's hard to get past not mattering that my safety as a child was an afterthought and mattered so little compared to certain people accepting her and manipulating her into wanting to allow her daughter to lack safety.
@galhits
@galhits 18 күн бұрын
It doesnt matter.
@alexedgar6539
@alexedgar6539 18 күн бұрын
People are free to choose loyalty or betrayal, good or bad, relationship or leaving at each step. Now I specify loyalty in my relationships and make it clear that's what I expect. I'm still trusting by nature, thank God!
@nickf2170
@nickf2170 17 күн бұрын
I think the aspect of hopelessness is often overlooked. This is one of the worst things that a person can experience. For many people, it is the overriding feeling that leaves them in a state of dysfunction after betrayal. Why? Because it makes you feel like you can not pick people who are genuine and trustworthy. It often makes you doubt yourself, and so many people withdraw within themselves.
@SilentObserveUnfazed
@SilentObserveUnfazed 20 күн бұрын
I have experienced betrayal 4 times . .. I have become super resilient. No emotional ransom works on me. God is awesome 👌
@ginnymobley8246
@ginnymobley8246 20 күн бұрын
Once you learn how he loves you.That's what love is you on that
@carenboston2996
@carenboston2996 19 күн бұрын
Amen 🙏
@adamanderson8838
@adamanderson8838 19 күн бұрын
Same.
@jac1161
@jac1161 18 күн бұрын
That's great but don't lose empathy, compassion and patience for those who had maybe more, worse, more horrific such as being left home to die and betrayed by healthcare, and laypeople..... God is still awesome, even when I'm in a dark, bruised, very destroyed place. I'm SO thankful He takes me the longhand, painful way around so I can remain empathetic and sensitive to others, not spiritually gaslighting them or making them feel something is wrong with them if they believe in God but did have "emotional ransom." Trauma changes the brain and sometimes the nervous system has to be healed as well. When betrayal comes with physical abuse and domestic violence from home to the worlplace to the healthcare system? It adds up and it's over 44 for some of us. God is still awesome.
@wicked1172
@wicked1172 18 күн бұрын
@@ginnymobley8246 ?
@abbykoop5363
@abbykoop5363 19 күн бұрын
My mouth was hanging open that i could relate to all except the sexual abuse part. I deal with people if i have to, but i will choose animals over people any day.
@AllisonGiordano-id5pq
@AllisonGiordano-id5pq 10 сағат бұрын
Same
@sittingstill3578
@sittingstill3578 20 күн бұрын
Buying unnecessary purchases may be a way to get access to things that will remain. The purchases may represent things you enjoy but also things that you hope to use when you regain your ability to be creative again. Those items are sitting there for the time when things get better even though they may never actually be used. They can represent a desire to feel again because they are connected to things that you remember being enjoyable.
@flash_flood_area
@flash_flood_area 19 күн бұрын
Yes, I paid for some online workshops last fall, that I haven't even opened up yet. I wish I had the money back, because I sure could use it right now. I realized immediately that I had bought the workshops in a bid to give loving care to myself, because the person I loved was treating me like human garbage
@monicaramirez51015
@monicaramirez51015 18 күн бұрын
Omgosh this explains why I buy things that give me a sense of future hope that I will get through the freeze state of betrayal trauma 😮thank you for sharing 😊I AM not alone❤
@syzygy4365
@syzygy4365 18 күн бұрын
I don't think this works in my case. I bought mine so I could keep my dream job. Strange how that turned out.
@BlueJeansandJellyBeans
@BlueJeansandJellyBeans 17 күн бұрын
This was me. I would purchase things with a future vision of when I could wear/use them. And they just sat there. I am glad I finally saw what it was. I really don't buy much other than gas and groceries. Sometimes a piece of clothing but rare anymore.❤
@katherinealba6768
@katherinealba6768 17 күн бұрын
​@@flash_flood_area This is not a good idea.
@Realitycheck-rh4bk
@Realitycheck-rh4bk 14 күн бұрын
Being betrayed by your children is different kind of misery
@JaeReger-yr6hl
@JaeReger-yr6hl 10 күн бұрын
It is !
@adrianasoldevila630
@adrianasoldevila630 6 күн бұрын
The most painful😢
@kellyjackson4973
@kellyjackson4973 6 күн бұрын
I have the same exact problem. It’s so painful. It takes the air out of the room. I really believe I have heartbroken syndrome. It’s been about seven years now and it’s so painful. God bless you. I know exactly how you feel. All we can do is give it to God.
@ricklubbers1526
@ricklubbers1526 3 күн бұрын
How did they betray you?
@Realitycheck-rh4bk
@Realitycheck-rh4bk 3 күн бұрын
@@ricklubbers1526 too complicated to put in a comment to a stranger on KZbin. No offense. The disrespect is on many levels 💔
@brettanderson4021
@brettanderson4021 20 күн бұрын
Those who betray are the one's with the problem, so don't take it personally, it's about them Being betrayed teaches you how to spot a betrayer, so learn, be discerning, and only trust those who have shown you they're trustworthy Actions speak louder than words
@lewkaplanski7616
@lewkaplanski7616 18 күн бұрын
THIS!!! You nailed it perfectly! Wonderful job!!! 👏👏👏
@texastornado5517
@texastornado5517 15 күн бұрын
Very well articulated.
@angelawright7258
@angelawright7258 13 күн бұрын
Yes but they lure you in with their actions .
@scottoz7891
@scottoz7891 12 күн бұрын
Well said my friend ❤.
@GodsChosenMekAmoR
@GodsChosenMekAmoR 11 күн бұрын
Love this!
@giselamarch1994
@giselamarch1994 12 күн бұрын
It weakened my Immune System, My nervous system, gave ulcers. And all this in addition to most of the symptoms you mentioned. The autoimmune illness is the worst. It can't be healed.
@bigthunder7002
@bigthunder7002 7 күн бұрын
Yes it can, the Lord is a Lord of restoration!
@Cass_772
@Cass_772 20 күн бұрын
I have been betrayed by both parents, my son, customers I thought was friends... I just can't trust anyone... I experienced almost all of the symptoms displayed, it's crazy.. I stopped drinking that year and still sober 2 years and a half later and I am pretty proud of it. I cut ties with everyone one by one in the year that followed and find it really peaceful to be alone since. I found a good therapist who's really understanding and reassuring and it helped me so much. I went from doing nothing, not eating, not bathing, nothing for more than a year and a half (except when I had too) and now, I eat again, discovered sewing, painting on Skillshare and it saved my life. Really! I never thought I could come back from this darkness and I did but I won't be able to trust again. I know it in my soul.
@Lioness_of_Gaia
@Lioness_of_Gaia 19 күн бұрын
Good job and congratulations on your sobriety and healing journey!
@Cass_772
@Cass_772 18 күн бұрын
@@Lioness_of_Gaia thank you so much 🙏
@galhits
@galhits 18 күн бұрын
Glad you healed. You are not alone.
@angelawright7258
@angelawright7258 13 күн бұрын
I love this so well done to you I’m in recovery it’s like a new world you can’t put up with the things you once did. Good luck💓😊
@Cass_772
@Cass_772 13 күн бұрын
@@galhits thank you!
@kellbell7518
@kellbell7518 20 күн бұрын
I've been cheated on and then left for another woman twice from my last 2 significant relationships. I recently realized it was an unnatural ending. I was left mourning the loss of both of these men but they never mourned the loss of me. It has hit me differently since then.
@nayomemestas2262
@nayomemestas2262 19 күн бұрын
Hmm I guess that makes sense bc Iberia not mourned the loss of myself either! It was my last two relationships & the last one did everything deliberately for 1 bc they told me but conveniently don't recall telling me & 2 bc I confided in them about my past relationship bc I am in meds, have a psychiatrist but having a hard time finding a counselor who accepts Medicare & is taking be patients. I have what I believe are very severe mental & psychological issues that have taken a major effect on my life & we can't forget the financial hardship as well. I didn't depend on this person but we were supposed to move in together after I moved across the states for them which never happened. Only 2½ months after moving here (here is where I grew up so my family & kids are here but that's a whole other story) I was moving in with my eldest son but my partner & I do I thought so I guess I was the only one working on the relationship! I knew better but I wanted this so badly & I feel in love with them. We had been friends since middle school so many many years to about 1yr so I received a pic of them with someone else which the text said that their future was now beginning!! I lost it, but I never approached them in it bc I don't ever want to snap & I still haven't seen them. However, I still wanted to work on things through couples counseling but a month after the pic they completely left me! They left me alright, left me in a freakin wreck!! My heart was like confetti everywhere but not for a fun or exciting time! A freakin shattered, broken, destroyed piece of nothing left to die. No remorse, no empathy, no care what's so ever, like zero at all total void!! Everything on these lists yep even some of the sexual ones only bc now I just don't tryst anyone to be intimate with as & that means in the romantic type of intimacy realm either. Of course I've thought about me & how was I going to get through this but never did I look at it in the realm of mourning that person I was with both of my last 2 relationships! What I wanted was answers which I know that I'll never hear the truth truth but maybe bits & pieces that I could or together but I'm tired, I'm done, I'm exhausted & truthfully I need my Heavenly Father to be the footsteps in the sand bc I just can't do this at all anymore, I have zero left in me, no strength, it's way too much for me. I may think of mourning myself bc that sounds about right for me anyway. Please just keep me in y'all's prayers! TY 🙏💔😭
@CebimdekiTelefon69
@CebimdekiTelefon69 18 күн бұрын
What made you think they never mourned your loss?
@Gotoworkkk
@Gotoworkkk 18 күн бұрын
Sometimes people are just not meant to be in relationships❤ I’m definitely one of them.
@teutonic4270
@teutonic4270 17 күн бұрын
@@Gotoworkkk but do you have to? because the cheaters should be the ones that aren't meant to be in a relationship imo...they will probably repeat their toxicity again and again
@Gotoworkkk
@Gotoworkkk 17 күн бұрын
@@teutonic4270 absolutely not. You could do whatever you’d like to do. Not everybody is a cheater. I, personally just don’t do well with relationships.
@Francie315
@Francie315 20 күн бұрын
I know it has definitely changed me! I am slow to let people in my life and quick to cut them out! I have no family ties!
@saulbeiza7303
@saulbeiza7303 20 күн бұрын
Good you can finally start being yourself
@MarthaBenefield
@MarthaBenefield 17 күн бұрын
Same here.I am 84 and it has all been just to much.At this age there is no hope.I am content to just be alone.
@fluffedsquirrel
@fluffedsquirrel 15 күн бұрын
​@@MarthaBenefield There is hope at any age, just gotta know where to look, to find new friends/partners.
@GloriousVictorious
@GloriousVictorious 20 күн бұрын
It's happened so many times I just go straight to numb and that's where I stay
@user-ex3mx7hk4l
@user-ex3mx7hk4l 19 күн бұрын
💔😢❤
@gracerules2423
@gracerules2423 17 күн бұрын
Same.
@lafytaffy1220
@lafytaffy1220 15 күн бұрын
Tough but true. I've just accepted that we live in a world of sinners and I've adjusted my expectations and boundaries accordingly.
@monicam8408
@monicam8408 13 күн бұрын
Functional Freeze?
@ceciliebille8501
@ceciliebille8501 20 күн бұрын
Betrayal also can become great relief. Cause your greatest fear happened, and so, at least for a while, you have nothing to fear anymore.
@benguensche
@benguensche 20 күн бұрын
i know what you mean... sometimes it's even quite hilarious in a dark humor sort of way
@imsaltylit3101
@imsaltylit3101 20 күн бұрын
Maybe not relief from the betrayal itself, but definitely the confirmation of betrayal … knowing you’re not paranoid, imagining things, etc This in the context of a spouse cheating for example
@Lyrielonwind
@Lyrielonwind 20 күн бұрын
Not in my case. Fear has become a major issue for me.
@ceciliebille8501
@ceciliebille8501 20 күн бұрын
@@Lyrielonwind i used to get anxiety-attacks, out of nowhere. They appeared as if the world around me suddenly became 2 dimentional and mooved like waves or spinning. It is terrifying. One day I got another attack, while waiting for a bus. But instead of being terrorised by it, I got this thought from out of nowhere, "let's see how terrified I can be", and I really felt the terror so hard I could. This happened automatically, my body did it for me. And after 2 seconds in terrible terror, it stopped. I have never gotten these attacks again. Emotions cannot be intellectualized away by thinking correctly, they can only be felt away by enduring the feeling. I don't know why I tell you this. If you can use it, fine, if not, that is also fine. Your body can be very smart and helpful, sometimes. I salute you, fearfriend. The world can be a terrible place to be. I hope your fear will dissolve into a summers breeze. You're not alone.
@tmking7483
@tmking7483 20 күн бұрын
​@@ceciliebille8501what I'm feeling about triggers is that being a person who was abused as a kid _ that a person who is not very aware of their behavior ( an abuser) is triggering u into fear _anger or rage of being invalidated for being alive. I'm learning to understand that when I get triggered in a particular environment _ there's a wolf around _ better close the gate.
@cynthiapedram1779
@cynthiapedram1779 18 күн бұрын
I have been betrayed by husband on numerous occasions unfortunately still with him despite all the hurt and betrayal I endured we just live as flat mates virtually seperated just living in the sane house due to kids:finance etc issues but Desperate to get out some how soon and not to have to constantly be facing my betrayer and be reminded of this negative stuff. It’s very humiliating and degrading in a way to know your living with some one who has caused so much trauma and pain in your life.😢
@21m455
@21m455 15 күн бұрын
God I couldn't, your stronger than me, I would need to leave
@shwetaprabhu6754
@shwetaprabhu6754 13 күн бұрын
They don't trust you either
@superpachelle
@superpachelle 10 күн бұрын
It won’t get better 21 years just got worse nothing you do will ever be enough until you leave and even after then they want to see you gone permanently. That is the whole agenda these people are not human they are dealing with sonic entities. Please be safe!🙏🏽❤️
@superpachelle
@superpachelle 10 күн бұрын
dominic
@doinkclown7020
@doinkclown7020 9 күн бұрын
I’ve been through similar. I stayed for 5 years because of the kids. Found out of a betrayal in 2015 and talked with her and forgave her within a month somehow. And then on October 12, 2019 things seemed off and I found out that she had never stopped cheating and it grew exponentially. Saw videos of her having sex with others on her phone. I tried staying because of the kids and spent over ten grand on counseling and medicine. And then in august of 2022 I realized that she will never change. I wish I had left on day one in 2015. I would be in a much better place today.
@ceciliebille8501
@ceciliebille8501 20 күн бұрын
I am so used to betrayal i am not surprised anymore, it is rather the general rule. I grief, and allow myself to do that, remind myself about the truth, and awaits for the body to regain its strength. Routine of betrayal helps me to remember that the terror in the body will pass.
@cameliaturda6472
@cameliaturda6472 20 күн бұрын
Aproape orice relație e o iluzie , începând cu cea a părinților din care ne-am născut . Căsătoria e o mare farsă și oamenii tac pentru că nu-și pot asuma vieți personale în afara modelelor ăstora erodante . Ne ia aproape o viață să ieșim din tristețe și furie și-apoi ne vedem singuri pentru că nu ne lăsăm manipulați sau refuzam să manipulăm pentru a ne ușura zilele . În familia mea avem de lucrat la suicid recurent ( Michael Newton , Viața dintre vieți ) și e nevoie ca măcar o persoană într-o generație să spună lucrurilor pe nume , cu prețul imens de-a rămâne în autenticitate . Am 52 de ani și m-a marcat rolul de mamă , însă copiii au plecat pentru a-și putea trăi propriul adevăr și eu mă caut ca niciodată , în mine , pentru că orice altceva în afara de natură și animale mă erodează . Din când în când mai pot să mă uit la un om ca acesta . Te salut .
@ceciliebille8501
@ceciliebille8501 20 күн бұрын
@@RavenStealstheNight I know! Happiness is short-lived. Evolution has not been too generous with human beings. I guess our big brains got in the way.
@Lion-rf8xi
@Lion-rf8xi 20 күн бұрын
​@@RavenStealstheNight I would just assume someone asking me to "trust them." Probably just trying to set me up somehow probably not real just trying to learn about me to destroy me. Sadly it's probably true I do attract those kinda people like my whole life.
@ajh3301
@ajh3301 18 күн бұрын
This is so good! My husband left after 24 years together without expressing why and without allowing any discussion. I found out later that there was someone else in the picture. To complicate matters, I have an autoimmune disease that has caused some disability so I felt betrayed on many levels. I experienced most of the issues on those lists but didn’t know they were normal or common which added a layer of complexity in that I felt guilty for feeling what I was feeling. I got the sense that I should “get over it” or that I should be done grieving by now. I needed to talk about it but people would get so uncomfortable that I felt I couldn’t. So hard! Thank goodness I found an excellent therapist. It took me three years to heal enough to try relationship again. Five years post divorce I am remarried and doing well. It still hurts but less often and less intensely.
@StarCoded
@StarCoded 14 күн бұрын
You could consult a Registered Homeopath about the auto-immune. Fairly affordable, absolutely safe, and simple drops.
@boomersD9CAT
@boomersD9CAT 16 күн бұрын
It’s been 18 months, and I don’t know if I’ll ever come to terms with what she’s done. My Confidence is in the gutter,I don’t socialize or even call my friends back. I stepped back from running my business, and nothing seems to excite me. The only thing keeping me going is working out in my basement gym *alone* so I can collect my thoughts. Things have gotten a little better since the initial shock, and I feel like I will eventually turn a corner thanks to my faith. 🙏🏼
@StarCoded
@StarCoded 14 күн бұрын
Arm yourself with the skills and knowledge for quickly recognising the traits of a narcissist personality disorder (manipulative, exploitative, false ally / abuser). There are many videos and interviews on this topic (KZbin).
@HikerGirl-ct3nd
@HikerGirl-ct3nd 13 күн бұрын
I am going through exactly the same right now and only things keeps me going is working out
@manichairdo9265
@manichairdo9265 12 күн бұрын
It was about her. Not you. I hope you can get to the place where she has no further negative power over you. Maybe one day you can resume the friendships you have since rejected.
@suzannortega6671
@suzannortega6671 11 күн бұрын
Surrender , have no expectations & get out of your own head. You are not the problem & this plan will bring you peace moving forward..
@suzannortega6671
@suzannortega6671 11 күн бұрын
You are NOT the problem.
@MissSways.
@MissSways. 15 күн бұрын
I think it’s reasonable to assume that most, if not all, people will experience some type of betrayal in their lifetime. God is the only One you can trust. Thank God he created animals (especially dogs) because they are the most loyal and loving creatures. I trust animals more than humans 🙏❤️🐶
@courtneybrubaker9738
@courtneybrubaker9738 20 күн бұрын
This has been the deepest wound- betrayed my parents, especially mom and dad would back her no matter what. It’s left my trust bucket empty.
@caroleminke6116
@caroleminke6116 20 күн бұрын
Trust yourself ❤️‍🩹 you’ve got this!
@saulbeiza7303
@saulbeiza7303 20 күн бұрын
Yep, I feel the same way as you
@Lyrielonwind
@Lyrielonwind 20 күн бұрын
I have survived couple and friendship betrayal trauma but the last one I have come to realized, mother and siblings betrayal is the one that has sent me to a deep hole I don't know how to get out. It's the ultimate betrayal 😢 Five years and counting
@thebluebutterfly5177
@thebluebutterfly5177 20 күн бұрын
I don’t know about anyone else, but in I don’t want to have this. I’ve done Harbouring Hope with Affair Recovery and they cover things in a great way. But Jesus Christ as I’ve just said further up has been such a help. He takes the weight of expectation that I’m meant to have it. That doesn’t mean I give any responsibility that I need to take on myself but the stuff outside of that in betrayal can very often be too much. I do empathise, have gone through those very same feelings of feeling I’ve nothing left. Praying and sending you love ❤️🙏🏻
@ndl78
@ndl78 20 күн бұрын
@@Lyrielonwindyou must be the scapegoat because same 😢
@Canaday291
@Canaday291 20 күн бұрын
This describes Exactly what being married to a malignant narcissist caused . He was not only abusive mentally and physically, but he also cheated and abandoned my 3 young children and I . Immeasurable irreparable damage he caused including dismantling our family on his self serving destructive path as ironically he’s still the only one happily thriving in his carefree world.
@lwells3937
@lwells3937 13 күн бұрын
This is more than your partner, this can go back to being scapegoated by your family.
@michaelcohen7343
@michaelcohen7343 18 күн бұрын
My heart is broken
@gorunsko31
@gorunsko31 20 күн бұрын
Betrayal trauma happens also when you have a bad fall, you know you broke your spine ( compression fracture of L1), the pain takes your breath away, you beg him to drive you to the hospital ( only 2 miles), but he says: no! Than you ask him to call 911, “no!” Again. He is tired and is Christmas, he wants to go home now. You get scared of his lack of empathy and ask for hiking poles. He agrees. You crawl in great pain, home, to lay on the ice pack, to survive the night, to wait for Urgent Care to be reopen. He agrees to drive you there. The X-ray confirms your perception, but you cannot help but wonder… would the damage be lesser, if only he would dial 911, 32 hours earlier… and now you know you have no right ever to be in need of care. He is so careful for months not to stay home. He leaves home for hours at the time. You call friends, they bring food, soup and concern. You live on crumbs bc you want to live for children and grandchildren, but what about living for me? Thank you, Tim. God bless you for your heart and your wisdom as well, and for your generosity. ❤
@nickandrews2255
@nickandrews2255 19 күн бұрын
I see you expressing this story as your story or your experience. I hope you get the care / love / respect that you deserve. Cheers All the best.
@gorunsko31
@gorunsko31 19 күн бұрын
@@nickandrews2255 thank you. I see how many spelling errors I made ( will edit soon), so I couldn’t help myself, but let the pain to emerge, because I felt safe in this group. I felt I can be believed. He is known to be a nice guy, he married me so I would “take care” of him. If I am vulnerable, he may feel threatened by it and punishes me. I appreciate being heard in this forum. Not a native speaker of English, I dared to share. My trust is in Tim and people who follow him.
@Remi_Taj_Nanny
@Remi_Taj_Nanny 19 күн бұрын
That would have been a very traumatic experience 😢 I'm so sorry you went through that. Can I ask why you couldn't call 911?
@0208connie
@0208connie 19 күн бұрын
Ive had a very similar experience. I determined, after I divorced him, that he is a covert narcissist. Greatest move i made was just leaving him. Turns out he had a whole other life situation going on with someone else.
@gorunsko31
@gorunsko31 19 күн бұрын
@@0208connie covert narcissist sounds accurate. So happy for you, you liberated yourself from this dangerous in the long run, situation.
@sarahalderman3126
@sarahalderman3126 19 күн бұрын
Damn, this describes my entire life experience. From toddlerhood on, sexual abuse, physical abuse, violence always present, repeated medical trauma from anaphylaxis, repeated joint dislocation (extremely painful), surgical infections, seizures and then brain surgery… all before I was 21. Got married to my high school sweetheart, who cheated with multiple women, including my sister and friends. My life has been a nightmare and a waste. I am tired and sick of trying. I don’t care anymore. I am done trying for everyone else’s comfort. I am doing only what I absolutely HAVE to. I paid off my home, quit driving due to seizures, and spent twenty years supporting my cheating husband. He can pay the bill until I die. Idgaf anymore.
@bjacob9998
@bjacob9998 17 күн бұрын
Sarah, Im so sorry. What kind of people see this going on and don’t offer help? Many women are tricked back by forgetting/death. I pray some good people will come to you and that doesn’t happen. I do gaf about you. Sending love🙏💐
@peterjeffery8495
@peterjeffery8495 20 күн бұрын
Childhood trauma can inhibit emotional development making the "who do you trust" part of life very difficult. I was Groomed at 40 years old by a woman who was a professional Therapist (MSW) and a dyed in the wool Narcissist. I will never recover from the damage she inflicted.
@tmking7483
@tmking7483 20 күн бұрын
Yes we can - Jesus will show u. Me too I was and continue to be professionally groomed for performance and patents_ if your creative _ hide it. If your truly unique as God created u _ in this World _ HIDE your gifts from the Pigs. It wants to clone u _ for it's dead baby army _ exploits you for anything _ as like as u full of fear and anger _ this 'Jing aThing' gets to live in the bacteria around you_waiting for it's ultimate take over of your behavior _ you'll live be in childhood abuse perceptions for the rest of your life_ staying triggered in betrayal_ Jesus is the way and life out of this snare _ a good of book is the Bait of Satan.
@gorunsko31
@gorunsko31 20 күн бұрын
Ouch! I am sorry this happened to you. Developing trust in setting boundaries by your own self ( what is acceptable to you and what is not), may help you feel safer. Don’t give up. Never ever blame yourself. The betrayal by the therapist is criminal, not just an unprofessional conduct. This kind of toxic behavior belongs to the abuser. Sorry to say, the predators are everywhere, even among those who suppose to heal us. Best wishes on your path to healing.
@peterjeffery8495
@peterjeffery8495 19 күн бұрын
@@gorunsko31 Thanks very much for your thoughtful reply. I can't tell you how impactful your words are.
@Ricky-mouser
@Ricky-mouser 19 күн бұрын
It could be worse, she could still be in your life.
@peterjeffery8495
@peterjeffery8495 18 күн бұрын
@@Ricky-mouser Thanks Rocky. Very true and well said
@lab4389
@lab4389 13 күн бұрын
Having been estranged for 2 years from my son has put me in such pain that I started having health issues. I’m 67 and I don’t know many years I have left. I cry about not being able to see my little granddaughter. She won’t know me. I just lost my mom and I didn’t even hear from him. I am a shell of my former self. I ruminate about what I must have done. I didn’t drink or drug, I was very responsible. I had shown him love. I beat myself up about this daily. So yes, I do feel betrayed. I certainly have gone through many those stages. I am becoming a recluse. I don’t like being around people anymore. Somehow, I must be a bad person. I can’t seem to move forward. Blessings to everyone hurting from betrayal. 💔
@normastewart3868
@normastewart3868 4 күн бұрын
God bless you. It must be horrible. He’ll return one day. Don’t stop trying to communicate. 🙏
@cupcake0480
@cupcake0480 20 күн бұрын
Was sexually abused by a man I knew, his wife found out and proceeded to cover up what he’d done - she had concrete proof AND he’d done it before! - and to help the cover up, she praised him as a great man publicly. So that those who didn’t know wouldn’t believe it. Her betrayal of a fellow woman was worse for me than being abused by her husband.
@katherinealba6768
@katherinealba6768 17 күн бұрын
That 'wife' committed a crime. Report it.
@valerieelisebethcooper83
@valerieelisebethcooper83 14 күн бұрын
That's exactly what happened to me in the UK. I begged the wife to help me but she ignored me with a cold face. I reported it, but 9 years later still trying to get justice. I will never give up.
@peachesandpoets
@peachesandpoets 13 күн бұрын
I'm so sorry
@drivethruabortion280
@drivethruabortion280 12 күн бұрын
Trump?
@DenshaOtoko2
@DenshaOtoko2 18 күн бұрын
I've been betrayed 7 times by a close friend. I'm now more guarded and careful about how and who to curate in my social circle.
@JoeBlow-tf4cc
@JoeBlow-tf4cc 13 күн бұрын
No, you've been betrayed 7 times by an enemy.
@joelunchbucket
@joelunchbucket 8 күн бұрын
Raising plants can be therapeutic. Feedback is slow, and forgiveness for mistakes can show quickly. The rewards can be a beautiful bloom, or a tasty food ingredient. It's nice to be outside too.
@saulbeiza7303
@saulbeiza7303 20 күн бұрын
I just don’t want to live with my family anymore. They’re the reason that I’m this way. I know I can change. I know I can do this, but I just can’t be around my abusers no more. I don’t wanna look them in the face anymore. I don’t want to hear them
@torment5542
@torment5542 20 күн бұрын
It's hard to heal in the same place we were hurt 😢
@peachesandpoets
@peachesandpoets 13 күн бұрын
Work really hard to get away. I spent my days and evenings in my car for a bit, I'd spend most of my time out of the house except going home at night to sleep. I'd go to the library and apply for gigs and jobs etc. Being around them makes it very difficult to move on
@caryngayfield6218
@caryngayfield6218 20 күн бұрын
My mother was a narcissist and my father was an alcoholic who abandoned me and my two brothers as children. I do not think betrayal trauma ever completely goes away.
@StarCoded
@StarCoded 14 күн бұрын
I know someone with the same story (then she married an equally bad abuser). She now says, the only person who could help her is a hypnotherapist whose practice is called Spirit Release Therapy / Spirit Release And Psychotherapy.
@janpoore3333
@janpoore3333 18 күн бұрын
The self hatred that comes from wondering how i could "let myself" fall for the betrayer (my ex husband cheated with my good friend) is debilitating. Its a pervasive belief now that all of my close relationships are sure to fail, and they'll surely hurt me. I don’t trust easily, and I'm cynical, jaded, depressed, and angry.
@Relaxingwithpigeons
@Relaxingwithpigeons 13 күн бұрын
I am so sorry. My heart was destroyed by my ex husband and I have no idea how to trust another man again. So lonely, and he's already remarried 😢
@mikethomas4210
@mikethomas4210 12 күн бұрын
@@Relaxingwithpigeons He's someone elses problem now. Like the song goes "The next you cheat it's not going to be on me."
@starsapphirelee5714
@starsapphirelee5714 9 күн бұрын
Same here.
@starsapphirelee5714
@starsapphirelee5714 9 күн бұрын
​@@Relaxingwithpigeons I'd feel sorry for her...
@1ofwon
@1ofwon 6 күн бұрын
The blame is not on you. It’s on them for being despicable. You’re a good heart. Give yourself Grace.
@got2kittys
@got2kittys 17 күн бұрын
Betrayal can cause an emotional PTSD, that takes as big a toll as physical trauma.
@danwelterweight4137
@danwelterweight4137 5 күн бұрын
Absolutely. You are so right. I felt exactly like that. It took me years to get over it. But now I am good.
@santalenacaudillo1185
@santalenacaudillo1185 20 күн бұрын
Thank You, Tim F., for your exceptionally developed skill at putting this type of information into easily learned tools. Your Life is making a profound and positive difference in so many lives, including mine and those whom I touch and Love. Keep growing and sharing. Eternally appreciated. 🙏🏽❤️🦋
@cindirose3390
@cindirose3390 19 күн бұрын
Large parts of our lives get cut out after betrayal, like churchbor social groups, relations with relatives or co-workers, sometimes we have to leave our homes or even towns, and we have to re-evaluate how we make new relationships, and we don't trust ourselves in the future. Many of us end up disconnected to our families and friendlesd. A large part of our self-confidence is cut out from our souls. Betrayal probably damages us as much as a heart attack event. Becoming a cynical person is tge longterm effect, what a loss.
@jo-annahicks3324
@jo-annahicks3324 19 күн бұрын
One of the best explainations of he effects, & symptoms of Betrayal Trauma I have ever heard...spot on!
@emilysnyder4857
@emilysnyder4857 19 күн бұрын
I've struggled with all these things. I'm trying to find healing. I'm glad this guy dropped into my feed.
@alicearcturus8610
@alicearcturus8610 15 күн бұрын
I have suicidal ideation but then I remind myself I'm free. All those years, 25, of settling for a marriage that was awful in a quiet desperate way. He left me penniless. He left when I couldn't work and my savings was gone. But I'm free! I have most of these symptoms that were listed. I live for my pets. They need me. I struggle to feed them. My most helpful phrase I repeat...it is what it is, accept it. I'm older and don't have much hope in ever being happy or secure again. I find moments of joy with pets and nature. Life is hard. For everyone.
@Relaxingwithpigeons
@Relaxingwithpigeons 13 күн бұрын
I am living for my animals too and my mother. So we have to keep going don't we. I lost my home too and do not have enough money to get my own home. So I have to live with my brother and his wife and my mom lives there too. I feel like an intruder. So sad most of the time. Even though I have therapy, on meds, have family emotional support. I still am so sad. I was with him for over 25 years.
@Xzerbit
@Xzerbit 10 күн бұрын
Life is damn hard, yes. but giving up doesnt help u either, we define how we want our lives and then work towards reaching that goal, that will be damn hard too, but beats settling for hopelessness and contentment of current situation, yes?
@angiespiva5304
@angiespiva5304 20 күн бұрын
The betrayal in my life brought me to the emotional pain to where I finally reached out for help. I finally realize that the betrayal was actually me. Not an easy thing to take in yet. I know that it wasn’t my fault. Re-Reparenting has helped me to learn that I don’t have to go through this again, not in the way that I was doing it. Listening to Tim has made me realize all the unsafe people that I have normalized and put in my life. I now know what is familiar and I now know the partners that I pick are unsafe.. I also now know that I can trust my intuition and I can trust myself and I can speak up for my emotions and feelings and set boundaries so I can keep myself safe. Discernment is key.
@hopecoachkelli
@hopecoachkelli 17 күн бұрын
My life in a nutshell. All of it at different times. I have come a long way, but am nowhere near where I need to be. I get mad at myself with my actions. The disregulation is the worst for me.
@hopecoachkelli
@hopecoachkelli 15 күн бұрын
Abandoned by my father, then cheated on for years by my husband who eventually left me after those stressful years, then emotional abuse from 2nd husband who had online affairs with multiple women and he eventually found one he married online after I left him. (Probably because I wanted to be first to control it) I have decided I'm best on my own. Casual friendships for companionship but nothing serious. I do not want to get hurt again. Plus, I know I'm a lot to handle.
@Xzerbit
@Xzerbit 10 күн бұрын
But ur aware of urself, u say u disregulate, good! awareness is progress, now learn how to heal that part of u. and dont get mad at urself, we all fail, and thats okay too, none of us is 100% good at anything from the first try, its a learning curve, there will be a lota fail but also a lota wins, keep ur focus on the wins and learn from the fails. and know that theres always tomorrow and this isnt a race u need to win, take the time u need, to heal u, but dont neglect self love on the way, take the small wins and make them big, because, to u, they are big wins. and celebrate them. it will help u stay motivated too.
@hopecoachkelli
@hopecoachkelli 9 күн бұрын
@@Xzerbit thank you.
@agatamakulska4442
@agatamakulska4442 20 күн бұрын
I have been betrayed on so many levels. First I found out my husband is a covert narcissist. Hence my mental deterioration over the years and also physical. In the meantime after years of hostility from my family I decided to cut ties. There is only so muchyou can take and on top of that my husbands family turned their backs on me when I told to my ex to move out after years of abuse. I am alone, its a fact. Iam not imagining anything.
@VanessaDayleRaeWaggoner
@VanessaDayleRaeWaggoner 20 күн бұрын
Same
@gkauto1959
@gkauto1959 15 күн бұрын
now live the life you were supposed to! you are no longer trapped by them, so go out and have yourself a good time, travel and relax. they cant fuk you over anymore, whats not to like?
@agatamakulska4442
@agatamakulska4442 15 күн бұрын
@@gkauto1959well the betrayal is real and I still have two children with him. We were together 20 years. I cant enjoy myself cause he is still around and I am building my life from scratch: no job, as was stay at home mom. Now kids are still small and I have no support system to take a full time job. Not to mention travelling.
@SingBluebird
@SingBluebird 20 күн бұрын
This is exactly me. I've been betrayed in romantic relationships before, but most recently have been betrayed at work. My hard work was discarded and I was stabbed in the back by an executive. I've had a hard time overcoming it. I am struggling to continue to work for this company that I feel doesn't value me or my work. What is the point now? What if the next project I work on just gets discarded without any consideration to me? I don't know if I can get past this and probably need to look for a new job. I don't like working for a company that betrays or stabs people in the back.
@kayireland4156
@kayireland4156 20 күн бұрын
I'm sorry this happened to you
@whatiactuallywanttowatch8802
@whatiactuallywanttowatch8802 20 күн бұрын
Same happened with me recently. Put 3 years of hard work leading the game project only to get stabbed in a back (losing my leading position and all creative control) by new producer coming to project being close to public release. I guess I'll keep working for a while to care about my people and to finish the project, but I feel very cruel about all this situation.
@ceciliebille8501
@ceciliebille8501 20 күн бұрын
@@SingBluebird I know, been there done that, what a waste of time and energy and trust. It will happen again, but next time you are better prepared. Don't give up. You know your craft. You know what you can do.
@gorunsko31
@gorunsko31 20 күн бұрын
This happened to my adult daughter. I am happy to share she found a new job, where she is appreciated. Believe in your skills and your worth. Looking for a new job will empower you. Even if you don’t get an offer, just getting job interview will help you to recognize your value. Best wishes. Save the loyalty for yourself not for the employer. You come first.
@ceciliebille8501
@ceciliebille8501 20 күн бұрын
@@SingBluebird If they get away with it, or even are rewarded for the misdeeds, they will continue doing it. You know your worth, or else you would have made up all kinds of excuses for them. Don’t give up. Now you know better.
@garnetandgold07
@garnetandgold07 12 күн бұрын
After giving my kids everything I worked for and being there for every need, when I broke my ribs they just left me. I wasn't valuable anymore so they want nothing to do with me since I need some help. It's been awful. Worse than death.
@kr0wn.aSSaSSin
@kr0wn.aSSaSSin 11 күн бұрын
It sucks to give ur family ur all just for it to be *crickets* once ur the one in need of help. It is like a death.💔
@elizabethschuler8890
@elizabethschuler8890 20 күн бұрын
This list of betrayal trauma symptoms is what I am experiencing in divorce. Forget the five stages of grief - the betrayal trauma list is actually reflective of the realities I am experiencing.
@vikingprincess634
@vikingprincess634 15 күн бұрын
The shame is often overbearing - feeling ugly, boring, uninteresting, etc. Then you withdraw into yourself and stay there.
@user-te8qr5jt1g
@user-te8qr5jt1g 16 күн бұрын
This sounds like some of the same symptoms of grief of a loved one. I’ve recently been through both. I’m sorry if you feel this way also.
@mercurious5053
@mercurious5053 19 күн бұрын
When you've worked through all the layers of emotions you end up in disappointment. I'm done getting disappointed so that kind of relationship is not for me. Life's simply too short.
@Deelynn-woohoo
@Deelynn-woohoo 17 күн бұрын
In this instance, it serves me well to believe I was never loved much by anyone. This makes things easier, when you kind of expect this in life. My advice is to find little things you like. Focus on them and block out everyone else for the most part. Be self-sufficient. Nothing really matters anyway. Make the best of it while you're here
@zaram131
@zaram131 19 күн бұрын
Every thought you’re saying out loud is true. I feel all of these all the time.
@thatswhatisaid8908
@thatswhatisaid8908 20 күн бұрын
Not just betrayal. Abuse, too.
@lillian3890
@lillian3890 12 күн бұрын
I feel like it made me such an angry person that never trusted another soul again. I don't even care to sugar coat or lie to someone, even if it would help that person out because to me, lying is betrayal in itself. I can't tell you how many people I've pushed away because of how difficult i am and I hate that I hurt others. But i would much rather hurt you with the truth than to use, lie and mislead you.
@Sarah-with-an-H
@Sarah-with-an-H 19 күн бұрын
After my cousin threw knives at my feet when i was a kid i became atheist. This video is helping me see what happened 40 years ago was more than just one event where i wasn't safe it was a betrayal trauma because my mom after that trumatic event said shed handle it, but i wasn't safe i was forced to pretend things where ok and she is the reason why im as broken as i am because she chose her sister out of her own fears and compromised my safety. The betrayal trauma is because my safety wasn't a priority. Thats incredibly heartbreaking
@drivethruabortion280
@drivethruabortion280 12 күн бұрын
OK, that isn't good enough reason to go atheist.
@nicolasrose6523
@nicolasrose6523 17 күн бұрын
I've been betrayed by my brother who preferred to stay loyal to this crazy family, 40 years of lies and abuses, I've lost everything, spend all my money and energy... Fortunately I'm a fighter, I'll go on fighting all by myself, no more fear, just life and love, my way, my rules now.
@gorunsko31
@gorunsko31 20 күн бұрын
All of the above. 😢
@derekwhite2929
@derekwhite2929 20 күн бұрын
It's not so much the betraying that's bothering me, it's the fact of it's being continuous for so many decades and that it's not just friends and family but Dr's and nurses and countless others to!
@AugustSun_3
@AugustSun_3 20 күн бұрын
Thank you for this one. I didn't realize all of the ramifications, and how much I need to understand my own reactions better.
@bernstock
@bernstock 20 күн бұрын
That’s all described very well indeed. It’s been many years now, but I still suffer from most of these symptoms despite solid efforts to overcome it. Therapy, exercise, etc etc. I wonder if it will ever go away or am I permanently warped? Time will tell.
@Xzerbit
@Xzerbit 10 күн бұрын
from my experience, it will be up and down, lota downs, but even with diagnosed cptsd, i was told it was permanent, it isnt, for me so far, its one hell of a battle, but determination and willpower goes a long way. so far its been extremely lowered, the worst parts are gone, now whats left is the small fixes that needs healing, betrayal was a huge part of this. from my pov, nothing is ever permanent, in the psyche, if u decide u wont let it be so, and then work towards reaching that goal. but thats personal opinion. theres always hope.
@bernstock
@bernstock 7 күн бұрын
@@Xzerbit Thank you, I really appreciate this comment
@DolceIbarra
@DolceIbarra 20 күн бұрын
So how do we recover?
@michelepascoe6068
@michelepascoe6068 16 күн бұрын
More physical symptoms can include hair loss and outbreaks of excema (which you may never have had before).
@RebeccaRuano
@RebeccaRuano 11 күн бұрын
6:37 check, check, check all. Repeated betrayal throughout my childhood makes this echo in my entire being. ❤ thank you! ❤ working in trust and esteem right now. ❤
@trulifelight3617
@trulifelight3617 19 күн бұрын
I'm so grateful you added the spiritual symptoms as well. As a believer, it can be hard to admit these true feelings.
@lindamceachern5467
@lindamceachern5467 20 күн бұрын
Thank you for this Tim.❤
@rickdworsky6457
@rickdworsky6457 11 күн бұрын
If you trust yourself you can never be betrayed. Paint your world with love and it will shine. It's the only source of light that can illuminate your world. If you don't shine on the world, don't expect it to shine on you.
@sumofl
@sumofl 19 күн бұрын
Thanks for the videos, Tim. You and your words are much appreciated.
@debbiepeterson6829
@debbiepeterson6829 20 күн бұрын
I knew about the cheating I just didn't expect him to try and kill me to collect my life insurance so he could live out the rest of his life in high style, especially since he made sure we never had. I still don't know what happened to my 90000. Go in for surgery and come out broke.
@StarCoded
@StarCoded 14 күн бұрын
I wonder if you could report that major theft. Was that a "joint account"? If not, it is a major fraud. You could show a Police detective the balance of your account on the date you entered hospital, and the balance when you were discharged. They have experts for detecting online fraud. And they usually despise such appalling criminal injustice.
@user-iy2jn1ge1o
@user-iy2jn1ge1o 14 күн бұрын
The hardest part of a betrayal is the self blame and feeling of being abandoned.
@drivethruabortion280
@drivethruabortion280 12 күн бұрын
It never comes from an enemy.
@Xzerbit
@Xzerbit 10 күн бұрын
that and i would add the feeling of worthlessness too. beside that, spot on.
@debchase3330
@debchase3330 20 күн бұрын
How about when a spiritual leader betrays you and denies it, and then blames you for their dishonesty? A serious trauma on top of the childhood trauma that brought you to seek help in the first place. But God....
@BarbaraGrigg-mz1bk
@BarbaraGrigg-mz1bk 20 күн бұрын
happened to me too. they are also a therapist. God will be the judge between he and me,
@joeprimal2044
@joeprimal2044 20 күн бұрын
Look up DARVO and covert narcissist. That’s what you guys are dealing with.
@annastone5624
@annastone5624 19 күн бұрын
OMG it’s NOT.. ‘having trust issues’ if you are suspicious of kindness!!! It’s healthy scepticism! So many abusers use kindness and offers of help.. to groom victims - it’s almost standard.
@peachesandpoets
@peachesandpoets 13 күн бұрын
This makes me feel less insane. Thanks
@tmking7483
@tmking7483 20 күн бұрын
Thanks I needed a summary ❤
@scottallen5269
@scottallen5269 19 күн бұрын
To be stripped of your ability to give and love the way you once did, is the worst part for me. Oh… and the suicidal thoughts, that had a rope around my neck and rocking back bed forth on a chair, and also playing Russian roulette a handful of times. I’m past those lows but it still scares me that I could even go there. Good video… thank you for sharing
@GramCracker77
@GramCracker77 17 күн бұрын
I am so glad you survived those evil temptations!!
@scottallen5269
@scottallen5269 17 күн бұрын
@@GramCracker77 thank you… nice to actually hear that. Hope peace stays with you on your journey. Sending you good vibes!!!
@GramCracker77
@GramCracker77 17 күн бұрын
@@scottallen5269 thank you!! This journey is tough. I couldn't make it without Jesus!! What doesn't kill you truly does make you stronger!
@scottallen5269
@scottallen5269 17 күн бұрын
@@GramCracker77 agreed!!! I think HE, is the only strength and hope that gets me through it. Health first Happiness always
@GramCracker77
@GramCracker77 17 күн бұрын
@@scottallen5269 Im so HAPPY to hear that!! 💞
@jayhulrs1435
@jayhulrs1435 20 күн бұрын
Wow every page, yes. I will never betray someone after feeling this pain.
@user-vr1uh5ze7u
@user-vr1uh5ze7u 13 күн бұрын
Appreciate your understanding and empathy.
@leesanderson6885
@leesanderson6885 17 күн бұрын
The feeling that they were your everything...you valued their existence..tresured their body their heart and soul. And you are nothing to them. He treated me as if I was very adored. Then ghosted after they returned back to their country. . The feeling of being cancelled is very damaging.
@Xzerbit
@Xzerbit 10 күн бұрын
im sorry u had that experience, but know, this was about them, not u.
@JessicaC.
@JessicaC. 20 күн бұрын
I absolutely love the decor in your home and your wall is beautiful!
@Iamnosey
@Iamnosey 5 күн бұрын
💔 this list makes a lot of sense for me. Thank you!
@user-fy4gm8lq9w
@user-fy4gm8lq9w 16 күн бұрын
Betrayal in the work place you become detached from every one you want to be alone you feel violated.
@sw6118
@sw6118 20 күн бұрын
After those first responses is relief. Now you know who you are really dealing with.
@tmking7483
@tmking7483 20 күн бұрын
I was telling my parents i mattered since i was a toddler _ nobody like listened but i kept on going because my imaginary friend Jesus told me to keep going forward _ that I will find the North Star _ and I did _its Jesus _ I had already found him _ he was hidden in my heart.
@00TheD
@00TheD 20 күн бұрын
I hope more and more people hear you explain them you themselves. The real candian hero
@mkultra9896
@mkultra9896 13 күн бұрын
It’s always been 5 puzzles mixed with no lids for reference! This defines so many legitimate overwhelming truths that once noted, help me to understand the what and why of My feelings. Thank you for this 😊
@theoracle5265
@theoracle5265 20 күн бұрын
Tim my brother, Thank You for these insights God Bless and much love to you
@Girlwithapurse03
@Girlwithapurse03 13 күн бұрын
I cried so much watching this you have no idea, i feel validated and seen. Please dont take this video down
@traceysimpson9397
@traceysimpson9397 11 күн бұрын
Fab video thank you. Now I know why I've been feeling so many symptoms 😢
@Natashaleah9
@Natashaleah9 20 күн бұрын
Wow, thank you. I'd never even thought of getting help for this. I've experienced massive amounts of betrayal in my life. That whole list explained what Ive experienced to a tea. Thank you for this informative presentation, it opened my eyes to seeing I need to face and resolve this.
@peggygarcia1131
@peggygarcia1131 20 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@PaigeSquared
@PaigeSquared 20 күн бұрын
Thank you! 😊 It helps me to remember that these symptoms are my brain's very normal response to an abnormal situation. That many/most brains that experience something like mine did, they would have these symptoms, too.
@PaigeSquared
@PaigeSquared 20 күн бұрын
Oh the crying. 😩 Yeah. The first few months it was all the time. Lately the tears are still daily, but closer to 20 minute sessions.
@michaelburnell9406
@michaelburnell9406 20 күн бұрын
What's the tools to heal 🤔
@SuperNeutronX
@SuperNeutronX 16 күн бұрын
I have no trust in Companys anymore its over! Betray pure! This first List is exactly what i have expirienced in my Betray Company ! Thank you!
@user-el9sb3dc1m
@user-el9sb3dc1m 20 күн бұрын
Your husband throws you out of your home by placing all of your clothes in the car and says you’re leaving. That’s the ultimate betrayal. 12 years of taking care of him.
@tmking7483
@tmking7483 20 күн бұрын
Wow _ consider this a gift from God. I'm 63 in a similar situation _ had no Idea_ I was betrayed and used. Be careful and at this point _ not to go reactive and mirror the abuser. That's the whole point of the betrayal _ for u to fall _ and for the abuser to get your blessings. Hold fast and hang on to God _ your going on a roller coaster ride and Jesus is going to show u _ what's up.
@gorunsko31
@gorunsko31 20 күн бұрын
Ouch! I am so sorry. Now is the times to use the energy and skills to take care of you. ❤
@syzygy4365
@syzygy4365 18 күн бұрын
​truth
@ninjacat508
@ninjacat508 17 күн бұрын
That's illegal.
@Xzerbit
@Xzerbit 10 күн бұрын
its heartbreaking to hear u were treated this way, i hope ur in a better place now.
@MalazTX
@MalazTX 11 күн бұрын
Everything was spot on!! I can relate to almost everything!
@kr0wn.aSSaSSin
@kr0wn.aSSaSSin 11 күн бұрын
Wow.😵 Im shocked to see all my issues put into one box & neatly tied with a bow. This all makes sense now!! I was recently diagnosed with trauma response after being misdiagnosed as bi polar type 2 and being on the wrong meds for 12+ years. I’ve been betrayed by *almost* every person in my life in some way.. but ugh, family betrayal completely broken me. It just sucks how others treatment of u can destroy ur entire life.
@carlorizzo827
@carlorizzo827 18 күн бұрын
ThankU Tim. What a comprehensive description 💔 I did not appreciate it at the time, but the betrayal from my family of origin far exceeded anything that followed. I'm old, but when I was young I heard the term "tactile defensive" for that deep reflexive fear of touch. Yup got it. Outa the box sexually. I don't want to stop being trusting. So: I always have a backup plan in case trust is betrayed. I recommend the Arts. I became a dancer, a social art, where i could learn about interaction, that i couldn't learn in the family. I am generous with people, always give'em a break. To trust too much is unfair to them guffaw. I also found amazing friendship in 12 step program, the anti-cult. Oppositional defiance guffaw. Remember that great Groucho Marx song "Whatever it is, I'm against it"
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