How DC Could Fix Their Cinematic Universe

A rundown of how we think Warner Bros. and DC could fix their Cinematic Universe, known as the DCEU!
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[@geekxsir3610]

The most frustrating thing about the DCEU is that DC already created the combined universe in their animated universe DECADES AGO!

[@wend.dancer]

This!

[@albertthepeacock8020]

The other most frustrating thing is that DC/WB has the pantheon of the Batfamily where they could do an Avengers style outing that could rival or possibly surpass the Avengers movies merch alone would make a killing but no they'd rather rehash Batman and Joker again for the 42069th time to try and recapture the magic of Ledger even though Conroy and Hamill did it way before Ledger

[@5Ci0N]

And it's probably the best thing they've ever done. It's a shame, the blueprints were right there!

[@dharitriqw3163]

@@5Ci0N that's because WB executives during that time weren't like dumb like Hamada or Sarnoff...who dont even know how to run the cinematic universes

[@chidieberenwadike4165]

That's why the DCAU is better than the DCEU. Litteraly everyone will agree with that. I know some will disagree but still.

[@AfroRedMusic]

It's wild to me how well DC's got it together in the animation department but can't seem to get the live action on half the same level of quality and consistency 😂

[@dharitriqw3163]

that's because WB executives during that time weren't like dumb like Hamada or Sarnoff...who dont even know how to run the cinematic universes

[@arfhat89]

WB execs probably interfere more with live action since that’s their cash cow while they let the animation department do what they please. Businessmen sometimes don’t understand entertainment.

[@vullord666]

Not necessarily. I think it depends on who you ask, but I found the last animated movie universe (based on the new 52 seemingly) to be so weak. Too many characters were depowered or straight up missing (even more so than the new 52). They also botched classic comic storyline and massively dumbed them down and got the worst of the new 52 (which most everyone didn't like until rebirth). I did enjoy certain stand alone movies (Flashpoint was a gem as a comic book adaption, but I wanted more Martha Wayne Joker (also would have been nice if they delved into the actual background for it and made a movie based on Flash Rebirth first)) and I will say, that minus WW X Supes (still missing My Diana and Bruce from JL/JLU), they had the best ships. Like the Kori and Dick relationship and chemistry was everything I dreamed of from watching TT back in the day (and got utterly disappointed on when comics rolled around with how poorly they seem to handle any relationship (like I did NOT need them retconning Dick into cheating on Kori just to push Dick and Babs)).

[@jmgonzales7701]

Not really, their animations arent doing too well right now. even all of their animation stories don't hold well to spiderverse.

[@jmgonzales7701]

@@dharitriqw3163 they shouldnt have done a cinematic universe to begin with, not everything needs to connect.

[@tommyawsm7132]

I think the funniest thing about rebooting with a Flashpoint (a bit messed up but I still find it funny) is that they can use the opportunity to recast Barry Allen pretty much in the moment of his return to the present and, in turn, be able to blame everything on Ezra Miller’s Flash IN CANON😂😂

[@brianng8350]

They should rewrite and reshoot and have Ezra Flash return in the last half an hour as evil Flash and kill him off…😂😂😂. That would be poetic justice…

[@The_Word_Is_The_Way]

The problem with Warner Bros/DCEU is the people in charge aren't actual fans of comics. That's where Feige is so effective in what he's doing. It's the same in sports: if the owner is not a true fan of the sport (i.e. James Dolan with the NY Knicks), the franchise tends to suffer.

[@archangel5627]

I completely agree. The fact that the Big-Wigs at DC are not fans of DC Comics is a huge problem but their biggest issue is that the WB Execs are still meddling with their directors and producers vision for whatever movie they happen to be working on. More importantly WB needs to hire directors who are extremely passionate about whatever DC project they’re trying to bring to life.

[@jordanhal2814]

Very good analogy.

[@patrickr4762]

100% agree. Its the same with Star Wars w/ Feloni. Massive Star Wars guy.

[@markmolino679]

Oh please, Kevin Feige is an overrated hack.Who rode on the curtails of Jon Favreau, Joss Whedon, James Gunn etc.And look what is happening now when Jon Favreau is not there.MCU has become crap now.

[@hungjaketranquang4365]

Snyder loves the DC comics. And none of y’all gives him a chance

[@sparks2378]

Every superhero fan knows the best way to reset everything is Flashpoint. I didn’t even know what you were going to say and was able to say it three times with you lol. Please DC, make this happen!!!

[@dominiquepowell3158]

Well let's see how the movie will reset everything next year!

[@chidieberenwadike4165]

Isn't the flash film suppose to be flashpoint?

[@LegacyZoinn]

@@chidieberenwadike4165 not necessarily like the one from comics but it’ll be it’s own flashpoint.

[@brighterdesign69]

it's played out - done - fini

[@geleneceline2310]

@@chidieberenwadike4165 it's gonna be it's own story but it's gonna take ideas from flashpoint, when it does happen the dceu will remain mostly the same but Warner brothers Will be able to make any casting choices and make some changes to the timeline to hopefully kick start an MCU like universe

[@omarfernandez5733]

Totally agree. I don’t understand why DC doesn’t just stick to their source material. I mean it’s already written.

[@superjdillydillio9040]

Brilliant idea! This equates to how MCU used the 'multiverse ideal' to repair and sync in all previous Marvel films. This was how they made every Spider-man from 2000 forward relevant. Great suggestion!

[@brianng8350]

I think Marvel made a mistake with the multiverse. Loki and Multiverse of Madness just muddled the universe and storytelling. Eternals and Captain Marvel are making the universe too big and too fast. Still waiting to see how they are going to tie all this together while introducing mutants and Kang. There is no reason to tie the Tobey or Andrew Spider-men to current MCU. These are old franchises; it’s fun fan services, but add no value especially if they don’t plan to do more of the other Spider-Men again. Are they going to tie all the X-Men or Fantastic Four or Blade movies now? Kevin Feige has been pretty controlling on what he wants to allow in the MCU; so, the Spider-Men were a surprise.

[@moonknight2175]

@@brianng8350 clown

[@calebtheowl1516]

@@brianng8350 How did Captain Marvel make the universe too big!? lol

[@otakumarcus]

@@brianng8350 are you hating on the old spider-man films?

[@kocotaso]

Based on the growth Variant has had over the last decade or so, DC should hire him to be apart of that creative team. He’s more than put in the work knowing really what a fan wants.

[@koostheron1038]

Amen I feel half the time the directors and some of the cast dont read enough comics to get the scope of the caracters.

[@TheFLAMEXD]

@@koostheron1038 Getting fans to work on these is also a big risk. There have been some movies/TV shows made by fans and even then, the quality was less than stellar. The Ben Affleck Daredevil movie was directed by a Daredevil fan and even he couldn't make it work.

[@jordanhal2814]

Interesting idea. Based on his KZbin content, I also believe Variant’s DC comics knowledge & related creative sensibilities could be helpful to a DCEU creative team. Maybe that’s an approach DC could try: hire a few fans here and there with deep DC knowledge and creative/storytelling chops as consultants.

[@gerardorodriguez7500]

Well I am looking forward for Shazam 2 and Black Adam, but I hope they make Green Lantern Corp movie in DCEU, and have Fire and Ice have they’re own show and movie

[@hoodiek6802]

Dcau versions

[@gerardorodriguez7500]

@@hoodiek6802 yes they should also do Animated universe, as a matter of fact they should bring back the 90’s DC Animated universe

[@komodosworld3199]

Give Fire and Ice a show AND a movie or just one of the two?

[@gerardorodriguez7500]

@@komodosworld3199 both! Fire and Ice deserves more screen time and attention other then being bystanders

[@LegacyZoinn]

Honestly it’s best recast the justice league and reset this universe and start fresh with new actors playing these characters

[@robd92]

Flashpoint was perfect and I have a feeling that WB is planning to use Ezra Miller’s flash movie to fix the DCEU. Hence, WB trying to push his film. But for sure there will be backlash.

[@dr.iron_bat_prime2.0]

I’ll admit that I agree with you 100% on making the Flashpoint, I do love a few things in the DCEU like Batffleck, Peacemaker, Wonder Woman, & other characters & things here & there. But if I had control over the DCEU, I would basically do a Flashpoint movie to fix something’s here & there but keep all the good things that we all love & enjoy in the DCEU, along with a clear path.

[@MIRLZY]

They've made so hard to be a DC fan.. for so long. I'll always be a DC man but goddamn they don't make it easy

[@harvey2906]

I like the idea of Thomas Wayne as Batman and his wife as Joker. The movie can just become amazing. 😎

[@ECxTheMaster]

She wasn't really in Flashpoint only referenced and a short scene of her going insane and laughing after Bruce's death while Thomas is just beating the mugger to death

[@themarsman5155]

I think they may of been what the flash movie was about because flashpoint is one of the most well known flash stories. The issue is that Ezra Miller messed it up, they likely are going to recast Ezra Miller

[@OshaunWayve]

i have to agree with some others. The animated series are a legit " Its RIGHT THERE!!" moment. The themes, writing, concepts are ALL THERE. And i know that those series are of another era, no one is COMPLETELY SURE it would even translate well today. But it couldn't hurt them anymore then their current slate is. I also agree with Variant, Flashpoint flashpoint flashpoint lmao But if i had to stick with one, it would be the TAS Inspired cinematic universe, its something Marvel doesnt even have, their animated shows were good but nothing like they did with the MCU. With DC, the blueprint is RIGHT.....THERE!!. LOL

[@carlbloke8797]

Well they can always start with taking notes from Superman TAS and Justice League TAS to know how to write a good Superman for movies. Also Tyler Hoechlin is definitely perfect for movies just like the CW show

[@angelglass2618]

Henry is the real Superman the man deserves another tape that Koechlin stays on tv

[@johnlawful2272]

Tyler ain't got the look for the movie

[@dharitriqw3163]

@@johnlawful2272 tyler ain't got that body...and yes Cavill is already great as Superman

[@harvey2906]

I agree with you.💪

[@jmgonzales7701]

Tyler hoechlin does not even look like superman. FInd another unknown actor.

[@the_demigod]

Another option would be to build a universe on top of 'The Batman (2022)' throw in a Superman movie next and yeah it would be crazy to see what this universe's Metropolis can do given Gotham had such a character in this universe.

[@alexaviercomics4241]

Day 2 of asking Arris to do a history of Cassandra Cain, David Cain and Lady Shiva, they are underrated, also I’m writing a script of Orphan so that’s why I want to know their history

[@haroldalan7080]

Still feeling sort of bad of Dc comic movies and kinda worried that their films are not getting enough fanbase like the Mcu is😯😯.

[@jessemillan1385]

I wonder who should play Terry McGinnis in the DCEU? It's difficult to find an actor that would play Batman Beyond.

[@AnarkeeSoundVibes]

Tanner Buchanan from Cobra Kai, but I already fancast him as Tim Drake in a possible bat family live action movie.

[@gabeb9495]

The lead guy character in Dune.

[@rohitpathak4354]

@@AnarkeeSoundVibes I feel Xolo Maridueña from Cobra Kai will be a much accurate Terry McGinnis

[@AnarkeeSoundVibes]

@@rohitpathak4354 sounds plausible

[@jorgecarbajal8076]

@@rohitpathak4354 He’s playing Blue Beetle.

[@Crazy-pm8vz]

I reckon they should just start from scratch, re-cast most the characters and give each main hero their own movie(s) and build up to a Justice League movie worthy of the title. They would also have to include Green Lantern this time around, cause Geoff Johns' run on GL is still my favorite comic series of all time, and the Justice League is just not the same without him.

[@princemarkanthony500]

I’m a marvel fan.. but still want to see monument DCU movies!! One can like em both !

[@nakdickson]

About the cast, these guys you mentioned are my favorite DCEU casts.

[@GalvatronStudios]

I literally made my own proper DCEU timeline a few months ago I plan on doing a video explaining each story and which characters would be introduced along with some changes to a few characters

[@beatbodytraining121]

DC needs to hire you for their meetings. You understand comics way better than they do.

[@foxbomber5]

I feel like a total reboot is the best option, but also resetting the time period as well. Go all the way back to the Golden Age Era, 1930s to 40s aesthetic, back to the roots of everything.

[@AncestorEmpireGaming]

By not hiring child predators as the flash.

[@SomeGuy-cf2lp]

And not hiring husband beaters like mera

[@charlesstrong9508]

He is the WORST flash

[@rayrome7244]

@@charlesstrong9508 1000% concur, worst Flash EVER! Dunno why they just didn't use the CW Flash actor, he's way better

[@Peecamarke]

THANK YOU! Why does it feel like no one is saying this enough?

[@superpaul79]

The suit at 1:58. Is that a fan mock up? What's the story there, because I kind of love it.

[@TevyaSmolka]

A flashpoint type reboot for the dc cinematic universe could be interesting.

[@kokiheavymetal]

But in Muschietti words it’s not a Flashpoint movie, it’s a movie that takes parts from the original Flashpoint plot, but theres some things that they’re changed and it’s not a reboot

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@kokiheavymetal that's true and you're right about that.

[@haroldalan7080]

The Decu also gotta be careful of Overusing Batman, alot of reference has been mention about him in different films🦇🦇.

[@otakumarcus]

Yeah, it’s about as bloated as the Thomas & Friends Merchandise

[@SentryEdits]

DC/WB having a character that can do a reboot of anything and still having no idea how to start over is sad and hilarious 😂

[@farmansiddiqui9279]

The should’ve just followed the DCAU template. It was perfect. Absolutely flawless television

[@Pako_equis]

Matt Reeves tone is awesome maybe he can do the next stand alone movie maybe Cyborg or Green Lantern

[@TheAsocialArtist]

What? How... Those are very different characters

[@Pako_equis]

@@TheAsocialArtist Thats the point, he should do different characters and maybe he can build the next dceu, just saying my opinion

[@brianng8350]

@@Pako_equis The Batman was okay. But do we want him to set the tone for the whole universe? The last director they allowed, Zack Snyder, was a mixed bag. But the studio needs to hire a Kevin Feige person - one vision and gatekeeper. The universe lives and die with that person. Clearly, the previous method of rotating execs butting in ruined movies like BvS and Justice League.

[@Pako_equis]

@@brianng8350 I respect your opinion but the Batman was more than just okay, the tone was perfect and mature enough for its tragic scenes. Imagine that same tone for a scene where Hal Jordan or Kyle Rayner get to see a Lantern die and the ring floats tours their hand, that would be amazing. A dark tone like Reeves and you add outer space? Would be nice

[@brianng8350]

@@Pako_equis I agree the tone is good for The Batman, but will he be able to replicate that for space opera? His Batman is very grounded, but Green Lantern is going to be the opposite.

[@ggleam88]

There would be nothing more amazing as seeing JDM and Lauren as Batman and the Joker. I think Lauren could totally pull off something never seen before with the Joker! Especially if we look at her family connection to Arkham in Earth 1! I mean it's all there!!!

[@thewolf01x95]

Here's how you fix it .. replace the execs with people who have brain cells.

[@ninjadanoite1560]

Savage.

[@dariojoe59]

I could really hear the frustration in his voice and I fell it too

[@bdr113080]

I know this was made five months ago, and now we kind of have a plan of what’s going forward. I actually do have a lot of faith in James Gunn, he’s someone who knows the comic book world, and before he even took the rains over of the brand new DC studios he had already been working with them. I think DC having their own studio is going to help a lot unlike before where you had people “ in charge of the DC movies” but that title didn’t really mean anything because it’s not like it was its own studio and the old owners of Warner Brothers seem to be so reactionary that they never let anything play out. It felt like the panic button was hit all the time. But just where we sit as of March 2023, while I am very optimistic about the future and as active as James Gunn is on Twitter, I think somethings need to be more clearer than just a Twitter response. Like I think it wouldn’t be a bad idea for every three months for James Gunn to make an announcement to either update the fans and also clear up bad Internet rumors. I’m writing this the same weekend, Shazam, fury of the gods was in theaters and for me it’s a great movie and I loved it a lot. I even liked it more than I like the first Shazam movie and more than I liked the Black Adam movie . But where I think Warner Bros. drop, the ball was marketing and controlling miss information. As I’m trying to encourage other fans to go check this great movie out in theaters I’ve been getting hit for the last 48 hours with replies with people saying they really don’t care because they’re under the impression that James Gunn has said that Gal Gadot and Zachary Levi aren’t coming back. James Gunn has never said they weren’t. In fact, he’s actually said that the door is still open for both of them to keep playing their characters, but nobody knows that. Unfortunately Zachary Levi has stated that if this movie doesn’t do well in theaters, it might be the last Shazam movie and it’s sad that the reason it’s not going to do well is because people think there’s no reason to care about it because it’s the last time his movies are going anywhere. I think a lot of people forget that both in the comics, in the animated universe, and in the CW universe, when flash goes back in time to change things. Yes, it does reset some things like we’re kind of resetting Superman and Batman, but things also stay the same, like wonder woman, and Shazam.

[@Silver_Spectre]

That’s a fantastic point about the MCU, if Marvel can take the plot of One More Day and make a movie people actually like with it surely DC can manage to have some kind of direction for their movies

[@gHGhej]

All that proved was sunken cost makes people easily scammed, three movies for zero growth? Lol

[@Silver_Spectre]

@@gHGhej if you ignore him getting exactly what he wants from Stark, learning to become his own man and having to sacrifice everything

[@gHGhej]

@@Silver_Spectre So you undermine one of the most smartest and creative characters by giving him the gadgets. He learns to be his own man? He endangers people by trying to save villains that will RETURN TO THE MOMENT BEFORE THEIR DEATHS! Sounds like he has growing up to do or the day of their deaths would have made more sense. A sacrifice of his own making, that is the plot of the film. It is not heroic, it is the least he can do to clean up his mess and being a threat to the multiverse.

[@brianng8350]

No Way Home is based on One More Day? I hate the solution to One More Day storyline. Maybe that is why I was lukewarm to No Way Home… hahaha…

[@ECxTheMaster]

What we def need is a batman beyond movie that adapts the first couple episodes into a live action screen play Currently working on it ;)

[@njokukingcharles8091]

Are u not tired of Batman movie

[@ECxTheMaster]

@@njokukingcharles8091 huh? No lol I replay arkham city religiously

[@njokukingcharles8091]

DC should learn to create a comic hero that has not been on the DC cinematic universe like what marvel did to ant man

[@ECxTheMaster]

@@njokukingcharles8091 I agree, perhaps a blue beatle, or a green arrow movie, maybe another Constantine or something with Dr fate, static shock, beast boy?

[@njokukingcharles8091]

All this are already created and competition will be there between old cast and new cast

[@ulisesmartinezsalinas860]

Variant Comics if Warner Bros fixes the DC Extended Universe as well ascreating a separate DC Film Studios that is similar like Marvel Studios to allow the film creators to unite their works in the same continuity, maybe we could get a fresh start (which is almost necessary) with Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and the Justice League being first, then we could get in the future some other characters that deserve to be in the DC Extened Universe like the Teen Titans, Legion of Super Heroes, Metal Men, Outsiders, Doom Patrol, New Gods, Justice League Dark, Green Lantern, Green Arrow, John Constantine, Nightwing, Captain Atom, Booster Gold, Plastic Man, Animal Man and Adam Strange.

[@mrv7916]

I think they should reboot the entire DC universe. The flashpoint it’s a great way to sort of reboot the DCEU. I honestly don’t get why WB don’t want to recast or reboot the DCEU. I think they are losing more money or not even making any money at all, by not doing a proper DCEU. But sadly, I doubt WB will actually do anything.

[@ryancassidy3245]

They could bring back Robert Patterson And also Freaking Green Lantern

[@TheSinatra]

Robert Pattinson not connected to the DCEU. I do hope they bring back Green Lantern. Maybe John Stewart since they butchered hal jordan years ago

[@is-landmedia2360]

@@TheSinatra they could always try again with Hal Jordan

[@TylerOath]

Agreed 100%! But all that being said, as much as Terry would be great! I want to see a well done Nightwing!!

[@ahappyklingon3631]

Check out Titans.

[@masterjedi1980]

Hell yes let’s go! Variant knows best!

[@justinjohnson1360]

It's a wrap for dc and I love dc. Hell green lantern is my favorite superhero ever. He got decapitated

[@breadmeister]

I am seriously hoping they do some reshoots on the Flash movie that takes out Ezra Miller Flash and brings in a new one. Possibly Wally West or Jay Garrick, if not a new version of Barry Allen.

[@TheSinatra]

We need a new flash other than Ezra Miller

[@Ajoi14]

I'll cry if Barry will end with Ezra. such a waste of his character... :'(

[@thugpug4392]

We need a movie that reveals Ezra Miller was reverse flash the whole time. Eobard prevented Barry from getting his powers and decided to finally live his dream of being praised as the hero

[@Peecamarke]

@@thugpug4392 as long as Ezra doesn’t get paid from it AT ALL

[@brianng8350]

They don’t need to take out Ezra Miler; just make sure he is killed before the end of the movie and introduce a new Flash.

[@challenger9520]

To be honest I think that was their initial plan before Miller screwed it all up

[@omegamaximus1727]

My hope is that DC takes inspiration from the comics and animation.

[@brandonscott4808]

The DCEU was a mess since The Man of Steel.

[@angelglass2618]

The fact that it did not have ridiculous jokes in the MCU style does not make it a bad movie

[@brandonscott4808]

@@angelglass2618 True but the film still had its flaws that would later effect the DCEU down the road. Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and Shazam for example were only successful because the directors of those films didn't want to follow Zack Snyder's vision.

[@DoubleX74]

“One note I got was on Man of Steel, where the ending involves Superman utilizing the pod that he arrived in as a child in order to bring down General Zod’s ship,” recalls Goyer. “The note we got from the studio said, ‘You have to change that.’ We asked why. They said, ‘Because if Superman uses that pod and it’s destroyed while saving the city, how is he ever going to get back home to Krypton?’ There was just this long pause and we said, ‘Krypton blew up. You saw 30 minutes of it!’ -David S Goyer, Nolan's Batman trilogy script writer to WB studio executive

[@brianng8350]

Hahaha… those exes should run WB but leave storytelling to people who actually care…

[@mikemike7326]

Zack posted a pic of FINAL CRISIS. I know folks aren’t fans of Zack but that’s honestly a great way to bring in the old and new stuff where they’d all meet up to fight DARKSEID!🔥💯

[@thequiet5727]

2 options imo: - Flashpoint it (which is highly likely to happen) - create a new universe with Battinson after his trilogy

[@erniegonzalez2322]

Thanks for bringing Great Ideas and I would definitely have them do a Days of Future Past and have Rewrite from Events of Flashpoint and then Ezra can definitely be recast!

[@damarius555]

It would make sense if they wanna reset it and have everything start with a clean slate and a new introduction to character from different earths idk I think it could fix if it was done correctly

[@CynderFlamez]

I think they should follow through with the dark Knightmare/Snyderverse but then do Injustice. (They could even use Pattinsons Batman to set up a new and potentially different Justice League or creat ANOTHER Batman.) Hell, Flashpoint could even be what kicks off the Injustice, idk. I would just love to see them embrace the multiverse/elseworld stuff. (Cause I too want Neegan and Maggie as Batman and Joker, that would be absolutely amazing.)

[@Michael-mt6yb]

No

[@brianng8350]

They can do Injustice now. They can create a new label - DC Elseworld or something while they fix the mess that is DCEU in the meantime. This could be DC’s “What If…” movie version. Since they can’t copy MCU properly, create their own format that works for them. But Injustice or even Dark Knights of Steel or any alternative timelines are better knowing the primary universe, which is something DCEU hasn’t been able to properly establish.

[@StarvingArtist600]

Everyone complains about Superman killing Zod in MOS. Honestly though, he killed him in Superman II as well. He even abused his powers in that movie, to beat up a random guy in a diner simply because the guy embarrassed him while he was on a date with Lois, while he was powerless. In MOS, he was forced into a situation where he didn't have a choice, and he mourned Zod after. It reminded me very much of when he had to kill Zod in Superman #22 by John Byrne.

[@markmolino679]

Thank you. At least someone gets that scene in MoS.Those people who complained.Knows nothing about Superman.

[@SlapNuts4Life]

I don’t care what anyone else says, I absolutely loved the New 52. It was responsible for getting me back into comics after a 12+ year break.

[@mayotango1317]

Meh, New52 is the Batman world.

[@arthurmyself7183]

I loved Superman and Wonder Women because it made sense

[@mayotango1317]

@@arthurmyself7183 No, Batman and Wonder Woman make sense.

[@arthurmyself7183]

@@mayotango1317Batman loves Batman

[@kingkal81]

I'm still waiting for a Marvel & DC crossover 😔

[@grahamcann1761]

Movie/Comic speculation... I ❤ it! It was a favorite past-time of my group of friends in the 80's. "How I would", "Who I would cast", "What my rules would have been", and so on! And the beauty is, there are no wrong answers, as long as you're respectful of others opinions. And I really appreciate your opinions and ideas. I mean it, Flashpoint please!!! As always thank you so very much for the video. And that group from the 80s? One went on to work at ILM as an artist. Two went to work at Marvel. And one even became the star of a movie about a Starfighter. (I became an accountant.)

[@stevechoi6332]

Use the Snyder Justice League as a leverage point to stem into other character movies. Use Flashpoint to develop Batman’s story while moving from present backwards. That way, we get closer to who he is as a person the further into the film series we get. Show us the layers of who he is. Tie it to parts of DCAU.

[@Michael-mt6yb]

They don’t like Snyders version of the dceu

[@stevechoi6332]

@@Michael-mt6yb Yes, despite the fact that the story is fleshed out and sets up a shit ton of movies in a variety of genres and tones. I fucking hate DC

[@ahappyklingon3631]

@@Michael-mt6yb nobody does.

[@Michael-mt6yb]

@@ahappyklingon3631 I definitely don’t brother

[@danterose6673]

There's is a new head of WB. The first thing they did was hire the guy who hired Kevin Fridge and establish DC studios. I think they are gonna build something great. I do. Flashpoint is a great place to start to get rid of what we didn't like and keep what we did. I do think they'll release The Flash movie. There's a lot of money and if the film itself is good they might feel confident in releasing it. The film should end with a reboot.

[@Ice_2192]

As a Marvel fan, I hope DC’s success will create a competition against Marvel. I just watched the latest episode of She-Hulk and really didn’t like how the show is going so far. Marvel really hugged the idea that if a character is “funny” that that character is lovable instantly. L&T focused too much on laughs that the story took a huge seat in the back. I just want DC to finally do something with their very complex characters and give them justice on the big screen. Not every superhero has to have the quirky one liners that Peter Parker does.

[@rj_thesnail5236]

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[@moshymosh]

The problem here is that you actually watched she-hulk out of your own free will.

[@Peecamarke]

I’m loving She-Hulk right now. It’s refreshing and I like the sitcom style. Sorry you don’t like it

[@moshymosh]

@@Peecamarke You were paid to say this

[@ahappyklingon3631]

I take it you're a MCU fan and not a fan of the comics ..She Hulk captured the tone of her comics. Not everybody is going to like every character. No Marvel fan does. No DC fan loves every DC character.

[@Jeffreyderksen911]

I'm been waiting for this

[@pablosoto2457]

Very accurate points!!! Good job V!!!

[@andiyoyi6953]

its actually way easier than people think

[@RealKyndleNance]

Yeah. That’s why it’s so hard. At least to Warner Bros it is.

[@jj_dilla4080]

I know but I think that Warner bros really doesn’t care about the dc franchise cause they could easily make a new movie and before the movie start put earth prime so that way the admit the horrible movies happened but not in this universe

[@TheHeroHaven]

I’ve been saying Flashpoint forever I really hope they go that way

[@tylerwilliams6782]

Imagine if they took the time to take every story from the comics to film. That's decades, possibly a century of movies.

[@MattGaetzOnAWhiteFordBronco]

As a DC fan, I dislike the "Snyder Cut" version of the Justice League. Why? It tried to do in 3 hours what took Marvel AT LEAST 4 years. Ironman was released in 2008, and The Hulk movie with Edward Norton was released the same year. Tony Stark had a cameo at the end of The Hulk movie and they carefully tied everything.

[@SuperMurray2009]

The Neck Snap was perfect

[@angels8920]

Maybe we are in a bad timeline

[@MrZombs123]

They need to make some more bad ass animated movies.. 🤘😎

[@flashvash7543]

We deff need a batman beyond movie with Keaton playing old bruce 100%!!! It would be a nice change up and rather refreshing

[@nathanjack86]

I would love them to have solo movies for next few years, establishing characters that aren’t Superman, Batman, or Wonder Woman. In five to ten years after characters are established a team up movie or two then Crisis! Tie together everything ever done with characters ever.

[@gHGhej]

I disagree as leaning on how more knowledge exist for their characters would be more fun imo. Start with them forming and kicking a huge threat ass before going into mini solo arcs that lead to villains from those films forming the Legion of Doom, work the villains and stand out from Marvel.

[@MithunKumar-bg6mt]

It is not just from phase 1 to phase 3, even the phase 4 is building something so big that by the we get to phase 6 , all the cameos and references from phase 4 will make a ton of sense in the "MCU".

[@markmolino679]

Bro, phase 4 is crap tbh and all it's leading up to is disappointment. Cuz Marvel is just releasing woke crap to the audience, hoping and praying that one of them will be a hit.The future of the MCU is bleak right now.

[@greatnessdelton1381]

@@markmolino679 If I wanted a shit take, I'd take a picture of my dog at 4 in the morning instead.

[@raphaelhamby]

The fans - “give us flashpoint!” DC - “how about we fire all of your favorite actors and actresses starting with Henry Cavill, hire James gun to reboot the DC universe, and bring back Joss Whedon because why not. Oh yeah and we might keep Ezra miller as the flash just to piss you guys off.”

[@alexkobs9313]

I said in one of Watchmojo’s comments sections earlier that I’m still struggling to understand why they didn’t give Miller the boot and recast the character sooner. And I had also started to believe all thing about him having mental health issues is just being used as an excuse for his bad behaviour. And do you think he’s really sorry for all his crimes? Because I’m having a load of trouble believing that.

[@Dani00732]

I’m at a point where I’m ready for Disney to own DC as well, Dc is far too gone and lost.

[@stefansauvageonwhat-a-twis1369]

I wanna see Jason Momoa as Lobo tho

[@prolificartsociety6805]

I legit had this conversation with a few friends the other day. I would start over and go with Flashpoint. 🤙🏾

[@peartdahurt]

I would be completely done for good with the DCEU if they used Keaton's Batman to set up Terry McGinnis as the main Batman. I know a lot of people love Batman Beyond but we need to get an established in universe real Batman first before even thinking of going the Beyond route. 10 years down the line, maybe,but let's focus on the longevity of a proper inter-connected Batman first.

[@murderofcrows5089]

If DC gets everything together I would love to see a movie about the darkest night that would be awesome kinda like a DC version of Infinity War

[@franciscomaytoreable]

Love watching the channel and regards to the DCEU its going to be a while my opinion 🤔🤔🤙🤙

[@osnapproductions1962]

They need to retheme it to the JLU Justice League Universe

[@chriscardona6292]

Love the Flashpoint idea with Grant Gustin as The Flash. I would add solo movies with a Green Lantern, Red Hood, and Nightwing fighting Sinestro, Mr. Freeze, and Deathstoke respectively in each movie. Also throw in a comical Wonder Twins movie as they fight Solomon Grundy. At the end of each Movie have Lex Luger recruiting each villain. Therefore, leading up to a HUGE Justice League vs The Legion of Doom Movie. Second phase would to add some separate movies starring characters such as Batwing and Huntress. With Batman, Red Hood, and Nightwing already in place, this can lead to a Bat Family vs Ra's al Ghul and The League of Assassins.

[@brianng8350]

Huh? They’ve already cancelled the Wonder Twin… hahaha…. That is not happening. And Nightwing vs Sinestro? You are serious?

[@chriscardona6292]

@@brianng8350 I listed three superheroes and then three villains and then used the word "respectively" to denote that each superhero to villain would be faced in that order. Since Nightwing was placed last he would face the last villain in the sentence who is Deathstroke. Sorry for the grammar lesson.

[@brianng8350]

@@chriscardona6292 My bad. But Deathstroke took on the whole Titans team. Nightwing is still underpowered. But I know that is part of current Dark Crisis, but I haven't followed the series.

[@ozi8483]

I agree 100% with Flashpoint! 🥰🥰🥰

[@seadubbya9209]

A Flashpoint movie would also give us that Negan vs Maggie fight we've been waiting on for years now.

[@krynico8451]

Well said ....I hope WB and DC pays attention and watch this video....you said what we as fans want moving forward👌🏾

[@chidieberenwadike4165]

Marvel: Live Action DC: Animation End of Discussion

[@wolfgang6442]

Correct!

[@anilbalram7768]

I think we can do a mix of Flashpoint and a reboot. I think Gal Gadot and Henry Cavill would love to reprise their roles and Robert Patterson made a great Batman especially with the experience level of his Batman. And I'm pretty sure the actor who plays Cyborg would like to actually get to act

[@MALITH666]

Easiest way to go in general is not trying to reboot and just keep going on one movie at a time. We had numerous batman or superman movies and each just tried to tell a story than build universes till 2010's when MCU became a thing. DC should not try to do that. Just hey make a flash movie there, if it works cool make a sequel. Then make another superhero movie. When people go to theater they want to see a movie, not to do homework of seeing 5 other movies before seeing a movie. Its why Shazam and Wonder Woman, the Pattison Batman, Joker, Aquaman worked. They were not trying to tell a universe story. You can sitdown chill and watch and have a good time.

[@iangeneadventures]

I know the flash point solution would make the most sense for the studio, but I still would love to see a complete reboot, and then years later when they get to flash point within this new canon, they come across the old dceu cast. I think that would be pretty funny

[@brianng8350]

Imagine Henry, Ben and Gal come back for Kingdom Come story 15 or 20 years from now? I do want them to return since they were pretty good casting.

[@Jedislayer_]

Bro the reason why he had to kill zod because zod was literally about to dissipate a family with his laser beams

[@FirstNameLastName1162AD]

Zod was one of Superman’s top archenemies and they killed him off in the very first movie. It’s like if The Snyder Cut killed off Darkseid

[@wingknight7132]

@@FirstNameLastName1162AD what are u talking about didn't batman kill ras al ghul in Batman begins(sorry he didn't kill him he left him to die) In Spiderman 1 they killed off green globin Superman killing zod is him coming to the realisation that zod cannot be left alive he can only cause destruction and pain to others Superman ultimately cannot control the choices others make with all the power he have in his arsenal

[@finnk9219]

Its more like he didnt have have to kill Zod..at least the writers didnt have to put him in that position in his first movie...that would have been way more acceptable at least if it had been a couple movies in that happened or a less visceral way of ending him.

[@user-sl1wt1dv4y]

I want the flash point to start over with 2022's the batman as the leading film

[@ishaelmidwinter9361]

I mean we know DC can do this as well cuz the had success wit the Arrowverse so DC definitely can make this possible

[@StrudelBoy]

Anyone know when the podcast is coming back? I looked forward to that every week 😅

[@angelglass2618]

Well personally for me the optional idea would be to first finish the second and third parts of the Zack Snyder Justice League and after that do a complete reboot if they want it I don't know what date the video is but in fact Batgirl has already been canceled haha and Ben Affleck is confirmed to appear in Aquaman 2 The Lost Kingdom added to the fact that Black Adam canonizes the events of the Snyderverse so I repeat the optional thing would be to finish that arc personally for my the DCEU deserved time it was judged too soon in 2016 they only had three movies one quite good another decent and another not so good but not the abysmal disaster that everyone points out if we compare it with the current MCU and its unnecessary phase 4 the DCEU still has a lot to give I want more of Affleck Cavill sorry Pattinson did not convince me

[@ahappyklingon3631]

Not only is his trilogy over it makes little to no sense to continue making more failed films set in that universe that the vast majority doesn't like. We need someone who cares about the source & the DC fans and no just his fans. The Rock isn't canonized the Snyderverse lol

[@johnotto-wl2yh]

How bout this reboots and starts fresh 👍🏾

[@Z.iggy-]

Grant gustin seems like a such a perfect option for the erza situation but who knows

[@rctolentino3262]

Exactly

[@jikert4815]

The biggest problem is not having an overarching story. And the perfect fix to this is something they already started with WW and Shazam, is the greek gods as the larger players

[@TomahawkWolf513]

You forgot to mention two things: • Ray Fisher getting blackballed • The Suicide Squad (‘21)

[@ahappyklingon3631]

Fisher got caught lying. He committed career suicide.

[@t.nelson9345]

We need a great Flashpoint movie. Follow with new casts that are willing to do five to ten movies.

[@TheSinatra]

Yes Get Henry Cavill back Get rid of Ezra miller and stop making flash a quirky loser New Batman Same Aquaman Same Wonder Woman Get an actual Green Lantern

[@NPC_Disrespect]

I'm 100% a die hard DC fan but my only thought on this is if you keep reusing the Flashpoint people are going to get tired of it! I'm down for it but be careful