How Do ISTPs Compare to ISFPs? | ISTP vs ISFP | CS Joseph

[@daljoe54]

Weird seeing you in a pullover hoodie. This is new. This is good.

[@chloroxbleach8561]

ISFP squad represent

[@A.J.Breadman]

Ah, finally a SP video.

[@Whimsydaisy]

I love how passionate you are about the different types and talking about what you love/ dislike about them. I loveeeddd this video because it gave me some new insights into myself :) -ISFP

[@karlstrauss2330]

The bias against SPs is real! Thanks for giving us SPs some love and appreciation 👍😎

[@heatherbryant4197]

I know there's much bias against sensors in this community, but I love SPs! It's those damn SJs that irk me. 😇

[@ChrispyNut]

You have all the love and appreciation in the physical world, it's only here in the psychology stuff, because us Intuitives are looked-down upon in society because we're weird. It's a bias towards N's, not against S's!

[@karlstrauss2330]

INTPeanut I hear ya bruh, it sucks being marginalized and ignored by society. As an SP I wanna say thank you to you intuitive types for advancing society with philosophy, science and technology, the world wouldn’t be the same without you guys.

[@ChrispyNut]

@@karlstrauss2330 To be fair, plenty of Sensor's advance those areas, when they're aspiring (according to Chase's theory). Without all the infrastructure, tools and physical stuff you folks have produced/maintained etc, much would still mearly exist as thought experiments. Roll-on Jungian being "common sense" and we can all appreciate what eachother brings, our blindspots and our "delicate spots" ..... so the bitching and fighting can be friendly banter, rather than arrogant ignorance that others may be different to ourselves, without just being "crap".

[@yustinushalim1146]

Greetings from an ESTJ, let us all empower ourselves to aspire so that we can "wake up" more SJs and SPs to know about cognitive psychology.

[@cray5279]

I'm sure there are ISTP who doesn't behave like a jerk around. Well-developed Fe 😎

[@sayonarapt06]

I'm an ISTP and I've been noticing that my Fe is getting better 💅🏻

[@dxfifa]

Most ISTPs are actually very calibrated due to their Se, they initiate robot protocols by scanning their surroundings and using logic to initialise social protocol 1479. A lot of them kinda seem like narrow focused and more crazy/fun ENTPs when they are confident and a little drunk

[@MegaMindsetZ]

I used to be socially oblivious but now I'm better (ISTP) Everything can become better if you do the work

[@abbynormal7525]

I love how you tell everyone to chill out. This episode is very helpful. I am an ISTP and I love my freedom. My 10 year old daughter is an ISFP and she is a very brilliant writer and I do give her her freedom to do her artistry because if I don’t it is child abuse.

[@idiotslife8508]

😂😂😂❤️

[@mayonnaise7547]

I have literally just asked a question comparing istp and isfp and this feels so convenient. thankyou

[@zeinabzein1514]

Hey Chase, Looking good in that sweatshirt! You look more relaxed. My university professor and mentor was an ISTP. She wasn't liked much by others for her harsh and controlling behavior. I liked her because she was brilliant despite everything else. She also worked on helping out people in many ways. She helped me grow out of my one track mind and develop my Ti. I'm forever grateful I met that lady on my path. -INFJ hipster

[@argent-wolfman90]

Great work man. Thanks for helping me clarify my type. For too long I struggled figuring out whether or not I was an ISTP or an INTJ. My Ni Child is a wild one. -An Aussie ISTP 8w9 or counterphobic 6w5.

[@abbynormal7525]

You are like a wand ninja . I think Voldemort would be scared with you on the room.

[@ayjaymattson6635]

My favourite video from your channel...you're more lively and bouncy, and the whole style fits! Not to mention, the sharp humour to go with it.

[@bobbyjean1581]

38 minutes in and this video is super inspirational. I'm an isfp - all of this is true and super helpful. I really like how you see beyond the surface level of the types to their true potential. I don't only mean that you see past mbti stereotypes. In real life tooi think many people even without knowledge of mbti 'judge a book by it's cover'. They might see both these types as kinda quiet, istp maybe kinda gruff, good at fixing things, isfp kinda timid, maybe creative or whatever and then can't see much past that surface level. But you see e.g. that they can make people stronger through Se parent (and that actually this is their purpose) - I never even realised I did this till you said it, but it's true. I often won't mollycoddle people when i see they are weak at something (and i sense when they are), instead i softly try and push them out of their comfort zone. You also see that e.g. istps can be great teachers, and isfps can become leaders, and that their happiness actually requires this and it can help do good in the world. I honestly think more narrow minded people out there may scoff at the idea of these types doing these things (oh that little isfp leading something? That gruff istp caring to teach? etc) - untill they actually do. But you see past all the surface stuff right away to what is truly there, and motivate people to get there through these videos. That's kind of magical :-)

[@bobbyjean1581]

Thanks for understanding Fi hero and sharing this with others. Our silence can become a vicious circle - worried what people think so silent, so noone hears our opinion/input so noone can value it or give it credit, so then we feel bad and worry people dont think much of us so then we stay more silent. Another point that's very true in this video is that Se needs something to show for their work - yes

[@Austiin_vdw]

Hoodie looks good Chase, nice vid

[@roksaan]

Obviously, he's been talking to ENFPs about branding.

[@authorerynblaire-craftingc9379]

This was so enlightening! I've always had trouble distinguishing if my stepfather was ISFJ or ISTP... I think he's ISTP.. soo smart, but has such bad inputs. I freaking love ISFPs.

[@ryleesnaps3155]

You’re very direct-I respect that.

[@Daelaron]

Man, I really have to thank you again for your videos. I don't regularly watch them... more like binge on them every now and then (Kind of like podcast-asmr for sleeping). But I think I as an ISTP really, really understood something about a certain person whom I believe to be an ISFP now. I'll try my best not to piss her off with my advice and help anymore! I know that my cold logic can seem callous at times... but I'll keep an extra eye out in those cases. It's strange. I really love her, even though everybody seems to think that we should be like oil and water. But I think that our similarities are a strength. And her emotional side really made a better man out of me. At least I like to think so. She may feel otherwise. Haha.

[@kurodesuuuu]

I found it interesting that you mentioned ISTPs are the one doing skyscraper work, collecting garbage,etc. I was feeling their Ti Hero means they'd usually be higher up on the social ladder on average. Do you have a video where you go in depth on which type ends up (say, by middle age) with which dayjob/profession they enjoy? I guess you did mention the ideal profession in some videos - like nursing, programming for ESFJ with that intp subconscious. But damn, I'm already forgetting things lol

[@Tarektioban]

ISTP here, I used to be precisely as you describe, a man of few words, however, beggining around two years ago I began heading towards a complete 180 in terms of public speaking and confidence. Today, I'm 32 and find I'm the first person in a group to speak up, speak my mind, tell it like it is and say far more on the subject than those around me. Is this a somewhat normal progression for an ISTP or have I potentially done specific things leading to this new me?

[@CSJoseph]

sure, provided you are teaching others.

[@Tarektioban]

@@CSJoseph I love teaching others, it's truly a passion of mine.

[@azmodanpc]

I think that as ISTP age, their Fe develops and makes them able to express, emote and be more confident in relating with other people (esp. in public speaking).

[@lann1921]

You are just a mature, healthy ISTP 😊

[@Mugzchunch]

Oh my god you are amazing. You're just giving me epiphany after epiphany. Thank you

[@insertcurrentobsessionhere]

The energy in this video is immaculate

[@kaspervendler1726]

After watching your videos, i think that the stories about the ISTP being scoically engineered out of his business, and the ISTP boss being forced to see his bad long memory from your check list will allways haunt me! All things considered incredible great and informative videos! -ISTP

[@tylerrichards2265]

Mentioning the painting shows that you appreciate it. Getting the painting framed will show that you value it as well.

[@CSJoseph]

hard to frame a canvas

[@xandirkuro4790]

"the truth will set you free " that maxim is on my mind nearly all the time xd

[@nurbul5487]

Chase DAMN beard looks so damn good on you!! hahhaa love that. Thank you for the video I am trying to understand my ISFP friend better. I am an INFP and I rrealized that my ISFP friend was so oblivious to people´s intentions so now I am protecting her from guys in my class it´s kind of cute how she trusts people so easily but she got me, gotta protect me some child function. Thanks for letting me know for sure

[@Masamuze]

This totally explains mine (ISFP) and my dads (ISTP) relationship, I tend to find he means well but I can only take him in short bursts lol

[@suellen7853]

That is exatctly what I live too!! I'm an ISFP and my dad is an ISTP, it is coo!!

[@dopegirl]

Suellen Giovana da Silva same for me

[@user-xk9cr3mu3k]

Bruh same I'm an isfp and my dad is istp too!!

[@edwinortiz7114]

I do understand now what you mean about the ENFP fine print but I think most of us dont know we are doing it. We are very careful with our words and assume everyone else is paying just as much attention. Then I matured a little (like 3 months ago lololol) and I was like oh I guess people dont pay attention to every word someone is saying and then additionally analyze it for meaning...weird, amiright? That explains the end of 2 of my friendships (products of me being unaware of my skepticism and distrust of others intent). And on the flip side with enfps doing the contract thing with isfps, I got a bro who gets the best NE advice me and my infp sister can offer. He's on the rise and he's gonna kill it. Isfps are truly great people!

[@DEEJAYNH10]

Now i know why my biggest fear of my entire life is becoming a hypocrite , i always find it weird why i worry about that A LOT when other people have other stuff as their biggest fear. As well as commitments , i am SUPER loyal and a giver with people but when it comes to physical commitments aka work imposed by others but would benefit me in the future ,I procrastinate (school work for example), and i always hear "oh istp's are productive, once they get things done on time" and i m like , uh ,that's not me i am a last minute cramer even tho other stuff sound like me.it's hard for me to stay consistent i do oneshot things and on crisis yes , but if you give me something to do for the next 3 months uh nop . Im an istp in doubt

[@sandradibiaso7316]

I thought I needed your help to figure out if actor James Dean was an ISFP or an ISTP but realized all ISFPs are cool as f--- without even trying so my ISFJ unconscious remembered that because I am depressed most of the time as an ESFP and my ENTP superego can read people like a book so it's a definite that actor James Dean was an ISFP. He totally cared about his legacy as an actor. He told many people that he was going to be a famous actor.

[@lilakihn3688]

This really got to my heart (isfp). I had a very trauma/shame based childhood that set me back in my art forms (no support and even blocked). This helped me realize a lot of things. My father was istp - that freedom/controlling factor. Also thank you for valuing art - our society for the most part does not

[@polmak1507]

Great video. I love these two types Btw, you should write an autobiography or something. You seem to have had a pretty interesting life

[@CSJoseph]

one day

[@Jobi011]

Great lecture, always dope getting new SP content. Although, that wand waving almost drove me insane.

[@imDontaye]

ISTP here and I’ve always hated forcing myself to help others. I’d prefer to let them come to me first before I say or do anything

[@coldchillin8382]

Yup. Even if I KNOW they need help. You better speak up and use that mouthpiece

[@myykkoll]

fucking love it when CJ does these video's when's he's in an upbeat mood with sass turned up to 11. I feel like you're trying to hypnotise us XD. Great to see you loving what you do.

[@Oilofmercy]

I keep waiting for the orchestra to start with the conducting. 🤣

[@hannah_marie97]

Is that the Harry potter wand? 😂 I love the randomness on this channel.

[@AZN234]

50:33 Yep. I think know an ISTP Jet Fighter Pilot. The descriptions mentioned here totally fits that person.

[@lann1921]

My Ni-Child has been running my life in circles, only now in my 30s am I taking her by the ear and making her face our responsibilities. It was always about me, myself and I . I was so proud of it, so selfish. -istp

[@rebecam.8397]

So beautiful to see how people develop and grow over time.

[@lann1921]

@@rebecam.8397 it is quite an eye-opener how far some people have come.

[@rebecam.8397]

@@lann1921 enfj here btw! What up subconscious? Lol

[@xvadur]

I really appreciate your work and the effort you put into it. I admire with what kind of commitment you want to help people with their lives

[@theresefrancis9283]

Thanks for shedding some light on us SPs for once xD

[@CuddleClaw.]

I love your lectures. Thank you! -ISTP

[@RachelledelaRosa]

I don't know. I'm starting to wonder if i'm ISFP because the whole thing about "you need to show the ISFP you think highly of them" is a HUGE part of the reason I love my ENTP so much. He's the first person really to brag about my accomplishments (even if sometimes he over hypes me) to everyone and I REALLY love him for that. It gave me so much energy that now i'm doing really really well in school! I mean my dad (ESTP) did that a little, but my dad always restricted my freedom where my ENTP is happy to let me make decisions whenever I want and even calls me his north star. idk, this seems way more accurate to me than any of the infj vids...

[@RachelledelaRosa]

Also Ne trickster would totally make sense, I chalked it up to Te trickster that I literally can not talk to any salesman without almost signing a contract but maybe its this. ESPECIALLY if the salesperson is ENP lol. ENTPs are at least more fun and less scary about when they sell something cause of Fe child.

[@imetal16ddin1]

If I am an ISFP- I don't express my opinion or how I feel because I have trouble expressing myself verbally and people don't understand what I'm saying.

[@Oilofmercy]

@Emperor Guardiola but even when isfps get it right people understand thsm wrong. Not sure its worth it. They feel misunderstood.

[@Moana_moo]

@@Oilofmercy true a lot of ppl think i’m mellow soft and naive since i don’t say too much what i want and i am not very assertive but the truth is i don’t bother asking like i’ma do whatever i want anyway so why ask for permission(unless it actually harms other ppl i rarely ask someone for permission I’ll just do it). Also since i’m not confrontational when i argue i annoy ppl by just ignoring what they’re sayin but for me is better than just sayin a bunch of things I’ll regret later(i’m impulsive)

[@Moana_moo]

That’s me and my younger sis and while we both carefree and rebellious we are significantly different. Like she’s more assertive insistent and so on and i’m more quiet and ppl think i’m more naive and obedient when in reality my sister is just very insistent and doesn’t stop until my parents or teachers allow her to do what she wants. Me on the other hand if i ask for something and get refused I’ll pretend i listen i’m like:”ok as u say” and then do whatever i want anyway or sometimes don’t even bother to ask for permission. When we argue she’s driving my parents teachers friends and me mad by being extremely rude and “brutal” while me in an Argument i’m like ignoring the person or being like very passive:ok “whatever” “i don’t care” or just nod and i drive ppl mad by being passive. I’m also way more dreamy and artistic and way more friendly than she is while she’s definitely more logical and assertive and practical. Also when we want ppl out of our lives she will argue with them and just tell it while i just ignore their existance and just don’t call them anymore

[@universeprisoner176]

Thank you thank you thank you.... Over half way through my istp said "he has deep issues"... The best thing about him saying that... Means he heard what you said and it hit home a bit....I hope.

[@CSJoseph]

yep

[@fatemehp5502]

I'm going back and forth between ISFP and ISTP... I feel stupid! Even though I think I might be ISTP I used to feel the same for being ISFP I rather telling people the truth.I want them to open their eyes and learn what I've learned through experience.A few years ago when I was younger people were telling me I'm harsh on them and I do not want to hurt others but on the other hand if I don't tell them what I think I'm going to be mad at myself so I started to learn soften telling them my opinion kindly ( It's like " I understand why are you saying this/ feeling like this but let's see our problem from this point of view and that perspective" or "I personally don't recommend that for these reasons") I learned to teach people how to react to a certain situation you need to give them some examples that worked and also the freedom of choosing / making their own Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong

[@CSJoseph]

download the free type grid companion and work through that at csjoseph.life you'll get your type.

[@myykkoll]

you say that ENFP's manipulate through contracts all the time but I feel that the ENFJ I know morso follows this vein (maybe i just cant see it from the ENFP) but the ENFJ will say something indirectly related to what they want, assuming that we're in agreement of the thing that I'm unaware of.

[@abupip4140]

Not only is it a hoodie, it's a Cabela's hoodie! I'll assume that was just worn to entice the ISTPs to listen to you. Though you do look really good in it!

[@narcsinart7179]

it's working

[@splacl6102]

I dont understand what so special about that hoodie.. (INTP)

[@sibestfunction4400]

@@splacl6102 neither do i lol!

[@someonerandom713]

So Ti can be pictured as a logic specialist sitting at a desk and reviewing every single piece of information one after the other. I guess the higher up Ti sits in the ego, the higher the capacity for information. So it takes Ti inferior four times the effort to review the same information the person at the Ti hero desk is checking. Is this a suitable analogy? 🙃

[@CSJoseph]

yes

[@shortsoccerboyz]

As istp wouldn't helping someone get freedom create a coverted contract as I would expect them to get me out of the ditch when I'm in trouble?

[@CSJoseph]

yep, this is correct, which is why you need to make it an overt contract.

[@ariantejano2518]

ISTP here. I used to be very controlling, not in the virtue of possessing someone so I'd feel superior, but just maneuvering them to what I thought was right for them. This was true when I lived with my sister for 5 yrs. It was hard. Then I decided to let go and free her. However part of that control was financial support, advice, food, caring meticulously, etc. When I let her be, I just shut up and wait for her to ask something from me.

[@sirbradfordofhousejones]

4:30-6:30 I’m an isfp married to an ENFP. She’s a wonderful and compassionate person, but she absolutely manipulates situations and I can get steamrolled by her Ne. I just want it to end so I agree to things. Like FINE, you decide! Big fan of ENFPs, by the way. The constant brainstorming and idea generating is exhausting, tho

[@Moodboard39]

Lol

[@FARAHOLICS.]

I laugh on the first comment you talk about INFP asking about their personality because GOD! I always see INFP everywhere in a comment section in every corner of any youtuber talk about MBTI.

[@garethevans4073]

Everything points to me being ISFP, but I pretty much do everything alone. Am I mistyped or just unhealthy/immature?

[@CSJoseph]

thats fine, be alone

[@bobbyjean1581]

I think ISXPs enjoy alone time due to being introverts but when they extrovert through Se parent they like to create shared experiences - i mean it could be low key though so you might not think of it as that, just simple stuff that involves other people but not necessarily a high level of interaction

[@garethevans4073]

@@bobbyjean1581 Looks like it was a lot of social anxiety in my case, now I seem to get bored quite easily alone haha

[@bobbyjean1581]

@@garethevans4073 Haha, yeah I do actually need genuine alone time often. But other times, I want to be with people and have a good time - but feeling socially anxious puts me off in certain situations (mainly when it's people i don't know that well) From watching these videos I've learned a lot of it is prob related to inferior Te and worrying about what other people think which can get exhausting

[@hannah_marie97]

Woah woah woah hold up, what about healthy ISFPs? I (ISFP) was with an INFJ for 2 1/2 years and was extremely loyal, and communicated constantly informing him that I was still deciding if he was 'the one', and that he could walk away at any point if he got tired of waiting. Eventually when I decided he wasn't, the relationship came to an end, and he didn't feel his time was wasted at all because I was always totally honest with him. So yes Ni child can be a pain in the butt, but I also know a couple of ISFPs who, when have found the one, are rediculously loyal and have said they have absolutely no desire to be with anyone else.

[@qute1693]

Ty for this video! -an isfp

[@scooray6320]

Do you shave your own beard it looks amazing!

[@CSJoseph]

ill grow it to my feet.

[@dennisjonker4804]

Great video! Very informative as usual. I got a question. What is your take on the whole Assertive/Turbulent thing that some type talk involves?

[@CSJoseph]

lies

[@mattmatthewmatchuu]

My entp brother you are getting more coherent with your words. I think the new trendy thing for an isfp is beer crafting haha

[@Kilakilic]

From a philosophical point of view the universal truth cant be determined as of lacking objective input. After realising this I had a huge identity crysis, but after, found myself to be more empathetic with people. Is that may be of ISTP hero finding humility and maturing or ISFP deamon showing up? Thanks :)

[@Mlobb7]

Can someone tell me the time stamps of the important parts of the video??? C.S rambles too much and I don’t have the time to sit through a 50 min video

[@PunkFiddler]

Hmm. Watching these videos made me wonder... if a person is in his/her demon mode and you have no idea what to do, would it be wise to seek input from people who have that demon function as their hero? I mean i think i would be very useful when you pit me against an ISFP in demon mode and so are they with me when i am in demon mode.

[@nachiketpargaonkar8646]

That's an interesting query! A discussion & answer is needed!

[@CSJoseph]

No, just heal the inferior

[@ducksauce123]

I’m torn between both of these. I was originally an istp a few years ago. Then healed a ton of trauma and did a ton of work on myself. Now I took the test and am isfp. Yet have a ton of qualities of both. Hrmmm

[@HodsBroo]

Istp taking all the good advice Cs Joseph has to give. Trying to free everyone 😊

[@1611Barbarian]

As an S-P, your outfit is on point here brotha

[@AV-tm5zf]

Nice hoodie. You look comfy.

[@zinasantana]

Just how many lines of coke did you do before hitting record?

[@CSJoseph]

Never done cocaine before. No desire to start either.

[@zenithgreyhatENTJ]

I still don't know how ISTPs virtue signal more compared to ISFPs. How does Fi-demon do that?

[@FirstLast-nr3fm]

My watch is 150 cm from my computer, and the glass I am drinking out of is 71 mm from the edge of my table. Type me.

[@joezupko]

Damn this man is laying down facts. I feel called out as an ISTP haha good to hear though!

[@Fedraco]

Can some one be an ISTP and not like alcohol, find bars boring as hell, and prefer to play D&D?

[@CSJoseph]

if they were raised in the church, yes

[@Fedraco]

@@CSJoseph Thank you, guess that concludes I am not an ISTP.

[@spellbrand477]

I'm late but as an ISTP i dislike alchohol and smoking, and i'm atheist, so it's possible.

[@vicsevilla4882]

Thank yous, informative as always

[@M_SVD]

Thank You really much man...people always dislike or against you in mbti community but i think you are the best man and also in the depth of MBTI SPs are Op but that Ne tricksters is really dangerous 😂😂 hope our verifys come true😊

[@sam_amar]

Oookayyy......I can relate with your ENFJ Father so much. ISTP Dad and ENFJ son here

[@deboraalbuquerque6389]

I'm ISFP. I'm in love with ENTPs. I love CS Joseph

[@remi1983]

mann i cried a little bit about isfp's 'voice' because it's just so true.....

[@austinwilliams8174]

Infj vs istp 😮😮😮

[@harteamom]

Wow. So right I have an Isfp exhusband and an Istp current husband, and o my word everything about this is so true. But just to add one thing... I am an Enfp and although I honestly had horrible intentions in the beginning of both relationships, I became madly in love with both. I am, to use your words, insanely loyal. So much so the break up with the Isfp ex changed me. I lost my cheerfulness. Other ppl convinced him I was not loyal even though I was. I remained loyal for a year into our separation. I struggle now with my Istp husband because although I am completely loyal to him, I pretend like I am indifferent because I don't want him to feel like he owns me. Well really, I don't want to feel like he owns me. I wish they understood that because I could easily manipulate them is y I don't and y I wouldn't. I hate it that my current Istp husband asks me everything, because I am afraid of putting ideas into his head. I like him. I want to hear what he thinks not a parrot of what I said. Anyways, I love ur vids and have watched sooooo many of them even though u seem to think my type is the snake in the grass ready to pounce but that is far from true. I spend most of my time being hurt by others and being taken advantage of, then I do the same to someone else but then become obsessed with them, make them awesome and then they leave me because the beginning was bad and discount all the amazing since.

[@ΒασίληςΤσοπανίδης-ρ4ι]

Everything you say is true its scary, (not so ...) . One thing I want to say, I AM NOT AN ARTIST! Can an isfp feel good without playing music or painting or making movies or something? I have seen a billion of your videos promoting the creative ability of the isfp to create beautiful art... I am a seaman is that so bad? Ok maybe I need to change my occupation to feel full but I have not honed my skills in the conventional arts , is there nothing else useful I can do with my creativity??? Can I not be free not to be an artist?? No need to answer... even though I would appreciate it...

[@ΒασίληςΤσοπανίδης-ρ4ι]

Sorry for this post I didn't mean anything by it , I am just sneaking on behalf of those of us (100% ISFP you have explained the function so perfectly) that have not been trained in the arts... even though we are imaginative and original. Honestly thank you for your videos they really help.

[@CSJoseph]

ISFPs have a craft, it doesn't have to be in "the arts" but there's usually something they're trying to make perfect. Maybe it's a process, or work or something. It's often an art, but that's not required to be.

[@carlymestep9001]

Lol @ that sp hoodie comment because I was just thinking you looked appealing in the q&a vid and this one; and had come to the conclusion it must be the hoodie 😂

[@wolfman6489]

Nice dumbledore wand were you pulling your memories out for a sec?

[@CSJoseph]

its belongs to Gellert Grindelwald, the true master of the elder wand

[@imnotfunny21]

Could you please do a video on ISTP's lustful/romantic/long term relationship compatibility

[@Wetballs]

Istp going on a 2 year relationship with infp. While yes bumpy we are able to work out put issues well and in a good constructed matter.

[@CSJoseph]

its a private lecture available on patreon.com/csjoseph gold tier

[@imnotfunny21]

@@CSJoseph Will do! Is the video: S14E1 - The First Golden Pair - ESTJ & ISTP ?

[@bendadestroyer]

*Holy shit, the level of ISTP resentment. I'm an ISTP;my wife is ISFP. Would you PLEASE do a compatibility video. Thank you very much. I hope you learn to forgive your grandfather and mother.*

[@CSJoseph]

I forgive everyone. Doesn’t mean I am not going to hold them accountable

[@heatherbryant4197]

I see a key difference between the meanings of "charitable" and "generous" being one not only of quantity but of need (by the recipient). "Charity" is often considered giving to the homeless, the hungry, those below the poverty level or other such groups who are in great need of assistance. Generosity is giving more than is needed or expected. A CEO could give his VP a generous Christmas bonus (that would not be considered charitable because the VP already makes a handsome salary and doesn't "need" it), but that same CEO could give a charitable donation to an organization that provides housing for homeless veterans and it would be considered charitable because the beneficiaries are in their hour of need. But it could also be generous if it were a large donation, no? I think charity can be generous, but generosity is not always charitable, because it depends on who is receiving the help. Does your distinction factor this aspect in as well? I just now realized many of my problems in personal relationships stem from being control and responding. I create a process unique to every situation and get frustrated when others try to impose old processes on new/unique situations (which seems shortsighted and careless in my mind). Yes it's slow, but it's thorough and attentive to detail and confounding variables. I say "there's no milk" instead of "go get milk" because I don't want to disrespect another person's freedom of choice to do what they want by telling them what to do. (And I also want to know they're doing things for me of their own volition and not under duress, because otherwise you have a whipping boy and not a man of action or initiative, right?). But then I get criticized for not being direct enough. 🤦 If someone wants me to be more direct, does that mean they're most likely direct or responding? I can see direct people wanting others to be direct because it's the way of communicating they best understand, but I could also see direct people wanting others to be responding, because otherwise there could be a power-struggle. Both seem plausible, hence why I ask. At first I wasn't going to watch this whole video, but then I realized the differences between the cognitive functions of the ISTP vs ISFP are exactly the same as INTP vs INFP (same perceiving axis mid-stack and Ti hero Fe inferior vs Fi hero Te inferior). I still go through what I've noticed to be cycles where I question my type. I usually finish a cycle by concluding I'm most likely INTP again, yet that skepticism always creeps in again later. Could you do an INTP vs INFP video in the future if it isn't already on your list? On a random note, closed captioning thinks you're always talking about "golden pears" 🍐😂

[@CSJoseph]

yes it does, thank you for this awesome comment heather.

[@spoonsnaper]

Nice rambling

[@akaboo69]

ENTJ roommate gave me a room in a nice house for very cheap so yes she's very much in her virtue

[@Binyamin.Tsadik]

I kept thinking about our interview the whole time I was watching this. A great point in reality to confirm / reject what was being said here.

[@akaboo69]

@@Binyamin.Tsadik true your Ti hero needs verification

[@solo2367]

20:23 sounds like me

[@st3llarmemer111]

So would the demon function as an "angel" work like this?: ENP makes reality "better" instead of destroying it by coming up with something making it better and bringing visions to life ESP doing something right now and changing the future path for the better instead of ruining the future

[@CSJoseph]

sort of

[@henkster6067]

I'm in the hole... The freedom was fun not helping people but myself Didn't help me so now I'm Stuck in shackles... And nobody to help me out... Freedom is a bitch hey...

[@futureplanet6910]

Thanks! Please do a vid about ISTP with INFP

[@ashmototherapy]

ISTP here. Helping others build themselves up destroyed me and drained me of any happiness. Be cautious fellow ISTPs. Narcissists are like predators and find us and use us and drain the life out of us. Appreciate your passion but your missing how helping others can become abusive. And our persistence to help/fix can be our biggest downfall.

[@someoneelsewhere9519]

Can you compare INTPs and ISTJs?

[@sonicmaths8285]

They are very different. The only thing they have in common is the perception axis. I think ISTJ’s and INTP’s could work as coworkers together just fine since Ti is pondering + creating the systems and the ISTJ is adopting the systems or accepting them Friendship could work as well but a bit hard to sustain. I’m an INTP and one of my best friends is an ISTJ. It works when we’re talking about computers, books, videos or other concrete intellectual topics but he isn’t interested in the theoretical concepts underpinning them however he appreciates my theories which is fine by me

[@KikiKaraoke19]

I wonder if I’m an ISFP or INFJ

[@akaboo69]

Ni child = me wanting New guitars I want a Jackson A Gibson Etc

[@VTdarkangel]

I would join, but I refuse to use patreon. Do you have other means?

[@CSJoseph]

we will be having subscriptions through our website membership soon.

[@henkster6067]

If Fi hero of ISFP express truth through their art and convicts people, how do INFPs express their truth through using their Fi hero?

[@CSJoseph]

ISFP has Fi hero dude

[@henkster6067]

@@CSJoseph question is changed. I made a mistake. You said something about the INFPs express it somehow through their creed/ philosophy? Or am I a bit lost here...?

[@onniheadhunter2890]

Hey, i didnt ask you to give a lecture in preparation of a PHD in personality typing. Thank you for doing so nevertheless

[@LawnGnomePower]

Can you beat up on INFJs soon. As an INTJ my best friend an INFJ can really get on my nerves sometimes.

[@Leneah99]

LawnGnomePower Watch “Who are the Infj’s?”...should give you a fix :)

[@heatherbryant4197]

I'm curious what bothers you about INFJs. I can imagine from an INTJ perspective, but I'm not an INTJ so I don't want to jump to conclusions.

[@Leneah99]

Heather Bryant In my experience as an Infj, I’ve been criticized for speaking too quietly, acting “stuck up” or too serious, being too nice, spending too much time getting ready, and procrastinating. I’m guessing any one, or more, of these things. However, I can’t speak for an Intj, either.

[@heatherbryant4197]

@@Leneah99 lol I've been criticized for every thing on that list as well and I'm an INTP. I think many of those fall under the category of "things women get criticized for" ... well, the taking too long getting ready, being too nice, and speaking too quietly, at least. I think Ni-doms are perceived as more serious, while Ti-doms are seen as arrogant or stuck-up. I see procrastinating as more of an IxxP thing, especially INxP, but I can see how inferior Se could cause those issues as well. As for INFJs from an INTJ perspective, I think one of the biggest conflicts stems from the combination of Fe parent versus PoLR Fe. INFJs value social tact and responsibly fostering harmony, while INTJs like to be blunt and are often criticized for having bad Fe, perhaps even by INFJs. INTJs can struggle to get along with people and abide by social etiquette norms, while INFJs make it look easy and are good at getting people to like them. Fi child might also see Fe parent as fake or phony. And Te will be focused on efficient problem-solving, while Ti will be more slow, deliberative, and focused on semantics. So Te parent can get frustrated with Ti child for taking too long to come to a conclusion about what is true and not solving problems in the way they understand. That's my take on it, but I'd still be interested to hear an INTJ perspective. I actually really like INFJs, but that's because they seem to model the qualities I wish I had (better Fe, being able to narrow down possibilities to reach a singular conclusion, getting more done in the physical environment, since I have aspirational Fe & PoLR Se), without sacrificing intelligence, as Ti child is rather competent and still optimistic, but less abrasive than Ti hero.

[@Leneah99]

@@heatherbryant4197 You are awesome. I always enjoy your comments. I don't know if you noticed how a video about Istps and Isfps turned into a discussion between an Infj and an Intp, and our take on someone else's comment, but that seems fairly typical on this channel, maybe also KZbin, but I don't spend much time elsewhere on here, other than music and fitness videos...Anyway, I digress. I could definitely see how we as women could typically get criticized for those things, thank you for pointing that out, I never thought of it that way. The being stuck up thing, I've attributed to Fe parent/Fi critic, and how people perceive it. It hits me in the heart, because I never think I am better or worse than any one else, coming from the view of being only one of a collective. I agree it can be seen as fake or phony, but I think we both know, it is sincere. I have been in situations where I had to problem solve, while under a toe-tapping, finger-drumming stare of someone who is rolling their eyes and saying, "what's taking so long, do you know how long this will take?," while Ti child figured out a solution for them. All the while thinking, "it takes as long as it takes," but saying, "sorry for the delay, we are 3/4 there." I look forward to a reply, if you have further thoughts on this. But I agree, it would be interesting to hear an Intj perspective on what annoys them about Infjs.

[@mollyeva7006]

Thank you best coach! ❤

[@CSJoseph]

Any time

[@thurston2235]

I did not understand the differences very well. It was too abstract for me. - ISTP