HOW GOOD IS PHYREXIA ALL WILL BE ONE IN cEDH? - THE PLAY TO WIN PODCAST

[@LPchief]

Cameron is a hero for being the one who keeps reading the cards, regardless of how much they make fun of Him :) Respect my man

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Not all of us where capes haha

[@_claymore]

@@PlaytoWinMTG where capes? *monke stare*

[@Taphosthewarlock]

@@_claymore Clearly dyslexic, did you watch the video? The sentence gives you plenty of context to know that the intent is "wear". Perhaps you should consider not being an arse?

[@_claymore]

@@Taphosthewarlock perhaps you should consider that it's a joke? the whole episode they joked around the mispronunciations, and the "where [insert word]" with the monkeys on the couch is a well known meme..

[@shawnhancock3963]

Cameron doing God's work tbh

[@murrowmench1565]

Tyler is the “straight faced” man in this comedy crew and his deadpan gets me every time

[@bryanlincks8323]

Tyler is me when I have access to my ADHD meds. Cameron and Dylan are me without. IYKYK

[@FoldyHold]

LMFAO BRUH💀

[@kevkjos]

I felt this on a molecular level!

[@federicorostagno7042]

I aspire to be as chill as Tyler one day

[@Fehrbye]

Cankerbloom being a strictly Outland Liberator better due to not having to track day/night had me rolling

[@K1aymor]

I mean, that's going in my Animar deck for that sole reason. I agree 1000%

[@maxbodifee3263]

I never track day/night and just blow it up asap 🙃

[@K1aymor]

That's the worst part aboit day and night. Technically, once tracked it must be tracked. But heard lol. I also don't play in tournaments.

[@Zelphiez]

TYLER! He does such a good job of balancing Dylan and Cam's natural chaos. Love the set reviews, they're great insight.

[@nekos310]

Love having Tyler on the show. I always like seeing him commenting or playing over other channel guests! Dude is smart!

[@TheM0nkeyslay]

I’m surprised that no one mentions Doomsday when talking about Tyvar. It immediately drops your pile to 2 cards and then reanimates thoracle, which is harder to interact with than casting spells.

[@Tspang42]

That is quite gas

[@thiscountryboy4976]

oh.... oh damn....

[@Zelphiez]

Tyvar got one hell of a glow up in this set he's so nuts haha

[@music00soba]

extremely mana intensive though, which is a big downside over the much quicker led piles. not sure tyvar will see much play in doomsday, but 100% in druid piles and uber golgari jank

[@cart02]

Don’t play cEDH but you’re both so entertaining and make the format less intimidating than I’d always thought

[@Xeno-MTG]

Cankerbloom's name does make sense though. A canker is a slowly growing area of dead tissue on plants, this one happens to bloom. It's like a beautiful phyrexian flower. And since cankers can be caused by pathogenic fungi it all comes together in a weird amalgamation of lifeforms that is typical for the glory of Phyrexia

[@jacadivazquez5776]

Canker actually means destructive fungal disease lol

[@MindLaboratory]

47:55 - not only is Tyler the best magic player, his ventriloquism skills are also really coming along

[@magnetic_heart]

Love the visuals for this ep!!! Having the card title at the bottom of what you're talking about, along with the visuals (with updated visuals based on diff cards being talked about) was fantastic! :D

[@TrafficKone05]

I'm surprised there wasn't mention of Mercurial Spelldancer. IMO that card is a great fit in most midrange blue decks. It's really easy to put counters on it and once you do you can double up on a big draw spell, removal spell, or tutor which seems really good. I don't think we've seen something that can repeatedly double up spells this easily before. I think it's worth checking out.

[@Mad-gu5bn]

Came here to say the same. And it's unblockable. Surely, it will find a home in Blue Tymna decks

[@benjaminking3677]

Tyvar’s Stand is also a worthy mention. Cheap 1 mana protection spells for non-blue decks are great. It also has some extra benefits for decks like Marwyn.

[@maxbodifee3263]

I also put Cankerbloom in Marwyn but mine is not a cedh deck (HP combo). She is one of the few cedh commanders where proliferate would matter tho

[@gardenrose729]

I love how every card that is somewhat playable in white and red always comes with the question "Is it good in Winota?".

[@relijinn826]

Well Winota is basically the quintessential boros commander in cedh so it's understandable lol

[@RoflPwny]

The new “Is this a Najeela card?”

[@Jrocknrolla]

Please excuse my language but really I fucking LOVE the interactions between the three of you... such an awesome show nevermind just an awesome MAGIC show.

[@Natan-jd4ii]

Making Cameron read all the cards is the best running joke on this channel

[@jareddease1082]

Thank you all for uploading. Love the material and always look forward to more videos from the channel. Nice to see Tyler onboard and love the discourse. Great video.

[@CherryDad]

What I like about synthesis pod -- counter wars. If they counter your counterspell, exile your countered counterspell from the stack and get free value.

[@Zectzozda]

43:00 As someone who had an aurochs casual 60-card deck for 10 years, I appreciate the Aurochs reference! We need more of them!

[@thestrugglingchef30]

Food for thought. I immediately proxied The Micosynth garden into my Meria stacks list more as protection against removal. Because you can activate it at instant speed to make a copy of whatever stax piece (ie. Winter orb, trinisphere, static orb) or combo finisher like grinding station while removal for them is still on the stack

[@gabrielpinatecaballero1666]

i like the idea of holding up mana for mycosynth garden for when someone wants to remove a artifatc stack piece and u respond for a copy on the stack since you can activate instant speed

[@lolxae]

Tyler's contrast to Cam and Dylan is absolutely perfect, I'm subscribing to patreon just for more of this. This set is a complete cEDH dud, I want to see a podcast where these 3 can really get a good topic!

[@irt3hsaint]

Elesh Norn doubling effects like O-Ring, Resto Angel, Flickerwisp, Ranger Captain seems like it could be fun in a heavy prison build. Chuck in some initiative cards, Palace Jailer and effects like that, I reckon it's got some legs

[@bensteinhauser784]

One relevant point for Tyvar that was missed is that it can be back up post hermit druid activation. If your dread return is countered you still have his second ability.

[@PubStompMTG]

Definitely loving gleeful demolition for my Tevesh/Jeska Deck. Get Tevesh out off of a Mana Vault and then destroy the vault for some more card draw. May consider it to be my first tutor, depending on my artifact boardstate, when tutoring for razaketh to get three bodies to sac for 1 mana. Also, I could count for artifact removal, but 99% of the time im removing my own artifacts for bodies to sac.

[@Olivia-ev9hk]

Tyler has strong 50's dad energy and I'm here for it. The whole exclamations marks interaction was perfect.

[@tonyvazquez7612]

Ovika isn't stopped by effects that limit card draws, like Eidolon of Rhetoric or Notion Thief. Locust God requires you to draw before you make a token. Minor Misstep can also hit free spells, unlike Mental Misstep. Tyvar makes me want to look at Sultai Sidisi again.

[@mightyone3737]

Not having Protection matters a ton for Auras, Hexproof doesn't make existing ones fall off. It's not a huge ability, but I mean if you want Mom in the Command Zone (and don't want to run Orim, Samite Healer), then Skrelv can do it's thing for you. I feel like this is definitely not a cEDH thing, but it's neat in Casual to get swamped by everyone because your Commander gives poison counters and is a bad mother. Cankers are also an issue on trees, many Malus and Prunis trees that make edible fruits can get canker issues, and spray is used to control. There is also rust that afflicts Malus family trees, as well as Thujas. The more you know!

[@mrtaco321123]

I'd like to note that synthesis pod hitting a force of vigor or the black free cycle will usually hit adnaus for the cost of exiling a spell from hand or just having your commander

[@TunedToDoom]

Tyler balances you guys out so well. His strong opinions and "matter of factness" adds a good dry humor to the conversation. Always been a fan of his board assessment and gameplay knowledge. Would love to see more of him in these podcasts!

[@jacobbecicka2291]

I don’t know if winota runs opal or amber but Skrelvwould help turn those on too. Mycosynth gardens should just be a copy of esper sentinel.

[@obicortes8199]

Elesh Norn is more like Yarok and Torpal Orb because Panharmonicon does not double landfall triggers, but Elesh Norn and Yarok do.

[@Vagrantlol]

Tyvar is gonna be cracked in my Sisay//Jegantha list, also loved the podcast as always! Tyler's reaction to For Mirrodin! was hilarious

[@awesomesauce_3516]

Bit late to this, but I'd like to point out that Soulless Jailer doesn't stop Food Chain wins (unless it's First Sliver I guess?), as it only prevents you from casting NONcreature spells from exile, so Squee can still be cast.

[@dnielsen1983]

I love Tylers reaction to Dylans comment on canker meening lip, that's the ultimate WTF look :D

[@ThaddeusMike]

Great work as always. I do think you were fair on the individual cards but undersold the set as a whole. There are several cards that are good in their own niches, which is healthy for the format. Soulless jailer is going to be a solid piece in a lot of stax decks; the fact that it's a creature makes tutoring it out much easier for decks in green and it is absolutely perfect for Jetmir. I could be wrong but I think Skrelv is good for Sisay. There's not a lot for generic four and five color goodstuff piles, but there are definitely solid pieces that push some second and third tier decks a bit closer to the best decks.

[@Dracomandriuthus]

Something to consider with new Atraxa, you can easily decide to ritual her out if you don't have much gas going on and try and dig for a game win. 10 cards deep is crazy deep. A "count to 7" hand with Atraxa is definitely keepable

[@thedoctor1471]

I need the face Tyler made when you mentionned a Winota sideboard card as a token or a sticker. That was the best "what the f*ck are you saying" face I've ever seen.

[@salthekato]

Not gonna lie , love that you guys are back doing podcast. Keep up the good work .

[@definitelynotmany4972]

4:00 I think Skrelv is going to be a Winnota staple; it protects Winota until the moment it triggers her ability. I think it being non-human is the dealbreaker that puts it above mother of runes

[@thedoctor1471]

Naaah. Skrelv only protects winota if it's untapped, so you don't attack with her. Mother of runes is a good card because either it's played early and can protect winota when it comes, or it's put into play for free with indestructible then can protect winota. Skrelv ... well if it comes before winota it doesn't trigger it and if winota is in play you wanna attack with it but then you don't protect anything.

[@AndrewWoodford]

Soulless Jailer doesn’t stop Food Chain loops. (Sorry if somebody already mentioned it)

[@master_of_mono_black]

One of the few MTG Channels worth watching.

[@emmettmccleary4946]

tyler's ventriloquism skills in the latter half of the video deserve some commendation!

[@arturstasienko2234]

Mercuroal spelldancer. Requiers set up, but can dubble tutors and offers additional protection for win with a counter. But it's for stax/midrange option. Will be testing it out. Kind of reminds me of divining witch, not very good on paper, but wins games. Also one card win con with consultation, search up oracle and clean out library. Casting 2 non creature spells shouldn't be a huge obstacle. And who's going to waste removal on it? Also Elish norn is a 99 card.

[@andrewharper4138]

For the argument on canker. The two main meaning have to do with Ulcers on animals. And the first one is a destructive fungal disease which effects some types of trees.

[@kelm102]

Perhaps not so much in the context of cEDH, but The Mycosynth Gardens is getting talked about briefly in formats where you can have it become a copy of LED on T1 or 2.

[@ralphcrisci8359]

Filigree Sylex IS a ratchet bomb that is also an outlet for isoscepter decks. it's probably the most playable version of that since it's also a removal spell?

[@kristopherwatts9466]

I'm both very interested, and very aggravated(That they're giving us a very unneeded card supertype) to see what 'Battles' are all about, so that could MAYBE justify revisiting Atraxa. With Unctus, I have a suspicion alot of the untap shenanigan creatures are also wizards, so that opens up the 2 wizard cycling cards(with the one being something you can get with most blue tutors, so that could really make him a really solid deck (Just my 2 cents!)

[@stephens.7233]

Canker: A plant canker is a small area of dead tissue, which grows slowly, often over years.

[@stephanblijleven8189]

What i personally like about synthesis pod is that it kinda makes your spells uncounterable. Not exactly cuz you do have to get rid of it BUT it does make sure you get value out of stuff that would get counterred otherwise. Maybe more fore casual than anything else but i can't wait to exile something that would get countered otherwise and than still getting a punch with it by exilling it and casting something awesome in return

[@dimitriosdoulgeris4659]

To correct Tyler: There are some known fungi which are able to produce a form of light - best known as bio-luminescence.

[@strahlungsopfer]

Tyler's look of absolute disbelief over Cam butchering words cracked me up

[@salchi-papa]

With Tyvar, you can run Arena Rector and Pattern of rebirth if you're in Tymna/Thras if you're doing a creature heavy list? Basing this off of the Rector Fit deck Callahan had made.

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Could be good!

[@ingolf82]

as a locust god EDH player, I will point out that the locust god is a 1-card combo in the command zone, where as Ovika is not. With the locust god out, you cast Sage of the falls and you draw and discard your whole deck and with an Eldrazi titan in the library, you do this infinitely, creating infinite locusts with haste that then kill everyone. I see skrelv's hive as a cheaper money-wise bitterblossem. because bitterblossom is not a cheap card, hastag reprint.

[@nikolaskohl4269]

Fun vid and great look at the cards! And odd thing maybe, but a canker is a diseased growth on a tree and fungi can absolutely bloom, so cankerbloom vaguely makes sense. Why is a phyrexian fungi growing in a tree? Who knows

[@Its-Lulu]

Hell yeah it's nice to wake up to a new vid from you guys :)

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Twice a week now for twice the nice mornings!

[@willmatson3103]

Myr Convert might also see play in Winota. Mercurial Spelldancer could see play in Tymna decks with blue. Some red decks may want to test Vindictive Flamestoker.

[@gjones9356]

Caught that ITYSL reference at 40:00. “That’s what you sound like?!” Love the content bois

[@lukedalrymple7677]

I don't play cedh but I play very low cmc decks tyvar looks like such a fun card, love the design, its a thousand year elixir, with a small reanimation target. pure value. going straight into my garth one eye deck just for the possibility of reanimating my bloom tender, mom, humble defector, or fauna shaman. it looks super fun! also i am always looking for more graveyard hate, and soulless jailer looks great.

[@janmelantu7490]

Tyvar looks great in any deck you want to play Lurrus in the 99

[@dafickler]

I think minor misstep is better than you think. At a minimum you can definitely save it to protect your win condition in the counter wars. All those other counter spells you guys listed are all 1 mana and you can counter them with this. Tons of your episodes consist of a counter war where this would play well.

[@K1aymor]

I feel like Birgi just got a new card. Vindictive Flamestroker Basically R with Brigi to keep storming off because you dump your hand, tap/sac: discard your hand and draw 4. 1/2 body for R.

[@swat6591]

I love these set review videos. A lot of insight for cards that I overlook.

[@satan15107291]

I canNOT believe they didn't mention Urtet. Myr tribal is here! I'm sure it could be relevant in cEDH, right?

[@omerastrahan4952]

Another point to the izzet scepter commander is that you dont need to go positive in mana with loop. Being mana neutral still makes the creatures. Not sure how much it matters...

[@r3dmanMIC]

Captain Sisay loves the new Elesh very very much. Tutorable thoracle/dockside hate is great!

[@-homerow-]

4:10 canker (n.) late Old English cancer "spreading ulcer, cancerous tumor," from Latin cancer "malignant tumor," literally "crab" (see cancer, which is its doublet). The form was influenced in Middle English by Old North French cancre "canker, sore, abscess" (Old French chancre, Modern French chancre). The word was the common one for "cancer" until c. 1700, but since the reintroduction of cancer in a more scientific sense it has tended to be restricted to gangrenous sores of the mouth. Also used since 15c. of caterpillars and insect larvae that eat plant buds and leaves. As a verb, "to corrode, corrupt," from late 14c. Related: Cankered; cankerous.

[@-homerow-]

*kar- also *ker-, Proto-Indo-European root meaning "hard." It forms all or part of: -ard; Bernard; cancer; canker; carcinogen; carcinoma; careen; chancre; -cracy; Gerard; hard; hardly; hardy; Leonard; Richard; standard. It is the hypothetical source of/evidence for its existence is provided by: Sanskrit karkatah "crab," karkarah "hard;" Greek kratos "strength," kratys "strong;" "hard;" Old English heard, German hart "solid and firm, not soft."

[@adamfisher7099]

Very excited for the Mycosynth Gardens. Also has cool synergies in blink themes. Good stuff, gents.

[@johnhaskins9956]

I just want to add that with hermit druid and tyvar, that you can activate tyvar's -2 and in response activate the druid to mill your library and then resolve his ability to reanimate the thassa's oracle in your graveyard. Do you guys think this is a playable line or is it too "jank" with the amount of mana involved?

[@lancenaquin8911]

Totally agree for other formats this set is sooooo good but for cedh its lacking definitely but i play everything so im excited !

[@moshjoshpitchief4418]

you can be mana nuetral with ovika sceptre and still make infinite hasty goblins to win. i think that may be a unique feature. talrand before could make drakes but they weren't hasty. locust god requires net positive mana and both colors. FWIW

[@Dracomandriuthus]

You kinda need to go mana positive to be able to cast your dumb 7 mana commander. It's why I think she's not really viable.

[@moshjoshpitchief4418]

@@Dracomandriuthus mana positive with your rocks and other things you are untapping with the sceptre, there are many ways to get your commander out fast and still not be mana positive with isorev or only have 1 color of mana from your rocks.

[@patcharamitanee5645]

Press Like to Pay respect for Cam pronounncing skill ,Love to see more of this :D

[@Dubhats]

I think the new Elesh Norn is soooo good if you can stick it. Just ramp into it super fast & play all the Mother of Runes effects and cards like Loran's Escape and just grind the game out with stax. If no one can win via Thassa's or Dockside loops you can just grind them to dust

[@NewSchoolPOKERstrat]

Love you all very much. That said; this thing about minor misstep.. Tyler said “ask yourself each time you play mental m if you had to pay one mana for this would you want to do it”.. that sorta is a good point. But I think it’s hinting at something different from what it might seem. I used to think mental misstep was not a good card and should not be played when I saw how people used it. And I actually think it’s not a good card the way people use it. If the card said “discard this and lose two life the first time any player tries to play any card w mana cost one then that card is countered” then that card would be dog shit. And that’s roughly how it is played fairly often. I think the much better way to play and think of mental misstep is to play it mostly as a way to protect your own wins accept in emergency. Maybe the fact that you can’t just tap out and waste minor misstep on a sol ring will make it a better piece for some players at first? So the thing about it is it counters virtually every damn piece of interaction in the format. That’s very good and in a lot of decks I think it’s gonna be better than spellsnare. I like spellsnare a lot and play the shit out of it but it’s coming out in some of my lists for minor misstep.. Malcolm Tana for instance, I want another counter for your counters and to tell yours lightning bolts and swords to kick rocks when aimed at my poor defenseless little pirate bro. I run misdirection in that deck over force of negation and I know that’s a hot take but I feel the same way about minor m vs spellsnare. In decks that are trying to control the game more prob snare is > minor m. But I think MinM might be better in decks like turbo nause/Malcolm Tana. I feel fairly confident but I guess time will tell.. probably. Namaste homies 🖖

[@VeilofDeathMTG]

I came here to listen to Cam read cards, I leave a happy Man :)

[@official_uhu]

"It's not the worst" thats exactly what my commander should be 😄

[@CptMoralSupport]

It also stops turn 1 Rog and countering all your zero mana spells too

[@davidpipes6805]

I’ve been brewing Ovika ever since it was spoiled. I LOVE IT.

[@MufasaTheMan]

I love these videos and I Double love them when they are set reviews because we get Tyler. He looks like a dad handling his two 10 year olds. Makes me laugh everytime.

[@signisakanades1329]

Unctus also makes creatures artifacts, which means you could pull off some other weird lines using that portion.

[@jamesmooney6472]

Probably a big stretch, but the new Nahiri being a pseudo reanimator card in Boros with additional text is neat, similar to Tyvar as a 3 cost that brings back a 2 drop that can activate immediately is interesting, probably only playable for Modern though

[@velocevisrin5060]

I could see atraxa as a reanimation target in a thras/tymna reanimator. Draw 5 from the top 10 is pretty good card advantage

[@StackedEDH]

thank you for this All Will Be One Fast And One Furious: And It's Elesh Norn And She's Pissed set review

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Stay tuned for All Will Be Two!

[@billygorilla]

for the unctus thing, you cant play lightning greaves bc the creature couldn't target itself.

[@ChrisThe1]

i think what they're missing on ovika is the fact that with a phyrexian altar all your spells are free. this isn't a locust god, as it doesn't draw, rather it makes mana

[@Someblondeman]

I think the best application for all will be one is gonna be animar with ancestral statue, now it kills the table too

[@rkk667]

Appreciate the card names up during chats

[@johnflagg7067]

No mention of Sisay when talking about Skrelv? It's going to snap into those decks

[@Snamify]

Souless Jailer could find play in Oswald Fiddlebender! Will definitely try.

[@DefCatofficial]

cankerbloom is amazing in Yisan as it can get you extra counters on Yisan to skip ahead to ashaya

[@flniggl5016]

your thoughts on Vindictive Flamestoker, i like it maybe in low colour breach decks

[@togethergutlesss]

I think rot priest is a cool alternative combo peace and mercurial spelldancer seems like good value card and beater it kinda doubles your spells and it unblockable

[@SifSehwan]

I don't even play cEDH anymore, but this content is just great!

[@randallferguson1981]

I’ve already had a mystic remora countered by minor misstep. It’s 1 or less btw counters much more than most 1 mana spells

[@Tupiaz]

Hall of the Bandit Lord and Thousand-Year Elixir could be used in Unctus as haste enablers.

[@Death_by_Tech]

I don’t like mental misstep but I want to point out that it does beat offer you can’t refuse and swan song at countering 1 mana creatures

[@CeltiesSin]

When I first looked at tyvar from a 7-8 level mindset, I’m like “this is lame” but y’all’s 9-10 mindset really got me thinkin that he may be worth it 😬 he’s not flashy like the bigger walkers of the set, but he’s just good value 🤷‍♀️

[@GabrielCruz-kh3zb]

The "second" Brain Freeze has always existed in the form of Glimpse the Unthinkable

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

Ya but it being two colors means led can’t cast it off one activation

[@saxyguitar7780]

I think in a Copy Scepter deck the new instant "Prologue to Phyresis" is sick. Worst cast it's an over cost loot. Best case it imprint's on the 2nd Scepter and wins the game.

[@joskajiri]

this episode had such funny and weird energy and your interactions between each other as well, lel. Maybe bcs of Tyler, he was meaaan sometimes and Dylen didnt take it so good

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

I didn’t?

[@joskajiri]

@@PlaytoWinMTG it seemed to me that way :d i felt sorry kinda sorry for your sweet soul

[@matthewvanginneken6793]

Is there any reason why Torrent Elemental isn't run in food chain decks? I know you were sayings that a downside of Atraxa's colors is only 2 food chain options, but you do have 3 still. Albeit, Torrent Elemental does cost more than Squee does CMC wise to get the thing started

[@angelatheist]

The mana from food chain can only be used to cast creatures, it can't be used to activate abilities of creatures like torrent elemental

[@matthewvanginneken6793]

@@angelatheist i...never knew that. Thank you! Reading the card sure does explain the card huh