How GOOD was Pelipper ACTUALLY? - History of Pelipper in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 3-7)

Pelipper is today’s Pokemon for our competitive history series! Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Pelipper in competitive Pokemon!
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0:00 - Intro
0:41 - ADV/Gen 3
2:05 - DPP/Gen 4
3:31 - BW/Gen 5
5:00 - XY/Gen 6
6:28 - SM/Gen 7
9:30 - VGC Gen 7
12:42 - Outro
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Notice I said POPULAR formats, meaning a format where there is a significant amount of people who compete in it for tournaments and so on and so forth.
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[@FalseSwipeGaming]

Thank you to those who pointed it out. 9:30 Gen 7 Pelipper HP: 60 Attack: 50 Defense: 100 Sp. Atk: 95!!! NOT 85 Sp. Def: 70 Speed: 65 We deeply apologize for this error.

[@newsupermariobros2862]

Ok

[@jeffreyfiegen1538]

I'm amazed at how many people pointed it out

[@ultravegeta4940]

no problem

[@arachnophobe]

Add an annotation

[@anfuznar]

You also forgot to add Palkia to the competitive history playlist

[@captainsnifflesthewizard]

Gens 3-6: Absolute Trash Gen 7: Absolute Unit

[@psyduck1264]

lol

[@slavkei]

Gen 8, 9, 10: Flip a coin for each gen to see if it'll even exist in the game data for that gen!

[@SilverTheHedgehog090]

It's amazing what a single ability can do

[@adambebb99]

@@SilverTheHedgehog090 especially considering that ability was nerfed and it still took it from bottom tier to OU

[@Thund3rDrag0n12]

Adam Bebb That’s because modern rain teams hardly abuse Swift Swim anymore unless it’s Swampert. It’s just there to give already powerful Pokémon (Torn, Koko, Gren) more power (100% Hurricanes and Thunders, beefed-up Hydros, etc.). A rain team could still very much function outside of rain. The rain just pushes the power level over the top

[@jjtheenton]

OU Pokemon HATE him! Learn how he became competitively viable with this one weird trick!

[@Lauren_C]

Actually true...

[@gkguido055]

Verlisify is that you

[@gatoMan102]

Gokou Blacc actually made me BAOMN (blow air out my nose)

[@michaelbell3952]

Hahahaha

[@zstrikr9064]

Rick roll pops up

[@aaronmurray9336]

Fondest memory of Pelipper? May in Emerald, somehow getting 5 protects in a row

[@nathanjones8177]

Oof

[@BronzeMantis]

My fondest memory in Pelipper was in Emerald too. Protect shut down Norman's Slaking.

[@infinitethunder6184]

@@reinerbazzi9744 only double or triple? There was a point where the AI got 7 in a row for me. I never want to think about it again

[@sevencool2266]

Then you should be running a disable

[@infinitethunder6184]

@@sevencool2266 I dont run disable on a normal playthrough. I'd rather have things like swords dance

[@DJPrimeAmvs]

Pelipper is the embodiment of "be careful who you make fun of in grade school"

[@aggrondsdude3402]

DJ Prime omg I never thought about that

[@tylercasea]

That's Gyarados

[@DJPrimeAmvs]

@@nikodemossowski4621 yeah hes the kid that gets bullied then brings his dads gun to school

[@nothingstrange9706]

​@@DJPrimeAmvs he can't take it no more so he brings those big guns XD

[@ShepardCD-wu7fw]

Fr, I used Pelipper even during his trash days. Then I finally create a DOU Rain Team and my friends begain to fear him. Used to be taught as a joke, now he's a clutch pivot that can change the momentum of a match. Let's go Pelipper!!

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

Pelipper: (Gets Drizzle) Swift Swim users: It's free real estate

[@dasaiyantv8483]

I'm assuming you live in your mom's basement are something cause there is no goddamn other way you can be this omnipresent

[@estooo]

DaSaiyanTV he could just be a god

[@leonardofarias8843]

Pelipper is so strong now that its OU tier as of Sun and Moon instead of the bottom PU tier like in X and Y

[@shadowtitanx3962]

You forget Manaphy.

[@matiasrivas1692]

And also rain dish, hurricane, thunder and strong water users... god rain is OP.

[@porygon4023]

Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Politoed The Wise? I thought not. It’s not a story the Sandstorms would tell you. It’s a Rain legend. Darth Politoed was a Drizzler of the Rain, so powerful and so wise he could use the rain to influence Kingdra, Qwilfish and other beasts to swim much faster… He had such a knowledge of the rain that he rose to the top of the OU tier. The dream world is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so viable that the only thing he was afraid of was losing his position, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice outclassed him in OU. Ironic. He could support so many teammates, but not himself.

[@madjester9844]

Underrated comment

[@deannemendoza878]

nice great comment

[@darkpaw1522]

Holy Miltank, what an underrated comment!

[@feliper.9557]

OMG!!!! This deserves more likes.

[@BossCampers1656]

Every water type: is it possible to learn this power

[@NightmareZerogbs]

Back when he got Drizzle, there was a meme list called "OU, The Meta" where Pelipper was listed as "Mega Politoed" and I laughed my ass off at that.

[@peet-janissen5838]

Yea thats pretty good

[@peet-janissen5838]

@@Oliver-uz1fs same

[@papershadow]

Those lists are always great. Other good entries I saw for Pelipper included "Gen 5 was fun, let's do it again" and "Weather War... has changed"

[@goobrrrr]

TL:DR gen 3 - Trash gen 4 - Trash gen 5 - Trash gen 6 - Trash gen 7 - gets drizzle

[@joshuaa3410]

9:30 You forgot that pelipper got 10 more points in Sp atk in gen 7.

[@kefkapalazzo1]

Unknown User lol read my mind

[@alexcasi1151]

I know it's really nitpicky, but they often forget the boost in stats that some Pokémon got in Gen 6/7

[@Harry777]

@@alexcasi1151 It's not nitpicky at all, his job is to get all this stuff right; nothing should skip under the radar.

[@thesucker9632]

@@Harry777 not to mention the +10 SpA was pretty important too

[@jukebox1096]

Those 10 sp.a matter alot

[@kanibelazy0585]

Politoad: I am the best rain setter that isnt a legendary Pelipper: Im about to end this pokemon's whole career

[@BlueWolfZero]

Boom! Bam! Bop! Bada Bop! Boomp! Pow! OOOOOOHHHHHH!!!!!!

[@dragonkaiser4ever]

Just go

[@Marcusjnmc]

Perish songs intensify ~ , at least in doubles toad has a great niche in unique rain/perish hybrid teams, & those having some notable VGC'18 placements

[@user-os6gb9bq5v]

Pelliper shockwave

[@flygawnebardoflight]

"You just have to hope that Game Freak thinks you deserve a buff." *Cries in Flygon*

[@whydoiexist2180]

The profile say it all

[@microwave8931]

Gen 9: Flygon has 200 in each stat

[@flygawnebardoflight]

The most realistic buff for Flygon is giving it a new Hidden Ability such as a Sandstorm ability or Tinted Lens. Flygon's viability was directly tied to its levitate ability to soar over Spikes, which are obsolete in all metagames Flygon is in right now, and Flygon doesn't have a set Hidden Ability yet. A buff to speed to allow Flygon to run Adamant nature would be practical too.

[@microwave8931]

@@flygawnebardoflight what's weird is that flygon can start sandstorms, but doesn't have the sandstorm ability

[@seenl6eight258]

@@flygawnebardoflight The only real buff that Flygon REALLY needs is to have almost Garchomp stats. As in: Flygon has 105 Attack, same defenses, 100 Special Attack for versatility for Fire Blast, Draco Meteor, etc., is faster 105 speed, and could have Tinted Lens or Sand Stream has a hidden ability. That’s what I’d do, anyway. Flygon is still mediocre, especially since Garchomp returned. It would essentially be a slightly faster and more special attacking version of Garchomp, though still weaker.

[@thomaslecomte1570]

Gen 3-6: I call it « belongs in he trash » Gen7: more like bold and brash!

[@christiancinnabars1402]

And Tauros is basically the exact opposite. Gen 1 vs Gen 2-7: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaWxpJhuhM-Kf6c

[@casualcrusader1547]

peliper: *useless in gen 6* arceus looking at gen 7: lol i wonder what would happen if we gave peliper drizzle

[@jacobwhelan45]

And 10 extra special attack

[@zwarriorkrillin6400]

Clearly this means Arceus is a Greek god His governing policy boils down to asking "You know what would be REALLY fucking funny?"

[@OminousSoul]

@@zwarriorkrillin6400 I thought Greek Gods Governing Policy revolved around lots of sex, ESPECIALLY Zeus.

[@user-pp6pr5fg8w]

@@OminousSoul Greek gods are a satire of the human imperfects, a way of self-criticism in the society

[@demi-femme4821]

FSG viewers: **Skip over Giratina in favour of a Mythical, a low-tier Legendary, and a rain-summoning pelican** Giratina: **Angry snake noises**

[@Slimeonian]

Nich White Giratina’s video is getting made but they had to delay it because of its 2 forms

[@MapleMilk]

*Angry-literallythesatanofpokemon-noises*

[@wertyuser798]

Also, its a centipede

[@reality2771]

I thought next would be Regice lol.

[@LordTyph]

Other Trios: WElcome to the club.

[@GWFanSoftcoreBrony]

Pelipper gaining +10 to its base Special Attack in Gen 7 was nice too.

[@sungjinkim6393]

I remember all the old players coming back in gen7 be like “wtf why is pelliper in OU???”

[@ShinyTillDawn]

and all the damn cutscenes

[@zacharymohammadi]

That was what I wanted to know

[@chloemikaeel604]

It made it rain

[@chloemikaeel604]

It made it rain

[@MrSolomonGaming]

Imagine if it got Drizzle in Gen 5. This would've been an entirely different video.

[@catandfishfc]

Rain would be even more broken than it was lol

[@luizfelipevbf5567]

@@catandfishfc the Rain setter can now 2HKO Ferrothorn in Rain, is not weak to grass but it's weak to rock. The war between him and Tyranitar would be really cool.

[@amanwearingsuspenders7390]

@@luizfelipevbf5567 I often run into Pelliper in gen 7 and I have a t-tar and yes the weather wars between these two get really intense.

[@CaptainJLinebeck]

Considering Drizzle was banned in BDSP OU purely because of Pelliper, yeah

[@sharkronical]

Imagine Torkoal for the sun setter

[@thatdankguy5140]

No one: Pelipper: uses protect 3 times in a row

[@krookking2237]

Protect and Supersonic

[@FalcnPWNCH]

Literally ONLY reason I remember the existence of Pelipper: Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald and their wild and NPC's Pelipper doing *LITERALLY NOTHING BUT SPAMMING PROTECT SUCCESSFULLY AND WASTING MY TIME AND MAKING ME WANNA PULL MY HAIR OUT*

[@aroobism]

Yeah

[@Trunko2000]

I primarily remember Pelliper for that Marilland video where a Pelliper he was trying to catch kept breaking free, even at low hp

[@HardGuess]

3 times? Nah fam 8. Take it or leave it.

[@EdmacZ]

Another Pokémon that became good overnight because of the unique concept of just making it better.

[@animeking1357]

Too bad Gamefreak didn't do that more often. There's quite a number of Pokemon I'd love to see get some improvement.

[@thetrashtrain3774]

animeking1357 there’s been quite a bit of pokemon that got stat buffs in gen 7 so they’re getting there

[@animeking1357]

@@thetrashtrain3774 Hopefully it can continue if Sword and Shield isn't a disaster.

[@HunterHerne]

Well, the idea is for competitive balance. It is a lot easier to balance a smaller pool, especially if certain metagame shaping disasters aren't around

[@christiancinnabars1402]

animeking1357 If SnS doesn’t change the stats of basically every mon prior to Gen 5, then it’s a wrap for them. Even the mons that aren’t in the Galar dex. -Seriously, Gamefreak, you are altering numbers based on a tried and tested meta. How hard can it be? -*-I-*- have made romhacks that do that, and I’m just one guy.-

[@moonjelly5]

“Outclassed by every other water Pokémon” Did False Swipe Gaming forger that Luvdisc existed?

[@christinefarrell6438]

I mean. I forget Luvdisc exists until some random Swimmer sends one out.

[@dnielzcx5490]

isnt lumineon, or goldeen (aside from karp ofc) more useless than this bird?

[@leonarddillon256]

Karp! Karp! Magikarp! Magikarp!

[@joanaguayoplanell4912]

I mean, who wouldn't?

[@moxeiloxei8365]

He meant water types within the OU tier

[@zedflores2945]

drizzle pelipper: *exists* ou tier: allow us to introduce ourselves

[@nevergonnafindme5778]

Reverse it and you got a gold tier meme

[@smugsneasel]

Gen 3-6: Pelipper is this nice doofy bird that helps you deliver mail if you need it Gen 7: Pelipper is the #2 cause of flooding in Pokemon

[@Sleeper800]

It's funny how Pelipper and Mega Swampert share the water typing but don't actually share any weaknesses.

[@autobotstarscream765]

That's the power of Rain teams: they can actually be diverse in their type weaknesses despite being almost mono-Water.

[@lsrrr3857]

A reason why they made Freeze Dry

[@Sleeper800]

@@lsrrr3857 Too bad almost everything that gets Freeze Dry is unviable in OU besides like Mamoswine, who itself is weak to Water.

[@autobotstarscream765]

@@lsrrr3857 The basic concept of Freeze-Dry is something I'd like to see done more, like say an Electric-type attack that's super-effective against Grass or a Fire-type attack that's super-effective against Water.

[@justarandommimikyu8474]

Cosmic what about alolan-ninetails?

[@dinamush1342]

Pelipper is just like Wally, in the older games you forgot about him but now he's a threat

[@unknownaccount1729]

Pelipper in gen 6: hot trash Arceus before gen 7: *alright men, we got a crisis*

[@megasean3000]

Pelipper is a bit of an underdog story. The poor guy was trapped in PU, unable to rise above legitimate Pokemon like Gyarados or Mantine while getting steamrolled by everyone else. But in Gen 7, when all hope seemed lost, he finally got Drizzle, which made him a staple in rain teams. He rose from the bottom of the bottom to the top of the OU metagame. How on Earth does that even happen? I can only hope other PU, NU and RU Pokemon are delivered from the wrung and join Pelipper in OU paradise.

[@Zorua3]

Dread it... run from it... Drizzle still arrives. And now... it's here. Or should I say... Pelipper is.

[@jjtheenton]

>opposing team doesn't ko pelipper the first time it's out >pelipper switches back in to reset rain Pelipper: "You could not live with the weight of your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me..."

[@jaschabull2365]

This B. C. dweller knows that feel. Le sigh.

[@Robin280497]

I love how when Abilities were introduced in Gen 3, the Rain and Sun triggers were limited to the Box Legendaries of that Gen, and now those abilities are given to 2 regular Pokémon from the same Gen. Not even being a Hidden Ability or Mega Ability. lmao

[@Drakorre]

When a Pokémon Is weak It needs a *legendary* boost

[@JB-bc2ry]

@@Drakorre Too bad Torkoal didn't rise to OU like Pelipper. Sun < Rain

[@AverageHandle_]

@@JB-bc2ry UU ain’t bad

[@hydrawarrior6839]

@@JB-bc2ry Now it did thnx to past paradox pokemons

[@alexandradordzhieva3835]

Pelipper: No Drizzle 3-6; PU/NU/UU Yes Drizzle 7; OU Pelipper: Hi, can I come? Every Water Type: NO (Pelipper gets Drizzle) Every Water Type: Do you remember us?

[@rosencvetanov6129]

Pelipper: Square up thots!

[@bennozin7845]

See. Never stop chasing your dreams! If Pelipper can make something of it's self, so can you!

[@pengu108]

I need to get up from this dream

[@EricSam97]

Take care! It’s farewell, but only for now. Until the day I can deliver mail to you again… I’ll always be waiting. -The wandering postal carrier, Pelipper-

[@dougloremaster7413]

+Eric Sam You bastard. The feels. Thank you.

[@pineapplez2339]

Puzzle dungeon?

[@EricSam97]

@@pineapplez2339 Mystery dungeon: Red and blue rescue team

[@xflame7556]

Guess WHAT

[@seraphimzero6612]

I’m not crying, I just also have drizzle.

[@thenerdbeast7375]

Talk about a comeback, Pelipper is a perfect example of just one thing added to a Pokemon's tool kit to totally turn it around.

[@TheRealHelvetica]

When I found out hurricane is 100% accurate in the rain I realized this derpy looking bird took away Mega-Pidgeot's gimmick without even needing to waste a mega slot on it.

[@shadowtitanx3962]

In addition of outclassing Politoed in EVERY way.

[@N12015]

@@shadowtitanx3962 In singles, because in doubles Politoed still is useful with helping hand and better bulk.

[@user-os6gb9bq5v]

@@N12015 pelipper has shockwave

[@USSFFRU]

@@user-os6gb9bq5v how does that help lol

[@mr.krustykrust]

Bruh he sucked until he got Drizzle. Literally got carried by the rain

[@notpaul5622]

Like why was he chosen? I hoped registeel or regice would've been in the video

[@buttpiratesbuttpirate5913]

@@notpaul5622 the KZbin comment community are gross meme lords

[@guildmasterri5995]

@@notpaul5622 because trio Pokémon always gets interrupted in some way

[@leonardofarias8843]

All the way to OU!

[@AuraStrikeAce]

Why did they give Pelipper of all Pokémon Drizzle anyway? It was already bad enough that I had to deal with seeing Politoed everywhere with Drizzle, now two ugly Water types have it.

[@plushyloverowo6730]

Pelipper was a funny one ORAS was my first pokemon game I found a shiny wingull Then later on i found a shiny pelipper, dunno why

[@MandalorOrdo]

You lucky son........

[@arkaua]

How is ORAS your first Pokémon game? How old are you?

[@plushyloverowo6730]

@@arkaua i turned 14 a month ago

[@MandalorOrdo]

@@plushyloverowo6730 😶 I feel so old now. (27)

[@arkaua]

@@MandalorOrdo Same, man. Haha. It's weird seeing people this young starting with the new games... Even if I'm just 20 I feel old knowing my first game was either Crystal or Ruby (can't remember).

[@Eltipoquevisteayer]

Pelipper and Politoed is basically how Charizard Y outclassed Ninetales in Sun.

[@Manivilization]

torkoal >>

[@Eltipoquevisteayer]

@@Manivilization torkoal was just another nail in the coffin, so much that Ninetales switched climates for a chance. lmao

[@Thund3rDrag0n12]

Eltipoquevisteayer Torkoal is such a lowkey boss sun setter I love it lol

[@Manivilization]

@@Thund3rDrag0n12 would rather use torkoal and mega charizard X/camerupt/houndoom than megazard Y

[@sephikong8323]

@@Eltipoquevisteayer Problem is, unlike Ninetales, Torkoal brings real utility to the team : It can be a true wall, it can set the rocks, spin, spread status (example burn either directly with will o wisp or through lava plume, it can use Yawn to gain either a switch advantage or put a Pokémon to sleep) and it can be pretty threatening offensively (on both sides might I add) with a pretty decent stats in both offense and very good offensive options (Eruption, Lava Plume, Fire Blast, Earthquake, Gyro Ball, Explosion) and it has also some more niche moves to use like clear smog just in case you need it and want to surprise your opponent. So it's definitely better than Ninetales in every way and it ensure that Ninetales will never have a spot in the *sun* ever again. Torkoal's main downside is that sun isn't a very viable weather right now but if we were to gain good sun abusers in gen 8 it could very well become the new pelipper and maybe even be better than it at its role

[@thisisiampie6946]

Pelipper the true main character. Had no plot armor so it trained for 7 gens straight and honed the ability to make it rain to the point of perfection.

[@j.youngblood8086]

Pelipper also got a 10-point buff to special attack in gen 7, going from 85 to 95.

[@itriggerpeople4433]

When I was a dumb dyslexic wee lad, I always called Pelipper "Pelipepper" until a friend corrected me

[@nbr6116]

Actually, that's really cute!

[@jeffreyfiegen1538]

Whoever corrected you was wrong to

[@xdarkangerx7601]

Trust me, you are not alone with that.

[@azelfdaboi5265]

I will now call it pelipepper

[@thatonekidthatnobodytruste5406]

I called it “Pepiller

[@LucasMBoysOurRoy]

Pelipper is a perfect example of how to make a Pokémon viable in competitive. No Dexit required.

[@jeffreyfiegen1538]

*Right?*

[@Dave_Chrome]

AND Pokemon Mystery Dungeon 1. It delivered mail there too... and was in the intro!

[@Resener1]

No one cared who he was until he put on the drizzle

[@Arkantos1900]

If I take the drizzle will you die?

[@MapleMilk]

Pelipper is pretty much the Pokemon that exists so they could draw birds in the Pokemon movies near the ocean to make it seem more real For that, I thank Pelipper

[@ZeroZeke-]

Omg, after 10 months I finally get to see my boy pelipper!! Wingull was my first wild pokemon I caught. I kept it on my team until I got Rayquaza to fly me around in Pokemon Sapphire.

[@Frog101_Real]

Even after I got rayquaza in oras, I still kept him because he was just too attached to the team.

[@randomfun3961]

Pelipper is in my opinion the prime example of how one change can take a bad Pokemon and make it absolutely stellar.

[@newsupermariobros2862]

Pelipper In gen 3-6:Stupid fat bulky toilet bird PelipperIn Gen 7:God of the rain Pretty nice change if you ask me

[@DSmittie]

Pelipper has a special place in my heart that clogs my blood and kills me.....mainly because of.....well....everything about it, seriously, who hasn’t encountered a Wingull or Pelipper everywhere?

[@thatonekidthatnobodytruste5406]

Did you ever have them spam protect 5 times in a row successfully

[@sahilagarwal1841]

6:30 top 10 anime comebacks

[@xxunoriginal_edgy_namexx859]

True

[@farfetchdthegamer3810]

In Scarlet and Violet, he is currently the ONLY mon that can automatically set rain . Even more busted than before.

[@bruhmment6173]

I loved this silly mon from its release and I'm so happy it actually became so good, same with porygon z getting z conversion, and now slaking getting doubles support in galarian weezing, I'm so happy pokemon is finding ways to make old and outclassed mons usefull in unique ways

[@hasanzuhaib8408]

I know its been 8 months,and you may know about this already,but runerigus's wandering spirit ability is probably more useful for slaking than galarian weezing

[@gb4206]

Jos brecht LOL

[@jayanths1221]

I never really liked Pelipper because of it's annoying pre-evolution. Wingull is basically the Zubat of the sea. Can't surf for more than 3 second without running into one which is reason for my misplaced anger towards Pelipper.

[@sperrythegodyounger7250]

Wingull is the Zubat of the sea alongside Tentacool.

[@bitchd7839]

Tentacool is the Zubat of the seas. Tentacools infested the seas similar to how Zubat infested every cave from gens 1-4. Wingull was only common in gen 3.

[@AuraStrikeAce]

Pretty much this, but I also really don't like Pelipper's design

[@shadowtitanx3962]

Uh... Nah. Tentacool is WAY more common than Wingull by a long shot.

[@N12015]

@@sperrythegodyounger7250 Depends on the region. In Unova is Basculin (I'm starting to hate that fish), in Kanto, Jotho and Sinnoh was Tentacool, in Hoenn was Wingull, in Alola is Tentacool and Finneon, and in Kalos and Galar there's almost no water routes outside some lakes.

[@phil2160]

Shootout to that shiny Wingull that I randomly found during my Sun playthrough back in 2016 way before I completed the Regional Dex and obtained the Shiny Charm. And when I evolved it, I was glad he had Drizzle as an ability.

[@unrealisticfezant8344]

*outclassed by all water pokemon?* luvdisc

[@tomlom69]

One of my favorite mons of all time, especially after it got drizzle. It went from zero to hero in one adjustment. I also just love its design. I'm in the Navy, and I love the seabirds.

[@IosLocarth]

He delivered mail in PMD 1. In 2 he ran an island that you used to rescue other players who got KOd in dungeons

[@samnottheotherone4363]

Thank you, I've been waiting to see his rise to greatness.

[@D1ab0lical]

"Fans of Pokemon Mystery Dungeon 2" Man you guys really do write off the Rescue Team games. They had the Pelliper Post office for god sake.

[@spinceiling7442]

Kyle Burden lol I thought this too

[@jeffreyfiegen1538]

Your thinking of the third mystery dungeon game, because the explorers games had the ppo too

[@D1ab0lical]

@@jeffreyfiegen1538 Not the full building though, the one on the edge of the cliff. That was only in the Rescue Team games.

[@jeffreyfiegen1538]

@@D1ab0lical fair point

[@PinkGoldAbby]

Obligatory "how dare you not mention this obscure game that appeals to me" comment:

[@goblinivan2657]

the roselia at 3:08 is just...the best...thank you whoever made that

[@Hnui03]

"You just have to be cool enough to *hope* Gamefreak gives you a buff* Aeigislash: *Cries in -10 to both Defenses*

[@rmnhn]

Jason Sharpless What about Blade Forme Attack stats?

[@Hnui03]

@@rmnhn It's higher stats got -10 in both. So Aegislash still has 50 attack stats in Shield and 50 in Defense stats in Sword, but it's offenses and defenses are reduced by 10 in each other stat

[@TheWispGuy]

When the world keeps raining on your parade... You go and rain back. That sounded better in my head.

[@jwanie366]

Once Pelipper got Drizzle, there was no stopping it in VGC 17

[@PaulKDang]

Nice work Lemon! Great video

[@FurigoUltimar]

Fun fact! You said Pelipper roughly 46 times! Neat! What a wild ride for Pelipper with the addition of one ability, I never really gave him the time of day unfortunately, but that is very uplifting for this pokemon.

[@heidi7905]

The meta game HATES him! Learn how he went to PU from OU with this one simple trick.

[@HardGuess]

PU*

[@PinkGoldAbby]

You mean PU to OU?

[@PeterGriffin11]

I use to have A Pelipper that I remember always keeping in my party alongside my Swampert in Pokémon Ruby. Fun Fact: Pelipper can use Shock Wave.

[@simian4752]

Best video so far keep up great work

[@dominikheiderer9161]

Nice video!

[@jodaniel69]

Can you do an update video' on all the pokemon that didn't get a gen 7 segment?

[@liviniarose5]

Pelipper was amazing on my Core 6 team in Moon and was my staple Water/Flying type (since I go for dual-type trans who cover all types), I didn't even realize he got buffed until this video. Really interesting, and I loved my Winnie the (former) Wingull!

[@darianclark3980]

Since we're prob not going to have Parasect or Ninjask and prob still waiting on Giratina; Let's Get Primeape As Patreon Next Plz!!

[@reavershank8985]

Giratina has multiple forms so i dont think they will cover it soon

[@darianclark3980]

@@reavershank8985 That is true. But until then, would like to see Primeape or other bug Pokemon.

[@Swag_K1RBY]

I just want electrode to be covered

[@ManyTanks1]

I remember hating the heck out of pelipper in gen 3 cause every wild one would start the battle with protect 😡

[@Teyeranitar]

How good was KABUTOPS actually? Gen 1 fossils got skipped after Aerodactyl.

[@ArmageddonAngel]

You are an emissary of the dome fossil. Death to the enemies of Bird Jesus.

[@superchrissybros.6236]

Vote in the community tab.

[@guildmasterri5995]

Next week is patron week and people don't comment about this here anymore

[@jeffreyfiegen1538]

@@ArmageddonAngel you worship a false prophet, *Praise be to our Lord Arceus*

[@ahipsterkiller516]

It was a surprise when I first learned that Peliper was getting Drizzle was just just another weird move by GameFreak. But man, it was simply awesome to see him finally getting some attention and being useful. #WeAllLOVERain

[@rider4523]

Yeah.... pelipper just shows how weather abilities can make boost the viability of a mon. Alolan Ninetails wouldn´t be half as good without the snow warning + aurora vail + access to Blizzard. I´d love to see more things getting access to those abilities as well as their respective abusers. I mean Rain is the only dominant weather in OU (bc Pelipper, Mega Swamp, Ferro, Torn, Koko, Kingdra, Manaphy etc can use it very well). Sun usually relies on Torkoal and Zard Y (but honestly noone really uses Zard Y right now all that much) and in some lower tiers on Ninetales. Sun abusers in OU would be Blaceph, Heatran, Victini, Volc (those all from the fire boost / water weakness). The only mons that really benefit from sun are from lower tiers and have either clorophyll or solar power like Venusaur and Mega Houndoom. And the power levels of those are far too low the be strong outside of their respective weather. 100 base sptack isn´t that impressive without life orb and one growth. And sun is probably the 2nd most viable weather in ou. Going to sand: T-Tar + Excadrill. Nothing else worth mentioning in OU. Hail? Alolan Ninetales Vail. Weather besides rain limited to the lower tiers and thanks to primals completly locked out of ubers.

[@MrChillaxin2010]

How good was Pelipper actually? It's exactly as you think it is.

[@inflatablemattress2]

Perfect timing I just started using a pelipper

[@alexkoppers7882]

9:30 Pelippers Sp.attack should be 95 because he got a boost in gen 7.

[@harperxo9]

3:08 The way that Roselia did a sassy stroll was 😂

[@MrEzman99]

Unquestionably the most buffed Pokémon in the transition to Generation 7. While another bird, Talonflame, is easily the most nerfed.

[@fixjustin2699]

Ikr. Why nerfed talonflame while you have broken mons like primal groudon, mega ray and xerneas.

[@MrEzman99]

@@fixjustin2699 EXACTLY THOSE 3 WERE WAY MORE OP

[@V-Jes]

@@fixjustin2699 Because legendaries are SUPPOSE to be broken while they are banned anyways from most competitive play so it doesn't matter while talonflame itself was never good but just it's op Gale wings hidden ability.

[@fixjustin2699]

@@V-Jes isnt that the point? Making weak pokemon viable with good abilities. Look at pelipper. From PU to OU in just 1 gen Nah not all legendaries are broken. Yeah sure, they are banned in most competitions, thats why we are only seing the same mons in vgc😐

[@V-Jes]

@@fixjustin2699 There's a difference between a pokemon that becomes better with a good ability like greninja, scizor, garchomp, pelipper etc etc and just having a broken ability that solely makes the pokemon good like gen 6 talonflame, mega mawile, dugtrio, mimikyu etc etc while most legendaries are literally banned because they are suppose to be too powerful or because they are event only pokemon with there only being 38 (+battle bond greninja) who are banned from VGC out of 807 pokemon.

[@jamajoose]

I freaking hate that damn toilet bird. I used a master ball on it in Ruby on accident.

[@MandalorOrdo]

😶

[@dasdebo9700]

F

[@MrPosbi]

F

[@imagorll]

F

[@jakesimpson3373]

Don’t hate the bird hate the moron who threw the master ball

[@2022irons]

“That’s not a duck, it’s a pelican!” - Finding Nemo

[@leandrocesar5207]

YES!!! My favorite Pokémon!!!! Also do Parasect next

[@_goodmeasure]

i was so happy for pelipper when sun/moon came out. For vgc, sometimes i would like to lead with lightning rod togedemaru and pelipper.

[@elimDBZ]

Pelipper was my first flying pokemon in my first playthrough of pokemon ruby and it was in my main team.

[@ZeroZeke-]

He was also my first flying type. Kept him until I got rayquaza. My first pokemon HOF in sapphire had 3 water types.

[@rontheauraknight9606]

This episode should be called “Zero to Hero” considering his rise due to getting drizzle

[@Steve_A93]

I love Pelipper, always have :) used it so much in Ruby & Sapphire, I loved to see it get buffed in Gen VII

[@demdelthepoet8885]

Ahhh yes, good ol' Pelipper 😁 one of my favorites and I've used it in nearly all my R/S/E playthroughs

[@misterlinux9290]

commenters dont understand how this thing is OU

[@CloaksCosplays]

Misterlinux back to dzeff with you!

[@luciusirving5926]

Story of Pelipper's life. Proof that Pokémon don't need to be wallbreakers with legendary-tier offensive stats to be viable.

[@borby4584]

This is one of the best comeback stories of all time

[@jjmississippi8125]

I’m probably the only person in the world who’s 1st Pokémon to get to Level 100 was Pelipper

[@krookking2237]

So, Someone explain why Pelliper can learn Shock Wave?

[@guillermomedel1575]

Wow, I'm going to bait so many Gyarados switch ins today

[@SlimeyCube26]

It has an elekid in its mouth

[@Igor-gw4io]

Krook King It has a magnemite inside it's mouth.

[@ShinyTillDawn]

zap Cannon, too i think

[@sayvionwashington1939]

Yes.

[@dylanbrunell1146]

(Speaking of Pokemon made good with new abilities) How GOOD was Torkoal ACTUALLY?

[@vince.508]

worth no salt you’re not supposed to vote here. Begone

[@N12015]

Sadly, Torkoal still doesn't have any recovery, so he sucks.

[@bulborb8756]

@@N12015 and neither does Gigalith & Vanilluxe

[@N12015]

@@bulborb8756 And they're pretty mediocre as well. The only good climate setters are Hippowdon with Tyranitar (sand), Pelipper (rain), Charizard-Y (sun) and "A-Ninetales" (only because of Aurora Veil. Ice type is bad in general)

[@moarDylan]

This was the best feel-good story on KZbin, 2019.

[@JohnzoGaming]

Man! I loved Wingull since its reveal and Pelipper by extension. It's one of the Pokemon that I really want to work and I was so happy to hear about Drizzle though I haven't played online this gen in the end. But even if I were to start playing online, I feel like now Pelipper is too main stream and it's just too overused that I don't want to anymore lol

[@AndrewCheshire]

You completely forgot that in Gen 7 Pelipper got a Base 10 buff in Special Attack, and listed it's old Stats on screen. Oops.

[@fabe1089]

Did anyone else notice how many Golduck were used on those VGC teams?

[@DJPrimeAmvs]

It was the only option at the time besides relicanth and no one would touch that one with bulu and kartana around

[@Drowmerc]

Way to make a come back Pelipper!

[@nintygc]

Finally, the Pokemon I have been asking for just because of how it shot up