How Reliable is the Ford 3.5 EcoBoost? | 3 Common Problems

[@8020Media]

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[@Trple777]

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[@8020Media]

Triple Seven - We appreciate the feedback! I'm well versed in post production and unfortunately it was just the mic quality. Since then, we've invested quite a bit in production, so it won't be an issue moving forward.

[@wyomingcowboy501]

If you follow Ford's recommended oil change intervals (100% on oil reset) you will go past the life of the oil by gong over 10,000 miles. I am original owner of a 2013 f150 eco and I set my oil reset to 50% or 60% depending on my driving conditions. Most, if not all, of the "common issues" are a result of the above issue. Preventive Maintenance (not run to fail philosophy) is a must with most engines...especially on the new ones with the tight tolerances. "Money where my mouth is," I have 258,454 miles on mine. Only engine related issues have been spark plugs, coil paks, and a water pump leak at 179,000 mles. Just don't drive your vehicle, take care of it and it will take care of you!! UPDATE: I just replaced both turbos due to o-ring wear on the coolant and oil lines and also the vacuum pump at ~ 262,000. When I took it in to Cavender Ford in OKC, the shop forman (John) got in and then immediately got out, walked around the entire vehicle and asked, "262,000 miles...I can't believe it. Is that the correct milage"? He then took it for a 30-minute test and got 21 mpg. The engine itself is still performing well.

[@8020Media]

Thanks for the feedback! We couldn't agree more and always recommend changing every 5,000 miles regardless of the recommended change interval.

[@wyomingcowboy501]

@@8020Media 50% is around 4,800, 60% is about 5,900...at least on my make and model

[@richards1191]

I just change it every 5000 regardless unless I tow alot

[@SteveBassen]

Extended oil change intervals by the major manufacturers are the cause of the bulk of big reliability issues, especially anything cam phaser/tensioner or cylinder wall related.

[@lakeeriebrawler1764]

I also own a 2013. Original owner. Have changed oil every 5k miles religiously. Changed plugs at 60k. 0 issues.

[@catmando4914]

I have a 2013 F-150 3.5L Ecoboost. 85,000 miles, runs great, regular maintenance, and oil change with full synthetic oil. Problems, replaced battery, and fix air-conditioning, buttons on steering wheel, and brakes (I tow a trailer in the mountains, hard on brakes). I've only gone as high as 8,000 ft, but truck runs just like at sea level, no lose of power. Great towing vehicle. My trailer loaded at approx. 7,000 lbs.

[@8020Media]

Cat - Thanks for sharing your experience! Sounds like you've got a good one.

[@ADVF800GS]

I have the 2011 F150 Lariat 4x4 with the 3.5, 311,000 miles all original, the only upgrades I’ve done is K&N drop in air filter and 3” exhaust and I tow a lot and frequently. Best truck ever!!!!

[@8020Media]

BigBoats - Love hearing this! Thanks for sharing your first-hand experience.

[@stephenbloom2545]

I have a 2011 f150 3.5 ecoboost with 400,000 miles on it and a good synthetic oil and filter changed at the right time will give you many worry free miles with this engine. The drive train is all original even the turbos. I’ve really enjoyed owning this pickup, it’ll do everything I need it to do and it’s fun to drive.

[@8020Media]

Stephen - Thanks for adding this valuable insight! This is very impressive and will help future viewers.

[@SirTrinculo]

good to know i am at 231k on my 2011

[@8020Media]

Bandit - You've got plenty more miles in it!

[@jaimemartinez8992]

Amazing

[@moose2934]

How often do you flush your transmission? I bought mine used and am afraid of touching my 6 speed

[@chada472]

I have had 4, 3.5 eco trucks and not one issue with any of them. I now have the powerboost and love it.

[@8020Media]

Chad - This is awesome. Love hearing good things about 3.5s. We know the potential of them!

[@Steve-yr5vi]

I have this engine and could not be happier, I was fine with either the 5.0 or 3.5 I bought the truck that had the components I wanted. However, honestly I am completely in the turbo 6 engine club now. I have numerous friends with the 3.5 one with the 2013, not one of us has had issues, every one of us says the same "love it". If you drive it with sense it does everything it is supposed to do. There is SO much power on tap with this engine it's scary, yet it is easy to drive, I consistently average better than 20 mpg in mixed driving. I cross the continental divide often, while my engine is loafing along maintaining 75 in 7th. I'll hear the motor in Mercedes, BMW, RAM, Chevy screaming trying to keep up but finally relent likely out of fear they'll blow their engine. And seriously my truck will never break 2,000 rpm. My own opinion that this engine has so many that hate it is a testament to its capability. Now that both RAM and Toyota are ditching their push rod 8's and replacing or have replaced them with turbo 6's is proof a turbo 6 is the perfect engine for someone that actually needs a truck.

[@8020Media]

Amen. The 5.0 V8 is a really solid engine as well but there is a reason GM and Dodge are also in the process of building turbo inline-6 engines for their half ton trucks in favor of their large 6L+ V8 engines.

[@patrickjoy9551]

@@8020Media Yep its called EPA

[@CJColvin]

Is it just me or do you seem like an EPA lover as well as a muscle car hater? Also what job do you have and how much money do you make to afford that EcoBoost F150?

[@CJColvin]

Also if the EcoBoost is so good then howcome Ford used the 6.8L and 7.3L Godzilla V8s in the Super Duty as base gas engines and not the 3.5L EcoBoost V6?

[@CWB1863]

First truck I've owned(new) is the 2014 3.5L. I have 93k and she's running great. It did have a slight rattle(from what i hear is normal in Fords) up until the 75k mark. I decided to get a tune up and not wait until a 100k(which i thought was excessive). So I changed the plugs, coolant, transmission fluid etc. I also looked into changing over to full synthetic(Pennzoil UP) oil, instead of the synthetic blend that's been used. What a difference it made! No more knocking, better fuel economy (19.5 mpg up from 17.2) and it rides so much smoother in cold and hot temps. Next tune up, around the 135k.Oh and since it's over 75k, i'm gonna try the Valvoline HM max life oil next and see how she runs. Hear great stuff about that oil. After a year, I'll probably switch oil change intervals between the Valvoline and Pennzoil. Overall, i'm very impressed with my truck even though it's not really broken in yet. I've learned a lot being a first time truck owner and preventative maintenance is a must for sure.

[@8020Media]

CWB - Thanks for sharing your experience! This will certainly help future viewers.

[@bret9741]

We’ve seen a lot of Ecoboosts well over 250,000 with no problems. A big improvement over the 5.4. I have owned several. Love the power. My favorite though is out GM 5.3L V-8. They just run forever but, not as fun to drive or to pull a heavy load with. If you buy new, take care of your vehicle, 90 times out of 100 you’ll drive trouble free to at least 150,000 miles no matter what manufacturer it is.

[@8020Media]

Bret - Thanks for the feedback! We completely agree with your points on the EB's. Out of curiosity, what does the 5.3 V8 have over the 3.5 EB that you like more? This helps us out!

[@bret9741]

@@8020Media we like the 5.3 for it’s sporty smooth performance. It’s not the best at anything but it’s very good at everything. In our Tahoes, it constantly delivers 20 mpg at 65 and 18 mpg at 70+. That included 6 passengers and luggage. The engines are absolutely trouble free. We have never had a 5.3 fail under 360,000. The one exception was a brand new Tahoe in 2002. The water pump failed at about 1000 miles. But, it didn’t trash the engine. That Tahoe is still running with a little over 400,000. It’s lifters knock a bit at idle… it has gone through 2 transmissions. A church we is to go to down near Louisville KY had a 2000 Suburban with 500,000+ on the engine and original transmission. The seat cushions and leather looked like…. well, 500,000 miles and all the abuse you’d expect from kids on road trips to summer camp and trips Al around Kentucky to youth events. I hate to say this, I love my ford pickups. But they have not been as trouble free as our GM products. That wasn’t the case in the 70’s or 80’s, I’ve been driving a long time. As a matter of fact. My dad had a 1946-7. +\- ford 1.25 ton truck we used until the 1990’s. It has a flat head v8. We had a large cattle ranch in the mountains of NM. We had one of about every pickup made including international harvester pickups and scouts. Back in those days, Ford’s had better longevity of power train and GM had better bodies. In spite of the longevity, I much preferred the fisher GM body over the Ford. Good news for all of us today…. There isn’t such thing as a bad pickup truck. They are all amazing. I’m sure there are lemons occasionally, and that’s terrible for the buyer living through the process of getting that law applied. But in general, just take care of what ever you buy and it will last a long long time :)

[@8020Media]

Bret - Thanks for the extensive feedback. We have a 5.3 2002 Suburban that is going on 225,000+ miles and has been very reliable. Sounds like you have some cool history with all sorts of trucks. Thanks for sharing!

[@bret9741]

@@8020Media welcome. Thanks for the video. My grandparents were born in 1889 / grandpa and 1892 / grandma. Grandpa drive what ever he could get the best price on and he never sold a pickup off if it was good. It’s funny, the putting an old horse out to pasture is a “kindness”to die at home for the horse that had worked so hard and provided companionship. We all kind of felt these old trucks deserved the same. We had old pickups and cars parked out behind the barn. It’s funny. In the 80’s and 90’s every farm and ranch near us had the same out to pasture old vehicles. I’m sure they’ve all been sold off.

[@Trple777]

I have a 2013 3.5l ecoboost and a 2010 Chevy Silverado 4x4 with the 5.3L. I am not a fan of the 5.3L but like others say it does the job. It's nowhere near the Ecoboost power though.

[@robertlwheeler5377]

I have this engine in 2015 Flex. Best engine in a vehicle I have owned for sure. I have 107k miles I just had the cleaner run through to clean the carbon out. And you can feel the power come back to the vehicle that I didn't realize I lost. Having thus engine in the Flex definitely make this a sleeper car for sure especially having it in AWD. Great video, thanks for doing this.

[@8020Media]

R - Thanks for taking the time to share your experience! Also, thanks for the feedback.

[@jason91205]

Have a 2015 3.5 ecoboost that has been pretty reliable. I am at 236k miles of 80% highway driving. I have changed oil only at the computers recommended interval (roughly every 10k miles) with motorcraft synthetic blend 5w-30. I’ve replaced passengers side valve cover for a leak, 3 throttle bodies, and a crankshaft pressure sensor. I have the common rear broken studs (revised manifolds ordered ready to install) on both sides and turbo fitting coolant leaks that I will be addressing soon. All in all not too bad. I’m planning to run it to 4-500k miles. Very important to keep fluids changed in the trucks. Had “rumble strip” vibration twice after fluid had broken down from Highway driving. Once trans flushed shifts like new again. Plan to do trans flush every 60k. Also, keep up with routine plug changes. Great truck!

[@8020Media]

Jason - Thanks for sharing your experience and valuable insight!

[@beachsoap]

I got a 2012 3.5L with 350000km on it . Original engine never touched! I am started to hear some rattle on cold startup. I think the biggest thing with these engines is regular maintenance! I do changes every 6000 K with the cheap conventional oil just keeping the oil clean is more important I believe. I definitely agreed with the sparks Being changed more often I had a mis fire a couple of times just because of the plugs. Overall best truck I've ever own! I was a Chevy guy before this one. Will be getting another 3.5 ecoboost soon, just waiting for the price to come down .lol .

[@8020Media]

Moon - Thanks for adding your valuable experience! Rattling on cold start can be a cam phaser issue, so may want to get that looked into. But from our experience, the 3.5s have been pretty solid! We couldn’t agree more about prices right now..

[@markford7868]

I know 2 guys who have the 3.5. The first tows heavy weekly, 250K only issue a burst brake line. The other guy has 205K on his and has beat the crap out of the truck. He has had maybe 5 issues, nothing big. And both guys maintain them well Like me 5K oil changes keep everything in tip top shape. These are great engines. Do not follow Ford recommendations for oil changes you might regret that.

[@8020Media]

Mark - Thanks for sharing these experiences! Definitely valuable for future viewers. We couldn't agree more about the recommendations..

[@joshwray7230]

What oil do you run ?

[@markford7868]

@@joshwray7230 This is my second turbo. Two things are a must, change your air filter 1X a year, always run full synthetic, especially if you use the truck hard. My first turbo was sold with 140K miles. I was told by other mechanics to follow that routine with the oil and air. No regrets.

[@tydime58]

Damn dude. You gave more information about the 3.5 Echoboost in one video than anything I’ve seen on KZbin!

[@8020Media]

Thanks Ty! We appreciate the feedback and support.

[@mcmuskie2563]

My 2021 3.5 has been awesome, lots of power and tows very well. Have a new one on order!

[@8020Media]

M - Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@BrickMudge]

The 2.7 is overall Fords best engine, hands down for most people. When it comes to towing, that depends on how heavy, how far and how often. More torque and HP than the V8's and faster on the drag strip than the 3.5. In fact, a tuned 2.7 can beat a hellcat. I have over 203k miles on my 2015 FX4 and it still runs like a beast. I've had no warrantly claims or mechanical failures, and no sign of any problems in the near future. Fingers crossed. I LOVE my truck! And my EcoBoost too!

[@8020Media]

Brick - Thanks for your feedback and sharing your experience. We will actually be recording a video in the near future comparing the 2.7 and 3.5 EB's. So make sure you stay tuned!

[@BrickMudge]

@Greg Lie much?

[@8020Media]

Greg - Interesting take here. We've heard and seen plenty of 3.5 EB's last well into the 200,000 mileage range without any engine issues. Sorry your experience was not the same.

[@MB1Billion]

Wow that's Amazing 👍 Why is that? Does the 2.7 Have a Bigger Turbo?

[@BrickMudge]

@@MB1Billion I doubt it. I will say this though. The 2.7L ("Nano") is a whole different engine than the original 3.5L EcoBoosts, which did have a lot turbo issues. There's a lot of unlocked horsepower potential too, aftermarket turbos, etc. But to be honest, I have all the muscle I need with what few mods I've done.

[@crixusthenorman1603]

I have 344000 km on my 2015 3.5 eco boost. I did have to do some work on it. Timing chain, purge valve,cam shaft cracked. Overhauled the 6 spd trans but now it's running like new again and with a 91 octane tune, a nice bump in power and torque. Added a catch can, straight pipe exhaust, high flow cats and a cold air intake. I would recommend this to anyone.

[@8020Media]

Nice! Sounds like a solid build - good to see the block and internals are all holding up nicely.

[@bozartg]

My son works on these in his shop. His biggest take-away is resealing of the turbos at approximately 100K although, I was in his shop the other day and he had a 3.5 in there for this procedure and it had 220K He was very surprised and the first one he's seen with that much mileage.

[@8020Media]

Gerry - Thanks for sharing your experience! This is not only helpful for us, but also for future viewers!

[@02hreblue30]

of course more in the shop, they outsell non turbos by miles. Total BS on RESEALING of turbos. I have had two and the engines are gems. the 10spd tranny is a completely different story

[@guzforce]

@@02hreblue30Hi, Thanks for sharing. What do you mean by re-sealing the turbos? Bearings/oil or something with the blades?

[@CJColvin]

​@@02hreblue30Does it make a Ford a badass car company by creating all of these small turbo engines?

[@kacekace3676]

I just got a 2018 raptor, about a month ago. 51k miles. Went today to have the chatter looked at, it's the cam phasers. The factory warranty is up im March 2023, so next month. They did a warranty fix. They said the parts would take a month to 6 weeks to get in. They did make the service order for today so I'm covered. Other than that just the blind spot monitor is faulty. I believe the extended warranty will fix that. Great truck.. this is my first ford vehicle..

[@8020Media]

Kace - Thanks for sharing your feedback! We love a good Raptor. Hopefully you get much more out of it.

[@Trple777]

Great video! I have a 2013 F-150 with the Ecoboost 3.5L. I bought the truck with high mileage already and it currently has 242K miles. I changed the spark plugs right away after I bought it (wasn't really needed), did a transmission service and changed the filters. The truck does have that "death rattle" common in these engines in cold starts and after sitting for a day or two. This gets better with fresher oil and it's an oil pressure issue on the sprocket and not a plastic guide issue as some people believe. Overall I was impressed with the performance of this engine, it has so much power that the truck feels "light." The amount of torque is ridiculous! You're doing 65mph on 6th gear and go up a hill and the engine will NOT need to downshift but only get like a low hum and go. One issue I've had is the Y coolant heater hose leaking and it seems to be very common. It is not something that will leave you stranded but eventually you'll have to replace it if it starts leaking. I'm plugging a link here if you all don't mind. Thanks! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYaViXWZiN-toKM

[@8020Media]

Triple Seven - Thanks for the input and feedback! We truly think the 3.5s are excellent pieces of machinery. Usually we don't like it when people leave links in their comments, however, since we feel you've provided insightful information we'll allow it. Thanks again!

[@imbrok3n882]

What's the death rattle feel like ks that were the frame feels like it shakes

[@Trple777]

@@imbrok3n882 The "death rattle" of the 3.5L Ecoboost is a rattle at cold start up caused by the oil not reaching the camshafts sprockets fast enough. It is only a fraction of a second in most cases and it doesn't really cause the engine to die or anything although some people do say that it gets worse overtime. In my case when the oil is getting old and near the interval for a change the rattle does get more noticeable but the truck runs great and it has almost 250K miles. A solution to this is to floor the pedal and crank the starter a couple times, which will make the engine turn but not fire up due to the computer detecting the pedal floored, then starting the engine normally. That makes the oil flow up and eliminate the rattle completely before the first start in the morning.

[@d.perkins1588]

The first 3.5L ecoboost engines were introduced in some Lincoln models as early as 2009. The 450hp H.O. Option(for Raptor only) came in 2017. Great video… Ecoboost owner, car enthusiast. I read alot.

[@8020Media]

D - Thanks for the feedback and valuable insight!

[@normandsavard4087]

I have a Lincoln MKS2010 with the power Tran of Taurus SHO AWD 3.5 éco boost 355 HP AND 365 of torch with 165000 kilos no problems I clean the intake valves at 80000 kilos as maintenance I love❤ this car fast and nervous stick to the road

[@mow-it-pros5040]

Oil on my 2013 EcoBoost gets changed every 7,500 miles with castrol edge EP, and motorcraft or fram ultra filter. 165k miles, no issues

[@8020Media]

Mow - Thanks for sharing your experience! Great to hear a 3.5 running well.

[@softailrider4976]

You’re waiting wayyyy too long to replace your oil

[@Trple777]

Exactly how I do it. I let the computer monitor the oil life and it amounts to 7.5K miles interval on average, zero issues and oil is clean.

[@02hreblue30]

better yet use Pennzoil Ultra Platinum, and a Wix XP or Mobil 1 filter. My oil analysis from Blackstone says 8K oil changes easy. Thanks for sharing

[@ericpigg2689]

Thats impressive with Fram.

[@nathanlewis5037]

I own two 3.5 f150's. Bought a 2012 years ago and now has 170,000 miles.. no issues, just oil changes and spark plugs.. still gets up and goes.. which made me buy another one... A 2018 3.5 but not a fan of the 10 speed in the newer one but love the power.

[@8020Media]

Nathan - We love to hear this. We think the 3.5 is an excellent engine if maintained properly!

[@02hreblue30]

10 speed helps everything except reliability. suspect

[@garyc5651]

The newer 10 speeds are much nicer than when they first came out. Calibration, probably.

[@isimo8364]

You forgot about the Notorious Cam Phaser issues on 1st & 2nd Generation. Adding a Catch Can is great for illuminating carbonization on pre 17' 3.5's

[@8020Media]

Good point. We briefly referenced the cam phaser issues in our article but forgot to address it in this video. On the 1st gen engines the cam phaser problems were often overshadowed by timing chain stretching. Anyway, I believe it was around 2019 that Ford finally fixed the issues with cam phasers.

[@Steve-yr5vi]

total BS, when it's cold and the engine is in it's start up cycle it's a little loud. It's nothing to worry about. All trucks maintain rev's on start up to warm up, nothing is wrong nothing is being damaged.

[@lordbandi9804]

@@8020Media that’s funny. The Cam phaser are still shit, they just released a new design of them very recently, us in the Raptor community know about cam phasers cause it’s the biggest and most common problem we have.

[@Morris1974]

I have a 2017 F150 and had the cam phasers replaced at about 30k miles. The motor was sounding like a diesel when cranked up cold. I changed my oil every 5k miles (with Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w30) and haven't done any towing. A bit later I had to have the torque converter then the transmission overhauled at about 50k miles. I hope I'm not in for more surprises.

[@aristeourias8756]

@8020 Media ford lies 2019 have defected parts camphaser camshaft tailgates computers problem evaporated cooling problems misfire cylinders transmission problems 2019 lariat loaded is trash

[@TT64NOVASS]

My 3.5 was a turd , pretty damn good, when it was good, but never again , im loving this new to me Silverado !

[@8020Media]

John - Thanks for providing your first hand experience! What engine do you have now?

[@ginginthing]

Nice discussion, but I was surprised you didn't cover some of the other big problems that plagued this engine. I wanted one of these engines but decided to wait ten years until it had more updates that fixed most of it's weak spots. The cam phasers were a huge problem with these engines, that I knew of, up until 21 when they did a major redesign on them and also went to cast SS exhaust headers which was apparently another problem with exh manifold warpage, that Ford addressed. I think they tweaked some other areas at that time. I waited until 22 to buy one, and so far, the phasers are doing well. I only run blended syn FOMOCO oil and filters and change the oil every 3k. I've used pure synthetic oil on all my cars for the last 35 years, but when Ford engineers tell us to run a syn blend oil in their 3.5l engine, and since they have countless hours of data that I don't have, I run syn blend oil. The more often oil is changed on these kind of turbo engines, the better it is for the engine. Not an area to try and save money. I change mine every 2500m.

[@8020Media]

G - Yes, we forgot to include the cam phasers. But you're spot on with everything else. Thanks for the added insight.

[@shaibalc]

Thank you so much for this wonderful overview. Encouraging to see the comments below. very well done.

[@8020Media]

S - Thanks for the feedback! We hope it was helpful.

[@aaronkowalewski659]

Great episode, some of the power figures are wrong though. The 17-21 have 375hp and 470lbft and the standard 3.5l ecoboost in the 21 plus are 400hp and 500lbft. The Raptor and limited models share the same high output engine. Great content. Thanks for the info

[@8020Media]

Aaron - Thanks for the insight and feedback.

[@aaronkowalewski659]

@@8020Media Thank you for the great content! 👍

[@waltajmaliii]

I bought a 2017 eco boost XLT F150 crew cab new. It was an amazing truck when it did work. but I swear it was in the shop more than I had it. From the ticking and having the cam phasers replaced 4 times and timing chain 3 times, the panoramic sunroof broke three times, and 4x4 went out twice in less than 3 years.

[@8020Media]

Yikes - sounds like you got a lemon, not sure I've heard any this bad before.

[@bjornegan6421]

how often did you do oil changes?

[@danieledwards7178]

2017 Gen 2 , 3.5 .... 62k miles ... Im on my 5th time having the Leaking Oil Pan Fixed .. and 2nd time having the Cam Phasers Done ... *Too Not Mention Either of these issues is a Disservice to your viewers !!!!! You might Also want to mention that on the Brake Calipers that the Bottom Slide Bolt seizes ... had to replace mine at 27k and just did them again at 61k ... and yes , they were properly greased with good , intact seals .. so not sure why , maybe the metal ford uses on the FOMCO parts was not good , idk , but ive never seen the slide bolts rust up so fast . Also had the windshield washer pump go , a starter go and the 400watt plug shuts down all the time with just my phone charger .. ughhhh

[@8020Media]

Daniel - Thanks for your input and experience. Unfortunately, not all engines or vehicles are created equally. These are just the problems that we have seen more predominately. However, your feedback will assist other viewers in the future!

[@paulhunter9613]

This is a video about the 3.5 engine, not an area to whine about brakes, windshield washer pumps, starters, or the 400 watt plugs. That’s for your Facebook page

[@02hreblue30]

you got the plastic oil pan. my 2018 got the metal one half way through production. love it

[@richardrice6932]

My 2017 3.5l twin turbo eco boost engine just locked up on me with oil in it. Now I got to buy a new motor

[@paulhunter9613]

@@richardrice6932 nah, just go to the dealership and get a new key for that locked up engine of yours, it happens all the time

[@cwtex59]

Only issue I had on my 2016 3.5 Ecoboost was catalytic converters stopping up . First one was around 30,000 miles and second was at around 45,000 miles . Asked why and was told by dealership Ford made a mistake on sizing them . Supposedly they made a update to increase the size . Doesn’t make since to me but that’s what they said and was covered by emission warranty.

[@8020Media]

Cliff - Thanks for sharing your experience. That must've been frustrating..

[@colliswilliams8992]

I have the same issue with my 2016. I just ordered a high-flow catted downpipe set.

[@cwtex59]

@@colliswilliams8992 Dealership did mine under emissions warranty. Said they were larger size than what they took off . Hopefully you get yours taken care of .

[@colliswilliams8992]

@@cwtex59 I'm out of warranty. I'm installing aftermarket, high-flow cats that have a larger honeycomb so they breathe better than the OEM. They aren't legal in NY or Cali, but I'll never ever be going to either of those places, ever ever ever.

[@markt7291]

Sounds like 2018 F150 onwards is a good bet on the 3.5 ecoboost. Thanks as I’m looking for one next few weeks.

[@Steve-yr5vi]

I bought because a good friend has a 2013 with the EB engine, and knowing him I know he abuses his trucks, he has been through them all, was never a brand loyal guy, but he loves his 3.5EB. They were great engines from the first year they were sold, the 3.5 dominates the 1/2 truck market. Like anything else, do the required maintenance, if you drive it like an idiot expect issues, as with anything.

[@8020Media]

Mark - Let us know what end up going with! Nothing better than a new truck

[@maxseed4730]

I'm on my 3rd 3.5 ecoboost had a 2012.. was great.. had an 17.. junk! Now I have a 22.. great so far!

[@8020Media]

M - Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@MotörDogzAdventures]

290,000 km on my 2012 F150 FX4 3.5L EB. I am the original owner and have used Mobil 1 full synthetic since 60,000 km. Always use top tear fuel, change oil at 8 - 10,000 km, avoid short trips and have not had any noticeable carbon issues. I have replaced spark plugs every 80,000 km with Motorcraft, the last time I gapped them to .028, read somewhere that helps them last longer. Replaced the timing chain/phasers at 240,000 km due to the cold start rattle. Still makes great power and fuel economy hasn't changed. No oil consumption or oil leaks, I have chased a few coolant leaks one being the o-ring at the bottom of the coolant reservoir and another being a loose clamp on the drivers side turbo. Would definitely buy this engine again, regular maintenance is the key though. Good oil and change it often.

[@8020Media]

MotorDogz - Thanks for sharing your experience! We love seeing 3.5s thrive!

[@venomgt1328]

Did he mention the cam phaser issue? I'm dealing with this "common" issue now.

[@02hreblue30]

recalls done. zero issues

[@danieljeune1952]

Ford has a retarded recall on them but under 50k 100% coverd and beyond prorated smh

[@danieljeune1952]

@@02hreblue30 the recall is done? When

[@TheHonarable1]

Sounds to me that the engine itself is extremely solid!

[@8020Media]

T - If properly maintained, we agree!

[@jimkamradt7243]

I bought a 2012 in 2015 with 37,000 miles on it. I drove to 97,000 miles and sold it. I'm very sorry I side. One problem was an o2 sensor. Replaced brakes (normall), no other problems. Good maintenance is the key to any vehicle, it always has been and always will be.

[@8020Media]

Jim - Thanks for sharing your experience and insight!

[@eviemetcalf3587]

You missed a couple big ones. I have 2014 tremor. Exhaust manifold bolts breaking and manifold warping, both sides did that to me. Mechanic said it's a common issue. Second one is cam phaser rattle, I had those replaced(4) and while they were in there I had them do the timing chain assembly. All this happened before 100k miles, all very common to the 3.5 eco. Manifolds were $1500 a piece, timing gear and phasers were $ 2500. Not ok in my book, kinda wish I got the 5.0. Mechanic told that the 5.0 has cam phaser issues also though. Your next post crank up the volume a bit, hard to hear you.

[@8020Media]

Evie - Thanks for sharing your experience with your 3.5. This will also assist future viewers! Also, thanks for the feedback! We're trying to do everything possible to produce the best content possible. As of this recording, we have pumped up the mic volume, so we hope this isn't an issue anymore. Thanks again!

[@ernestjohnson1807]

Hope you learned a lessen and traded that shit can in on a toyota.

[@eviemetcalf3587]

@@ernestjohnson1807 I had an 85 and an 86 toyota 4x4's, drove them for 12 years. Great trucks but gutless at highway speeds. While I would have gotten a great price for my trade in, the price of new and used trucks are insane right now. I looked at what was out there and I couldn't afford it. I actually really like the truck and the power it has, just wish the ford engineers would pull their heads out of there asses and come up with better designs.

[@Steve-yr5vi]

Untrue, the 2014 is a "sport truck" so my guess is you are drag racing it, etc. Racing vehicles tends to require frequent engine rebuilds, doesn't matter what's under the hood. I have never heard even once of that issue; people that drive vehicles hard will have problems with them, people that take care of their vehicles don't.

[@AinsleyVarvel]

Tons of value in this video! Thanks!

[@8020Media]

A - Thanks for the feedback! We hope it was helpful.

[@henryv.3272]

I have a 2010 Taurus SHO with the 3.5TT and I would definitely include the water pump at 100K. If this fails, and many have it can drop the coolant into the oil pan. At which point you are out an engine. I replaced my water pump and timing set at 100K, carbon cleaning at 110k. Only other failure I have had is a torque converter at 125k but that is platform specific and not something I think affects the F150. Otherwise I am very happy with the power and overall smoothness of the 3.5 ecoboost.

[@8020Media]

Henry - Thanks for sharing your valuable experience and insights with your Taurus!

[@jimshu245]

I thought the 3.5tt was external water pump.

[@MrSpiderwitch]

Y'all really just painted your garage wall and started a KZbin channel... I love it lol

[@8020Media]

XD - Given this was our first video, we have evolved a little bit, but we have a ways to go on video production and have a lot of great ideas in the works.

[@petecoppola5428]

The 3.5 ecoboost first came out in the 2010 in Lincoln vehicles as well as the flex and taurus sho. I changed my oil every 5k, with full synthetic, and had both the carbon buildup problem as well as the timing chain issue. Not to mention transmission pump issue, deformed oil pan, 4wd went out the first time I used it, steering rack went, radio quit on me, blend door on the hvac system went, support bearing for the main driveshaft went, when I changed over to towing mirrors, one nut holding on the mirrors was a different size, and, when I had to change out the battery, a cap from the original battery was left in the battery tray by the factory. At Ford, quality is no longer job 1, not like it ever was though.

[@petecoppola5428]

Forgot to mention, had to change out the boost pump for the brakes as well. Don't forget to mention the transmission issues as well as the moisture issues. According to the state I live in, my F150 was two days short of being a certified lemon.

[@8020Media]

Pete - Sorry to hear about your experience, but is definitely helpful for future viewers. Do you still have said F150?

[@petecoppola5428]

@@8020Media Nope, I got rid of it almost 2 years ago, and I only had 140,000 on it. My Chevy lasted twice as long as that, and was still going strong when I traded that in.

[@8020Media]

Pete - What Chevy are you in now?

[@stephenbloom2545]

Did you use a good synthetic filter too, it makes a big difference

[@Stephen_416]

Bought a 2018 3.5 ecoboost brand new from for in 2018. Cam chain tensioners Leaking oil pan Leaking diff One time it was in the driveway went to start it wouldn't start. That was in June 2022 now in Nov 2022 its in my driveway again won't start. Think I'll sell this money pit and look for something more reliable. Truck currently has 75k on it

[@8020Media]

Stephen - So sorry to hear about your 3.5. Thanks for sharing your experience, it will assist future viewers.

[@02hreblue30]

mine has been bulletproof. on my second

[@fordtrbo]

2018 3.5 ecoboost original owner here. Installing my cam phasers for the second time. 1st time was during pandemic, original faulty design phasers were installed. They lasted 40k and now I am getting the "newly designed phasers, 2021 model". Make sure you ask for the M series and not the H series phasers. H is the old stock with the problems

[@DJGENOTYPE]

The 3.5 eco boost is a great engine. But you have to make sure the oil gets changed ever 5K miles. Don’t rely on what the truck is telling you. The oil filter can only catch so much before there is bypass. The extra carbon in the oil will destroy your turbos.

[@8020Media]

DJ - We completely agree!

[@Doc1855]

I change my oil every 4K miles with Mobile 1 full synthetic and I change the front and rear differential, transfer case and flush the transmission every 30K miles.

[@8020Media]

Good call - we still don't trust any of these "intelligent" service oil life systems that can let you go 10,000 miles without an oil change. It's amazing how additional reliability and longevity you get simply from changing it every 3-5,000 miles instead.

[@Doc1855]

@@8020Media My grandparents bought a Corolla new in 78. In 81 my sister started college and her Toyota Celica was wore out so my grandparents sold her their Corolla for what she sold her Celica for, ($950). In 83, I needed a reliable car for college so my sister sold me the Corolla. It had 70K miles on it. I paid my sister $500 for it. Back then all we had was conventional oil, so I changed it every 3K miles & changed the gear oil (in the 4spd manual transmission), rear end grease every 30K miles. It got me through Graduate school, but I kept driving it because I had a LOT of student loans and wanted to get them paid off ASAP. After the loans were paid, I wanted to save money for a down payment to buy a house. That Corolla was a bare bones 2 dr. Vinyl seats, vinyl floor. It had manual steering and pwr brakes. It also came standard with an AM radio, lol. At around 300K miles the rear end was howling so I took out the rear seats and stuffed dense foam and replaced the seats so I didn’t hear the rear end howl so loudly. The drivers seat was absolutely wore out so I put a phone book in it and a pillow on top and seat covers over it. I went through 3 clutches, 2 alterations, a few batteries, 2 radiators and water pumps. When the belts and hose’s wore out I’d replace them. In 2002 it finally died at a whopping 488K miles. I bought a new Camry and drove it until my needs changed so in 2011 I bought a new Rav Limited 4WD. It has the 3.5 V6 and a 5spd automatic transmission. I’m still driving my Rav today but it only has 105K miles. I plan on driving it until I turn 70, (13 years). I’ve already decided that I’ll replace it with a Lexus RX hybrid. I’ve had other vehicles for fun cars and I always have had a pickup for yard work, going fishing or hunting, but I’ve only owned 3 cars as my everyday car since I turned 18. Our 2015 Tacoma 4X4 extra cab only has 35K, so I’m sure that our kiddos will be fighting over it when my wife and I are dead and gone. My wife had an 18 year old Camry that needed to be replaced (she had to park it 3-4 months every year bc of our snow pack). She would drive my Rav and I’d drive the pickup. Last November we decided to buy her a Subaru Outback. It was a 2 year lease return with only 5,600 miles on it. We’ve discovered that even though Subaru’s are reliable and last a long time, they need more maintenance than Toyota’s. I’m thinking that when it wears out we’ll replace it with a Toyota Venza. Thanks for listening. Enjoy your day !

[@tt6518]

Hello, Don't forget to flush the coolant and the brakes fluid too. You're doing it right for sure. Tigo

[@mcmuskie2563]

You might want to check the recent discovery’s with Mobile

[@Doc1855]

@@mcmuskie2563 What does it say or how do I go about looking up the information?

[@jeremybroderick9465]

300 I6 still holds the crown

[@8020Media]

Jeremy - Probably one of the most unkillable engines for sure! That's a favorite of ours.

[@Twolife]

My 82 5.0 Windsor has 370k and must emission test every two years. Passes with flying colors!

[@teop7887]

As a 3.5 ecoBoost owner, I tip my hat to you Sir, indeed you are correct!

[@pemithepitty6442]

All day. 4.9L with the 5 speed literally lasts forever.

[@darrencedeno8098]

4.9 l6 the most reliable Ford engine I rather have that than EcoBoost

[@charles17508]

2014 125 thousand later and its a great truck ive ran full synthetic and done every 5 k i also put a catch can in at like 100k but i dont think i needed but its there and i empty it a lot so maybe it was a good upgrade.

[@8020Media]

Charles - Great insight here. Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@jasonbrushett2005]

Change the oil early,occasionally wot ,love my 3.5

[@8020Media]

Jason - Thanks for sharing! We love a good 3.5 Ecoboost that is well maintained!

[@cheizaguirre5494]

What oil u use ? Thanks

[@jasonbrushett2005]

@@cheizaguirre5494 is use Mobil 1 5w30 full synthetic and MotorCraft filter every 8000kms/5000 miles

[@Jordan-jx6zc]

@@jasonbrushett2005 same thing I use, Mobil 1 is the best.

[@paulhunter9613]

@@8020Media what do you guys think is the time to change the 5w30 semi synthetic oil? I plan on 4000 mi, but only have 1200 mi on this oil now

[@ggconsumer6612]

We see many failures at the dealership, keep 3 long blocks in stock if that tells you anything. Change your Oil every 5,000 miles and you'll have a better chance.

[@8020Media]

G - Thanks for sharing this insight.

[@garyc5651]

3.5 EcoBoost first application was the Taurus SHO, not the F150. 2011 was the first year in the F150.

[@8020Media]

Gary - Thanks for the input.

[@mavricxx]

Please remake it with better sound so we can hear it better, really interested in this topic.

[@8020Media]

NutN - We apologize about the audio quality. However, this was our first video and have really enhanced the audio quality since. There are manual closed captions on all videos to ensure the information is provided.

[@benjaminbixby8459]

Other problems: Plastic Oil pan. Cam phasers.

[@8020Media]

Benjamin - Thanks for adding input! This not only helps us, but also future viewers! We have also heard of these issues as well.

[@02hreblue30]

cam phasers had recalls zero dollars fixed no issues. quit the whining

[@relikvija]

Not zero I still had to pay 800$ (out of 4900$)at the dealership for the cam phaser replacement.

[@SubUrbanNinja-EDC]

Thanks for the video. My main question is, once my 2015 3.5 Ecoboost engine starts giving me problems, can I change the entire engine out for a V8 Coyote engine? Or Can I just take the ecoboost off and just use the V6 without the turbo? Or do I need to replace the engine with a V6 or another V6 ecoboost? Thanks.

[@8020Media]

Since the 5.0 Coyote is an option in the F-150, the engine bay is designed to easily accommodate the V8 Coyote engine. However, you'll also need to replace quite a bit of wiring, wiring harness, some electronics, etc. If you'd rather move onto the 5.0 Coyote then your best bet is likely selling the 3.5 EcoBoost and simply buying an F-150 with the V8. It will be much cheaper and less of a headache to go that route.

[@SubUrbanNinja-EDC]

@@8020Media thanks!

[@dcleboski698]

One would think that after manufacturing cars for 112 years, Ford wouldn’t have so many quality problems/recalls with their vehicles. God forbid car manufacturers put a few more quality parts in their cars/trucks so they wouldn’t have such a PR problem. Crappy parts and higher prices= …ain’t gonna buy a new one for now.

[@8020Media]

D - Unfortunately this seems like a common theme with many brands nowadays, not even just Ford..

[@jerryjeromehawkins1712]

That would make sense D... if Ford was still producing Model Ts. If that was the case I'm sure they'd be building them with zero issues today. Problem is... every year there are advancements made in every conceivable category related to the modern automobile. From tech to ever increasing government mandates for safety and fuel mileage... today's car manufacturers are constantly breaking new ground.

[@ernestjohnson1807]

Constantly breaking new ground and still can't get cam phasers right. They have had problems with them in multiple engines and still have problems today! If you want to buy a ford. Kick yourself in the balls and go home and think about it.

[@Steve-yr5vi]

They don't, the F150 is the #1 selling truck because they last, plain and simple. Look at people that depend on trucks for their living, what are most of them driving? A Ford.

[@02hreblue30]

recalls fix problems. Glad they do them. All of the makers do them. Its now the norm. In the past they made it your problem

[@mjkane217]

I have a question. I’m looking at buying an F150 soon… used. I’ll be towing about 2000 lbs but only about a mile. I put 4000 miles on my current vehicle per year. Would you suggest a 3.7 or 3.5 eco…or the 5.0. Thank you.

[@8020Media]

MJ - We aren't going to suggest any because there are many factors at play (budget, etc). But all three should have the ability to do what you're needing.

[@Johnsmith46392]

Any of those would be more than capable of doing the job.

[@gamitaalfonso9999]

I own a 2014 F150 with the Coyote! It’s a decent truck, but having owned Honda and Toyota cars for the last 30 years, it’s too many little maintenance niggles in the Fords. The radiator failed; blower motor resistor failed; blower motor failed.

[@8020Media]

Gamita - Thanks for sharing your first hand experience! This will certainly help future viewers.

[@guzforce]

May I consider it all for the Ford Flex? Any more points I should be aware of?

[@8020Media]

Guz - This video goes over the engine as a whole, so still applies to the Flex.

[@guzforce]

@@8020Media Awesome! Thanks,.

[@chunnelll]

I’m surprised you didn’t mention the cam phasers.

[@8020Media]

Chunnel - That is one thing that we have missed but have certainly covered this in the comments. Thanks for the insight.

[@skrsys]

If you change your plugs often enough on these, you generally won't run into problems with the coils. If you let the plugs go to long, they stress the coils and cause premature failures. I'm tuned, so I change mine every 20k.

[@8020Media]

Yepp, good call. Changing them every 20,000-30,000 miles when tuned is always a great idea and certainly reduces load put on the coil.

[@02hreblue30]

so you voided the warranty and basically can't give us any real info on stock. Thanks for nothing

[@skrsys]

@@02hreblue30 changing the the spark plugs frequently will not void your warranty. Because I’m tuned I change them more frequently @20k, but if I wasn’t tuned I would change @30k. Either way you reduce stress on the coils when the plugs are in optimal condition.

[@Kay-dx8vm]

Wow, spark plugs changed every 20k? I'm at 113k and haven't changed those once 😬 (bought used at 60k). Man, I gotta change them asap now

[@halkastner6866]

Thank you for the information.

[@8020Media]

Hal - Thanks for the feedback! We hope it has helped you in your research.

[@richardrice6932]

I have a 2017 3.5l twin turbo eco boost, my engine locked up completely now I gotta buy a new motor

[@8020Media]

Richard - So sorry to hear this. Do you happen to know the cause of this?

[@richardrice6932]

@@8020Media no

[@8020Media]

Interesting. Did you ever take it into the shop?

[@theHeath]

Full synthetic oil change every 3-4k miles and they'll last a lifetime. Obviously minor wear and tear you'll replace overtime.

[@8020Media]

Yepp - maintenance is key. Always recommend disregarding the intelligent oil life monitoring and changing it every 3-5k miles anyways.

[@02hreblue30]

Blackstone suggested 8k for mine. no problem

[@theHeath]

@@02hreblue30 I like the peace of mind and fresh oil. I live in Colorado so pretty extreme conditions so I do mine at 4k full syn

[@shoobidyboop8634]

Good stuff, my man.

[@8020Media]

Thanks Shoobidy! We appreciate the feedback.

[@thegarch3293]

Good video

[@8020Media]

Garch - Thanks for the feedback! We’re gonna keep ‘em going!

[@scotmahan-miller382]

Good day, can you tell me is this is the same engine that is put in the 2017 ford police interceptor utility? And what are your thoughts on this SUV? Thanks.

[@8020Media]

S - It is offered in this model as an upgrade. It's a cool looking explorer.

[@ms1406]

Im not going to lie i think i would take the 2.7 over anything else...

[@8020Media]

M S - We have an article on this topic on one of our sites, 3.5 vs 2.7, and both are great engines. We think it comes down to personal preference. The 3.5 provides maximum performance and towing capacity, and 2.7 also provides great performance and towing for its size. We feel both engines also deliver good reliability.

[@redbull8661]

I always get the 2.7. They get great gas mileage, lots of power and no problems, I basically just drive it like a car though.

[@ms1406]

@@8020Media yes both are great!!!

[@ms1406]

@@redbull8661 yea and also it range of travel is farther then most other v8 trucks

[@Branhawk]

Bought my 2013 with 170k it had no catch can but it drove fine so I bought it. I installed catch can and replaced plugs. Sunroof it all screwed up so I just adjusted it closed and I’m ok with that. 200k runs great and hauls ass.

[@8020Media]

Nice - awesome to hear your 3.5 EcoBoost is still holding up well after 200,000 miles!

[@studritaf207]

Cam Phaser replace around 40k. Came back after 100k😢😢😢

[@8020Media]

StudRita - So sorry to hear! Thanks for sharing your experience though. It will help out future viewers!

[@ericgrady1797]

My 2020 3.5 had the recall for cam phasers they replaced with heavier springs truck only has 20k on it hopefully no other issues with that

[@timhowell6398]

Do you recommend a catch can minimizing the carbon buildup? If so, for what year models?

[@8020Media]

Tim - regardless of year, a catch can is a great addition to any direct injection engine. If you want to avoid the need for walnut blasting down the road then a catch can is a solid investment.

[@sflagg0817]

I had a 2016 at 56, 000 miles broken motor mounts bad manifold, resonator our camper is only 4000 dry as well

[@8020Media]

S - So sorry to hear this.. However, we appreciate you taking the time to share your experience.

[@sflagg0817]

@@8020Media i traded that in on a 23 F350 then at 1500 miles it was deemed a lemon by Ford due to a charging system fault that could not be fixed i then got a 24 F250 i still stuck by Ford

[@8020Media]

S - Wow. Good on them! Thanks again.

[@alb12345672]

11-14 offered a 6.2L. Max Tow on my 6.2L is 11.1K. The Eco would be 11.3K. Difference is limited by the platform and weight of the engine.

[@02hreblue30]

3.5 has wayyyy more available torque across the range vs normally aspirated V8. No comparison

[@JeffSh00ts]

6.2 on a f150? No way unless it was a raptor

[@alb12345672]

@@JeffSh00ts Absolutely available but a rare option. Check the ford brochure. I drive one every day. Maybe less than 5% sold. Some had very special trims. Look up "2011 Lariat Limited"

[@paulpellico3797]

you are off a few years and model. my 2010 lincoln mks has the first 3.5 EcoBoost engine. it later came available in the next SHO, then the F 150. I am still trying to find information of this first gen 3.5 vs the next-gen, 2nd gen, changes and fixes...or actual back-steps. i understand the 2nd gen had a few more issues than the 1rst. the f 150 is a major difference to the cars.

[@Cutters79]

Timing chain issue in my '13 Ford Flex Ecoboost with 105k miles. They're estimating $3,000 for replacement! Did Ford ever admit this was a "known issue"?

[@8020Media]

Cutters - Sorry to hear about this! There were timing chain issues in the 1st Gen 3.5s (2010-2014), but Ford seems like they noticed it was an issue and addressed it in the 2nd gen 3.5s. They also issued a service bulletin, so they are definitely aware of the issue.

[@02hreblue30]

flex eco boost not the same 3.5 eco boost as the truck. Yours is front wheel drive based and different.

[@greggjones-henry6414]

Good video but how can he possibly talk about the common problems and not mention the cam phaser issue at all? Most cohost engines need to have the cam phasers replaced, sometimes multiple times!

[@8020Media]

Greg - We've acknowledged that we missed it multiple times in the comments. Thanks for the feedback.

[@jerrybinkley9227]

You forgot to mention the cam phaser rattle

[@8020Media]

Jerry - Yes, we realized this after the fact and have mentioned this many times in the comments. But you are correct, this is definitely a common issue with the 3.5's.

[@845ToastT]

The biggest problem is the 10-speed transmission. It's jerky and hunts for gears all of the time. I find it drives much better on the highway if you block out gear 9 and 10 at the expense of fuel economy, but I shouldnt have to do that

[@8020Media]

Toast - There have been many transmission issues noted along the lines of your experience. Definitely unfortunate.

[@teop7887]

What about cam phasers rattle and timing chain??

[@8020Media]

T - We've addressed this many times in the comments. Certainly common!

[@David-yy7lb]

The best Ford engines were the 300 inline 6 , 289, 302, 351c, 390, 429 and 460👍🏿

[@8020Media]

David - Thanks for the input! Have you had any first hand experience with any of those? If so, do you mind sharing to help viewers?

[@charles17508]

I use a chevron fuel cleaner every few thousand miles aswell.

[@8020Media]

Charles - Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@bjornegan6421]

with your experience and research, which engine would you say is the most reliable option for the last 10 or so years of f150's?

[@8020Media]

B - Probably the 5.0. All depending on maintenance and needs though. Here's a good video for your research: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmipf3yei92kr7M

[@bjornegan6421]

@@8020Media I appreciate that very much!

[@bjornegan6421]

@@8020Media thank you

[@davidbraswell1481]

Does a catch can stop build up of carbon also? I have the 2011 with 184,000 miles no phaser knock yet thank goodness but I am worried about the other stuff

[@8020Media]

David - Yes it does. This is quite popular.

[@davidh9820]

I just purchased a 2022 F150 with 3.5L V6 ecoboost engine. But the issue I’m noticing is that it idles kinda rough. I don’t remember feeling that cabin vibration on the test drive. But every time I park or turn it on. Cabin starts to vibrate. And now close to 3K miles I’m starting to feel some vibration in speeds. Now even when driving on the Hwy. overall the truck dosent feel smooth driving conditions. I am wondering if there are any other customers feel the same thing.

[@8020Media]

David - This isn't something we have heard, especially at such low mileage. Have you called the dealership by chance?

[@davidh9820]

@@8020Media hey ! I have and they say it’s normal. Nothing they can do. Even the ones on the lot. They all vibrate. I am in NC. Not sure if weather and clod temperature have something to do with it.

[@8020Media]

Not sure if this is "normal", but we know many auto manufacturer's claim things are normal when they shouldn't actually be normal.. Keep us updated on this though! Curious to hear if it is actually just the weather.

[@stephenbloom2545]

Switch to a WIX HP oil filter and use a quality synthetic oil That should alleviate most of the ruff idle

[@MattYoung-n5l]

I’ve owned a few and between coolant leaks and carbon buildup coil packs I will take a pass on any more

[@8020Media]

U - Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@TonyTube407]

According to Wiki, It doesn't look like the 2nd generation 2017 EcoBoost made its way to the Explorer. Can anyone else confirm this? I have a 2017 Explorer and would like to know.

[@8020Media]

Tony - This is correct. The second gen didn't make an appearance until 2018.

[@TonyTube407]

Bummer. Thanks. @@8020Media

[@Doc1855]

The new 3.5 eco boost turbo V6 engine goes out usually around 50K miles and it’s EXPENSIVE to repair. Get the tried and true 5.0 (302) v8.

[@8020Media]

David - Everyone is held to their own opinion, but we're curious did you have a 3.5 EB go out around 50k? and what exactly do you mean by "goes out". The 302 is also a great engine!

[@Doc1855]

@@8020Media actually the turbo stopped working at 40K miles. I have 2 friends who have the same engine as mine. Their turbos went out at 48K and 51k. I had mine fixed, sold the truck and bought one with a 302.

[@8020Media]

Wow! So sorry to hear about your experience. Thanks for sharing though as this will assist future viewers!

[@02hreblue30]

total misinformation. New V8 has cylinder liner issues and displacement on demand issues so there. 3.5 has issues because its by far the most common

[@3triplexxx]

The transmission blew and cam phasers/timing chain needed replacement at 52k miles on my 2019 3.5L. I always changed the oil between 3k and 5k miles.

[@Goddi195]

Change oil every 4000 for that turbo

[@8020Media]

Soccer - Some good advice there!

[@JimKuhlman-o2d]

I have the 3.5 in 2017 Expedition. Block cracked at 37,000 and need a new engine. Out of warranty time wise. Has anyone heard of this happening and do I have any recourse with Ford?

[@8020Media]

J - Sorry to hear this... Keep us updated on this.

[@RTSSHO]

Honda didn't run tubros when eco boost came out. But turbo factory Hondas are bad according to a newer video lol

[@8020Media]

JDM - We’re having a hard time trying to understand what you’re getting at here.

[@jeremyj3893]

Stuck between a 2017 fusion sport pr a 2015 taurus sho any suggestions??

[@8020Media]

J - All depends on maintenance history. But we would lean to the newer vehicle.

[@jeremyj3893]

@8020Media additional question how much power can I make while still being reliable with a tune Secondary question- what mods would you suggest I get I was thinking catted down pipes, the tune, an intercooler, BOV and possibly a muffler delete

[@8020Media]

J - We have a whole video on this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGnRno2vit2bhs0

[@darrencedeno8098]

96 was the last year that make American Ford engines

[@8020Media]

D - They certainly haven't been the same.

[@DM-fv7hw]

In 2011 the engine was just too new. They have had this engine 11 years or so to work out the kinks.

[@8020Media]

We couldn't agree more!

[@donnyaldridge6452]

What about the 2.0l ecoboost in the Bronco Sports..Do they still blow up?

[@8020Media]

If you're referencing the known coolant leaks and cracking around the #2-3 cylinders then we aren't aware of that being a major issue on the Bronco so far. Older 2.0 EcoBoost engines were great with their closed-deck cooling designs and rarely ran into these issues. Problems mostly began with the re-designed twin-scroll turbo 2.0L EcoBoost from 2015+. Ford issued a service bulletin back in June 2022, but that only references 2015-2019 Edge, Escape, Fusion, MKC, and MKZ models. Ultimately, these coolant leaks and block cracking don't appear to be a common problem on the 2.0 Bronco...so far. The larger 2.7L V6 EcoBoost has been the more problematic engine in the Bronco when it comes to complete engine failures.

[@1976axerhand]

I don't think the new 2.0 engines will blow up, but they only have direct injection, so the intake valves will get carbon build up.i believe they fixed the defect in the block in 2019 or 2020 versions.

[@racekar80]

The 2.7 ecoboost is fords best turbo engine.

[@8020Media]

Racekar - We just released a 2.7 EB video and we plan on releasing a 2.7 vs 3.5 EB video in the near future. Make sure to stay tuned!

[@stormhawk31]

Almost all of the internals on the Ford GT are stock ecoboost parts. The upgrades are almost all external and tuning.

[@8020Media]

Storm - For the most part, yes.

[@stormhawk31]

@@8020Media Which means there's a LOT of power locked up in that engine, just waiting to be let free!

[@sirjhonson8218]

I switched to Amsoil in my eco boost. Hope it will be good for it.

[@8020Media]

Sir - It definitely should be. Keep us updated!

[@mikefoehr235]

My cousin had an early 3.5 Ecobust...chain gave uonthe ghost 👻. So, the 3.5 is good for 200 000 miles...300 000 kms...I will keep my Tundra. I figure it will go easily 400 000 miles or 600 000 kms or more. I gladly pay a bit more for gas and enjoy the power of the 5.7.

[@loyal4theway159]

5.7 fuel economy is a disaster literally

[@8020Media]

Mike - We have an article on Toyota's 5.7 V8 engine on one of our sites and it is in fact pretty reliable. Both are very reliable and have very few problems. With Ford's upgrade to the 2nd Gen 3.5 Ecoboost, it has resolved its timing chain issues. Thanks for sharing your feedback.

[@mikefoehr235]

@@loyal4theway159 I call bullshit. It is slightly harder on fuel than my best friends RAM but the RAM has cylinder deactivation which has the potential for serious cam and follower damage. My Tundra gets between 11.4 to 13.5 litres per 100.kms which is really not bad. To.put it in perspective my 88 Sierra was no better on fuel and was about 1/2 the HP and was a 5.0 Litre. My Sierra lived mostly in the dealers repair centre in the 3 years i had it.

[@mikefoehr235]

@@8020Media The 5.7 is much hated about fuel. Well, the truck weighs 6 000 plus pounds. The rear differential is 4.30:1 and makes for a lot of power. If you drive it hard, hell yes she is thirsty BUT with a light foot, it's not.terrible. The one issue is cam tower leaks after several 100 000 kms. That may not even happen.

[@8020Media]

Mike - Thanks for the feedback! This will definitely assist future viewers.

[@CapeFrank57]

I have a very important question for you. I’m about to purchase a vehicle 2019 with a 3.5 eco-boost motor I was looking at the Carfax report and 20,000 miles Carfax report says short block replaced is that something I should worry about since I’m paying over $50,000 for the vehicle, I really would appreciate your feedback as soon as possible. I don’t want to buy a $50,000 problem thank you.

[@8020Media]

Sounds like something in the block probably failed due to a manufacturing defect. I would 1) figure out what warranty you have on the new block, and 2) use it to get a discount. The good news is you have a new block, the bad news is you don't really know what caused the block failure and everything else is going to be from that original engine. If it isn't a good bit cheaper than comparable options then I would probably avoid it - also probably good to know how many miles it's been running the new block and of course warranty.

[@CapeFrank57]

@@8020Media I really really appreciate your thoughts and expertise on this matter I’m getting the vehicle around $7000 less than book value the block was replaced at 20,000 miles the vehicle now has 37,000 miles and the dealership says the vehicle runs excellent what would you do?

[@SpicyRok7482]

first avail...2010 LINCOLN MKS.

[@8020Media]

Louis - Thanks for this insight.

[@JonRangel87]

Happy pride month to all the ecoboost owners

[@wyomingcowboy501]

If you should ever doubt the importance of preventive maintenance, such as 5 - 6000 oil changes with synthetic, go ahead and run your engine to 10, 000 miles or more, especially with conventional oils, you will be pushing your vehicle....whether truck or car. 😂

[@8020Media]

W - Well said!