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Cashawn Thompson speaks on how she started a global movement meant to uplift Black women and girls.
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[@ForHarriet619]

Follow Cashawn on Twitter and Instagram @ThePBG Or drop her a coin or two via Cash App $CashawnT (she did not ask me to do this)

[@Chatterboxtherapists]

Done

[@Vesta0831]

For Harriet. Done ✅

[@Setsunako6587]

THANK YOU, SIS 💞 this whole video I was like, WHERE👏🏾 IS👏🏾 THE👏🏾 COLLECTION👏🏾 PLATE👏🏾?? *I* need to GO FUND HER! I'm going to give Cashawn her due and screen print my own shirt. If capitalism ain't here for her, I ain't here for capitalism. #gifteconomy

[@daralic2255]

Done!

[@TheNatralBeauty]

Done and Done! She deserves!

[@EverlynnsDirectiion]

When she said she wasn’t the “right kind” of woman, That hurt.

[@seeyouagain911]

@Jeff Newtown Why don't you just mind your business? You white men are the major reason why black people are where we are today.

[@saboo1_2]

@Jeff Newtown this isn't the space to centre yourself, fall back fam

[@2007tdubb]

Y’all are beyond redemption with how addicted you are to violating other group’s spaces. Why are you here?

[@moreswahilinaps6521]

So bad. But I deeply related.

[@BlendedBarbieDoll]

Supachat Supachat wow

[@Hephbeu]

Same as the Black woman that started the “Me Too Movement”

[@dramonmaster222]

That's EXACTLY what I was thinking as well.

[@Selanaxfanx]

Edit: Please check out Tarana Burke's Q+A and Speech on KZbin from OxfordUnion that was uploaded today. She didn't "look good" enough for them. The amount of people I've seen come at her appearance despite the work(What's actually important) she's done is disgusting.

[@MiniM69]

To be fair though, black women - and typically black women alone - have fought to elevate Ms. Burke’s name. The same thing has not happened for this creator, maybe not out of malice but misinformation.

[@greatgownsbeautifulgowns]

@Lala Ghana-Love Can you please tell me what was the awful comment that she made? Because when I look her up all I keep seeing are articles about her fiance contracting Coronavirus.

[@TheMandatoryReporter]

When you're darker skinned, ugly, older, overweight and under educated, you are INVISIBLE in this society. You deserve nothing- especially success. Salkis Re talks about this phenomena daily on her channel.

[@LacedWithOreos]

Turning 'black girl magic' into 'bronx girl magic, etc' rings as tone deaf as saying 'aLl lIvEs mAttEr'.

[@seeyouagain911]

So true!

[@Chatterboxtherapists]

Exactly!!!

[@ThriftedDadHat]

And it sounds corny as fuck tbh

[@dualityofbrina]

hard disagree

[@littlest-kim]

lmao and that's exactly what jenny said tho!

[@cashawnt84]

Y'all have left some very kind comments on this video. I appreciate everyone for watching and I appreciate the uplifting and supportive ways you have received my words.

[@outb4thecount]

CaShawn Thompson Thank you sis for giving us some recognition and blessing us with your wisdom. ❤️

[@crownjewel832]

CaShawn we LOVE you for EXACTLY who you are and for your beloved message that continues to inspires black women and girls worldwide ❤️

[@dopesexycool]

You are LOVED and appreciated! ❤❤❤ We are going to support you CRAZY. I will speak your name forever, Our Sister. Bless you always. 💋👑⚘

[@markricks]

I love you so very much! ❤️

[@naiomiscocoon8217]

You're truly amazing

[@MizzBooSongz]

I thought the movement was only about black women with degrees and stuff. To hear her say it was about all black women and her idea was completely changed is sad.

[@Noah-rq3xt]

vitalrose you can’t be body positive if you’re 600 pounds tho coz like you’re literally gonna die

[@757Princess]

I did too! You don’t have to be a astronaut millionaire genius for it to apply to you.

[@jamilabrownie]

I remember this article on this natural hair website called ‘Long Hair something’ lol I don’t remember but I used to frequent it a lot. It was highlighting this woman tweeting how she wishes for this hash tag to be applicable to ‘regular’ black women. I don’t think I’m regular but I don’t have all the external qualifiers for being ‘exceptional’ that some of these online magical black women do. School seems unlikely due to cost. Mental health and loneliness has been a hindrance and I tell myself that I do not care at all for external validation,I know I’m smart and capable but it’s simply not true. ‘Nobody, no nobody can make it out here alone’. That tweet really resonated with me but everyone in the comments was saying how celebrating regular black women defeats the purpose of the movement. It’s nice to know that they were wrong. More than anything we should celebrate virtue more than those cookie cutter accomplishments.

[@epiphany6189]

@phantom diaries girl shut up

[@Ifsters1]

Jamila Brown Thank you for this level of honesty. It was beautiful and refreshing. This is black girl magic, helping other black girls feel heard, just by your words.

[@crystalo8603]

“America was born through our bodies. We deserve everything we want.”

[@Tima-oz5te]

she needs to put it on a shirt, copyright and get her things this time! I'd buy it for sure

[@Boo-hu5zu]

Crystal O SAY IT AGAINNNNNNNNNNN !!!! 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿

[@naturalimmunity3776]

What a sobering deep reflective perspective. I had to write that down

[@Boo-hu5zu]

Tima that’s a WHOLE FACT!!! Hope she saw your comment and dose just that !!

[@GlamRight]

Wow! "Everything we want"

[@itsQueMajor]

“It turned into a thing that actually alienated women LIKE ME!” I felt that... damn...

[@glowuplife]

Me too. I had a community event totally hijacked from me by a white mom mafia PTA this year because i simply didn't have the money to properly market and present

[@itsQueMajor]

Omega Courtney oh my 🙁

[@QuirkyTJones]

It's so much truth to her saying that she didn't have the right look...and it's disgusting and so many black people are so lost in the sauce...

[@glowuplife]

Truth. Im told this constantly about my appearance. This hurts

[@QuirkyTJones]

@@glowuplife woooow

[@cashawnt84]

@@glowuplife You're beautiful.

[@jadanmiorke7378]

No she didn’t have the trademark, it’s about doing business, plenty of people don’t have the right look but they have their paperwork in order and with that there is nothing anyone can do to move them out of what they own

[@geocyo8835]

Yeah that's so sad. Tarana Burke didn't have the right look but even she got her shine.

[@luvburden5743]

I have learned to NOT think of all black women as your "sister" or "sista", some of theses black women are NOT for the black community, they are NOT for black women. My mother always taught me to deal with ppl base on character NOT color. If you believe that every black women is on "sista code." You will be shown wrong. Thanks Harriet for giving truth to light. I give you my respect.

[@j-s-m-rasmr5292]

This is everything!! I see an individual! I always tell my daughters don’t group people into categories! For your own sanity!!

[@TheOriginalCryptoPimp]

This applies to all black folks.

[@dariusd2003]

I'm so glad she mentioned Serena Williams. Black people love to act like bashing the Williams sisters wasn't a thing. Before social media with forums, you'd have white and black people bashing them for the looks. Those girls were teens/early adults. Now that their greatness can't be denied people want to jump on the band wagon.

[@Iamblessed12345]

dariusd2003 well said!!! I used to see it all the time on Facebook.

[@glowuplife]

Say this twice. Before Kim Kardashian, Serena made me proud of my divine back side

[@Kida001]

Serena Williams is still getting bashed by black people for her looks and her husband.

[@StATCWAv]

The Father the father alone made them who they are today you ungrateful bastards do not want to give the black man his credit!! And what is Serena go out and do Mary a white man wow!! 😮

[@braidedgirl757]

I love how she said the black men in her life are important but they can get it too if they disrespect and that her primary focus is on the black woman... This is the attitude we need to adopt ...you can definetely cherish the black men in your life but we need to put ourselves first.

[@faicasparks3212]

can i kickit It helps that they loved her and where supportive.

[@braidedgirl757]

@@faicasparks3212 definitely agree

[@dontatmeevr]

This is super interesting ..please make a series out of this. People don't understand history. The commodification of BW intellect and creativity is gross. I don't wear anything targeting my BW identity if i don't know the originator.

[@faicasparks3212]

elle z Thank God

[@birdi3beez]

That's a really good policy to have and I think I'll adopt that going forward.

[@DeeZeeTayy]

@@birdi3beez YESSS! A series of erased BW would be so nice. I honestly had no idea about any of this smh

[@aprilwhite5990]

elle z since last year I’ve purchased several “I Am One Dope Chick” branded items from Haus of Swag (a BW-owned company) after seeing Sunny Anderson wear a button on The Kitchen. Afterward I saw so much copycat merch from fraudulent retailers. So glad I found the originator first, as I will only buy from her.

[@zaichadanca1471]

This is similar to Claudette Colvin story. She refused to give up her seat on the bus and help initiate the bus boycott. Some civil right leaders believed that Claudette didn’t have the image so they created the movement around Rosa park. She was more respectful and “pretty”.

[@jamilabrownie]

Not that this takes away from what you’re trying to say, but Claudette was also a pregnant 15 year old and that wasn’t gonna fly in the 60s to have a civil rights movement started by an uneducated single mother. But the fact that Claudette still isn’t widely known now is messed up. I didn’t know about her until high school.

[@dopesexycool]

@@jamilabrownie it was disgustingly wrong then, and even moreso now. Respectability is anti-Black as ever. Shame on them all for that. She's better known now, as well as other Black women before Nana Rosa. There's a published book for Ms. Colvin as well.

[@moninaalphonse6209]

My teen daughter was asked to do a report on Rosa Parks, she did a report on Claudette Colvin instead

[@t.thompson8985]

Yup.

[@glowuplife]

@@moninaalphonse6209you sound like me. i recently told a group of middle schoolers about claudettes story as well. My older sister had told me about her when I was 9. It also is a lesson how critical public perception can be. Im the youngest elected official in my community in Miami. Though my sis is very smart and strategic, she is severely overweight and resides in Atlanta. She has struggled to win a seat though we have respectively been in new communities/cities we didn't grow up in

[@ottopotatum5775]

She is a non college grad single mom whose daughter went to college. She doesnt deserve cred for that?

[@SunnyIcedQueen]

That point bothered me so bad......but it shows more a lack of confidence at a tumultuous time rather than social status. All we black women need is a high level of self worth and support for one another.

[@malachimcknight4524]

It really does suck that she couldn’t secure “Black Girl Magic” or “Black Girls Are Magic.” As her own trademark and I wish she could pursue it!

[@JoyFay]

I have a feeling people implying she didn't come up with or wasn't the first person to use #blackgirlmagic, just don't want to give her due credit.

[@Kevin-rg3yc]

I always thought something was wrong with the new direction of the movement when i saw mixed race ambiguous lighter skin girls being the faces for it more. This was a great interview Kim glad to see you doing well 👍👍👍

[@tionnajohnson8430]

Just like the natural hair movement 😤

[@IMETGODSHEBLACK]

Kevin 5012 HELLO!!!! I said we not talking about yal Lol, the world doesn’t hate yal.

[@IMETGODSHEBLACK]

Tionna Johnson and exactly like the natural hair movement!

[@zoraxye4325]

You can always trust the biracials and their ilk to come out of the woodwork and take over anything that is aimed at BLACK women.

[@Kevin-rg3yc]

Zora Xye exactly but be quick to make movies and TV shows claiming dark skin black girls bullied them for being pretty and light skin and mixed like nah y’all are the real bullies lmaoooo

[@devilangel777]

We really need to talk about respectability politics. And why Cashawn wasn't the "Right kind of BW."

[@Kida001]

A tale as old as time. We need to break the cycle.

[@TheEnnovy345]

As a single mother, who came from the hood, now pursuing PhD in Genetics. I completely understand this message. I am embracing the belief that my broad spectrum of experience, no matter how much it is frowned upon, actually gives me an advantage. Shout to all black women who are making things happen despite the odds. Magic

[@cashawnt84]

🙏🏻🙌

[@selamgetu6564]

“It turned into a thing that actually alienated women like me.” Wow

[@MiniM69]

There is a purity and peace about the creation of something so beautiful without profit in mind. Shame on those people who purposely excluded her. I’m sorry I never sought out your name.

[@kennethiavail1719]

I love how she is eating during the interview like she’s talking to her homegirl 😂 sis is comfortable and I love this

[@wickedone5082]

Hoodie rat let's eat while we carry on a public conversation.

[@cvideo2847]

It is wonderful how you let your interviewees elaborate on their answers. Many interviewers jump to the next question, but you give time for them to really open up. I look forward to your interviews. ❤

[@brielax4441]

c video She has a peaceful ambiance and she’s articulate during her interviews.

[@tvdavis]

Yes! I normally cannot stand the online interview format because the host doesn’t let the guest TALK without constant interruptions (made even worse when trying to do it over the Internet). This was a breath of fresh air, being able to really get the full response from the guest.

[@justcallmeteacup4711]

Yes so true, she's great at it. I often find that most interviewers talk so much that there isn't room for the interviewees to go further than the basics

[@scarlet8078]

It brought tears to my eyes when she talked about what "Black Girl Magic" meant to her, saying it's magic how we saw our family cook up the ugly sweet potatoes into the best dish you ever tasted, & learning how to braid cornrows & seeing her mom getting ready to go out to the disco.

[@glowuplife]

*aunt went to the disco

[@tvdavis]

1. I had NO idea. 2. Why am I not surprised? 3. Lesson learned: You will NEVER get “given” credit for your creativity; they will readily tack it onto a “better” package & monetize the hell out of it.

[@zoraxye4325]

Facts.

[@akayla2398]

This phrase literally saved the image I held onto myself at the time. Puberty during the age of black men trashing my entire existence was hard but, Cashawn thank you for the impact you had on my life! Use this phrase to this day!

[@lindamoore9773]

Black feminism is a tradition! It's important to recognize our ancestors and welcome newcomers.

[@ER_Utube]

You need to know this: YOU ARE INTERVIEWING EXCELLENTLY! You’re not interrupting, you keep your “mhms” to a minimum, you know when to reserve your opinions to allow for the other person to expand their thoughts in a way that is authentic to their experiences... Girl. Yes. Some of these folks on whole networks could learn from you.

[@emmas9928]

Kim is excellent at interviewing her guests. Everything you said.

[@shinadevon4464]

I could not agree more! Kim is an amazing speaker but also a gifted listener!!

[@reclaimedandrested]

Thank you Cashawn for your contribution to black women's culture. S/O to a fellow DC girl. I grew up on the tail end of DC being a chocolate city.

[@zoraxye4325]

#CashawnThompson and #TaranaBurke are intellectual entrepreneurs and pioneers. Both have created empowering movements which challenged and continue to challenge the relentless denigration and assault against black women. (I am from the UK and I knew about both women from the beginning}. I even heard about "On Fleek" #PeachesMonroe early on too. Somebody decided that they don't have the right "look" to be the face of something THEY created. I find this morally reprehensible. They should all be loaded and flourishing on the strength of their inventions. Thank you for doing this interview Kim.

[@Yobydobie]

Just goes to show that it doesn’t matter WHAT “kind” of black girl you are, you. are. magic.

[@croys8608]

Yes we are magical!!! We rise.

[@SecretConceit]

Cashawn is so intelligent. ❤️ I hope she gets proper credit in the end.

[@lexBhere]

Same here.

[@dnh31tlg10too]

Thank you CaShawn for your beautiful gift: Black Girls are Magic. Hearing from you about your wish to remind us that we are magical, beautiful and worthy at a time of unrest and disgust. Thank you. Thank you Kim for educating me about the forgotten innovators of our movements.

[@lj9352]

Wow. This forum is important af.

[@beckykroogar7750]

Kim is 👌👌👌

[@MyWorld-xw6ic]

Lol when she said “they don’t wash they feet. They don’t wash their hands”. Hysterical because it’s so honest!

[@joyf801]

I've been trying to figure out what this part means.

[@cashawnt84]

I mean, they've been telling us for the last 6 months on Twitter. And I've worked in very intimate spaces with white folks for years. It's true.

[@j-s-m-rasmr5292]

I did not get it either!

[@manestreambeauty]

Kim, this is the type of work that sets you apart. I love your interviews, critiques and analysis. You are a gem.

[@cwill7153]

"America was built through black womens bodies..not on our backs"...Yesss, she had sooo many gems in this interview. This motivated me to go harder for myself and other black women. Thanks Cashawn cause black girls are magic❤❤ #BlackGirlMagic

[@MissTeabrown]

“America was built Through our bodies We deserve everything we want” Cashwan you are The gift we deserve. Thank you for giving us Black Girl Magic. Kim thank you for highlighting Cashwan and putting her right in the forefront where she should be.

[@mariahpalmer663]

To Cashawn, THANK YOU🙏🏽

[@ASMRShay]

This reminds me of something Joulzey had said about Jelilia (the young lady that create the renegade challenge) having the access to brand things like this. Not really having the knowledge or someone that could've given her access most certainly plays a role in her erasure.

[@lototheflo9640]

Brown Girl ASMR this!!!

[@grapesyrop]

you should say her name in the tittle

[@annholl1603]

Can you suggest a tittle?

[@annholl1603]

@@boybriar thank you! That sounds amazing. However, i feel like "creator" is a key word and for me personally, was what made me open the video and get to know Cashawn more. It seems like saying "the creator of the ______ movement" is more effective since her name is not known whereas the name of the movement is. Thats just me😄

[@grapesyrop]

@@annholl1603 idk withouut knowing her name we cant do much with that informatio. without knowing her social medias at least

[@grapesyrop]

Her twitter is MISS SHAWN

[@skytelle]

I agree. I forgot her name part way through the interview

[@natalieshepp641]

That's so messed up that other black women would participate in her Erasure!! That's so messed up. So sorry they did this to her. Glad she finally can speak her peace. Alot of these terms that started out with good intentions turn cliche, and get run into the ground!!

[@anony1596]

27:12 - REALLY spoke to me. My mom's kid sister and her bestfriend were magic to me when I was little too. I grew up in Brooklyn. I lived in East Flatbush and went to school in Bed-stuy. My neighborhood was predominately Caribbean but my school was significantly black American. *All black everything.* Then I got older, moved around white people, and got on the internet and saw colorism and misogynoir and it really got to me man.

[@Mariah203]

I was born and raised in Southeast Queens (Southside Jamaica and St. Albans) a super black area. My elementary school was so black I was in junior high when I found out Lift Every Voice and Sing wasn't the national anthem. I became aware of anti-blackness through BET, funny enough. I became keenly aware that only light skinned and mixed women were featured in most music videos smh.

[@anony1596]

@@Mariah203 Lift Every Voice and Sing at every school assembly. We even celebrated Sankofa as part of our yearly traditions in the school. My family moved to the suburbs of Atlanta and I truly experienced culture shock going to a predominately white school in the country.

[@Mariah203]

I loved when she said, "I am a cherished woman". Love to see a black woman be cherished, valued and loved upon.

[@crystalo8603]

You gotta copyright your stuff too. This happens to so many people. It sucks bc we lack resources and knowledge to protect ourselves and get ahead. And Beverly Bond is disgusting. I’m glad to know who the creator is and know what her purpose for the phrase is. It’s so important and absolutely EVERY black girl matters.

[@QuirkyTJones]

It's sad you have to go through that especially when she's just being genuine 😔😔😔

[@LyddieR]

Agreed about the Beverly Bond statement. She has always been a trash person to me. She is a snake.

[@TerryJulianLive]

youre a laywer now..

[@Mariah203]

According to the video, it seems a copyright only matters if you have the resources to constantly battle copyright infringement in court. If you don't have the funds to hire a lawyer and sue everytime you see your intellectual property on a t-shirt, hat, mug or whatever, a copyright is useless. Besides, her motivation behind the phrase wasn't money or a come up, she did it for the love.

[@crystalo8603]

Tracking The Market ???

[@ashbash0711]

With her not "having the right look" or being the "right kind" is the EXACT definition of #blackgirlmagic. Black women always get shi+ even by our own and we still find a way. Black women are phenomenal and very magical. Thank u Cashawn.

[@ariesmry]

1- She seems incredibly familiar and I have a strong sense that we have crossed paths. It’s hard for me to place her right now but I know it was through education. 2- Her thoughts and creativity is very valuable and impactful. I’m glad she is getting the credit due and I’m excited and supportive of any future projects she has

[@starcherry6814]

This is why we need black feminist 🙌 I LOVE their intellect!

[@faicasparks3212]

Star Cherry The term is Womenist. There are books on it.

[@petitepowerhouse7970]

@@faicasparks3212 not necessarily too. Some of most prominent theorists such as Angela Davis, bell hooks and Kimberlé Crenshaw describe themselves as feminist....

[@sjor3569]

Faica Sparks I don’t know, womenist is inherently intersectional. Black feminism deals with black womanhood and the struggles that come with it. So yes I think we need just black feminism.

[@ralindahs256]

It is so nice to learn the origins of this. I’ve found the phase to be so exclusive just because of the type of black woman it’s typically attached to including beautiful hyper confident, highly educated or successful black woman with flawless hair. To hear Cashawn say it was for all of us-and the sweet potato cornrow examples was just beautiful and pure. I loved the way she explained her intention and am saddened that she felt excluded from what she created because of respectability politics.

[@Grooviiscorner]

Does anyone know if she’s still making shirts? If she is I want them from the source🤎🖤

[@bobbuilder2356]

I just asked her. I'll let you know when she responds

[@bobbuilder2356]

She's thepbg on Twitter. She said she has a few shirts available but in select sizes.

[@msjasluv]

Bob Builder Do you know her IG?

[@bobbuilder2356]

I think it's the same as her Twitter

[@violettevbunni9508]

💯💯💯

[@jessyb2314]

Thank you for this interview. This breaks my heart I am a Black female IP attorney I have been trying to educate our community about the power of intellectual property. How not to wait until someone sees the value before you value it. We are so creative and amazing; we have to protect us. 😔

[@bellaroserela]

I'm so glad you did this video I did not know who started the black girl magic. THANK YOU SOOO Cashawn Thompson

[@Heyitsnicolecanyoutalk]

I love how she started eating in the middle of the interview. 🙌🏾

[@MakedaPhillips]

I've learned a lot of us can be hella classist. Black girl magic can't just be for black women you deem respectable.

[@mimicallsit7675]

“It turned into a thing that alienated me.” A word. Thank you for bringing this to us❤️

[@MsJdennis12]

When she said Black women had to become experts on everyone else to survive but they don’t really need to learn about us 😳POIGNANT AF. I stepped back and was like 🧐well damn...

[@ccampbelltmcf]

This women deserves her flowers now and I’m sooooo glad you’re using your platform to share her story. Totally changed by whole perception of the #BlackGirlMagic movement and what it was intended to do. Wonderful interview! Excellent! ❣️

[@glowuplife]

This is really good Kim. Amazing. I was just telling a sis (friend not kin) that the intellectual robbery of black women's creative presence exceeds the physical property that's being stolen

[@trentjohnson6333]

I want all the the black girls and women to know you are worthy,you are special, you are magic there is a light in you, you are allow to be human, you are worthy of love and be loved, there is nothing wrong with being imperfectly perfect, it's okay to be both strong and vulnerable, it's okay to stand up for yourself and fight, it's okay to be passionate you are phenomenal, you are beautiful, your skin is original, you are original, you are enough, you have a right to be seen and heard, your existence matters, your existence is important, you dont need the approval of others, you dont have to prove anything to anyone.

[@jarelanderson1787]

Trent Johnson I second that ❤️

[@trentjohnson6333]

@@jarelanderson1787 true dat 💕

[@nathalia_hfitness1681]

Amen!!!

[@trentjohnson6333]

@@nathalia_hfitness1681 indeed 💕

[@HerShe_]

Thank you ❤️

[@strawberryloli]

Love her vibe. So glad that you’re bringing her story to light.

[@half-bakedthot]

the way she described seeing the magic of the black women around her as a child was so beautiful

[@priestesstapes]

Cashawn Thompson is the authenticity I need in my everyday life.

[@classassignment3643]

Back in 2010, I was on the internet making stuff & coining terms, holding natural hair meetups in Brooklyn & my stuff took on other owners too. I bet there are a few of us that didn’t see this kind of commercial success based off of our genuine love for Black womanhood.

[@ThatGirlMoi]

Thank you for bringing visibility to this story, Kim. Please make a series out of this and other untold stories of black women's intellectual property!

[@legzz187]

Never knew her story. Thank you for this! X

[@NicknameAarie]

That description of a black woman getting ready....that is one of the best descriptions I've heard. Which makes sense because she created the saying. "Getting ready" covers everything from Michelle Obama becoming the First Lady to the little girl becoming who she's meant to be on the first day of kindergarten. I LOVE that. There is so much beauty and magic in becoming a black woman...in "getting ready". Especially because the process can be repeated as many times as necessary. We do can do all that! We have done all that. ❤️❤️❤️. Loving this conversation. I love her journey. The lessons she's learned. And where she'll go next

[@zoraxye4325]

The truth of this video HURTS my heart and soul.

[@DollyMat]

So insightful!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾thank you for shedding light on this 'hidden figure' may we never forget her name, Cashawn Thompson.

[@804smiles]

She jus said something that really still throws me! That there are people who don't love black women! Esp black men it always throws me off still!

[@TerryJulianLive]

black americans lead the way with 75% out of wedlock births. Those men are raised by black women. Go deal with it. stop complaining

[@aleka..]

@@TerryJulianLive go track markets or something, stop talking about things you know nothing about, your contribution to the conversation is zero

[@Jansheff2010]

Yes they really don’t, some don’t @Smiley Lightfoot you must not be online much. I’m not on here as much lately but when I was I saw a lot of hate against us on Facebook in particular

[@804smiles]

@@Jansheff2010 it jus confuses me how u can...let me jus say self hatred scares & confuses me. I sisnt have da best upbringing but it damn sure wasnt the worst & I could never hate sum1 who looks like me! Esp if u havent done anything 2 me! Smdh

[@Jansheff2010]

@@804smiles yeah it baffles me also

[@anonymousbee931]

Cashawn Thompson will never be erased. Let's uplift her on her creation by not forgetting her name and the magic she gave to us.

[@daniyahwebb2140]

Kim send this to all the youtubers so that we can get her out there. Say her name. Say her name. Say her name.

[@trinity9560]

Thank you for sharing this video! I’m 19 and am constantly coming to “epiphanies” about feminist politics that y’all have definitely known about for years😭 She just earned a fan in me! I hope to see her come to the forefront more.

[@trinity9560]

Also I go to school in DC, so I want her to come talk to us!

[@cashawnt84]

@@trinity9560 Y'all organize it and get a budget. I'll definitely come.

[@Daydreamroses]

thank you so much for highlighting her and giving her a platform to tell her truth. This was so amazing, a little sad, enlightening and empowering. I never wanted the video to end!! Thank you Kim and thank you Cashawn Thompson!!

[@paulyettafreeman2093]

"We deserve everything we want." 💛

[@glowuplife]

Period pooh!

[@1infoful]

I've seen the classism amongst our own Black women which disgusts me. I remember being at a conference and this Black woman had started (and hell yes, I'm going to name it and call it out) this group/business/elitist-classist whatever it was supposed to be called Black Women MBA. It only (unsaid, but you knew) wanted Black Women who attended Ivy League or those schools close to it entrance who attended these graduate programs. And they were featured in Essence, I think. What made me so angry was she never considered that as a disenfranchised group as Blacks already are, going to an accredited decent university or grad school IS an accomplishment in and of itself with all of the brokenness and trauma we have to overcome to begin with. Thanks for bringing this to light Kim for the great CaShawn. Yes, she is great.

[@zoraxye4325]

Unfortunately we do a sterling job of WRONGLY excluding and DISCRIMINATING against each other based on our social economic differentials. We know that black women are not one monolithic, homogenous group who care about each other, all across our glorious diversity. It would be REVOLUTIONARY if we made the INDIVIDUAL decision to ACTIVELY treat fellow black women (f everyone else!} with kindness and respect. Things would change OVERNIGHT.

[@NomNomGirl1]

This is another reason you need to trademark EVERYTHING and it’s NEVER to late to trademark

[@ajaimani]

This was a great video! I never knew she was the creator of the phrase. Respectability politics continues to permeate through our community and I would love more conversations about the topic. Thank you for all you do! ☺️

[@ReadLoveListen]

Wow, I am in the beginning of the interview but it sucks that she feels left out of a movement that she started. This reminds me of how the natural hair movement was started by women with type 4 hair and how it evolved to mostly have biracial/mixed/multi-ethnic and hair type 2 & 3 women at the forefront. I hope that she gets it trademarked or copyrighted.

[@qvirusmonkey]

This conversation is interesting because I've always resisted the phrase "black girl magic" because I feel like it fits into a narrative that black women having to be extraordinary in order to be worthy of love and praise. I'm not feeling magical and I don't want to be a super hero in order to be regarded in a positive light.

[@cashawnt84]

I have something you could read in regards to that. I wrote it.

[@houseofallena5953]

But you are extraordinary! :-) God made you and you are a Goddess

[@VenusianVirgo]

This was such a great conversation. I love her and I want to see her more places. Her outlook is exactly how we should be thinking if we really want black people to be great. Every interview you've done has been so easy for me to watch. Not awkward or forced feeling. You can tell that the people you are interviewing really feel comfortable.

[@kkelseym]

It's interesting that one of the criticisms of this term is it feeds into the "strong black women" stereotype but y'all erased the original purpose of it, it's meant to empower ALL black women. But people erased it so it's only pretty skinny, black women with degrees or at the top of their career. People are arguing with an imaginary issue, they changed it from its origin.

[@laprincesse9312]

ooooh that makes sense now. i see it now wow

[@jinx724]

I'm so mad she was erased especially because she is an AUNTIE to the fullest. She lives and breathe what black girl magic should be. You should be able to tell that she lives and breathes that message I literally wanted to cry just feeling all the love she has for us. She is the woman I aspire to be so loving and supportive of black women. Period. Not all women BLACK women because we need it

[@organicsoulfoodways2100]

Snaps for “Now in 2020, everything is a product” including COVID response and recovery

[@MouhamadouBDiagne]

I think this is some of your best work. Congratulations!

[@glowuplife]

Agreed

[@divineapology818]

I really appreciated this segment. I'm glad she reminded me of how cherished Black was back in the day (amongst our culture). Made me nostalgic. Terms like "good hair" and "light-skinned were talked about, but they weren't weaponized against BW. While 90s culture wasn't everything, we still had pride in our culture...even Shenikaquan was Black girl magic.

[@ashablack2291]

Naomi Campbell was voted most perfect woman in the world then a few weeks later that report about us being scientifically the most unattractive. Considering the diversity within our genetic this scientifically made no sense.

[@glowuplife]

Say this twice siis!!

[@saeon4427]

Lol this cracks me up I've seen so many beautiful black women around the world and I'm wondering who ugly ,they nkow black women aren't ugly 🙄 they're not stupid ,their reports are just majorly based on being racist and prejudice and tbh I don't why black women look up to shit like 😂😂😂😂 people say wat they wanna say to make themselves feel better , humans have fragile egos instead of building their self esteem from within they'd rather tear down someone else

[@viergelalouidor4163]

THIS is exactly why I'm pursuing IP. This has been going on for decades and it's just wack. Thanks for doing this work Kimberly. We appreciate you!

[@chianap.1743]

My advice: Use this down time to reclaim your time. Do your research or whatever you have to do. Great interview

[@bunnibunni616]

Miss Shawn YOU will be on my personal list of women my future daughter(s) WILL know about! YOU are just as admirable and iconic as the rest!!! 👩🏾‍🎤 🖤🖤

[@SianLondon]

How could anyone dislike this? This was incredible as always Kim, thanks for bringing this to our attention. I had no idea who created it.

[@joyglass121]

This is such a wonderful interview, so uplifting. Learning she is like me, an everyday woman, who created something so powerful. Such an inspiration. Thank you both!

[@VictoriaWhitlock]

I feel like twitter made me go through all the black women stages. If I'm being honest, I laughed at the black women jokes in the beginning of high school because I thought "they didn't apply to me." And then became super woke in the middle of high school, but got exhausted by the end of high school. Now I'm chillin and trying to be the best I can be as a person who is about to graduate college and enter the real world.

[@sherrelgreene3195]

Being a black woman we are so diverse, but get judged so much . I feel everything this Sister is saying.

[@itsQueMajor]

“I wanted it to belong to everybody...”

[@WellDamn24]

I love her irreverence towards White folks. I don’t hate White folks, but I certainly won’t give extra credence or consideration to someone because of their skin color. And I’m tired of us building the White case for why we can’t do something before we even try to do it!

[@lachapellelover]

this interview is so powerful. I definitely didn't know she was the creator but I'll never forget it

[@mademoisellesade5860]

Great interview and I really hope it can go viral. What stood out for me as a Literature, Language and Communications studies prof was how she described the African oral tradition without using the terminology. Also, the positive and "magical" affects of her family's "story telling" traditions had on her. At the root of it, story telling aka the oral tradition is inherently African. The African Griot is a story teller and this is where our peoples' ability to tell stories in the way we can comes from. Another aspect of the terminology "magic" specifically "black magic" which is has been demonised in movies in western culture but again an inherent part of African culture. I could go on and on. What I hope is that she can compile all her interviews and get out there and do more. I don't know how but don't let the erasure continue especially since you have proof and you also have a young educated daughter(s), this is their legacy. Snatch it back.

[@cashawnt84]

Thank you so much. I may not not all the terminology but I know my history and I know my people. I am writing my descendants' future with every breath I breathe.

[@Jurnee2me]

I had no idea she created Black Girl Magic. Love this interview 😍

[@IMETGODSHEBLACK]

Shout out to our Aunty CaShawn for her vulnerability/honesty! This interview was so refreshing because of her amazing attitude and politics that helped her coin the term!