How To Add an Electrical Outlet | Move Outlet Up Wall | Wall Mounted TV | Hide Wires Easy!!

[@catholicfemininity2126]

Heard this from another commenter. 1) In many places it’s against code to have an outlet in a clothes closet. 2) Do not drill a hole in the back of a device box. You need to have proper strain relief. 3) Don’t use push ins on the back of a receptacle. Use the screws. They’re way less prone to failure which can cause a fire. 4) Don’t put 2 wires on one screw like he did with the ground wires. Pigtail them and land 1 wire. 5) Strip more jacket off the wire. Leaving 3-4” in the box just takes up space. 6) Shut the damn power off BEFORE you start.

[@FortKnoxCo]

All very good info. You should always Shut off the the power before doing any electrical work. And codes do vary depending on where you live obviously. It’s very common to have an outlet in the closets out here, depending on your builder and style of house it may even be part of the original build. Thank you for commenting ! I appreciate it.. Always learning

[@oringreen1097]

Can you do a video on running a tv cable wire in the wall👊🏻

[@FortKnoxCo]

Yep. That would be a very similar process. You Can use drywall old work boxes to trim out the opening there you want it to come out. they have several designs for cables to be pulled out through the wall. Or if you want to have a plug where you screw it into the plate on the wall you can do that too. Just depends on how you want it to look when it’s finished

[@TheJmp1987]

Damn.. ima bout to be a KZbin electrician 🔥 I’ve always told ppl this platform taught me manhood 😂

[@FortKnoxCo]

You can pretty much learn anything on KZbin now a days. And there’s even videos about how to do KZbin.

[@timmilgram]

Is there no ground wire for the new one that was added?

[@FortKnoxCo]

There is. It’s just the bare copper wire like the other one in the original outlet. The new outlet wires up exactly like the others. And the wires you run up to the new one are the same that are in the wall. One black,one white and one bare copper(ground)

[@nameismarshall]

Nice video. Clear and easy instructions. Hope you keep making more videos, KZbin needs guys like you!

[@FortKnoxCo]

Thanks man. I really appreciate the kind words. I plan on putting out more videos and trying to grow the channel for sure 🤙🏼

[@dennisstull6558]

What do you do with fire breaks / fire blocks?

[@FortKnoxCo]

With fire blocks in the wall your going to have to make a small cut in the drywall and drill a hole as close to the center of the blocking and pass the wire up through. This is commonly done and almost always expected when passing wires up or across to new locations. 100% doable but just requires a couple extra steps and some drywall repair

[@yuliyahealion5210]

loved the straight the point instructions and explaining how to work around all those small complications along the way. I noticed you used the yellow wire and I assume they are pretty standard, but how exactly do I choose the right one - seems there are many options available 12/2,14/2 etc- what kind/model/type of the wire to use for this kind of a job ? thx

[@FortKnoxCo]

Thank you! I appreciate it! Usually it’s the yellow 12/2 wire in the wall for outlets and the white 14/2 for electrical in the ceiling/lighting. 12/2 is a slightly thicker solid core wire to carry a heavier power load from an outlet/appliance that might be plugged in. The 14/2 is slightly smaller and usually carry’s the load of power for a lighting fixture.

[@howtoo3720]

Also consider subscribing to my other channel How Too, I'll be doing very similar content but only DIY How To content and no fluff, straight to the point instructions.

[@anthonymarino1377]

I just watched a video before yours and was majorly confused. You explained everything so in depth and nicely. Thank you!

[@FortKnoxCo]

That makes me happy to hear. Thank you for watching. If you haven’t already please subscribe to my channel. I’m coming out with all kinds of new videos on different things.

[@achen0122]

Thanks for this video, never knew about “old work” gang boxes, I think it will help a lot with way my project of adding an exterior outlet off an interior one at a vastly different height.

[@FortKnoxCo]

No problem at all. Yeah the old work boxes are a lifesaver. Once you start doing any electrical work, you learn very quickly about new work and old work boxes. Lol. Literally almost every renovation with electrical you’re gonna need one of these. Then once you understand how they can work, you can use your imagination and create your own path. The next step is learning how to jump across studs or corners.

[@sujantulachan288]

What about the amp of the wire and stuff? Someone told me that it might blow circuit. I am confused. Can you please help with my confusion? I was told that the lesser the number higher the amp. like If I use 10/2 will that cause blowout?

[@FortKnoxCo]

The wire in the wall supplying power will most likely be a 12/2 ( yellow casing) with your black, white and bare ground. The power coming off the transformer is a very small gauge, usually an 18 gauge / bell wire / low voltage. It can handle the voltage/amperage coming off the transformer. It’s downgrading the power source essentially and giving you enough but not too much for that doorbell

[@ckwcfm]

Thx. Any reason you need to remove the old box instead of just try to run new wire through it?

[@FortKnoxCo]

Removing the old box is technically the correct way to do it. Unless you want to use one of the holes in the back of the original box. You can do that but you’ll probably realize the pulling or running wire through it will be a hassle and could take more time than just removing the box, having lots of space to work with and installing an “old work” box

[@starstart23]

Nice! Right to the point. Detailed with no unnecessary info. Thanks

[@FortKnoxCo]

I appreciate that. I try to be informative without a bunch of bs. 🤙🏼🤙🏼

[@surfdude7575]

Perfect! I’m gonna use your method of extending power up my wall in entertainment center for our wall mounted to. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks man! 👍

[@FortKnoxCo]

Awesome!! We’ve used this for wall mounted TVs several times

[@bobbysifuentes]

Thank you! With these lessons you literally saved me a few hundred dollars!

[@FortKnoxCo]

That’s awesome to hear! So glad I could be of help!

[@normajeanhinkson8025]

what do you do if you don't want to use the lower outlet anymore? I need to add a range hood outlet and the outlet directly below isn't going to be used anymore since the range will be under it.

[@FortKnoxCo]

You can just connect the new wires your running up to the new box and not have them connected to the old outlet. Black to black, white to white and ground to ground. Use the wire caps and tuck them in the box in the original location that is not going to be used. This basically is just extending the wires up to your new location. Like splicing wires to make them longer. Then you can just use a blank outlet box plate to cover the box with the wires in it. You’re technically not supposed to drywall over any spots where a wire connection is made so it’s best to just use a blank box plate.

[@Oneklickmedia]

Thanks. Doing exact same thing for my cameras in bedroom as well so this is perfect. Guess I can add the two tv wall Mount while I’m at it haha

[@FortKnoxCo]

Yep! Exactly. I just did one for our tv in the spare room. I used a different method where you don’t have to remove the original box this time. I’ll be putting the video together for it here this coming week

[@tommy_tabz]

Was it necessary to remove the old box or just preference?

[@FortKnoxCo]

That’s the “correct” way. Remove the old box and install the new “old work” box. Mainly so you have good access to your wires and can run all new wires through the holes in the back of the box. But if you want to, you can technically use the box that’s there, but the correct way is to run your wires through the back holes provided. So doing that on an original box already in the wall can be a pain sometimes, spending much more time fiddling with the origin box, so most just zip out the old box and install a new one and have lots of room to move things around and work inside the wall. Running your new wire is much easier when that lid box is removed.

[@flightgamer7849]

Awesome video. Any tips if there is a horizontal stud?

[@FortKnoxCo]

That’s very common. It’s usually a fire block or simply just a brace between studs to strengthen the wall. Usually your going to have to do a little drywall work to get past it. A hole next to the horizontal piece big enough to drill a small hole in the wood and pass the wire through. You can also make a “pumpkin” cut in the drywall next to the horizontal piece. It helps with less drywall work needed. But the usual process is having to get access into the wall=drywall work.

[@flightgamer7849]

@@FortKnoxCo Ok then, thx a lot.

[@KevinSanchez-og9bv]

That outlet you put up higher does It have power on both plugs in or just one Cause I just saw you run one set to the outlets higher up?

[@FortKnoxCo]

It has power to both plugs. All outlets come with a connected terminal on each side. So when you connect one hot wire and one neutral wire to the sides it makes both plugs Live. There’s a small tab that joins the two. In cases where you want only one to be live or one to be controlled by a switch and one to be live all the time, you break that small tab off and it makes each plug/terminal independent.

[@KevinSanchez-og9bv]

@@FortKnoxCo ahh ok thanks for the reply

[@joeycrack4294]

I just watched your video and yes you make it look easy as well as your commentary. I will do my install job your way. Thanks

[@FortKnoxCo]

That’s awesome! I appreciate that. You should definitely try it yourself and you’ll learn along the way. The next project will be easier and you’ll build your skill level. 🤙🏼🤙🏼 Just make sure the power is off to that circuit.

[@mrhaths]

can you link the thing you checked for the power?

[@FortKnoxCo]

Just added it. Should be under tools used. Circuit tester and multi meter.

[@mrhaths]

thanks!! @@FortKnoxCo

[@FortKnoxCo]

@@mrhaths no problem at all

[@danhoskins5345]

I have a question so the original outlet closest to the floor. Does it still work to? I didn't see you put a blank cover over it.

[@FortKnoxCo]

I wired back in the original outlet down by the floor and it will work as usual. This is just branching off that in a daisy chain to power the one above it as well. You can just connect the wires in the bottom/original location down by the floor and put a blank cover over it if you don’t want/need an outlet there. But most just keep the outlet low and high

[@kristycatrett4019]

Thanks for the clear and easy explanation!

[@FortKnoxCo]

Your very welcome

[@alexandredantas89]

Nice video man, u have some video to move/install in horizontal and not vertical?

[@FortKnoxCo]

I’ll be making a idea about how to cross studs and different methods to use depending on how much drywall work you want to do.

[@LauraMartinez-yg8td]

Can a third outlet be installed higher up in the wall? My wifi router is currently sitting on a shelf above my tv for better signal throughout the house but the power cord is too short. Tv already has an outlet behind it but I need a third socket to make this happen

[@FortKnoxCo]

Technically yes. You can branch up power to another location. I just wouldn’t put anything big like an appliance/blender/microwave on it. You are adding outlets to an existing circuit and you don’t want too many on each circuit. But adding a couple for things like tv or router shouldn’t be any problem.

[@FernandoRodriguez-ds5ri]

Kinda what I want to do except I want to cancel the bottom outlet and move it up. How would I do that can I just wirenut the ends together at the old box then fish new wire up to a new box and make my connections to the new outlet?

[@FortKnoxCo]

Yes that’s pretty much how that would work. I have a video showing exactly that. It’s about a year old so it down in my library of videos if you search for it. But I moved an outlet up the wall. Just instead of keeping the original outlet wired in you could connect the wires and put a blank plate over the old box and just use the new one.

[@poundermonster]

Great video! What are the chances there is a stud sideways that will block the wire as it’s going down tours the bottom?

[@FortKnoxCo]

I’d say it’s about 50/50. Just depends on where you live and what code requires. And who the builder was. Exterior walls have them usually as fire blocks and to help strengthen/stabilize the wall. Interior walls are hit and miss. I usually run a stud finder up and down the path to check before I cut. That way I can plan ahead

[@poundermonster]

@@FortKnoxCo Thank you so much, great video.

[@josht617]

Can I just wire nut the wires together on the old bottom socket? I’m raising it because it’s going to be covered with cabinets so there’s no point in having an outlet on the bottom one.

[@FortKnoxCo]

Yes you can just eliminate the bottom outlet and connect the wires with a nut/cap. You don’t have to keep the outlet there. A lot of people do just that because the original outlet isn’t needed and they just want a new location for the outlet.

[@josht617]

@@FortKnoxCo you the man. Thank you. I’ll be attempting this Thursday and I’ll let you know how it goes

[@FortKnoxCo]

@@josht617 no problem at all. Keep me posted. I have another video Im putting out that I just recently did where I do basically the same thing but without removing the original box. I leave it in place and run the wires through the old box. Should hopefully have it posted within the next week

[@josht617]

@@FortKnoxCo ​ It worked out GREAT! My wires came from the attic so I was able to skip A LOT of steps haha. The only thing that seems off is that the plate sticks out the wall a little bit. I noticed you had some secondary plate that I’d imagine fixed this issue

[@FortKnoxCo]

@@josht617 that’s awesome to hear. Yeah I usually use an updated face plate and they are usually larger and may lay a little more flat along the wall. If it still sticks out try adjusting the outlet itself back into the box a little more so when you install the face plate it pulls the plate back too

[@frankcastle6298]

what if I don't have a center outlet to work from? My problem is the closest outlets are both on the left and right sides about 4 ft apart from where I want the center outlet to be. I want a outlet up the middle of the wall behind a mounted tv

[@FortKnoxCo]

It will be a lot of the same process overall except to move the wire across a couple studs in the wall you will have to make a couple small cuts in the drywall. There’s several ways to accomplish this. There’s a “pumpkin cut” that helps reduce the amount of patching you’ll need to do, or just a traditional rectangle hole next to the studs, pop it out, drill a small hole through the stud to fish the wire through and repeat that, then when you have it in the location centered you can fish it straight up to the final location. Then you have to patch the small cuts you made.

[@tsabowski]

You didn't really put 2 wires under the same screw? Good way to burn your house down. Put all the hots together with a Wago push wire connector with a pigtail going to receptacle. Then do the same for the neutrals and the grounds.

[@FortKnoxCo]

Yeah I’ve corrected that since and mentioned it in other videos. At the time I made this video and edited it later that was the only footage I had of the initial install.

[@jacobconstante8288]

@@FortKnoxCo how did you fix it?

[@FortKnoxCo]

@@jacobconstante8288 if you are referring to fixing putting two wires under one screw, what are you do is you take the wires together and bind them together under a cap and then you have one wire coming out from that bundle that goes to the outlet. They called this pig tailing. It reduces how many wires are actually going out towards the outlet and you can combine them all under a cap and have one just coming out to the outlet. It just cleaned it up a little bit and allows you to still get good connections and have your good contact at the outlet without overloading it with a bunch of wires.

[@thekingdomofbaddecisions7982]

How well do those boxes work with lath and plaster walls?

[@jennifersanchez7647]

This was exactly what I was looking for! Didn't want to spend $65 for a kit, so much more affordable!

[@FortKnoxCo]

Yeah!! Way affordable for sure. And really not too hard. Glad you like the video.

[@Charles-ip6qp]

A question. I have an existing outdoor ornamental pole lamp with 3 lights. How can I install a dawn to dusk light sensor?

[@FortKnoxCo]

There’s a couple ways you can install one. Either on the log post itself, get access at some place on the post and the wires and install the sensor in line with the power coming to the lights and then drill a small hole for the sensor to stick out of the post housing and install it that way, very similar to how some light fixtures are made. You’d just be doing it yourself, but it’s very common to have the sensor somewhere on the fixture itself. The other way would be installing the sensor on or near the house/switch. So if the switch is left ON the sensor again will be in line to the lights and will open or close the circuit depending on how much day light there is. A lot of houses have these sensors installed up high by the roof eves and controls the exterior house lights. I have a video on my channel showing this and there’s a link for the sensor on Amazon in my video details as well.

[@linbax697]

I’m working on this project now but the light switch I’m piggy backing off of has a ground, white, black and red. The wire I’m running to the tv mount outlet only has ground, white and black. Can i run just those wires and ignore the red without a problem?

[@FortKnoxCo]

Yes. The red is basically another black (hot wire). The white acts and a neutral for both. Using the black/white/ground for the next switch will be fine and just like a regular circuit. Usually when there is a red it’s controlled by switch or in addition to the black. Like two switches that control two functions in the ceiling. I have a diagram showing all this in my other video where I’m running wires through the ceiling. Might help visually show what’s going on

[@linbax697]

@@FortKnoxCo Thank you. Will check out the video too. Appreciate your help!

[@RioElMystic-999]

How did you find the old wires and put them up there? I May have missed the step. Either way, you've definitely educated me a lot on this more than any other video that has led me to more confusion lol

[@FortKnoxCo]

Thank you I appreciate that. Are you referring to the wires in the original outlet that I branched off of to extend up? Once you pull out the original outlet you basically branch off those wires to run a new set of black/white/ground up to the new location. Just by tying the new black/white/ground off of the original ones in the back of the outlet in the wall that we started with. This just creates a series of outlets or commonly referred to as a “daisy chain” connection.

[@RioElMystic-999]

Wow! Now I get it. You explained it perfectly. Thank you very much. I'm no electrician but I mount TVs for a living so power bridge is something that I definitely have to overcome and learn. And buying the kit is definitely not cost effective enough so your method is perfect. I'll do my first job in my own home and see how it goes. Thank you for your valuable help and knowledge

[@FortKnoxCo]

@@RioElMystic-999 awesome! No problem at all. I’m happy to be of help. & yeah if you can start to offer this as part of your service you could kill it. Increased revenue and people will appreciate it. You can definitely save on your costs by doing this the right way with the old work boxes and some new wires installed. Way cheaper and technically better than the kits they sell. Stepping your game up and crushing the market.

[@menguyen89]

Is it safe to wire the lower receptacle and continue to use it?

[@FortKnoxCo]

Yes. That is how most of your outlets in your home are probably wired. They are linked together. Sometimes up to 10 outlets are all wired in a chain.

[@TheVibralux]

Maybe a future note. When you have 2+ sets of solid wire in a box.. try twisting the outlet with the wires landed 1 full twist then push your wires in. It helps confine the wiring in a tighter grouping so when you push the wires in it can assist with fitting the outlet back in place correctly.

[@FortKnoxCo]

That’s an awesome idea. Hadn’t thought of that.

[@TheVibralux]

@@FortKnoxCo have used it many times throughout the career. Sometimes can be finicky but most of the time it works out. 👌

[@dc5duben96]

good tip!

[@faradpack]

@@TheVibralux a video or picture would be nice. PS. Did he have to sets of hot wire come from the ceiling for one outlet??

[@Mo-P]

Are you allowed to put two wires on screw? I thought you were supposed to make a pigtail and connect that way.

[@FortKnoxCo]

You should pigtail the wires and just have one wire coming off each. Shouldn’t double under a screw

[@CookingWithKhonKhao]

I want to try this method to move a floor height outlet to counter height. Then the floor height outlet will be covered by new base cabinets. Since it’s not safe to have an outlet behind a cabinet…how can I achieve this while permanently capping the floor height outlet?

[@FortKnoxCo]

You can do this method but instead of keeping the outlet at floor height you just connect the new wires to the original wires, essentially splicing a length of new wire up to your new location. In that floor height box you will have wire caps on each of those connections and you won’t be installing the old outlet, you’ll just tuck those wire connection into the box and place a flat junction box plate over. That way they aren’t sealed into the wall, you technically still have access to them. With the new wires running up to your location you can wire in your outlet as you would. It’s up to you if you want to cut a small square into the back of your cabinet over the old location to access the flat plate cover or not. Just incase you ever need to work on the wire connection.

[@CookingWithKhonKhao]

@@FortKnoxCo This is so helpful! Thank you!

[@FortKnoxCo]

@@CookingWithKhonKhao I also have a video “how to add and outlet to an existing circuit” where I do similar to what your saying, outlet under a countertop in a cabinet and I moved electrical down into the cabinet. Either way the process is very similar. Just depends on how you want to finish the project. Have two outlets , one in the cabinet & one above the counter top. Or put a plate over the connection down below and only use the outlet above.

[@TheCreativeComposer]

Great video !! small question: how did you get the phishing tape down to exactly where your previous socket was, especially when there was insulation?

[@FortKnoxCo]

That exactly why the fishing tape is so helpful. It’s rigid a d can push past or through insulation if need be. But it’s really easy when working with a wall because you can start the fishing tape along the stud or drywall and keep it pressed to the hard surface and it should slide right along down unobstructed.

[@TheCreativeComposer]

@@FortKnoxCo Hey, thanks for the quick reply. So would the 2 outlets need to be right one below the other exactly in same vertical line for the phishing tape to work?

[@FortKnoxCo]

@@TheCreativeComposer for the fishing tape to work in the way I described , yes. There wouldn’t be any hard obstructions. You can use a fishing tape through studs or other things like conduit or pipe but you would just need some type of access to the hole. I’ve fed it through a hole in a stud that I first drilled, then ran my tape a pulled the wire through

[@TheCreativeComposer]

@@FortKnoxCo sorry for another clarification but my question was not about obstruction but more about how to navigate the phishing tape diagonally in case I have to traverse from one outlet diagonally to another without looking at it(assuming no obstruction other than insulation) but the outlets are at random location, not exactly below one other.

[@FortKnoxCo]

@@TheCreativeComposer no worries. The fishing tape has a plastic diamond shaped end usually and that helps with piercing through stuff like insulation if you can’t get it to run along a hard surface for guidance. It will probably take a few try’s most likely because the tape won’t always travel exactly straight each time. You can also get a rigid fishing tape or fishing stick, they are usually made of a flexible fiberglass and connect together in 1-2’ lengths. When needing to go in a straight line from one point to another or long straight distances people will sometimes use the rods.

[@carlosjr4386]

I didn't know this was so doable on my own. Greatly appreciate this video!! You've made a subscriber out of me!! Thanks again

[@FortKnoxCo]

Awesome thank you! I really appreciate it! This is definitely doable and can be done with minimal tools. And even if you bought tools to do the job, doing it yourself would pay for what you didn’t spend on having a handyman come out.

[@Me-gf5ym]

Do you have a polyethylene vapor barrier between studs and drywall on your above grade exterior walls, to prevent condensation damage? If you do and the work penetrated this seal you would need to repair that leak before installing the new boxes. That would be a code requirement in many northern locations today.

[@FortKnoxCo]

Here in Las Vegas we do not. But this video is mostly to show how you can easily branch up or off of an existing circuit to add one where you need it.

[@Bagman2310]

Instead of having the outlet at the bottom, could you just cap the old and new wires together?

[@FortKnoxCo]

Yep. You can do that too if you don’t need or want the old outlet. You’d then just put a blank outlet cover over the old box. Technically you are not supposed to cover and hide wire connections in the walls, like drywalling over it after you splice the wires to the new. You need to be able to access anywhere there is connections. But yep, I’ve don’t this method as well.

[@zJOSEPHc]

Would it be possible to just pull the existing wire up to the new whole and just move the outlet all together, instead of adding one? And then just blank face plate the bottom?

[@FortKnoxCo]

You don’t have to wire back in an outlet in the original box. It’s just preference. But either way you will need to run new wires up to the new location and connect those to the original Wires. The original wires won’t be long enough to pull up. There’s no slack in the wall. So you will be branching up or extending the line. You just connect the wires according to their matching colors and then put a blank plate on it. I’ve done this many times because the home owner didn’t need the old plug to be a plug.

[@RoBrendaLee09]

Question here. It does really matter how many outlets you connect to one? I’m trying to put a light socket up high but I’m scared that it will be too much for the bottom outlet if that makes sense?

[@FortKnoxCo]

I does matter in the long run. But usually it’s all dependent upon code in your local area. Most places don’t allow more than 10 outlets on one circuit. How they are linked together or branched off of wouldn’t really matter, it’s just having too many on one breaker COULD be a bad thing. Imaging having 10 outlets and all 10 being used at the same time ? That’s be worst case scenario and code allows that as a possibility and considers it still “safe”. So if you add one here to branch up it’s usually not a problem at all. I just wouldn’t go adding 2-3-4 more outlets and not consider adding a new line all together at that point. But 1 extra I wouldn’t worry about.

[@johnlange8729]

LOh you have much more patience than I do. I would have sawzall'd a 4' x 4' opening to get that box out.

[@FortKnoxCo]

Haha. Yeah it takes patience for sure.

[@desmondmarshall7384]

Awesome tutorial!! I have a wall mount TV and want to move the outlet up on the wall behind the TV hidden. Do I still have to tie in and use the original lower outlet? Or can I tie in to the old wires without the old lower outlet, and just use new outlet where I want higher up? I know how to do drywall repairs and installation.

[@FortKnoxCo]

You do not need to meet the outlet in the lower box if you don’t want to. Just tie the wires to the new ones going up. The box just acts as a junction/splice point now. You should not cover it up with drywall though. It’s against code and could be a fire hazard. Anytime your splice or branch off a wire you need to have access to it. So I’d just branch up to the new box and use a blank cover plate for the old box. I do that on ones I don’t want to keep the outlet in.

[@FortKnoxCo]

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[@desmondmarshall7384]

@@FortKnoxCo Great, I will bypass the lower outlet and splice at the new upper outlet sounds much easier. Also thank you for the great tip on using a blank plate instead of drywalling. I will keep that in mind for further projects.

[@desmondmarshall7384]

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[@FortKnoxCo]

Awesome!! Much appreciated 🤙🏼

[@UFCyaLATERR]

If i want to get rid of the lower outlet completely, and just move it up the wall, and change it from a 2plug outlet to a 4plug outlet, do i need to add more wires? If so, how would i do that? Lol Or can i just cut the new hole, pull the wires up, cut them to size, and wire them in? Asking because theres an outlet where im adding cabinets and want to move it up the wall above the new countertop. Sorry for the long comment! Lol

[@FortKnoxCo]

You can definitely just add an outlet above the old one. You just don’t have to wire in the old one once you extend the wires up. But you will need to connect new wires simply extending those wires up the wall to the new location. And then put a blank flat plate cover over the old box. That old box where the old outlet was needs to still have access per code. You do not want to drywall over the old box where you extended the wires if there’s going to be any connections there. I’m assuming you’re gonna have to extend those wires up therefore you’ll have some type of connection in that original box. I’ve done this for the same reason and we moved the outlet up from behind a new cabinet and into the backsplash area.

[@UFCyaLATERR]

@@FortKnoxCo Thanks alot mate! Appreciate it

[@fpineda101]

Nice job with all the detail

[@FortKnoxCo]

Thank you!!

[@baratp298]

Hi Did you need to get a permit to run the wiring?

[@FortKnoxCo]

The short answer is No. You usually don’t need permits for this type of stuff. Granted it needs to be done correctly, but for the movement of a plug or addition of a plug there isn’t a permit for it. You’d just be told to hire someone qualified who licensed and bonded. It also depends on where your at and local ordinances. But usually permits are required when making something like structural changes.

[@rosepawlenty6737]

Thank you! This was super helpful and will def come back here for more DIY help!

[@FortKnoxCo]

Thank you I appreciate it!

[@nickhorton785]

I need to move an outlet up a few feet. Do you still need two boxes to encapsulate the wiring splice at the lower junction for safety, or just splice the wiring with connectors?

[@FortKnoxCo]

You should always use a junction box for any wire splicing or connection. And then obviously a box for any outlet or fixture. It’s code and also helps prevent the fire hazard.

[@Weekbrownies]

is it code to put 2 wires on one terminal?

[@FortKnoxCo]

I don’t believe so.

[@Weekbrownies]

@@FortKnoxCo I researched it and don't believe it is, the code was along the lines of if the instructions for the outlet don't say you can do that, then it's a violation.

[@FortKnoxCo]

@@Weekbrownies that sounds correct.

[@Weekbrownies]

@@FortKnoxCo I just pulled one of my outlets, it was wired like yours, 2 wires on one terminal, home built new in 2009 only owner

[@FortKnoxCo]

@@Weekbrownies hmmm. Yeah I don’t think it was technically a wrong way to do it. But over the years they have “better” ways or safer ways. 99% of the time it’s probably safe. But the standards go up I guess. I’ve heard that if you have too many wires on one screw, they worry about it coming loose or having some type of fault or spark. But then, when you pigtail everything, I feel like it creates a bigger jam of wires in that box and could be a hazard? I don’t know. I just follow the rules. Lol.

[@asdquet]

Why did you remove the old box instead of just adding a wire to it from the outlet above?

[@FortKnoxCo]

You can do what you said, throw a new line up through the original box with Fishing tape. But there’s a couple ways to accomplish the task. If for some reason you need more room to work or want to upgrade size/type of box this method Is an option. Both ways work though.

[@deannawalker7022]

What if you have cross supports in the wall?

[@FortKnoxCo]

Sometimes the are turned sideways to allow passage on one side or the other. But if it’s a full “fire block” You would have to cut a small hole or a “pumpkin” cut and drill a hole through the cross support and then feed the wire through the support and up to the finish location. It’s just another hole you need to make in the drywall and patch.

[@justsaynotomen9902]

Thanks so much. This was very informative and I am comfortable attempting this now. ❤️

[@FortKnoxCo]

That’s so awesome to hear! Thank you!

[@drewcrowell8042]

Thanks, I was doing this and got stuck and decided to check university of KZbin and found your video. You solved the problem I was having, and I was glad to know that I was not far off...but thanks!!

[@FortKnoxCo]

That’s awesome to hear! Glad I could help! If you haven’t already please consider subscribing to my channel. I’ll be making lots of videos similar to this and more. 🤙🏼

[@houaseun5944]

Good vid 👍 thank you

[@TheJ2effect]

Great vid, what did you do with the 3 ground wires?

[@FortKnoxCo]

Thank you. The ground wires just get twisted together.

[@TheJ2effect]

@@FortKnoxCo you dont have to hook one to the green screw?

[@FortKnoxCo]

Well yeah. All three come together, and at least one goes to the ground screw on the outlet. I usually cut two shorter, twist them along the one longer one. Then hook that one to the ground screw.

[@TheJ2effect]

@@FortKnoxCo very helpful thank you

[@FortKnoxCo]

No problem 🤙🏼 Anytime

[@hugomorales7095]

Just one question, on the top outlet only one outlet was operational correct , or both ?

[@FortKnoxCo]

Both are active unless you break or separate the metal connector along the side. Almost all outlets have a connection between the top and bottom plug and you have the option to separate and wire two circuits if you want.

[@justmeandme1529]

So why use new wire ? If you explained I missed it

[@FortKnoxCo]

I explained it in a recent comment. But no worries. The new wires are needed because you are adding length basically. Splicing from the old to a new location. You won’t be able to pull the original wire because it’s cut to length and to fit where it’s currently at in the wall. There isn’t much slack in the wall and you won’t be able to pull it. It’s also usually secured to the stud on the inside of the wall just outside the box. So that also holds the wire from being pulled out.

[@TheFitnessJourney]

How do we get to the other side of a stud?

[@FortKnoxCo]

I’ll be making a video showing how to jump studs and move laterally on a wall. But I’m text, you will be having to cut small areas of drywall and drill some holes through the studs to pass the wire through. There’s several ways to do this to limit how much drywall work will be needed.

[@TheFitnessJourney]

@@FortKnoxCo I have to cross 2 studs and go up about 12 inches. I’m hoping a flexibit can get the job done without extra holes.

[@willywonka2164]

Why remove the old box? Why not leave it and fish wires up out of the existing box?

[@FortKnoxCo]

You could do that too. But you might need more working room or if the fishing through is t successful then the next step to get better access to the wall would be removing the original box then replacing with and “old work” box. There’s several ways to accomplish this

[@willywonka2164]

@@FortKnoxCo i commented before I realized you had insulation to deal with. Fishing along the stud into an open drywall cut is definitely easier with installation involved. Gonna give it a go without replacing lower box.

[@FortKnoxCo]

@@willywonka2164 it’s all good. Yeah with insulation it can be a bit harder. But either way could work. I’m sure you’ll get it done. Catching the tape at the top hole that’s larger is usually not too hard.

[@cden19]

Super helpful video. I have the same project to do tonight! Thank you.

[@FortKnoxCo]

Awesome! Glad I could be of help!! Please like the video , it really helps me out and subscribe if you ever need more diy stuff. I’m always uploading project videos I’m doing around the house.

[@ricksiddiqui8354]

Light socket????

[@yaya-pg8ro]

I did it easier without even removing the old box, in the back poke the hole on the side that has no wire feed, I use a metal wire feed and i fed it up towards the new outlet. Saves time on cutting out the old one. reconnected the wires and tested the polarity after the second outlet was done.

[@FortKnoxCo]

I used to do something similar like that but found that I was messing with working in a confined space longer and fiddling with the wires more and it took longer than just zipping out the old box, installing a retro box and having all the space to do it. Either way, we get the job done 🤙🏼🤙🏼

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[@toolsoverjewels]

This might be a stupid question 🤦🏽‍♀️….but why keep the old wiring if you used new wiring ?

[@FortKnoxCo]

Are you asking about the original wiring in the original outlet box ? Everything in this is being used still, we are just branching off/adding to the circuit. Not eliminating anything. So the old wires are still being used. But we are branching off a new set for a new outlet. You can’t really eliminate any wires in the original box otherwise you’d have plugs in other locations that would stop working. I hope that makes some sense

[@toolsoverjewels]

@@FortKnoxCo ohhh ok, that makes sense. thank you!!

[@gregmatthews3980]

Thanks for the video. Can anyone spec that wire for me so I know what to order?

[@FortKnoxCo]

Are you talking about the 12/2 Romex wire ? I just put an Amazon link to it in the video description for you. Sorry I thought I had a link to the wire in there

[@chillyE30]

What about not outlet at the bottom just moving it up behind a tv ??

[@FortKnoxCo]

You can to the exact same thing, but instead of wiring back in the original outlet in the bottom, you just connect the corresponding wires and put a blank plate over to cover. You will be basically just extending the wires to run up the wall to the new one. Splicing them.

[@theredrover3217]

Thank you for acknowledging what a PITA it can be to get the cables and box out with out 'too' much drywall damage. Now if I can manage to get the same 6 cables threaded back IN the box. Sheathed romex was a challenge (extended to new box) I'll not forget anytime soon. The current project was a box from hell removal situation - taking a break now. Gathering strength to wrestle the medusa of cable fed back into the new and improved (a 3 gang 😜) box. More room for all those wires but still akin to herding cats getting them all in there, 😉 at the same time and each with a bit of sheath. 😏

[@FortKnoxCo]

Sounds like you got it done! Good work !

[@atifchoudhury5078]

nice tutorial. I found this to be very helpful!

[@FortKnoxCo]

Thank you. I appreciate it!!

[@trevorminer99]

Good job but code don't allow 2 wires under a screw on a receptacle. Its not safe. When you can no longer daisy chain ur suppose to pigtail.

[@FortKnoxCo]

Yeah I’ve done it both ways. Usually I pigtail stuff but for some reason when I was filming this I doubled up on the screws. LoL. Doing a project and filming at the same time is a whole different thing and throws me off sometimes.

[@trevorminer99]

@@FortKnoxCo I don't know the whole ins and outs id just rather see u safe. Im currently trying to get into an apprenticeship so I've been studying and just watch videos to figure out the best method cuz there is a lot i still don't know.

[@mercenary1485]

Is it safe just to connect the wires like that and get a new outlet on the same wire? i worded that terribly lol

[@FortKnoxCo]

@@mercenary1485 if your asking if you can just leave the current plug there and branch another set of wires up to a new outlet, then yes.

[@ramonl6047]

My problem is I need to relocate an outlet up higher but offset a couple of feet not just straight up.

[@FortKnoxCo]

Not a problem. You would either jump the power over at the box your starting with and drill through the stud just large enough to get the wire through. Then feed it over. Of cut a hole at the top, feed wire up. Then use that hole to drill sideways and feed wire to next hole or area you want. Requires a couple more drywall patches. But that’s how power is added after construction. Not too hard.

[@tennis19899]

Thanks man! Very thorough and helped me allllloooooot! Much appreciated.

[@FortKnoxCo]

Awesome!! I’m happy I could be of help!!

[@808Skeptic]

Did you "Double Up" the black wires like you did the white ones?

[@FortKnoxCo]

If you're referring to when your daisy chaining them together, then Yes. You would continue the black along with the black from the light and the black to go along to the next light fixture. so alone the way there is 3 black tied together, the one coming in/one from the light/one going on to the next light.

[@bobraibert3005]

Great video, thanks for confirming how easy this is!

[@FortKnoxCo]

Your welcome!! Glad you enjoyed it!

[@ahmedelbially1266]

Thank you, best presentation ever 👍

[@FortKnoxCo]

I really appreciate that

[@ChrisRash]

What if, in addition to moving up, you also had to move it sideways across a stud?

[@FortKnoxCo]

That is 100% doable and there’s several ways to accomplish this. BUT it usually requires some drywall work. One method is a “pumpkin cut” into the drywall. You create an opening right next to the stud or wood you want to cross through, drill a hole and feed the wire through. Then patch the drywall. There’s several methods and tricks to create less drywall damage in this process. I’d search drywall pumpkin cut here on KZbin and you will find some good information. I was going to do a full video on solving these types of problems but just haven’t as of yet.

[@ChrisRash]

@@FortKnoxCo Thanks!

[@FortKnoxCo]

If you haven’t already please consider subscribing to my channel. I’ll be making all kinds of helpful videos and uploading several times a month.

[@mu529]

Thanks for this excellent video.

[@FortKnoxCo]

Thank you I appreciate it!

[@BotoRash]

Great video. Subbed!

[@FortKnoxCo]

Thank you!! I really appreciate it!

[@weber1705]

What gage was the wiring you used

[@FortKnoxCo]

In the walls for outlets you commonly use 12/2 or 12/3. Yellow cased wire. 12 being the gauge and the 2 or 3 stating how many wires inside not including the ground

[@TheFixerofAllThings]

How did you get so lucky twice that there were no fire blocks in the walls?

[@FortKnoxCo]

I know right!? I woulda sworn that a fire block would be in the wall. I think maybe they have them at 8’? Or just on the exterior walls? Not sure.

[@davidleonard5712]

thanks well explained with good camera views....

[@FortKnoxCo]

Thank you so much !! I’m happy to help!! Please consider subscribing if you haven’t already. 🤙🏼🤙🏼

[@Rath-Angkor-Thom]

You’re a good teacher. Thank you.

[@FortKnoxCo]

Thank you 🙏🏼 I really appreciate that.

[@abrahamvaro5482]

Very nice video !!!

[@FortKnoxCo]

Thank you! I’m putting out a new one showing another way to add an outlet without removing the original box too. Should be posted in the next week

[@timbo86051]

Not too shabby. Definitely would've pig tailed. And some glass Rods would have helped.😁

[@FortKnoxCo]

Thank you. Yeah I went back and pig tailed the wires. I have another video coming out showing another method I used and I show how to pig tail the wires.

[@timbo86051]

@@FortKnoxCo i’ve been doing it for 28 years and I have so many tricks up my sleeve, I am the master of no drywall damage.

[@FortKnoxCo]

@@timbo86051 that’s the key, do drywall work or as minimal as possible.

[@Thomasz126]

Awesome stuff!!! Thank You

[@FortKnoxCo]

🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼I appreciate it

[@FortKnoxCo]

🤙🏼🤙🏼🤙🏼I appreciate it

[@dmarsh5019]

Nice video, well done.

[@FortKnoxCo]

Thank you!!

[@IAMTONE1011]

Great video !!

[@FortKnoxCo]

Thank you. I appreciate that

[@warhammer48]

This was a great video I learned a lot

[@FortKnoxCo]

Thank you!!

[@andrewthompson377]

Hopefully after the very well training video was made. You hid that cord behind the wall. Thank you for the video.

[@FortKnoxCo]

Are you referring to the cord of the Arlo camera? I mounted the wall perch next to the new outlet up high and had to wrap the cord around the post of the perch to take up that slack. Lol. No cords hanging anywhere.

[@hejduke9060]

Well done, well made. Straight-up useful content throughout. Thank you, Brian!

[@FortKnoxCo]

Thank you!! I really appreciate that!!

[@victornunez9204]

Thank you for sharing your video and time. Good video very informative 👍🏽

[@FortKnoxCo]

Thank you! I really appreciate it!

[@jeremydingman2467]

I'm confused... You added more wires? I thought you just fished the existing wires up the wall?

[@FortKnoxCo]

I branched up a new set to a new outlet. So in a sense I sort of T’d off/up from one outlet. Adding one more outlets the whole circuit, not just moving an existing one.

[@williamschlatmann8703]

And sometimes them old wires are also nailed to the 2x4 so it's hard to pull threw

[@emelectric3448]

Well explained and good work from you, 👏🏻👏🏻

[@FortKnoxCo]

Thank you so much. I really appreciate it!

[@kkmingming]

SAVED MY DAYs.

[@FortKnoxCo]

That’s great to hear!!

[@ciaartin2221]

Thanks so much. Great tutorial!

[@FortKnoxCo]

Awesome to hear!! I appreciate it!!

[@mrt9781]

Outstanding explanation 👍🏽. Thank you

[@FortKnoxCo]

Thank you!!

[@vmark911]

Yeah I’m doing everything you have done here clear and to the point!

[@FortKnoxCo]

That’s awesome. Usually it’s a pretty straightforward process. Main thing is turning the power off. Everything after that is pretty easy.

[@simonblunden2151]

Excellent. Exactly what I was looking for!

[@FortKnoxCo]

That’s awesome!! So glad I could be of help! If you haven’t already Please consider subscribing to my channel. I’ll be making lots of videos about all kinds of DIY projects and fixes around the house.

[@steelcrusher]

Awesome thanks!! 👍

[@FortKnoxCo]

Your welcome!!

[@iballDownSouth]

Nice Vid bro 👌🏾 thanx

[@FortKnoxCo]

No problem. Thanks for checking it out.